The Toast - S3 Ep138: Wet Ass Toasty: August 12th, 2020

Episode Date: August 12, 2020

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Good morning! September 14th in studio. Hope everyone is having a fabulous week so far whenever you are watching this. It's so exciting to be doing weekly episodes even though it's only we've only missed two shows since our last episode but still I feel like so much has gone down. There's so much to talk about so much TV, news, pop culture and I'm excited to get into it. We are currently on our summer break having a splendiferous time. Having a ball. We went on a hike. I mean we've only been here for one day and i already went on a hike i went swimming i went to walmart like i'm just so in my element here you guys walmart though it's just not fair that there's not a walmart in the city and the ones near the city are like really really small we went to a super center we went to a super center i think we did 10 000 steps like my Like my legs, when I got home, they were jello. Between the hike and our trip to Walmart, I will tell you how many steps.

Okay, only 6,000. That's how many you've done today? Yeah, between the walk and the Walmart. It feels like more. I forgot to bring my phone on the hike, so I didn't get to count those steps towards my daily goal. I mean, if you know how I live my life normally, like I'm truly unwell. My body's broken. I plan on relaxing like for the rest

of the trip maybe doing some more hikes but i needed to get the walmart out of the way because a i wanted to go and b we like needed stuff for the trip yeah and i'm currently laying in my fabulous new outfit from walmart walmart just has everything we were like in a rush i i need to go back i know we were so frazzled and overwhelmed it was culture shock and there were so many things that we needed from all the different departments. And I would like to go back and go one department at a time and really focus on all of the offerings that Walmart has to offer. I mean, in a lot of ways, a Walmart super center is essentially a Costco because all the sizes that we got for like snacks was

abnormal. Oh yeah, for sure. But I just, I don't know what like the technical difference is between Walmart and Costco. I know Costco does like tastings and they have more. No, the difference is that mostly everything at Costco is bulk size. Oh, but that's how I feel about Walmart. No, but this particular Walmart. Yeah, I guess Costco has like those wild sizes. Walmart is really similar to Target, but Target has super targets, remember? Yes. So I don't know if super targets carry bolts we'll have to go to the near super target and check it out yeah I think I think it sounds like it would be fabulous I just had the best time at Walmart today like I wanted to live there there was still so much more stuff that we needed and they have so much stuff for the home like cookware furniture

and beauty beauty and there was just so much that we didn't even touch on like i want to check out the furniture i want to feel the sheets yeah oh totally you know get some good shit there like they have legit like flatware for the kitchen like you could really furnish your whole kitchen like william sonoma who who the superstore can be read to also had a hair salon and a nail salon i know they weren't closed unfortunately the nail salon was open we'll have to go back 100 like i'm telling you this walmart is gonna be like my vacation is at the walmart yeah it was really something special people who go to walmart every day are gonna be like what but there's really no walmart's near us yeah and anytime we're somewhere where there is a walmart we are so appreciative and like recognizing that we have something special

at our fingertips it's such a privilege to go we go with like the biggest smiles on our faces we're so happy to be there and we really soak it all in yeah so i feel as though we definitely take advantage of the situation but it is such a bummer that new york does not have one no not even remotely close in the one i think there might be one um like near the the small target in harlem but they're just so small it's not the same experience no it is not the same experience so to to really, like, can you get a tire there? No, no, no. You can't buy, you can't buy mulch. Do you see how many tires they had? No. Oh my God. There was a whole tire department. I was just like really getting lost in the snacks because I was walking down some of the snack aisles and I saw snacks I hadn't seen since I was a child. Like little,

what are they called? Little bites. Little bites. They had all the little debbies. They had all the Entenmanns. It was really overwhelming. I got a blueberry pie that was like made, I'm sure, you know, like it's not brand name. It's, you know. A homemade brand. Like a homemade Walmart pie.

They put it in like a brown box to make you think it's homemade. It's definitely made in a factory. Oh, for sure. But like a homey factory. Yeah, no, no. It has like a front door. Like a small business yeah you know not intimans and i really look forward to digging into that i of course got my loft

sugar cookies which are my absolute favorite i thought it was a public's exclusive but apparently the more i travel i realize they pretty much sell it at every major grocery store as they should it's a staple it's a staple and for those who like there's like a meme going around like people who eat these cookies are disgusting it's like the fact that people act like they're like sociopaths who think that, like, really worries me about the future of this country. I totally agree. But I did see some backlash on that meme. As there should be.

And that reinstated my faith. Yeah, 100%. So clearly we've had a very busy vacation. Hopefully next week on next week's episode we'll have more to catch up on. But we've only been on vacation for like a day and a half and already there's just so much to talk about so much most of it has to do with the walmart but also the vistas the vistas are splendid splendiferous really we have all the campers with us we've got mckay theo magnolia and it is just it's a full house truly and the campers are just running around and it's so beautiful to watch the

children as a counselor myself to see the campers just like kind of growing into their own and just becoming so independent, it almost brings a tear to my eye. For sure. And as a camper myself, like I feel so much jealousy because all the new campers are here. They're so much cuter. They are a little less mature, so they require more attention. AC has really been acting up because she just wants her counselors' love and attention. But you know what? There comes a time in every camper's life where she has to grow up there comes a time

by the way that is beautiful Jackie that's beautiful thank you so like AC is kind of going on this self-discovery journey while she's on vacation and I think that's what summer break is meant to do and that's what camp is meant to do yeah 100 um my episode on bachelor happy hour came out today and i actually listened to it i never really listened to podcasts that i'm on but i actually had so much fun doing it and it was so funny um i actually listened to it when i like woke up this morning and was doing my thing and it's a fabulous episode and you should check it out you should check it out yeah cool well i think we should just get into the things that we need to get into we also got a mcdonald's ice cone today, which was like a big staple of our day.

We did, and I got a big McDonald's Guzzler iced coffee. And I got a big McDonald's soda, and we're both drinking them right now. So we are well caffeinated and ready to deliver the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. How? And yes, you didn't necessarily say anything factually incorrect,

but as a fact checker of this show, I do think I need to just interject if i may and as a fact checker of this show we're doomed so true um have you seen that instagram like now has like a fact checking thing on there yes it's kind of annoying but like it's like how fucking wrong do you have to be for that thing to pop up oh it popped up on our Instagram. I know. When I posted that Ghislaine BBC thing because it was fake. Right. And I'm so glad that it popped up.

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Morgan Stewart and her fiance, Jordan McGraw, are pregnant and are expecting a girl. They revealed that they're pregnant yesterday on Instagram in a sweet Instagram video and also revealed the gender of their bebe. I mean, this is the type of news where you're feeling so many ways. Because I'm genuinely surprised. Like, I just didn't see this coming. And so happy. So it's just like a mixture of emotions it really is and i feel as though a lot of celebrity pregnancy

announcements they announce the pregnancy then they do another with the gender and i really loved that gender and pregnancy were both announced together yes i too felt surprised because we the public learned about their relationship in march late they started dating in January so it is been a short relationship but they also did just get engaged but when you know you know 100% and as fans of Morgan Stewart like we know it's not fans like it's we're fucking obsessed I know I was just like trying to like when we were all we're all together in this house and when we heard it like people were literally screaming from the upstairs like so insane but I'm just so happy for her I feel like she's just in this like moment in her life in her career where it's just like all coming

together for her and I think that this is so beautiful and I also think it's so interesting how like this is like maybe like the third pregnancy announcement that's kind of shocked me in the sense it's like young Hollywood like Stassi um Vanessa Morgan like it's just everyone's having babies yeah everyone's having babies. Yeah, everyone's having babies. I think now that we're month six of quarantine or something, you know, it gave everyone a lot of time to get pregnant, also have the time to wait to announce their pregnancy. And so now everything's just coming up pregnant.

I'm so happy she's having a girl, because of course it's a blessing no matter what. But, like, Morgan Stewart needs a daughter. I know. When you saw the video and you saw her face, and then she posted on her Instagram after that she totally thought it was going to be a boy yeah and you can just see like the shock and joy in her face thank god thank god it's it's so exciting of course we saw

the pictures with Dr. Phil who was in the room so that's another you know whole element I think we should dive into because he was there with his wife Robin and Morgan's parents and you just you love to see Dr. Phil become grandpa phil yeah i think he's already a grandpa and i'm sure he's an amazing one at that and so it's just it's so beautiful it really is nice to see someone anyone whether you're a fan of them or not just like going through a very exciting time in their life and just like knowing it's all happening for this person yeah that's true like you really can appreciate it and be happy and it helps that morgan is like in person like such a nice girl so funny so nice to everyone like she's she she does it especially in

rich kids she doesn't give off this like energy it's like mean girl but she's not like that at all she's so nice and so funny and so welcoming so all these good things like really couldn't be happening for a better person and I'm just so happy for her yeah truly so happy for her I just I really was so shocked that's the thing it's like the element of surprise is what really took me when when hearing about this story but that's like the hallmark of a great pregnancy announcement you know it's sometimes someone's pregnant and there's a lot of rumors going around for a while and then they announce and the fun was taken out of it yeah and so this she just swept everyone off their feet.

Totally. I mean, it's v-rare that you can announce a pregnancy that, like, the Toasters didn't see coming. Mm-hmm. And I feel that way with Stassi, too. She totally blindsided us. Yeah. And same with Morgan. And I just, as a fan, I'm just so excited.

So, so excited. We are so excited for the happy family. And Morgan is, like like such eclectic style like i just can't wait for the nursery like all that stuff she's gonna do it all really well and that pregnancy looks 10 million dollar dr phil purchased house i mean it's a good life it's a good life okay next story some good news after some scary news but simon cowell is walking again after having back surgery this is such a crazy story such a crazy story sim Simon Cowell is walking again after having back surgery. This is such a crazy story. Such a crazy story.

Simon Cowell is recovering after his scary accident. Just days after breaking his back in a number of places, the 60-year-old America's Got Talent judge is walking again as part of his recuperation. Amid his ongoing hospitalization, Simon is also beginning to work on his iPad, but is otherwise taking it easy and has not currently allowed any visitors due to the COVID-19 restrictions in the hospital. So he had an accident a few days ago. On like an electric bike. Yeah, he broke his back in a number of places, like was nearly paralyzed.

Those bikes are like popular in Europe, but as far as I know, they've actually been banned in the UK, which is where he was riding. I guess so. That makes sense. Well, I mean, breaking your back is like people break their legs like breaking your back i didn't even know you could do that yeah it's it's really serious and severe of an injury and i think that he's very fortunate to be recovering right now when they reported it it was like under when i read it it's like he's going to be in a wheelchair for the rest of his life but if he's walking that's a very very good sign it is a very good sign so that is some good news following some scary news and some more good news that's

coming out of it actually is that kelly clarkson is going to be filling in for him on america's got talent which is exciting because it's kelly clarkson and she can do everything but it's also so poetic full circle simon was a judge when she was the contestant and now the contestant becomes the judge the student becomes a teacher the camper becomes the counselor that's just maybe similar similarly poetic as when a shark tank pitcher it's only happened once the guy from ring and he didn't even get the deal on shark tank no but he did become a shark for like a guest shark which is very cool right but this is this is unlike that because Kelly won American Idol. Yes. So it goes to show that like the cream always rises. Yes.

You know. It would be like if Justin Guarini were filling in. Then it would be similar to the Shark Tank example. It would be. And you know what? That would be fabulous. I think maybe one of my favorite facts of the world is the fact that Justin Guarini is the guy from the Dr. Pepper commercials.

It's the sweet one. Yeah. I'm trying to think of other American Idol contestants who are so famous now. But didn't win and didn't even come in second place. Catherine McPhee. That's who I was thinking. Jennifer Hudson. That's also who I was thinking about.

Daughtry. Catherine. I fucking love Daughtry. I know you do. With a passion. Where's that new Daughtry album? Like when is it dropping? No I don't know.

The fans are waiting. The fans are not well. They're waiting with bated breath we honestly we really are i've got to catch up on my daughtry you've got to check the fan like leaderboards see what everyone's up to we need a daughtry facebook group totally what's like the daughtry toasters something i i know what's so funny is that chris daughtry if you say by the way if you say the word daughtry Toasters. Something. I honestly... But you know what's so funny is that Chris Daughtry, if you say, by the way, if you say the word Daughtry enough times,

it starts to sound weird. It's like how you say garage so many times and it doesn't sound like a word anymore. Road. Right. But Daughtry is a band.

Yes. But Chris Daughtry is like the lead singer, but it's just weird that you would name the band after the lead singer. You mean like Zac Brown Band, Dave Matthews Band.

Yeah, I think it's weird. Et cetera. Yeah. But then I also think it's weird when it's like your band name is rascal flats and no one in the band is named rascal right it's so misleading so i think you just don't like bands not true i love bands love okay so name a band that you think is appropriately titled maroon five is a good name okay because it's like an abstract thing when you include names it just it just makes it confusing. Okay. And like justice for the other members of Zac Brown Band who work so hard on that fiddle.

They do work hard on that fiddle, but they get that level of anonymity, you know, when Zac is going to the grocery store getting mauled. I don't think that that's happening, but it's possible. He's getting mauled by Margot Loughran at the grocery store. Totally. No, I was thinking about Catherineatherine mcphee though because what slipped out on real houses of new york oh kristin mcphee when um mcphee mcphee yeah when luanne was wearing the bangs at that charity event and ramona showed up and was like oh my god you

look like the the actress who married the older man the she was like you look like that beautiful actress who married the older gentleman yes and they were like were like, McPhee, McPhee. And Catherine McPhee put that on her Instagram. She was like, it's me, Kristen McPhee. It was so funny. Like, how does Ramona Singer even know who Catherine McPhee is? Only because she married an older gentleman. I'm sure it was a loss for the Ramonas. Oh, of course.

No, David Foster was like one of the men. There are a few men that like those older women of New York, Ramona, like would die for because they're like rich and successful. And that's like Ramona said, if you make $500,000 a year, that's not enough for you. She said that on Watch Dogs Live. And I'm sure that was a huge loss for the community when David Foster got married. Totally. By the way, if you can hear the snoring, it is THGO. He had such a long, beautiful day and now he's lapped up and just living his best life. For all my dog moms, you'll appreciate this enormous milestone. We went for a huge hike today. Obviously Theo came, but he was off leash,

which we've never really done before, but we're totally like surrounded by nothing and he can't really get lost, but it's still kind of scary. And he was amazing. He listened to all the calls, like when he called him back, but he stayed with the group. It was like, I was a very proud mom today. Yeah, it was really exciting. We were like a pack and he was kind of like the hunting dog, like in the crown when the dogs go out and they sniff, you know, looking for a game, looking for some game. He was out there looking for game. He's always looking for game, by the way. Always. Okay. Next story. Cardi B is defending putting Kylie Jenner in her music video. So we reported last week that Kylie was going to be in the music video for Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's new song.

The music video debuted and some fans were less than thrilled that Kylie Jenner appears in the video where she walks down a hallway donning a sexy leopard print ensemble. One disgruntled viewer tweeted out a screenshot of Normani twerking in the video and wrote, quote, Normani all this and kylie walked down the hall and opened a door if that's not a perfect visual indication of black women having to do the most and white women do the bare minimum to get somewhere i don't know what is but quickly cardi b shot down the jab and defended kylie's inclusion in the video she said quote normani is one of the best female artists that dances like she dances her fucking ass off why would she open a door please tell me how that would make sense the best part of the song is the beat and hook it makes you want to shake your ass she wrote in a since deleted tweet she also added that not everything is about race quote there's issues out here in the world that is about race race that i preach all the time

about this is not about fucking race she said why did i put kylie on my music video she treated my sister and daughter so lovely at her kid's birthday party she also added that kylie's ex travis scott is close friends with cardi's husband offset and that um kylie's mom chris jenner has quote been giving me advice on certain things that i asked for she also added that chris's boyfriend cory gamble is also close with offset okay but in her tweet about that she referred to chris's husband as cory she doesn't know. She's like, and Chris's husband is nice to my husband. Oh, that's so cute. Yeah, by the way, like,

there's so many things going on here. The first part is, like, I do see how someone could, you know, think of this as a metaphor on race. I do agree with Cardi, and, like, for Normani, who's so extremely talented, to walk down a hallway like that would be

disrespectful to her enormous talent yeah so i actually think cardi handled this like as well as she could because there was like a petition 60 000 people signing get get kylie out of the music video and i thought she looked great i thought i mean normani looked sickening and her dancing was as expected unbelievable and kylie looked beautiful which is what she does yeah she said normani danced that's her talent kylie looked beautiful which is what she does yeah she said normani danced that's her talent kylie started like a model that's her talent yeah i actually really appreciate cardi um defending kylie because like when everyone's back like you know has their pitchforks and their starting petitions it's so easy to like go with the flow and like not

stand up for like another person because people could just be so vicious it's sometimes just easier to go with it and i feel like not doing that was probably the harder route to take and she probably got a lot of shit for it but i actually really appreciate it and i hope kylie does too yeah i i'm sure that she does too i'm sure i feel like every time the kardashians are involved in something it's like you remember that so many people hate them yeah you know but we just live in a world where like everybody loves them yeah and we only surround ourselves with people who adore the kardashians because i i personally can't handle like that type of toxicity yeah we just watched the music video and i thought kylie's inclusion was so exciting i thought everybody who was

included was so exciting normani looked so fucking amazing that outfit that outfit was so cute rosalia was in it ruby rose uh was in it suki hana mul And Cardi B basically said that like she just loves these girls. Like anyone who was in the video, she was like from models to influencers. These are the girls that I personally like. I like their music. And I really feel like they're going to go mainstream. So once again, like women supporting other women. I don't see how people could have a problem with that.

No, I don't see how people could have a problem with that. What they might have a problem with. No, what a lot of people do have a problem with is the actual song. Is the actual song. I actual song i listened to it on friday or no whenever i listened to new music friday i but it was probably after the we did an episode friday or else i would have mentioned it and i was literally in shock well so i only i didn't listen to it i only watched a music video which i've now learned has been heavily censored lyrics wise because of YouTube's platform restrictions um and I definitely thought that it was like out there but I didn't even realize I was listening to a censored version I'm like wet and gushy oh that's like a cute word to use I

guess it turns out that it's actually the clean version for wet ass pussy sorry um which is different yeah a lot I mean there's just like a lot of conversation being had. It's like, is this inappropriate? Blah, blah, blah. And while I don't think that this song necessarily speaks to me, I just hate when people like tear down other things. Like you don't like the song. Like it's not hurting anyone. Just like turn it off, you know?

Yeah, I agree with that. And that's exactly what I did the first time I heard it. I was just like listening to my release radar and wet ass pussy came on like and it just felt like just so inappropriate to me um but a lot of people find it empowering and for this to be that for them i think that's fabulous and i'm not gonna like tear down another song just because it's not what i would like listen to so i just i feel like a lot of people are coming out like with their opinions on it it's like if you just don't like it like don't fucking listen to it that's like my yeah that's that's how I feel I mean that's my philosophy for like the world I totally agree but listening to it like I felt

like I was listening to Bon Appetit by Katy Perry where I where the lyrics I'm just like wait what did you just say yeah by the way it does give me major Bon Appetit Bon Appetit was a little bit more subtle in its metaphors. I'm actually going to read some of the lyrics because they are, you know, a lot. Descriptive. Descriptive. Perfect word. Please share. Yes, I would love to. I'm going to say as... I'm just going to go. Just say the words.

Yeah, you fucking... with some wet ass pussy. Bring a bucket and a mop for this wet ass pussy. Give me everything you got for this wet ass pussy. Beat it up. Catch a charge. Extra large and extra hard.

Put this pussy in your face. Swipe your nose like a credit card. Hop on top. I want to ride. I do a Kegel while it's inside. Spit in my mouth. Look in my eyes. This pussy is wet. Come take a dive. Tie me up like I'm surprised. Let's role play. I'll wear a disguise. I want you

to park that big Mack truck right in this little garage. Make it cream. Make me scream. Out in public. Make a scene. I don't cook. I don't clean. But let me tell you how I got this ring. So again, obviously very descriptive. A lot of people so again obviously very descriptive a lot of people think it's inappropriate a lot of people think it's inspiring and great you know sexual education for women it's great for women to be you know spoken about their pleasure when it comes to sex and I I see both sides as always and I'm just standing firmly in the middle it's like if you don't like the song like don't listen to it like i don't think you need to go like on your podcast and be like children are gonna hear this like you're fine like i'm not it's not my favorite song um but i don't necessarily like have a problem with it and i'm not gonna

like bash two women who obviously are very popular and they know what they're doing yeah and they're starting conversations there's and you know what i love when art does that people forget music is art like it's supposed to spark thought no i feel like every once in a while a song comes around that's like it's so either out there or the music video is and it and it everyone is like so like clutching their pearls about it and then you look back on it a few years later and you're like wait that's the song that everyone was so up in arms about like this is what we have now well that's how i feel about miley cyrus like getting crucified for being on the cover of vanity fair just like showing her back yeah she was like covered in a bed sheet and it was the biggest scandal of our generation like people like the national association of moms for

tv were like uh they were marching to congress like it was so crazy and now you look back it's like a very modest picture yes so i actually feel like in a few years we're gonna look back on this song and be like oh and you know what i think that's called progress except i still look back on bon appetit and i'm like i can't listen to this but you know what this is gonna be mean but it really does make a difference like who's singing it and some like cardi b and megan the stallion are both very outspoken and they're very sexual and they wear and sing you know it's this is on for them. I'm not really shocked by any of this. Katy Perry, like, was singing about Teenage Dream and gumdrops and lollipops, and then she's on a feast, Bon Appetit, baby.

Like, that was just actually bad branding and overall confusing. This is not confusing to me. This seems to be very on brand. And, like, Cardi's been very vocal about her time as a stripper. Like, this is actually not surprising to me at all, and it's very on brand. I do agree that i think i think you make a good point i think

a lot of the katie perry fans were like wait what right and the katie perry fans who were like wearing their wigs and their cupcake dresses were just like oh this is different but the megan the stallion and the cardi b fans were like this is not that different but i also feel like only you and i were so shook by that song bon appetit no people there was outrage there was outrage 100 okay cool cool and the music video too was exactly what but i think most of the outrage was because it was so unlike her and it was just her like she really fell into a place where she couldn't find her stride musically yeah she couldn't find her she was lost and she thought that this is what she needed to do and it just it felt so wrong yeah i hear that okay well next story is some exciting love news okay the bachelor's vanessa grimaldi is

engaged to joshua wolf interesting it looks like vanessa's grimaldi's journey to find love has come to an end the bachelor alum is engaged to joshua wolf she announced the news on instagram on monday she said said August 9th 2020 will forever be my favorite day of my life. She wrote alongside a few proposal pics JBR Wolf you are my everything and I cannot wait to be forever and ever with you hashtag engaged. He popped the question at the Fairmont Le Chateau Frontenac in Quebec. That sounds like a place I would love to be right now. Fabulous in French. Mm-hmm.

I mean, Vanessa Grimaldi is a weird one for me because she might be like the lead. Like, she's not a lead, but she won. She might be one of the Bachelor castmates who like made it as far as she did, who I keep up with less. Like, I know nothing about her. I agree with you. I didn't even realize she was in such a serious relationship. I'm always excited when people fall in love and her love story is coming to an end. So I'm here for it.

Or a beginning. But yeah, she kind of, for someone who won their season, and you can really become a big ass star for winning your season, she's kind of irrelevant one of my favorite things to do is actually check her instagram followers because she when she won and like it was at the height of their um like life as an engaged couple she was like at a million oh she almost hit a million followers and i check every few months just like wonder she's at 708 okay so i just find that it's one of my my favorite activities but then i also i'm like always applaud someone who you know steps out steps out of the limelight when it's not best for their lifestyle. And it seems as though she is engaged to a normal guy. Yeah, actually, I think that's admirable as well. So I love someone who chooses love.

I couldn't agree more over all the fame. But it's always nice when someone's able to choose love and fame comes with that as well. I mean, good. It's literally the best. Lauren Lane. You know, totally. You know? There's truly nothing better than having to give something up.

Nothing. Morgan Stewart. Morgan Stewart. Yes. So, very exciting. Fifth and final story. A little royal news. I love a little royal news.

Princess Eugenie, actually. Well well sorry this eugenie i thought it is and this headline just threw me off because it's like clickbaity and i don't want to read it the way it was written yeah you know because it's like how did princess oh god sometimes like the like magazine articles are their headlines are so worded like not in english okay i'll explain this because i was ready to be like this is how Princess Eugenie reacted to... But read theirs. How Princess Eugenie reacted to Meghan Markle and Prince Harry sharing baby news at her wedding.

Just tell us that she reacted poorly, obviously. Oh, did they share their baby news at her wedding? Yes. So there is a new tell-all book that has been released called Finding Freedom, Harry and Meghan and the Making of a Modern Royal Family. And in the book, it says that Meghan harry shared the news that they were expecting with family and friends at his cousin's royal wedding on in october 2018 and by the way eugenie's not

the one who just got married that was beatrice she got married like a year ago beatrice had a covid wedding a few weeks ago eugenie got married married October 2018. Okay. And then the pregnancy was officially announced three days later. But I guess they used the wedding to tell all their family and friends that they didn't want to have to text and stuff, which is actually a pretty shrewd move. Yeah, but I would be pissed too. This is like when people get engaged at the end of someone else's wedding. That's the way I've been seeing videos like that on TikTok. And the bride is like helping. I'm like, I would never be that nice. Yeah, no, we're like you go on a trip for someone's wedding, like a destination wedding, and that couple uses the opportunity to get engaged no it's like

get some more frequent flyer miles and do it on your own time a hundred percent i don't know anyone who's done that but it came up once when i was watching um wags i think oh someone did that someone either did that or was going to do that or i thought they were going to do it and i was like uh-uh please don't to me it's the weirdest thing ever yeah it's pretty weird because if you're like so compelled to do it in a destination like you go to a lot of destinations then so go to a different one so what was you know like you propose to someone in a place that's like meaningful so you feel the need to propose while you're traveling it's so tacky you must be a big traveler and therefore you have memories at every port therefore you should travel elsewhere totally to propose so what was eugenie's reaction according to the book quote

it did not go down particularly well with eugenie who a source said told friends she felt like the couple should have waited to share the news according to the authors of this book okay um now that i know how you feel about someone sharing news like this at their wedding this book that's coming out like is getting a lot of credibility you know as being the source of how megan and harry found freedom and like do you take and now that you've watched the crown like where do you stand on books like this i don't know because you know what at the end of the day and i just finished the crown and i want to talk about that in tv recap um at the end of the day what i've taken away from the crown is that so much of like the media stuff it's not ever that it's untrue it's just like they get they get a heads

up from like the daily mail that they're writing an article and it's not ever that like the queen is worried that the story is untrue it's true they just have to worry about how to then strategize and position themselves so it's like it almost makes me want to believe everything yeah but then i feel like the crown doesn't show you like all the rumors that were in the sun and daily mail that are untrue that they have to deal with but then you know what else it makes me think it's that like they are surrounded by so many people at all times between like lady and waiting butlers when they're driving servants pilots like there's so many people around them and they're like having intimate conversations. And I'm like, all this stuff is going to get out. Yeah. They're not even discreet about it. And even when they're in their own private quarters,

there's a butler, a lady in waiting, like me. I don't know if that's how it is in real life, but it seems like they talk very freely about like private things in front of a lot of people. Well, I'm sure one, there are there are ndas and two if someone's choosing to dedicate their life to be in service to the royal family like i don't think that that person unless they become disgruntled at some point is going to be the snitch you know like someone who is a private secretary like has a lot of deference towards the royal family and private secretary i'm not i'm not talking about like martin like the private secretary is totally like their number one priority is like the crown.

Protecting the crown. But it's like some of these like chefs or some of the butlers like do they really care? They're just like going to their job and going home so they can make ends meet. Yeah. No I feel that. And the drivers. Like there's so many people. At the end of the day it's like Daily Mail is offering them $15,000 to like tell them what they heard in the car.

Like I don't know. Are you sure? Sure. Easy money. Okay. So here's the tea on the authors of the book it's authored by two people omid scobie who's a london-based writer a royal editor for harper's bazaar and an abc news contributor doesn't sound that close to the crown

she also hosts um the abc's popular royal podcast are you kidding me this is about the author on amazon the air pod oh my god that's actually an amazing fabulous h e air h e i r wow okay i was about to slam this pod by the way those credentials though are really not in my opinion credible enough to be like the number one source for harry and megan book i agree it's like harry and megan didn't participate in it and it's not commissioned by a real biographer i tend to just ignore it. But this book is getting a lot of play. And I'm also tempted to read it. But I wonder what, I'm sure the lens it's told through is like positive towards Meghan and Harry because they're finding freedom, which is a positive connotation.

Yeah, I mean, and that's, I think that's like one of the great mysteries. It's like, what will we ever know? Like, so many people think like Meghan was this like devious little woman who came to the crown and stole the prince. And then some people, like, genuinely feel bad for her. Like, it's a tough life. And she, like, fell in love with this person. And the life was too much. And she got her freedom.

Like, some people feel both ways. So this book obviously tells one story. I'm sure there's another book that tells another. I think that's one of the things we'll truly never know. I don't know. I think eventually history will be written. And I think the royal family writes the history. Yeah.

You know, so it might all come out. But I still feel like things are ambiguous about Diana. And that's been almost 30 years. Totally. And that's why there's so many documentaries on it. So maybe we don't find out. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. Anyways, the other offer is a producer and writer who spent nearly two decades working in london covering buckingham palace kensington palace clarence house and other major international events again that's really not that big you're not close that that's melanie bromley during that yeah that's melanie bromley during that time she produced multiple interviews with members of the royal family, including Prince Harry, still Melanie Bromley. Yep. And she contributes to O, the Oprah Magazine, Elle Magazine, and other American and British news outlets.

You know what? Like, I'm really actually glad that we read this because this sounds like a crock of shit. Yeah. I couldn't agree more. But it's getting... I've been reading about it everywhere. Right. And then the other author, the first author, has become an authoritative voice on the lives and philanthropic endeavors of the royal family's younger members and maintains strong access to the Sussex's working world.

Vague, vague, vague, vague. But see, that's more impressive to me than, not impressive, but to me that makes me think that they might know more than the average person. Reporters, they have computers just like us like yeah these two things make me think that they're clearly well versed in the history of the royal family and they're up on the family on the drama but do they have exclusive access unprecedented access i don't know i don't know either but that remains to be seen remains to be seen are megan and harry involved in this book at all not that i am aware of okay we'll see i mean i might read it but um this is a good transition into our tv recap segment because we're gonna do real housewives of potomac and all that stuff but i want to talk quickly about some of the stuff i watched this weekend which was i did eventually finish the crown

i had two more episodes i was like really devastated to be done with it because i know it's going to be a while with COVID and everything till we get another season and I'm really sad about that but I'm also so curious it's we left off at an interesting moment because it's like Charles and his marrying a girl like where are we going to go

and we all know that it was very tumultuous between Camilla and then Princess Diana and then they get divorced she dies like all that stuff and that's a good place to have left off because i think that this season will be very interesting when it pertains to charles because his love life was so interesting but my god charles is fucking annoying like yeah and he's just he thinks he's so great and special and like different from his family and like looks down on his family i'm an independent thinker like just be the king and shut the fuck up like he was annoying me so much and you're right watching it really does make

you think i don't even know if it's possible, it does make you think that they're going to skip over him. Like, nobody has faith in him. Not even his mom. Even from a young age, you know? With the school. Like, he was just never. Literally from when he was two.

He was never, like, doing well. Yeah, he was never. Like, I think that he's a good person. He has a good heart. He cares about things. He's interested in things but those things don't necessarily make for a strong monarch at least not on their own there takes a lot it's a lot of that and also restraint you know there's so much i mean there's so much um and it's like

you know one expected queen elizabeth to be queen for so fucking long it's like charles is old yeah and it really would be perfect to have like william go next because as far as i know like as just a fan like william really is like that guy for the job it seems as though his personality from what we can gather from books like these from finding these forces that he is a monarch through right through and i think like back to back elizabeth and will William would just be stellar for the country. Stellar. So I really enjoyed it.

I also watched She's the Man on Friday night. You just really inspired me. And I was just lit up from inside, like lit from within. Not a wasted moment. Not a wasted moment. Not a wasted joke. I couldn't believe how many things like we say in everyday life

or like inflections in our voice that we 100 picked up from amanda mines i mean and we spoke about this a little bit it's a hard content upper like if you are down or you need someone to watch you're like feeling lonely it's the perfect movie to watch it's on hbo max it's short it's to the point there's amazing music move along like at the end when they're like i fucking love that song come on baby we ain't gonna live forever like really an iconic early 2000s soundtrack obviously like part like towards the end when you're like on this like elated mood um you come down quickly just like knowing amanda

binds and like how hollywood like just didn't take care of her and it's upsetting but you can forget it for like that one hour and a half and ch Channing Tatum is so fabulous. And Tobias Fumke as the president. I mean, the principal. Such a good movie. Such a good recommendation. And really like made my weekend. Wow. I'd love to hear that.

I watched another movie that is on our content upper short list. That, again, just like oozed goodness. What was it? The Other Woman. Oh my God. Watched it. Sensational. Surround. Phone down. And i've seen it so many times and when you've seen the movie so many times you can watch you

can look at different things in the movie and like it holds up every single time so happy to hear that every single time you guys if you need another content upper the other woman and then i just wanted to give an update for the second time i tried to finish the kissing booth and i was unsuccessful um it got like kind of better and then i watched their like dance dance revolution mega tournament to win fifty thousand dollars it was so fucking stupid i couldn't and it's just it totally lost the magic i can't even go into it because i'm so hard on it and it's just it's not good and i just i want to let to let everyone know i still haven't finished it okay thank you for the update what i watched is i finished season three of dynasty i had paused it for a little because i was watching week to week

and it was just too stupid honestly um so i was like i'll just binge it when it's all on netflix which i did and it's the way to watch it because there were some stupid plot lines but like there were so many moments of just like pure like fallon liam blake crystal goodness fabulosity yeah and i was just like this show is so funny and good, and even though there are some really fucking dumbass storylines, and you know a storyline is really fucking dumb when a show or a movie has to make up a country name.

Oh, my God. Unless Moldavia is a real place. Let me check. I don't think so, but you know what? The only successful um franchise to ever make up a country is genovia of course jackie moldova moldova is a place it's moldavia where they were moldavia hold on on wikipedia is a historical region the moldavian country in an

old romanian cyrillic alpha what i have no idea but it's a place. Okay, I'm pretty sure that they made up a country. It was initially independent and later autonomous state. It existed from the 14th century to 1859. Doesn't exist anymore. Okay, so they made up a country so that they... The storyline was absurd, but I mean, my favorite people were there. It is now Romania. The western half of Moldavia is now Romania, and the eastern side belongs to the republic of moldova okay well in the show

they were dealing with the king of maldavia making it a country wait that sounds so stupid no it was so stupid they were trapped in a dungeon it was so fucking dumb like it was insane but this season actually turned out really nicely i this was season three and our third version of crystal and i really hope season four brings a different crystal oh really crystal 3.0 is my least favorite are we still on the crystal with a really long black hair she i don't know if crystal 1.0 or 2.0 was my favorite crystal but really crystal 2.0 grew on me so much and when it's a new character like you already dislike them so i grew to the point of loving her. So I actually think I liked her more than Crystal 1.0. I liked Crystal 1.0.

I know. I loved them both. Crystal 3.0, I really do not like. I stopped watching the show. And so I don't know who 3.0 is. You wouldn't know her. She just, she's the same person as, like, at least 2.0 was, like, 1.0 died. 2.0 was a new person. Right. 3.0 is playing the same person that 2.0 played. like, 1.0 died. 2.0 was a new person.

Right. 3.0 is playing the same person that 2.0 played. And she's just not doing her justice whatsoever. I'm sorry that that happened to you. So I really hope we get a 4.0 next season. Also, Elaine Hendricks, who is the stepmom from Parent Trap, is now Alexis Carrington, and she nails it. Love that.

They should have cast her to begin with. She's fucking fabulous. She's a fabulous actress. And the show is actually really good, so I know a lot of people watch Dynasty. I'm sure you're all caught up. But even if it gets a little weird at certain storylines, like the streaming service at the soccer game,

if you ever watch it, just, Claudia. That sounds horrible. It's one of the dumbest storylines ever. my least favorite thing is like okay so in one episode fallon has launched a media company like her seventh venture oh my god okay and her media company is starting a streaming service fallon unlimited streaming service whatever and blake is also starting a competing streaming service oh my god wait so they both have like competing launches like it's a streaming war of a soccer game oh my god like it's fireworks but it literally goes up in flames and it was like such a big deal this the streaming service the streaming service how could blake

launch a streaming service when i'm launching a streaming service so dumb you can only suspend disbelief after that episode the word streaming service is never uttered again like it's like it wasn't like it's so unimportant like it's like oh that's so dumb it was so annoying so that was when i had to take a break but now i'm caught up so good i am also watching the newest season of queen of the south i think i have one or two more episodes left it's such a good show and i'm just loving it so if you are looking for like a good drama queen of the south it's on netflix also we're going to recap real housewives of potomac we did new york and beverly hills last week on the toast but for our weekly episodes

moving forward you'll have all the housewives recaps but this week's just potomac it was a great episode it was all really centered around ashley's like coming out dinner she said she's dealing with some sort of postpartum she doesn't really leave the house um but actually i i find her um this season to be a lot more relatable in a lot of ways. She's, like, not trying so hard to be, like, everything. And she's really focused on her kid, and I feel like it really humanizes her. And actually, I'm starting to like her. And honestly, whoever is friends with Monique, like, I feel is, like, she's a good judge of character.

100%. And even though this episode was, like, nothing crazy, what made it so good is we had a moment that we've been waiting five seasons for four seasons which is Giselle and Moeen coming together and realizing like why are we always beefing so hard when we should just be having a good time I agree and like they're my favorites and I'm happy about it but something from Giselle's side seems so phony like she doesn't really care about Ashley like I just don't believe that and her like going so above and beyond for this party when it was like Monique's idea Monique got the gift basket together i'm sure monique made the reservation like giselle just like really piggybacking like we planned this and we wanted to say and we we

like it was just a little phony for me because and i think she's like seeing it from the audience of the viewer like karen's friends with ashley monique's friends with ashley like you just got to get on board yeah and and and she didn't want to be alienated with candace for the girls who are not friends with ashley ashley yeah i i hear that even though it's so weird that ashley is like the cornerstone when she's hasn't shown up to anything yet yeah she like obviously all this stuff last season with her husband like it's still pretty weird and there's it develops this season to think about like it's not over no i don't know maybe they just felt bad that she really like had a rough time last season now she's a new mom and

maybe they're just like beating decent people very possible um the dinner actually looked fabulous like i really wanted to be at that restaurant we got more wendy i actually really like her she made a hilarious comment um like under her breath she didn't say much at the dinner because she's like still new to the group but when they were all talking about like women have had like the women having sex she was like karen has sex it was just like a funny like kind of outlandish thing and i think it was like a window into her personality into what we might get i mean we haven't we've got like a little um inside look at like her house and stuff but we don't know i really don't know anything about her no but uh she's a professor and it just was like making me realize like we've

never really had like a professorial housewife we've never had like an academic no i don't like we've had doctors lawyers but we've never had like an academic. No, I don't. Like we've had doctors, lawyers, but we've never had a professor. And I'm actually really excited because it really is so interesting to think of like your professor as a real housewife. No, and then it's like, do her students watch? And yeah, like now we're so used to like,

okay, my therapist might be a real housewife. My lawyer could be a real housewife. My doctor. But like your professor, so exciting. Yeah, you think academia is like this separate world but now it's being converged it's very exciting i agree and she's a professor at johns hopkins which is no small feat no small feat she's very impressive i actually like her a lot um so we have to talk about the elephant in the room which is just like candace's like whole persona everything about candace and it's hard because we really should like her you know

because she's so cute so cute and i did like her in the beginning and i know and it was an unpopular opinion of me to like her and i knew she was like annoying i liked her when she came on the scene because she's so cute and and spunky and she has so much personality and she stands by what she says but now after like two or three seasons of knowing her and like one her storylines between her mother and her husband like it couldn't be less interesting and they never evolve it's like the same thing every first episode of every season it's like again money mom and as much as i like that she stands by what she says like she needs to learn how to pick her battles and how to apologize and she doesn't need to go so hard

for everything. The formula of a great housewife isn't someone who's right about everything. Like, that's impossible. It helps, but. It helps, but, like, you're going to make mistakes, and you really alienate people when you, like, refuse to take accountability and just own it and say sorry. Like, no one's going to, we're going to move on, but, like, you keep the conversation going and not in your favor when you just refuse to apologize. She's, like, so childish in that way where she can't see it from anyone else's perspective and like it's just her way or the

highway and not to mention that incredibly stupid scene we got of her taking a pregnancy test when right after that chris her husband said we don't even have sex and then at dinner she said we wear condoms right so if you barely have sex and you wear condoms and she didn't mention like being late or anything like why would you think that you're pregnant she's just like really like crafting like an image on i don't feel like anything she shares is authentic no not at all like she literally woke up one morning said i guess i'll take a pregnancy test and like try and make fetch happen in this scene because of it and honestly i was way more interested in what chris was cooking totally i would love for her to walk down and be like

please explain this breakfast sandwich that you're making i think it was like an egg and spinach sandwich it looked really good and interesting unlike this fake pregnancy news that she tried to like spawn yeah and they kept like teasing it in like the whole coming up this season i peed on a stick you know and it was just it was a big ball of nothing and similar to that a big ball of nothing was a conversation between juan and giselle that they also kept teasing he's like does robin know we're here obviously he was asking for they're about to hook up no it's so stupid and like i actually thought that conversation was sweet because i do think giselle and robin's friendship is really sweet

and like giselle was so genuinely happy for her friend. So I thought it was sweet. But like just like the click bait-y. Right. It was bothering me so much. We've evolved past this. With the pee on the stick. And then with the lunch with Giselle and Juan. It bothered me.

Yeah. And I think I'm at a place with Candice now. Where it's like for a housewife. There's two things. It's like one. Do I like the way that you interact with the ladies? If I do or if I don't. Do I also like your home personal life scenes?

And with Candice. I'm out on both right now. And it's not good. It's not good. I agree. Especially when, like, there's so much fabulosity in the room. Yes. Oh, my God.

And it's like, I feel like we've gotten so much more personal stuff from Candace and, like, Robin this season when I would honestly like more Monique and some little Karen Huger because there's a lot of interesting things going on in her marriage and we got that very weird conversation in the kitchen where Ray was like very snippy yeah and it's like they will air the scene of Candace fake having a pregnancy with her husband but they won't air the scene where Ashley and Giselle are talking and Ashley tells Giselle that Candace is trying to become friends with Sharice like that is the tea yeah no and I'm like they flash back to that like it was no big deal I'm like did I miss that that was like the the most important part of the episode it's like

no we watched Candace in her kitchen we watched her pee on a stick it's so stupid and we heard the flush sound like they were so intricate like it was it was bothering me but the flush it was a good episode and honestly like I just cannot wait for this big blow up because it looks just. And I know I'm going to be on Monique's side. There's not a thing she's ever said or done where I'm like, that is not my girl. And a personal update in Monique's life is that a few days ago, T'Challa, her bird, flew away, got lost by accident. And everyone in the Potomac neighborhood was like really like coming out and looking for

him. And as of last night, he flew home and she was like literally crying on her instagram it was beautiful wow i love that for her monique that's beautiful also sharice is like in the mix she'll be on next episode but these rumors about monique and her trainer that's like the big to do when when they were um like speaking like about the rumors and they were never telling us what they were i'm not gonna lie i did assume it was like an affair but her husband cheating on her i really never thought monique yeah i mean here's the thing when it's like kind of like brandy glendale like a former housewife like trying to make a splash and maybe get back on the show if monique was stepping out with her trainer in public like in 2020 or 2019 like someone has a

photo of it yeah right if it's not that and maybe monique and charisse were close and monique confided in her then that's also still not fodder for this show because monique should be able to tell her friends things off camera just like brandy glanville yep denise etc so no matter how you slice it i'm not interested not yet unless there picture. Yeah, or unless it's true. Right, no, unless there's some sort of proof. Yeah, agreed. But overall, honestly, Potomac is just good, I think, no matter what, because the girls on their own are just, like, funny and interesting,

and, like, even if there's nothing going on, they're just funny. Yeah, and there was nothing going on in this episode, and it was enjoyable. Yeah. Oh, my God, that scene with the, like, lactating coach. When she put her mouth on the knitted nipple has nipple the knitted nipple that was crazy crazy but it worked actually it was like it worked it was working flawlessly but that was wild insanity i actually figured you would really like that scene because you are fascinated by lactation i'm that well since olivia is breastfeeding i'm

just like fascinated by the female body and its miraculous functions. Right. And so I thought that maybe you would have appreciated that scene. I did. If it was for anyone, any viewer, it was for you. Okay. We're going to dive into Dear Toasters because it is Wednesday, which is our favorite day here. Oh, my God.

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Okay, dear Toasters. Hi, Claude, Jack, and Theo. Love you all. I have a friend who I've recently reconnected with. We were friends in high school, went to different colleges, and then now we live in the same city. Go Boston. Before the quarantine, myself and my friend, let's call her Cindy, and all of our friends were all going out a lot

and meeting up and doing really fun post-grad stuff. But every time we go out, Cindy seems to forget her wallet or ask us to Venmo her and she just ignores our request when we send them. At her request, we go to pretty nice places and she always seems to get away with it for free. My friends are now getting on my case

that I've brought this person into the group who doesn't seem to understand that we need to split the bill equally i have no idea what to do do i bring it up do i stop inviting her out i feel like i'm at risk of losing my friends for being the one to bring her into the group sorry for the rant but i need help thank you yeah this is a problem your friend cindy delvey yeah cindy delvey cousin of anna literally this is like one of my least favorite qualities in a person and i think the best way to handle it is just outright like she's being so shameless like you'd be shameless back she oh i forgot my wallet really again yeah so then i would be like okay everyone's we're not going to give the credit cards to the waitress until cindy

accepts our venmo yeah no or you text her like i think that sometimes i mean for me i'm always just like okay i'm never seeing you again like you're making things awkward with my other friendships. There's clearly something so fishy with someone who forgets their wallet every single time and doesn't pay Venmo charges and demands that you go to the most expensive restaurant. You can't be all three. You cannot be all three. So, for me, I would obviously cut and run, but that is not the mature thing to do. So, I do think that you should tell her, like, the group is upset that you have not paid like your bill you've got to pay your tab and that moving forward like you need to be more on top of these things and i would say i

can't invite you to come to dinner with us until you pay back the money that you owe us and i'm sorry but that's just and i would even put it on the rest of the group because they are the ones saying i would be like i'm sorry that's just what they said i mean if you don't if you like like her a lot then you have to solve the problem but if you don't even like hanging out with her like just get rid of her because this is a problem like nobody wants but it seems like you like her and you want to keep inviting her and like this is something you just you cannot beat around the bush about it's not like you're hurting her feelings like she is straight up not paying like it's not it's not black and white i mean it is black and white it's not fucking gray you have to be just as shameless as she is like i'm so like i love i avoid like controversy and actually no i don't

i avoid confrontation sorry um and i and i do everything i can to avoid it but this is a situation where you just got to be shameless because she's being shameless she would just be up front be up front and i would just write a long text that's like very politely worded be like hey like some of the girls and i are going to go to dinner next week and i would love to invite you but unfortunately you owe all of us like a good amount of money so if you could please like send through the venmo charges that um we've sent to you that way like you can come next week otherwise it's just not fair if we're all paying and you're not that's insane if i forget my wallet which honestly happens a lot i feel so bad i send the venmo before everyone else's credit cards are even run like because i really don't want people thinking i'm like trying to be shady i just like

legit switch bags and i'm dumb and i forgot my wallet and if you're gonna be that person like who's like ditzy like you have to pay the venmo yes of course i mean i don't know if she's being ditzy no she's shady this seems like an anna delvey situation just like trying to get nice meals and nice hotel rooms and not wanting to pay for it and you know what like there's no such thing as a free lunch. You're going to lose some friends. Yeah. And you got to be up front here.

Yeah. You got to put your foot down. All right. Thanks for writing in. Sorry about that. You work hard. That's the thing. Taking advantage of like they're all post-grad.

They're probably like all, you know, on their own. Paying their own bills. Like money is tight at that stage in your life. own paying their own bills like money is tight at that stage in your life and like to have no respect for the other people who are like working new jobs and spending their money on like time with their friends and like just to like have no respect for that like that actually really bothers me yeah yeah you work too hard to put up with this shit yeah all right next up claude and jack how you doing literally been with y'all since the breath ain't going anywhere buckle up my mom has this guy she grew up with in spain called sam who has literally always been in love with her but she left for america and

has been married to my dad who's a p-jump for almost 30 years oh i could tell anyway her mom has recently lost a ton of weight and is snatched my sister was on her phone and saw that they were messaging each other the mom and sam okay i changed person sorry i went from first person sorry my sister was on my mom's phone and saw that they were messaging each other lots of complimenting her weight loss and other basically harmless messages my dad does not like sam because hello he isn't married 30 years later and is still in love with my mom i asked my mom if my dad knew about her and sam talking and she begged me not to tell my dad so i didn't well about three months ago my mom and i were driving

and my mom said she had to tell me that sam sent her a nude on messenger my mom swear she deleted the photo and told him that she's married and she can never do that again well my mom again begged me not to tell my dad and said she would stop talking to sam i obliged fast forward a week my my sister being the snitch that she is was snooping in my mom's iphone again and found more messages i was livid i called my mom out told her she has to stop and tell my dad about the picture i've even dragged my brother into it telling him and he is beyond mad at my mom she has yet to tell my dad i'm so hesitant to tell my dad because he struggles with depression and i don't want to set him off sos help what should i do tell my dad how do i tell him or let my mom figure her shit out sincerely a brother slash toaster with some mama

drama i actually like totally disagree with this girl. Okay, I disagree too. And I was about to say that. And then for a second I was like, imagine if the roles were reversed. And this was the dad talking to, like, an old flame who sent him a nude. And, like, the mom had depression issues. And, like, he, like, I don't know why. No, by the way, if it was reverse gender, you're right.

Because we have these constructs in our head. I would give the same advice. Just given the fact, like, your parents seem to have a good marriage, and your mom doesn't actually seem to be into Sam. Like, she told you, her daughter, that he sent you a nude. Like, she obviously thinks it's, like, crazy. I don't think he's, I do think he's harmless. And I think, like, honestly, you're making kind of a big deal out of it. And making your mom, like, sit your dad down and tell him.

Honestly, I think it's, like, a little dramatic. Your mom's open about it. She's not not lying so on i think you're being dramatic i don't think it needs to be really spoken about and like you running around and telling all your siblings i actually don't agree with you i don't agree with that either and that is what i was gonna say i think that they've been friends for 30 years like nothing has happened he lives in spain yep i don't think anything's gonna happen your mom and your dad are happily married and if she wanted to go be with sam like she would go and she would be with him and she wouldn't be telling her kids that he sent her a nude also tell your sister to stop going through her mom's phone it's so disrespectful so disrespectful totally forgot about that point too a hundred percent yeah like your parents deserve privacy everyone is entitled to privacy

it's such a pet peeve of mine like unless you really think someone is up to something like cheating or something illegal maybe that is cause for getting a warrant and going through their phone like getting um a moral warrant yep but i really think that people are entitled to their privacy yeah if you go through anyone's phone you're gonna find some stuff that it's like i wish i didn't see that well guess what i'll tell you one way to not see it don't go through their phone 100 don't go through their phone 100 you know like everyone you asked for this problem honestly like you kept searching like if you go on anyone's phone like i'm sure i could go on your phone yeah and dig deep and then be like oh claudia does this yeah of course and vice versa and like we're just people like we're people everyone deserves

privacy especially your parents because it's super disrespectful and honestly you don't you seem to like be annoyed that this is your problem, yet you keep getting yourself in deeper. Yeah, and bringing people in, telling everyone in the house except your dad. And I think you're making it a bigger deal than it is. Agreed 100%. Like when it's just two adults, long-lost friends who are sharing some pics. It's harmless. Even the pic, it's weird, but it's not a big deal.

I mean, it's not a big deal because he's not coming over. He lives in Spain. It's been, but it's not a big deal. I mean, it's like, it's not a big deal because he's not coming over. He lives in Spain. It's been 30 years. And also there's a travel, like, quarantine ban. Totally. You're fine. You're fine. All right, third and final one.

Dear Claudia and Jackie, little backstory. My roommate in college named Betty started dating an amazing guy freshman year, James. Oh. Someone is using the names from Taylor Swift. You don't think that she wrote up the premise of the two songs and posed it as a problem for dear toasters we'll see that would actually be so funny oh my god so betty and james started dating they were couple goals james is the nicest guy in the world he's athletic smart driven rich and good looking it seemed like he

was the total package for my friend to be with i couldn't be happier for her betty and i'd love to go out and party just like all the other basic college girls but that was never james's scene which was fine during our frequent nights out betty ended up making a serious connection with another guy from our school named tim tim and betty would spend all their time together while we were out drinking and then leave and go home to james and inez no kidding five years later betty was still seeing both guys oh my god she was seeing tim that's what she's saying okay but she just said that they like had a connection when they were out drinking and they would talk and then she would go home to her boyfriend not a crime not a crime but now

it's an affair she said five years later betty is still seeing james and tim okay they never knew about each other and she managed to keep up with her double life dating both tim and james for all these years this girl is my hero like that's so hard no i can barely hang on to my husband like i'm like i'm always forgetting stuff like how does she do it yeah i should add that her social media account is like neither of them exist our boys really that's stupid i've always been one of three people who knew the whole truth about betty one time one of the three tried to speak out and just like that she was exiled blocked and then freaked out what sorry sorry i've always been one of three people

who know the whole truth about Betty. Oh, one of the three people. One of the three people tried to speak out and just like that she was exile blocked and freaked out on. Therefore, I just let Betty do her thing and keep myself out of the mess and her drama. And I just have to say,

I think that's a great road to take, but things obviously get more complicated. Fast forward to today and James proposes to Betty, who of course says yes. Now because of the new rock on her finger she called him and told him everything she also asked him to wait for her because she plans to break off the engagement eventually but let's be honest as I said James is the whole package she would be a

godforsaken fool to leave such a great guy I love how she phrased that Tim the sad little naive puppy that he is basically agreed to wait for her and he is choosing to keep his mouth shut about her relationship with him until James and leaving James in the dark oh my god i've been thinking about james non-stop and how i know he's about to make the worst decision of his life marrying someone who has been cheating on him for five years all three of these people are my friends so i always try to stay out of it but i'm not sure i can let james go through with this how do i sit at his wedding and support this lie of a marriage do i tell james the whole truth or sit back wait and hope all this either blows up or blows over thank you in advance for what i'm sure is terrific advice i just have to say she's saying that betty is eventually going to break off the engagement

but she's worried that she's going to be sitting at james and betty's wedding yeah betty's not breaking off the engagement she's going to take this shit all the way because this is just her life and this is who she is and she's stringing tim along because she still wants him around but if she was going to break off the engagement why wouldn't she do it right now my question is does the girl writing in know james at all if not through betty it sounds like friend's boyfriend five years of friendship that's that's a long time stay out of it yeah i mean if you want to get into it this feels like a movie plot to me or like the plot of three songs on the folklore album yeah um so like a part of me is tempted to be like write a letter or set like plan a surprise party for Betty where you invite James and Tim yeah and watch it all implode um but

life is not a movie unfortunately and if you if you if Betty is your girl and like she's your priority then you stay out of it because you care about your friends being happy and you don't. This girl's insane. But that is, that is truly certifiably insane. Like if this were a man that we were talking about and he was living a double life for five years, like we would be like, this person is a sociopath. And we would tell the girl to like look out for the other girls. Right. I totally would.

So, I mean, as much as like like i don't think you should get involved in other people's drama like sometimes you have to do a good deed and save a person from a terrible life yeah you know what this actually might be the perfect situation to write a letter a la ronnie and sam yeah dear james then you you have to know that if it gets out like and betty wants to know who wrote it like and you might have to say it was you like you'll lose your friendship right because there's only one of three people who know but like i don't know letting someone go down that road you're honestly you're doing it a disservice to betty too it's like she's in a mess you could really help her out even though my mantra in life is just like

stay out of it but you're right like this guy james who's such a nice guy is like literally wasting years and years prime years of his life. Yeah. I think you gotta do the mitzvah for James. You do? I don't know. It just feels too wrong. I guess. I'm looking at this too much like a movie and not like real life, you know? Because in real life, people suck.

I know. This does give me major movie vibes. Yeah. But you heard the rumors from Inez. You can't believe a word she says. But this time it was real. But this time they were true. yeah this is on you i mean i guess you're writing to us for advice and we're like literally just going over the two possible routes and like we're not giving you my my thing is to stay out of it like you know what life is hard enough people make their own beds

they have to lay in it like you're busy you have life you have you have a life you have relationships you have a job like focus on yourself and let other people sleep in their shitty ass beds and my advice is do something about it because i feel bad for these people and maybe like leak it to a source close to james yeah you know and then like it's like giving it to rinna and hoping she tells denise yeah oh that's a good idea like it's maybe the secret just should should be a little looser yeah like don't tell him directly but like don't shield it from maybe his mother oh i love that no that's so crazy like from his friend or his sister yeah sister sister yeah sister um so that's dear toasters and that's our show we hope you guys enjoyed this episode yeah we'll see you guys next week we'll have again dear toasters all of our tv recap um anything you want us to talk about

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