The Toast - Really, Flaubert?: Wednesday, June 12th, 2024

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

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Have we sang that before? Not paws. No, I actually think we have. Maybe we've been podcasting too long do you get deja vu as like a clinical symptom um as somebody who doesn't possess the you know ability to remember anything like memory is not something I currently possess no I've never experienced deja vu which is so sad because it sounds like a trip. It is. And maybe because my memory is too strong,

I have deja vu all the time. And it's a hard feeling to explain, but it's like I've been in this moment feeling these feelings, thinking these thoughts. It's really a trip, man. Like the way you describe it I'm jealous you know I love feeling things but you know what's also a weird thing to think about like what if what I think is deja vu isn't deja vu because like we all can just describe what deja vu is to one another

but what if we're just feeling like different things what if I'm just like it going through something else okay I thought what you were gonna say which I think is like a better take on deja vu was like what if it's not deja vu that you're feeling like what if you haven't experienced this moment before perhaps you've experienced it in another life oh okay yeah that's what some people say you know your reincarnated self has been here perhaps if you believe in reincarnation but no like I'm so grounded in my deja vu like I know it's been in this life when I'm feeling it I'm like oh that feels like I just you've had to be there to know the feeling it's really something you cannot describe do you have any recurring dreams yeah Yeah. Recurring themes in dreams.

No, no. But like the same dream. Not the same dream, but like something in the dream will be happening. That happens a lot in my dreams. Yeah. No, that's not really what I was asking. Okay. Like do you have the same dream ever?

No, no. I said no. Do you? I have. That sounds like a nightmare. No, no, no, no. I have. And I keep waiting for it to come

back I'm like now I'm like I'm like I'm on to it and I need him to come having the same dream twice a recurring dream oh like two nights in a row or like once in your adolescence and once you know I don't think that's a recurring dream I think like people who go to sleep every night and like have that's recurring does that happen to people does that mean? What does that say about them? I really think my dreams are like seriously some of the most fascinating storytelling of our generation. And the fact that like my dreams are first of all only seen by me and barely remembered. Or so you think. Or are barely remembered.

It's a travesty. Like Steven Spielberg thinks he knows what good movies are. He's never seen my dreams. They're unbelievable. They're unbelievable. They're incredible. Like they're so crazy delusional. And they're extremely telling of like how I think of myself. Do you know what I mean?

Explain. Like in every dream I'm a star, you know? Okay. What are you doing? Being a star. Like all these celebrities want to be my friend. Like all these celebrities want to date me. Like I have like, I have at least three dreams a week where like a really, like, all these celebrities want to be my friend. Like, all these celebrities want to date me. Like, I have, like, I have at least three dreams a week where, like, a really, you know,

handsome leading man is, like, chasing after me. But in my dreams, I'm married. And in my dreams, I stay loyal. I'm like, Zac Efron, I literally can't date you. I'm married. Yeah. So then is it hard to wake up? No, because I wake up to my husband, who I didn't cheat on, even in my dreams.

Like, I'm so loyal. No, but then, like, there's no Zac Efron. Not the waking up, but like the going about your day. Like is your dream life more fabulous than your regular life? That's a good way. That's a good question. Sometimes, yeah. Sometimes, yeah.

I can't lie. But I feel like it's, you know, the ebb and flow because sometimes your dream life is a nightmare. And so it's like, okay, that's not my real life, but also this isn't my real life. I'll just take my real life. Thanks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's like okay that's not my real life but also this isn't my real life I'll just take my real life thanks yeah yeah no it's good it's good I don't because if you have your dream life then you also have your nightmare life so true so I'll stay here on this planet and I definitely had some interesting dreams because I watched a sort of a titillating film before bed um nobody recommended it to me on my journey of historical non-fiction or whatever but I did watch a trailer for Cinderella Man because you brought it up and it like sounded good and seriously me and Ben were like I bet this movie

is good it's one of the worst most piece of shit trailers on the planet like to make a movie look bad in a trailer is actually hard and it made us not want to watch it so we literally did it I don't know if I would recommend that you watch it oh I was just talking about it I don't know why I saw it everyone in the comments was like you have to watch Cinderella oh I think you're okay I don't I don't think and then I went to watch Miracle which you had suggested about you know the Soviet hockey game it's a decom did you know that like yeah it's a decom in the same way that like we are, what's that Denzel Washington football movie? Remember the Titans is, you know? Right, or like Secretariat.

Yeah, so it's like a high budget. Like it was in theaters produced by the Disney Channel, you know? And again, Ben was like not convinced at all. What? I would feel like he would be for that. Also, remember the Titans, Secretariat, Mighty Ducks. Like those are all fire movies. I think Ben was really and I was in a similar boat like completely disinterested in the Cold War. Like we we're we're on the same page in the sense

like we know very little about it. But then I did convince him to watch a Cold War movie that actually looked good. It was called Bridge of Spies. I think it was like a recent Oscar contender Spielberg film Tom Hanks who I just loathe. Like seriously, I was watching the movie and I was like, you will never be Forrest Gump. Like you'll never, like just stop. You know, he was bothering me a lot. Although the movie was good and it was based on a true story and the credits had some fun facts, which, you know, is the telltale sign of a good movie. It was about, you know, spies during the Cold War, communism, et cetera, et cetera. It was good stuff. I actually really enjoyed it.

And I did learn a little bit. Not a lot. I learned a little bit. Okay. Are you interested in exploring this time even more? Well, I was more so interested in the man that Tom Hanks played. He was just like this, you know, Brooklyn lawyer, nothing special. And how he ended up being like the lead negotiator for like hostages and spies in the U.S.

was through this, you know, happenstance moment that happens in the movie. I don't want to spoil it. And so I liked learning about that. But like Russia itself, actually everyone was like really pissing me off. Because I guess I learned yesterday that it was called the Cold War because it was kind of cold. You know, there was no like battles. Action. It should really be called like the paranoia war.

Like everybody was so on edge, like so paranoid about like, oh, there's Russian spies in the sewers. There's Russian spies in the phone. It's like nobody cares about you actually. Calm down. It was like giving drama queen energy. Well, I think they do. Is that called like the red scare?

They know that they were scared. Oh, yeah. And then all the kids in school are like learning how to survive an atomic bomb and it's like again nobody cares about you we're not dropping a bomb on you it was just giving very much everybody making it about themselves or maybe because like of diplomatic relations like those things didn't come to pass so then it does look in high a little dramatic but if it had happened it wouldn't have been dramatic it actually wouldn't have been enough yeah the red scare is a period of public fear and anxiety over the supposed rise of communist or socialist ideologies in a non-communist state i feel like

we you know we have the luxury of looking back and being like oh that was dramatic because maybe like things went as they should but if it had if people didn't do their parts it wouldn't have been so scared like maybe there should have been more of a Nazi scare, don't you think? Yeah. And then Ben and I got to talking about communism. Because we also watched Oppenheimer and it was like, oh my God. If you had even like the smell of communism on you, you were seriously like expelled from social circles, academia. It was like the worst fucking thing you could have.

And my question is this. One, like why were we so afraid of communism back then do you know I'm asking you um like yeah we could think people who like believe that were like wacky and dumb but like we were literally afraid uh yeah well I guess because there was like, it depends on what level. Like if he was in government and are you a spy for a communist regime that is our enemy and we're in like a war with them. And were we in a war with them because they were communists? Or like there's other stuff going on? There was other stuff.

Like we were never the tightest of friends. But then in World War II, like we came together for a moment to defeat the Nazis that was major major key but then we like went back to doing our own things and our own ways of life and I think like you know they're always concerned that oh we're concerned that their ideas are going to bleed over here and they're concerned we're going to bring democracy over there so it was just like stay in your lane and then my other question is like how did we go from one extreme to the other you know in such a short period of time it's like you seriously if you even breathe the word communist in the wrong circles like your life was over like seriously they

killed people like literally put them to death that spy and now it's like kind of hip to be communist like I just don't understand like seriously and I guess that's just history repeating itself like that's how these things start but like how did we get here how do we get out how do we get out is a major question um yeah I don't know when maybe after the cold war that's when like people just let loosened their vibes vibes around communism and you know I think as time passes people forget how bad communism actually is what it means to live under communism yeah and they think it's like this utopian society where it's not and communism has never worked anywhere not once and yeah look at the

places that have employed it but I think the further away you get from it the younger generation they are like what if we are equal well so I actually was just seeing this on TikTok like this generation of you know first generation Americans whose parents were immigrants who fled like communist countries and like these horrible conditions for a better life so they could send their kids to college to become To become communists. Yeah. It's the circle. The circle of life. It's true. Have you ever heard the saying? I love sayings, by the way.

Hit me with your best one. This is a really good saying, and I want to get the order of it right. So let me just pull up the crow card. Here it is. Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. I think that's where we are. I think we're in the weak men part.

You not heard that one before? No. I love a good phrase. What would you say is your favorite phrase of the moment that you find yourself using a lot? And I just want to say like you could say it creates strong people. Like if you want to get it.

Yeah, because that's definitely like a little bit archaic. Okay, hard times create strong people. Strong people create good. That works for me too. me yeah that makes more sense like in and I think it applies as a woman it applies to me too yeah like the hard times make me strong so true you're so strong weak you're and weak times make hard weak me creates hard times okay whatever uh what is a phrase like you what's your phrase of the moment? I feel like you could tell me what my phrase of the moment is better than I could tell you. I don't know.

Because you're always listening to me. Tinks is a good phrase that I haven't been saying a lot, but I've been thinking a lot. Holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. That's a good one. I love it. That's a really good one. But it's easier said than done. Like I think a little bit of anger is always good.

I also don't agree with it. Like I am alive because of my anger. My anger gets me, my anger propels me forward. It's like drinking a poison that's like, you know, a drug elixir. It's not going to kill you. For me, like holding on to anger is like drinking a Red Bull. Like it's heavenly. But that is technically poison, but you're on another level.

I'm on another level. Yeah. No, someone also said that on a reality show recently and it stuck with me. Of course, I'm living in your bloom where you're planted moment. Of course. And also one that I love

that I feel like I haven't mentioned in a few years, but I think that people need to know again. And I got it from Robin on Peloton. Sometimes self-care looks like hard work. You do love that one. I would absolutely love if everybody could sound off in the comments, either on YouTube or on our Instagram. Like, what is your favorite phrase?

What's a phrase, like a motto? I'm always looking for new mottos. I feel like I put a motto on my notes app on my computer because I like read it in a newsletter. Oh, wow. She's whipping out her computer. If you guys aren't watching YouTube. What? It's here.

I don't know why I saved it. Okay. It's from someone named Flaubert. F-L-A-U-B-E-R-T. It's from someone named really Bert. Really Flaubert. You guys, can we sell that story uh yeah

I've been saying it all day and I'm gonna try and figure out why I saved this quote okay what was the phrase no Claudia I don't want to save this are you embarrassed I'm embarrassed it's like share it I will I will but i just want

you to know like i don't i don't know is this your bonnui moment sort of okay really flabbert this is the quote oh my god and and it's recent too. And I think I read it. The only newsletter I get is the Free Press. So it was in one of their articles. And I just, it resonated with me. Are you guys ready? I don't think you are. Let's go.

This is like you sharing your yearbook quote. Oh, did I ever? You did. Or no, you texted it to me. No, I think I said it on Patreon. No, you texted it to me. No, I think I said it on Patreon. No, you texted it to me. Yeah, okay. Honestly, why did you have to bring that up?

Because I had deja vu because I remember this feeling. I'm ashamed. Because the deja vu reminded me of this feeling of what it's like to share a quote that you don't really like stand by except mine's like three weeks old. Okay. Okay. Mine's like three weeks old. Okay. Be settled in your life and as ordinary as the bourgeoisie in order to be violent and original in your work.

Wait, what? Say it again. I literally don't get it. Be settled in your life and as ordinary as the bourgeois in order to be violent and original in your work. No, that's honestly worse than Bonne Way. Wait, I feel like, though, I understood. I'm going to find the article that I was a part of because maybe that will give context to what this meant to me.

Okay, I can't find it. I feel like reading it like I understand why I liked it for a second but to go out of my way to save it to my notes that's humiliating like seriously that is the craziest thing I just I feel like I like the message where it's like live an ordinary life and then like get do crazy things in in your work in your creative outlet no I love that but to save. She's literally a podcaster. I take my job seriously. Yeah, as an art. I take my creativity seriously, but to save it, really flabbergasted. Okay, you guys, like a couple of weeks ago, as always, like all day,

we're always sending pictures in our family chat, like of what's going on, the dogs, the kids. And Olivia sent this video of her kids and it was so cute. And I'm watching it and they're just like playing with each other. And Michaela gets really in her brother's face, like really up in his face. And what came out of her mouth was seriously like the last thing I would have. And she said it with a kind of like a British accent. She goes, really Bert? And I said to Olivia, I was like, what the fuck is Bert?

Like, who is Bert? And she was like, it's a line from Mary Poppins. It's like the kid's favorite movie of the moment. She's like, Olivia wasn't shocked by it. I, seriously. It was the most shocking thing. If she had said like, nothing could have shocked me more really Bert really Bert so she sounded like Moira Rose yeah yeah really Bert I don't like

yeah by the way she is endlessly inspiring to me endlessly quotable and I wonder do like other people and this is just a who we are we do it with each other so like it makes sense that we do it with the kids now but like do other people quote their children and like as much as we do you know everything are other people doing it right like what is Koja doing doing like I don't know if you start to talk like your kids but it's honestly so fun really Bert really so I don't know how we got here Flo Bert Flo Bert the quote of the moment so I wouldn't say that's my quote of the moment though no okay um we have an amazing show today we've got stories we've got fast five we've got fun we do anything else you want to chat about before we dive in no i just want to google who

flaubert was watch he's a communist no literally like marx's marx's friend okay gustave flaubert was a french novelist he has been considered the leading exponent of literary realism in his country and abroad we stand we have no choice but to stan. Oh, he wrote Madame Bovary. I meant to tell you, a movie I almost watched before Bridge of Spies that was seriously, like, too heavy and I, like, couldn't was Sarah's Key. Because, you know, I've never seen it. And I've never, like, read a book or a movie about that incident in France with the, like, soccer stadium.

The Vendome. The Vendome, like, where they, like, put 15,000 Jews in and left them in that stadium to die. And, like, all their, they just, like, literally died of starvation. And, like. Yeah. Like, just left them there. And then the whole, like, town smelled for, like, a year of, like, dead corpses.

They just seriously, like, put, like, 15,000 people in this room to die. And I, I, I've been, like, wanting to like wanting to I like want to know more about it but it's so graphic. That's what Sarah's Key is about? It's referenced I think it's a story of someone from that thing. It's a modern-day journalist finds her life becoming entwined with a young girl whose family was torn apart during the notorious Veldiv roundup. And it's a part of the Holocaust like people don't talk about because it low-key like wasn't the Nazis. It was like people in France who were just like, I'm sick of these Jews.

Let's put them in this soccer stadium. The French didn't need a lot of convincing. No. In fact, they needed none. They were like, how can we help? No, no. That's a line from Reba that seriously made me laugh so hard. It's like, Barbara Jean?

Okay, Barbara Jean. I sent you a video of it. Do you remember? No. Whatever, Barbara Jean and her husband are planning to have a hard conversation with someone. And the second they sit down, the husband like rolls over and is just like, so the person leaves the bar when she turns around and she's like,

thanks a lot, France. Oh my God, it's so unexpected. It's so funny. And yeah, you're right. Like it's, it was 100% accurate. Yeah. This is, by the way, a history podcast. Yeah, we have different eras, of course.

I think we all remember fondly our sports era. And I think that is definitely, you know, due for a renaissance with football season, you know, coming soon. But we're definitely, I feel like you've been trying to make this a history podcast, and I've been like trying to tell you to shut the fuck up for like three years. Now it's definitely a history podcast. Is it history fascinating, La? It is. It really is. It's maddening. It is maddening. But what's so crazy, as they say, history repeats itself. And, you know, it's never word for word, but it rhymes. That's in a more succinct quote, but I. Oh, wait, say it again.

Like, hold on. Let me get the proper quote. This is just like, are we a quote card? Are we a quote podcast? Hold on. I like that history doesn't repeat itself it rhymes yeah Mark Twain history doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes right like similar vibes is what Mark Twain right it's never gonna be apples to apples but it rhymes it's gonna be green apples to yellow apples because also like human the nature of human beings is the same. Like I feel like you look back at people from hundreds of years ago and you're like, I could

never be that. They were horrible people like that. And you think like you live in like the best, most moral generation. And then like, oh, it turns out like, oh, you would have actually been a Nazi. No. And then also you think now like in a hundred years when we are in the history that people are learning about, what are we doing now? Like, you know, commonplace things, like slavery.

Claudia, I know what they are. You do? Yeah. But, like, they're so commonplace, you can't even speak out against them. Wow, chilling. Chilling stuff. Oh, my God.

I forgot to share something so major that happened to me what Sabrina Carpenter reposted one of my TikToks what do you mean there's a repost feature on TikTok I don't know if you know that it's like retweet on x exactly um and she reposted one of my TikToks I was using her song please please please skin no I wish please please please how many times does she repost stuff I'm not sure but like the impact was there like I it had had about 200,000 views and now it's at like over three yeah over 300,000 yeah oh um what were you doing in the video singing and dancing to please please please oh cool and I just like happened to look particularly gorgeous like it was natural naturally lit I love that for

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if you've been wanting to start therapy and you just kind of needed a nudge perhaps let turdy be your nudge i nudge you enjoy thank you better help for sponsoring today's episode thank you turdy you're welcome jack by the way of course on my phone i have a list of quotes that we like that you make me start a list and some of them are more like phrases and they're like tiktoky but one that we love that I just want to resurface never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake obsessed obsessed beyond and then I also have on another tab called quotes from April 2020 just one quote April 2020 it's just that's how long ago it is but

i think no but where were we during april 2020 was that that was the beginning of covid right yeah yeah okay oh so this makes us extra sad right right context is important this is all it says i'm shining like fireworks over your sad empty town yikes that's like not like a quote it's a lyric and of all the ones why did we write that one down because of all like the Taylor Swift like for me there are Taylor Swift lyrics that seriously like I live by one of them being um I could build a castle out of all the bricks they threw at me. Dear reader, bend when you can, snap when you have to. That's me.

Yeah, you introduced me to that one. And of course, my favorite one. My favorite one of all time. Pass me. I want to tell you not to get lost in these petty things. Your nemeses will defeat themselves before you get the chance to swing chilling chilling we should actually keep a list of like Taylor lyrics that like really and I guess that first one can start out the list it's a cute yeah I like it I'm shining like

fireworks over yours it's a nice visual people love rocks people throw rocks at things that people throw rocks at things that people throw rocks at things that shine yeah you can definitely get like an apron with that on etsy yeah like if you're a person in this world if you're a person in this world who has even one hater there is a taylor's piv lyric for you like a lot of them are about like scrutiny but i guess even if you're not a person like with haters like in your life you have like detractors yeah yeah okay well now let's get into the stories our first story Ariana Grande is on Penn Badgley's podcast called Pod Crush and she's talking about quiet on set oh my god yes so Ariana says that the environment needs to be

made safer for kids in the industry and believes therapy should be mandatory. So she went on Penn Badgley's podcast called Pod Crush, which was released today. So there's a lot of quotes coming out. I haven't had a chance to watch it, but there's a lot that she's talking about. She talked about the docuseries Quiet on Set, and this is what she said, quote, a lot of people don't have the support that they need to get through performing at that level at such a young age, but also dealing with some of the things that the survivors who have come forward. There's not a word for how devastating that is to hear. I think that the environment needs to be made safer if kids are going to be acting, and I think there should be therapists. I think there should be parents allowed to be wherever they want to be, she continued,

adding that parents should be permitted everywhere, not only on kids sets. She said, I think if anybody wants to do this or music or anything at that level of exposure that it means to be on TV or to do music with a major label or whatever, it should be in the contract. She said that young performers are vulnerable to reactions to their performances from adults on set,

which creates a quote, strange pattern that occurs where it's really taking advantage of how much it means to the young performer to get a laugh from Video Village. You're like, oh oh shit I'm doing something great like this is funny this is good but she recognized that she's speaking from her own experience on the show noting how she and her castmates pushed the envelope with their humor she said quote and the innuendos were like we were told and convinced as well that it was the cool differentiation and I don't know I think it all just happened so quickly and now looking back on some of those clips,

I'm like, that's damn, really? The things that weren't approved for the network were snuck onto like our website or whatever it was. And that is another- Oh my God. That's another discovery, but I'm going into it. I guess I'm upset, she said. She believes that for those pursuing

these career trajectories with large scales, there should be an element that is mandatory of therapy, of a professional person to unpack what this experience of your life changing so drastically does to you at a young age or at any age. Yeah. I honestly never thought we would hear her take on it because the, like the window of, you know, speaking out, I feel, I thought had passed. I think doing it on a podcast is a fabulous medium for it.

And I think her and Penn Batchy like oddly have a friendship he's in the um music video she just released so they're obviously like working together and she obviously felt comfortable enough to like agree to go on his podcast and talk about this so I first of all love this friendship I kind of ship like how did they meet do you think let's play do you think his music from his music, from his music, Muthixer? No, no. Maybe she's a really big fan of his TV show. I feel like the new show on Netflix. I feel like she'd be a bigger fan of you than of Gossip Girl.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's Ari. So, interesting. I didn't really put together that weird footage from the iCarly and whatever. Sam and Kat. that like that weird footage from the you know iCarly and whatever salmon cat website that that they showed in the documentary was footage that was like not approved by the network that's like really scary yeah and I feel like when we were talking about quiet on set you know of course you want to hear from the big people who are still around like what their thoughts on the documentary

or just their overall experience but then with Ariana like there was also that piece of like those videos for the website yeah um and overall it seems like she had a she looks back on her time finally like she's still close with Dan Schneider I think so I think now she might be like looking at it from a different lens though I think that happens a lot like and especially when you're a kid. Like you don't remember everything that ever happened to you as a kid. That's like. Just a part of childhood. And so.

For it to be played out in a documentary. And sort of like. Explained to you. It's like weird. But it's. Like something happened to you. You were there. But you can see it differently now as an adult.

Like it does make sense. Like now she's angry. Whereas before. Maybe she didn't even think about it. Yeah. Because that's what you do. That's like human nature. To like.

Be a kid. You just. I think it's like a means of like. Protecting yourself. Like you just sort even think about it. Yeah. Because that's what you do. That's like human nature to like be a kid. You just, I think it's like a means of like protecting yourself. You just sort of keep going. Yeah. But you also just like trust that the adults know what they're doing. Yeah. And that they're looking out for you. Yeah.

So yeah, interesting that she went on Penn Badgley's podcast. But I think his podcast is new too. No, it's like a couple of years old. Really? He's always randomly like making waves with it because a couple of months ago he had Taylor Momsen on and they talked about like, you know, Dan and Jenny and it was, everyone was, you know, loving it. And he gets very good guests.

People really, it's called Pod Crushed, right? Yeah, yeah. People really like it. It's big on TikTok. What does the name mean? Do you know? I am so glad you asked because I feel like that's like a name of a podcast that like a generic podcast network would put out

about like you know something silly like he seems not silly he seems like he takes himself serious yeah and it's like it's in-depth interviews and it's, they tackle serious stuff a lot. So I don't know. Yeah, it's hard to come up with a name for your podcast though. I'm always surprised when people do it. Like, because podcasts come,

like everyone starts a podcast every day. And some people get like really good names for themselves. I'm like, oh, nice. That's good. Oh, I'm so glad you brought up this conversation

because I've been wanting to talk about, you know, Teresa Giudice rebranded her podcast. And I have to say, her previous podcast was called Namaste Bitches. Like, I would say probably top three worst podcast names like you ever could have come up with especially

this is a person who has so much lore so many like words associated phrases merch merchy type things like she couldn't have come up with a worse name for her podcast if she tried like seriously a piece of duty would have been a better name than namaste bitches and that was because one season she did yoga um and she's rebranded it now which is much needed to a fabulous name called turning the tables I saw a clip from turning the tables on my feed this morning and I didn't know I actually like meant to I watched the clip and it just talked about her like it was 10 seconds she was talking about how she never thought Housewives would be what it is. Like, so I thought maybe it was like a book or something.

I didn't realize that she rebranded her podcast. It's a much better name. Do you want to play a fun game? Yeah. Going through podcast names? Okay. What do you mean going through? Like other shows. I feel like someone. I have a hot names. Okay. What do you mean going through? Like other shows.

I feel like someone just. I have a hot take. Okay. I think seriously one of the worst titled podcasts is Smartless. It's literally not a word. Like I don't fucking get it. Damn, turdy. Let's go.

Oh, I like Vile Files. That's always been a strong one.. Oh, I like vile files. That's always been a strong one. You know what I like? And I like it also because of history. As a name, I think Giggly Squad is like the funniest, cutest name. Yeah. And it's like Kyle called them that on the show. I never saw that episode.

Jackie, never interrupt your enemies when they're what? Making a mistake. Making a mistake. Making a mistake. That was literally Kyle Cook. Like he handed them this gorgeous platter of like, and now like giggly, like everything. Genius. Yeah.

Real good. What are other like, well, the Joe Rogan experience. That's not an amazing podcast name, but nobody calls it that. It's not about the, when it's you, when your personality and you just have like the blank show, that's by me you don't need to like reinvent the wheel but I do think some people like really pigeonhole themselves with like really niche names I agree I'm now I'm looking at top oh there we are the toast the cutest name wait I gotta what is this and I also like I don't want to like shade anyone so I I'll just. Oh, I do. OK.

I'm on my way to the charts. OK, I'm here. Oh, you know whose name I think is bad? And she's always at the top. Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Wiser than me? Yeah. Wisser than me? I don't mind it because I think the premise is like talking to wise older people.

You know what I think is a good name? Armchair expert. I actually think it's an know what I think is a good name? Armchair expert. I actually think it's an excellent name. That is an excellent name. Our course, our favorite, Huberman Lab. So good. Good. Two bears, one cave is funny.

Throwback. Oh, what about two teas in a a pod i don't like it at all like really i don't but it's not held them back from finding success in the space it hasn't um how did we get here oh pod crushed pod crush yeah exactly crushed okay we could do this another time are you sure i mean money i don't don't let me interrupt you leisurely scrolling on your phone i'm enjoy like yeah but the ones that are cringe like i don't want to call them out i don't even know these people like and they're trying to make it in the industry like it's not for me to put them down yeah okay so ari has spoken thank you to Ari to Ari we think are you ready for our next story a little engagement news the 1975's Maddie Healy is engaged to model Gabrielle Bechtel

as in the Bechtel test that's what I was thinking interesting well this story did not pass the Bechtel test for sure we are we broke the Bechdel test? For sure. We are. We broke the Bechdel test. Yeah. We literally set the standard for the Bechdel test. This story does not pass the Bechdel test. Yeah, no doubt about it. Because the only woman involved is centered around a man.

But you know what? Fine. That doesn't mean it's not... Not everything has to pass the Bechdel test. No, no. But when it does... Excuse us for being girly. We pass the Bechdel test. No, no. When it does, like, excuse us for being girly. Like we pass the Bechdel test.

Like it's just a level above. Right. What kind of test is that? I don't know. And it's like, why can we stop monitoring like what women want to talk about? It's so, no,

but I think it's meant to be, you know, things that are created by anyone, man or woman. You know, I get it in like, yeah, in like movies and film and art but like in my life like if me and my girl just want to sit around and talk about guys like we're fine and also I don't think every movie needs to pass the Bechdel test like I think there are stories about men where the women like no offense are just like their wives right right but I think there are also stories about women where the men no offense

are just their husbands and also if we want like real equality what's the bechdel test for men the mechdel test the mechdel test i guess we don't need it because everything would pass it is the point yeah maddie healy's engaged to his girlfriend gabriette bechtel-Test. The two announced their engagement late Tuesday night after attending mutual friend Charlie XCX's Brat Show in Brooklyn, with Bechtel-Test sharing photos of herself wearing the ring featuring a black gem surrounded by pave diamonds around both the Stoneman band.

She said marrying the 1975 is very brat. Now, I don't care, you know, like what this person does in his personal life. I don't know this woman. I'm sorry to this woman. But I, of course, you know, it begs the question, how does Taylor Swift feel about this? And Taylor Swift is so happy in her life. Like she's at the height of her career.

She's in this amazing relationship. But I definitely think this news like still penetrates because and we know this from her work marriage is something like that's deeply important to her like she wants to get married it was a huge I think reason why her and Joe didn't end up working out and in a lyric from TTPD she says that Maddie Healy like would put an imaginary ring on her finger and it's a closest I've come to my heart exploding like I feel like this hurts I feel like not to take away from any of this and I don't know these people so this is just like my take as like you know given the content that was given to me so I got ttpd and then a few month a month and a half later I'm getting an engagement announcement from

the person who was like in the album saying that like he couldn't commit, like no ring, smallest man who ever lived. And like, maybe he would have been getting married to Bechdel Test anyway, but I feel like this sort of is good PR against the narrative of the album. Like-

Oh, you think this is his way of combating the narrative? Of just being like, yeah, no, I'm not that guy look I got engaged perhaps perhaps not to take away and maybe they still would have gotten engaged you know but it definitely kind of shuts down some of the claims on the album if he's settling down now and the timing just makes you think. Yeah. Yeah. And this is also the Instagram star that she references also in another lyric. Oh really?

Yeah. If you have babies with an inner and you know, that with an internet star, uh, it's the same girl. So that's cool. Yeah. I just,

I feel like it doesn't hurt his camp that like now he's gotten serious with this person. But I don't feel like he has like a camp. Like I don't think he plays into it. That's sort of his thing. That's why he's super controversial and kind of disliked in some circles. Not his camp.

Because he's this sort of renegade. Not his people, but it helps him, his... Image. Image, his. Image. Image, yeah. Yeah. That he's like settling down and not the person that maybe she made him out to be on the album. If he's doing something like this, but maybe he's doing like something like this because of what was said and sung.

Did you see this press conference where Travis was asked, like it's for football and he was asked. Yeah, it's our next story. Oh, are you ready? God, okay, not me having my finger on the pulse. Also, all of our stories need to pass the Swiftil test. Like, can we make this story not about Taylor Swift? Yeah, no, there actually is, like, a huge line of thinking when it comes to Taylor stories, because we can have a Taylor story every single day. Now, we don't want that. Like, there's some people who don't want to talk about Taylor Swift which is so crazy um so it's a delicate balance it's an equation yeah of when to select when to not but Travis is weird like Travis had a press conference of course

he was asked about Miss Taylor and he was asked the question like what do you and Taylor cook um there's a video Taylor did a partnership with YouTube shorts and it's like this compilation the question, like, what do you and Taylor cook? There's a video. Taylor did a partnership with YouTube Shorts, and it's like this compilation of moments in her life, I would say over like the last year, put to her music. And in this, everyone has deconstructed the video like a thousand times, and they pulled this moment where she's cooking on the stove and Travis comes over and kisses her.

It's so cute. Yes. And so the reporter asked what he likes to make with her in the kitchen based on that video and he said I respect that question but I'm going to keep that one to myself it's something I'd rather just keep personal then at the end of the interview he circled back to the question as he exited the stage and he told the audience Taylor makes a great pop tart and cinnamon roll okay now I want to start off by saying the state of journalism across all sectors, you know, it's not just sports, it's all journalism, but this is a perfect example.

Like seriously, a bad question, a dumb question, seriously, just like disgraceful. I know, and I feel like another... I'm sorry, it is disrespectful. Like this person is up there for their skill of football. Like to ask like a roundabout, we would be mad if they did it to a woman. And you know what, it's disrespectful. Like this person is up there for their skill of football. Like to ask like a roundabout, we would be mad if they did it to a woman. And you know what? It's disrespectful.

Like he's not there to talk about Taylor. Like, and so any question about Taylor is annoying in this scenario. A question as dumb and mindless and like stupid. Seriously disgraceful. Like she should, like, I think it was a woman who asked a question. Like you should be asked to leave.

Like it's a bad, you're not a reporter. You're not a serious journalist. Well, I feel like she should like i think it was a woman who asked a question like you should be asked to leave like it's a bet you're not a reporter you're not a serious journalist well i feel like he's like been so patient and like kind and people ask these really dumb questions like i would i would be embarrassed to ask some of these questions but he answers of course he answers them because he's like a nice person and he's not gonna be one of those guys it's like don't ask me about my but like it makes him look like very beta to be like i'm here to talk about myself like we don't care. Right. And he's not ever once done that. And even the way he answered this question was like, so, so sweet in a non answer way.

But the fact that he's never done that gives like these journalists like license to like ask these stupid questions and they're getting like worse and worse and dumber and further away from like, you could say like, what Taylor songs do you like to rev up for the game? Like bring it back to the fucking sport here. Yeah're they're so out of line and you're right like he's gotten a reputation because he's so magnanimous like yeah you could never catch me being that patient with such idiots like and it's like you give someone an inch they take a mile so the questions are getting worse they're getting more frequent I'm surprised he gets asked anything about football like it's it's really it's not fair and it's it's wrong

yeah so he didn't answer the question and then I wonder if he like felt like he was being rude right so then he gave them a little something which was sweet but he really doesn't need to do that no he doesn't and seriously like I need him to start being rude and I just want to say Taylor makes her own pop tarts like that's the sign it's giving trad I don't even make my own pop tarts yeah yeah yeah it's giving unfrosted do you think she no I think she 1000% read the book the marvelous Marjorie Post like we know she likes to read and I think definitely during her evermore era she was reading a lot and I could see her having she loves you know a strong powerful woman a businesswoman I think definitely during her Evermore era, she was reading a lot. And I could see her having, she loves, you know, a strong, powerful woman, a business woman.

I think she definitely read Marjorie Post. You think so? That she reads like swirly biographies like that? Yes, yes. She's very into like, that's how she knows random things and can write a song called Clara Bow, like some famous statue. Like she knows weird, random historical things for sure. What books do we know that she likes?

We know that she likes, oh know that she likes oh that's a good question like has she ever been spotted with a book like I feel like she likes Colleen Hoover oh for sure I mean because who doesn't really and for sure but also yeah literally goodreads.com there's a blog post books somebody. Somebody made a list. Books Taylor Swift has mentioned. No particular order. Okay. Great Gatsby, of course. Jane Eyre.

No, that's not what I'm talking about. Rebecca by Daphne DeMora. Is that Rebecca of Holiday House? Oh, for sure. A swirly biography on Rebecca. Gone Girl. I'm skipping some. Like The Sun Also Rises. Yeah, like of course

she read them in high school. Where the Crawdads? Why? Just because she wrote a song for it? Or no, she definitely read the book. She 100% read the book if she's a reader and it was the biggest book of the year and subsequent years. And yeah, she wrote a song for the movie like she cares about it. All the Twilight books are

in here? I believe that. Like and the rest are just classics, like Charlotte's Web. So if she read Crawdads, then she is like a modern reader. Right. Definitely read Seven Husbands. It wasn't on that list, but there was a book about Elizabeth Taylor and her marriages on there. Yeah.

I think she reads the modern classics. Verity, Seven Husbands, Daisy Jones. She reads a lot of poetry, according to this Reddit thread. Does she read Flaubert? I don't know, but I think she thinks, really, Bert? I think she reads Madame Bovary for sure.

I would love to know what books Taylor reads. Maybe a journalist could ask Travis that. That's a good question. Yeah, you could tell so much about someone from what they read. Don't you find, Turteloo? For sure. Like she definitely read Demon Copperhead.

You think? Yeah yeah because it's like was one of the number one books i i wonder if she follows like a reese's book club right is she like a huge reader even like you have to be when you're that smart and like good with words you read books that's how you learn words like i wonder if like she would like the redheads is all I'm gonna say she travels a lot too like she would like lady tan circle of women that we just read if you could recommend one book to Taylor Swift that's a good question girl with no job okay that's so sweet our excluding our books our published works okay wait can I can I do a little research quickly me too okay and maybe I'll recommend a redheads book just so that I could like then have her listen to the pod that's smart we've read so many good books recently like she would love like strange

sally diamond even you know strange sally diamond was very good but that's if you had one book no no no if I had one book it's so hard to do this for anyone law it is it is oh lessons in chemistry like I know she would like that I know she would like that I think I would recommend you know what I actually know she would love love in other words by Christina Lauren like seriously one of the best books I've ever read it's like so sweet and nostalgic and lovey and know what I actually know she would love love in other words by Christina Lauren like seriously one of the best books I've ever read it's like so sweet and nostalgic and lovey and and she would love it and what about um it happened one summer remind me which one that is that's the one oh that's what yeah Taylor Swift definitely like

would like smut for sure I think she does yeah but Marjorie Post like I could see her liking yeah that's a fun game sign up in the comments what book would you recommend to Taylor Swift that is a fun game and back to this reporter like seriously shameful we need to bring back shame I heard somebody say that once and I thought it the other day when I saw a grown woman pull her pants down in the street lean up against a car and like squat and just start peeing right outside Bloomingdale's, like not even in a side, like on a major, major street. And I really thought to myself, like, we need to bring back shame. People need to act embarrassed.

People need to know what humiliation feels like, because we've sort of just forgone that feeling and people feel the freedom to act however they want to say whatever they want and we need to start restricting people again like I don't believe in freedom anymore wow I believe in shame wow can't you have both no clearly not look around Jackie them to be ashamed no we need to bring back shame and I apologize I forget who said that and I thought it was such a poignant way of saying it. Because you used to be fearful of what other people thought of you. And so you acted in a way that was, you know, in accordance with social conduct. And we no longer have that.

We are boundless in our shamelessness. And I'm not here for it. Yeah. Okay. Like the things I see just like walking Romeo. You know, it's we need to bring back shame also on the internet you know just the way people like even not even people being like crazy like just like no shame and not to like keep bringing you back to the girl who flashed her titties at the

Dublin portal but like if she had felt if she had the capability to feel shame she wouldn't have shut down the portal shut down the portal and the guy, she wouldn't have shut down the portal. Shut down the portal. And the guy who, you know, spread his cheeks on the portal. Like. Ugh. Stop. Stop. I know the portal is like your Roman Empire.

To me, the portal is emblematic. You know how there's that shopping cart theory? Yes. Well. Do you. You talk. Do you know? Like, yeah, bitch.

I told you about it. Yeah. Yeah yeah but I'm just like trying to say for the sake of conversation for the sake of conversation but also like that's what's called shopping cart theory yes okay which by the way I have issues with shopping cart theory I just want to say you don't know the shopping cart theory is like when you're shopping for groceries you have everything in the cart you go back back to your car. You unload the groceries into the trunk. What do you do with that grocery cart when nobody's looking? That is like the true telltale sign of the type of person you are. Right.

And I think people are like, I put it away when no one's looking. I'm a good person. I'm an empath. And they're like the nastiest motherfucker. And I don't think that that is how to tell a good person from a bad one. First of all I and just to say like I always put the cart either back on the rack or on the sidewalk where it's not like disturbing someone's way someone else so like I am I pass the shopping cart test but there are

sometimes when people can't put their cart back like there are people well that's what there was this conversation being had on TikTok about it because this woman was like when I'm shopping with my two kids like I'm sorry I sorry, I'm literally just leaving the car. Literally leave your car. Like someone else can park a little further down who's like able bodied and not with kids and they're going to be OK. Other people are disabled. There's things going on in people's lives and just putting the car back or not putting the car back doesn't make you a good person or a bad one. If you really think that it's that simple, like then you don't know what it means to actually be a good person.

think that it's that simple like then you don't know what it means to actually be a good person Jackie I think that when people say the shopping cart thing it's one yeah because you could be blocking someone else's um like parking spot if you just leave it but it's also like I think we're referencing the person whose job it is to accrue the shopping carts and like put them back the person who works for the store yeah that like people are acting like it's this cardinal sin that that person now has to take three steps to go get another cart when like their job is getting carts like why is that the worst thing you could do to another person is the cart over there versus the cart over here when there's so many like other just behaviors what did you do in the store were you an animal in the store but you put your car back you know I don't think it's

a perfect theory yeah I just think people like really pat themselves on the back like I put my card away I'm good like no no and then they go like get in their car and they start like hitting their kids like like every minute they get in their car and they get on the phone they leave like a nasty comment on someone's Instagram like you're a bad person. Yeah, no, totally. It's not a one size fits all theory. Right. That's what I was going to say. Like that theory also could be applied to the portal. Like what do you do when you get in front of the portal

that says who you are? I completely agree. I completely agree. What would you do in front of the portal? It's just you and the portal and a bunch of people in Ireland. Can they hear me or just see me? Just see. Damn, okay, because I would have started singing.

I probably would have, like, danced a little bit. So cute, you're an entertainer. Like a little booty, like, ah, ah, like, ah, ah. You're an entertainer at heart. That's what it says about you. A thousand percent. I would have done, like, The Renegade or something. So cute you are.

What would you do? Like, peace wave. Yeah, no, she would have been like you know what's up yeah hey how y'all doing just like cutie yeah so that's what that says about me it is what if you spread your cheeks there you go are you ready for our next story oh my god is it not even number five yet? It's number four. Oh my God, we are being leisurely today. We really are.

Can the Kurds handle it? I think they can. Well, the fifth story will be a short one. But anyways, Bravo feud going on. Real Housewives of New York alum Carol Rad as well as clapping back at nasty Andy Cohen after he outs her as an anonymous source. Oh my God, wait, wait what this story is layered

Carol slammed Andy on X on Tuesday after he claimed that she was the anonymous Roni star who shaded him in his recent New York magazine profile so in the profile about him there were some anonymous quotes and he said on radio Andy oh that was a hundred percent Carol who said that oh my god so then she wrote on x saying someone can make a truthful observation and there's always one shortish dude waiting to be offended she said at this point why would any normal person use their name they're all so vindictive which I believe is the point of the quote and confirmed by Andy's nasty response in other follow-up tweets she called him condescending and absurd and said he should apologize for calling her out.

So the quote in the story was this. The unnamed former Bravo star dissed Real Housewives of New York saying, quote, The show went from silly humor about middle-aged women getting drunk and being delusional about their status and having funny petty arguments to housewives investigating and doing opposition research and making up false storylines and leaking stories on each other. Then the person went on to critique Andy's baby shower specifically the part where Lisa Rinna encouraged people to get up and dance for Andy and his baby which we all remember that moment. Iconic. And this person said quote I just thought it was such a cringe moment because that's the dynamic everyone just dances for Andy Cohen.

a cringe moment because that's the dynamic. Everyone just dances for Andy Cohen. Now I'm going to put Carol Radswell into a box. Now this box is filled with only one other person and it's Billie Eilish. And it's just every time we're talking about Carol Radswell or you know we're reading something that she said it's so negative. She's so dreadful. And she is officially in my Fabis and a punim box. Like just kind of this like long face, Dre cup misery, like, and how you could look at that baby shower, which was seriously such a culmination of like love and joy. And everyone, everyone who was there said they had the best time. Like there has not been one bad things. If you can find something nasty to say about it, like you are a Fabis and a punim. So I love, love that Andy called her out. Like he obviously figured out who it was.

Yeah, he said it wasn't hard to figure out. We've not fired that many Real Housewives of New York. He said it's Carol Radzow, no question. It's the one mean quote in there and it's the only anonymous quote. There are 18 reasons why it's Carol. 18? I think that was just like. Oh, i thought it was like a subliminal i'm watching too many taylor swift easter eggs she did this too it's

like oh no i thought like carol radswell like is number 18 or something i don't know whatever yeah yeah also it's kind of weird that and he also said he thought it was so weird that carol would have kept herself anonymous especially after all the times she shaded him publicly he said Carol said a lot of unkind things about me that she has tweeted and been quoted about so I was like why are you going off the record here it was so weird to me I didn't understand and also we haven't really fired that many New York housewives it's very obvious got it right right yeah because like even Kristen Taichman came back like everybody does right Right. And the quote, it's not even like it was so hot

that she had to go anonymous for it, especially cause she's been out there saying things. Well, I don't know, saying the thing about the baby shower is like

a particularly like mean thing. Yeah, I agree. But the first part about like why she thinks Roni failed, I disagree. That's not a criticism of Andy.

No. And I disagree with why like that's why the show was no longer good doing opposition research and making up false storylines and leaking stories like that's not no that was like good and the thing the thing she said at the beginning like all these older women drinking a lot that was when the show was bad right and being delusional about their status and having plenty arguments like that was painful that was painful where they would have these insane arguments the next morning

not remember anything and it was like all for nothing why did we even watch that right right what she described as like the good years were horrible um no and this is like classic carol like always making the worst takes it's really interesting her relationship with andy like how it deteriorated because she was one of those housewives that didn't need the show that really had to be convinced to be on the show and she knew andy before so i don't know like what went down and Bethany obviously like played a huge part in it but she's just like a hater yeah I think it started when she felt like Andy took Bethany's side in their feud because they were both like tight with Andy yeah but I will say like the Carol and Bethany years on Bravo like those were great years yeah like those years of Housewives before it all fell apart in

Columbia like that was a great great time it was she was a very good housewife Carol she brought a lot to the show like but the way like it's like how she left was so like unnecessarily messy and she kind of like doesn't let it go. How did she leave? She was, remember, she snapped at Andy at the reunion because she felt like Andy was taking Bethany's side in that argument. And she did get fired. And then she just, like, constantly is tweeting about it. I don't know what other platform she uses.

Every time she's making news, it's on Twitter. And she's just always, like, saying stuff. Got it. Yeah, well, that's the latest beef. Damn, I didn't know that. Mm-hmm. I love that Andy called her out. Our fifth and final story is a quickie

because Kevin Jonas undergoes a surgery to remove his skin cancer and he said it's a reminder to get your moles checked. It is. Ugh, I gotta do that. Yeah, I feel like we have at least one story, two stories a year about this and it's like a reminder for us a reminder for us to remind people because he just underwent surgery

to remove a skin cancer he said so today I'm getting a basal cell carcinoma removed from my head he moved the camera to show the mole at the top of his forehead and continued yes that is an actual little skin cancer guy that has started to grow. And now I have to get surgery to remove it. So here we go. Damn. Well, we're for all Shalima. And thanks to the reminder, I got to get that full body check. It's so uncomfortable. Like seriously, it's so awkward, but it's beyond necessary.

And every time I do it, I feel like such a sigh of relief. Yeah. Yeah. So just a good reminder. Thanks, Kevin Jonas. The show is not over because it's hump day and hump day is a fabulous day here because we have dear toasters our weekly advice segment and dear toasters today is brought to you by splash refresher I'm actually drinking one right here I drink one pretty much every day on

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The whole day. No, when you were at my house, I have so many splash refreshers and my husband loves them and you guys were like fighting over your favorite flavors. You were literally like allocating them like mafia style. Like you can have the mandarin orange. I shall keep the wild berry we can split the grape if you're nice to me and also Zach and I were like extremely suspicious because they have zero calories like there's just no way like we're like we're we're

like what's wrong with them they're so good they literally are too good to be true I like the wild berry flavor the best but shout out to mand extremely good. But you were gracious enough to let him drink those in his own home. I was, I was. Well, I feel like he forgot that they were in the garage. And then when I found them, I put them in the fridge and he was like, where'd you find these? I was like, oh, what did you like to know? Well, he was shocked that there were drinks in the fridge because that's his department and they never wind up there. I have to talk to my beverage coordinator. We have so many at the studio. They're literally so good. And I can't stress enough the fact that they're actually keeping me alive.

Yeah. No, she's finally drinking water. She's radiating, glowing from the inside out, hydrated. And it's crazy because I think this is like how much water when I'm drinking now like normal people drink. Like I'm peeing so much. I have to pee so bad right now at the beginning of every episode and at the end of every episode. Like I have to pee.

That's great. It is great. I feel like I'm flushing out my system and I'm doing it in a delicious and refreshing way yeah everyone needs hacks to get through life whatever it is and if you're someone who struggles to drink water or you want to drink more water taste your water water it can be hard to drink sometimes it really can be like splash refreshers are what we're drinking and then like the internal struggle of being like, oh my God, I need to drink more water. Because obviously being hydrated is so good for like your skin, everything. And like you feel like, does anybody else feel this like sickening, disgusting pressure? And when it's like the end of the day and I realize I haven't drank a lot of water,

like I have a pit. I'm like not taking care of my body. I haven't felt that way. Like the ease at which I just sort of like feel these days because I'm so it's I can't believe and by the way this is a brand I had not heard of prior that's why I love doing this show they were like do you want to try these beverages I was like yeah sure this big thing came to the toast they're gone I discovered and but they sell them everywhere I can't believe I hadn't seen them before every time I do a grocery order they have them everywhere they're so good also on our weight

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for a chance to get advice from two extremely well-adjusted human beings um you can write to us dear toasters at gmail.com or head to to our website, TheToastPodcast.com. You'll be able to get the chance. Hey, Jackson Turney. I need help from a La Toastada. This one is spicy. I'm 35 years old and I'm in a relationship with my PJom boyfriend going on 13 years. I went on his Apple Music playlist recently to change a song the other day. And I saw that he had been listening to and subscribed to a few podcasts about swinging. It's always the PJOM boyfriend right?

Yeah of course. My PJOM boyfriend stabbed me in my sleep last night. Should I be mad? I think you should. We've never discussed this before. Should I be worried that he's gonna do that he's gonna want to do that? Please help. Like, yeah, you don't listen to podcasts. Like people listen to Huberman because they're interested in science. People listen to The Toast because they're interested in celebrities. People listen to podcasts about swinging

because they're interested in swinging. Now I'm going to look at podcasts about swinging just to see if there's another angle here. I didn't know that they had like, that's the thing. That's the amazing thing about podcasting. There's something for everyone. Mr. and Mrs. W are swinging adventures.

Oh, gotta listen. New swingers podcast. We are new swingers merely documenting and discussing our swinger journey and talking about the experiences we're having and the lessons we're learning. I just want to say, like, there is a tiny percent chance, like, this does sound just interesting. Entertaining. Yeah.

But, like, no. You know? No. There's midlife craving. I followed, I didn't follow, this woman came up on my TikTok. She was like, spend the day with me on a swingers cruise. And it was, like, this cruise of swingers, like, taking over this enormous cruise ship. And ship and she was like showing the food and stuff.

And just because you watch it doesn't mean you want to swing. But that does sound like interesting content. There's also Swing Nation. It actually was interesting. I didn't know that there were podcasts for swingers but I also didn't know there was a cruise for swingers. So you truly learn something new every day. Diary of a Swinging swinging couple can we help this girl by the way instead of promoting shows that aren't ours um talk um don't talk to him because no I think you can talk to him you weren't snooping for you to listen to diary of a swinging couple and the toast like I don't feel competitive with them okay for sure but there's not space for your partner to be listening to a podcast about

swinging like I'm gonna draw a hard line here yeah unless it's like you know the new cereal and everyone's talking about it but we haven't have we heard anything no yeah and then I guess you don't want to bring it up to him because you don't want to like you don't want to bring swinging into it I guess swinging the good thing about swinging is like he can't do it without you you know because then that's just like then he would be cheating and he would listen to a cheating podcast like you do it together so he can't go and swing without you so he will have to talk to you about it eventually yeah do you wait for him to come to you like yeah because if you broach the subject then all of a sudden you're like considering swinging before you even had to consider it

yeah but if you give him more time like he's really going to convince himself that this is something that he wants. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And this is absolutely no shade to anybody who chooses to live their life in the way of swinging. It's, you know. Clearly, there's a lot of swingers. But, you know, you shouldn't feel like you have to start swinging because your husband, like, heard it on a podcast, you know. Right.

And it takes two to swing. That's kind of like the whole problem. Yeah. So it's. Therein lies the issue. You have to want to also. I think. And I'm going to assume that you don't.

You just have to like sit and pray. Pray it away. Yeah. Pray the gay away. Pray the swing away. Pray the gay away. Pray the swing away. Pray the sway away. Sorry if that's like not helpful. And seriously, don't do anything you're, it's not, but like don't do anything you're not comfortable with. And seriously, like when he, what's a good reaction to something like this? I think you need to be like really dramatic, like at the absurdity of it all so he feels stupid. Yeah, but then are you yucking his yums? like at the absurdity of it all so he feels stupid like yeah but then are you yucking his yums sorry like we entered into this deal like with monogamy first so it's not a yum it's

unacceptable yeah like seriously if Ben came to me and was like I want to start swinging I'd be like okay so go outside yeah like go on swings like it's so foreign but I guess like in certain you know subdivisions of this country it's actually extremely common yeah they've been together 13 years which does feel premature for what I think I know about swinging you know that party on the OC where they all put their watches in a bowl like they were all older and then Sandy took his watch out and that's what i know about swinging what i know about swinging is from what was i watching oh that terrible show sex life they like go to a swingers party with like this in this like kind of wealthy neighborhood it kind of looked fun but i think people like swing i think they do too and there's like a lot of hidden

signals like swing like if you're at your local grocery store and you buy a pineapple yeah do you know this I think I've seen this what do you do and you put your pineapple

upside down in the grocery cart that like lets other people know it's like a virtue signal like I swing contact me okay but then if you don't put your cart away

they're watching you and they don't want to be friends with you literally they're watching you okay wait this next one is like kind of crazy hey jackson turd love you both so much i'm an og toaster i've got a short and sweet one here a bit of a first world problem but it's really bothering me i travel for work a lot with my ceo about one trip per month just the two of us sounds like i'm spinning a smut novel not Not at all. Ready?

She keeps upgrading her flights to first class. Oh, she. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you thought it was a man. Oh, my God. Look at Jackie's confirmation bias.

Yeah. Okay, so she keeps upgrading. Right, and it's confusing when you didn't say my girl boss and she, oh. Yeah, she didn't use

the CEO pronouns. So my boss keeps upgrading her flights to first class, not using points, using the company card, but not upgrading mine. I made a joke of it the last trip and asked to be upgraded to, and she just laughed. Like, is this rude or am I being entitled? I'm a VP and it's a small company. I think you're not right.

Yeah. Like I guess a VP, like I think you get perks, but every company has like their framework for like how much you can spend on flights, who gets upgraded. Like they literally have in the companies, like only CEOs and VPs get upgraded or can fly first class and directors fly this level.

So it's a small company so maybe they don't have that but like she's the ceo and she's saying like haha it's haha yeah like you tried like making you shot your shot what she said you didn't get fired love the confidence because like it's kind of like a really crazy thing to do and say um you tried you were brutally rebuffed and like you really can't be mad that she's like, she's obviously, well, she's, if she's doing it with the company card, she's well within her legal rights. She's the CEO.

She makes the rules. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and you know, it wouldn't be nice if her, you know, two girl bosses out on a trip traveling solo. Yeah. It would be nice of her to upgrade you, but she has no sort of obligation to do that. And you being mad is yes

to use your words not mine it's extremely entitled and I just want to say like I feel like she's telling her friends like this girl that works at my company just asked why she's not sitting with me in first class like and she's like just be glad like if nothing changes between the two of you yeah like and let me just say like that sucks. You know like to travel with someone and they be in first class and you not. Like sucks. But like you're fine. But no it's not like your friend or your partner.

Like it's work. Right. So it doesn't suck. Right. There's a hierarchy. You're traveling. No like just. No but like from a human perspective.

Like yeah that sucks. Like. Okay. But it's not wrong. No. Our third and final are you ready something i personally have zero um experience with i just i can't do i have experience maybe okay good morning jackson turney i'm a gen z swirly and i need your help i joined an encampment and i don't know how to get. No, I'm kidding.

But I think I'm Gen Z. I just think I'm encampments. Okay. Gen Z swirly. I need your help. I don't know how to get out. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Oh, no. Okay, I'm really fine. I don't know how to get that. But also, like, why are there still encampments? Isn't it summer? Yeah, no. Like tell me you're a loser without telling me you're a loser. Didn't we already have to like suffer through their graduation protests?

Like why are you still on campus? Go home. Okay. I actually really do want to get to this. My fiance thinks that he can sing and I've really never told him that he can't. There was never a reason to tell him, and he was never straight up, like, asking me if I thought he was a good singer. But now he wants to sing at our wedding. Oh, my God.

And I don't know what to tell him. Please help me. Do I tell him that he can't sing? Do I just let him sing? He really wants to, and he thinks it would be really special. I just have to say, like, if I didn't sing at my own wedding, there's literally no excuse for anybody else to. Like I think even if you marry Celine Dion like you shouldn't be singing at your own wedding. Like dead ass. And so the fact that your husband like can't even sing is just cherry on top. I don't think people should be like singing themselves down the aisle. Like I

don't like that. I also think that like how you handle this moment will set the tone for your relationship. Like if you want to be like Simon Cowell in a good way like you could be like listen I love you I'm so excited to marry you you're not singing at our wedding like I think you need to be really strong about it and that also then like gives you runway to like be strong in other areas down the line and other problematic things so I don't even think you need to like cushion this for him like I think it would be set good precedent of you laying down the law yeah no directness is never um a bad thing but you do have to you're right cushion is the perfect word like say it nicely because obviously I'm

saying don't cushion it oh I'm saying just like lay down the law like this is absurd no it is absurd like we're grown-ups we're literally getting married but like how do you tell someone he obviously thinks he has a good voice because he wants to sing at his own wedding in front of hundreds of people so you could start with being like I want you and I to you could try and like do a little lie where it's like I want it to be about you and I if you're singing you're gonna be worried about your performance like thinking you're gonna be backstage like doing sound check when we're supposed to be like having our moments together and I don't want that to take away from our special day so you could like

give a little eye and then if he's like no I really want to and he's like being a baby about it then you could be like and you're not a good singer you're not a good enough singer to sing at our wedding because I'm sure he's fine I just want to say like I like you know think I have a great voice much like this guy I happen to know I'm like very in tune with reality so I know that I do have like I don't have like the best voice ever but I have a great voice, much like this guy. I happen to know I'm, like, very in tune with reality. So I know that I do have, like, I don't have, like, the best voice ever, but I have a good singing voice. Like, I can carry a tune. But if somebody I loved, like you, if you literally sat me down and you were like, Claudia,

do you know, like, this whole time you've never had a good voice? Like, you actually, like, are a bad singer. I actually can't even visualize it because it's so not true. But, like, I would be be crushed I don't think it's necessary to say that I think if you have to get really honest you could say like your voice isn't good enough to sing at our wedding like you're not Andrea Bocelli also Claudia you sang at my wedding and if you remember because I do like it hindered some of your experience you felt like you couldn't start drinking until after your performance you were no and when they told me

I sat down for dinner and they were like you're you're eating after dessert I'm like after dessert you wanted to start having fun like you were nervous you were in there for sound check while other people were having cocktail hour like logistically and so you can say this you can make this the excuse even if he did have an amazing voice like it would take away from his experience on the day there are a million things that you can say this man's not singing at your wedding and you need to put your foot down no and sometimes like really men need to be told like and this might be one of those situations like it's really absurd even if you have like a somewhat good voice like singing at your own wedding I'm sorry it's like top 10 cringiest things you could do yeah I really like making

it about it taking away from his experience on the day because it's so true even if you had an amazing voice yeah it's true it is true I lived it learned from my experience yeah so you do have experience with it all's to say oh it's true it's true um that is dear toasters our weekly advice segment again you can email us deartoasters at gmail.com or head to our website thetoastpodcast.com that is our episode, Jax. It's a pleasure. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast, the Monday morning show. We deliver the Fast Five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube.

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