The Toast - Rage, Sadness and Joy: Tuesday, February 27th, 2024

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

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Good morning, millennials, you guys. I cannot be here right now. This is so toxic. Jackie and I were 45 minutes into this episode when we realized that only one microphone was up. And why was only one microphone on? Oh, because this studio is literally perfect. We have it down to a science to record the toast

but the fucking good guys came in here yesterday and I told Ben he's been in here all week I said because he kept like unplugging my printer unplugging one of the lights and I would go and say when you come in here whatever you do undo it un-fucking-do it so what did he do he didn't undo it he turned off one of the microphones because he was only in here recording by himself and usually we catch it you know i'm shaking shaking with rage shaking with rage seriously if i don't know if you guys are religious but i would pray for ben's offer like yeah he is so done and you know what he wasn't even going to be my weenie of the week this week i was like oh i'm not not going to give it two weeks in a row and you know there is no show Friday so let's just preemptively say weenie of the week Ben's offer I'm so fucking mad

yeah we we need to regroup because we were 40 minutes into the show we were in story number two we're not going to spend this whole time going over the things that we went over we're going to have a fresh show. New conversations. Very exciting. You guys would have liked the old one. I'm not going to lie. You would have loved it. You really would have loved it.

So many great combos were had. We sang a song that was so beautiful. We did. We sang a beautiful song. We put like such a nice like bow on this three week journey we've had. I can't. We had such a funny conversation about Teresa Caputo.

Like, I'm gonna kill someone and that person is my husband, I'm sure. The good guys sabotaged us. Yet again. Yet again. This has been their most destructive move yet. Yeah, and how do we get the good guys back? By delivering the best fucking episode.

By literally being like, no, I'm sorry. I'm really having a hard time. I'm so angry. I know. We have to. I need to let go, but I can't. No, you don't need to let go. Because that would mean moving on.

And this unacceptable behavior, we can't just let go of it. But we have to set it aside. Can we set it aside? Like, no. Ben texted me, I'm so sorry. I'm like, you're not forgiven. There's nothing he could say or do. behavior like we can't just let go of it but we have to set it aside can we set it aside like no ben texted me i'm so sorry i'm like you're not forgiven there's nothing he could say or do no he offered he's like i'm so happy to guest host if you like we don't want your grimy ass you guys go unsubscribe from the good guys let's start out this show how we started the previous one which was on a major high because today is a very exciting day here.

You're a bigger woman than me. Like, I can't move past this. But we have to. The girly collection. Yeah, the girly collection. Ugh. We launched our merch today, the girly collection,

and so exciting. You guys are so excited about it. Claudia and I, it's opposite day because I'm wearing what Turdi wore yesterday, down to the shoes. So we do, we did, yes, we have a lot to be proud of. We had a big merch launch this morning. And actually, we did something that we never do,

which was that some of our items, most of our merch launches are pre-order. That's why you guys are able to place the order that you want for the size that you want with the quantity that you want. And there's no rush. But the hat, the mug, and the t-shirt, which are all new items for us, we did, we placed the order already so it was a certain amount in a certain amount of items and they sold out almost immediately and a lot of people are kind of rioting so what we're doing is we're working on getting the t-shirt up for

pre-sale but the mug that sold out instantly is up for pre-sale you can order it now it will take two weeks to ship so just know you're pre-ordering that mug we're trying to do the same with the t-shirt hopefully by the time this episode comes out we'll have that figured out but so glad you guys are loving the merch the sets are still available for pre-sale so you can get whatever size quantity you want you can you don't have to like rush with that um but it's very exciting the girly collection which we've really been working on since october is finally out and it appears as though everybody's loving it and that's just fabulous news fabulous news and fabulous that we get to finally wear it on the show because

these things have been in our closets looking us in the face every day as we try to get dressed And we can't wear them and it's unfair And now I'm so excited to just be wearing this gorgeous pink set on the show I am wearing the girly sweater right now in a large Because I'm wearing it with leggings So I wanted like more of an oversized look When I wear it with the pants and I want it more tailored I'll wear a medium

What are you wearing? I'm wearing large sweatshirt and pants in the soft pink crew neck set. But the other one that you have is what? A triple XS? Triple XS. Yeah. I feel like you can't say, like, you could say triple XL. I thought you were going to say triple XL.

I would never. But it's funny how you can say like. And I said, it hasn't today been hard enough. It's funny how you can say triple XL. And now we're going to turn on each other. But you can't say triple XS. Like, also, who is a triple XS made for like that can't be real don't body shame no i'm not i'm just saying like how is that possible like i see double xs and i'm like excuse imagine if you said this

about double x triple xl yeah how is that possible that would be the end of the show that would be the end of the show so shop toast merch.com for all your merch tings the girly collection is out now which is very exciting it is one of our final episodes together so there is an aura of sadness there's a lot of different auras here there's simply an aura of rage which i'm really trying to like not not lean into and we were already struggling with a lot of auras here of this bitter sweetness wait wait before we do did we initialize that memory card i don't think we need no we don't need to there's a lot of auras so there's also now paranoia paranoia literally ptsd and paranoia it's a it's a form of ptsd for sure there's an aura of you know

joyousness and celebration because this merch launch we've worked on for so long we will not let ben's offer ruin even though it's all he wants to do and there is that aura of rage that I'm really not trying to let come to the service because it will once you let it get to a level like it will take over yeah no I'm keeping turdy at bay you guys as best I can there's an aura of sadness because after three wonderful weeks together we will be separated yeah and I'm like not feeling so sad about that because there's an aura of happiness what's left for me like on my journey is a gorgeous trip to a place I've never been to um you might be feeling sadness because there's just going to be like this hole in your heart and this hole in your house it's true the house is going to be really quiet I am finding the bright side of things I'm looking forward to being very

productive after you go are you just like sitting here thinking about all the funny conversations we had like that thing about camp that was so funny so funny we'll find a way to get back there but then we have to act with each other and you know we're not recreating conversations like we don't just and not it's not who we are the thing is i would be happy to have the conversation again and let you guys know like oh this is what we said but i know that you guys find it annoying when we keep saying this is what we said but we can't act we're not actresses we're not part of sag aftra well that's true and it's just like we're too authentic for our own good like if we were different podcasters we could

sit here and like recreate hunk of pursuit teresa caputo like you guys would get that reference if you heard the first fucking episode it's okay calm calmness oh it's a. Calm. Calmness. Calm. It's a beautiful day. Our second class episode together. So even though Triti's leaving today, there will be another episode of The Toast tomorrow. Yes.

That we're recording later today. And then Thursday, while there is no new episode of The Toast, we recorded a super fun Patreon yesterday that you can watch on Thursday. We'll release it on Thursday so you have something to watch then. What would you call yesterday's episode? I would call it a lunch and learn because we had lunch I would call

it a lunch and learn yes we had lunch in my car and we learned about each other we played this game that we found Jackie hated it but it was so fun I didn't and we had a disgusting lunch in the car like we were poisoned I'm sorry good dessert it's a disgusting lunch I I love that. No, no, no. I got it. I got it. Disgusting and discussing. That's what we were doing. We were disgusted, but we were also having discussions. We were. They were good questions, even though I didn't hate your game.

You're hell bent on like pitting me against your game. You were just like, you wanted the game so badly not to be fun. Like, cause you hate games. I do hate games. So you were like, you were rooting against the game. I don't't think i was i just wanted the game to be better i just wanted the game to be over that too so it's a really fun vlog it's like a combination of a mukbang get to know us car car thing now that i have a car and i drive you understand why people make so much content in their car of course first of all the lighting of course uh uh first of all the lighting second of all like the privacy and the silence that i

can't find in my own house and it's just like there's something about it that's an elite experience like i don't care how old you are like when you're riding dirty in your car there's nothing cooler i agree like and you're definitely in that stage where like a 16 year old who walks into homeroom with like their key ring around their finger, like, hey, anybody need a ride? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm so in my anybody need a ride stage. Oh, you need me to run to the store?

We need milk? Milk? I'm on it. Yeah. No, you're definitely in your role. If anybody needs to make a call, I've got a phone. For sure. But these weeks have actually been so wonderfully, wonderful, period, for a myriad of reasons.

The show, the bonding, the sisterhood. But it came at the perfect screw sisterhood came at the perfect time in my driving journey because what i've really needed is a driving buddy and it's hard to get that like with my husband because like then where are our children and turdy has been accompanying me around town she'll help me know if i can change lanes. And not a scratch on me. What do I do at this turning point? Yeah, I do think you need to drive alone a little bit. Because especially when it comes to switching lanes, that's probably the hardest part of driving.

I completely agree. But you didn't really do anything. It was my neck. I was relying on you. And the camera in front of you. You really need to turn your neck, always. Because there is a blind spot that the camera can't catch my driving teacher said that my turning camera is really great the tesla one like is superior but you won't always be driving a

tesla like you need to turn your neck that's true even though i need to always be driving a tesla for other reasons like we're going away next weekend like i literally want to rent a tesla do it we weren't going to rent a car oh well i'm like but i just need a tesla oh my god she's itching she needs a vein she's addicted um so it has been so great watching you thrive in your driving journey i'm really proud of you you're you're really you know making enormous strides thank you so much you're a chatty driver you are i like you narrate what's going on what's going on i'm just trying to make a tiktok so if you could shut the fuck up you wouldn't expect that from me because i'm not a chatty person aside from the show of course you really wouldn't expect it for me because I'm not a chatty person. Aside from this show.

Of course. You really wouldn't expect it from me because it's like, yeah, I talk for a living. But if you know me, my personal life, I am not chatty. I think sometimes people

are really thrown by that. And certainly I do not chat in the car. Like the way I can zone out in the car and it'll be 30 minutes. I'm like, I'm like Raven Simone. I pop back in. Pop back in.

So I am devastated to be leaving. And I think we've done some great work here at The Toast. Let's talk about The Toast at a glance, Florida edition. We've done some great work. We've had some great clips. Oh, what was that clip we said we were going to make in the old podcast? I think it's still. I remember what it was.

It was a nice highlight reel from our time together. And we need to have a song play over it because you guys miss in the old podcast. And I'm not going to keep doing this, but this part I will. Jackie. I just, I, I sing a song for you. I turn into a duet, of course, because it can never be a solo

if Turdy's not singing. You know, because my bags are packed. I'm leaving. Her bags are packed. She's ready to go. I'm standing here outside her door. I hate to wake brew up to say goodbye but the dawn is breaking this early morn the taxis waiting he's blowing his horn so lonesome I could cry. So kiss me and smile for me. Tell me that you'll wait for me. Hold me like

you'll never let me go. Cause I'm leaving on a jet plane. Don't know when i'll be back again oh babe i hate to go it's so funny like us like singing this song like sweet singing is the antithesis of how i'm feeling inside like on the inside i'm filled with a red hot rage and i'm here like so kiss me and smile for me like yeah i feel angry and the song i want to be singing is like so kill me like slay my husband like that's really what i want to be singing through the pain yeah no it was just like i actually was really having a hard time not laughing it was the most disingenuous i've ever been like singing that song sweet little girl singing like swaying and snapping with her sister in her brain she's thinking knife knife knife i thought we sounded nice we did of

course but i was just laughing of course everything we do is right and good of course because we're amazing and we're helpful and we make the good guys who they are the good. They need a rebrand. Bad, bad, bad boys. Bad boys. Not literally. I'm sorry to have taken us back to that dark place. Yeah, because we sang a beautiful song. We're going to put together a really pretty montage from our time together here. I'm really excited about that.

Clip it. Like if we don't make you cry, fail. Speaking of clip, give me that. I want to talk about this. Oh, this? Yeah. So we were watching Vanderpump Rules the other night, and I saw, and I've actually seen weirdly also Chelsea

from Vanderpump Rules, from Love is Blind. She had this type of clip in her hair the entire show. And then I saw Lala wearing it. I've been wearing so many claw clips, and they're actually really ugly. And I've seen a lot of people wearing these gold metal ones, and I think they're cool. So I bought some for my trip,

because I imagine I'll have like wet hair a lot. It's just not going to be like a gorgeous hair trip. And I bought a pack of like six so I could give you some. And I was like, Jackie, I got you a present. Like here, I gave you this claw clip. And she made this fucking face. Like she was like, what? Like she was like, that's the ugliest fucking thing I've ever seen.

I don't think I said that. I just like didn't find it to be so cute. I wasn't so moved by it. I put it in my hair and it hurt. And it also like you get like strands caught up in it. It's painful. It's a painful experience. Yet here you are. Well, you wore it on our original episode that will never make the air. I did. I had my hair up in the original episode. I took it down midway through just in case it looked bad, you know, because you just never know. Yeah. I like to do a multiple style. Switch up on them. Soon I'll have to put it back up in the claw clip.

I just like, I thought you were extremely ungracious in the reception of the gift. Thank you, but I don't like it and I don't want it. Thanks, but no thanks. Literally thanks, but no thanks. I just want to say when you were wearing it this morning, you looked so cool. Like your hair looked cool. And with your red hair, like I'm not going to force you to take this. Like I'll take it. But with your red hair and like the gold the gold it really looked gorgeous i just want to say you gave me three i thought this was the nicest looking one

the other two were butt ugly oh my god like be gracious so many gifts i gave you this trip like i i just what else did you give me the queen pajamas bitch true my presents of course of course i gave you my entire closet you gave me i'm not i didn't say you can get and was did i ever take something like this is disgusting imagine you would though i wouldn't i would never you would i would never okay well i'm not gonna let like what ben did come between us it's true we're lashing out now at each other we're sad over the last episode. We're sad over the time,

you know, that we've had coming to an end. So we're obviously like being, like you were, last night you were just lashing out at me. You wanted me to turn away and run so you wouldn't have to be, you know,

sad that I'm leaving. You could just be happy that I'm gone. Yeah, we're just sort of pushing each other away so it makes saying goodbye easier. Yeah. But it's never going to be easy. Never.

And these three weeks like have just been so special and we don't want them to end even though you're going to same parts and like that's all well and good it's good it's good but like i can you know last night we were having dinner and everyone was together and i made like a little speech i almost like i teared up because it really like i'm so sad to be leaving i love it here i love you you've been so great to me and everyone has and i'm just i am really sad to be leaving I also do want to clip the moment I realized that we weren't recording because I literally I think I screamed like I was being kidnapped yeah and I knew immediately I saw you like looked at the roadcaster yeah and

you screamed I'm like there's something and I saw we were recording but then we were one down and yesterday we caught it before we recorded because he still didn't put the studio back together that's true he didn't put the second mic back on but you eagle-eyed podcaster figured it out before we recorded because he still didn't put the studio back together. Yes, that's true. He didn't put the second mic back on, but you, eagle-eyed podcaster, figured it out before we even began. When will we, okay, we either need to, I think we need to cleanse ourselves. We need to, I'm at a place now where I can let go. It took me 16 minutes, but I'm okay now. I'll stop talking about it.

On this episode. On this episode. But in your relationship with Ben, you need couple therapy couple therapy couple therapy i need a lawyer yeah divorce no and like i'm sure he's like has such a pick because he knows i'm gonna come down and just seriously pray for ben pray for ben and they're going on vacation together right now and this is not how you want to start a trip what should i ask for like in exchange like obviously um now i'm owed something because i can't what should i it's the debt is large right i'm just i'm gonna think about it but sound off in the comments like what should i make ben do to make this like okay

to put the rug in my room that's for you no but like it'll be it's kind of punishment he needs like manual labor actually he did do it's kind of punishment he needs like manual labor actually he did do it to both of us like think about oh there's both there are two deaths we both it's not just me yeah right no like people will say like he doesn't need to buy you anything nothing like that no he needs honestly like manual physical labor sweating thinking about what he did and how he's not going to do it again and put i have a big ass rug that needs to be moved into my room you know what's so toxic it's like now i'm starting to feel bad for ben like we need to know what i already like feel bad for him because how could he crawl out but this is like he did us

wrong why are we feeling bad for him yeah i just want to say i already feel like this episode's better than the last one like i hate to keep bringing it up and the thing is the last one was so good like solid classic toast yeah but it wasn't anything that's never been done before Yeah And that can't ever be done again And there was no like benchmark moment Like there are certain episodes I didn't wheeze laugh about anything yet

No but in this one you did About what? I don't know but I like made note of it You were wheezing twice Oh cool Oh about me singing but also being angry Yeah yeah yeah Slaps the second time

So like it's fine it's fine it's fine i just i apologize to anyone listening for whom this is a frustrating experience just i know you're frustrated imagine imagine how we feel imagine how tired we are imagine how tired we are of it okay but we're going to we're going to lay this to rest Here and now Let's have like a quick ceremony Like a funeral Okay

Here lies our rage with Ben for the moment No I'm not laying down the rage I'm laying down the episode For the moment No no I'm not laying down the rage I'm laying down the episode Like I need to make peace with the fact That that episode is never

And we're not going to recreate it Like let's just give a quick funeral eulogy For that episode Okay It was literally 41 minutes Okay we were in the second story here lies 41 minutes of toast 41 minutes that will never get to experience the life that it should have 41 minutes taken from us far too soon it's not the end it's just the beginning. It's just the beginning. If I may, with a song?

Please. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. You were bigger than the whole sky. You were more than just 41 minutes. Yes. I've got a lot to pine about. I've got a lot to rage about. I'm never gonna meet what could have been would have

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I've actually been eyeing some of Jackie's products because I've been cooking, making my hard-boiled eggs. In her Caraway products, she got this. I went with sage green and I've said this a lot. Like, that's kind of the color of my apartment. You know, I had a stylist come in and help me with that. But I'm really envying your pink Caraway.

I have a pink Caraway set. I started with the cream set and I love my cream set but then I needed the pink so I use both and when Ben uses every single dish in my kitchen,

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Local police did not confirm that it was the singer's father, but said a 71-year-old man allegedly assaulted a 51-year-old man at Neutral Bay Wharf at about 2.30 a.m., a New South Wales police spokesperson said. Swift's camp said this, assaulted a 51 year old man at neutral bay wharf at about 2 30 a.m a new south wales police spokesperson said swifts camp said this quote two individuals were aggressively pushing their way towards tailored grabbing at her security personnel and threatening to throw a female staff member into the water i mean i feel like this really tracks like scott swifts has a history of being extremely violent he's like literally a Criminal um he's so like filled with

Rage actually really um like relate to Him in that sense um and so like this Really tracks and i think he should be Thrown in australian prison and throw Away the key you know lock him up and Throw away the key for sure this is About time someone caught him yeah this Crazy lunatic crazy violent criminal

This is so dumb the paparazzi is giving Such like victim energy the thing is When you dumb the paparazzi is giving such like victim energy the thing is when you're a paparazzi and your job is like literally stalk people like i'm never gonna feel bad for you i don't even care if scott's would like just punch this innocent man in the face who was standing 30 feet away from him like to me the paparazzo is always the the perpetrator yeah the aggressor and there's a video of it but you can't see anything everyone's like like analyzing this video it's don't waste your time I tried there's literally nothing to see like the car is blocking the whole thing and you're literally watching a car door the entire video it's so stupid um but I did watch it like

50 times that's weird that there's always like eyes on tailored and cameras everywhere and they don't have the video of this oh so she's actually in the video and she does this quite a lot when she does not want to be photographed she's literally walking through the street her dad is holding her arm she has an umbrella closed over her face does not want to be photographed. She's literally walking through the street. Her dad is holding her arm. She has an umbrella closed over her face. So you can't see her face. It's literally just her body and her dad is holding her hand, like guiding her to the car.

She did not want her face. Why wouldn't she want to be seen? Like that, I understand why people don't want to be seen sometimes, but why do you think? She does that umbrella thing pretty much every single time she gets off of her private jet. I've never seen her do it in like public on the street. Like maybe she wasn't wearing makeup and she didn't want to be.

Like maybe she just, I don't know. But I agree. I've never seen her do that anywhere other than her, the tarmac, if you will. Yeah, maybe she flies without makeup. You know, because it's bad for your skin. Who flies with makeup? You do sometimes.

So if I, actually, yeah, I do sometimes. Sometimes I like to look presentable you know i'm going out into the world who i'm traveling with like when i'm going to a wedding and i know there's like only three flights and like most of the guests are on this flight i'm putting on makeup um the you know the handful of times i've flown private we gotta look our best gotta step their pussy up if i'm traveling like on a group trip or something maybe but i'll usually before a trip depending on where i'm going, I usually have a spray tan.

Yeah. And it's not the vibe. And a blowout. So I look decent. Oh, true. But also you're not going to put makeup over your spray tan. No, no. You have to take off your makeup and you take off a layer of spray tan before the trip's

even started. No, of course. But like there's a special like girly feeling of getting a spray tan and not showering before the flight. So you're really like the most developed and you go pee in the bathroom and like you look crazy in the bathroom. It's like the best feeling just knowing how beautiful you're really like the most developed and you go pee in the bathroom and like you look crazy in the bathroom. That's like the best feeling, just knowing how beautiful you're gonna look

when you take a shower. And when you're in the bathroom, it's like so confined. You smell your spray tan like everywhere. Yeah, like that to me, that's like better than like sniffing glue. Like that's the best. Yeah, all of that to say,

it's case dependent whether or not I'm traveling with makeup, but it's not great for your skin to do so. But it's also just like not, I can't decide which argument's stronger. Like, do want to look presentable when you're flying on an airplane or like have we committed to slobhood we've committed to slobhood i'm sorry like look around yeah so we're just yeah we're gonna give up that fight but i i also feel like the airlines demand slobhood they treat you like a slob you know and everything is disgusting and dirty like why would i show up

my best when they're not putting their best foot forward why should I know it's so true but back to tailored and Scott um the paparazzi who's like claiming that he was like a victim of battery it's giving very much like hey look at me it's like ow it's giving like a toddler yeah when like they fall and they're really not in pain and they start crying it It's giving attention whore. Yeah. It's giving loser searching for victimhood. It's giving, hey, look at me. Hey, look at me and look, we're looking at you. So. And we don't like what we see.

No, congratulations. You play yourself. Congratulations. You played yourself. So yeah, hopefully the, this works itself out. I'm not worried. Scott is, you know, Scott is a law abiding citizen. Yeah.

No matter where he is, you know, these are different laws, but I'm sure he's abiding by them. Yeah. But you also like, you don't want to be caught out in another country for eating the law. It's giving. Amanda Knox. Oh no. What's her name? That show you like?

Brittany Griner. Oh. Being out of the country. Like you never know. You could get detained. It's true. That's why when people like, even just people I know like travel with like their weed pens. I'm like, did you learn nothing from Brittany Griner? Like to me, that's why when people like even just people i know like travel with like their weed pens i'm like did you learn nothing from britney griner like to me that's

my worst emmer also i know i always talk about this stupid show brian made me watch once locked up that's what i thought you were gonna say oh my god and those people were like drug mules it's not the same as like a vape pen or like having a loose joint in your makeup case these people were like swallowing rubber band fulls of oh they did that shit you know they were like actual people like being drug mules carrying like illegal amounts of meth. They were committing crimes and so thus they were locked up abroad.

Yeah, not like... Not like framed or suspected. No, no, not only that. It wasn't like a minor... Like there are different amounts that get different sentences. Like someone having one joint or one vape pen is different

than like having a block of cocaine stuck up their ass, you know? Yeah, yeah. but of course it does make me think of that show locked up abroad which i feel everybody should just watch so like they they take it seriously everyone's into like magic mushrooms now and they travel with like their chocolates like in their oils just watch locked up abroad no but aside from drugs like just to take seriously the notion of not breaking the rules of whatever country that you're in yeah and not even getting close getting close to it or, you know, because sometimes you go to jail for something and you didn't do that shit. Right.

To not even, as best as you can, put yourself in a situation where it could even be. No, it's true. I actually should read the laws when I go to St. Barth. You should. Yeah. I really don't want to end up in a St. Bartholomew prison. That would be bad. But good for the podcast, of course.

No, because I couldn't podcast with you. The audio would be like- But no, Ben and the Taylors could come back and tell my story. You would let Ben? No, Ben would have to stay with me, of course. He's in prison with me. I don't care if he didn't even do anything. Well, because he didn't turn up the microphone in jail.

I would send the Taylors back. And Taylor's a professional podcaster. And she would host. She would fill in for me and tell my story. I would trust her to tell my story. I would too. Yeah. Trust her to tell your story.

Yeah. I'm just already feeling like this podcast is so much better like i'm feeling really good oh and by the way as we get into the next story we're back where we left we're caught up we're caught up and that's the best feeling now we can like move forward with like a clean slate tabular ass and like kind of let go of the chip on our shoulder even though ben was the one who was like you guys have to let go of the chip on your shoulder when he keeps putting a chip on every day. When he's the one literally placing it. Yeah and also eating the chip. No wonder. Before we even get a chance. Well let's talk about that while we're ragging on Ben. Jackie and I went to get like a healthy lunch at this grocery store that had good pre-made food and then we decided to buy ourselves two little treats. Two tiny little treats. One was a chocolate covered graham

cracker and the other was like a strawberry yogurt covered pretzel they were purple they looked gorgeous did you have any graham crackers I had half of one because I saw before I even opened them there was only two left I had zero I didn't even have a bite okay I didn't even have one they're gone the yogurt pretzel I'm not gonna lie I had like three or four did you have I did get to taste it but Ben sat down to watch tv with the carton like they were all got vacuum energy let's not forget the valentine's day hearts of 2024 oh my god i didn't even realize he olivia got us all chocolates for valentine's day i didn't get any no not even that you don't even know this well i said it on the show but you must have been looking for your ads or something yeah no like thinking about myself but that i had

bought chocolate hearts for everyone because i had like i had a full house and I wanted to put like chocolate hearts on everyone's pillowcase on Valentine's Day I bought them a few days before they did not make it to Valentine's Day wait by the way I didn't know this I said it on the show so that's disgusting of me like for just like literally not knowing but that's yeah I bought chocolate hearts like for your pillow for Valentine's Day and Ben ate them all I have a memory of you telling me that you were gonna put chocolate hearts on anybody on everybody's pillow like that's the many days we were sitting just like this. Yeah. But I don't know if I wasn't listening or didn't compute that you didn't get to do that because my vacuum of a husband ate them. Yes. We really need to have a sit down with him.

Like how do you guys and maybe this is just like a universal problem. How are we getting through to our husbands like we have these conversations and Ben like will walk away. I'm like i need you to listen and then he will sit down and listen and he will not change i know what do we do i think there's two paths corporal punishment there's two paths corporal punishment you're taking him to saint bart's there's two paths here we can plot how we can make it better and like we can all share tips and tricks we've learned along the way or the second path it's just like we accept them for how they are and I know it's like so it's so unfair it is it's so unfair but if we accept them from how they are then we're not expending more effort more disappointment trying to change them and we can just like bloom where they've been planted somebody needs to write a smut book because smut is like

really and everyone's tastes are different but like you get to express like your deepest fantasies where they've been planted. Somebody needs to write a smut book because smut is like really, and everyone's tastes are different, but like you get to express like your deepest fantasies in smut. So a lot of that is like, you know, for me it's like, you know, really big rich men, you know, some girls like, you know, whatever.

I need somebody to write an erotic novel about like a man who's capable, a man who plans, a man who's on time, a man who can do the dishes a man who will put the microphone thing back up like that to me is erotica well i feel like that's why those books are fantasy because they do those things so true so true but like literally tessa bailey's like somebody write a book like the capable one something like that yeah one true capable something one true capable like to me like being capable and reliable like that's better than having a six-pack oh yeah

like that's better than having like a 10 inch dick anyone can go and get a six-pack yeah and anybody can get a penile implant but not everyone can do the dishes in a timely manner and take the trash out now and be like forward thinking about like what needs to get done next yeah or like like to me like yeah you can have three orgasms in a night or you can go to take the trash out and it's already been taken out and new bags put back in or like you go to get a sparkling water and there's a cold one in the fridge okay that's like a really niche no because my husband's in charge of beverages yeah you have this problem okay my husband is in charge of beverages he's the food and beverage director not even food beverage he's a beverage because they're really heavy and that's just something i'm said like you're in charge of inventory you just like lug it from the garage like no you're in charge and he also likes to

drink an assortment of drinks so it's it's in his wheelhouse it's natural he's in charge of inventory storage shipping all of the logistics and i have no fucking cold waters in my house i barely have room temperature waters nothing is ever like where it should be i bought some drinks and left them by the door because again i'm not in charge of shipping to the bed to the kitchen i saw there was snapple and cranberry juice at the front door for weeks weeks yeah it's out there because the beverage director was i don't know by the way i saw somebody open the snapple and just take a snapple and like drink it because i saw a hole in the snapple pack i'm like oh my god somebody didn't even bring it to the kitchen they just took a snapple i bet it was ben next what i saw this morning like i'm glad i'm remembering

this because it needs this episode is so much better because i need to write him a strongly worded email of what i saw this morning you know where the snapples have ended up and the cranberry juices they finally they moved yeah where'd they go in my panch in the pantry to the right of my fridge that has like all of my tupperwares and like reusable cups they're literally stacked in a line like blocking everything that's in the pantry yeah that's bad like put them in the fridge and then my back fridge which is where we should store drinks to keep them cold only spritzes yeah by the way i got a bunch of beverages and i took it upon myself to go put them in the back fridge for everyone i got snapples i got lacroix's i got coffee um there was no space there was

spritz everywhere just everything that's in the back fridge is like alcoholic yeah and you guys don't even drink. And I just want a fucking cold Snapple and a cold Pellegrino. I'm sorry. I did put a Snapple in the fridge last night. You can have it. I saw it. It's been getting in my way.

And no, no, no. No, just like because there's not a set place for beverages. Yeah. Sorry. This is just like kind of what I'm going through. And I didn't mean to take it out on everyone. And I was actually going to keep it to myself. Do you feel better getting it out? Well now I feel like a little

nitpicky. Yeah no me too but like look at us feeling bad. Stop it. Like really you have one job. Beverage logistics. Beverages. No beverages are never where they need to be and the worst is like when I'm making a bottle. You're riling me up now. The worst is when I'm going to make a bottle for Charlie and I'm going for a room temperature bottle of water because like there's well for i use room temperature for his bottles but not that there's any in the fridge and when i can't find a bottle of water because they're like in the garage and you're cursing his name and i'm like oh holding a baby trying to make a bottle he's hungry screaming crying throwing fuck is my water? It's my guitar.

I need to shake it off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now we're like, we've kind of swapped. I'm feeling good. No, no, no. I'm feeling like this is maybe our best episode yet. Yeah, and by the way, as we say, we're back to where we were. This isn't about the previous episode.

This is just about beverage logistics. And we've had guests. We didn't have cold beverages. I can't. It's humiliating. Humiliating. So embarrassing. You don't have guests? Like, who? You. Oh, I'm not a guest. I'm't. It's humiliating. Humiliating. So embarrassing. You don't have guests.

Like who? You. Oh, I'm not a guest. I'm family. I know. But you want to put your best foot forward. Of course. Of course.

Our next story. Speaking of lovely relationships, Brielle Bierman is engaged to baseball player Billy Seidel. She posted on Monday that she got engaged to Billy Seidel nearly a year after they took their romance public. She said, forever with you. I didn't even know she had a boyfriend. This story really just kind of was planted in my lap and I was overjoyed. You know how I feel about this family and I know some people are going to be like, why is this a story? And like, I understand. But you don't understand. Beerman News is extremely personal to me. It doesn't cross our desk without us discussing it aside from like all this divorce back and forth because we can't keep

up with back and forth yeah where did they land with that by the way i don't know yeah it was too much and i don't want to talk about like sad beer man news i only want to talk about hbn happy beer man news and this is so and i feel like in the last year or two it's kind of been a tumultuous time for the beer man's financially divorce the police were called all those different things and it just appears as though like rial has been keeping her head down like moving in silence you know influencing building a business she got her lip filler dissolved and apparently she's been falling in love and you know what we stand you know it's her and bridget mendler moving in silence just popping up with good news. Love that. That's how everybody should do. Yeah. Really happy for her. Congrats.

Congrats, grads. Congrats, grads. I just love the Biermans. And you know, I had a dream that Brielle Bierman, the night before last, I had a dream that she was pregnant and like gave birth to a baby. And I don't dream about her often. And then I woke up and like 12 hours later saw the news that she was pregnant. I mean, excuse me, not pregnant, engaged.

So I feel like, I don't know, like I kind of made this happen. I don't know. I just feel connected to the story in some way. I can't explain it. Maybe it's like in a third eye sort of way because I definitely have like clairvoyant tendencies. Or in a making things about you sort of way. No, no, no, no. Never. No, not never. Just not now. Okay. Well, yeah, maybe you are cosmically connected to the Biermans. I wouldn't put that past you. Me neither. And you know what? Maybe in like a prior life. The thing is, it's so crazy. Like I'm actually friendly with Brielle Beerman.

I feel like if I wanted to, because a place like I need to visit before I die, people always say like, I need to see the pyramids before I die. I need to see the Beerman house before I die. And I feel like I literally could. Like if I said to Brielle, like, can I come over? She would be like, yeah.

When you're in Atlanta next. Right, and I actually go to Atlanta, like not never was just there yeah well I was in Athens but still not never life brings us there and it's so convenient to get to from New York so many Delta flights yeah like I like would like to spend the night there and I would do a 24-hour live stream yeah I mean they have a chef yeah fuck me up they have a pool I'll go in the summer like me and Brielle could have a pool party and I would get to go on like a double date loving it hopefully Ben gets to go oh never mind he's done take it back it's a girl's weekend girl's weekend he's not coming to atlanta fuck him

are you ready for our next story a little fashion news and this is exactly where we were when we and by the way 41 minutes oh my god that's crazy that's really crazy because i wow i didn't expect that but i was saying fashion news and turdy said i always say fashion this is where we were she said i always say fashion every time i say it she thinks i'm gonna say fascist because it's the way you emphasize a little fash like you always put the emphasis on the first syllable i just want to know it's never felt that way to me but it does to you because of friends and you wanted to issue a correction yes the reason why Jackie always um reminds me of the word fascist when she says fashion is because that episode of friends where Joey says you know

girls who are into fashion are fascists because he's like dumb and brain dead and like probably like needs help um and then it reminded me I wanted to issue a correction yesterday when we were recapping oh my god I'm having PTSD when we was literally the sentence when you said shane gillis oh fuck that's literally how i went like um when we were recapping shane gillis we were talking about the r word and jackie you were like didn't you don't you always say claudia that friends uses the r word i'm like no what are you talking about yes they do i forgot phoebe yes so they do use it. I was incorrect. And you were right. And I was wrong.

And I'm dumb. And you're stupid. And I'm dumb. And you're smart. And there's nothing you can do about it. And there's nothing you can do about it. But to your credit, they have taken that out of reruns. So yes. Yes.

And Phoebe says it with an accent. So I had forgotten. She says, he's un re. You know? Yeah. Regard. Right. Right.

Right. Our next story. Fashion news. Not fascist news. Monica Lewinsky is an empowered woman at 50 in a new Reformation fashion and voting campaign. So Monica Lewinsky is rocking everything from a bold leather trench to her signature little black dress.

Black dress. Black hair. As she stars in Reformation's latest fashion campaign, and she's aiming to get women to use their voice at the polls. The 50-year-old former White House employee looks stunning in the brand's new images, with Lewinsky and Reformation teaming up with Vote.org to encourage women to cast their votes in style. Let me ask you a question.

Are women not voting, first of all? Second of all, like, why? I actually like the idea of like Monica Lewinsky being like a spokesperson for like fashion like something like sure go off queen like she deserves her flowers her life was ruined um but like it like why like why is it a commercial and then they just like slap on voting like do you know what I mean like I have such a problem with the way we talk about voting you guys know like the way influencers talk about voting it's like a real trigger for me and the way like just vote.org and like on Facebook you can't open fucking Facebook

without that vote thing coming up it's like demeaning to my intelligence like I am registered to vote and I just think like the way we slap voting onto things like it so makes no sense and it's so performative yeah this included people who shop at Reformation are registered to vote yeah it no it's just like a lot of things at once. You're doing too much. And it makes no sense. It's not cohesive. Like what does shopping, Monica Lewinsky, and voting have to do?

I think the message is get to the polls in style with Reformation. So it's also like voting and doing vote.org is kind of like non-profit sort of thing. But you're also like pushing your dresses so we're like shopping and you know what i mean it's like i just want to say like i actually also don't agree with the concept of shop of shopping i'm not excuse me voting in style voting in style like voting is an extremely inconvenient thing like people do it you know after work during their lunch break in their gym clothes like would i have to go home and change now i'm never gonna get to the polls yeah i think like it's kind of profiting off of voting, which is the opposite of what these voter campaigns

should be doing. Agreed. And it's doing a little too much. And I like Monica. I like, yeah, I like Monica Lewinsky. I don't know her. But I like Reformation is what I say. I like the brand.

I like the partnership. I think the clothes look really nice. But all in all, this is not doing it for me. Same. But I do like the idea of Monica Lewinsky having a moment. I think with the Beanie Feldstein show, was excellent she definitely had a moment then and I think she's continuing to have that moment um so I'm here for that like I actually thought this was like different and creative and this is good for reformation like a brand that I feel like we don't

like nobody talks about you know yeah we're talking about them now but I just it makes it always makes me think about like the whole voting marketing thing for at a glance. I just feel like it's so weird. And that's not to say it is important to vote. That's not what I'm saying. I just find the way that in media it's spoken about, it's almost so dumb it's derogatory. It's derogatory to people's intelligence. And people will say a lot of people need the tools. People have brains too.

And they know that it's voting coming up like we don't need all this like excess it is very condescending bring a snack drive your elderly neighbor look up your polling place it's the same fucking place every year it's the middle school like it's just it frustrates me yeah and this is a little bit of a reach i would say yeah yeah like and i think this campaign would have made waves regardless like with monica lewinsky um she looks beautiful like she really does the clothes are great the clothes are great i just like i hate all this like voting marketing i think it's being done wrong and that's not to say it shouldn't be done it should be but it's wrong yeah i don't like it but, it's like, so what month is it?

February. This is going to be a long year, Turdy. It's begun, you guys. Gird your loins. Gird your loins. That is one of my favorite phrases, and I have to thank Stanley Tucci for it. Of course. I had never heard it before that.

I'm sure it existed, but he definitely popularized the phrase, gird your loins. You know what else is happening this year that we haven't discussed? Olympics. We have discussed? Olympics. We have discussed. Okay. I think we discussed it on the previous episode briefly, but not enough. So I'm glad I'm bringing it back to the fore. What?

Leap year. It's not even happening this year. It's happening this week. This week is a leap year week. And I just think leap years are really fascinating. I do too. Especially like when I learned like why they happen. Like, you know, every year is actually not 365 days. It's 365 days and six hours so every four years we get an extra day and that's February 29th and I always think about the people of course

who were born on February 29th. Right but you know what I realized recently that there are people who are born in August on August 29th 30th and 31st who don't have half birthdays riddle me that why wouldn't somebody born on august 30th not have a half birthday february 30th oh duh oh my god the august to february pipeline but then also then it made me realize people who are born on the 31st of other months of other months their six-month counterpart they might not have half birthdays i didn't know there were people out that like struggling without a half birthday that's why it's actually like really great that half birthdays are fucking meaningless because like this doesn't matter you know i feel like it does well we didn't celebrate my half

birthday so it doesn't fucking matter you didn't make it a thing well you know it's usually at your half birthday is when we start talking about your birthday. And we actually did start talking about your birthday last night. We're not talking about my birthday on this podcast. Move on. Move on? Move on. Okay. Moving on to Monica Lewinsky for Reformation.

Cute, but like do better. And like, can we just pause with the vote stuff? Like, just can you wait till the fall? No, the timing doesn't bother me. Can we just redirect, like re re-imagine reimagine how weren't like encouraging people to vote because the way they just slap it on random things that have no tie-in fucking dresses like it makes no sense and honestly makes me not want to vote okay yeah all that to say make sure you're registered to vote and get out the vote vote. And get out the vote. Vote.org. Get out the vote in 10 months, you guys.

Yeah, you have time. Don't worry. Yeah. But we'll remind you every day till then. And you know what? You can just wear your Toast merch. Like, it's not... Oh, by the way.

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That's S-T-A-T-E of D-A-Y. Thank you. You're welcome. Our next story, one of your favorite couples has welcomed another bebe. Jessie James Decker? No, but she did also welcome a bebe. Yeah, but I was like, she's not one of my favorite couples. I like her, but she's not like one of my favorites oh wow okay um i really didn't

mean that in a shady way i just thought that's who you were talking about no miranda kerr has welcomed her fourth baby her third with her husband evan spiegel obsessed with her miranda kerr is a four-time mom she gave birth to baby number four her third with her husband evan spiegel because she has one child with or Bloom who she co-parents beautifully with with Katy Perry love she said we are overjoyed by the arrival of our little ray of sunshine Pierre Kerr Spiegel we couldn't be more excited to welcome our fourth son into our family feeling so very blessed now read me the names of all of her kids so I know how Pierre fits in the group Hart is five h-a-r-t yep Miles m-y-l-e-s is four and pierre is just born but then her son with orlando bloom is flynn i think it works really i don't i feel like flynn hart and what's the third miles

are so like all american pierre is giving croissant i like pierre i it too, but I feel like it so doesn't fit. I actually love the names of her first three kids. Flynn, Hart, and... Miles. Like so... Like, I'm not like... I don't know like linguistics or anything, but I feel like they're from the same like Greek... Yeah, Elk.

Thank you. The thing is, the reason why these four work for me is because I like them all. Yeah. I like the name Pierre. I just feel it doesn't fit with the group. Because I saw it first and I really liked it It doesn't it's not the outlier

Like for me it's always It kind of is a linchpin for me It gives Hercule Perrault you know Yeah And it's a beautiful name What about Hart Perrault Like no you see what I'm saying I do know

Flynn Perrault Flynn Perrault I love Miranda Kerr she can do absolutely no wrong We love you you know, the way she's just kind of, it's really, I feel like she's having like ideal model retirement life. Like she married a businessman, Beau, who is literally a billionaire. They have a ton of kids. She has a really successful business, Cora Organics. She's not like overexposed. She doesn't go to like a million parties. Like every time she shows up, like people turn around. Like I just

love her. And then she has like the connection to Katy Perry, which I feel like keeps her really relevant. Like I just love. No, beautiful. Also low key that she has so many kids. Yeah. I didn't realize. And also I saw yesterday, like she has four kids and now in Hungary, if you have four more babies, you don't have to pay income tax for life.

Does she live in Hungary? No, but like, isn't that an interesting policy? Oh, moving to Hungary and having four kids. Right. No, that's motivational yeah do they want people to have kids in hungary is that yeah they want to you know increase their population as some people do like what is a lot like what is something the birth rate like in america if they had said like if you do x you don't have to pay income tax like what is something that i would do

like would you have four kids to not pay income tax yeah i mean i i do want to have a lot of kids but like the act of actually having them is like a whole other question right so like if they said like you have to you know never like have soda again like i would of course if they said you have to like there's really there's nothing i would consider anything also whatever they're asking you to do you would hope you never know what your benefit would be to your benefit or something that's like the benefit of the nation for society. Yeah. You know, people could disagree on what that is. So that's why it's not cut and dry.

But I would consider most things to not pay income tax. But Miranda doesn't live in Hungary is what you're saying. You were just bringing that up. I was just bringing that up because she has four kids. Interesting. This is a new Hungarian policy. It's like the opposite of China. Yeah.

Where you're only allowed to have one. Which I always think about. Like what if you have twins? They definitely have a twin loophole. Okay. I would hope. Right. Quintuplets?

I would hope. What about Octomom? How would she fare in China? Makes you think. I don't think she would do fair well. Me neither. Yeah. I don't think really any of us would.

Yeah. I don't know. Just do farewell. Me neither. Yeah. I don't think really any of us would. Yeah. I don't know. Just something to think about. Yeah. So are you ready for our fifth and final story, which is actually going to lead into a mini TV recap because we discussed in the previous episode, but we didn't even need to discuss it until now,

that Claudia and I are caught up on Vanderpump Rules. We did that over the weekend and we forgot to recap yesterday. We were planning on it, but we just, you know, time got away from us. tom sandoval is denying ariana maddox's request to sell their home that they share claiming she did not act responsibly responsive reasonably and in good faith oh he was saying she's a bad faith actor he said so he said she got her bfa yep tom sandoval rejected ariana maddox's request to sell their shared home after she sued him for refusing to give up their sprawling $2 million L.A. property. Court documents

obtained by Page Six reveal that Sandoval responded to Maddox's filing on Friday, claiming she failed to disclose sufficient facts to state a cause of action against him when she submitted the lawsuit last month. Per the L.A. court filing, the Vanderpump Rural star further claimed his ex-girlfriend and co-star also failed to mitigate whatever damages she suffered in her documents, adding she didn't perform reasonably and in good faith. In the event the court sides with Ariana to partition the property, Sandoval requested to receive accounting and compensatory adjustments for any repairs and improvements he's made to increase the value of the home, the documents said. But in the most recent episodes, I was shocked to hear that Tom Sandoval has offered to buy Ariana out of the house and sent her like a letter of intent. And she got no response. Like, it sounds like Ariana is more so focused on selling the house than she is like just getting out of it.

Yes, because she wants Tom to have to get out of it too. She doesn't think it's fair if his life is unchanged. She gets the whole house after he buys it from her. And that's just too easy for him. I just want to say like I understand that but at this point in time like after all that's happened to Ariana like I feel like she should make peace with the fact that she probably made like three million dollars post-Scanaball in terms of like Dancing with the Stars all those brand deals commercials she was everywhere everywhere all at once um I would make peace with that like knowing like Tom Sandoval doesn't have a pot to piss in. If he does keep the house,

like I swear to God, he will probably have to foreclose on it. Like he has no money. Like I would make peace with the fact like, yeah, okay, he might not be inconvenienced and that's annoying, but like with all that's happened to me,

like I would be able to make peace with it. But also, And how is living with him better? Spending so much time to like stick it to him, to inconvenience him is really just inconveniencing you. The way that they live is insane. And not the way to like start fresh and leave this behind you. And like that's what she deserves too.

Like yes, if she is able to leave this behind her, that in turn means that like Tom gets to do it too. But why are you holding yourself back just to punish him? And by the the way it's entirely possible that how they're living now is different than how they're living in the show because the show was probably like eight months ago i don't think so if if they haven't sold the house and she refuses to give it to him and he's not moving either because this is his like plot of land in this world he has nowhere else to go yeah i think they're still living like this i mean that's insane and and one of the big storylines coming up is this trip to big bear or no like mean, that's insane. And one of the big storylines coming up

is this trip to Big Bear, or no, Lake Tahoe. That's where Lisa's opening a new restaurant, which I thought was really interesting. And Lisa's weirdly turned into one of my favorite characters on the show because I used to not be able to stand her. And Ariana and Katie are both refusing to go because Tom Sandoval's going.

And you actually had pointed out how- Like Tom Sandoval, Ariana was like, I'm not going on a trip and being in a house with Tom. And it's like, you live in a house with Tom, just the two of you. Alone. At how like Tom's Kate Ariana was like I'm not going on a trip and being in a house with Tom and it's like you live in a house with Tom just the two of you alone there's other people right and so it's really I feel not so much about um like being near Tom because that's clearly not that's something she can withstand because you're right she she lives with him um it's more so about I feel like they're trying to get him off the show and if everybody refuses to film with him then you really can't be a part of that show like you see even in the first couple episodes like it's him and kyle chan and him

and that waiter jesse who was on one episode and it's just not enough and billy lee right so if it's just you know billy jesse and kyle tom's not going to be able to to really stay on the show for so long but him going on the trip and everyone agreeing to be on the in the house with him besides katie and ariana like does give tom longevity on the show and i think that's more so what it's about not proximity to Tom because if it was about that she would sell the house or I mean sell it to Tom right yeah just it's it's also interesting how the conversation is changing especially because Lisa sort of really moved the needle and she's seeing it from a different perspective and starting to feel sorry for Tom and I'm just like kind of realizing about myself I'm kind of like very like believe I like I just believe people I'm kind of like willy-nilly like when

they're now Sheena and Lala are like questioning their treatment of Tom and like maybe he deserves just like to be treated I have to tell you something you're gonna freak out why on your oh my gosh what's that? I think it's Bruno's butthole on your new merch. Was he booty here? I don't know. What else would it be? Do you have chocolate this morning?

I haven't eaten yet. I think you have a little. I would have my banana. Dog poo. Bruno, my angel. It'll come out. Oh, I'm not worried about it. It's just like gross.

Are you comfortable sitting with Doody on your sweater? Like that? Yeah. For the show after what we've been through and I actually like literally need to leave in five minutes yeah we've been through worse i have not a moment to spare okay um what were you gonna say you believe people are you believing tom tom sandoval what to believe what's to believe like that he's really sorry and that he was suicidal no well he's definitely like will say anything to just claw himself out of this

hole but like i think the show is struggling because they're grappling with two extremes like whether to like totally be like against tom you know merchandising and profiting off of scandival or being friends with him again where it's like i just think it could just be neither of those things and just like goodbye but i don't need to like talk about you on my podcast all the time but it feels like the people who are kind of questioning their treatment of him like now need to consider being friends with him again it's weird it is weird but like in this episode was the first time where I looked at Schwartz and I've been I mean everybody is just like hated Schwartz but I was like I asked myself

the question like has Schwartz been the most scrupled one this whole time by not like even though his best friend did downright dog by like not abandoning him right when everyone else did i don't know it just made me like think differently about the situation which i think it was intended to do and that's what lisa wants because she's like worried about tom sandoval and i'm not so worried about tom sandoval me neither at that point i would be worried about raquel yeah but even though like what tom sandoval has been through like if he were like a a normal person, like is more than one person can bear,

but thankfully he's so delusional. And narcissistic that like, I agree. And if anybody went through what Tom Sandoval went to and they weren't Tom Sandoval, suicidal thoughts like are so natural. Like it's more than one person can handle, correct. But because he lives in this beyondly and like delusional weird universe

where he's this like main character, he might be immune beyondly and like delusional weird universe where he's this like main character he might be immune to it like for real which is a great form of protection for him but it's still not how you should go around treating people and if someone did what he did like of course there's that like immediate reflex to be like so angry and Rachel but eventually you have to just like let it go and let them go they can't really let him go because he's on the show with them so they toggle between these two extremes but I'm just kind of over this end of the extreme I agree punishment for Tom Sandoval like I want to move on because also when you think about like things that people can do like terrible things that people do like he cheated on his girlfriend and and it's it's good. There's just one thing about the show that's really pissing me off.

But it's like not capital crime. Right. One thing about the show that's really pissing me off and just feels like no one is saying is like Ariana hates Tom. She will not be near him. She thinks he's so disgusting. He hates his personality. Yeah.

Everything. And we know. Like you and I know. We've been knowing. And like where's the accountability for the fact like this is the worst person on the planet and up until a year ago you were in love with him and like would have done anything for him and you were riding for me you were defending him to everyone like where's the accountability it's like that was your man like yeah we are talking about him because you were dating him like where's the accountability like he's horrible and you loved

him like hello yeah and he was always this way it's not like his personality has really changed since right aside from like the only thing a little bit more extreme but he's always been this person he's always been this like narcissistic person all about me person going off and it's not like his personality has really changed since right aside from like the only it's gotten a little bit more extreme but he's always been this person he's always been this like narcissistic person all about me person she's just like going off and it's like we've been knowing girl like you know yeah like thanks girl we knew yeah it's like a little frustrating it is frustrating you just want to like shake her and it's like all right like honestly like we're tired of hearing it yeah no one like you dated him like you brought this mess to us like we're we're living through this because of you like like sustained and condoned his behavior when like it's been bad

for a while you know he was made into a monster like with you like the things that you're cringing that he's doing now like he's been doing them right right and you were cheering the band like you were the night you found out he was cheating on you like you were literally dancing front row like loving his show and it's like yikes so that's just the only thing that's like bothering me it's like the change of you were literally dancing front row, like loving his show. And it's like, yikes. So that's just the only thing that's like bothering me. It's like the change of heart. I love it because I agree with everything she's saying. But it's like now she's like before going so hard against him as she should because of him cheating on her.

But like and the things on his like personality scorecard, it's like those were also the things that like you were supporting. So yeah, we we all we knew. I don't want to say we all because other people we knew he was their favorite so thus concludes like the most insane journey of this podcast episode we made it to the end we are grateful we are humbled and we will see you tomorrow don't forget to shop merch at shop toast merch.com we love you we have an episode tomorrow but if you want us to help you get through the short break head over to patreon.com slash a toast there's episodes four days love ya bye