The Toast - S3 Ep147: The Reality TV Salary Cap: Tuesday, September 15th, 2020

Episode Date: September 15, 2020

Jerry Harris from 'Cheer' under FBI investigation for allegedly soliciting sex from minors (USA Today) Khloe Kardashian and Scott Disick wanted to continue 'KUWTK' for easy payday (Page Six)... Leah McSweeney is being stiffed by Bravo for Season 2, insider says (NY Post) Drew Barrymore on her new talk show: 'The rule book is on fire' (NY Post) Family of Carole Baskin's missing ex-husband airs ad during 'DWTS' (Page Six) Dancing With The Stars Recap The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoproblems) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone is having a fabulous, beautiful day. It is like a chilly day here in New York. I know. And it's getting me excited for like sweater weather, like chubby girl weather. Like that is where I thrive. We're falling into fall. I'm actually wearing a sweater today. I just jumped right in because I saw it was 55 degrees this morning. But I'm still wearing shorts because, you know, I'm confused. degrees this morning but I'm still wearing shorts because you know I'm confused I um couldn't have moved out of the shorts phase of the year fast enough I got a lot of comments about how like still in the like dead of June and July I was wearing jeans um and it was mostly because I just didn't want to wear shorts and like tan my legs and shave my legs and just like the responsibility that comes with bearing legs yeah um and as soon as we got back I was the first to
Starting point is 00:00:42 put these jeans back on you like jean weather legging weather top shop stretchy jeans oversized sweaters nothing like people crave you know the Christmas season like they love that I love the when the summer days like slowly dwindle out and it's fully fall and you can get away with maybe like wearing a windbreaker yeah I feel that I also feel like this show is weather agnostic. Like, you could be watching any given episode of our show and not know what season it is. And I'm proud of us for that. Well, yes, I think it's important that before you comment about our outfits, please remember we're in an air-conditioned unit.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Like, while yes... But, like, sometimes it's not cool enough. No, for sure. But, like, while yes, you could judge our outfits based on the weather outside. You could. Why don't you just trust that we are doing the best things for ourselves we're just like in a bubble you know and what happens at the toast like has nothing to do with what's going on outside this is really like a simulation in here it's just it ain't real yeah so i'm glad that we're just indifferent we're actually kind of in the same season similar because like for me most like this is jeans in a t-shirt weather, but I don't fuck with that.
Starting point is 00:01:45 So for me, it's like I wear long on top, short on bottom, even though I don't know what kind of legs I think I have that I have to be bearing them all the time. That's so funny because my mantra is literally shorts on top. Yep. Long on bottom. Yeah. But it's, you know, it's really the same thing. Would you rather have cold arms or cold legs?
Starting point is 00:02:01 Cold arms. For sure. Yeah. I don't know why I feel like the world needs to see my legs you don't be don't be embarrassed okay thanks you look great I really miss Theo today because yesterday he hopped up on the couch but right before he did like he covered like a big chunk of thigh for me oh yes Theo being on your couch is actually you can use him to your advantage if you want to strategically place him to make yourself look cuter or just like angle yourself
Starting point is 00:02:22 it's actually a blessing to have him here usually it is but he has a big day today big day getting his haircut he didn't get his haircut the entire time we were away his hair is like filled with knots in his ears we got out as many as we could but i'm really grateful that his groomer's coming today and he's gonna smell so good and be so fresh and so clean and i actually think theo probably lost a few pounds while we were away that's why it's so exciting i was gonna say he definitely shedded a few lbs while we were gone because we were like so active and like quarantine's been really hard on like him specifically I'm not even joking because he hasn't left his house yeah he's just eating his feelings and so he definitely lost a few pounds like he was going on hikes every single day but his hair grew so much that I don't think
Starting point is 00:03:01 you were able to see like a visually how much weight he lost. You weren't able to see like the svelte curve of his waist. Right. So the vet says that like the proper like weight for Theo's breed, I don't know if this is for every dog, is like you shouldn't be able to see their ribs, but you should be able to feel them. And honestly, his ribs were getting like harder and harder to feel recently. So after his journey, he went to like a retreat like Sonia Morgan. He's feeling and doing a lot
Starting point is 00:03:25 better thank you guys so much for asking so i'm really excited i'm really i'm excited to see him tomorrow like with his new crop and it'll be hump day so oh perfect timing able to hump someone you love and and that someone you love will be looking good i absolutely love to see it we have a fabulous show for you guys i actually watched so much tv last night and everything i feel like um is worth discussing sometimes i watch stuff and like it's just not I watched the Paracels documentary which was fascinating I it's on my list it's good things to watch I watched the extended cut version because like when I searched into youtube it was like do you want to watch the extended cut or not so I'm like extended right yeah the more the merrier I don't know what I saw that wasn't in
Starting point is 00:04:01 the original though I also watched the social Actually, I watched like 75% of it because towards the end it was just giving me like such bad anxiety. And I watched Dancing with the Stars. Great. I watched Love Island. Still like nothing to share. And what's frustrating is now I'm like six episodes behind.
Starting point is 00:04:18 But I can't like, I don't know what anyone else thinks about these people because I won't go on Twitter because they're talking about like six episodes ahead. They're talking about people who haven't even come to the island yet so I'm just like watching Love Island on an island yeah that's annoying but um the best part of watching a show like when you're late is like the second you catch up is just like rolling over and like going on Instagram like following the people on Instagram
Starting point is 00:04:38 and you hesitate to do it when you're catching up because you don't want to accidentally spoil anything for yourself so that moment when you can just like finally go is the best I'm looking forward to that for you yeah I've been looking at their instagrams but I just like scroll past the first six photos really quickly like if they are in the house or if they posted their goodbye or farewell like I didn't see it and I went to like their post from before the show which is also so interesting and like everyone on the show is an influencer model etc and so that's how it should be yeah it is it is how it should be. It's weird. You know, what is weird? Like some of these, especially the girls like are really like Instagram girls. And then you see them on TV and it's like interesting to see what Instagram girls like
Starting point is 00:05:12 look like off of Instagram. Yeah. I mean, that's like our whole generation, you know, but it's crazy because they really like are that supremely good looking. Oh, that's good. You know? Yeah. But it's like, oh, like sometimes you see people on Instagram and you're like, how is that a person real? And then you see them in the real world, like, oh no, you're like a stunning person, but you're a real person. Right. But you're also not like that real. Like what you look like on Instagram is like slightly not what you look like. Like slightly, but there's no one who's like two different people. Well, that's what the social dilemma was teaching me. It's like, can you imagine being like a 13 year old right now no like no actually because you know when you like put your phone on you and you're about to
Starting point is 00:05:51 take a story like you literally can't even look at your camera unless the filter's on like I literally will not look at if I'm on Instagram stories about to record a story I literally won't look at my cell phone like until I get to my coconut filter which is my favorite one Yulia Kors she makes fabulous she makes the best ones right yeah um and it's like can you and like it's funny like when we talk about but can you imagine being like such an impressionable 13 year old and like having that and you're wearing like this the unrealistic standard of beauty and then like you're also 13 and like you can't look at yourself without a filter yeah i don't know i think it i i think it's like so damaging for sure but i think sometimes like it swings both ways because on the other hand like a 13 year old girl has people like when we were 13 we were reading magazines where the covers were
Starting point is 00:06:29 like completely airbrushed and like these were the only people that we had to look up to and like we never even saw a real photo of them never but like a 13 year old girl like yes she does see the Instagram model and she sees herself and she can't look at herself with a out of filter and that's problematic but she also has girls like Emma Chamberlain who are like going on Instagram or YouTube without makeup and just being themselves and like also and so it goes both ways but it is extremely damaging well that's what the documentary said they had all these like Silicon Valley former Silicon Valley people who were like really there for the start of like Google and they were engineers at Facebook and Twitter and Pinterest and they were and they said in the beginning they're like we like we knew that all the technology we were creating could do so much good
Starting point is 00:07:08 we had no idea it was going to be doing as much bad as it ended up doing and like that's like that's what it is it's like of course it's honestly like think about like think about any piece of media or like anything it's like our facebook groups like we started out thinking it'll just be so much good connecting people around the world. Literally turned into a clusterfuck dumpster fire of shit. And that really is like tech. I agree.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And I also think, as much as I'm trying to look on the bright side, I think when you weigh all the pros and cons, like which way does the scale tip, I personally think it's more negative of course I know but you could also make the argument technology yes it brought on a dumpster fire of a Facebook group but it also saves lives like you know people are doing like you always see those Microsoft commercials with what they're doing with technology totally and that is in the positive
Starting point is 00:08:00 column I mean I think like if if you needed to be persuaded as to whether social media has done more good than bad literally like I think the most interesting thing I learned from the social dilemma is that like after 2010 um self-inflicted harm like hospital check-ins and suicide attempt heart uh check-ins from girls like age 12 to 16 literally quadrupled. Maybe it's like 180% up. So it's like, how can you even? And like the whole movie was giving me anxiety. And then it was like, you want to check your phone? I'm like, yeah, I do want to check my phone.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I always, I'm like on my phone while I'm watching TV. And they were like talking about it. So I like couldn't check my phone. I didn't want to like let them win, you know? Yeah. So I'm just like aware now, but. I'm going to watch that. That sounds really
Starting point is 00:08:45 interesting it was very um dense but here also one less I guess I'm not recapping it in the tv recap but I just wanted to talk about it um the most interesting thing that I thought and like it's not like a revolutionary thing I just like had never thought of it before Facebook and like all these programs they are free free to use, right? So you think that you're a customer of Facebook, right? Um, sure. Yeah. But you're not because you don't pay. Essentially the advertisers are the customers are the customers and we are the product because we're being sold to advertisers. And did you know there's only two, um um industries where the customers are called the users and it's drugs and social media oh my god yeah shit like that is crazy yeah because it's like
Starting point is 00:09:35 we're addicted to drugs we're addicted to tech and it makes you think we are addicted to tech i mean like the movie was like very do they talk about privacy have you been seeing those apple commercials the new apple commercials that are like they're now selling that they're like best for privacy? So it's like people like in random places in the city just like sharing really personal things about themselves that they like looked up on their phone. They're like, you know, I ordered four pregnancy tests and prenatal vitamins. It's like some things you don't want to share with everyone. Right. tests and prenatal vitamins. It's like some things you don't want to share with everyone.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Right. So now they're like, it's funny how in order to buy a phone now, like the most enticing thing is like how secure it is. Yeah, I guess. It was an interesting commercial. It was a good documentary. I think you would enjoy it. Okay. Check it out. Okay. You guys would enjoy it too. Sweet. Maybe we'll like, I'll talk about it sometime this week. Exciting. So exciting. Okay. Let's get into the stories because there's some things to discuss. Yes, there is. There are some things to discuss. I have like a pit about one of the stories. It's the story.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Jerry. Yeah. I like honestly like I don't want to talk about it, but like we have to. It's the story. Yeah. So without further ado, here are the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. And that's true.
Starting point is 00:10:45 But just speaking of this on the subject of mental health, and we've been speaking about it a lot, today's episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. BetterHelp will assess your needs and match you with your own licensed professional therapist. You can start communicating with a therapist in under 48 hours. It is not a crisis line. It is a self-help professional counseling done securely online. They have a broad range of expertise available, which may not be locally available to you in many areas. It is not a crisis line. It is a self-help professional counseling done securely online. They have a broad range of expertise available, which may not be locally available to you in many areas.
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Starting point is 00:12:42 Biggest story is Jerry Harris from Cheer, the Netflix documentary, is under FBI investigation for allegedly soliciting sex from minors. The FBI is investigating allegations that celebrity cheerleader Jerry Harris solicited sexually explicit photos and sex from minors, multiple sources told USA Today. Agents executed a search warrant Monday afternoon at a home in Napperville, Illinois, as part of that investigation. executed a search warrant Monday afternoon at a home in Napperville, Illinois, as part of that investigation. Quote, the FBI is conducting court-authorized law enforcement activity in the area, Siobhan Johnson, FBI special agent and public affairs officer, told USA Today.
Starting point is 00:13:16 She declined further comment. Harris, who gained national prominence when he was featured in Netflix's Cheer docuseries, has not been criminally charged, and he did not respond to a request for comment. The criminal investigation is based on allegations brought by 14 year old twin brothers in interviews with USA Today the boys described a pattern of harassment both online at cheer competitions that started when they were 13 and Harris was 19 they said it continued for more than a year those allegations were also reported to police by varsity brands a private company that dominates the cheerleading industry, handling everything from uniform sales to major competitions. Harris is accused of asking one of the brothers to have sex with him in 2019 at two Varsity
Starting point is 00:13:55 cheerleading competitions. In August 1st, letters to, I'm sorry, in August 1 letter to police in Florida and Texas, Varsity's chief legal officer, Burton Brillhart, said the company had learned of inappropriate sexual conduct allegations against Harris and was reporting the information to authorities as required by the law. I mean, this is such a crazy story. Like, when I read the headline Olivia sent to me, like, my jaw hit the floor.
Starting point is 00:14:23 This is so surprising. This is so surprising so surprising I mean he hasn't been criminally charged yet so we'll see what happens but the FBI doesn't just you know no get involved on a whim no not at all and it's a really really big deal it's just like crazy um but you know what I was actually reading in Toast After Dark there was a thread about it and there were a lot of people who have been in the cheer world and they they said, unfortunately, like, this is a problem in the cheer world. Like, within squads and just in the community. Interesting. And they weren't surprised to hear about it.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Oh. Considering, like, the culture of cheerleading. Which just, like, underscores this point that I feel like we have to make more and more often on this show. Which is that we need to be protecting our young people. And we need to be creating safe spaces for them. And why is it that like these safe spaces for them, which I would think cheerleading, these extracurricular activities,
Starting point is 00:15:10 we know in gymnastics, like that these are actually the most unsafe places for young people. And that is just like the hypocrisy of the world. Like the fact that we carve out these, like sports are supposed to keep kids out of trouble, keep them safe, keep them healthy. And the fact that like these predators
Starting point is 00:15:23 just like inundate these types of environments is why the world is so fucked up so fucked up and like there's just this undercurrent of this like criminal activity against children that happens in the world and yes we talk about it and and it's condemned but it's like I feel like our like in this time in the world in our generation like thinks they're so like morally correct about everything yet we like can't correct this and no one really has even taken the time to like address it on a large scale you know I mean I had no idea that like the cheerleading community had this issue um and maybe if I had known that I wouldn't have been like so ambushed by this story I was ambushed by it and then I and then I read more
Starting point is 00:16:00 and I was like oh okay I mean it's just not makes it okay. No, it just goes to show you that like you literally don't know anyone. And like, I mean, Jerry was like a breakout star. I mean, all the kids were. But Jerry was really like a fan favorite. A fan favorite. For his positivity. He had been through so much in his life. And now, unfortunately, it's going to be a no for me, Jerry.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah. This is really bad. Like really upsetting. Yeah. And we'll me, Jerry. Yeah. This is really bad. Like, really upsetting. Yeah. And we'll keep you posted. Yeah. I feel like the FBI has some loose ends that I need them to tie up. For me, like, whatever happened with Jake Paul. I was thinking about that, too.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Like, that was the biggest news ever. He was, like, apparently the biggest drug dealer in LA. Wait, that's what happened? No, that's what, like, the rumors were. Like, underground Twitter. It's crazy that we never even, like, at least with jerry it's not like we just got pictures of the fbi leaving his house like and being like what's going on with jake paul we never really got what they went in for no we know they found weapons that makes me feel like it's part of like a much bigger stand yeah
Starting point is 00:16:58 maybe we'll find out in like a few years in a netflix documentary yeah called cheer okay um we'll keep you posted on that story, but that was just like the most shocking. The most, like weird, like what? Yeah. The most confusing, shocking, surprising. Yeah. Okay, next story.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Some insider tea, maybe or maybe not true, but like I just like theorizing about what happened with Keeping Up with the Kardashians. Okay. Khloe Kardashian and Scott Disick wanted to continue Keeping Up for an easy payday. Members of the Kardashian family were divided over whether to end the family's iconic reality show, page six is told.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Sources say that there were two camps, with Kim, Kanye, Kendall, and Kylie on one side, and Khloe and Scott on the other. What about all the other ones, Chris? I think she goes with the flow. Yeah. Some of them needed the money more than others said an insider this this article is like a little shady like who's it from um paychecks like
Starting point is 00:17:50 saying that chloe and scott's businesses are like small peanuts compared to kylie and kim and kanye but not is it a fair assessment not untrue but um this is what i thought was interesting the source uh echoed their report from last week which said that the family would likely have continued with the show were not for the harsh financial realities of cable tv during the global financial crisis if it wasn't for the pandemic it could have kept going said an insider but times are changing and budgets are lower and people want to move on so it's like crazy to think that maybe corona ended the kardashian that is crazy to think i feel like iteration i feel like it definitely could have had something to do with it while
Starting point is 00:18:28 certain businesses like direct-to-consumer brands have thrived during um quarantine like i feel like skims is probably doing really well kylie cosmetics is probably doing really well i don't know how good like nordstrom retailers are doing and i don't know how good good americans doing i feel like talentless actually might be a brand that would have thrived for sure and their shirts sort of went viral those please wash your hands shirts. Yeah. And it's just like cute. I mean, it's way too expensive, but it's cute loungewear. So like, I don't know why Scott would need the money, but it does make sense. These two separate camps of people who would continue doing it for, and really what I consider to be an unfair payday
Starting point is 00:19:01 and those who wouldn't. Yeah. It, it, it does make sense. But I also feel like for them, it was like, this is an easy payday. They have the formula. They have like the, the way that it goes and whatever they do next, it's going to have to be bigger and better and, and a little different, you know? So it's, it's the devil, you know, versus the devil you don't. I actually have a hard time believing that Kim was on the side of not wanting to do it because even though it's probably not their most lucrative venture um it's always kind of been this like staple of their brand and they're like a marvel like how did these you know women get so successful and it's been like this very um specific formula over the years and that show was an integral part of their success and I think Kim
Starting point is 00:19:40 always like honored that and respected that and even though it like I said it might not have been like their biggest money maker I think that I don't know I have a hard time believing Kim like I understand why Kylie and Kendall wouldn't want to do it they weren't raised on it they're really not even a part of it right now they're so busy um but I don't know I don't see Kim being totally against renewing it unless like everyone was on board yeah no I I could see that too but I also think like she knows that there's much bigger money out there money so just makes you think it's just I just can't believe we're living in a world like a post keeping up world yeah I mean it's not post because we still get two more seasons but
Starting point is 00:20:16 like now that we know cuts out of the bag honestly like of all the shit 2020 has thrown at us and every time like something crazy happens people are like 2020 I honestly thought like this was the craziest I couldn't believe it it makes so much sense to me like I just now that obviously I didn't expect it to happen but once it happened I was like oh yeah duh of course yeah yes but I just never thought we would get to a place yeah I kind of always thought that it was so cool that they had gotten from season one to season 20 like literally become become the biggest most famous stars in the world and they always did this show and I was just like I love them yeah I don't know times are a change and also I do think that like this pandemic has like hit e the hardest no I also think this pandemic has like changed people
Starting point is 00:21:04 forever and I feel like whereas maybe like the article said like before coronavirus like from like hit E the hardest. No, I also think this pandemic has like changed people forever. And I feel like, whereas maybe like the article said, like before coronavirus, like from an emotional standpoint, they never would have let go of the show. But now it's like, things are just different.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah, things are just different. It's a different world. And maybe money is just important to them. Yeah, I think that it is. In Paris Hilton documentary, I really learned that money is really important to her. Like she literally like does so many things
Starting point is 00:21:24 that make her unhappy only because they give her money. And like she had a goal of making a hundred million dollars and she did it. And now her goal is a billion dollars. And she's like, I literally will not get married and have kids until I make a billion dollars. Oh my God. Is she close? She didn't like give us like details. I was like, how close are we? We're like halfway there. I was just curious. Um, and she didn't divulge that information, but Kim was in the documentary for like a second. Okay. I'm so I'm going to watch that today. That's going to be my activity today. I'm very excited. Okay, next up, speaking of money,
Starting point is 00:21:49 this one's just all about cash money. Liam McSweeney, this episode, I mean. We just keep talking about money. Liam McSweeney is being stiffed by Bravo for season two, an insider says. The newest member of Rahoney, Liam McSweeney, may only be a one-season wonder if Bravo doesn't cough up more cash,
Starting point is 00:22:08 an insider close to the show confirmed to The Post. The breakout star and fan favorite of season 12 is being offered a, quote, pathetically low pay raise to appear on the next season of the reality franchise and will have to say sayonara to the series if she isn't offered a more respectable sum, the source said. Bravo and McSweeney have not responded to their request for comment. McSweeney, along with most other first-time housewives, made about $3,000 per episode. Damn, that's so low. Which totaled in $60,000 for the season, TMZ reports. The housewife believes Bravo is attempting to similarly lowball her
Starting point is 00:22:36 with the season 13 offer, the source confirmed. Probably like $5,000 an episode. Sure. I mean, the fact that Bravo pays first-time housewives and just thereafter, that amount of money is crazy. I don't think it's a slight against Leah in any way.
Starting point is 00:22:51 At the end of the day, yes, she was a total fan favorite, shook up the cast, but she still only has one season under her belt and that's how it works. So I don't think she's getting a particularly low deal for her.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I just think this is how Bravo structures their pay. Yes. And while that may be problematic, I think it would be a huge mistake for Leah to walk away because as much as Housewives of New York needs Leah, Leah needs Housewives of New York. And I don't think she's going to walk away, but I do think she's in a position to get much more money. This is kind of reminding me of like sports and like her first season was top notch, like Tom Brady and Tom Brady deserves more money.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And you know what? Like maybe this pay is good for Cindy Barshop, but like different strokes for different houses. I've been like, and Bravo has, and Bravo has made that distinction. Denise Richards, $4 million for two seasons. And I'm not saying that Leah is any, no, not in any way comparable to Denise Richards, but they pay based on talent. And no, they don't.
Starting point is 00:23:42 That's the thing. The difference between sports and Bravo here is that unless you are already a celebrity, like Leah McSweeney before this was not a famous person. So she, I can't compare her to Denise. And Denise is a part amongst a very elite group of housewives who don't need the show financially. They don't need it famous like for their career. The difference between sports and housewives who don't need the show financially. They don't need it famous like for their career.
Starting point is 00:24:06 The difference between sports and housewives is that no matter who you are, like, or how much money you have or how good you were that season, you get a similar pay raise as your co-workers. Like it's not actually based on talent. No, but I think that different housewives negotiate different pay. Of course. But I think like the, the cap that Bravo's allowed to go for like a first time housewife to a second, it's not on well she was amazing this season and let's say there was another new New York housewife and they both wanted raises I don't think that Bravo would give Leah one more I think that they would I don't I think it has nothing I think like if you're asked back it has really nothing to do with like talent no I think that it does and I think that it should
Starting point is 00:24:44 and I don't think that there are any rules in place that would stop it and there's no like salary cap and if they because we know that they pay certain people more than they pay other people and I actually think that at Lisa Vanderpump's height of her a million she's making a million a season she's been on the exact same time as Kyle is Kyle making a million a season I think probably close then but it's never been reported that that's the case and also lisa rina like once alluded to the fact that because vanderpump was getting paid so much more than them she should be bringing more to the show that same point wasn't made about kyle
Starting point is 00:25:15 well maybe people thought that kyle was bringing to the show because kyle was the one who like literally started the lvp teardown yeah Yeah I don't know I just I think that if any housewife deserves a big jump from season one to season two it's Leah like every single person would tell you that she had the best first season of of any housewife really anywhere and from what we understand and what everyone's suggesting like this next season will be built around her and that person deserves a raise. I don't know at the end of the day like I kind of agree with you but I also don't agree with you at all. Like at the end of the day like yes she had a great first season and yeah but she's a it's now on her second season and she's still a regular
Starting point is 00:25:58 housewife and there's still OGs. Like I don't know I feel like why is Leah different than any other housewife who's ever gotten renewed for a second season?it like you know what I mean well not Dorit but like Cindy Barshop no Dorit because she was just a new housewife yeah but like Dorit didn't have a great first season so like I honestly think that she took this this menial raise and probably was like thank you for having me back I feel like Dorit didn't have a great first season but really contributed to like the ethos and and the the fights and all that stuff but like no one was like angling for her to come back I mean I'm trying to think of who is okay Erika Jayne very similar okay so that's very great first season yeah and so I and she came on the same time as Catherine Edwards and say Catherine Edwards had been asked back for
Starting point is 00:26:39 a second season you think they should have been making the same yeah they did the same amount of work I don't think so they did I think you get paid based on what you bring to the table. And if the show can like live without you, I don't think Rahoney whatsoever can live without Leah right now. Okay, a different scenario is with Erika Jayne. We never heard a story like this. No. So like she obviously took what they gave her
Starting point is 00:27:01 or like negotiated herself like as good of a deal as she could and recognize that not only like, it's really not about how much you get paid to be on Housewives like I feel like a lot of the women actually make more money outside of the show than they do from the show but they couldn't get those outside deals without the deals yeah but without being on Bravo definitely someone like Leah makes could be making more money from like endorsements outside the show when she's making 60,000 from the show but like Lisa Vanderpump I think she did like Timmy Blends once yeah but was making a million dollars a season that's real money yeah but see the difference is that like Lisa Vanderpump didn't need like Instagram sponsorships like something I disagree with that well at the time
Starting point is 00:27:40 I actually think right now like her empire restaurant business like actually might be starting to crumble oh yes because it's a difficult time to be in the restaurant business but I actually mean like before COVID like there's just something fishy about no I think we're fine like she's always been rich and I like I feel like we can't compare her to Leah because like we've seen Leah's apartment like we know that Leah is not as financially stable as Lisa Vanderpump and Leah could actually really use the money from the show and the outside endorsements where it's like Lisa Vanderpump works on the show she deserves to be paid like whatever but she doesn't need like instagram sponsorships you know what i mean yeah i just think that like sports housewives should be paid based on talent and based on like how much you bring to the show
Starting point is 00:28:21 yeah but you know what it is it's like talent in sports can be measured like in touchdowns. You know what I mean? Like there are numbers. I don't know how you measure. Cue scores. Cue scores. Okay. I don't really know how you measure
Starting point is 00:28:32 Housewives quote unquote talent because it's all technically all subjective. Whereas like sports is not. How many points did you score? So I feel like it might be like a dangerous precedent. And then you like, you were ready when you create a house. The dangerous precedent was set with Denise for me like oh I disagree dollars for two seasons for someone who
Starting point is 00:28:48 has never even been on the show and and who actually does have a legitimate career being famous and so has the most to lose and is probably gonna play it closest to the vest like for me that was when I was like oh there's no status quo oh I disagree I feel like if anything it proved that like why she got paid so much like she you have Denise Richards is a household name at this point in time and especially before her first season Liam McSweeney was not a household name like it makes so much sense why Liam McSweeney was getting three thousand dollars an episode and Denise Richards who literally is one of the most famous people in the world got four million dollars for two seasons.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Like, it just makes sense. That does make sense. But I think when it comes down to it, it's like what the show would be without this person. You know? And like, I think, I just think Leah brought, like, made the, she made this season of New York. 100%. Now she will, like, the next season of New York is going to be like so much about her she's she's
Starting point is 00:29:46 instrumental to the future of the franchise I think she deserves more money by the way I think she deserves more money too and I am almost 100% sure like this was a very strategical tactic by her team planting this article saying that we would talk about it so they show putting pressure on Bravo like it's it's all strategic and she deserves raise, 100%. But I just think, like, to come out with, like, I don't know what she's asking for, but, like, I hope she doesn't overplay her hand. Like, yes, you're very well-liked, and everyone loves you.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I agree with this. Everyone loves you. You're very well-liked. You brought a lot to the table. But at the end of the day, you're a second-season housewife on a very lowbrow franchise. Like, recognize that.
Starting point is 00:30:23 That's all I'm saying. I agree. And don't throw it all away, and don't overplay your hand. But also know your value. Know your worth. Like, recognize that. That's what all I'm saying. I agree. And don't throw it all away and don't overplay your hand. But also know your value, know your worth. Yes, 100%. She definitely deserves a raise.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Okay. So she deserves more than the, than the pathetically, quote, low raise. Well, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:30:36 what do they consider pathetically low? But let's say she went from $3,000 an episode to $5,000 an episode. Which actually sounds like a lot. It sounds like almost double.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah. Sure. But fine. I think Leah McSweeney should be making somewhere between $7,000 to $10,000 an episode. I do. And I don't think that's an unreasonable request to ask Bravo. I don't know if that's what she's asking for or if she's asking for like $20,000 an episode. You like technically, yes, know your value, but also know how corporate works. Like you don't go from $3,000 an episode to $50,000. You go from like $3,000 to $10,000 maybe. I don't know if you became the ceo and like what was dorinda making just give her her paycheck that's true i wonder if they're
Starting point is 00:31:08 gonna replace dorinda you should be able to make the amount that the person you pumped off made yes because if they're they should treat it like sports with a salary cap like okay we have five million dollars a season for roni and that would force the women to like we perform yes oh my god wait we need every franchise to have a gm we actually jacket just made me watch a draft day so like this is what i know about they love draft day so we should have literally every house it all comes back to draft day you're seeing 100 have a gm a salary cap so they have x amount of money to give and then it like instills a sort of competition right and not only that it's like you don't just show up
Starting point is 00:31:45 and get paid like you you earn what you're worth and like how did you perform last season that might affect your next season like I don't think anyone should get like a pay cut but without just being demoted or fired but I think that it might affect your raise if like hey you didn't really bring that much to this season yeah though there's only four real housewives of New York so they all brought 25 percent no it's insane how few housewives there are I do think they have to replace there's a lot of rumors that this woman Rachel something um is gonna be the Tiger Woods Tiger Woods's ex-mistress yes is gonna be on it um but then she was on Juicy Scoop yeah and I think she said that they had wanted her in the past but I don't think there's any truth to the rumors that she's gonna
Starting point is 00:32:24 be on now. So she just seems like someone who literally places herself in Page Six, like had literally one Skype call with Rahoni five years ago and like literally can't get over it. That's the vibe that I'm getting. Like she's constantly being like, why is everyone asking me this? When like she's the one who called Page Six. That's just the vibe that I'm getting.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I don't think anyone realistically thinks that she's going to be on it. And I looked at her Instagram and like she just doesn't look like she lives a luxurious life yeah that's a big problem for you yeah no it's the only thing that matters to me like to me it's like if you are super wealthy and like bring a level of class elegance planes cars to a show um that's valuable that's really really valuable to me like Sutton like Sutton I think Sutton's the perfect thank you for your plane because like the thing that's most interesting about her and this isn't to like bash her at all like her wealth is so interesting and her standard of living and like when Lisa Miranda like got on the airplane to New York was
Starting point is 00:33:12 like freaking out about being on a private plane and Sutton was like it's a flight to New York like what's the big deal like that is what we need yeah or like when Sutton like couldn't go with the ladies to Rome for some reason she was just like oh so we'll get a plane yeah no that's the level of like thinking and the level of planning that I live for in a housewife and I know I focus so much on money when it comes to housewives but to me it's so important and I feel like it's what started out as an aspirational show for wealthy women has really kind of turned in certain franchises to foreclosures, rental apartments. Like, there's nothing wrong with those things,
Starting point is 00:33:47 but it's just not what I want to see on my aspirational TV show. Yes, I agree. So I'm sorry if I talk about it so much, but I think it's so important to the quality, keeping the integrity of the brand. I really do. And what it started out as. Like, also, Real Housewives of Orange County, like, was supposed to be called behind the gates.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Like, there is an implied level of wealth. And half of them don't even live in gated communities. And like the price tags at the bottom of the show. Like that's not interesting when it's like oh Kyle went shopping at Fendi and spent $200. Yeah no but she spent $5,000. $10,000. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Oh also just a side note. Denise Richards is leaving Beverly Hills. And it turns out that money like that she's not getting paid enough to stay. And that's why she's leaving. Right. So that's the word on the street. Is that the word on the street? I feel like Denise probably did ask for an insanely unreasonable raise.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Because that's what she thinks she needs to stay around this time. Like, she had a terrible season. She's like, all right, I'll stay. Give me $10 million. And I thought she was going to leave even before I found out it was a money thing and so I'm sure she tried to say yeah maybe I would potentially do it if you literally triple my salary yeah it makes sense yeah like I guess she doesn't need this but I mean four million dollars for two seasons like nice work if you can get it yeah no honestly I keep thinking
Starting point is 00:34:59 about it in the framework of sports and it's really interesting and I and we never get like answers on housewives like did they quit did they get fired what happened with the money what did he want what did he get whereas like everything with sports is public like got a 60 million dollar contract got fired got traded and I wish they would kind of emulate that because it adds another level of being a fan it's like Ben not only watches football but he watches the draft and he's like oh they got traded you know like it adds like such a fun element and I actually think like if housewives were structured like that where every player was like an agent free agent two contracts like it would be so interesting yes because also like there is a similarity between like what housewives are for for fans of housewives to what sports are for sports fans yeah you know
Starting point is 00:35:41 like this like competitive you know we need like a fantasy league draft day situation yeah it all comes back to draft day always okay next story you know what anything can happen on draft day any that's the thing about draft day anything can happen you think something's gonna happen but it could be anything yeah a little morning show news or sure hosting news sorry drew barrymore's new show is um premiering on monday and she says the rule book is on fire so i saw some people i haven't seen much but i did see some people on twitter like tearing it up well it hasn't even premiered yet but i also did see a clip from it i saw a clip she brought out lucy lu and kevin ds absolutely love to see it in tune with what's necessary majorly majorly but in august 2019 drew Drew Barrymore shot an audition tape for a Hope for Talk show in
Starting point is 00:36:26 front of a live studio audience. 13 months and one pandemic later, the Drew Barrymore show premieres Monday with Barrymore taking center stage in her studio and interacting with a virtual audience. Oh, I thought she sits behind a desk that says Drew's News. So I thought the name of the show was going to be Drew's News. And I thought that was really cute. It's the Drew Barrymore show. It's the Drew Barrymore show. I don the name of the show was going to be Drew's News. And I thought that was really cute. It's the Drew Barrymore show. It's the Drew Barrymore show. I don't know. This is interesting. I feel like celebrity talk shows are a really funny and like fickle thing. And
Starting point is 00:36:54 it's so hard to get it right. And people who you think are going to like become stars, Christian or Bethany, like don't work out. And those that you may maybe have underestimated Kelly Clarkson shine. So I don't know. I mean, when I heard it, I'm like, this is a good idea. She has a great name, the Drew Barrymore show. Like it sounds good, but you just never know. I don't know what contributes to like a great celebrity talk show. Um, and you can't predict whose is going to rise and whose is going to fall. So I wish her the best. I just don't know. I wish her the best I just don't know I wish her the best I actually think yes there is this untangible factor that contributes to a successful celebrity talk show I don't know what
Starting point is 00:37:30 it is and I think that perhaps Drew Barrymore like could have that factor but I think this is maybe like the worst time to have be launching a talk show uh yeah cable is not at its best cable's not at its best like people aren't really watching TV and the TV that they're watching, like when it's, you know, virtual filming or at home or like a virtual studio audience. Like it's weird. There is this fucking truck outside that keeps backing up. Me, me, me, me. And like, honestly, I'm having phantom sounds and I'm going to hear it in my sleep.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And like, I just want to go outside and literally drive the truck like to Jersey sorry what were you saying there is this intangible thing yes I don't know I it's like a it's a balance of like charisma uniqueness relatability yes um I don't know and then there's just x you know yeah it's it's a medley of things. And by the way, Tyra's a success. It was on for so many seasons. But at a certain point, like, shows just end. And so it's not like, it's not Chris.
Starting point is 00:38:31 It's not Bethany. No, no, I would consider Tyra a success. Oh, right. You said Chris and Bethany, right? I said Chris and Bethany. Like, Meredith Vieira. Like, you would think that would be a hit. She was, like, on people's, in people's homes.
Starting point is 00:38:42 She was in people's homes on the Today Show or whatever, whichever one she was on. And it seemed like a very natural progression. And like to me, when that failed, I'm like, that's a shock. There is a huge difference though between reading from a teleprompter and like being in a living room setting, making people feel like you're in their home. It's also a strange balance to be a famous person but have to give the floor to famous people like most of being a talk show host is actually not talking it's listening so it's listening to celebrities and like blowing smoke up their ass whereas like you're used to
Starting point is 00:39:13 people doing that to you yeah and you're the biggest star where it's like you actually have to take a step back when you become a talk show host and give the floor to someone else yeah and I feel like a lot of people maybe even like Krisner, can't do that because they are the star of their own lives. And I feel like it actually takes a very humble person to be a good celebrity talk show host because you have to realize immediately that it's not about you. Yeah, and I feel like Drew Barrymore is a good listener.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I don't know where I would get that information. It's just a vibe I get. I agree. And I think Kelly Clarkson has proved time after time to be an excellent listener. Yeah, like whatever she's doing over there, it's just a vibe, I guess. I agree. And I think Kelly Clarkson has proved, you know, time after time to be an excellent listener. Yeah. Like whatever she's doing over there, it's just electric. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I mean, I knew it like literally four years ago when someone was like, who's your dream guest on the show? And I was like, Kelly Clarkson. It's because she is just hosting material. It also like if you would have told me two years ago that, like, in 2020, like, we're going to have a brand new Kelly Clarkson, like, new show, new life,
Starting point is 00:40:08 like, new man. She looks so good. Like, if you had told me we were literally going to get a brand new Kelly Clarkson, like, Kelly 2.0, I never would have believed you. I would have.
Starting point is 00:40:16 We get a new Kelly every four years. Think about it. It's like a precedent. Think about it. It's also, it's really like her albums. Like, each album
Starting point is 00:40:24 is so different from the last and then she puts out a new album she's like this is how I'm this is finally album that like is all me yeah nope like record label telling you what to do I'm like I thought that was piece by piece yeah it's it's this one love so soft well LA Times did a huge piece on her I don't know if you saw it just about like the new Kelly basically what we're saying and she did reveal that she's working on her latest album and it's her most personal work yet so they're all but like I truly believe like it's not like Miley where it's like this is me yeah yeah every four years she's a new person and we're getting the most personal work yet I actually think like her most personal work ever was piece by piece but that's not what she considers the
Starting point is 00:41:03 most personal work that's crazy she's still like and I feel like because of the way that she came up in the industry like she always just thinks that like she has something to prove like because she had like really bad like record label drama back in the day with like behind these hazel eyes and like even though obviously that's such a successful song and time in her career like she doesn't look back on it fondly I think and so she's always I feel like she's always looking at her past like through a negative lens honestly we need a Kelly Clarkson documentary we do I feel like she's very interesting I know and like she just posted the other day because it's the anniversary of her winning American Idol and it's like that's the craziest
Starting point is 00:41:40 thing right all of this but you know what it also tells you like as much as it's like wow American Idol did this no the cream always rises a hundred percent there have been so many stars from American Idol and some of them have literally gone on to be Kelly Clarkson Carrie Underwood like Grammy Jennifer Hudson Jennifer Hudson and some of them were just not David uh Archuleta yeah some of them were not creamy not everyone can be a Daughtry no not and not everyone can be a Catherine McPhee no oh my god success I love her okay fifth and final story that will segue into our tv recap the family of Carol Baskin's missing ex-husband airs an ad during Dancing with the Stars okay so um actually I watched Dancing with the Stars live with commercials because you didn't want to miss because I wanted to see the commercial and I never saw it so I think it might have been
Starting point is 00:42:30 like a regional commercial or like some tv providers like you don't get the same commercials if I'm watching on spectrum in New York and someone in LA is watching on like optimum like we are not getting the same commercials no you're not and like even in New York sometimes you're not getting the same commercials it is crazy also her ex-husband was a millionaire yeah like that's why she was able to she built this like huge cat sanctuary in her like backyard in Florida because she was like a wealthy widow oh got it okay I'm learning something new every day yeah so basically the family of the her ex-band, who was the one she allegedly was involved in murdering. Don Lewis.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Don Lewis. They put together an ad to play right before her dance, which basically just said, like, our dad is missing. The $100,000 to anyone who has tips on whatever. Like, we're just trying to bring our dad home. That is so crazy. It was, like, really sad. At the end of the day, it's, like, we're so caught up in, like, this documentary and the memes and Tiger King. Carole Baskin killed her husband. But you also forget that, like, this
Starting point is 00:43:33 family lost their dad and, like, their ex-husband. Like, it's really sad. And this woman potentially lost her husband. Yeah, sure. Carole Baskin lost her husband. Okay husband okay well I do think that that is so interesting and like really um a great use of ad space for this family considering what could potentially be the situation and I'm sure they're just like done with like the glorification of who they think is a really bad person totally so I love them for getting in and like maybe ruining her night a little bit did you hear from them in the documentary. And they believe that Carol Baskin killed her husband, whacked him. Yeah, and they give a play-by-play. Can't convince them it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Literally, they give a play-by-play of, like, the day that it happened, how, like, she was so shady, like, locked herself in his office. Like, there was just, like, so much going on. But talking about Dancing with the Stars, I really do want to talk about it because it was an interesting episode. Two major things happened before i talk about the contestants just like with the structure of the show the first was that len who is the judge the oldest one it's like stuck in london i think with coronavirus he's like a little too
Starting point is 00:44:33 old to travel so derrick huff filled in for him and honestly it was such a breath of fresh air like he gave such specific critiques he was like oh well i think like your pas de bourree was like you know what i mean like he didn't actually say pas de bourree but like it was just very specific critiques not like your energy was low or like your arms weren't point like there was just like real feedback and it was kind of refreshing and he was such a big fan of so many people that like before he even started he was like oh man I loved you and you know and like it's nice when he acknowledges the stardom so I thought that was actually a good thing and I think that he him and Julianne should probably at some point be transitioned to full-time judges because like this cast of losers that they have
Starting point is 00:45:11 like is so loser-y sometimes the other one is we've Carrie Ann and Abba yeah like I just I just can't and Bruno who I also just can't got it so I think that I like the idea of pros successful pros turning into judges I like that too so then the second major shake-up was Tyra Banks and I was really really excited because like Tyra Banks has never put anything out that like I didn't just absolutely love like I just love her um and I wanted to give her grace because you know going from a show that had two iconic hosts, like people love something to get fired or anything. Like it was just time for a change.
Starting point is 00:45:49 You didn't do anything wrong. They went out on top to then take on the job by yourself and have really big shoes to fill is really hard. And she was really, really nervous. And then on top, given the fact that you have no studio audience and they're playing a laugh track, that's like not timing with your jokes is tough. That's rough. and they're playing a laugh track that's like not timing with your jokes is tough.
Starting point is 00:46:04 That's rough. So I want to say that there was like a very weird energy in the ballroom last night, like an awkwardness. Tyra was like very rushed, very nervous, flubbed her words a lot on the teleprompter. We have to give her... Was it live? Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:20 We have, I mean, there's so much pre, there are all those pre-recorded packages, but the scoring, the dancing and the hosting were live. Okay. And we have to give her a little bit of grace because like I said, it's so much pre, there are all those pre-recorded packages, but the scoring, the dancing and the hosting were live. Okay. Um, and we have to give her a little bit of grace because like I said, it's a huge transition, transition, but she does have to get it together because it was really bad. Um, but like, I love her and I want it so badly to work and I don't want the fans to like regret or like, I don't want people to be like, we should have kept Aaron and Tom,
Starting point is 00:46:41 you know? Cause like she can do it. I know she can. Yeah. Yeah. And she hosted this, like we were just talking about majorly successful talk show like she can do it I know she can yeah yeah and she hosted this like we were just talking about majorly successful talk show she can do it but she was really nervous okay I mean it's a big shoes to fill I understand being nervous it's like crazy to me like I feel like Tyra is so much bigger and more prestigious than Dancing
Starting point is 00:46:58 with the Stars but like even Tyra gets nervous well she also was the America's Got Talent host recently and like really did a good job but I don't think that show is majority live so like live is hard live is hard um now i want to go through the dancers and tell you what i thought of everyone because aj mclean is so cute and i just like love him and he was very good i mean he has experience like dancing like boy band dance but he kept up and every the thing is like everyone was really good and there wasn't like a major like loser like sometimes there's just someone who like has two left feet or is like two just can't get it now the closest we got to someone who was the major sink was Chrishell Stouse from you're lying I know it was really really shocking she was on the bottom of the leaderboard stunk it up like she was just really not good like she just
Starting point is 00:47:37 doesn't have rhythm she just doesn't have rhythm and she doesn't have it okay um but see speaking of someone who might have it very shockingly was Anne Heche. She was excellent. Like she was funny and I'm like who is this woman? I had no idea who she was. But she's so familiar. Like she's from stuff. She's from stuff and then she named all the things she was from and I had never heard of any of it. But she had this great energy and she was funny. Like she was really being like a character and then she danced excellently. She reminds me of Kate Flannery from The Office last season who like was this random woman, a little bit older, and then just killed it. And I think she's going to be really, really good.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Speaking of stinkers as well, Carabascan. I couldn't actually watch a dancing because there was so much going on in my head. But what I did watch, it was atrocious. She won't get out for a while because they were teasing the whole time. Carabascan. She was like the Taylor Swift. It was crazy. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:24 How she's the most famous person there but um she was an atrocious like an actually horrendous dancer i mean what did you expect charles oakley was a such a cutie also like athletes just don't perform well most of the time um it's really hard they they are so coordinated like in their field but when it comes to dance like it just doesn't click for them so Charles Oakley wasn't an amazing um dancer but Vernon Davis was an amazing dancer and I think he might be single and I think him and his partner like are in love like I could just I was getting that vibe okay yeah um also to someone who really really shocked me Jeannie Mai from The Real she came out and she was like I'm not gonna embarrass myself I'm like I'm gonna kill it and she really did and she just was like so she's so pretty and I have I just like watching her package and then
Starting point is 00:49:09 watching her dance like I just had respect for her you know what I mean like I think like she didn't want to embarrass herself and she like put in a lot of time and effort and it was good okay and like maybe you wouldn't have looked at her before but like she really made a name for herself in the first round wow now speaking of someone I have respect for gd my let's talk to someone who i have literally no respect for jesse mccall i don't know why i came to this realization when i was watching last night i'm like i have no respect for you and i don't know if it has to do with the fact that like he's a cheater you're a cheater like you literally publicly cheated on your fiance of five years or like you threw away a perfectly good career like and i don't know what you did wrong but like you just ruined it yeah you went from Desperate Housewives to literally a movie that defined a generation
Starting point is 00:49:47 just John Tucker must die to literally being a has-been to obscurity a matter in a matter of years like it was crazy so I don't know where my lack of respect for him comes and then just like seeing him on the show I was just like I was like mad watching him I'm like no no you don't get to be here like it was just whatever he was a fine dancer and, I don't even remember watching him because he was like, he said Desperate Housewives was so big for him that it launched this amazing movie career. Like, implying that there was more than one movie when you and I both know very well that there wasn't. No, there was not. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:50:15 I'm just, I'm going to look up his IMDb because now I'm curious. Yeah, no. I'm curious how he can even say such a thing. Yeah, no, John Tucker must die. Like, I have to give it to him. It was huge. Oh, he's also like a Hallmark king. Okay, so like I said. Yeah, yeah, right what was after John Tucker must die he oh he's on Chesapeake Shores which is a big hallmark show so like okay it can
Starting point is 00:50:36 be something that's not hallmark okay okay um something that you would have heard of I'm looking I really am so like I said no respect for Jesse Mac half and the throwing away of a perfectly good career yeah no for real like there's nothing maybe these are big like action movies or something but nothing that we have I feel like he like where he went wrong is like it's so random I feel like maybe he like pissed someone off and got like blackballed like that's a vibe that I'm getting right maybe he like cheated on someone important right um okay Johnny. Okay. Johnny Weir was fine. Like honestly, when you're a figure stater, like you have an unfair advantage. And he was like funny and sassy. And like obviously everyone loves him. I want to talk about Justina Machado. You might not have heard of her.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yes. I know who she is. She is like a date. She's like a soap actress. She's like a big ABC star. But she also was in Desperate Housewives. And I couldn't put my finger on why she looked so familiar until I looked her up. She was on Desperate Housewives. Remember when Gabby's stepdad, spoiler alert, gets murdered by everyone in the wedding room? Yeah. She is the stepdad's wife and comes looking for him. She was like, Alejandro was just here. Yeah. So what are you? She's also on Queen of the South. Like she's a pretty good character and I'm all caught up on it and she's fabulous. She was amazing. Like I didn't know her and I just left like literally her biggest fan she had this energy and she brought her Latin flair and like I was just live like literally
Starting point is 00:51:54 living for her she's not my number one favorite wow um Caitlin Bristow it was honestly like emotional to watch I was watching Jason Tardik filmed her watching herself and I was emotional so she got paired with Artem who was supposed to be her partner five years ago so it's just like this big full circle moment and all this justice has been served and for those who don't know because a lot of people were like why'd you write justice on your Instagram um Caitlin after she was the bachelorette was the for actually like one of the first bachelor people to be offered Dancing with the Stars and she was like ready literally no the point is that she wasn't like sean lowe had done it chris souls had done it and all these men had done it right and then caitlin was slated to do it and she is
Starting point is 00:52:33 a professional dancer and it was like duh and mike fleiss who is the producer of the bachelor like said he didn't want you know people trying to get famous from his show and forced abc to fire her essentially that's so crazy that she literally like had the job and had a partner and by the way what's most important is that before she was on the bachelorette she was a dancer yes did they mention like mike fleiss in her package no no so what did she say happened she didn't she didn't address that she said she was supposed to be on the show oh in her package no but she did on instagram that's the most interesting part they have to protect abc like whatever mike fleiss is he does he even still work on the bachelor i believe
Starting point is 00:53:09 he does doesn't he have all those like charges against him that we reported a while back between his wife yeah um so obviously just cancel culture like skipped over mike fleiss um and carol baskin and all these other people who've committed crimes yeah right Caitlin Bristow was obviously excellent like she was she's a dancer she looked great like she was happy like she was she's gonna go far 100% yeah someone who's also gonna go far is Monica Aldama from cheer now it was a little weird given the cheer news that came out yesterday but it's like those who can't do coach you know those can't but she can do and she was excellent she was at the top of the leaderboard. Got like one of the highest scores.
Starting point is 00:53:47 She's just like a lovely woman. And like someone I just really like and respect. And she got respect. And she was at the end, which means like she was important. And she was great. Like really, really good. Is that everyone? No.
Starting point is 00:53:59 There's four more people. Sorry. Oh, shit. Three more people. Nelly is an absolute P-jom. Like I love him he was great he danced to his own song if you want to go and take a ride with me but he did like a salsa and he was like it was very confusing and weird he did a great job um and I just like loved him and
Starting point is 00:54:14 something about him he was giving me like cute boy vibes like I just like had a crush on him speaking of um cute boy but someone I definitely did not have a crush on was Nev Schulman he is literally the biggest nerd of all time um he was good his partner literally called him a nerd he was being like so nerdy like literally could not stop smiling like and he's wearing a tuxedo so he just like feel like a felt like a nerd yeah um again not someone i like love or care about um but will do well then the final person i want to talk about is sky jackson she's probably gonna win really yeah like she was just giving it all she's the youngest she has the most energy she's tiny yeah he could flip her around she was splitting in it was only the first
Starting point is 00:54:50 one and she was at the top of the leaderboard and she is um someone I might not have you know uh picked out as winner because she's so young but she is definitely a force to be reckoned with on the DWTS stage so she was number one on the leaderboard? She was up there. I don't remember who was number one towards the end, but it was her and Caitlyn was up there. And I don't know, they rushed the end because Tyra Banks was taking so long to wrap up. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:15 So it was enjoyable to watch? Like you'll continue watching the season? So now that you asked, I don't know, the two hours, it literally felt like an eternity. No, but this, just the recap felt like an eternity. I know. So I honestly don't know if I'm going make it the whole season I just wanted to see everyone like yeah that's exciting and you know what I appreciate I like last season I enjoy watching
Starting point is 00:55:32 it through your recap yeah um I also already recapped the social dilemma but uh the Paris Hilton documentary I want you to watch it so I won't spoil too much but all I have to say is I absolutely love celebrity documentaries like I first of all beyond whatever they're selling or trying to tell me I love seeing how they live how they travel like the logistics of being a celebrity what the houses are like how much staff they have and Paris was of course gave us everything we needed and more with she actually moved houses in the middle of the documentary so it's like she went from this like sickening house to like this more mature adult house and you go from closet a to closet b and just like seeing what it takes for her to pack and like all this stuff oh my god that gives
Starting point is 00:56:07 me anxiety yeah it was anxiety ridden and also how she has insomnia um and she's just like up all night like and she's traveled to seal and like she just like she's just a very interesting girl not only like from the business side but this documentary the whole point was for her to get away from these characters that she's built dumb blonde simple life walmart you know like all that stuff um and let everyone know like she's actually been in on secret for quite some time and she but she was so good at playing that character like nobody believes that she's anything but that person and it's like trapped her in this life where it's like she's actually and they had nikki on it um and actually someone who's spent time with paris and nikki myself i actually can attestest to the fact that like Paris is nothing like that character and everyone who meets her is
Starting point is 00:56:48 like she's the smartest woman in the world but like when celebrities say that you just like don't listen yeah um but she's the most normal like down-to-earth like girl you would go to college with like she's just like so fun and funny and she's very successful but she's like stuck in this like hamster wheel almost but the best part of the documentary was she got to play Tomorrowland, which like that's like when I play the Beacon Theater, like it's like the biggest deal for a DJ. And she was dating this guy and they had met at Ultra and they had like been hanging out like over the course of the documentary. And he came with her to Tomorrowland and like got wasted.
Starting point is 00:57:20 And she was like not drinking. She was doing press and getting ready for a set. And she was on her laptop mixing stuff because people think that she doesn't do her own mixing because one picture went viral of some sound engineer turning up this volume and literally was like look this guy Paris has a DJing for her so she takes herself very very seriously and like this is such a big day and it's such a big deal and this guy's getting wasted like complaining that he's not hanging out with her and like literally just like slobbering all over her like kiss me kiss me and Paris is like fuck off and she literally kicks him out of Tomorrowland rips his bracelets off and security is like pulling him
Starting point is 00:57:48 out it was the most interesting thing he was literally like ruining the most important day of her life like she's walking to stage and he's literally like globbing onto her being like he was german like hang out with me and literally she was like get the fuck off me like it was it was crazy like i couldn't believe that they not only got that on film but they kept it in the documentary it was that is fascinating fascinating okay okay I need to go home I need to go watch it's such a good documentary I really recommend it and I just love Paris so much and Kim was on there being like she literally said like I wouldn't be like who I am if it wasn't for Paris like Paris she didn't have to teach me anything I literally just watched her and learned
Starting point is 00:58:22 everything it was crazy so Okay, I gotta go. Do you have anything you want to recap? No, still nothing really major to say about Love Island. I don't know why I'm still watching. But you know, I just, it's like KMN. Like I just love mindless shit.
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