The Toast - S3 Ep134: Clare Learn Your Lesson: Tuesday, August 4th, 2020
Episode Date: August 4, 2020Tayshia Adams to Replace Clare Crawley on The Bachelorette After Finding Love Early On: Sources (E! Online) Portia de Rossi breaks silence on Ellen DeGeneres scandal (Page Six), Katy Perry D...efends Ellen DeGeneres amid Talk Show Controversy: 'Sending You Love & a Hug' (PEOPLE) James Corden might be 'in line' to replace Ellen DeGeneres: report (Page Six), Twitter is sounding off about who should replace Ellen DeGeneres (NY Post) JoJo Siwa Introduces Her "Amazing" New Boyfriend in Must-See TikTok (E! Online) Dwane 'The Rock' Johnson, investor group agree to buy XFL to $15M (ESPN) The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoproblems) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the morning toast. Happy Tuesday. It is gloomy and
dark here in New York, but that can't stop me from being annoying and in a good mood.
That's true. The hurricane is on its way here. It's supposed to make landfall today.
Is that true?
Yeah, so it's gonna be a stormy day here in New York City, and so I hope everyone is prepared
and staying safe.
Totally. All along the eastern...
Seaboard.
All along the western
he probably thinks it's a real plant oh my god dead that's so cute i'll leave him um yeah let
him live i hope everyone's having a fabulous day staying safe wherever they are we have a fabulous
show for you guys today um kind of short because you know there's was no tv on last night even
though there's a lot to talk about today so much ell Ellen drama. I can't, I've been thinking about it a lot. You know, it's, it's been getting to me. It has been.
Yeah. Do you feel the same way that you felt last time we spoke about it? What did I say last time?
I mean, well, I feel conflicted because, because right. As a real outspoken advocate against
cancel culture. Um, I do feel bad. I do, but it's hard to feel bad for someone like when they're just
so rich and successful. Do you know what I mean? Like it always cancel culture feels sad to me when
it's like someone on the rise or like, I don't know, because you're a private person, right?
Like your success gets taken away from you, you know? So I don't know. I'm feeling very conflicted.
We'll get into it because like they've launched their own campaign and it's so weird, as well as
some other stories, lots of bachelor drama and things of that nature yeah thio is here being p-r-e-s-h
as usual he got a haircut and he's just putting on his best foot forward for this new chapter
in his career yeah i think we should address you know some of the controversy from yesterday's
episode okay i got you know a lot of feedback and people love to give feedback even when you know some of the controversy from yesterday's episode okay i got you know a lot of feedback and
people love to give feedback even when you know you don't ask and a lot of people said that i um
like there was some tension between us yesterday and then i got a lot of questions being like you
and jackie like fight ever before the show and like honestly no we're too tired we're too tired
and to those who maybe didn't get in on the joke we were totally kidding yesterday and sorry if we
made you
feel weird but there was no weirdness i'm assuming the tension the only time i could have pinpointed
possible tension in the episode yesterday was when we were talking about thio and magnolia and what
magnolia has meant to him and we were just speculating on how he might feel about the
situation yes you've spoken to him but i'm very in touch with him emotionally no but also like now
i'm talking like real not not dog language. I'm going to talk human.
Like we were joking.
Right.
Because Claudia didn't speak to Theo.
Right.
No, that was not happening, unfortunately.
I wish.
That's the frustrating thing about being a dog owner.
It's like you put so much time, energy, and love into this person and growing with them.
But at some point they just stop growing.
Because like at least a kid will talk to you and tell you how much they they love you I will never truly know how much you know you know I will never
I can speculate for sure but I will never truly know you'll never truly know but but you do know
and I'm so glad he's back here at work definitely doing meaningful work helps him and his mental
health and it's going to help him be the best cousin he can be and the best doctor so helping
Theo helps the world.
Do you know what I mean?
100%.
Which is so important.
The world is so important.
It's so important.
So it's going to be a great show because we have the spirit of the T-H-E-O here with us.
We have the what?
The spirit of the T-H-E-O here with us.
I thought you pronounced spirit weird for a second, but you got it right the second time.
Yeah.
I learned linguistics from my sister, Snitch.
You know, I took a linguistics class in college, and it was the only class I time. Yeah. I learned linguistics from my sister, Snitch. You know, I took a linguistics class in college and it was the only class I failed. Yeah. I took it with Olivia
because like we were both in college for one year together when she was graduating. I had just
gotten there and we needed like a general requirement class. We thought it'd be fun to
take the class together. And Olivia just like chose one world of linguistics, linguistics of
the world. And it was legitimately the hardest class I'd ever taken. And me and Olivia just like chose one world of linguistics linguistics of the world and it was legitimately the hardest class I'd ever taken and me and Olivia both did terribly but Olivia I think
got like a C but she was the one graduating and if you fail you don't get the credits so I was
happy to take the F and in order to get the F off your transcript you have to take it again and I'm
like absolutely not I I'm not going to like grad school or anything so I don't give a shit about
my transcript and I never returned sometimes it has to be done it was a traumatizing class so everyone was having
a really hard time there was a girl in there it sounds it sounds interesting but definitely hard
because even learning one language is hard so to learn about a bevy of languages and it the
interesting part which I hear was just not at all I was literally like learning I didn't even I
honestly I can't even tell you what the class was about because I did not do one piece of homework or barely showed up.
I mean, so of course it was hard for you.
No, but like Olivia, who's really smart and like did the bare minimum, like really couldn't
get it either.
And there was a girl in the class who was a senior who had a job at JP Morgan.
And I remember after the final, I saw her crying because she like knew she failed and
they keep track of your GPA when you get those jobs.
And she like thought she was going to lose her job.
I don't know whatever happened to her, but I hope she's okay and successful.
I'm sure she's okay. Yeah. So that's why I never worked at JP Morgan. Too much stress. Oh my God. Our, oh, sorry. Our hair bomb
is in the way. We just like to do a little mat before the show. I love a hair bomb. What would
you call that? A shellac? It's a gel. Pomade. Pomade. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Cool. Okay. I think
we can get right into it because we've got a lot to discuss today. And we have nothing to discuss right now. Not that much happened for me
yesterday, personally. Oh, I actually recorded the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast, which was fabulous.
Like, you know, I love to see Rachel Lindsay. It was on Zoom, but Becca, I couldn't see her. She
was like in bad Wi-Fi, so I couldn't see her, but I could hear her. And it was just fabulous. It was
so funny. Like me, I was literally dying the whole time. Like, I don't even know if we spoke about the bath story
because we were talking so much.
You know, Rachel Lindsay came to my show in Dallas.
Yes.
And we had such a good time
and she came with Raven and Alexis.
And I do think that, like,
that was the last time her and Raven
like really ever hung out.
Based on the records.
And the timeline.
It stands that that is the case.
But it was an iconic night besides for that. And like we
all went out afterwards. But Rachel was telling me how she literally got into a fight at my show
because like she was being so loud and like all these toasters around her were telling her to shut
up. And it was just such a funny episode. I don't know when it comes out, but I'll let you guys know
it was just fabulous. Fabulous, fabulous. Great. Well, that's a perfect segue into our first story,
which is one of the big stories of the day. So without further ado, it is time for the fast five
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No, we're still working.
Sorry, we're not done, Theo.
Theo, we're still working.
Get down, get down.
Okay, first story.
Maybe let's get into the tropes.
Good morning, millennials.
Theo, sit down. Okay, first story maybe let's get into the tropes good morning millennials Theo sit down okay first story
Tayshia Adams is replacing Claire Crawley on The Bachelorette after finding love early on
sources tell E! News Claire Crawley is being replaced by Bachelor in Paradise alum Tayshia
Adams on the upcoming season of The Bachelorette which began filming earlier this month as if a
quarantine season of The Bachelorette wasn't interesting enough, there's a brand new leading lady to pass out roses. Claire Crawley is being replaced by Tayshia, multiple
sources tell E! News. Quote, the producers have told her that the season will still lead with
Claire and her short-lived journey and will show Claire falling in love with one of her suitors.
Claire will then conclude her journey and announce that Tayshia is the lead. The shocking update
comes just weeks after production officially began on the 18th season of the ABC dating competition series.
Unlike past seasons where contestants travel around the world,
Claire and the contestants were to remain isolated at a Palm Springs, California resort.
Jeez Louise, it's hot up there right now for the entire duration of filming.
It's Bachelor in Paradise.
Maybe that's why she wants to leave so early because she's fucking hot.
A whopping 42 men were announced as contestants, presumably because alternates were needed,
if any, tested positive for COVID.
Got it.
So we heard the beginnings of this this weekend.
We didn't report on it yesterday because it was still spoiler news.
And it's still reality, Steve.
Like, it's not mainstream.
Yeah.
And I think, you know, we're in no spoiler zone.
So that's not something that we were going to discuss. now that it's you know going to be on the cover of
Life and Style Weekly this week we can talk about it so what it seems like is Claire fell in love
early on with one of her suitors which I think happens for pretty much everyone so there is um
a lot of speculation I know the contestant's name I won't say it because it's not that it matters
um don't say it I'm not but there's a lot of speculation that I know the contestant's name. I won't say it. Cause it's just not that it matters. Um, don't say it.
I'm not,
but there's a lot of speculation that they were in contact and
communicating way before,
just given how this played out,
which that makes so much sense.
She had like four months where she knew who was going on her season.
She's bored in the house,
in the house board.
She could have started her season virtually earlier.
Honestly,
like,
I don't know.
I'm kind of annoyed by this.
I mean,
I'm not annoyed because what we got was Tayshia,
which should have been Tayshia from the beginning.
And we have said on the show,
and we literally asked her when she was on our show,
like, she is, she literally was the Bachelorette
of Bachelor in Paradise.
She was running her own love rhombus
between a million guys.
And that's, like, the result is great.
But I just want to talk about, like, what Claire did.
Because to be
honest like I find this really like disrespectful a hundred percent like this Sean Booth wanted to
wait this article is making it seem like this is such a romantic exciting thing and you know what
ultimately it is because Tayshia is everything of the sort and so I'm happy with what we got but
let's talk about how we got here because everyone falls in
love so early on in their season especially the women they know they give their first impression
rose to the person who they wind up married to like they go through the motions of falling in
love you think Jojo wanted to be with Robbie final two no not only that like at a certain point like
everyone Olivia Caridi said this to us she's like when we were on our season like we were in the airport and stuff we weren't filming everyone knew that Lauren was
winning like it was just clear so these two people are in love you think everyone doesn't want to
quit and run away like that's not how it works and I don't know I feel like this is such a um
like a slap in the face not that I like give a shit about ABC or like production but like
all the lengths they had to go to to like like make this happen during COVID, like took over a hotel, made a, basically a bubble, got all these guys, tested all these
guys. Like it's so much work just for her, like one week or two weeks in to be like, Oh, I changed
my mind. Like, sorry, that's really not how it works. And I get that you love someone, but like,
this is what you signed up for. And to be honest, it really makes me feel like she was undeserving
of the job. Yeah. I agree. Cause it is a job as much as it's a, it's a privilege and it's so amazing, amazing and cool. Like it's
also a job. A lot of people have jobs surrounding it. And at a certain point you become an actress
on the show. You're not in love with 25 guys trying to figure out which one you love the most.
Like you fall for one, maybe two people, and then you fake your way through the rest of it. Of
course. Cause it's TV. Cause it's TV, and that's what we signed up to see.
And I think that her, we'll see the way it goes down,
but from what I got from Snatchler,
who is, you know, close to these sorts of issues,
she said that Claire refused to film,
that she fell in love.
Yeah, locked herself in her room.
And that she was done.
And to me, that's just like so immature.
How old are you?
You're supposed to be one of the older contestants.
You're acting like a 19-year-old. Like, honestly, this leaves such a bad taste in my mouth for Claire. Like, I'm really, I really wasn't, now that's just like, how old are you? You're supposed to be one of the older contestants. You're acting like a 19 year old.
Like, honestly, this leaves such a bad taste in my mouth for Claire.
Like I'm really, I really wasn't now that it's over.
Like I really wasn't that interested in watching her season anyway.
I was actually wasn't going to watch this season and now I'm going to.
So, um, maybe somewhere, somehow like someone did this intentionally.
No, I don't think so.
I'm just like, I'm really disappointed.
And like the lack, not that I, I can't explain.
Like, I don't care like that ABC and just like, I'm really disappointed and like the lack, not that I, I can't explain, like I don't care
like that ABC
and all these producers
who like literally
spend their days
like editing girls
to look bad.
Like I really don't care
that like they,
you know,
lost time and money,
but what,
but like it's just
disrespectful to the institution
that gave you an opportunity
when honestly,
like you didn't really deserve it.
You haven't been on The Bachelor
in 10 years, you know?
Yeah.
I'm just,
I'm a little annoyed,
but I really can't be that annoyed because what we got and what we ended up with is so fabulous and it just proves that it
should have been tation she was overlooked and this is what happens when you overlook someone
are you happy yeah and then also according to the snatchler they're bringing in new guys for tasha
some of the guys who were announced as claire first batch of guys, but that were like really young and then COVID happened.
And so they brought in new guys.
And so some of those original guys will be coming in for Tayshia.
And I hope she gets the full boat of suit.
Like I don't, they can't half-ass any of this.
I don't want to see her in 15 contestants.
I want limousines.
I want the whole full Monty for her.
And it kind of sucks that like she is getting guys who
were cast for Claire because you know they cast differently for every person based on age like
you know what I mean sort of yeah and so I don't know I just I really hope she doesn't get shafted
yeah I that's what I'm hoping to and I also goes without saying now Claire must marry this man and
be with him for 75 years children grandchildren
the whole nine yards the whole nine yards if they're not living together in a nursing home
when they're 90 like I am I'm protesting like I'm upset it's just I don't know something about this
really rubbed me the wrong way it's like how many bachelor bachelorettes I think we're going on like
30 now who have been the leads like you think you're special like everyone falls in love like
it's hard and you see them struggling with it're special like everyone falls in love like it's
hard and you see them struggling with it right especially as it gets like closer and it's like
five people four people yeah that's literally what you signed up for and if you can't handle it then
maybe you shouldn't have signed up for it that is the literal show and yes at sometimes people do
break down that fourth wall even like colton ending his season to go be with cassie but like
he wrote it out till the final three.
Yeah. She was had like 40 guys left and she still decided like, I don't know. I'm just,
I'm not, I'm not happy with her. I'm not going to lie. No, I'm not happy with her either,
but I'm like living for the tea and I'm living for Tayshia. So like, it's,
it's double edged, you know, I'm like mad, but like, I'm not really that mad.
No, I agree. Like, I just, I feel like the point needs to be made, but like, yeah, right. right when I go move on with my day like I'm excited about the new season of The Bachelor I absolutely
love Tayshia I think she will make a sensational bachelorette so like everything fabulous and
inside and out and I'm so excited she she really was the bachelorette of paradise even though
Nicole thought it was her truly it was Tayshiaia. And so she's got the chops to juggle these men.
She has everything.
She's stunning.
She's smart.
She's funny.
She's literally the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life.
She's going to be great.
And it's honestly going to be a great season.
And I'm probably more excited.
And then after this year, we will have had three black leads,
which is a major improvement from the one.
So it's good.
It's good.
But I just wanted to point out the hypocrisy and the lack of respect.
Sorry. Yeah. You know what? In a lot lot of ways I'm very similar to Monica Geller like I just I'm a stickler for the rules you know and like I just think they're there for a reason you know
and you can't follow them you know that's how I feel if you can't follow them like don't play
I completely agree don't hate the player hate the game no out of the game oh yeah but I'm hating the
player no no she she she was hating the players but she shouldn't have been in the game no out of the game oh yeah but i'm hating the player no no she she she was hating the
players but she shouldn't have been in the game she was ill-equipped for the game no she had no
proper training she had no understanding of the rules and she had no business being on the field
no no she was not trained no not at all okay should we keep the metaphor going we i mean we
could we could we always could but we't. We're striking out for now.
Okay, next story is a series of stories in the saga that is the Ellen DeGeneres maybe cancellation.
And I don't want to call it, there's, okay, here's where it's dicey.
And I don't want to call it a cancellation because when you get canceled as a regular,
first of all, there's a level of celebrity where you are uncancellable.
Ellen's there.
Ellen is there.
But there's also, when a person gets canceled, whether it's a digital influencer,
whether it's someone just at their job, like people get canceled in everyday life. And it's, it's about all of the powers that be turning on you. And that's not what's happening to Ellen.
She still has her show. No advertiser has said, we're not going to work with Ellen anymore.
It's every, it's, it's the people on the ground who just have their little voices.
It's not necessarily your average cancellation
where it's a few people who decide that you don't deserve a livelihood anymore.
That's very true and an incredible comparison to make
where it's like for influencers or like reality stars,
let's take like Stassi and Kristen, for example,
like literally Bravo
their podcast networks like the powers that be people in charge decided they were effectively
canceled and then brands that work with them right and so then everyone followed suit like
once Bravo canceled them it was like you're done yeah um but that's true like Warner Brothers is
you know Warner Media has this like fake investigate investigation going on but at the
end of the
day like really the people who are like upset with Ellen and wanting are people who have been
hurt by her yeah or people who just watch her show like people who just know her like I don't
have a network I'm not gonna pull Ellen for my show I'm just like disappointed in her actions
yeah but also the people who have been the loudest right now are people who have been on her show
and have had negative experiences which there
are a lot right so I just want to make that distinction because I'm anti-cancel culture
and honestly I think we'll go through all of this I think ultimately my opinion is going to be that
Ellen should keep her show um but it's just a an interesting conversation being had because she's
so powerful and it all really started as sort of these whispers,
you know,
it was like a grassroots movement.
Yeah.
So first up,
Portia de Rossi is breaking her silence on the Ellen scandal.
She is quote,
standing by her wife amid reports of the talk show hosts,
alleged bad behavior behind the scenes,
quote to all of our fans,
dot,
dot,
dot.
We see you.
Thank you for your support.
She captioned a quote that said,
I stand by Ellen in the hosts signature white and and baby blue show colors when you posted this yesterday I know I
was like we stand by Ellen it looked like I posted that we stand but no I was just quote
and he was like oh so you're standing by Ellen oh no um no we just needed to post that Portia
de Rossi like broker silence I was really shocked that a quote card had been made.
And, you know, your movement isn't really all that powerful when the only person posting about it is your wife.
Like, no offense.
This was really sad.
And honestly, the graphic was low-level designer.
Like, this looked like it was made on Microsoft Paint.
And it was just, it made the whole movement, like, so sad.
Yes, but an interesting factoid is that jerry o'connell also posted it and he's
someone who i i believe i believe no i i saw it first on jerry o'connell's and i'm like where did
this graphic come from jerry o'connell didn't make it and then i searched down the rabbit hole that
porsche had made it and i was very shocked to find that jerry o'connell had posted it because
i agree with you i respect him and i like I think he's a good judge of character.
We have hung out with him and he was so funny and so nice and so human.
It's like I trust his opinion on housewives.
Therefore, I know that we have similar judgments of people in general.
Totally.
And so if he's standing by Ellen, it just makes you stop and think.
Yes.
But there are also other celebrities who are standing by Ellen.
Katy Perry released a series of tweets.
Yes.
I have that here.
Katy Perry defends Ellen amid talk show controversy, quote, sending you love and a hug.
She said, I know I can't speak for anyone else's experience besides my own, but I want
to acknowledge that I've only ever had positive takeaways from my time with Ellen and on the
Ellen show.
I think we have all witnessed the light and continual fight for equality that she has
brought to the world through her platform for decades.
See, that's true.
will fight for equality that she has brought to the world through her platform for decades.
See, that's true.
Well, I think what Katy Perry tweeted just actually validates what other people are saying,
because what other people are saying is like, unless you're Jennifer Aniston or Katy Perry or the Kardashians, like you're not ever going to get a word from Ellen.
Like you're not going to get respect.
You're not going to get treated nicely.
So of course, Katy Perry had a positive experience.
She's one of the biggest stars in the world like this tracks with what we already know which is that ellen like respects fellow a-listers we
never thought that she didn't but then like the guy from everybody loves raymond the tall guy
whose name i don't know brad or something he was like yeah and nikki tutorials and karen olympios
like people who are not a-list like i know katie perry was trying to help but in a lot of ways she
validated a lot of
people's concerns yeah I totally agree but she also did bring up a point it's like everyone
say what you want about Ellen but at the end of the day like she is was the first openly gay woman
on television and she does have all these really huge accomplishments and accolades and it's like
this is where cancel culture gets dicey it's like how do you invalidate that you can't no you can't
culture gets dicey it's like how do you invalidate that you can't no you can't make you think yeah I think that people are struggling with that general question of do the ends justify the means
I don't know I mean to be honest all that's coming out for me isn't what's like most disappointing
what's most disappointing is her lack of response and like when she does respond that letter she released to her um crew that
obviously went public which literally just threw everyone under the bus she did not take
responsibility for one part of it and let's say she was telling the truth like the three producers
who she put in charge andy lassner ed galvin and someone else i'm sorry i don't know his name
let's say that these three guys you know took ellen's name and they made this rampant culture
with racism sexual harassment toxicity all this stuff like let's say ellen three guys, you know, took Ellen's name and they made this rampant culture with racism, sexual harassment, toxicity, all this stuff.
Like, let's say Ellen was not lying in that memo.
You are still responsible.
Like, you still have to take an ounce of accountability because it's your show with your name.
So while I don't even think that that's the truth, the fact that she threw them under the bus and then still didn't take any accountability.
Like, what was the point in releasing that memo?
Right.
When I first read the memo, I took it at its face value, which like I I believed her where it's like she did not know about any of
this you know this is like obviously she feels responsible but like she did not commit do it
these acts but then I just saw all this stuff that was like she knew about all of this of course
and then I'm like stop with the lies stop with the lies and you know what at the end of the day
like you said it starts from the top.
And so just to take yourself out of the equation completely in a situation like this is not
going to satiate people's need for accountability from you.
And I feel like whoever is handling this for Palin is handling it so poorly between this
janky ass graphic from Portia and that terrible letter she sent out to her staff.
I just, it's like she doesn't want to turn this around, you know?
Yeah.
Well, so then the next part of the conversation is people are speculating about who might
be in line to replace Ellen.
Yes.
An article came out this week that James Corden is in line to replace her.
The Sun newspaper reported, despite other signs, that she's not going anywhere anytime
soon.
So I want to talk about James Corden, who you think could replace her. And also, if you think she's going anywhere anytime soon. So I want to talk about James Gordon, who you think could replace her.
And also if you think she's going anywhere anytime soon, if I were a betting woman and I
were putting money on this, I would bet that she is not going anywhere. Me neither. She has had
literally a long, successful career. She's not going out like this. I feel like for her, she
sees it. This is just a bump in the road. And I think she's just, the investigation will happen,
whatever. I don't know of any internal investigation that has ever been so damning.
Right.
Towards what they were investigating.
Also, you know, Ellen lives in, like, a simulation.
Like, she lives in her palace by the sea.
And I don't think she really knows, like, what's going on and, like, how big of a story this is.
Because she's so famous that, like, and I'm just sure she's not reading every article and every tweet about her.
Yeah, and also, it's not so many articles I feel like it's the tweets actually I've been seeing a lot of
articles and the Washington Post did like a full rundown of how this whole thing started and it was
fascinating and there were so many clips like you everyone knows the moments that are uncomfortable
Dakota Johnson Dakota Johnson I saw two clips that like I was shook by which oh the Mariah Carey
clip the Mariah Carey clip the Mariah Carey
clip where she basically forced Mariah Carey to announce that she was pregnant even though Mariah
was having fertility issues so she was she was pregnant at the time but she was hesitant to say
it publicly given all that had happened and Ellen made her drink champagne to be like well if you're
not pregnant have champagne and she like pretend and she put it down and it turns out that she
actually had a miscarriage after that so it's like what are you doing Ellen and the second thing was something more recently
where she played a prank on her audience like these private citizens who love Ellen who went
to her show where she put them all in a waiting room and they were all really big fans and they
had free merch and it was like take one item and they filmed people who took like two mugs instead
of one and literally she called out this woman. She put her in Ellen jail.
She sat on the stage.
She was like,
it was so embarrassing and so awful.
Like this girl took an extra hat.
Okay.
Like it said Ellen on it for her sister who loved Ellen,
but couldn't make it to the taping.
And Ellen was like,
well,
a lot of people's sisters couldn't make it to the taping.
It was insane.
It was so much worse than the Dakota Johnson one.
Like,
I don't know why the Dakota Johnson one took off and not the Mariah Carey or this one it was horrible I have not seen that terrible to me that is worse than anything because that is a private
citizen yeah and it's not like she stole all the hats like if it was someone who went in there with
a shopping bag and threw them all in and didn't leave for other people and was probably gonna
sell them on eBay okay I mean, Ellen jail is a little crazy,
but fine, whatever. To take one extra for your sister. And when like a lot of people took extras
and she literally called out this one cute woman and it was, it was so sad. We need to get that
woman on like the today show. You know who I want to hear from on this? Mason Ramsey's grandparents.
Yeah. They're honest. And that and that interview you know a lot of these
interviews are popping up and i'm surprised that the mason ramsey one hasn't because she was
so fucking condescending to him and that was really like a turning point for me that was a
turning point for me too when he said his dream was to go to college and she was like really
that's in a beautiful fucking dream beautiful dream mason that's beautiful like that was
that was upsetting like that whole thing um okay but the
James Corden thing James Corden and in addition to that Twitter is also sounding off about who
should replace Ellen they're coming in with all their suggestions well I don't know if the James
Corden thing is true but like to be honest this is like the same conversation we have about award
shows like there is a circle of straight white men named James and it's never ending like the
opportunities that they get and
like they're so and to give Ellen's platform which was really built on like gay pride like just to
give it to James Corden is like what and I like James Corden that's I actually love him I it's
it's hard because I actually think he's the job were an open position he would be great he would carry like that joy and love that
that is her legacy allegedly publicly he would carry that on like he's all about music and and
she's all about dancing and I think he would actually be a great fit for the role but it just
in terms of who deserves this opportunity and like the legacy like of Ellen who like fought so hard
trailblazer just to have to
go back to the status quo you can't you can't yeah even though i agree he'd be sensational
yeah like but also he's great on on his show and also if he i guess if he did take over her show
someone that would open his spot on the late late all right i'll do it i'll do it so people have a
lot of suggestions for who they think it could be. Tiffany Haddish. Would love it. Michelle Obama.
Oh, wow.
Drew Barrymore.
She already has a show.
She's busy.
But I guess it could be that, you know.
Her show has been in development forever.
I know, but that's also because we're in a pandemic.
Oh, true.
Forgot about that.
Jerry Seinfeld.
He would literally never do it.
Wake up, work every day.
Yeah, he would never do it.
I don't like any of those suggestions, to be honest. Tiffany Haddish is good she's funny yeah I mean again like just
because you're funny doesn't mean you would have a funny show because part of being a talk show
host is listening it's so much there are so many skills that you need to have and we see it all the
time with people who you think would be perfect for a talk show bethany meredith viera chris jenner oh that was that didn't get a good enough chance time
agreed like with the whole set recreated as her living room like it was it was too soon we weren't
ready we didn't like at that time like right now chris jenner is a true icon and when you watch
kardashians you're like chris jenner's my favorite we need more we need more back then we were just
still so caught up in the girls yeah I didn't know what we had and I
don't think like the country saw her yet as this like maternal figure and now it's like we need
that voice yeah I I feel very strongly about the fact that Kris never got a fair shot yeah I agree
now I'm trying to think about who could replace Ellen.
I hadn't given it much thought.
Kelly Clarkson.
I was just going to say that, but she's doing great.
She's doing great.
Yeah, she seems like she's doing really well.
Okay, so let us know what you think.
Who you think, yeah.
Sound off in the comments.
Yeah.
Next story, some sweet young relationship news.
JoJo Siwa introduces her, quote, amazing new boyfriend in a must-see TikTok.
I did see it.
The teenage internet sensation announced she's in a relationship with Mark Bontempo.
If Mark's last name sounds familiar, it's because he's the little brother of social media star Madison Bontempo.
Don't know her.
No, I can't say that I do.
No.
Taking to TikTok over the weekend, JoJo confirmed the news about her boyfriend with a cute video.
Quote, meet Mark, she captioned her post along with a smiley face.
In the short clip, the two were dancing to Mozzie's Famous.
While dressed up in each other's clothing, JoJo rocked her boyfriend's skinny jeans,
a cream-colored sweater, and Mark went full out and put on her signature look,
which included the glittery bow, bedazzled jacket, multicolored skirt, tights, etc.
Yeah, they did that challenge where everyone
like dresses as their boyfriend their boyfriend dresses as them but but Theo's parents did it
best thank you I agree follow me on TikTok even though that's one of my favorite TikToks of all
time like watching really turned it out Ben there's just something so so beautiful about it
I can't something so dazzling about his performance. Yeah, no. He really makes for a beautiful and confident woman.
So confident.
A little too confident.
Back to Jojo Siwa having a boyfriend.
This is so crazy.
But at the end of the day, who is Jojo Siwa?
We think she's this 12-year-old girl who runs around in bows and performs songs that
literally sound like theme songs for cartoons. But at the end of the day, she's 17. She has needs. Yeah. And she's
a boyfriend. At the end of the day, she's 17, taking a bath at the end of a long day, chain
smoking a pack of cigarettes. There is a really unfounded rumor that Jojo Siwa chain smokes.
And you know what? If you hear her voice enough times it kind of tracks it's not
even that there's any evidence that would make you believe it but when I first heard it it's
for some it just stuck with me yeah and that coupled with the fact that she's shadily like
five foot ten really made me believe it yeah and she is she's really growing up she's been posting
more videos of her with her hair down I'm I I think she's getting to that, you know.
Hannah Montana, Crowley Corners moment.
Hannah Montana versus Miley Cyrus.
Lizzie McGuire versus Hilary Duff.
Like, when can I just be me?
And I think she also loves being JoJo.
And I think she does love the bows and stuff.
But, you know, you can't be on all the time.
No, but I do think she loves being
a role model seriously for young people like even if she takes her bows out like she's going to
continue she's not going to be you know naked on the cover of and she's not going to call the
paparazzi and then smoke a cigarette in front of them you know she's not going to do that to the
fans I really think she takes her duty as a role model very very seriously and we need role models
like that for the children at any age yes I totally agree um also we need people who want to be role models for sure and we also
need to stop expecting people who never asked to be role models to be good role models yes like
just because you have a platform that should not make you a role model like don't follow me if you
don't want to see me chain smoking cigarettes you know what i mean yeah um but back to the jojo
siwa thing i also think this might be you know something she's dealing with is like she really
is growing up and maybe she doesn't want to run around
in a tight ponytail that's going to give her a migraine every day with a bow um but that is so
ingrained in her brand and like she is just turning out product left right and center she has like
these crazy deals with walmart she sells she has like her own lunchables her own juice box
like unless you're really in it you don't know how wide her network of merch and like branding is
and she has to continue to be that like she really does her backpacks her her clothing she she has to
be that girl even when she doesn't want to be I understand that and I do think she will continue
to do that but I also think there are ways for her to evolve where she doesn't have to like
completely go the other way and she can sort of
phase out take steps like even when Hannah Montana got that haircut you know it was just like a whole new Hannah it was a whole new Hannah and I feel like I could even see Jojo doing like half up
half down and sort of moving into the sort of ponies that Ariana Grande does and like a chic
updo a chignon and maybe the bow gets a little smaller and maybe then the bow goes here or the
bow goes in the back like I think it's time if this is what she wants.
There are ways where you can gradually evolve and it doesn't have to be such a stark contrast
for the fans when they wake up one day and they're like, where's my Jojo?
No.
And Jojo's like literally on the cover of Vanity Fair wearing nothing but a bed sheet.
Totally.
Remember when that was like the craziest thing happening in our country?
Like we didn't know how good we had it in 2010 when literally like billy ray cyrus was under fire
for being on set when annie lee woods took a picture of miley cyrus from the back and like
you could see literally a centimeter of her butt crack yeah that was a crazy crazy time i literally
it's like one of those things where it's like you remember where you were when like you saw it i was
in the airport and was on the tv and like it was literally like the parents of America were shook. Wait I'm trying to think um I want to see if I have the timeline right when that cover was
because I feel like I remember which airport we were in. I think it was like Fort Lauderdale.
Oh was it? Like when we were on vacation as kids. It was like 2008. It was crazy times. Crazy times.
Also um back to something that you said so beautifully earlier. Oh thank you. I really do think that we need a docuseries called Who Is Jojo Siwa?
Where she can sort of answer some of these questions.
And in turn, help herself get out of this box.
Get out of this.
But I do think so much of her success is built on this mystery.
Like, she's this anomaly.
And kids like Kim Kardashian's kids fucking die for her.
Like, there is this air of mystery around her that I think adds to the
spectacle.
I do.
Yeah.
And maybe like she takes her hair down and puts on a ball cap and,
and,
and goes and is a normal kid.
Sometimes maybe she loves what she does,
you know,
you never know,
but you know,
you do assume that she does eventually want to grow out of this,
but maybe she doesn't.
Yeah.
I mean,
we just assume that because everybody who came before her didn't love
what they did, but maybe she loves what she does that would be refreshing and that would really
make her the true role model it's so sad when you love like the way that I loved Hannah Montana and
to know that like she hated her the whole time it's but no not the whole time but towards the
end it just it does take away from the joy from the magic I agree completely it would be nice to have like a a person who loved like
the character that they created for themselves yeah i mean i love girl with no joy not to make
it about me yeah okay fifth and final story a little sports news oh we are so athletic let me
just do my stretches duane the rock johnson is and an investor group agreed to buy the XFL for $15 million.
That's it?
A team or the whole league?
The whole league.
You know the XFL.
It's the extreme football league.
Ben is like all into it.
He thinks it's going to be like the next big thing.
Right.
So apparently so does Dwayne Johnson.
The XFL had come back.
Our husbands even went to a game and they were planning for like a really big launch,
but then covid hit and so now dwayne johnson
um has agreed to including with other investors but he's the big he's the fudge has agreed to
purchase the xfl for about 15 million dollars according to a news release issued on monday
that seems so low the xfl declared chapter 11 bankruptcy on april 13th and has been seeking a
buyer for the past three months marketing itself itself as a made-for-TV product that could transition as early as 2021
to a bubble concept during the coronavirus pandemic.
Johnson and his investors are making plans
to play next season, they told ESPN.
So this is kind of exciting.
I feel like right now,
with all of the uncertainty going on in the sports world,
this is actually a perfect time
for some sort of like alternative extreme version.
Because if it really is made for television,
maybe, I don't know how the XFL works,
what makes it extreme.
I just like to imagine like football players on trampolines.
No, no, no, no.
It's like rough.
It's like rugby-ish, I think.
There's no trampolines.
I'm sorry.
I'm going on trampolines.
No.
That's highly entertaining.
Yeah.
Well, you know, sometimes life is so weird
because art truly imitates life.
And Dwayne Johnson is on a show on HBO called Ballers.
And it's so good, first of all.
And Ricky, who is the guy, Denzel Washington's son, who was in Black Klansman, he's like
one of the stars.
It's such a good show.
And literally in the show, he's like this, you this you know hustle make money deals guy who is a
sports agent and tries to bring a football team to Las Vegas so it's like truly and he was just
like I don't know what ended up happening I stopped watching the show but like he was just like
wanting to buy something really bad and Dwayne Johnson made that happen for Spencer you know
his character yeah art is just mirroring life just like Montana yeah it's beautiful to see
it is beautiful to see.
So those were the past five stories. I feel as though you needed to know them. Yes, they were.
Was that five stories? Yeah, I think so. I mean, there was 72 Ellen stories. Yeah,
there was two sex of Ellen stories. One, two, three, four. Yeah, that's five. Sorry.
Fabulous. Well, I feel informed. Yeah, I feel informed as well. Oh, last night I watched,
so now I'm caught up to Yellowstone, so now I'm watching weekly with everyone.
And the new episode was kind of meh, actually.
I feel like in the beginning the episodes were so long and so much would happen,
and I would be like, am I still watching the same episode?
And then last night it ended sort of abruptly.
Maybe they're, like, running low on content because of filming and coronavirus,
so they're, like, splicing up the episodes differently.
I just really wish you would watch the show because I know that you would love it and like it's a whole other world okay well
my docket did free up because I finished Shameless last night and I told you that I started the
season and I thought it was so much better and when I finished it like I actually was sobbing
it was such a beautiful episode and I just I think they should have gotten rid of Emmy Rossum
years ago she just took up so much space on the TV and like so much time.
And it's really an ensemble cast.
I would say there's like 13 main characters,
but she was really like the main, main one.
And the whole show kind of revolved around her.
And she had the worst decision-making skills.
And it was just so annoying.
And now that she's gone,
it's left room for the other characters to really like evolve
and you get more character development.
And it's so much better.
Like I think that it's like, it's literally a brand new show.
And I hope that people,
like I hope they won't end it now that she's over like I hope it's not on
its last leg because it was really good and Jeremy Allen White is just the man of my dreams and I
love him um so it was good I also have two episodes left of The Crown and like for some reason I just
can't get myself to watch them because I love it so much I've done that with like mostly just
Schitt's Creek where I refuse to let it end. Where is season four of The Crown? What do you mean? When is it coming? Oh probably not for a
while because like the way it's so beautifully and ornately done that there's a lot of time
between seasons. So I do have some free time. Especially now with the gap. Right. In the
filming. So maybe I'll get into Yellowstone but um I've just been like living in shameless for a few days.
So I need to get out of it.
I understand.
I also finished the Redheads book last night and we're recording the episode today.
So if you have questions that you want us to answer about the book, email us at theredheadsbookclub at gmail.com.
We actually got some amazing questions.
The book is really intense and I didn't read up.
There's a lot of discussion around the book itself that I hadn't read up on until I finished the book because I didn't want any spoilers.
And I think like the book itself poses some like really tough and interesting questions.
And then also the discussion around the book and the storytelling is just really interesting.
So that's where I've been and I'm looking forward to recording the episode today.
And I'm looking forward to what Snitch's choice is going to be.
If you're ever looking to become a redhead,
I would start on a Snitch's choice
because it's always a great pick.
Those are our most popular episodes.
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I'll join the redheads after I promote my comedy special. I mean, it wouldn't, it would never be too late.
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Anything else we need to say before we wrap this up?
No, I think that's all she wrote.
We'll be back tomorrow for home day, dear toasters, et cetera.
And a reminder that this is our last full week in studio.
Starting next week, we are going to be releasing weekly episodes every Wednesday.
I want to address some of the controversy surrounding weekly episodes
because I've been seeing, I saw like the most like fake news comment
where someone was like, they're going to weekly episodes, like without the addendum that it's just
for a month, for a month. It's four weekly episodes. It's four weekly episodes for a month
while we're on vacation. This is in no way us trying to switch to weekly episodes forever.
Like we just want to give you content while we're on vacation. Yeah. I also saw some fake news of
people being like, we are trash because we are traveling for a month and i just again need to put it out there that that is 100%
not true we will all be in a house quarantine together we are not flying anywhere like i can't
even deal with the nonsense anymore with the nonsense like if you're if you don't listen to
the show and it didn't come from my lips stop fucking speaking about us because you don't know
anything and you're annoying as hell yeah so thank you we have no plans to go to weekly episodes after our hiatus.
It's truly just a break.
Like we.
This is our job.
People are like where are you going?
I'm like I have to make a living.
I will be back in September.
Yeah.
We love the show.
We love doing a daily show.
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It's truly just a hiatus.
Just think of us like The View.
Yes.
Think of us like Watch What Happens Live.
Everyone goes on hiatus.
Think of us like The Jimmys.
The Jimmys.
The Jimmys.
Kimmel has been on hiatus for a mad long time.
I mean, I hope he's enjoying his vacation.
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