The Toast - Putting The Celebraciòn Back in Viernes: Friday, April 25th, 2025
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Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday.
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Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday. Congratulations. Yes.
Si se puede.
Viernes, baby.
Viernes, baby.
Happy Viernes.
Feliz Viernes.
You know what's so funny is obviously we took Spanish
growing up like in school,
and one of the first things you learn
are the days of the week.
And so many of the days of the week like slap,
Domingo, like don't come looking for me on Domingo.
Like I'm-
Martes is so Tuesday.
It's so Tuesday.
Friday being Viernes, I wanna say doesn't work for me.
Like it's not the vibe.
Viernes. Lunas say doesn't work for me. Like it's not the vibe. Viernes.
Lunes is so Monday.
Oh, Lunes.
Like moon day.
Salado, like,
sabado I'm partying it up at the club.
Like sabado, domingo.
Miércoles, hump day.
Jueves, Thursday.
The only one I feel like really doesn't match the vibes
of the week is Viernes.
It doesn't feel celebratory enough.
Well, maybe we could put the celebracion back in Viernes,
the way-
That's beautiful, Jackie.
That the linguistics intended.
I don't know, I just don't like,
I don't think it's a good word.
I think we need to change it.
Early title idea,
putting the celebracion back in the air.
1000% Jackie and I actually had a long
and hard discussion yesterday about title.
Did you have a long and hard discussion
about titles every day?
We do, but like when you look at the other podcasts
in the charts, like, and anytime we've had a meeting
with like Spotify or YouTube,
they're always like, listen, your titles.
We love the creativity, but you guys need to be
a little bit more strategic, like SEO wise,
like putting in the topics,
being like Real Housewives, comma, Scandival.
Like, like, like-
Can you Scandival?
That is like an outlier that will never,
the type of SEO that will never happen again.
Yeah, it was like Real Housewives, Blake Lively, and-
Right, and Justin Baldoni.
And like, sorry, no,
it's gonna be Mr. and Mr. Maldonado from here on out.
Like, so we know we're like hindering our own growth because we refuse to get in line. and Justin Baldoni and like, sorry, no, it's gonna be Mr. and Mr. Maldonado from here on out.
So we know we're like hindering our own growth
because we refuse to get in line.
In our defense, when there is a day where there is news
that we know people are tuning in for,
Taylor on the field, when we know that like,
that's what everyone's list like wants to hear.
We always include it in the title.
Yesterday, we went through all the stories.
There was nothing that was gonna make someone tune in
who wasn't already tuning in.
So like, let's be ourselves.
And put the celebration back in Viernes.
What was our title yesterday?
What was our title yesterday?
I know we had a hard time.
Oh, Wood V. Solomon.
Oh, that was good.
But like not everybody watches Summer House,
so we are elev editing some people,
but maybe some people who watch Summer House,
who don't listen to the toast, saw that and clicked on it.
Probably not, but you know.
It's kind of hard.
Basically what we're trying to emulate to our listeners
is like, we make it look easy, right?
We look fabulous, glamorous.
Like you see lifestyles of the rich and the famous.
You don't know how hard this job is.
And there are a lot of shows like ours
that like do the title with the subjects in the title
and they do a good job,
but it's just like, for some reason we can't do that.
Like their titles would not work for us.
But also like, where else are you gonna find a show
where the title is Mr. and Mr. Maldonado?
Like it's kind of what sets us apart.
I'm sorry.
And they bring me so much joy.
So like, what about us and our serotonin levels
and we need those to be able to do this show.
If we just become cogs.
Do the executives at YouTube care about that?
If we just become cogs, like John Stamos opens up.
I actually, oh wait, I was just on the good guys podcast.
I found out the craziest thing about John Stamos.
I heard something about John Stamos also recently.
I feel like maybe it was the same thing.
Okay, tell me.
You know, the way that like John Mayer has become
like a modern member of Grateful Dead, right?
Like people who have passed, that's what John Stamos is.
He's the drummer for the Beach Boys
and has been for like 30 years.
Oh, that's not what I, that's news to me.
And they were like, you don't know that?
I was like, no, I never heard that before.
But like when they go on tour, it's John Stamos.
When John Stamos was on Full House,
he was the Beach Boys drummer.
That's so interesting.
Good for John Stamos.
I know, but sound off in the comments.
Maybe John Stamos is opening up.
Ben and Josh were like, you don't know that?
I'm like, no.
And they were trying to make me feel bad.
Sound off on the comments.
Did you know that?
No, and that's not sounding like the John Samos fun fact
that I learned, but I can't remember what it was.
But it wasn't anything like groundbreaking.
Maybe something like he lives in Australia,
something like that.
Like he's Australian.
So you were like hanging out
with somebody extremely boring.
I don't even know where I heard it.
It was probably in the comments.
So that's really nice of you to say.
Oh, speaking of the comments,
okay, George Clooney's stance,
rise up, he dyed his hair for a role.
Okay, it's still ugly.
Like can we do anything?
Like I saw that comment on so many irrelevant posts.
Yeah, no, people really wanted me to know.
And let me tell you, I know,
and I had a feeling when I was saying it,
and I'm like, it's probably,
because I know he's in this big Broadway show.
Like it's called like,
it's called like a hard night, good morning like, because I know he's in this big Broadway show. It's called like, it's called like Hard Night Good Morning or something.
I don't give a rip.
And I was like, it's probably four,
but I wanted to drive the point home.
Like, I don't care.
You're still ugly with your hair.
Like I stand by everything that I said,
except yes, correction.
He didn't change it like just to look young.
He changed it for a role.
Okay, like put on a wig.
No, and like maybe that role should have gone
to a younger man with brown hair.
Yeah, like if you have to dye the gray out of your hair,
maybe the roll's not for you.
It's too old for you, bro.
They would never give it to a woman who had like gray hair
and the woman needed brown hair.
They'd give it to a brown haired younger woman.
Brown haired girl.
Oh my God.
I'm so happy it's the weekend.
I also, um,
just like really looking forward to not getting out of bed.
It's getting harder to get out of bed and it's getting like,
thank you so much for not even like acknowledging my outfit.
Like I'll acknowledge it. The kind of sort of elephant in the room,
the Lynette Scavo coated, um, outfit.
I saw it on your Instagram before I saw you on my screen.
So I had time to process it. Like sometimes I'm seeing you for the first time.
And yeah, I could, I just knew, cause also you've told me to stop talking about your looks. Like sometimes I'm seeing you for the first time. And you knew better than to bring it up. And yeah, I just knew,
cause also you've told me to stop talking about your looks.
Yes, I did.
Sometimes I'm seeing you for the first time
when I open up my laptop and I'm like,
Claudia, where'd you get those pants?
Right now it's too hot to care about anything
other than my own comfort.
Where did you get those pants?
I like them. I like them.
I wanna tell you, I have them in two,
I have the exact same pair. One that's like a sort of Capri and one that goes down to the ankle. I'm sure. I want to tell you, I have them in two, I have the exact same pair.
One that's like a sort of Capri
and one that goes down to the ankle.
I'm sure you saw me wearing the ankle ones a few days ago.
They're the best pants I own.
They're maternity pants?
Everything maternity that I've gotten from Amazon
is the best thing that I own.
Like, the cheaper the better.
Nevermind, I'm not gonna say what I'm just gonna say.
What's it?
I'm just gonna dunk on you. But like, you don't.
Like remember when you said
like you weren't buying maternity clothes?
Yeah, and I don't consider buying
from Amazon maternity clothes.
Like that's the point.
I'm trying to make these pants for like $11.
Okay.
But like, no, I'm not gonna do like a fancy maternity line.
Like, unless I have some sort of a gala,
which nobody's invited me to.
There aren't even that many fancy maternity lines,
but there are like. I thought you were gonna. There aren't even that many fancy maternity lines, but there are like-
I thought you were gonna say
there aren't even that many galas.
No, there aren't that many invitations.
Yeah, no, Amazon I consider safe.
Like I'm really not about spending money
on this particular era of my life.
No, but you have to be clothed.
Like you have to walk out of a box with pants.
But I have to be clothed, correct.
And therefore enters the chat, Amazon.
I'm three seconds away from wondering
if I'm sending from Teaboo.
You should look at ASOS Maternity, same price point, okay?
Okay, okay, okay.
But I'm gonna, I'm not gonna tell you what to do anymore.
You're just gonna step, you're gonna lay down the bomb
and step away.
In the same way you can't learn the lesson
of fucking listening to me, I can't learn.
Oh my God.
Remember the other day I was trying to get you
to do something, what was it?
It was listen to a song.
And you were so scared.
I wasn't scared, like at all, I listened to it. And you were so scared. I wasn't scared like at all.
I listened to it.
And as you literally told me, we were on FaceTime.
I listened to it.
I did a Spotify share play.
I listened.
I actually didn't like vibe with the song immediately.
And to my own fucking horn bitch,
you also told me like a couple of FaceTimes ago
when I opened myself up and told you my secret truth
about Sam Hunt, you were like also listen to this one.
I literally listened to it, added it to my light songs,
and I was listening to it yesterday on the way to my face.
You're like, I do listen to you, bitch.
Sorry, the song you suggested wasn't good.
No, you're so resistant.
By the way, the song you listened to-
No, I'm not!
Both times I listened to you.
The song is objectively an amazing song.
It's called- It wasn't.
Count My Blessings by Seth Schluter.
I don't know who that is.
Counting My Blessings.
It's just like a beautiful song
about like counting my blessings.
I didn't think that it was so beautiful.
I like, and that's, and I think that I'm entitled
to feel that way because not one week prior,
I actually liked a song that you recommended, Sam Heim.
Okay, no, no, that's fine.
But anyways, just what I was gonna say,
like, just like you don't take heed and just like,
trust me and like, just listen to me
when I say things the first time.
But see, I don't think that's necessarily the truth anymore.
I feel like I've been so like.
Pad.
So what?
Pad.
I'm wearing one today right now in this moment.
After months, I've been telling you to wear one
since like month three.
Jackie, I didn't need a pad until I needed it.
And then I took your advice.
Like. Okay.
Well anyways, my lesson is like,
maybe I should just stop trying.
Oh my God, victim, okay.
Just like stop trying to voice things on you.
Sure, sure.
Yeah, that's the lesson.
That's the lesson.
That you come to it in your own time, in your own way.
Sure, sure, okay.
You wanna be a martyr?
Go for it.
No, I'm not being a martyr.
I'm saying I'm the foister
and maybe I shan't be the foister.
Oh my God, you're being such a victim right now. Like, I'm the foister. maybe I shan't be the foister. Oh my God, you're being such a victim right now.
Like I'm the foister.
I'm painting myself as the villain
who wants to be the foister.
No, you're not painting yourself as the villain.
You're kind of being like Jesse Solomon right now.
You're Jesse Solomon with your song.
You're Jesse Solomon, you are.
The thing is half the time I love him more than I ever.
You're like fine, I'll just be a robot.
Like that's literally Jesse Solomon. Half the time. I love him more than I've ever loved anyone on
reality TV so when you say that to me I'm gonna think about that half of him
and I'm gonna take it okay that's actually a an amazing exercise in
perspective like I actually love that half full that's actually really
inspiring yeah that's beautiful, Jackie.
We have a fabulous episode for you guys today. It's Friday, which means we're of course
wrapping up the week with Queenie and Weenie,
which is one of my favorite things, ways to wrap.
And I'm actually excited to share mine.
I don't think you guys are expecting.
Interesting.
When it comes to Queenie and Weenie,
expect the unexpected.
I don't know, when it comes to Queenie and Weenie,
expect us to like, re-ay everything we said all week.
Yeah, but it's actually, isn't it interesting
like what sits with you all week?
Well, actually my, I'm glad we're doing Queenie
and Weenie this week because mine is about a topic
that we have not discussed that is not like story worthy,
but it's Queenie worthy.
So stay tuned for that new discussion coming soon.
I love like doing the big teasers for Queenie and Weenie
at the beginning of the show on Friday.
How would you describe your Queenie and Weenie,
the Elk of like in terms of discussion?
It's like a deep cut from this week.
A deep cut from this week.
Very good, very good.
Like I'm gonna say it and you're gonna be like, what?
You're gonna have to hear it a couple of times
before you get the joke, you know?
Very good, very good.
So I don't have any qualms about doing the damn thing
unless there's anything else you wanted to chat about.
No, I'm making a beef stew today,
so that's like my big news of the day.
I found these beautiful beef chunks at the supermarket.
It's so hot, how can you make a beef stew?
I know, it's not like what I was thinking of making,
but I saw these beautiful beef chunks.
They were labeled.
And they were of course kosher at the supermarket.
They never have had these chunks before.
And it said beef cubed for stew.
And so I thought, well,
the universe is telling me to make a beef stew.
Ben had a similar experience.
He saw like a short rib at the kosher grocer.
He just couldn't say no to.
So like I got home last night, I was sweating.
I was like, I walked home from my facial
and I was like, seriously, I got home and I was not okay.
I was so hot.
And he's like huffing and puffing over this big cauldron
of short ribs.
And I was like, yay.
Oh my God.
I didn't want to be weird.
He started it so early in the morning
and he was like so excited.
He's like, I tried it.
You're gonna fucking love it.
Like, and he was so excited.
You guys, I was sweating while I was eating it.
Like it's too hot for a short rib. you're gonna fucking love it. And he was so excited. You guys, I was sweating while I was eating it.
It's too hot for a short rib.
So what did he make?
How did he cook them?
Was it like?
It was in the Dutch oven, slow cooked all day.
It looked like brisket.
It was falling off the bone.
It was fucking delicious.
Yum.
I made short ribs once
and it's just a fatty cut of meat.
I didn't know that.
Yes, yes, it was quite fatty.
I think Ben made a video.
So if you're gonna-
I think it was fatty like 15.
Yeah, I think it was fat like me.
If you are looking for a recipe,
I think Ben has a video coming out soon.
I'm excited to see what you ate.
I love knowing what Codgers ate.
Yeah, Codgers was eating good,
except I'm really taking my cutoff time really seriously.
Like I stopped eating at 6.30.
I mean, I was up at five in the morning
having a bowl of cereal.
Like I was so, I'm so hungry,
but I refuse to eat anything after dinner
because I will wake up choking on my own vomit.
It's so true, you can't.
But I'm so hungry.
So it's like, I'm either waking up choking on my own vomit
or I'm waking up a couple hours later
because I'm so fucking hungry.
Yeah, I think-
Hunger that wakes you up is like another level.
I know, but I think that that's better than like the choking. I think so fucking hungry. Yeah. I think. Hunger that wakes you up is like another level. I know, but I think that that's better
than like the choking personally.
I think it is too.
Personally.
What are you guys having for dinner tonight?
You know what? We were just discussing it.
I saw the scroll on TikTok.
Actually, you know what?
I don't want to say what I was about to say.
I take it back.
It's not titillating or controversial.
I just, I'm going to spare you guys, you know?
Like, cause it's boring?
No, I just don't wanna say it.
Like, I can't explain it.
Can you just tell us why?
Like, why you don't wanna say it?
No, like there's not even a reason.
It's just like, like, I don't wanna say it.
Like, I just don't.
Like, because it's like long winded and boring or?
No, no, no.
It's weird?
I'll tell you about it later.
Okay, do you think I'll understand
why you didn't wanna say it?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's just move on.
Let's move on.
And if I look especially tired,
it's because I was up so late
being such an active participant watching the next game.
I was being such a good wife.
Oh yeah, we were talking about how much TV was on last night. Let me tell you what, I watched none of it because I was up so late being such an active participant watching the Knicks game. Like I was being such a good wife. Oh my God.
Oh yeah, we were talking about how much TV
was on last night.
Let me tell you what I watched.
None of it because I went to sleep at Harry o'clock
last night because he slept in my bed.
The best.
And I got so much sleep, I got like 11 hours of sleep.
If anybody wants to know what happened in game three,
I could tell you.
Who won?
The Knicks won, the Knicks.
TLDR, the Knicks won.
They won in a way game but
they had just lost a home game so it's to one I think another next game is
maybe tomorrow night or something once again Jordan was his boyfriend like
carrying the whole team it's just shocking to say I didn't see her on TV
though last night that was a mess sounds like you have to go to a game no I'm
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I'm literally cracking up that like as sisters
we're insulting one another by calling each other
Jesse Solomon.
Like seriously, we are so funny.
And also like that's not even that mean.
Yeah, we like kind of like him.
I'm having a bubbly today
because they ran out of the cray.
And the last time I had a bubbly,
I had actually one of the worst days of my life.
Just like I wasn't feeling good.
Like everything was going wrong.
And I don't wanna blame the bubbly.
But if I have a bad day today, like we'll say.
Yeah.
Once fool me once, shame on me.
Correct.
Okay. Correct.
Keep us posted.
Will do.
Our first story, speaking of galas,
the Time 100 Gala was yesterday evening.
Another gala I wasn't invited to.
Because you are not on the Time 100 most influential list
because you are actually influential.
Another list I was left off of.
Therefore you couldn't have been on this list.
This event though is always like part delicious
and stuff like always happens.
Obviously when I think of the time 100,
I think of when Taylor wore that purple,
pink and yellow dress.
And I think she performed love story on the piano.
Or when Amy Schumer like laid on the floor
in front of King Kong.
Oh yeah.
I happen to like really, especially the older I get,
I like really have learned to like
think Amy Schumer is the funniest person ever.
That was not her funniest moment, I can't lie.
You know, you win some, you lose some.
You have to take chances.
Right.
A hundred percent of the shots you don't take.
1000%.
Blake Ligley is kind of the headline news of the event
because she attended with Ryan
and she's the talk of the ton.
And they gave a speech.
She gave a speech.
She gave like a little speech from her chair.
It's chair.
It wasn't like a formal,
I thought it was weird when she was like standing
at her table with a microphone.
Yeah, because I heard she gave a speech for,
oh, she gave a speech.
Oh, that's kind of like major.
And then I saw the speech.
And so she was like standing at her table.
Makes me feel like other people like stood at their table
and gave speeches, probably other influential.
Recipients.
But we're only hearing about her.
She was a Titan. She was a Titan.
She's a Titan.
She was in the Titan category.
A Titan of the year.
For her charitable work.
And then she gave a speech, an emotional speech
where she talked about her mother who...
Was in attendance, correct?
Was in attendance.
And she said that her mother was the victim
of the worst crime someone can commit against a woman. She said that she had concealed her undeserved shame
throughout her life.
Blake felt the need to share her mom's story
in order to make an impact,
saying, if we name it, we change it.
Now, the philanthropy she was highlighted for
and the activism she was highlighted for
in the Time article and what put her on the list
was with the NAACP. So she wasn't referencing
that. She was talking about some more activism. Obviously that feels so pertinent to the conversation
everyone was having about it ends with us, which is a film about domestic violence. And she was
accused of, you know, not taking the issue seriously and not talking about it as a major
conversation during the press and just like promoting her haircare line.
So everything she does now,
I have to look at it strategically.
She's prepping herself up.
A microscope, like no one else is at the current moment.
Yes.
Except for Halle Bieber.
Well, she's always under the microscope.
It's not about the moment.
But she's also like prepping for this big trial.
And no matter who the jury,
you're supposed to have like a completely
Unbiased jury but with something so big and so scandalous and so famous like everyone's gonna come in with like a couple of preconceived notions
So you're also playing for the court of public opinion
and so I have to look at it through that lens which I hate because I do believe like what she said was true and
real and honest, but
She's playing a part, right?
So it was Justin Baldoni,
but he's not doing public events at this current moment.
I thought she looked great.
I thought she spoke great.
I'm not some, like I'm not who she's trying to convince,
right?
I'm like praying she's right.
You got a lot riding on this.
I do.
Kind of like all of your...
Don't say credibility.
No, I wasn't gonna say that.
That's literally not what I was gonna say.
But like.
What are you gonna say?
I can't think of the word.
So me.
There is not a word for what I'm thinking of.
I still feel like fairly good
about my take on the whole situation.
Now I know everybody hates mine,
but I have yet to see something
and I am open to changing my mind.
Like I'm not being stubborn just because I like
put my fork in the ground on Blake.
I feel good about my relative neutrality
and having left Camp Blake.
I feel good about where I stand.
And so I also feel like a speech like this
is not really for me because there's nothing
that she could say in the speech
that's going to change how I feel
about whatever happened two years ago.
And I think that-
Well, she did like reference that, the scandal,
very vaguely just being like, you know,
there's so much has happened.
Well, also, we're talking about violence against women
and her mother.
I think it's all sort of tied together,
but for me, it's not tied together.
This speech is a separate thing.
I know maybe she obviously has to be a little more calculated
in everything that she says and does.
So maybe talking about this issue in this way
is favorable to her case in some way, not for me.
No, not for you, but I think for people who,
one of the biggest, what her detractors are saying
about her most frequently is that she did this big press tour
for the film about domestic violence
and never once spoke seriously about domestic violence,
highlighted the issue and just made it all about her
and her outfits and her flowers and her haircare company.
And so for, this feels like a direct response
to that critique of her, which is one of the biggest.
Yes, and as someone in the neutrality camp,
I don't give a rip about that
because that's how the book was marketed.
That's like, that's what the studio had said. The cast was told. Yeah, that's what the book was marketed. That's like, that's what the studio had said.
Yeah, that's what the cast was told.
And I think that it would have been the right strategy
had Justin then not like came out and made it so serious.
And Sombra, we know the movie is about that,
but like, I didn't think that the press were needed.
Like I do not care one iota that she did not mention it
and that she focused on her haircare,
which is apparently like really fabulous.
I just want to say I was getting my haircut with mahogany
and she had a Blake Brown beauty.
And she used some for me.
She said it's really great.
I agree.
I also think people glaze over the fact
that like there is a full memo that we saw
that the studio told the cast not to,
that the tone of the press tour should be positive
and light and fun, female friendship, whatever.
That was like a strategic move.
So Justin then like being so serious about it,
like makes everybody else look so bad.
And as someone who has left Team Blake,
and I think there's so much inconsistency,
like honest, I'm not buying what she's selling.
I would like to ask Justin, like, why did you do that?
When everyone else was given this directive,
why did you then and go and then-
It's like a hero complex, right?
It's like such an easy way to make yourself,
like to endear yourself.
Right, of course, he wouldn't admit that,
but like, I would like to know what he would say to that.
Like, what, because you couldn't not be serious about it.
That's your studio, your Wayfair Productions.
Right.
You guys sent out that memo,
so why would you go and make everyone else look stupid?
Right.
And I think as a viewer slash somebody who read the book
without having any idea what it was about,
I actually think it was a better, more enjoyable,
enjoyable, am I thinking, stroke,
enjoyable experience going into it sort of blind, right?
Like you don't know that the book is about to take this turn.
And so you kind of put yourself
in the position of the reader, right?
Like it was kind of-
The position of Lily.
The protagonist, yeah.
Sorry, not the reader, thank you.
So I understand why that was what they wanted for the film,
but I don't understand why he then like made it his mission
to do the opposite.
Yeah, agreed.
So it looks like everyone had a fun time at the party.
It always looks like a nice gala.
Like they spend good money on it.
Good people show up.
Well, the people who they think are the most influential.
So they kind of get to curate the list.
You know, so if I worked at time,
I would just make it all the people I wanna meet.
Because no matter how famous you are,
if you're on that list, you do go to the gala.
Like Taylor Swift went, so I would make the list all the people I want to meet because no matter how famous you are, if you're on that list, like you do go to the gala, like Taylor Swift went.
So I would make the list all the swirlies that I want to meet.
And just know like Taylor Swift is not influential.
Cause she was not on the list.
Cause she's not on the list.
She wasn't influential at all this year.
Which I didn't realize that.
Yeah.
Are you ready for our next story?
A little update with Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley.
Really?
Yeah, we're getting some backstory on how they got together.
Billy Ray Cyrus received a warm message
from Elizabeth Hurley when he was down in the dumps
from his divorce with his ex-wife, Fire Rose.
Oh, she slid into the GMs?
She texted him.
How does she have his number?
They worked on a movie together in 2022
called Christmas in Paradise.
They only did a few scenes together, he said.
But the couple of times we were in the same scene, there was chemistry there.
We just laughed.
And it was at a time when I wasn't laughing a lot.
So then him and and fire rose are divorcing and she where did he share this?
He told Apple Music
Country's The Tie Bentley Show.
God, OK, so the it's like a radio show.
A radio show.
And maybe if Spotify was down
and I was listening to country radio on Apple this morning,
I would have heard it.
You would have heard it.
So the Texas from the mysterious sender,
he didn't have her phone number.
It said, hey, it looks like life might be a little tough
and just wanted you to know I'm in your corner.
You've got a friend in your corner.
So he didn't have her number.
So he responded, who is this?
That's such a brutal response
to like such a heartfelt message.
When she revealed her identity,
he said he thought of all the people to reach out to me
in that second that maybe I needed most
this friend who made me laugh.
So they said they had lost touch for two years,
which is when he was married to Fire Rose after the movie
and then reconnected when she sent this text message.
Like I want to get on board and think that this is cute.
Cause if it was anybody else, like I would,
but I just know that like-
But I saw what I saw.
Right. I know there's like something so smelly going on here,
like physically smelly.
I can't ship, like I'm kind of at this standstill.
Like in another lifetime, I would be obsessed with these two.
That devil slink skank Molly.
Like I'm sorry, I can't get on board.
This is the poster for the movie
they did Christmas in Paradise.
Oh, what was it called?
Christmas in Paradise, starring Elizabeth Hurley,
Billy Ray Cyrus and Kelsey Grammer.
I absolutely have to watch this movie.
Kelsey Grammer?
Yeah, it's kind of star studded.
And it's so crazy that of the two leading men.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, like Elizabeth Hurley is clearly like stuck
between Kelsey and Billy.
Torn between the two.
Oh my, what is this film?
Maybe we could see him the way she did on set
and maybe he was like presenting himself well at the time.
Kelsey Grammer does so many things that are incongruous
with like who he is, which is Frasier, right?
Like he's like a Jerry Seinfeld.
You don't see Jerry Seinfeld out here doing
like Hallmark movies with Billy Ray Cyrus.
He like forgets how famous he is.
Sometimes, I mean, even being on the Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills, like that was really crazy.
Even though he was on there very strategically.
He was on there to divorce his wife.
To get dumped his wife.
Yeah, like in her big red dress at the Tony's.
But I find that so many of his current bookings
don't align with that of Frazier.
I feel like he lives a very expensive life.
He needs the money.
It's giving broke.
Yeah.
And.
I mean, he did have to give Camille Grammer $30 million,
half of his Frazier money. I know, but it's like, Jenniferille Grammer $30 million, like half of his Frasier
money. I know, but it's like Jennifer Tillis has been gave her 10% of the Simpsons and everyone
like lived happily ever after. Except that he died. So, but like until he died, like
he didn't die because she got to like, that's just a separate thing. Although the Simpsons
I do feel is in an entirely different league than Frasier. Okay. But like Frasier is in
the same league as Friends
and they are all sitting pretty for the rest of their lives.
Yes, although Friends I think has entered
the 21st century quite well,
like new people are always watching it.
I've never even seen Frasier.
I don't think like Gen Z binges Frasier.
And that's what's wrong with Gen Z.
It's like a show that a certain generation loved,
but it's not timeless.
Yeah, anyways, it's surprising that Elizabeth Hurley
gravitated towards Billy Ray on set and not Kelsey.
She's outweighing in the wings for Kelsey.
Listen, you can't put Elizabeth Hurley in a box.
I have to watch this movie.
If I see it on any streamer, when I'm casually looking,
I will watch it.
You will watch it.
I will not seek it out,, I think that's the only way
this relationship will make sense to me.
But it also makes me feel like they were dating
when he performed at the inauguration.
Maybe she did that, like because she's British,
like maybe she did it on purpose and like got him all tipsy.
Revenge for 1776.
Yeah, like this one's for King George.
I'm just looking up where you can stream
Christmas Empowered, oh, it's for King George. I'm just looking up where you can stream Christmas in Paradise.
Oh, it's on Amazon Prime.
Okay.
Oh, and I believe the Roku channel.
I will.
It feels like it would be like a Roku original.
I can't find my pen.
It needs to go on my content plate.
Jackie, if it's what's meant for you, we'll find you.
My pen.
No, the movie.
I can never find my pen.
That's kind of the problem with you going analog.
Correct. Yeah. You know what? I think I have to write it on my phone.
Just because it's too important.
Unfortunately. Everyone wants a necklace like mine.
So that's how they got together. Stay tuned for how they're doing.
I'm still in genuine shock about this.
Me too.
And that's latest.
I'd love to hear from Kelsey Grammer.
Yes.
Did he sense this onset?
The chemistry.
Next story, love seems to be dead.
Sophie Turner is sparking breakup rumors.
I know.
With her aristocrat boyfriend,
Peregrine, Pellegrino Piercing. Peregrine.
After nearly two years of dating,
she has unfollowed him on Instagram.
She also shared a cryptic post on stories
that simply read,
Tutu Pasa, which translates as everything passes.
Now,
while I am devastated,
I do feel okay,
because I really thought,
and I can't believe it's been two years,
I thought this was like a rebound type of thing.
Like I didn't think of it so seriously,
but you know what, she got a nice relationship right after
what seemed to be like a tumultuous divorce.
So I feel like some relationships just like
are meant to last a season and they heal you
and they take you from one place to another.
And that's what Pellegrino was.
Yeah, yeah.
I guess that makes sense.
I think they had a lot of fun together.
I loved that like life for her, you know,
the aristocratic life.
I hope she met some other eligibles while in that circle
and now has found her next boyfriend.
But I just don't think like, as she thinks about
how she wants like live out her days,
I don't think being Mrs. Pellegrino like hold up
on the English countryside, like hosting dinner parties is what she wants to live out her days, I don't think being Mrs. Pellegrino, hold up on the English countryside,
hosting dinner parties is what she wants to be doing.
It was a relationship that had an expiration date.
Yeah, because eventually he'll have to settle down
and get boring and attend to his family's estate.
And she doesn't wanna be around for that.
I mean, they're just like money pits, right?
And then you're hosting weddings. And like a house frown. Yeah, right? And then like what you're hosting weddings, like.
And like a house frow, like.
Yeah, no, and like then you're giving tourists.
No, no, no.
We have to go.
Do you feel like she's definitely stepped back?
She stepped back a little bit,
like from being a working actress,
but I think she'll come back.
Joan, she's still on adver, then that's a show.
And she's Joan, not Rivers.
In the UK. Yeah. not Rivers, common misconception,
just want to say.
Yeah, so maybe like he inherited his family's estate
and she was like, hell no, the roof is leaking, I'm out.
I do think while you're adding things to your digital list,
I would add her to our list of eligibility.
She's 100% already there.
You think, Sophie Turner?
But she's been in a relationship for two years.
But we do love to have people who are literally
in relationships on our list of eligible butt traps.
Unless you get married, you don't come off the list.
That's the rule.
And she is.
I feel like she's not.
I genuinely hate this list so much.
I know.
And I'm starting a new one.
Okay, I wanna wipe this slate clean.
No.
Tabula.
Jackie, I'm putting my foot down.
Claudia, it's the worst list. Tabula. Jackie, I'm putting my foot down, you can't.
It's the worst list.
It's the most basic, stupid list.
Oh my God, now you're speaking so ill of our list.
Claudia, I can't.
Fine, fine, fine.
I feel queasy.
Fine, look at me listening to you.
Why thank you, Coders Wojers.
Eligibles 2.0.
Now I'm gonna have to point it out every time.
Sophie Turner.
And we'll just add as they come, that's it.
Add as they come.
Cooms afresh.
Okay, okay.
Are you ready for our fourth story?
Yeah.
It's a little TV news,
because Royal Paine's reboot is in the works,
starring Mark Fuerstein.
And literally this means the world to two people,
Margot O'Shea and Olivia O'Shea.
I actually like the show.
I know, but when I think of it, I don't think of you.
No, I don't think of me either,
but I think like a secret that I harbor
is that I thought it was a really good show
and like you learned a lot about rare medical conditions.
Oh, I meant to tell you, by the way,
everyone remembers when Jackie had her
sir cloche surgery, right?
Like, what was that a year and a half ago?
Two years ago, almost to the day.
There is an episode of Grey's Anatomy,
like you literally had like one of those conditions
because I just weirdly get served clips
of like random TV shows on TikTok. they were talking about a sirclage
on Grey's Anatomy.
Maybe, or it was like Chicago MD.
One of those, like you are literally a how,
what's that show House?
That's you.
That's so funny.
Also I get people message me this a lot
when they're watching the last seasons of Downton Abbey.
Anna, remember?
She had a sirclage. She had a sirclage.
Remember she was like having trouble keeping a pregnancy
and then Mary sent her to her doctor
and it turned out she just needed the sirclage
cause she had cervical incompetence.
And so, which is a really fun fact,
like that the sirclage is in Downton Abbey.
However, it's historically inaccurate
because the sirclage wasn't invented until the fifties
and Downton Abbey takes place in the 20s.
Oh, I feel like Julian Fellows is better than that.
Yeah.
And I told Dr. Fox that he was like, yikes.
When I told him, do you see Downton Abbey?
Anna has the Sir Clash.
He was like, they went and invented it.
It's impossible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry to ruin the fun for everyone.
And so the secret that you harbor
is that you liked Royal Pains.
The secret that I harbor as it pertains to Royal Pains,
it's so funny that we both have deep dark secrets,
is that it's a show my entire family,
my sisters loved, I've never seen one minute of it.
Claudia, you should watch it right now.
I think you would like it.
It's set in the Hamptons.
Yeah, it takes place though at that big house, right?
Where everybody gets buried.
Oh Hicca Castle?
It's the, Oh Hicca Castle,
it's where the blank space music video is.
It's like on Long Island.
It's very famous. Are you sure?
I think so.
I don't feel like that was the vibe.
Really?
Yeah, let me see Royal Paine's house.
Oh Hicca Castle.
Yeah, Shadow Pond.
There's like this mansion in Long Island
for anybody who's not familiar,
it's called Oh Hika Castle.
Now locals know it, it's like a venue that you can rent.
A lot of like swirlies get married there,
but it's also featured in a lot of famous TV shows,
Blank Space Music Video, obviously.
Royal Pains.
Most famously, Blank Space Music Video.
Most famously.
In popular culture.
It was served as partial inspiration for Gatsby's estate
in the Great Gatsby, that feels right.
Oh, but they didn't film it there.
No, but it was like inspiration.
On the mood board.
It is the castle on Long Island, so that makes sense.
I'm just gonna skip to like things that we know.
Yeah, it's just like this random wedding venue
that's oddly relevant in pop culture.
It was used in the music video, Cookie by R. Kelly.
Cool, cool, cool, cool, love that.
It was used in Liam Payne and Rhea Orez
for you music video.
So it's seeped in American history.
Yeah, Real Houses of New York City season 12 reunion.
Really?
The first in-person reunion after the pandemic.
COVID.
Wow, love that.
A music video for a JLo and Maluma song,
Pot-T plus Lonely.
Wow, no I'm telling you guys.
The castle was featured in a Mr. Beast video
in which the Mr. Beast crew was tasked to stay
in a $1 hotel to a million dollar hotel.
Wow.
And-
The more you know.
It stood in for a Hungarian castle
in the second season of Succession.
So we thought we were in Hungary,
turns out we were in Long Island.
Long Island.
And now let me ask you something about Royal Paine's reboot.
What the hell is the show about?
Oh, I'm so glad you asked.
He's a doctor?
He's a doctor.
So he's staying at the, he doesn't live in Ohica Castle.
He's in someone's like guest house.
Someone is like, maybe he's the doctor
to the person who lives in the house,
but the person's like never there.
So he becomes a concierge doctor
for rich people in the Hamptons.
They like call him with their ailments.
And so every episode, it's kind of like house
where someone has like a mysterious thing going on
and he's like the best doctor and he solves it.
But it's always something like gout,
like something random.
Of course, of course.
Undiagnosable except to Dr. Henry Hank Lawson.
That's Mark?
That's Mark.
And then his little brother is also with him in the Hamptons
and the little brother is just like wants to party
and is like so funny.
And he's like wants to get down
and he actually falls in love with like a Hampton swirly
like a socialite, very rich, very works out,
things work out well for him
and she's a main cast member too,
the two of them just like being Hampton swirly's.
I just feel like this is a show
that was like moderately successful.
It was a, it was on USA, right?
It was like a random channel.
Yeah.
And so it was, it And so it was successful for USA
because all they do is play SVU reboots.
Like, so it's such a random show to reboot.
Like it had like a fandom,
but not like a vocal one or a large one.
Like I just, I'm confused.
Well, I'm here for this reboot
because I think it's like an easy show to read.
But you don't have to like, he could still be Dr. Hank.
They could still be out in the Hamptons doing their thing.
We're learning about niche mysterious medical conditions.
That works for me, depending on where I'm at in my life.
Like maybe I'll give it a shot.
But I think you should watch the old one.
I think you would like it.
It's totally neutral.
I want to say while your condition of sir, clodging is definitely like common fodder.
I feel like I'm about to see an episode of like a coxedonia. Do you know what I mean?
Maybe there is one in Royal pains. Like maybe that's how they
In between Royal pains house, grades, anatomy, Chicago MD, like all these medical shows,
there is definitely a coccidinia diagnosis.
And if there's not, I think that's something
that the coccidinia awareness committee-
Free idea.
Should be pitching,
so that there's coccidinia visibility.
100% representation for the community.
Will you try watching Royal Pains or not?
Like the old one.
I'm in a TV show funk.
So this is not me not listening to you.
No, no, I didn't say, by the way, I didn't say do it.
I asked a question.
No, now I'm feeling like so defensive.
I didn't say do it, I asked a question.
I don't know, I don't know.
I'm not really in the mood for like a new show, you know?
Okay.
But just to defend my reputation, sure, I'll watch it.
I'll watch the whole thing by Monday, okay?
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Our fifth and final story is about one of your favorite subjects, two of your favorite subjects.
Myself?
No, shark attacks and influencers. So scientists are blaming influencers for the rise in shark attacks.
A scientist will blame anyone but sharks for shark attacks. Continue. So just when you thought it was safe to go pro back in the water, French scientists have attributed the spike in shark attacks to selfie-taking influencers encouraging tourists to pet the
toothy predators, per a jaws-dropping study in the journal Frontiers in Conservation.
Contrary to sharks portrayal as mindless killing machines in movies, researchers argued that
many of the so-called attacks were defensive responses to being poked and prodded by online clout seekers.
One of the scientists, the lead researcher said, I don't encourage, as many influencers do on
social networks, people to cling to a shark's dorsal fin or stroke it under the pretext of
proving that they are harmless. He was citing the genre of videos in which content creators
film themselves swimming with and even poking the sea beasts. In one popular Instagram clip, a wildlife
photographer is pictured touching the nose of a tiger shark off of Hawaii. The sharks
here feel like family." The crazy shark lady gushed in the caption. It's funny because
these influencers actually have the same goal as the scientists, which is like show that
sharks are harmless.
Proving, right.
And the sharks are saying, no bitch, like stop.
I just feel like it's such an easy blame.
Like we're always blaming influencers for everything.
Even though that example that they just cited
was not an influencer, it was a wildlife photographer.
Two very different things, first of all.
Second of all, while there's no doubt
that there are absolute morons who like go with cameras.
Remember the guy from Siesta Key
who was like dragging that shark off his boat?
Like people are total morons and idiots.
And I think that's probably a cause of some shark attacks.
To paint with such a broad brush,
that's not the only reason sharks attack.
Sharks also attack because they're beasts of the wild.
Why is that so hard for people to say?
I feel like every time there's a major study
or research thing done on shark attacks,
they're like, well, they're only attacking
because like we're calling them shark attacks.
Like maybe, and it's like, no, it's a shark attack.
It's okay.
Like how do you think Bethany Hamilton feels reading this?
Like for real.
I just started Googling her because I was like,
what's her last name?
She was just writing her own goddamn business.
Bethany Moda?
No, Bethany Hamilton.
I feel like most of the shark attacks we hear
are just like people swimming at the beach,
not people trying to take pictures with sharks
or petting them.
And to be clear, when you hear about a shark attack
of somebody who was like trying to take a picture
and pet their fins, like you don't feel bad for them.
No, I've never even heard such a thing.
I've never even.
No, you feel bad for the Bethany Modas of the world.
Of course, people going about their business,
swimming in shallow waters, surfing,
like we all have our districts
in the ocean and they ventured into shallow waters
and they took a bite.
I'm just sick of this.
Like, like this rewriting of facts.
Yeah.
Like imagine going to science school,
becoming a scientist and like,
this is the work you put out.
And this is the big conclusion.
Yeah. Get a job.
Like you're blaming,
I'm just sick of influencers being blamed for everything.
That's like really crazy.
I'm not, I haven't seen enough evidence that how,
what percentage of shark attacks are people trying
to get close to sharks?
And to be clear, when I think of a shark attack,
I do not think of an instance where like somebody's being
an idiot and like provoking a shark and then getting their ass beat.
I think of a more Bethany Hamilton, you know?
Of course.
I don't consider that a shark attack.
I think of that fucking around and finding out.
Yeah, they found that of the 74 bites recorded
during the period of their study,
most of which were from smaller and medium sized sharks,
around 5% were likely to have been the result
of sharks acting in defense.
So 95% of sharks are offensively aggressive.
So what you found out is actually the opposite
of this headline.
Right.
The science community is disgusting for this.
No, I'm not sure that's how it works.
5% is not then-
A lot.
The result.
Right, no, the 95% would be the leading headline here.
I'm just trying to call back everything I've learned
about numbers.
About the scientific theory.
No, these people are disgusting.
I don't know what it is.
It's okay, sharks are dangerous predators.
That's okay to say.
Sharks are dangerous predators.
Stay back, beware,
be scared.
1000% stay alert, don't swim with your period.
It's funny, cause I feel like they're trying to say
the same thing we are, which is like, don't bother sharks.
We weren't, like only 5% of people were, like we're not.
Right, but then like how do we prevent like people
who didn't bother sharks, those shark attacks?
So that's just like an unfortunate risk, right?
A very small risk of going in the ocean.
There's a reason why we're only citing Bethany Hamilton,
right? It's not like a common thing.
No, but I don't know.
I see videos all the time of like sharks spotted
in the Atlantic.
Yeah. I mean, them being spotted like is not a big deal.
It's not where people are swimming.
You can see them like on the beach, from the beach.
Yeah, well it's always like head frontline news
in Long Island over the summer.
Like sometimes Long Island is, the Atlantic is very sharky.
That, yeah, the Atlantic is like wild.
Let's dive into our final segment of the week,
Queenie and Weenie of the week.
Every Friday, Jackie and I like to wrap up the week
in a little bow, give out two awards,
Queenie of the week and Weenie of the week.
It's exactly like it sounds,
who acted like a Queenie this week and who acted the Week and Weenie of the Week. It's exactly like it sounds. Who acted like a Queenie this week
and who acted like a major Weenie this week.
It's a seven day title, it's not that serious.
If you find yourself being Queenie of the Week one week,
don't get too excited,
because you might be Weenie the next.
Let's dive in.
What would you like to start with, Queenie?
We always start with Queenie.
That's like you asking what story is it.
I know, and we always start it with me asking,
and then we always start it with you telling me
that we start with Queenie every week. that we start with Queenie of the Week.
Okay, so my Queenie of the Week is one Lexi Wood.
I thought it was a great week to be Lexi.
I had been championing her on Summer House
and it was nice to see the narrative finally flip
so quickly, I love that.
She's also handled herself with so much elegance.
On the show, she could have been a little nastier
to some of the girls and I think that she doesn't wanna
threaten having beef with them.
So I think she's been very classy.
All that press she's been doing,
I watched her on a podcast.
She's very elegance.
And so she's a mature queen
and I think she's been a great addition
and this week was great for her.
Agreed.
My Queenie of the Week was a matter we hadn't discussed yet
just cause it hasn't come up yet.
But Stacey Schroeder is my Queenie of the Week
because Vanderpump Villa season two premiered,
she's on the show, which we had reported
she was doing Vanderpump Villa.
Like she's back on TV with Lisa Vanderpump.
She's doing all this press, like by Lisa's side
as Lisa's number two.
And like the way this girl was canceled.
Like a phoenix rising from the ashes.
I've never seen someone go from-
Come back.
Come back in a way like this,
like bigger than she was before. When she like, and people get canceled all the time, seen someone go from- Come back. Come back in a way like this,
bigger than she was before.
When she, and people get canceled all the time,
but there are varying degrees,
and she had one of the worst cancellations of all time.
And bit by bit, through her own grit,
no one did anything for her,
no one, through her book, through her podcast,
she is back, she's on GMA.
I tell you, she's gonna be on the cover of Vogue.
This woman is a queenie.
I'm gonna watch her in Vanderpump Villa at some time.
And it just goes to show, it's because people love her.
It's because she's so fantastic.
Even her fans.
You can't keep a good gal down.
Her fans never went away
because she is just that interesting
and that funny and that cool.
And I'm so happy for her
because she's had a lot of success in the'm so happy for her because she had like,
she's had a lot of success in the last few years
with her podcast and her book,
but that was all like things she did for herself by herself.
But to now like be back in the mainstream, back on TV,
back on all the morning shows
and every mainstream bit of press that you could do,
it's a feat.
Agreed, I like that.
Queenie.
My Queenie of the week actually goes to two swirlies.
They go by the names Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert.
Love.
So I guess it's like a posthumous Weenie of the Week
because I don't know if at the time when we reported
on the Hollywood Reporter canceling the Golden Batcher,
I don't think Weenie and Weenie of the Week
was a segment we had created yet. So the fact that they never gotie and Weenie of the Week was a segment we had created yet.
So the fact that they never got to be
Weenie of the Week just seems unfair.
And I'm grateful that this week was a reminder
that we all needed that two women named
Susan O'Malley and Barbara Lippert.
Oh, Suzanne O'Malley and Barbara Lippert
like actually tried to cancel the Golden Bachelor.
Like that's something that really happened.
We cannot forget. And we must kind of commemorate this moment with a Weenie cancel the golden bachelor. Like that's something that really happened. We cannot forget.
And we must kind of commemorate this moment
with a weenie of the week award.
I think that's really beautiful.
My weenie of the week was gonna be
the half of Jesse Solomon.
That is awful.
One half.
I like that.
One half of Jesse Solomon.
Like the right side or the left side?
Like literally.
I would say it's definitely like left brain.
That is the weenie
that is exerting weeding behavior on behalf
of Jesse Solomon considering we didn't see the other half
of like Menchie Jesse Solomon this week, like he had a full
only the left side was taking over was on the episode.
We didn't see the right side.
It's a weenie for me.
I agree. I like that.
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