The Toast - S3 Ep129: Folklore Friday: Friday, July 24th, 2020

Episode Date: July 24, 2020

Folklore Initial Thoughts Review Ellen DeGeneres and Portia De Rossi's home burglarized (Page Six) Larsa Pippen speaks out amid rumored feud with Kim Kardashian (Page Six) Caroline Stanbury Debuts Her New Man on Instagram (Bravo) Hallmark Channel Names Its Next CEO (The Hollywood Reporter) Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Recap Real Housewives of New York Recap The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoproblems) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

you you Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Folklore Friday. Friday. Gonna get down on Friday. It is a fabulous but rainy day here in New York. It is. It's so gloomy behind us.

It looks like we're filming at night, but we are filming the same time as usual. It's because God's crying at how beautiful Taylor Swift's new album is. And I agree with him. It is beautiful. God, that's beautiful he's setting the scene for the mood of the day of listening to folklore um we hope everyone had a great day we have a fabulous show planned for you guys it's Friday and you got any big weekend plans I'm gonna be listening to folklore I have a lot of tv to watch I have to

read the book for the redheads my dark Vanessa if you haven't started it yet it is never too late to join the redheads to get that because you could always start on this month's episode so true or you could go all the way back and catch up with us like we're always there waiting for you always and if you're looking for a fun and educational thing to do during quarantine the redheads is that thing for you now let me ask you it's been you know a couple months since you started your passion project and how's it going i still still am feeling deeply passionate about it. That's by the way that's so important. And you know quarantine was an interesting time for the Redheads because we doubled up to two books a month. I remember. Then we scaled it back once things started to go back

a little bit to normal but we were recording over Zoom which made it a lot more difficult but this month we are recording it together in the studio for the first time in months so I'm just so excited to see where the conversation goes I haven't started the book yet but I've heard a lot of different things about it I think it's a very intense book thanks Dana uh so I gotta I gotta get into it well I too have a lot to do this weekend you know I'm just so busy like so many plans people keep inviting me places it's just, it really is hard to be like this quarantine socialite, but you know, I'm making the best and doing the most that I can. I will be home all weekend doing absolutely nothing. I do have some TV to watch. I need to watch our toast movie of the week, which is

Black Panther, which we'll be recapping on Monday. Also, I think The Kissing Booth comes out this weekend, the sequel. So I'm going to be watching that. I'm going to finish The Crown. I'm just looking forward to spending some real quality time with my bed, even though I do that pretty much every day. It hits different on the weekends. It hits different on the weekends and sleeping in hits so different in quarantine. Like I just count down. I live five days for the two that I can sleep in. Thousand. I wake up five mornings for two. Yeah. Because there is literally nothing quite like waking up without an alarm, waking up five mornings for two. Yeah. Because there is literally nothing quite like waking up without an alarm, waking up and like for a second, you're like, do I have to work? And then it hits you that it's like Saturday or Sunday. Flip back over on the other side of the

bed, take it out. Hopefully your husband already woke up and he's out of the bed and you're just sprawled city. It's, it's incomparable to any real feeling in the world. Better, better than my wedding day, honestly. Like I work so hard and just like live my whole life for that moment, you know? A hundred percent. And everything that I do is to make that moment better, you know, take my worries away. So when I flip over, nothing's creeping into my mind except the smooth sounds of sleep. That's what life is all about. Like those little moments, you know? And you do all the rest of it to make Like those little moments. Yeah. You know? And you do all the rest of it to make sure those little moments are as fabulous as they can be.

So I'll be just like experiencing moments this weekend. Like that's what I'm going to be really busy doing. And I'm so thrilled about it. Yeah. I'm super thrilled. And like if anything comes in the way of me. And that's really why I have such a complicated relationship with drinking. Yes. Because it fucks with my sleep.

But sleep is the most important thing to me. But what complicates is it's that like you work so hard, like let me celebrate with a bottle of wine. They're so similar, yet they are constantly contradicting each other. That is very true. So that's why it's all, you know, it's like a science. No, it's really like a balance. It's a balancing act for sure. And you know, they say that life is a balance. So I guess that's what they were talking about. Yeah. Like drinking enough, but you can still sleep through the night without your body being dehydrated and waking itself up. Yeah. Like at 8am. Okay. So if you guys have figured out the trick to balancing,

please let us know. Please let us know. We have a great show. THEO is here and he chose to sit with his auntie today. So hurtful. I know it's hurtful but like you get him a hundred percent of the time so this is so special for me so I just have like I just have so much more love in my heart today. To give yeah. You know. I feel that. And I'm I'm looking forward to getting his thoughts on folklore. Folklore Real Housewives of New York and Beverly Hills. Yes. We'll recap a little bit since you didn't get a chance to watch yesterday and is that it? I guess so. I guess we just get right in because I think the only thing we really want to talk about today is folklore.

So without further ado, it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you need to know. Yep, you. Before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. And that's true. One thousand percent. Did you lie? No. But I think maybe you forgot that today is Friday.

And what we've been doing for the last couple Fridays is highlighting black-owned businesses. And I am so excited about today's because not only is it a black-owned business, it is a black toaster-owned business called August Onset. When newly engaged toaster Elena, congrats, and her fiance Sean found themselves cooped up quarantining at her parents' house, they quickly needed new activities to keep them occupied. They ended up looking into candle making for a fun and relaxing date night at home. They ordered supplies, opened the wine, and found themselves lost in creating scents and discovering the perfect combinations. After honing all the plenny, toasty vibes, Elena's finished product quickly caught the attention of her family members with their warm, welcoming, and unique aromas.

She started creating candles for her friends, extended family members, and members of her community, receiving dozens of new requests as more and more people found out about her candles. Before they knew it, Elena and Sean were spending hours making batches of candles, sending them to anyone who asked, and anyone who knew they needed a pick-me-up. Together, they created August Onsetust onset assorted candles luxury candles at an affordable price how many times have you been strolling the aisles of an overpriced store and or home goods you know no shade but that is one of my favorite stores um when the inviting

scent of a delicious seasonal candle stops you in your tracks you say to yourself i need this candle but then you look at the price only to be shocked and disappointed why is this candle expensive as fuck? You do try to justify it, but you end up putting it back down, knowing that it's ridiculous and not worth it. August Onset, on the other hand, will not disappoint. They offer the perfect candle, chic, affordable, and convenient, with scents that permeate the whole room without overpowering it. August Onset was created by a passionate toaster

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Again, that's www.AugustOnset.com. Luxury candles at an affordable price. Thank you, Elena and Sean. Thank you. Everyone support. I'm so excited. I love that idea. Me too.

Okay, I'm sorry. You were saying first story folklore has dropped what are our initial thoughts oh my god there's so many like i truly don't know what to say take it from the top and take your time you're our resident stan and and we want to hear from you so at midnight i watched the cardigan music video first and i always find it really interesting the songs that taylor chooses to either like make music videos for or make singles because I don't usually agree with the selection and I do feel the same way about Cardigan um it wasn't the song that like I was immediately drawn to on the album but she has her ways and we'll figure out like what what the point was the music

video was sickeningly stunning and filled with metaphors. Like the piano just kept saving her life, which is like so Taylor, like the music saves her. And I was really impressed that they were able to put it together during quarantine and clearly so fast because it was like mystically, it was just visually stunning with the ocean and then the ferry and the piano bench. Like it was just beautiful.

But I felt very anxious because I didn't know if I should listen to the album or watch a music video live on YouTube oh but did you watch live with the other fans yes honestly it was annoying because every time I turned my phone to the side I kept getting people's comments and it was like flooding so fast and it was taking up half the screen that's so annoying you should have watched on your tv or oh totally or just my computer um but it was a really fabulous well done music video um and then I went into the album and the first thing I noticed about the album well first of all I could not find

it on iTunes but it was it's on iTunes this morning but iTunes just took a long time Spotify there's an explicit explicit version she curses a lot really yes I mean because it opens with a curse I'm on some new shit yeah but then there was more like I actually was like it's kind of I remember when we were recapping lover and we were talking about soon you'll get better and we were talking about the line I pray to Jesus and it's just like I never thought I would hear Taylor Swift say Jesus like I know she's Catholic or Christian but like I just never thought there would come a day where I heard Taylor Swift say Jesus um and that's how I feel about like her cursing it just it feels so different but I don't dislike it I like it a lot what I noticed first was that the album was released as an alternative

album like in the alternative genres which makes makes this the third genre she has conquered and I just think that's so impressive you know this whole thing it's just so impressive to me like the genre the songwriting like I mean that's always been like her thing and like what she has in my opinion over other artists is her ability to like storytell and write songs about like things that might not even be about her like the last great American dynasty which I believe is about the couple who lived in her Rhode Island house before she bought it yes I think I mean that's what it sounds like from the lyrics yeah and it's just like to me and I was like going so hard with Ben last night like

just being like you believe like she wrote a song about that he was like yeah, yeah, it's great. But to me, like that is so impressive to be able to like story tell about something that has nothing to do with you is crazy. Yeah. And another thing that stood out to me is that we have a full blown

country song on the album and it's Betty. Like there's like a banjo. Like it's what we've been waiting for. I mean, I've been waiting for like a whole country album, but you know, us country stans will take what we can been waiting for. I mean, I've been waiting for, like, a whole country album. But, you know, us country stans will take what we can get from Taylor Swift. There is, like, a full-blown country song.

And it really sounds like her old school, like, Tim McGraw vibes. And I'm just, like, living for it. When I first listened to an album, I had such a hard time, like, differentiating what song is which. Yeah, they are very similar. It's a similar aesthetic for all of them. But that's what makes a great album. Right.

Some of the immediate standouts to me are Illicit Affairs, which is just so beautifully written, even though I don't know if Taylor Swift has ever been in an affair because that's so not her, but maybe she has. Who knows? Illicit Affairs stands out. Betty stands out. The Last Great American Dynasty stands out.

Seven stands out. I really don't know the album well enough to make grand statements, and Dynasty stands out. Seven stands out. There's, I really don't know the album well enough to like make grand statements and I don't want to do that. I just want to say that it's really beautiful

and coming off of Lover, which was like so pop, so dancey, Ben was like, where's the fast songs? I'm like, this is an album, Ben. Like,

pay attention, please. Yeah, no. He was frustrating me so much last night. Finally, he fell asleep um but and that was great like for lover like there was dance pop like it was so much and now this is

a total departure from that this is very much like a massage playlist um and I love that for her I love slow songs honestly I like songs slow songs just as much as I like fast songs yeah and some vibes require slow music um and I just I I think it's really, really beautiful. But I don't, I haven't spent, I've only listened to it one and a half times fully. I haven't spent enough time to like make grand statements on it. But it's beautiful.

Yes, it's beautiful. So is it what you expected or way different? Completely different. Really? Well, I didn't even know what to expect. I got no warning like all day yesterday. I had no idea. It wasn't really what I expected but I thought that you made a great observation yesterday saying that it would

be a lot of Archer vibes because I agree it was very Archer-y. Like it does a lot of the songs feel like 80s like ballads which is always what I thought about Archer. When I was listening to August which is one of my favorite songs it was starting to remind me of like 90s music where it was like very you know whiny yeah or was like I will go down with this ship yes 100% like Alanis Mars set almost well so she has the same engineer or something as Lana Del Rey's Norman fucking Rockwell album and I definitely and Lana Del Rey is like the alternative artist I believe so there are definitely um like nods of Lana Del Rey in there and it's just a total departure from anything Taylor's ever done it's not country it's not pop it's a whole different genre and it's just to me like it's just the whole thing is like hi I'm

Taylor Swift and like I put this album together in three seconds and like here's why I'm impressive like the whole thing is just very impressive to me'm Taylor Swift. And like, I put this album together in three seconds. And like, here's why I'm impressive. Like the whole thing is just very impressive to me. Like a total different genre. How fast it was done. The storytelling, like the lyrics. To me, like her and Kacey Musgraves are the greatest lyricists of our time. In the way they tell stories and have the ability to like, some like with some of the songs, I really felt like I was watching a movie.

Like I was picturing it all in my head. Like her in Rhode Island or this random couple in Rhode Island like it she has an uncanny ability to like paint a picture with words which is unfortunately not something I can do but it's really a major talent yeah I'm I'm like three quarters of the way through the album it's just an easy enjoyable listen yes you know what it's like as much as she's changing and it's now black and white and it's you know this whole new vibe and it's alternative like it's so tailored to me you know and I feel like I was expecting something completely different like even her using more instruments or like synths that sound more like of the music that's being made today like Lennon Stella vibes but no it, it's just, it's her, you know?

She can't help but be herself. And that's why we love her. And that's why like her country albums, her pop albums, and her now alternative album all have the same like DNA, even though they sound and look completely different. But speaking of the instruments, what I found to be so interesting

was the broad range of instruments. Like Reputation was very electric, like made on a laptop. And to me, this was the broad range of instruments. Like, Reputation was very electric, like, made on a laptop. And to me, this was, like, made in a grassy field with a banjo. There were so many strings. Yeah, like, on her guitar. Yeah. And I cannot wait to hear some of these acoustic.

Like, it's, I just, I feel like I can't even speak on it. Like, I don't know her that well right now, you know? I need more time. Yeah, we knew you would need time, but we also love to get initial thoughts. The initial thoughts are that it's just, it's such a treat, it's a pleasure to listen to, and she's done it again. It's a treat, it's a pleasure to listen to, and she has done it again. So well said, Jackie. Great. Well, I'm happy for you and the big day that you have today, and the weekend where you'll get to spend listening to it. A lot of people requested a Snitch on the Toes situation today, and we tried to get her. Unfortunately, she was too damn busy for us.

She was up all night recording YouTube reactions for her YouTube channel, which honestly I can't wait to see. She's just so cute. But she did tentatively say she would come in on Monday to share her thoughts, so we could all have another debrief on Monday with some of our more concrete thoughts after spending the time. I think that's fair. I think that's fair as well.

Okay, next story. Ellen DeGeneres in Portia de Rossi's home was burglarized. Do you hear this? Um, no. The Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office is reporting that Ellen in Portia's Montecito home was burglarized on the 4th of July. Bursch's Montecito home was burglarized on the 4th of July. Quote, high-value jewelry and watches were reportedly the items taken from the home, which deputies said was targeted because of its status as a known home to celebrities.

Right. Forensic technicians and detectives are apparently working the scene. The Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office also tells KUIT that they're coordinating with other law enforcement agencies to ascertain if the Montecito burglary may be connected to other celebrity break-ins in the area wow a bling ring someone call Alexis Nyers yeah so is this the home where she's been filming I don't know you know like this kind of doesn't surprise me that like Ellen was targeted because she's been like being dragged in the media recently and so many so much of like the resentment people have for her is that like she tries to be relatable and she like lives in this palace in Montecito and I've actually seen pictures of this house in Montecito um being passed around on Twitter a lot recently so it's like the home immediately became

a target when like Ellen became like a joke in the media um and nobody deserves to be burglars burglary is wrong and this is it's so scary like the feeling of someone being or having been in your home is my worst fucking nightmare yeah for sure but if this is the home she's been staying in I guess if she wasn't there and it was burglarized then she's not under house arrest guys oh very good call Montecito California right right I do think that's the home that she was saying is but there have been a reported string of celebrity homes in LA that have been hit including Alanis Morissette wow two times we said Alanis Morissette on the show today Nicki Minaj Rihanna Emmy Rossum Jamie Presley David Spade and Christina Milian have been targeted by the thieves wow someone is trying to

get a Sofia Coppola movie made after them and trying to take over Alexis Nair's legacy. And it's not cool, guys. Burglary is not cool. No, this is not cool. Even if it's a famous person. Like, it's not a victimless crime, you guys. Not at all. Okay, next story.

Something that people have been talking a lot about. Didn't really care too much, but here we are. Larsa Pippen is speaking out amid her feud, rumored feud with Kim Kardashian. Larsa Pippen seemingly chimed in on rumors she and Kim Kardashian are besties no more. This week, fans noticed the KKW Beauty founder and her sisters, Kourtney and Khloe,

do not follow Larsa on Instagram. Anymore. In response to the social media scuttlebutt, Larsa posted a cryptic note alluding to her possible removal from Kim's inner circle. She wrote, quote, I woke up this morning blessed and see that everybody is focused on who I am following and who I am not following on social media. I'm focused on my children, my new fitness brand, Larsa Pippin Fitness, and my relationships in real life, praying that everybody finds peace in their own lives and focus on what brings

them happiness. Okay, I feel like this isn't the first time I've read this story that Kim Kardashian unfollows Larsa Pippen. Oh really? Yes and a while back people were like Kim's not following Larsa and I went to who Kim follows and like she follows a very skeleton crew of people but it was even at the same time when Larsa was on the show with them. I don't think there's much going on here other than Kim is just like following her close family and like I totally disagree oh I totally disagree I think there's something totally going on here and I read something I think on e-news yeah I read it too someone gave a statement just being basically being like no blood blood they're just like in different stages in their life Kim is focusing on all of her projects and getting her family healthy. And Lars is focusing on whatever it is that she does. Kim has been focusing on her various projects and her family for the last 10 years.

No, that was definitely a lie, but I 100% in their own ways, they both like weirdly addressed it. I definitely think there's something going on. I don't think so. Because they were like ride or die. She was like really inner circle. Like, and for a long time. And now that I think about it, like I haven't really seen anything about her. And someone noticed that they all unfollowed her. There's weirdness there. There's weirdness. Kim hasn't followed Larsa for a long time.

And I know because I checked a while ago. And she wasn't following her. So she didn't just unfollow her as far as I'm concerned. There's weirdness there. But I guess we'll see. We'll see if she's on the next season of keeping up yeah because she was a resident I think that she she's like a day one friend I and they keep those people close I agree there's nothing going on oh I think there's something going on especially given the fact that like she is a day one friend and I just think there's like they both also Kanye tweeted just the tweet Larsa and then deleted it there's something going on 100% I'm not really upset she's not my favorite like

Kardashian inner circle best friend I could live without her I actually really like her the episode where it was like a showdown between her and Sarah on Turks andicos. Oh my god I was so team Larsa. I was team neither of them because I didn't relate to either of them like that girl Sarah was like a little too stuck up and Larsa was being like a little bit too much of an animal. I like I'm not an animal personally so maybe that's why I can appreciate it in others you know. I am an animal and I know my limits and Larsa totally crossed the line. I just like there's always one friend who's an animal and she deserves respect someone's got to do it yes I I agree someone has to be the animal and that is Larsa when there's such like a timid and shy and like reserved girl in the group like you've got to like know your place and like read the room I disagree

that girl was being so annoying and she needed. But she's like Kourtney's friend. And like that's what Kourtney is. Honestly, that girl was a lot like Kourtney. It was literally like Kourtney versus Khloe. Larsa versus Sarah was Kourtney versus Khloe. Yeah. That was a good episode. I miss TV.

I know. I miss Kardashians. Me too. This season just like ripped in half. And now we're just like sitting here. Waiting. Okay. Speaking of TV, Caroline Stanberry has debuted her new man on Instagram. in half and now we're just like sitting here waiting okay speaking of tv caroline stanbury

has debuted her new man on instagram you are obsessed with carol obsessed with her when she was on ladies of london i was definitely like into her but like i have you know the show has been canceled i have moved past it and i i don't really turn around very often and if i do honestly it's not to like check in on caroline stan Stamberg's love life. I thought she was married. She was married. Her and her husband, Chem, have split, unfortunately. They had a really cute marriage. But yesterday, she posted on Instagram with her new man, who's a former pro soccer player. Oh.

And he's really cute. And I just absolutely love her. I've been following her since Ladies of London. And she's just, like, still so relevant, considering she's not on a television show. Yeah, because she, like, hangs out at Lindsay's Mykonos Bar with Nicole Scherzinger. She's everywhere. She's also, like, in LA. She's such on a television show yeah because she like hangs out at lindsey's mykonos bar with nicole scherzinger she's also like in la she's such good friends with larsa is she yes they're always in dubai together and then when she comes to la when caroline comes to la she's always with larsa so as our resident caroline stan barry um is she living in dubai or she was back in london now she's living in dubai

oh so she must have liked it even though she in London now? She's living in Dubai. Oh, so she must have liked it even though she moved there for her husband's work. Yes, but I think because the whole family got situated there, she wasn't going to move them again. Yeah. And I think she really likes it because she's always doing fabulous things there. And she is like rich, like European, and that's where she needs to be in Dubai. Yeah, but she's always traveling, you know? Yeah, I know. Here she is on a helicopter with her man the world oh he's cute I told you the world is her home yeah she's a citizen of the world truly a global citizen she's a lady of London but a citizen of the world love that that should be her Instagram bio totally no yeah I just I don't really keep up with her um from ladies of London who I weirdly do keep up with is Juliette you do because she

like really turned like that she was like a weenie on the show she was so not memorable but she turned her little stint on reality tv into like a full-blown career in fashion she's like a well respected blogger in wherever she lives and she like goes to a bunch of like Paris runway uh fashion week London Milan and I think it's impressive honestly the whole cast was so iconic like also Caprice Caprice who was in the news recently because she went on a date with Prince Andrew and she sat on the iron on the iron throne on the throne naked there was like it came out no no no she just like sat on the throne she was like in the castle because she was like trying to impress her yes and then there's Marissa Hermer oh yes who we met was so nice so lovely

and then there's you know um there's the other Caroline with a d Caroline Fleming Fleming who because she's from Denmark and she's royalty so like always fabulous and then there is the one hold on just give me one minute because when I say this you're going to be triggered okay oh well by the way then there's also um Annabelle who passed away very tragically last year that was crazy very very tragically okay then there is also who wait I need I'm sorry Sophie Stanbury she she does like Bombay hair ads on instagram i don't know if things are going as well for her as they are for the other ladies but i wish her well yeah hold on who say no i know the woman's name but when i say this one mapperton oh god julie she was the woe-diest woe ever earl of sandwich she was the worst she was the worst but you know what like as far as bravo shows go oh my

god i'm so glad you brought this up do you know what i watched yesterday nyc prep okay jackie are you okay after it it was actually traumatizing like what a piece of shit it was first of all these kids are such losers oh my god like the way they took like yeah i have money like yeah i have a credit card with no limit like yeah like you could die from how cringy it was and like none of them were really like cool or interesting and like they just thought they were so cool like I'm sure like it's the biggest regret of their lives individually going on that show because I did a lot of research like where are they now almost all of them live very private lives like they don't really they're not like Instagram influencers like they really like they all got married and just like I think that this is like a shit stain on the underwear of

their life well I think when they joined the show they thought that they were going to be the real life gossip girl they were going to be what Laguna Beach was to the show the OC they would be the Lauren Conrad of New York City well let me tell you why it could have never been that none of them were actually cool and two they made this whole cringy like divide between private school and public school because one of the main cast members Taylor goes to public school she was cute the cutest and so nice and so like normal except the way she spoke to her mom was just so painful um but like she would be like I mean that's my ex-boyfriend from public school and it's like really hard it was it was really just like so painful to watch um but oh what I was

saying is that like so with NYC Prep like they totally miscast that show like none of those people were actually cool I'm sorry like and I stand by that some of them did have a lot of money but that doesn't make you cool like at all yeah um So I feel like in a lot of these types of shows, like, they really miscast, even in The Real Housewives of New York, like, none of them, if it weren't for the show, are really, like, well-known socialites or, and I feel like in Ladies of London, they, like, absolutely nailed it. Like, every single person was more interesting than the next. They all had so much money. They all had the connections to royalty or the London social scene. Like they were all legitimately famous in London.

And I'm really surprised that show didn't work out. I know. Well, I think the reason why it didn't work out ultimately is because Caroline Stanberry was like the kingpin of the show and she moved out of London. And they also ran her out of town because they were trying to take her down. They turned on her. And I'm sorry, just like that she's not that. She's not that.

She was so fabulous. She was on another level and they were trying to call her out for acting better than them. But it's like, no, no, no, no. She's better. She just is better. Yeah. No. Also, that first season where she ran that fabulous gift guide company and she had that

sickening office. And then her country home. She was really everything. And they were all really everything of the sort. And they just got even caprice who like i had never heard of she was famous like big time in london and i feel like the show was so perfectly cast and i'm like it makes me sad that it never got picked up fully because it was like a blimp on the radar honestly i think it might be on peacock it's worth watching if you've never seen it oh my god you guys it is so so good you're gonna fall in love with carolinebury. Follow her on Instagram and find out

that she's got a new man in her life. And she's super fabulous. Totally. Okay fifth and final story is a little entertainment biz news. Hallmark Channel names its next CEO. Hallmark Channel has found its next leader. Former TV One chief Wanya Lucas, has been tapped to serve as president and CEO of Crown Media Family Networks, a subsidiary of Hallmark Cards, Inc. Lucas, who will begin her post on August 10th, will report to Hallmark Cards CEO Mike Perry. Lucas takes over the role previously held by Bill Abbott. He was the executive who was pushed out in January following a particularly fraught holiday season when they removed that commercial featuring a same-sex couple. That was so lame. Like if you're gonna approve the

commercial just like approve it. That was just. That was like the most poorly handled like media misfire in the history of television. Agreed. Lucas will be charged with accelerating and growing Hallmark TV's brand, its strategic direction, day-to-day management, and growth of its three linear networks, Hallmark Channel, Hallmark Movies and Mysteries, and Hallmark Drama. I'm unfamiliar with Hallmark Drama. What the article fails to note is that she is a black woman, which I think will be fabulous because Hallmark movies are notoriously, you know, very narrow in their casting.

It's always like, you know, a small town little white girl. And I think that there's a real opportunity for growth here. And I think having a female black CEO is going to be great for Hallmark. I totally agree she's also a huge fan of Hallmark she said Hallmark has been central to my life since I can remember starting with those Hallmark Hall of Fame movies that were as enriching as they were entertaining. Oh she sounds smart. She said I mean you know a Hallmark stan is is a stan of mine and or I'm a Stan of a Hallmark Stan. Any Hallmark Stan? I Stan. Good. And so I'm so excited to see what she does with Hallmark you know there's always room to grow and

I think there's a lot of legitimate criticism surrounding the Hallmark channel and so I look forward to a different sort of countdown to Christmas this year. Have you been watching any Christmas in July movies? You know what I turned one on the other night but it was Candace Cameron Bray and I just do not subscribe like there's no I have no tangible problem with her it's just like she doesn't get me in the Christmas spirit I agree um so I I didn't continue on yeah um I don't know if I even get the Hallmark channel I've literally I only watch it when I'm like on vacation with you yeah so I don't get the Hallmark channel on YouTube TV but I have all of the different apps, the Hallmark,

you know, um, the Hallmark channel. Then you have the home, like the movie subscription. Yeah. And then they have this app that has all these different Hallmark movies. Um,

not always the ones that I, that I want to see, but I make it work. You do make it work. Who was that? Um, Hallmark star we interviewed on the red carpet, CMA with the red hair.

She was, she's a star. She's a classic Hallmark. Who's your, like, okay, so if you turn on a Hallmark movie and you see Candace Cameron Bure, like, you're out. Yeah. Who do I stick around for? Yeah.

Or, like, who else do you turn off? Oh, who else? Gretchen Wieners. Would you keep? I love Gretchen Wieners. Okay. I really don't like any of the Full House people. I know that they sometimes have, like, Stephanie and DJ. They used to have Lori. Oh they used to have Lori

and they're all part of the Hallmark family. I am not into them. I guess I'm just like not so into full house. I'm not either. I am definitely not into fuller house. Yeah no I'm out on that but I would say the people that I really like are Gretchen Wieners, Jessica Loundis. She's from, she was on 90210. She's sickeningly, stunningly beautiful. Sickeningly, stunningly beautiful. She's been in a few really good ones. Oh my God.

When I was at Hallmark to do their podcast, they, I had said, I don't know, on my stories or on the show once that like, I was trying to watch Becca Tobin's Hallmark movies, and they gave me two flash drives with all of her movies on them, and I haven't watched them yet. That's so nice. I know. She's perfect for it, by the way. I know, and I need to watch the Becca Tobin movies.

And when we were on their podcast, Lady Gang, or they were on ours, we asked her what it was like, and she said it is the last network you can do a movie for that treats you like a megastar. The trailer, she said it is. You're so well taken care of. And it's like glamorous old Hollywood, which you just love to hear that they really take care of their talent.

Definitely. It makes you just stand even harder. And so I'm just I'm looking forward to Countdown to Christmas. I haven't been participating in Christmas in July, but you never know. It's never too late. I know that it's like kind of early, but you never know. It's never too late. I know that it's like kind of early, but I'm really excited for the holiday season. I'm one of those people who like lives for the holiday season when the holiday season, like after Christmas and like a little after New Year's, like I do get like in a little bit of a slump.

I love like Christmas in New York. I love all like the aesthetic. I love Christmas trees. Like I really do love the traditions and like the cultural traditions of Christmas. Cause like, obviously we're Jewish. Um, and I'm excited. Like I know that it's, it's already August. So like we have, you know, Halloween, Thanksgiving, and then we're there. Yeah. It's exciting. And we've been in a slump all year, so I don't, I'm not, I don't fear the post-Christmas slump. Right. No. And it like, if there's one time of year where I wouldn't mind being quarantined, it would be like a snowy Christmas with like eggnog and a tree.

Right. It's just something to think about. Okay. It's going to be a great, anyways, it's going to be a great Hallmark season. Yes, thanks to their new CEO. Okay, let's dive into the TV recap segment, which is brought to you by our Patreon channel, patreon.com slash morningtoast. If you are looking for more episodes from us,

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Okay, should we just recap Beverly Hills quickly before New York? Just tell me what your thoughts were. So my thoughts were very similar to yours. I thought it was a great episode. One of my favorite moments was when Garcelle and Sutton went to dinner. And you know Sutton started off extremely weak and strange. And she's just become just a great asset. It would be nice if she were a main cast member so we could see more of her personal life like we've never really seen the inside of her house but that's her boyfriend like he just shows up places yeah we don't know that much about her but it's because I think Bravo's

telling us like don't get invested in this woman like she's not gonna be sticking around because like her husband didn't sign the paperwork right uh so that's a bummer but I just I loved the conversation between her and Garcelle yeah but what did you think about Garcelle asking her how much money you have where'd you get your money like I'm very um I'm like Garcelle like I'm not afraid to ask questions but I don't think I would ever ask someone that it was weird. Like I understood what she was saying she's not asking like how much money do you have it's it's sort of like she could have asked a million roundabout questions to arrive at that at that answer like it's just where's your your source of income that's kind of like asking someone what do you do for work you also like literally could have googled it like that's how

we found out what Sutton does for a living you know what I mean yeah it was weird I mean but that's also true friendship like just being able to ask real questions I didn't think it was you know it wasn't like asking about money in the way that you that's like the worst kind of way to ask about it she was just asking as a friend like listen I want to be your friend just what tell me your deal no I totally disagree I thought it was so weird oh I like I it didn't bother me did you find like the setup for Brandy to walk into Kyle's house to be so staged and weird I did I did and I wonder who put it all together you know if it was Kim talking to Kyle, saying Brandy has something that she needs to share with the group.

If it was producers who figured it out, I would like to know. And I also would like for them to stop pretending like these things are happening naturally. Just be honest with us. Like, if Kyle heard from Kim that Brandy has something to say that affects the group, like, just say that.

Thousand percent. Like, we're all adults here. Agreed we are all adults here. We can handle the truth. But didn't did you get like a little choked up with with Brandy like I really never saw her be like so raw and like open. Yeah I really felt for her but then also you said that Teddy was like what the worst person she could have told because she just like didn't have her mouth was like a gap. But I also felt like now Teddy is in charge of relaying this information to the rest of the group. And I already see how she's botching it. Oh, yeah.

Even in the way like she was telling Lisa Raina, like the second they got like, wait till you get to the hotel. Yeah. And also like the story isn't necessarily about the fact that Brandy and Denise hooked up, you know, because that's their personal business. It's the way that Denise like made like kind of lied to Brandy know because that that's their personal business it's the way that Denise like made like kind of lied to Brandy and said that it's about made it into a fair between between Denise and Aaron and is it open or is it not if it's not then Denise cheated it's not so

much like they hooked up you know it's the she made like it's the surrounding circumstances that just speak to the fact that maybe Denise isn't who they think she is right um do you think that Brandi was lying when she relayed all the information that Denise like all the shit Denise allegedly talked about the women like she's trying to get out of her dad's shadow Erica's a cold-hearted bitch like do you think that stuff was real I do think it was real because her saying that about Teddy like what's where's the lie um her saying that and I think she said that about Rinna after their latest conversation and after she realized Rinna is not a friend to her no she's not so yeah I don't like Lisa Rinna that seems I don't know what the crime is there and then it did make me

sad that she had that to say about Erica me too but maybe even that could have been just sort of like a miscommunication where she's just like, well, Erica's cold, you know? And it goes from being cold to cold-hearted bitch. Yeah. I just don't see what Brandy would get out of lying about any of this. So I really do believe everything she said. Me too.

But then there is also, you know, it's not even that I think she might be lying, but from Denise's point of view, things might be different, which is why it's worth, you know, hearing her just because Brandy said one thing. That's her perception of everything. And that's her, like, her perception

of the things that Denise said about the other women. And if you were to ask Denise and she were to explain it, like, it wouldn't be so harsh, perhaps. So the jury's still out for me and Denise. On Watch What Happens Live, Ted, not Teddy, Dorit was on and Andy said,

Lisa Rinna tweeted that the reunion was bullshit. Do you agree? And Dorit said no. So I feel like Lisa Rinna might like get it a little bit at the reunion for something. Interesting. From what I understood, it was Rinna was pissed

because I guess they can't really talk about the Denise stuff or they can't talk about something. So it's bullshit if we're going to have a reunion and not mention it all. I feel that hardcore. But if Dorit didn't feel that way. But also we know that Dorit is a Denise. Stan. Stan apologist and might be feeling like, no, this isn't appropriate for us to talk about that way.

Like, therefore, it's not bullshit. Right. talk about that way like therefore it's not bullshit right you know I actually like that Dorit um seems to like really be staying in the middle of it all while also being supportive of Denise and like making Denise feel like she's not a hundred percent isolated from the group yeah so it was a good episode right no it was a really good episode definitely makes you think definitely sets it up for a great trip trip and yeah I mean it'll be interesting to see how Denise figures it out but like what they were trying to the overarching argument is like Denise is not who she says she is she pretends to be one person on the show when she is like a whole other person in real life and I just I don't think it's

that simple you know me neither and I don't think if that was were true like that's the craziest thing ever like the person that Denise was last season like she was so laid back so casual like she really didn't care I liked that about her a lot and I don't think that she was putting on now they're trying to make this divide between like she you know was covering up for last season where she was like so open and now she wants to seem more you know conservative and talk about the children and I just I don't see it that way she was super open when the kids weren't around now the kids are around so we gotta just tamper it down but you know who is doing that like using this season of the show to like change their image is Ramona Singer I really saw such a parallel in the two episodes the one from last night and then the

episode of Beverly Hills because Ramona has decided I'm transitioning to New York now Ramona has decided that she no longer wants to be, like, this trash, drunk, like, really what the show has been for the last few seasons, like, messy older women being messy. And she has now decided, like, she's going to elevate it. But she didn't tell anyone of her plans. And she is, like, really being annoying about it. Yeah, okay.

I feel like people are not going to like what I have to say about last night's episode of Real Housewives of New York. Cause as much as like Ramona is, as much as I personally would do what Leah was doing at her party and dance and, you know, Ramona was being dramatic, like the way that the women were talking about her the day of her party, like leading up to her party, like, why are you going to celebrate this woman? And the fact that when you look at it and everybody dressed came in the dress code for Ramona and the women just completely ignored it they have absolutely no respect for her it's like why are you there and I feel like for Ramona it's like listen you girls are my co-workers you were my like trashy co-workers and you're not my real

friends and I understood now why last year she didn't invite any of the girls she did not want that mess of course and i totally agree i think like dorinda luann and sonia sitting in the corner of the party being like she didn't wish me a happy birthday on instagram and this party's not even for me two-year-old they're so wrong if ramona wants to throw herself a lavish birthday party she has every right to do so even though the party ended up looking so trashy like all the red it was so terrible um them literally like stewing in the corner about the instagram post and the larry scott get over it and the fact that like ramona threw herself a

birthday party and didn't pay for it for sonia too that is so unreasonable and i agree like they were acting like animals at the party they were acting like animals and i'm not talking about the leah dancing part it's everything before that the day of like they're in dorinda's kitchen just talking shit about ramona and then it's like you wonder why she doesn't want you around who she who she considers to be her real friends like what's the big mystery there a hundred percent I totally agree and like even when she came over with the purse and they're like that purse is they're just so fucking rude and it's like okay maybe the purse is ugly maybe Ramona is annoying I thought the purse was pretty have some I thought the purse was fine too have some decency like you're still in a public event like no they have no self-awareness no

self-awareness and then when Sonia is like stepping on the on the glass trade thing like you're proving you're proving Ramona to be right right and that's exactly what Leah was saying on Watched Rap Watched Rap and I was so weird last night because they. I watched the first five minutes and I could see what was going on. The comedian Michelle Buteau who's very funny but who obviously like I just don't think like she likes Leah. And she wasn't she wasn't on Leah's side. No for anything and she like kept like contradicting Leah and like almost calling her out. And I think Leah like wasn't expecting it because the first time she did it like Leah was very caught off guard. And I think Leah like wasn't expecting it because the first time she did it,

like Leah was very caught off guard. But it's obvious that Michelle is like a huge Housewives fan and has like knows all the history, knows all the knowledge and really formed strong opinions on it. And she wasn't on Leah's side at all. Yeah. And I think also for Leah, it feels like she's on Watch What Happens Live every week. Every week. I don't think anyone in quarantine has been on Watch What Happens Live at home more than Leah.

Agreed. And I think the response to Leah from the show has been completely overwhelmingly positive. Like I don't know of any housewife who has made such a good first impression on the fellow housewives and the fans. Agreed. And I think this was really the first time where someone told Leah like they didn't agree with her and she was so not expecting it. She was just taken aback. Because every week she comes on Watch What Happens Live and like Leah we love you so fabulous blah blah and for someone to be like actually like it's Ramona's party it's Ramona'sack. Because every week she comes on Watch What Happens Live and like, Leah, we love you, you're so fabulous, blah, blah, blah. And for someone to be like, actually, like, it's Ramona's party, it's Ramona's rules. Right.

She didn't really know what to do. What I felt bad for Leah was that, like, she's new to this group, and as far as she knows, like, these are just a bunch of animals who literally get wasted, fall off of chairs in the Berk chairs, and just do crazy things. So I don't know if Leah was really made aware that, like, this party had to be very different. And I think that, like, she just tries to get along with the group and she follows the lead of the group and the

group is like a bunch of drunken messes like running around New York and so that's what she was doing and while I the dancing was definitely like a little inappropriate Ramona like being like cut the cameras I'm quitting she's so dramatic yeah and it's like it's a birthday party and your your real friends know they see the show. It's on TV. Like, they know that you guys are a bunch of messy messers. And it's not really like a secret. But Ramona trying to just like immediately rebrand herself in two seconds.

Like, that's not how a rebrand works. Yeah. No, it's not. But okay, so maybe that's what she was trying to do last season, which is why she didn't have the women at her birthday party. And she shouldn't have had them this year ass handed to her because of that clip and now you know what I understand why she said because if Sonia came that would mean cameras are coming yep and and she doesn't want to be this person all of the time so this

year she invited the girls and I think in her way that I don't approve of when she was like doing the tour with Leah and she's like you need to protect me like i was like cringe who cares but what she was trying to she was trying to make that distinction i agree and it completely backfired and it like fell flat nobody see the thing with the ramona is like she's a near perfect reality star but what is ruining her and and has been a problem for her throughout the years is that she like lives two lives and she has these 50 girlfriends who are all like very wealthy upper east side women and they would never go on housewives and they don't necessarily like approve of the housewives and so Ramona time after time every season especially around her birthday tries to keep those two worlds separate and they're hard to keep separate because Dorinda knows a lot of the women

uh Sonia knows a lot of the women. Sonia knows a lot of the women. And Sonia just like crying all night that she introduced these women to Ramona is so annoying. Sonia was really annoying me last night. She was acting like a beast. Also, I wanted to mention this. When Dorinda was like being there for Sonia, it proves like so much. Everything that we've been saying about Dorinda this season. Like when someone is doing well, Dorinda this season like when someone

is doing well Dorinda just like has it out for them. Yep. But like she's so sweet to Sonia because like Sonia is clearly struggling so like when Tinsley with Luann like when anytime that Luann is doing well and not shy about it she completely goes for the jugular with Luann but because Sonia is in such a fragile state and when Dorinda like literally gets off on Sonia like sharing her despair with her oh and she draws it out of her like even when Sonia I feel like they were making it a much bigger deal like Sonia getting kicked out of a bar is not the craziest thing the way that these women behave they're always in like a home or a setting, but all of their behavior is worthy. Like Leah with the torches and the swimming

and the bird shears and the throwing. They're always worthy of being kicked. It's probably the first time she was just in a public place doing what she always does. Thousand percent. And I feel like Dorinda was trying so hard to make it seem like Sonya's going through something. I don't think she's really going through anything.

She has a leak in the basement. Yeah, no. It's just like Dorinda likes to be in charge. And so if that makes Sonya feel small, being like, what are you going through anything. She has a leak in the basement. Yeah no it's just like Dorinda likes to be in charge and so if that makes Sonia feel small being like what are you going through and talking to all the women about it before I didn't think there was really anything going on with Sonia. I wasn't that surprised that she got kicked out of a bar. No I didn't think there was much going on with Sonia other than the usual stressors of life. The townhouse. And owning a townhouse and having to do all the things that she needs to do about it but that's not like that's a situational issue agreed you know I think Dorinda's like looking for you know a bigger issue because

that's what she likes she likes to see other people down so she can like feel bigger so she can pick them up and like be maternal and then when someone is big and doing well she has to attack them she's really one of my least favorites I go I swing so back and forth with her because sometimes she's like so funny and so like nails it and it's on the right side of history but most of the time she's an animal who like literally says the most below the belt mean things to people and I really never agree with her decision making yeah me either and she finds a way to make people feel bad for Ramona. Yes. The toast.

The toast at Halloween. It's like Ramona needs no help. None. She is just so outlandish and she holds her own. But it is a true skill to make someone feel bad for Ramona. Agreed. And you know what? I agree with a lot of what you said.

I'm not completely turned on Ramona like all the other women are. And when they go to Mexico agree with a lot of what you said. I'm not like completely turned on Ramona like all the other women are. And when they go to Mexico next week, I think it escalates because really the only big fight right now is literally the world versus Ramona. And I don't agree with that. I don't agree with, I think that Sonia acted very, very poorly at the party and Ramona had every right to be upset. I do think she took it out on Leah, which she shouldn't have. Which she shouldn't have. But how, yeah, I don't, I don't, it's's not so cut and dry I'm not team everyone or team Ramona I a part of me did feel bad for Ramona she worked so hard to make this like a nice event like there

wasn't even a dance floor it was a like a dinner so she she had made very intentional decisions for it not to turn into like a rowdy mess and it obviously ended up yeah I it's like I see whatever what the women say about Ramona like I see how she is all of those things but then they make it worse and you find yourself in a place where it's like listen Ramona's still a person this is her fucking birthday party like behave yeah agreed but I thought it was a great episode actually and I cannot wait I love when the New York women go to Mexico it is just everything of the sort. Yeah, I'm really looking forward. We have two cast trips next week. Oh, yeah, Rome and Mexico. Oh, my God.

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