The Toast - Raging Against Love Island with Juliette Porter: Monday, June 23rd, 2025

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Monday. Today I am joined by Juliet Porter.

I'm so excited that you're here. Juliet is from Siesta Key. Originally now you're like a Miami swirly, but I watch every episode of every season of Siesta Key. So this means so much to me. Welcome to The Toast, Juliet. Thank you for having me. It's been years. it's been years.

It's been years, you did come on the Breath once and the Toast once. So first it was the Morning Breath. Right, right, the Morning Breath, you came on like virtually, I remember you were like still in college with your friends. I was 20. Yeah, and you like zoomed in.

Yes, yes. And we were excited, that was during the first season. That was, was that the first season? I think so. Yeah, 2017. 2017, that was the year of the Breath. It, was that the first season? I think so. Yeah, 2017. 2017, that was the year of the breath. It's been so long. It's been so long, but then you also came on the toast,

pink backdrop with Kelsey, maybe some boys, but like I remember you and Kelsey. You guys used to do like reality stars a lot, right? Yeah, we used to do sometimes like an interview a day, like maybe like three to five interviews a week with like guests coming through. That like stopped during COVID when like people wouldn't come into studio anymore.

And then you could do like Zoom interviews, but like we don't. Was that like harder for you guys to do and now it's just like you're chilling. Like it's just kind of more fun this way. Maybe, yeah. We definitely like forced us to pivot, but like doing Zoom interviews was like really the worst. That was like a really low time.

And like, there's always a lag. And then I remember like I've done a bunch of them. My earrings always hit like my AirPods. It's just like awkward. It's like their audio or they can't hear us or they can't wear headphones. So we're echoing. It's just like a nightmare.

So then we were like, we'll only do in-person guests but it took a while for in-person guests to happen again. So Claudia and I just got used to like doing it ourselves. And we just kind of like beefed up the rest of the show. And it was just like, it all happened very naturally. So now we don't do a lot of guests, but now for Jax and friends, I get to invite my friends. How long is this going on for?

So this is the fifth week. She's like having her sweet time. She's just recovering. This is actually the last full week of Jax and friends. And this is our fifth week, which it's been so much fun. I have so many good guests this week, starting with you. We have so much to talk about because I need to catch up with you.

Juliette is also caught up on Love Island as am I. After fifth and final story will lead into the TV recap. We're gonna try and sit on our hands so we don't like, you know, just go off right now. But like so many thoughts. So many thoughts. No, the first thing I said when I walked in, I was like, are we talking about this?

Yeah. We need to. We'll wait, we'll wait. We'll wait. And the good news is I have so many questions for you that I'm also bursting with so I can wait on the violin. How are you doing? How's life post-Siesta? Life is good.

I actually wanted to tell you a story because I forgot about this when, I think it was 2018, I did come on the toast. And in classic Claudia fashion, she said something kind of like out of pocket. I think she said something about Kelsey's mom. And I was like, no, totally. It was like kind of catty, just like a little catty.

But it got back to the cast that me and Claudia were like talking about Kelsey's mom. Kelsey was pissed. Everyone was like, you're such a bitch. Like, why would you talk about her mom? That's her mom. And I was like- On the show, like live on the toast. It was like, you're such a bitch. Like, why would you talk about her mom? That's her mom. And I was like- On the show, like live on the toast.

It was like, you could watch it. On the toast. Okay. And it turned into like this huge fight on Siesta Key. But because it was like breaking the fourth wall, we had to spin it like I was mad at a boy. Like a boy did something to me. We were screaming at each other over the toast.

The toast, oh my gosh. Drama. The tea and the tea. That's so dramatic. It's hard, I I think in reality TV to try to keep the outside world out of your fights. I agree and I feel like now in reality TV, producers are just sort of embracing that.

Like we see that with Mormon wives where they talk about contract negotiations. I feel like even on Siesta Key, that like first season fight between Chloe and Amanda. Yeah, about the nose. About the nose. that was about what? They said it was about like Chipotle? Yeah, well, yes.

No, I think they were just wasted. Honestly, all the fights on CSQ, we were just blackout drunk, which I don't think happens on TV as much anymore. Am I wrong? I don't know. I feel like when I rewatch Laguna Beach, I realized like they're all just drunk and they're just like-

They're like 16, so they're drunk off two drinks. No, and everything's in red cups. But also, when we watched it growing up, I didn't realize that's what's in their cups. But now when I'm watching, I'm like, oh, you guys are just being drunk. I mean, I was illegally drinking the first three years of Siesta Key.

How old were you when you started Siesta Key? So we shot the pilot when I was 17, and then I went to college, and it didn't get picked up by MTV till I was 18 or 19. Okay. And then we filmed till I was 25. So like the entirety of my early 20s were on reality TV,

which is kind of crazy. That is really crazy. And you were in college for a lot of Siesta Key. Do you ever feel like dropping out cause you're like, I'm a big star. I thought about it for like a second. But that's so immature and stupid. No, I'm so glad that you did it.

And it really worked. They really worked on your filming schedule. They would film in the summer because summer in Siesta Key is like no other. Exactly. You get it. But it's hot. And it's really like there's a lot of other places

I would have thought of. In hindsight, it's like probably winter in Siesta Key. Is the best. Is the best. The summer, probably everyone leaves. Well, it's not as bad as like Miami. Especially I hang out with some of these people in C.S. Da Key is the best. Is the best, the summer probably everyone leaves. Exactly, well, it's not as bad as like Miami. Like, especially I hang out with like some of these people in Miami, they're gone all winter.

Like everyone's in the Hamptons right now. Yeah. Like that would have made more sense. Like summer in the Hamptons is like no other. Summer house. Yeah. You should be on summer house. That's what I do every day here.

I talk to people in convincing to go on summer house. I was just listening to the Tyler episode. You and Tyler should go on summer house. So my old producer on Siesta Key was the casting director last year for Summer House. I did a whole Summer House interview. Well, good. It took me like three hours.

They didn't go with me. I don't know why. Maybe they didn't like me or maybe I had already been in this world. And I think they went with Lexi instead. I don't know if that's how it worked, but. If she was like the choice over you and Bailey, but she didn't even make it through the season. So I think it's safe to say they made the wrong choice

and that I would like to nominate Juliet again. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm pretty good at reality TV. I feel like you'd be great on summer house and you want to get out of Florida for the summer. I think like even someone was saying like Jessie lives in Florida most of the year. He's my neighbor. Oh.

He lives literally next door to me. Have you guys ever dated? He's not my type. Don't tell him that he's gonna. Like on the inside or the outside? Both. I won't tell him. I don't really know him that well,

but he did, he like went on a date with my friend. I mean, it would have worked. Like I'm kind of friends with Paige. Like we have a lot of mutuals. I feel like Sierra and I went to the Dominican Republic together a few years ago. We went snorkeling. We got caught in a massive wave.

We had to hide under the benches. We were getting seasick. It was a whole thing. We could have brought it up. Yeah, it would have worked, but they kind of wanted me to live in New York. That's a thing. And I was like, fine.

I will move to New York. I was like, I'm down. Yeah, or at least for the summer and then go out on the weekends. Yeah. I feel like it's probably good you weren't cast last season because everyone who was cast is like fired and they're rejiggering the whole thing.

So like, I don't know, maybe your time will come. Yeah, I did end up doing a different show like a month after I got denied from Summer House, someone else called me to do another show. Like an alumni reality show. Yes, I don't know. I'm not assigned an NDA. But literally I'm telling you in several days,

I will be able to talk about this, but unfortunately, it should have came at the end of the week. I'm not gonna push you. I respect a binding legal agreement. Did you enjoy your time on that show? You know, gosh, it was, let me just tell you, it was different than Siesta Key, where I, especially towards the end of Siesta Key,

I did whatever I wanted. Like it was kind of, we got to create our own schedule as based off of our life, what was going on. This was not like that. Yeah, this was probably like all people together in a stitch. But it was definitely a good experience. Okay, good. Does it make you wanna do more

of that sort of reality television? I would love to do Traders. I wanna do something that's like thought-based, you know? Choose your mind, like a mind game, not a physical game. And I wanna go to Scotland. That sounds cool. And do you wanna do something that's like love-based, like The Bachelor?

I don't know. I feel like I have a hard time taking that stuff seriously. Yeah. Like I just don't know if people are in it for the right intentions. And I have, I've been single for like two years now. I think the longer you're single, your standards go up a lot, almost to a fault.

And I just like, I don't know if I want to be with a reality TV person, which is saying a lot because I'm a reality TV person. You know what I mean? I 100% wouldn't want to be the podcaster. Or like some, yeah. It's too close to home. It's too close to home.

And like you see how the sauce is made and like, no. Right, and I think that I don't wanna be with my personality type as much. I need an opposite. As you should be opposite to track. And you've dated reality stars from like being on T.S. DaKee, they were automatically, and then of course like Robbie.

I have trauma. Robbie. Oh my God, never forget. Oh my God, never forget. Oh my God, never forget. Oh my God, I was just talking about this the other day too. What were you saying? How do you look back on it? Okay, you know what's funny?

So when I started to get the ick from him, I mean, we dated for like two months, like nothing crazy. I started to get the ick and so I told him I was sick. I was like lying to him. I was like, I don't feel good, I don't feel good. So he sent me a care package full of medicine and tissues, and one of them was, he put little notes on each item, and one of them was vitamin C,

and it was like, because you're already getting that vitamin D, and it was just like, maybe some people would think that was cute. I don't think that's cute. It all sounded cute up until that note, that one note. Yeah, but even when you start to get the ick, there's no going back. I don't think that was cute. I don't think that's cute. It all sounded cute up until that note, that one note. But even when you start to get the ick, there's no going back.

No, and the more they do for you, the ickier it gets. The thing to do is to retreat a little bit. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Exactly, but in his defense, I told him I was sick. I was completely lying to him. Right, right, but that's crazy. You only dated two months and he came on the show. Is he from the Key?

Right, he had like a history with Alex. Yeah, he like lived in Sarasota. I don't even remember. It's been a long time. Yeah, I never forget. It's weird going back now. If Siesta Key has no fans, I'm dead. And if Julia Porter has no fans, I'm dead.

You were always my number one. Thank you. You know what I was thinking that I feel like you guys will voice your opinions about, who was it the other day? Like Ari, what's his name? Who's Ari? Arik.

Tarik. Tarik, Arik. Prince Arik. But I feel like I never ever got any heat, even when I did, cause I've done some bad things. No, the thing is it's like, we'll watch the show, whatever, and sometimes I just like have my favorites for whatever reason, like I just relate to someone

or I just love them, I'm rooting for them. And it's like, even if I don't agree with what they've just done, I want more, it's like a friend. I'm not gonna, you're no longer my friend because I just wanna see it done differently or I'm still rooting for you. I'm just, I don't jump around.

It's crazy how that happens though. I feel that way about people in Love Island right now. I'm like, I like you and nothing's gonna change and I just want the best for you or I don't like you and nothing's gonna make me like you. And then there are other people who I really can go back and forth on and they can make me like them sometimes but then you just have the people

that you just feel connected to. But you were also the narrator of the show. It was very much like you were the protagonist and we were seeing everything through Juliet's point of view and so even when you were on the outs of the show, like it was very much like you were the protagonist and like we were seeing everything like through Juliet's point of view. And so even when you were like on the outs with the girls or like you were going back to like Alex or whatever, and that's not what we wanted for you. Like, I don't know, you were just a sympathetic character.

Well, what I went through with Alex too, was just like so many girls go through these really toxic borderline like embarrassing relationships. Like to this day, I still have girls that are older than I was. And I'm like, what are you doing with him? At least I was 20. It's a really common thing. And I just, yeah, I realized it felt like

I wasn't doing anything of value. And I always struggled with that about reality TV. What am I offering the world? But I was offering someone that people could relate to and like they understood what I was going through and it's just your first love. Like they can do anything. You take them back, it's crazy.

No, that was really crazy. And then there was Sam. Yeah, then there was Sam. I was relating for Juliet and Sam. He, you know, he just wasn't for me. I wish him the best. That's good. He was, yeah, just honestly, like,

I feel like any relationship I've had in the past doesn't count. Because it wasn't like- It doesn't feel like anything. My last relationship ended when I was 25, 26. And that one was not on the show. A little bit. Okay.

But they just don't feel like they were real mature adult relationships. So, you know, I'm just like, now I'm at that point in my life where everything, it just doesn't seem like it was real back then. Like Sam didn't feel real to me. Yeah, it kind of maybe like feels like a college relationship where it's like-

Very surface level. Yeah, and like everything's set, it's very easy. Yeah, he liked that I was there. He didn't love me for me, I don't think. He would have said otherwise, but I'm like, it just doesn't, it feels like you love me being next to you and me being there for you. Yeah, it's like people with like two, like,

oh, we should date, so we shall. You're here. We're in the same room. We're in the same friend group. Yeah, like, you're so nice. Which of the girls are you still close with? So Chloe and I are still very close. Amanda and I are close, but I haven't lived in

Siesta Key, Sarasota, in a couple years. So I have like a whole new group of friends now, a whole new life. I started a podcast. You did? Yes, I love it. I love it's, at first I was nervous to start it. I was like, what am I gonna talk about?

For an hour every day. It's just so much fun. It's so much fun, I agree. I see clips from your show, you do it with your friend. Yeah, Sebastian, it's called Don't Be Ridiculous. It's very so much fun. It's so much fun. I love talking. I see clips from your show. You do it with your friend. Yeah, Sebastian. It's called Don't Be Ridiculous. It's very toasty. Oh.

Very giggly squad, very toasty. It's just so much fun. No, it's really so fun. I'm glad that now you're like a broadcasting pro. So today's gonna be a breeze for you. I love it. I also have my swim line still. JMP the label, everyone is,

like JMP the label is like so its own brand. Thank you. That it's like, I mean, it's literally the official swim suit of Sports Illustrated, yeah. Oh my God, thank you for bringing that up, Jackie. Yeah, we were on the cover last year on Hunter McGrady. That's insane. So cool, and we didn't know, like,

they don't tell us, we offer them suits, we give them like, I don't know, maybe 20 suits every year for either the show or their shoots, and we find out like the day of this year, another cover model, were it on the runway. And I was like there, and I was like, ah, freaking out. Which one?

Oh my God, oh, Lauren Chan. Oh, that is- I can't believe I just remembered that. I have a mortal memory. I guess just like everyone's wearing your swimsuits, which they really are. Yeah. And you also, you just did a collab with someone.

I did an Uncommon James. Yeah, that's what I saw. Yeah, which is, we going to do some more. And I love that. And it's like reality TV, Kristen, Juliet. Brilliant. But what's so crazy is like JMP is so successful. And I mean, the swimsuits, all the ones that I've worn,

I'm not really in my swimsuit era. But when you first drop them, there was a cut that was just made for me, which was really hard. Because I have needs. There's a lot of moms that listen. Yeah. A lot of mom toasters. You have supportive tops. Yes.

We have a bunch of different style, one pieces, highways. Like we just have something for everybody. Yeah. Like it's not one of those brands where you feel like you have to be like super put together or like a stick to wear like it's just, and I love that. No, I love it too. But it's so crazy.

Like JMP was born out of the swimsuit wars on. The swimsuit wars. The swimsuit wars on CS2K. Like you and Kelsey both starting swimsuit brands. And it was just like kind of drama for the show, but like. No, that was so real. Right.

Did at any point when I was watching, and I know I said this on the toast, like did you guys think about just doing one label? Like CS2Swim? So no. In hindsight, it's better that you didn think about just doing one label, like, CS to swim? So no. In hindsight, it's better that you didn't because like JMP has outlasted CS to Key. I mean, I think that you have to, 100%,

you have to very much be selective of who you work with. Like, I take a long time to start things because I had been thinking about doing a swimsuit line since basically the show started, but I have to do things right, because I won't quit. Once I start, like I'm not a quitter. So I've been doing this since,

I don't know, halfway through the show. And I have no plans of like just giving up on it, because it doesn't feel like it's right. Like it's something I want to really follow through with, and I love and I'm passionate about. So it seemed like it came out of drama, but it was like, no, this is something I'm gonna do. And like watch me do it. No, and just like the timing but it was like, no, this is something I'm gonna do. Yeah.

And like, watch me do it. No, and just like the timing of it was just like so crazy that you both started Swim Brands, like the same episode of the same season. I mean, the reality of what happened was, I was asking around, does anybody know anybody in the swimwear industry? And someone that worked on production knew someone

that actually had been manufacturing all of Frankie's and designing for Beach Bunny for years. Like one of, and she's my partner now, Jamie, she has been in the world for 30 years and it just so happened that like I was asking and they told me about her instead of Kelsey. And so it was like just a little, I get why she was upset. Like it could have been her

that they introduced my partner to. Got it. But it was me. They chose you. I had been asking and- She hadn't been asking. She might've been asking, but they all, they picked me. Okay.

And I think at the end of the day, like I know both of their personalities, it wouldn't have worked the other way. Got it. Interesting. Well, you've done really an amazing job with it. Thank you. Oh, I have a code for the toasters. Share it. Toast 15 for 15% off anything on the site. I actually need new swimsuits. So I'm

going to use that. I sent Claudia. This is maybe did she say Barts? Yes. When she went to the same Barts. I remember you sent her a box to my house. No, it was at my house. It got lost in my house. Okay. Don't worry. She had already left. I think. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it got lost in my house. Okay. Don't worry. She had already left, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like too late. That's why it got lost in my house because then it was gone. Okay, I'm gonna make a card. Maybe I'll send it to you for freebie.

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So you can get turdys and my favorite. Okay, great. Well, let's get into the stories because we have a lot to talk about. And we've dilly ddallied long enough. And I feel like I've found out all my CS key T that I need to know. Our first story is a little Haley and Justin news, a little drama that is starting to feel more real than just like the rumors. So Haley stepped out without her ring, which I step out without my ring every day of my life.

She doesn't. And now like there are these rumors, like divorce is looming. There's a lot of like trouble in paradise. And I feel like she, you know, did the classic paparazzi walk out of the car pictures with her hand in sight. And she's like clearly not wearing her ring when she does always wear it. I mean, it could mean nothing.

It could mean nothing. I'm pretty anti-Justin right now. Because of Vogue? I don't like a Vogue. Oh, well, of course. Of course. That and all the other things that he's done. I mean, everything he posts, he's still consistently posting

just like crazy stuff. Yeah. Embarrassing for her. Very embarrassing. He also posted something about getting the silent treatment, like after this wedding ring thing. But like they could be isolated incidents, you know?

So I try not to like read into stuff too much. And with standing on business is like, oh yeah. Well, I mean, that went well for him at least. And I understand his frustration with the paparazzi. Like he's not doing anything. He's obviously just wants to be left alone and they won't leave him alone. But when it comes to their marriage, I just like, I don't see how they're in like a happy, like a happy marriage at the moment.

She can't be okay with his constant outbursts. And she's acting like she is and I feel for her because she knows that saying anything is gonna add fuel to the fire, but that's all he's doing. He's just creating all this drama and she's trying to put it out by not saying anything, but it just kind of makes her look like, I don't know, weak?

I don't know. Yeah, but I do think it takes strength to ride it out. Obviously, someone's being that way, you just wanna run away, but they have a child together. I think she really does love him. And I don't know, on the one hand, I go back and forth and I always say,

on the one hand, it's like, how are these two still married? They're definitely not like- I mean, I imagine she's like, Justin, can you please stop? And he's like, Haley, this is how I am. This is who I am. I'm not gonna pretend to be someone I'm not.

Right. She's just like, okay. Or maybe he's just going through it at the moment. And so she's- Letting him. Letting him, and maybe she's traveling and just kind of ignoring him. That's the strategy. I mean, she just sold road.

I know, well, that gives her a lot of power to like do what she actually wants to do. Yeah, does she own 100% of road? No, so apparently she has investors and like people were breaking it down and of course trying to like minimize and so I think maybe she walks away with like $200 million but like.

I know when everyone said that, cause I know about this enough to know that there's no way she, guys, she did not walk away with a billion dollars in her pocket. That's not how things work. But 200 million, I think that's enough for her minimum. For sure, I think she's happy with that. And she'll continue to work still.

She'll continue to work and I love what she's doing. I mean, she's an icon. But I just feel, yeah, this is like tough for her and I wonder how long he's gonna continue to, you know, do this. I know. It's like, it's a cry for help and he needs help. I don't know if he would accept it.

And it's just like unfortunate that we have to watch it all unfold and like it's public for her, because I'm rooting for her. I know. I'm rooting for both of them. I love him. I love like, I just, I feel like he's been through so much.

Like I want the best for him, but it just doesn't seem like he even wants to help himself. Yeah. He doesn't see, it doesn't seem like he thinks anything is wrong with his behavior. Yeah. And that's the biggest problem. Yeah, I agree.

Are you watching the Valley? I am not. Is that Vanderpump? That's Vanderpump alum. I just got caught up this weekend and I don't know, some of it just reminds me of like Brittany and Jack. I knew you were gonna say that.

Yeah. Cause I know he just came out, he's a coke addict. Yes amongst. And they're divorced, right? They are divorced, it will be finalized on July 21st. As he said, I'm watching what happens live. I watched that episode too. Sad, but it's time.

When they first announced their divorce, I was like, no, like make it work. Even though he's obviously problematic and he always has been, it's like, but you've loved him for 10 years, like love him. And then of course, when people start to separate, everything comes out and it's like, oh, run, run. I never wanna be in that position. Like I'm very picky about who I'm gonna be with now

because I never wanna be, like I never want any dirty laundry aired like that. Like no matter how mad you get at a partner, like you have a kid. Yeah, no, that definitely changes things. The two of them have obviously decided to like sort of bypass that in the name of their careers in reality television, which like I think is what's required.

I agree, that's fair. You know what I mean? I wouldn't tell a friend to do it. You can't hide anything, yeah. I think what they get out from the show, it's like, okay, well this and this money and this, this is worth it and we'll just sort of. As long as they have an understanding,

I totally get that. I think that they do. That's the vibe that I get, where it's like, we're all in. I think for some couples, you kind of have to be, if you want to be on reality, you want to be good at it, like you kind of, you have to bear it all. Even if like that means like exposing your family or kids, like I wouldn't do it. It's not for me.

But like proud of Jack's, the fact that he opened up about all of that is like, a lot of people would never do that. Yeah, but he's always sort of that. I don't know. I'm on the fence about his recovery, like that he's, his sobriety is good, but like, I feel like he always like,

admits like, oh, that was really bad. I shouldn't have done that. And then like literally goes and does it again the next day. It's like that was really, like it's just groundhog's day. No, he's, yeah. And for like 10 years, he's been doing the same thing over and over. Yeah, so I would be curious to hear from Brittany,

like in real time, how he is treating her in the divorce. Like if he's being amicable and like giving her the things that she wants and like just being reasonable, then like that, and that's what he should be doing. Like I would like to hear that. If he's being very difficult and making things hard for her, I don't like that.

But there was all this stuff with like their mortgage that he wasn't paying their mortgage. It was crazy. Their mortgage was $14,000 a month, which is so high, especially cause they bought their houses like pre-COVID, like low interest rates. But apparently had a million dollars in taxes that he owed. So he had to like take a lien out on the house. Their mortgage was originally like $8,000.

And then he had to like, I don't know, take out money against it. So it went up to like 14,000 and 17,000. And then he didn't pay the mortgage for months. And he was the only one living in the house. She had no doubt We know that much about their financial situation is so sad. No, I know not that you not you know, you know mortgage payment I need to know and then I need when they said their mortgage was fourteen thousand dollars a month I'm like literally how like I don't own anything by the way I went to their houses like when it was two percent more interest rates. So like I don't own anything by the way When it was two percent more interest rates, so like

I don't even know how that must be a really expensive house or they put no money down Is that how this works both? But and actually no, I think the house was probably like two or three million dollars So you would think okay, they put no money down, but still that like doesn't add up But then it turned out he owed a million dollars in taxes So he had to like take out money against his house and their rate went up. Right, right, right.

Okay, that makes sense. And I needed to know that in order to be mad at him enough to understand why she's leaving. Because at the end of the day, that's the biggest thing is you have to take care of your family. Yeah. Yeah.

And he's causing issues. So like then she left the house with the kid, got a rental, was like paying for the rental until he's in the house alone, like obviously he should be paying for the mortgage. He always paid the mortgage and she paid the bills. And then he stops paying the mortgage and she doesn't find out until like five, six months later.

And it's like, well, the house is gonna go into foreclosure and she'll never be able to buy a house again. Oh my gosh. Like credit score is gonna be, yeah. Right, like that's psychotic behavior. So do we need to get Jax a brand deal? Like, no, he's not brand safe. Jax, he needs to pay his mortgage.

But where did all his money go? Coke. Is that real, like millions of dollars? I don't know. I don't know, he's not like a rock star. Like I can't imagine like how much drugs he was, what was he doing, other drugs? Like other things?

He was cheating, maybe not on her. Did he cheat on her? I think he did cheat on her in their marriage. I don't think he was paying, I think it was free. Right. I was thinking more like trip to Vegas, oops I dropped 10K at the strip club. Millions of dollars.

Yeah, people are dumb. Yeah. The guy from Jersey Shore. Situation. Well yeah, he didn't pay. Didn't no one tell you. Well I'm like- Who else? The guy from Jersey Shore. Situation. Well, yeah, he- Didn't no one tell you- Well, I mean, that's just the thing.

You have to pay taxes. So like when you started making money, like outside of traditional work, so like from the show and from brand deals, like what did you do financially? Like, did you hire someone? So I overpaid, I'm super afraid of prison. I'm gonna overpay her.

I overpaid by $50,000. And then I got a new accountant, and she's like, you really overpaid. I'm so afraid of breaking the law. So I always pay my taxes. Like everything. I don't pay my tickets though. I wait, I pay them all at one time at the end of the year,

which is probably irresponsible. Why? You have like logging onto the portal is such a pain in the butt. I rather go in person. I live next to like city hall in Miami Beach. I just walk in. It's like 200 bucks a year.

I'm like here. That is really funny. Yeah, no, I get a lot of like mails from like the toll. I'm like, I don't even drive on the highway. I have my car. My car was stolen. Wait, what? No, I'm kidding. Like someone else is driving my car. Like I literally't even drive on the highway. I have my car. My car was stolen. Wait, what? No, I'm kidding.

Like someone else's driving my car. Like I literally don't drive on the highway. No, they're everywhere. They're like hidden. There's a bridge called Venetian on the beach. It's $5. I don't have an easy path, a sun pass. Oh, neither do I.

Really? Yeah, and I have lived here my whole life. No, like do you ever like go home, like cross state? I go home and it's, I think it's $4 to cross Alligator Alley, which is over the Everglades. I know Alligator Alley. Oh yeah, you know now. I've been.

Yeah, we went to- Naples. Estero. Yeah, that's Naples. We went to see Rascal Flatts, best night ever. Oh my god, cute, how was it? It was amazing, I'm obsessed with them. I actually had a dream, maybe it was last night,

or the night before that Rascal Flatts were doing a show near me. And I was like just- They have a lot of concerts here. Yeah, they do. Like in, you mean South, like yeah. There's a lot of good shows. Rascal Flatts like needs to tour more,

like get back to work, get back in the studio. But I'm glad that I was able to see them in Estero. I'm seeing Coldplay. I'm so excited, July 26th at the Hard Rock. I, so I was, I love Coldplay. I was like excited, July 26th at the Hard Rock. So I love Coldplay. I was scrolling, refreshing. I was like, do I fly to Auckland, New Zealand, to go to Coldplay, because they never do shows.

And as I'm refreshing, I see that Miami pops up. And I was like, is this a lie? Am I high right now? Because I just saw it wasn't there. It was there. It immediately popped up. I bought seven tickets right there on the spot. That's so exciting.

So now we're all going. we're getting a party bus. I'm so excited. Who are you going with? All my girls, all my friends, my brother, his wife. Your friends from home? Miami. Oh right, your new friends. You said you have all new friends.

The other ones can kick rocks. Oh no. But you're still friends with your OG girls like Hannah. No, of course, I just, yes. And the cousin, Lexi. Lexi lives down the street, by the way. Her house is right over there, her apartment. Oh my god, that is so funny.

No, I'm totally still friends with them. I just don't see them. It's different. I'm just like, whatever losers. You're not to me. Yeah, no, you're not with my new influencer friends. Yeah, sorry. Bye bye.

Our next story is some beauty news, and usually a haircut doesn't make news. However, Sofia Richie has debuted her dramatic French bob hair transformation for summer and I think everyone's getting ideas She's just perfect. She can do no wrong. No, she is so perfect. I love this haircut in general I'm always pro people cutting their hair I think it always just like elevates them and like just enters a new era of your life and she's already in that era So like now the hair matches. It fits her so well. And I know like people out there

are now feeling tempted to do it. And I know, I know like other people are cautioning you not to do it, but I'm always gonna say like, do it. I wanna see more girls with this haircut. I think it works for her because she's just so elegant. Like she gives Princess Diana, just this like rich mom mom, European summer.

She's just perfect. Yeah, she really is. She's gorgeous and it really works for her. I think it will look good on a lot of girls. I just do think it's kind of mature. I mean, how old is she? It is mature. She's young, she's younger than me,

which makes me feel a certain type of way. She's 26. Okay, so younger than me. No, but she's just, it works so well. I do think the girlie should do it. I just, I caution you. Once you do it, it takes a minute to go back. Yes, and also like, if you wanna walk the walk,

you have to talk the talk too. Like we, it's a whole vibe. Like you have to take on the whole, you can't just like be out there with like the booty cheeks hanging out of your shorts. You have to constantly have your hair done too and wear the elegant outfit. Yeah, no, you have to go all the way.

It's not gonna look good with. Right, you need to wear something like this. You look so cute. I could do a bob. I will tell you to do it. I won't though, because I just feel like, I really do believe that I need, it's more like a marriage haircut.

Yeah, no. Is that fair to say? It is, I used to have a bob, and I think it really ushered me into a more mature era of my life, and forced me to, I don't know, it just changed my vibe in a good way, and then it's been growing out,

and I always say when I'm in full mom, done having, I wouldn't wanna be pregnant with a bob and just have a lot going on, but in the next phase of my life, I'm going back, PTA mom with a bob. Love that for you. Like that's where you'll catch me, but it will be a while.

You're not a PTA mom yet. No, no, no. I'm still like- How old is your oldest? Three. Oh, you're fine. Like I'm just a toddler mom. I need my hair. Yeah, you need your hair still.

You're not right. I feel like, yeah, once you are like really working and picking up like five kids a day. Yeah, like soccer and like all this. Yeah, that's the vibe. But like right now I need to be able to put my hair in a messy bun. Like I'm in the messy bun phase.

I love that for you. Yeah. I see it. So if you're thinking about cutting your hair, this is your sign to do it, okay? Julia's gonna say no and I'm gonna say yes. But if you do it, like make sure you go to a great hairdresser.

That's true. Yeah, you need like those like flowy layers. I mean, who did her hair? Oh, I think it was Chris McMillan. Of course. Yes. And Jake Shane's like always in the background. Yes, Jake Shane.

How did they? They've been friends, like he used to work for her husband, like in his corporate role, like before he, when he started like his social media, he was, or her assistant, like he works for one of them. Oh, so that's like a fair, it wasn't just like, oh, you're famous, I'm famous. No, like he was friends with them before he got famous.

I love that. I love that type of story. Cause it doesn't feel like someone's latching on to the other. No, they're like real friends. Love that. I love that too. Yeah, that's cute.

Also, you know, I'm going to try and convince my sister Margo to do this haircut. She's my guinea pig. Yeah. I love Margo. How's she doing? She's good. She's so cute. She's in New York. She's in New York. You love Margot. How's she doing? She's good.

She's so cute. Is she in New York? She's in New York. You and her should go on Summer House together. We, oh my God, she should so do Summer House. I mean, I think when she was on the toast, we were talking about it. People always say that about her.

She would never do it. She's not cut out for reality TV, you know? Summer House looks easy. Yeah. My show was way harder than it seems like Summer House was. People were getting like pregnant. I was getting fights. Summerhouse is tame, it's like Paige yelling at Kyle

over an investment of a fricking Craig. It's not that bad. And it feels like it's detached from their real lives. They're too old. You go out there and you do stuff for the Summerhouse and then you come back and have your actual life. Your CST key was your actual life, your actual boyfriends and friendships.

I think it really has to do with the age too. They're able to separate and be mature about certain things and put on a show, I think. Whereas I was just so out of touch with that world because I was so young in a small town that it just everything blended together to just make this perfect mixture of chaos. Yeah, and not know how to like compartmentalize.

Like 100%, I was like, I'm gonna be this way. People would make up a lie and I would believe it. Yeah, I'm gonna be this way like on the show and then like I know what I, but like you were just so in it, which makes for a good TV. But then you're seeing people like ripped apart

and it's like, well, that's not good for you. Which is what we're seeing with these shows where these people like Love Island again, it's like they, I don't think they're able to differentiate what is like for TV and what's not, because especially they're in like this bubble. Yeah, and I think also like the game element of the show has really been played up this season

less so than the love, and so you really need to be like hard-headed, like where you have to, where you need to fall in love to be on the show, but you need to also be able to separate, I don't care about these people, I don't care about these friends, because you're voting them off every other day. It's a nearly impossible task.

Yeah, it's like traitors these days. It really is. It looks so hard to be on Love Island, like I couldn't do it. But I do think for them, at least the payoff is serious, because they'll come off the show and they'll have a completely new life. Look at Jaylen.

I'm so happy for Jaylen. Oh my God. I was saying last night, I was talking to Claudia. I was like, I need someone to get a word to the Islanders about like the fact that Jaylen has 1.4 million to have 10 followers. So that's my favorite thing about, and it's the worst thing about Love Island.

They have no idea that they are trending audio, the mama Sita thing. They have no, Huda has no idea. She thinks, apparently America does love her, but like she thinks they just have no concept of what's going on out here. No, but like I think the biggest shock to them of everything that's happened while they were in the villa

is that Jalen, two day stint, Jalen has 1.4 million followers. Insane. I'm obsessed. I'm so happy for him. I hope that it lasts. I hope, the only problem I see with this is that he doesn't actually know how to make like content yet.. I hope that it lasts. I hope that the only problem I see with this is that he doesn't actually know how to make content yet. So I hope that he does.

I hope he hires someone. Or just like, yeah, really puts in the work there so that people stick with him. And he, especially if he wants to be a travel influencer, I wanna see that. Let's make that content. But we have to give him grace as he navigates this new chapter.

Of course. I'm so, and the picture with his grandma. No, I'm obsessed. But yeah, and the one he needs to hire someone so that like he can just stay, being Jaylen. We need to send him like PR boxes. You need to send him JMP swim. I should.

Do you do men's? I do. I wanna have like everyone sending him everything. I want stuff for his grandma. Do they wear your suits on the show at all? Like to have any of the girls wear them? I did. Not on Love Island, but Temptation Island,

I gifted everybody, pretty much everybody in like the first episode wore my suits. Oh, cute. Which that show ended up being, like I haven't seen it, but it was crazy. Tyler C was just saying that he watched it. Apparently it's really good, but I have a hard time watching

like really, really raunchy things. Love Island is painful in that sense, only during the challenges, cause that's the only time they get sexy and the rest of the time they're like nuns in there. Exactly. No, they won't kiss their actual match and then they have to all make out.

No, and when someone likes someone, they're like a kiss on the cheek and then they go into the challenge where they're, seriously, someone is about to give a blowjob at a challenge. We were saying, is that okay, so cause I know for a fact like, well, I don't know about Love Island,

but I know on other things that I've done, there's like HIPAA. So they can't make you take a test for any of these like STDs. But I imagine I would be worried, like I don't have oral herpes. I'm lucky, a lot of people have it. I've never had a cold sore. I have no plans on getting one.

I don't wanna be making out with 12 people. I assume that they've all been tested, even though for the past few weeks, it does look like a cold sore is being passed around, Villa. It's bad. They might. They have to be.

But then what? Then what do you do? She can't kiss, she has to sit out the challenge. She can't be on the show. If you have an active herpy. I mean, I agree, but I don't think that's how it works. I'm sorry. I agree. And then you do these challenges where literally,

like at every step, you have to kiss the person. You can't force people. I don't wanna kiss a lot. I'm not really attracted to anyone on Love violin. What would I do about that? No, it's so weird. And then they think that like in these challenges, like we're going to see if there's chemistry, like while I make out with four different people

and act like it's the best thing I've ever done. And you're just all slopping. No, it's actually, it's not watchable. That milk challenge. Was disgusting. Was so disgusting. Like I get queasy easily. I'm a pregnant woman.

Like this isn't offensive to me. Yeah, I feel bad for Paige. I can't imagine, because I think a lot of people don't realize like these shows take hours to film. Yeah. Like they're sitting there and there's no music. There's, they're not really drinking. They're just sitting there all day long.

They're not allowed probably. They get one sitting there all day long. They're not allowed probably. They get one glass of wine at night in those cups. I see, I need at least three. Yeah. Because I get so bored. And if you're just, there's no phones, there's no TV. You're just sitting there talking to each other every single day, all night, all day.

I would be just so bored. Yeah, okay, we're gonna get to Love Island. We are, I promise, we're almost there. Our next story is actually some really sweet love news. Billy Ray Cyrus and his girlfriend Elizabeth Hurley have a romantic date night in London to support Miley's new film. So Miley's new film is her album film,

Something Beautiful, don't get excited, the last song's sequel is not out. Oh my God. I wish. Billy Ray and Elizabeth Hurley went out to support Miley's new film, Something Beautiful. They stepped out together, like seriously looking like a legit couple.

Now he looks scary as ever, but that's not stopping her from like, she's being like Queenie Elizabeth Hurley. Why do I think he looks kind of good? Why do you think he looks kind of good? Did he lose weight? He looks really scary. He's he looks kind of good? Did he lose weight? He looks really scary. He's giving Jesus kind of.

His shirt is the scariest part, I would say. That's a horrible outfit. Who is she? Elizabeth Hurley, British actress. I don't know her. You definitely do. She's like a class. She was in- We'll name a movie.

I mean, Bedazzled with Brendan Fraser comes to mind, but like, I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't seen that. I haven't. I've seen George of the Jungle. Did you ever watch the Royals on E! News? On E! News? I didn't. She's from Austin Powers. Okay.

She's like the, she's from Gossip Girl, she was hooking up with Nate. I seem to have missed everything she's been in. Oh my God, you're missing out. Well, so we're happy for them. I thought Miley didn't like this. No, Miley likes this. And I do think she's been like a-

She does? Yeah, I think she's reconciling with her dad. And I think Lizzie has been a force for good in his life because like he slowly getting back together with his family. Like I think he was spiraling and she sort of stabilized him and like made him more palatable to the rest of his family. So it's like a really good thing.

Why Elizabeth Hurley is like attracted to him in this era of his life, I will never know. Yeah, dating a man coming from like a broken family must be like a little tough, especially Miley Cyrus' father. Yeah, no, and like there's so many different aspects. There's like 10 kids. There's like three, right?

There's five? I think there's five. Trace, the brother is like going off on Instagram. He's going off. I can't even go there, but like then Miley and Noah have their own beef, then the mom and then- They do?

Yeah, because- We love Noah. There was like another weird drama where the mom got remarried. Okay. And like- Noah didn't like this, right? Noah apparently like dated that guy.

Oh my God, well fair. That's really fair. It's my mother. But the thing is everyone sided with Tish. So like, I don't feel like that's exactly what happened given what we do know. Why did they side with Tish? Cause Miley did?

No, I think because Tish probably didn't do it. I think Noah probably did more wrong than Tish. Like I don't know if Noah actually dated, like. We need to get to the bottom of this. But it's weird. That's really weird. I don't like to talk about it because like. You don't know for sure what happened.

No, because it's like disturbing. Oh yeah. I just want to like think about the Cyrus family being happy. Yeah. And just like push that away. Miley, Miley seems really good to me. She seems stable. I love her.

I've never loved her more. I agree. I've never loved her more. She just seems so confident and secure in herself and I love her. I just, I want the best for her. I completely agree. And so ultimately Elizabeth Hurley being with her father

is best for Miley. Look, cause he's like coming to the premiere. If he's happy. And he's supporting her. And I think she's bringing up like the average of the family. Even though it's obviously very high. I think it's good.

I think it's good. It's shocking. It's shocking, but you know what? Everybody has a crazy family. Maybe not that crazy, but we prevail. Yeah. Our next story is a bit of great music news as well because Tom Sandoval has

auditioned for America's Got Talent with his band, Tom Sandoval and the Most Extras. So Tom is the name. Yeah, that's the name of his band, Tom and the Most Extras. That's a very good name for that. Yeah. No, he nailed it with the extra. And they were sort of like the butt of the joke on the last few seasons of Vanderpump Rules. He spent all his money like paying his band members

and getting studio time. And then he went out on tour, right? As Scandalf all happened. And I think the only people who were really going to his show were like going there to heckle him, which is also like not great. Like stay, like stay home. I kind of feel for him in that sense.

I'm starting to like feel for him a little bit just cause like so much time has passed. And I guess someone at America's Got Talent has a sense of humor because they invited him and his band to audition and They're a cover band like they're really like a Almost like a wedding cover band like whatever. Yeah, I don't watch a lot of America's Got Talent So I don't know if a lot of like mid-level talented people audition just like for shits and giggles Um, I think this is a rare occurrence. It is so odd that they audition. This is for deuce, is what I think.

When I watch clips from America's Got Talent, it's like some of the most talented people I've ever seen. And random, from like a different part of the world or like a small, and it's like a really cool talent. Someone singing someone else's song like with a 15-piece band. That's my thing about the band. There's like 10 of them.

No and he pays them all. That's really sweet honestly. If like they're not making any money but he wants to keep the band together squeeze out of his band or pump money paying them is like really sad. No it's it's sad and at this point like I hope that they have I'm like I'm happy for them that they went on America's Got Talent. I don't even want to like talk shit. Cause it's like. No, I'm happy for them. I agree. I think like, I don't like him every time he opens his mouth. I'm upset.

No, but I do feel like we need to move on and Ariana. I love her. I'm so team Ariana. Like she's so moved on. She's, she's making way more money than him. She won by a landslide. Let's give him like a give him a little less hate, I guess. I think people liked him from Traders.

He was on last season. Did you watch? I watched a little bit of it. I was there for Dylan Efron and Sierra. I wasn't there for it. Didn't you get out pretty early, though? I didn't watch. And he was on Special Forces with Tyler C.

That's right. Would you ever do Special Forces? You know I feel like I would really fail. Based on what Tyler said and I feel like it was hard for him and he's like a grown big strong man, I don't think you should do it. I like to think that I can do stuff like that. You're very fit. I am but I'm not. You were doing Barry's, you're the queen of bar. I know but I think that I I crumble under pressure. Are you mentally tough? I am, but then, I don't know.

I just, every time I think I'm gonna win in these types of games or events, I don't win. Interesting. I did a show similar to this and I didn't win anything. The one that you did? Yes. With challenges and stuff? Yes, didn't win a single one.

Interesting. I think when the moment comes and you're like in that position, like things get a lot harder than you think they would be. Yeah, no, he said it was like so extreme. It wasn't like fake Hollywood. What were some of his challenges that he had to do?

Oh, I don't know. He was talking about being in some like icy thing. See, I don't know. Why would I wanna, it depends on how much money I'm getting. And I do wanna see if I could. Yeah. Like the mental, and how you would come out the other side.

Yeah, like would that make me stronger? Like being able to say that I accomplished some of that stuff would be awesome. But like, why would I put myself through like a cold plunge or like go to like live in the ice? Like, why would I do that? I don't know, that's what I was saying to him. I was like, when you're in those things,

are you like regretting signing up for the show? Cause I would seriously run. I mean, part of me like always wanted to be in the army. Like I have like all these like random jobs I like wish I did just to see if I could. Okay, so then you should go on special forces. Just to scratch that itch. Just, you're right.

It's just like one of those little things about me. I'm like, what if I was a pilot? Like I think about that stuff a lot. You should do it. It could also be a good place to meet someone. I know you don't want I was a pilot? Like I think about that stuff a lot. You should do it. It could also be a good place to meet someone. I know you don't want to date a reality star, but I think like the guys who would go on special forces would be like strong and tough.

Well don't they have like real army people? Like I would date an officer. That would be hot. I ship. Yeah. I like that. Can you like put me in my place? You guys, if any special forces casting directors are watching, even though I'm sure you have teams of people who could just sign you up.

I love this. I love this, like this could be a thing. I want to try to do traitors though. Like that I find more interesting and fun. Yeah, and like easy compared to special forces. But I love a mind game, like that sounds like a fun game. But I don't think I could lie. I'm a really bad liar.

Did you ever think about, because you, C.S. DaKee was on MTV, did you ever think about, cause you, Siesta Key was on MTV, did you ever think about doing the challenge or like X on the beach? They never asked me, which I thought was strange. That's strange. Yeah. Did anyone from Siesta Key do those shows?

No, I feel like they, I talked a lot of shit about MTV though. I don't know if that has to do with it. I don't know, I feel like everybody who's on MTV like talk shit about, that's just like- I mean, it's a dying network. Well damn. Well damn.

I feel like that's just a part of me, like Kristen also like talks a lot of shit. I mean, one example was like, they would never invite us to the VMAs, which is just like, that should be our one reward. Right. Obviously we got paid, but like, that was just something that I'm like,

so you're not even, you won't even invite us. Why? Because they had no money. But I feel like I've seen you at the VMAs. What? I feel like I've seen you at the VMAs. They had to like, I went, okay, it was the first year,

2017, before our show even aired, they flew us all out, it was this whole thing, and then I think the merger happened with Viacom, who owns MTV, and I just think, I don't know, it must have been a money thing. It was never like personal, but yeah. I just thought that like- But the other shows would go.

Then they would invite like, yes. They would invite people from other networks. Like Vanderpump would go or like, it was just odd to me. That is odd. And that always rubbed me wrong. That's surprising. Yeah. Hmm, we gotta get you to the VMAs.

I can't help you with that. It's okay, I don't need to go. You're over it. I wanna go to like the Oscars or something. Take me somewhere really cool. I wanna wear like a nice fancy dress. What about like, do you ever do people's choice? No.

You weren't like people's choice reality star? I don't think we were quite big enough. I understand. Who won that award? Like it's always the Kardashian. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's always the Kardashian. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think I'm in that category. Okay, fine.

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Oh, okay, so me, thanks the sun for voicing how I feel. Yes, for sure. Wow, that was so accurate. So accurate, for sure the votes were not accurate. Like I think some people who are most popular got to stay. Of course, why are they gonna kick off the most popular? But for example, Huda is not like- That can't have been right.

But the more I think about it, like the more producers are not letting Huda go. Like she has saved their season. This season has really been God awful except for the Huda and Jeremiah saga, which was just like so shocking and such a whirlwind that it really captivated people. But as far as connections or really meeting great people from the show, it's not amazing.

She's kind of saved their season and I don't think they're gonna send her home. This would have been her third time in the bottom three and I think the girls would have, actually they don't know how to vote, so they probably wouldn't have voted her home because that would have been the correct choice. But I don't think producers were gonna leave it up to chance because they need her. Plus knowing that the next day is Casa Amor, she will thrive in Casa Amor.

We'll get to see her from like, from the zero to like, you know, she gets five guys to choose between. Like that will be entertaining television and they were not going to give that up. So I can almost like understand why they saved her, but I know like for sure the votes were rigged in that sense. The way that these Islanders are voting for the people that they have to dump

from the Island, like they need to lose their voting rights because they, what are they doing? I have a lot of thoughts on this. The guys are jealous of Jeremiah. Oh, for sure. And I think Ace is a snake. I was anti-Ace, cause I just think he's like faking things with Shelly. And I'm like so bored by them.

Yeah. It's supposed to be, I think they wanted to create this like story of adversity where like they didn't, we weren't with each other and now they're together and they think they're gonna go all the way and then win. But I do think like some of the fans are falling for it, which if that's the case, then like, and those are your winners, great. Like, but I just think they're together and they think they're gonna go all the way and then win. But I do think like some of the fans are falling for it, which if that's the case and like,

and those are your winners, great. Like, but I just think they're- I mean, anybody on TikTok knows that they've like known each other. Right, that's the like, the thing coming out about them. And they said that they knew each other, they met outside a club, but now there's like other stuff that he was,

she was like his Valentine and they like came on the show to win and they've just been sort of, even if that would honestly- But how would the producers not know that? I don't know. Because out of every person that they cast, they happen to cast two people that know each other. That's like crazy.

I really feel like they cast it a lot from Instagram, like more than ever. Like I feel like everybody who's on the show already has a platform. And like they're all content creators, which is fine. But I think when you're all content creators, like you know your fellow people are like. Especially if it's Los Angeles or wherever they're from.

If you see them on the explore page, whatever. So I don't think that's so, so crazy. Plus Love Island is a huge cast. Probably by the end of the show, they go through 30 or 40 people. Of 23 year olds with semi-decent Instagram followings who are incredibly beautiful, it's possible. I just think Ace and Shelly are so boring and I'm not seeing like any chemistry between them.

So whatever show they think they're putting on is like not happening for me. And I was like really against him, except when he was the one like really bringing Huda and Jeremiah to task and like not letting it go. And I was like, okay, I'm with you. But now he, it's a thing he has against Jeremiah because Jeremiah is doing exactly what he should be doing.

Thank you. Like he got out of his relationship with Huda, which everyone said was toxic. It was too much too soon. And it got like so dramatic and nasty and he made the mature choice and he chose Iris, even though he's like not into her romantically. He just wants to close the chapter on Huda.

Right. Did the right thing there. Then he starts earnestly trying to find connections. His dream girl walks into the villa. Thankfully she likes him too. And the way he's talking to her and going about and moving in the villa. Is exactly what he's supposed to do. It's like what a guy who's looking for a relationship should do. He seems like,

he doesn't have good friendships with the other guys except for Austin. And that's why I think they voted him off. But also like him kissing Andrina in front of everyone, like put a target on his back because if they didn't, they all want to hook up with her. So if they get rid of him, they have a chance. Like Nick, a hundred percent. Nick, I got that, but like Ace, like they're not all going to get her. No, but they, they're jealous of him.

And if he's there, they're locked in. But if he's not there, then she has to talk to the rest of them. That's exactly what I was thinking. They're jealous. Yeah. So I think that the boys voted for him to go cause they're incredibly stupid. And you just broke up two real couples.

And this is Love Island, isn't Traitors. If they're not here to form relationships, if they're gonna be penalized for that, then what's the point? We need to go back to regular eliminations. We haven't had just a dumping, a normal one since Bella, where people, you get dumped if nobody likes you. If you don't have a couple, it should have been Amaya

and maybe Pepe. Austin. Austin. Austin and Amaya. Austin and Amaya were the correct choice. If anything, if the producers really want the villagers, the villas to dump the cat, the girls should have voted which boy should go home

and the boy should have voted which girl should go home. You're so right. Cause the girls would have been like, none of us like Austin and he's been here a while and none of us are going to, and it's time for him to go. And like Hannah would have stuck up for Pepe. I don't know what- They might have voted Jeremiah off

because I do think Huda was the leading voice in the girls discussion, but they would have had a chance. And then the boys would have of course sent Amaya home because they know that Iris and Hannah are into other guys and they all have spoken to Amaya and none of us like her in that way. None of us are going to, so like it's her time to go. Because Austin and Amaya are the ones that we should have gotten home, sorry.

And now we're going into Casa Amor and we don't have that many solid couples. So why is this interesting to me? To watch more people flirt. Exactly, Jeremiah would have been, first of all, he's the most beautiful by a landslide. I liked watching my screen. I liked what was forming between him and Andrea, Andrina.

Uh-huh, Andrina. I liked that. I feel like there would have been a girl in there for sure. I bet several girls would have went after him. I feel like Ace too. Like, I just feel like, I don't know why. I also think it's kind of messed up that they let America vote,

they tell these people that America doesn't like them essentially. I feel like that's so mean. Well, they do and they don't, they leave it like ambiguous because like the girls in the bottom three. Like I feel like Iris shouldn't have a chip on her shoulder because she just got there.

We haven't gotten a chance to get to know her. America threw her into the lion's den by putting her in a relationship with Jeremiah. And it really would not have been fair if she got sent home, because that way she never had a shot. But look at Jaylen, never had a shot and got sent home, so I wouldn't put it past them.

I was honestly really glad that it wasn't Iris, because now she has something going with TJ. I think they're so cute. And she deserves, like she's put, she's handled herself correctly in every situation. Like she deserves to have a good time now. So thankfully, I think I would have been most upset if Iris went home.

Like I'm really rooting for her. And Hannah, I really, I like Hannah, but ever since what she did to my Charlie, like, I turned on her. Like I really loved Hannah and Charlie. And I could have been open. I liked Charlie. She moved too quickly with Pepe. Like-

Wasn't there a little- The spit start. The spit start heard from the world. Couldn't never be me. No, that was so crazy. Especially when the night before she's crying about Charlie, like wailing. And so I think I would have been fine with Hannah and Pepe

and I actually really like Pepe. If he likes her, like I think that like speaks to her character even more. She just got like too into him too fast and it just negated everything she had with Charlie. I'm sorry when you diss Charlie, you diss me because I'm not over him. I just am still like, I'm stunned

that they sent her my home. I really am still like, I'm stunned that they sent Jeremiah home. I really feel like we need, like there needs to be like, you get to bring someone back. Like there needs to be. So that's what people are saying, but honestly, everything people are saying have been wrong. They thought we were voting for most popular boy and girl

to send them on a date. And you know that the fans like have this thing for like Nick and Alandria. Oh really? There are all these like fan edits that they think that like Nick is really in love with Alandria, but I also think for the fans, like Nick is their favorite guy, which I'm-

I actually like Nick. He's really growing on me. He's really like a good guy, except he should be more all in on Sierra than he is and like stop chasing. Like it's time to lock in. I agree, but it's also early and they're about to go through Casamor.

How is it early if it's Casamor? Casamor is like- Well, I don't know if he wants to set expectations if he's about to go through Casamorra. How is it early if it's Casamorra? Casamorra is like... Well, I don't know if he wants to set expectations if he's about to go in there. Right, and I understand, they don't know they're going into Casamorra. Oh, they don't? I understand.

I thought everyone knew that. Isn't that just like a thing? No, but they don't know that it's like tomorrow, right? Oh, God. Tonight, right? Yeah, tonight. I feel like tonight they're gonna hear they're going and then it's gonna end.

And then in two nights we'll be able to see what happens. But that's my only qualm with Nick, but whatever. They're young, take your time. He's obviously, they're all blinded by this girl which is just so funny. They're all, they would literally all drop their girls to be with her. Which is just, it's like, you have to have such a strong

sense of self to be on this show. Yeah, you really do. Or just be very hard, but also soft because you have to fall in love or else you won't stay on the show but then you need to be able to be on this show. Yeah, you really do. Or just like be very like hard, but also soft, because you have to fall in love or else you won't stay on the show, but then you need to be able to be like, okay. You're really having to play two games here. It's the game of love and then the game of like, get people to like me enough so that I don't leave.

I have to get America to like me enough and the people in the house to apparently like me enough. Yeah, but then there's Huda, who I don't know who will. And I agree, maybe the producers did save her. I think the producer saved her 100% for the sake of entertainment. And I can be okay with that, but I do think she was leading this discussion

amongst the girls and they didn't show us the deliberation. I was gonna say, are you sure? Because of course she was the one to send Hannah home because she wants to move in on Pepe after things didn't work out with TJ. It's so clear when like she's, I don't, okay. What are they saying online? Ace is the leader of the guys

and Huda must be the leader of the girls, which I would not, I just know I would not be friends with Huda. No, I think that Huda like thinks she's leader of the girls and I think she's like, none of the other girls want to take up the mantle. Because to me, like Alondra should be the leader of the girls, she's very rational.

She's strong, but she's nice, yes. Yeah, but it does like make me annoyed like Alondra should be the leader of the girls. She's very rational. She's strong, but she's nice, yes. Yeah. But it does make me annoyed with Alondra. Like, I feel like in those discussions, I feel like Sierra is very much like a free spirit. Like, she's not, she doesn't want a leadership role. She's not taking one. I feel like she was probably not really participating.

Who was the other person? Shelly's too quiet. Shelly, Alondra, and Huda, who else is there? Amaya? She was in the bottom. I guess it was just the four of them. Yeah, just the four. So like, I feel like Shelly and Alondria

are really like the voices of reason in the villa. Everyone really likes them, like on the show and- Outside. Outside. And I'm honestly disappointed in them that they didn't like stand up to whatever Huda wanted and know what the right decision was because it was so clear that Amaya

is the one that should go home. Like, and her sending Pepe home was just the, them sending Pepe home was just the most transparent thing I've ever seen. Like there are, why should Hannah go home? I mean them sending Hannah home, I can't. Why should Hannah go home?

Why should Hannah go home? She did nothing, like she's literally, you sent home her last boyfriend, she found a new boyfriend. It's actually, but it's like the whole premise of the show. It's like, Amaya wasn't offering anything. Yeah. It's not like she was like Huda,

which you could argue Huda is like the most dramatic and she's gonna continuously bring entertainment. Like, I just don't get it. No, I don't. And at least like we know America didn't like her. At least put Huda in the bottom three and save her. It's fine, save her then. I don't think they would have saved her because I think-

Oh, then they would have had to choose. They would have had to choose and I think they would have been like, we're always saving her and maybe not done it. And I don't think producers like wanted to leave that up to chance because they need her. How do you think producers let Jeremiah go home then? It was like, I just don't understand that. I feel like they thought, if Amaya and Austin went home, it would have just been like very obvious, like goodbye.

Like people wouldn't be so fired up like we are now. Like we're very fired up. And I feel like they think that's a good thing. Like people are invested in the show. Like, oh my God, did you see last night's episode? But let me tell you. Get the social tweets up. Yeah, yeah.

I fucking hate this show. Yeah. I hate, like, I just, nothing makes sense. I was saying to Claudia on the Patreon, like a lot of the cast members, they're like young. So I think that's a good thing. I fucking hate this show. I hate, like, I just, nothing makes sense. I was saying to Claudia on the Patreon, like, a lot of the cast members, they're like young, so I think that they, like, during COVID were in high school and college and like doing remote learning.

It's crazy. I didn't want to be reminded of that. It's giving remote learning. These people can't think. Like, no, their IQs, no offense. Every time they're allowed to make a decision, it's the wrong one. And I can't watch it anymore.

I do lose a couple brain cells, not gonna lie. I feel like the producers are laughing, being like we crushed it and I keep saying, it really feels like Hunger Games, like Philip Seymour Hoffman being like, how can we raise the stakes, how can we make this so crazy? And I feel bad for them in a sense where it's like,

they were having a nice night and then they get a text that go to the fire pit and it's like. No, and they're so upset, they're like no. Shit's about to go down okay but wait who is hysterically crying oh the way Hannah which was really sad but she she really looks like she just got like a death sentence no I know but like she's gone through it twice now like I think when you're in there and you're bored all day and this is like the biggest I totally get it and time goes slower in

there and so I think that even when she was like, I don't know how I'm supposed to look at you guys, you just sent me home, which she's so right for that. There was no reason for her to go home. The obvious choice was Amaya and they fumbled the ball. And the boys just, I don't know, they all think they have a chance with Andrena now. They don't.

And now like Huda, she got Jeremiah out of the villa. She doesn't have to watch him talk to another girl. And she got the girl out who's talking to the guy that she wants to talk to. Like, how did she end up winning? I don't like how much power it feels like she has. I agree. And-

She just like, I don't know. I just don't like how dramatic, even the conversation she had with TJ, she was like, I'm not gonna be like that kind of girl that's like, fuck you. It's like actually what you are. We literally watched this. Wait, actually.

That was literally you. Literally. You're the only one who does that. Good for TJ for detaching himself from her. Oh, I knew he didn't like her from the second. I knew he didn't like her, but I felt like if he didn't make it clear, and I'm shocked that he did make it so clear,

cause like it's nice to have options. Yeah. She would have, like you don want to be attached to her, because she will bring you down. Look at Jeremiah. And he knew that, because he can't see. Was he able to watch the show? Some of it, yeah.

Oh. I think cutting her off before you become a part of her story is a good thing to do. I'll be very curious what Pepe does. But now, in Casa Amor, she'll have a million blank slates. I feel like they're kind of safe now within the house. They'll have time to get away from the drama within each other.

And I'm excited to see what happens. But I just, I don't want there. But no one's saying, if any couple gets broken up by Casa Amor, I literally won't be surprised or care. Or care, you're right. Nick and Sierra are probably the strongest couple. And he has a foot out the door. Right.

And that even will be obvious if there's just a really hot girl who'll get googly eyes and will just wanna explore that and then go back to Sierra and she's not gonna wait. She's not gonna wait between him unless she finds, hopefully she finds someone else. Maybe, but I think she's really into him and I understand why. And then Nick and, I mean, Ace and Shelly

and Elandria and Taylor, zero chemistry between them. I hope Shelly, I need Shelly and Alondra and Taylor, like zero chemistry between them. I hope Shelly, like I need Shelly to give me something cause I'm kind of bored. Yeah, no, I agree. And I like, I don't have any issues with her, but like you've now been here since day one. Like we need more. Yeah.

Alondra gives a lot cause like she's always in good conversations and like saying the thing that like you're shouting to the TV. Huda obviously does her Huda thing and they're the three day ones. So then people are saying, and as I've said, people are always wrong. They wanted the Nick and Alandria to go on a date.

That they will bring back, they think that they're gonna bring back a cast off guy and a cast off girl for a Casa more because apparently there's one less person than there's always been. They need to bring back Jeremiah. Oh, when they showed them on the screen? Yeah.

Okay, okay. Like apparently there should have been one more guy and one more girl. Got it. They need to bring back Jeremiah. And like then he's like back with, if he walks back in with Andrena, like I would love that. We need, we don't have any great moments of like great love.

Like this is love island. Like it's not survivor. No, and he's the only guy that actually seems to be willing to fall in love. Yes, I agree. And like I wanna see a really strong relationship, like I wanna see a couple come out of it, that's like Leah and what's his name?

Or like whoever went last year, can't remember anybody's name. No, that's okay, there's a lot of people. And then for the girls, they think that Bella would come back. But she's, no, I got no, I'm sorry, her voice. I didn't miss, like she was nice on the show and I liked her no kissing thing.

Yeah, but she needed to give a little bit. But I haven't missed her one day since she been gone. No, I could not, her voice did not match the face. And I'm not even like trying to be mean. It was just like, it was really grinding my gears a little bit. And when you paid attention to the things that she said, she didn't say anything, all that she said was,

what, yes, no. Like it was, no, like there, maybe she said other stuff off camera, but like there was no conversation. I haven't missed her a day since she's been gone. I really thought the first episode, I thought she was gonna be like the hardest girl to beat. Yeah.

I was like, she's gonna be the one the other girls are gonna be jealous of. No, but you know what, I'm glad that like, when she had to debase herself and then start kissing everyone and then still got sent home, like, she's gonna be the one the other girls are gonna be jealous of. And all the guys were before. I'm glad that when she had to debase herself and then start kissing everyone and then still got sent home. Maybe the guys were calling her prude. They're disgusting.

The whole show is disgusting. And now I'm sucked in and I'm watching. And it's not that I can't turn it off. It's obviously great, Fodder. I really enjoy talking about it on this show and having strong, it's a part of my routine now. But I'm still, I hate still like, I hate everyone. I'm so mad.

I want to see some love. And if they do bring a girl back, I guess it should be Hannah. Who else has gone home at this point? Really? Like, I don't even care about the girl. I just need Jeremiah to come back. I need Jeremiah to come back. I need a girl that is strong, that isn't like mean.

I agree. Like I want a girl with a real connection that really wants to fall in love because I'm not getting that from anyone but Huda, but Huda's mean. Yeah. I want a girl that's nice, confident and wants to fall in love.

Like I want Aliyah. I feel like that's Alandria except for some reason she's into Taylor who gives nothing and we're sort of stuck in this cycle. And she likes him, it seems. The fact that she chose him over Jalen, like I'm not gonna question whether or not she likes him because of course, like Jalen was a perfect man.

Yeah. And so you obviously find Taylor to be more perfect. I mean, I would have a hard time not thinking about the outside world. Like could I be with this person really on the outside? Like those are things that go through my head. I'm just, I'm more rational than like falling in love in Fiji. I know, but I also feel like this cast feels really young

and like it doesn't, nothing matters to them in terms of the love. And I feel like the love is like becoming a subplot on the show where it's like more about strategy. And okay, that's just like not the show I thought I was watching. I like the love. I want there to be at least one last couple.

I want Molly and Tommy, that's the best sort of season. Oh my God, I really need that. Molly and Tommy, we're not getting a Molly and Tommy. I need a Molly and Tommy. Like I need just a gorgeous, two gorgeous humans that are just so cute. And in love and like, and cute. I also love the UK

cause they speak so much more eloquently. Yeah. Like Huda is cussing within every two words. The conversations are really getting to a place of, someone asked us tonight, what's your favorite fruit? That's where we're at. Fucking strawberry. That's where we're at. It depends what's in oh, a fucking strawberry. That's where we're at.

It depends what's in season. Like right now I like strawberries because they're in season and they're tasty. Oh, you're saying that's what they're talking about. Someone asked, what's your favorite fruit? Oh, I saw that and he said, I hate pineapple. I'm like, who are you? And now we know.

You know what the worst was? Whatever conversation Hannah and Pepe had, what was it? It was so dumb. Which honestly I feel for them, because they're like, what do you talk about all day and all night? I know. There's nowhere to go.

But it was just like, it hurts. It hurts. It does hurt to watch sometimes. But when you have no phone, you do start to talk about things that are just like things you wouldn't normally talk about. So like what's your favorite sport? Yeah.

There's nothing else to do. No, I know. It's really getting rough. I'm so mad at everyone. I need a redemption episode. Bring back Jeremiah. Yeah. So that hit.

I'm single Jeremiah, if you're out, just like justice for you and hit me up. I don't know if I'm your type though. I ship. And how old are you? Cause that matters. I ship. Okay. Maybe it's not so bad.

Come home, Jeremiah. Juliet's waiting. Juliet, thank you so much for joining me today. This was so much fun. I'm so glad we got that all off our chests. Yes, I feel better now. It's like a little therapy sesh. Agreed.

Tonight, there's more Love Island. And I do believe we'll be recapping it tomorrow with tomorrow's co-host because she is another expert on the matter. So I'm just going to leave that there. Juliet, where can everyone follow you and shop JMP? Juliette Porter is my Instagram, at Juliette Porter and then at JMP the label

for my bikinis and at Don't Be Ridiculous for my podcast. I love it. Thank you. Thank you all for listening. We will see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye. Bye guys.