The Toast - S3 Ep149: Stanley Tucci Appreciation Episode: Thursday, September 17th, 2020

Episode Date: September 17, 2020

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone is having an amazing, bright, and really inner peaceful day. That's all I can wish for you. That's all anyone can hope for. This week, strangely, sped on by. Like, when it was Tuesday, I was like, it's only Tuesday. But now it's Thursday, and that's a great feeling. I have just, like, excitement about what lies ahead. Because, you know, tomorrow tomorrow for the first time in literally eight months, we're getting Botox. Yes. Which is just, I can't wait to not move my face on Monday. Say goodbye to this forehead, bitches. And I think I'm also going to get some lips. Ooh, I love when you do your lips.

You know, I sometimes, like you go shopping, you go for one thing and then you like leave with the whole store. I think I'm going to leave with Dr. Gizzi's whole office. Like I just want all of her new and interesting procedures. That's so interesting. Okay, now that you mentioned like we're just shopping around, I think I'm going to do some like stuff on the tummy, like the M sculpt that she has or, or Insta lipo. I just feel like, you know, I'm beyond help from a machine. Yeah. Right now that can save me as God right now today. Like I wish I had gone like a few months ago when I might've seen the difference, but I've just, I've got some work to do in the stomach

department right now. I just love plastic surgery. And it's not the kind that like someone could do for me. Like I need to like get to the gym. I just love plastic surgery. Not even, I was going to say the Peloton, but like, I can't, the Peloton, my stomach just sits there. That's my issue with spinning. Like my stomach just hangs there while my legs are working so hard. I just love plastic surgery. Like I feel like I go, I go in phases where I'm like, it's toxic or like, you know, it's bad for my self-esteem. But like right now I'm just like so excited about waking up on Saturday with like a new face. Yeah. I'm excited about that too. It's interesting that you bring up plastic surgery because I'm watching Love Island right now. And

like the people, specifically the women have like perfect bodies, like absolutely perfect. Like not can't relate, not a flab out of place can't relate on any and they all have big fake titties oh and I love a BFT yeah I love a BFT but like it's just so crazy to watch it's just like really bodies like perfect bodies with perfect titties and it's like I don't know it's also sort of like made me appreciate my own titties because like these girls are like rocks. Right. You know, and sometimes you just want to tuck them away.

No, sometimes it's like I just, people are so different. And you know, perspective is everything because like there are people who just like want big titties. And then when you have big titties naturally, I feel like you nine times out of 10, like you hate them. Like, yeah. And I cannot wait to like be done having children and done breastfeeding so I can get a reduction to literally a double A. I want to wear a trainer bra and I want to get a reduction and a lift.

Like it's just, it's funny how boobs are like universal and like everyone has their own. There's no like one beautiful boob, you know? Yeah, definitely. It's just been interesting. But I also find that it's so like, I don't think that there is a natural breast on that show. And I've been noticing it more and more when I shop online too like every single model in the photos with the clothes has fake titties and that doesn't like tell me anything about how it's gonna look on me that's so true what I mean it's so true because we need like titty diversity like it's it's tough it's tough and you know what like I feel like nine times out of ten when I'm shopping and I like a shirt like I don't get it because of how it fits on my tits yeah and because like I don't even bother like when I like because I just can't relate I cannot relate no I

agree like we need some natural titties to make a comeback yeah and I and I love the big fake titties and it's like so enjoyable to watch I'm just it just like has me in my thoughts yeah about your own titties yeah so something to think about but I agree I love plastic surgery I'm so excited to get this forehead in check. And it's also the holidays this weekend. So it's just going to be like a nice relaxing weekend filled with like family and food, which is like pretty much been my weekend, like every weekend for the last six months. But I'm excited.

Yeah, I'm really excited for Rosh Hashanah, though it does start the countdown to the YKB. We are. Is it next weekend, Yom Kippur? It's in the middle of the week. At least that means like we get a day off. OK, I am next weekend, Yom Kippur? It's in the middle of the week. At least that means, like, we got a day off. A day off. Okay. I am so dreading Yom Kippur.

Like, it's been weighing heavy on my mind. It's been weighing really heavy. It's going to be a rough one. I'm like, actually, I should eat a lot this weekend. Yeah. In anticipation. Actually, you shouldn't. Like, the science says that that stretches out your stomach, and then you'll actually

be hungrier. My stomach is stretched out already. If you could make your stomach a little smaller, you might't. Like the science says that that stretches out your stomach and then you'll actually be hungrier. My stomach is stretched out already. If you could make your stomach a little smaller, you might be less hungry. I think you'll be hungry either way. No, I think my stomach is definitely already stretched out. I don't think I have to worry about that. But we have a fabulous show for you guys today. So much to discuss.

We do have a fabulous show. As usual. But something is very unfabulous about today. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Theo. The absence. It's literally like Emma Roberts unfabulous about today oh yeah sorry Theo the absence it's literally like Emma Roberts unfabulous yeah his absence is glaring he had a busy schedule did he want to share his statement that he prepared about why he didn't show up to work he said auntie you're

getting really clingy and it's proven to be too much for me I can no longer handle it so I will only be coming into the office once a week from now on I know like based on the way that he wrote that that you were over his shoulder telling him what to write because I know that he would never say that to me do you see us yesterday two peas in a pod no totally it just me and Ben got a late start so he was still walking while I had to leave so like I just couldn't wait for him his schedule was like running backed up yeah okay um also I just think it's worth noting that today is my three-year wedding anniversary. Mazel tov! And, like, all my friends have been, like, sending me, like, pictures and videos for my wedding.

And my friend Abe sent me the funniest video of, like, me and Ben on the chair. Which, if you've never been to a Jewish wedding, it's like you put the bride and the groom on chairs and, like, you hoist them into the air. And it's actually very, very scary. Because it's just, like, all these people, like, picking you up and throwing you. And they, like, don't really care if you fall, you know? And this video was so funny. Me and Ben, I guess I didn I didn't remember like we didn't even enjoy we were screaming get us down we're falling we're falling it's like it looks like the most unhappy couple like if you had shown me that video I would have been like these people are not gonna last oh I've gotta see I have to check my time hop today

that's so exciting yes September 17th so you have big big plans well uh Ben and I did majorly fuck up in making a reservation for dinner somewhere so at this present moment we don't have a dinner reservation and i really wanted to go to restoration hardware rooftop which i haven't been to yet but i heard it's like fabulous because it's outside and it's outdoor dining and it's like all fabulous but they were all booked so like if someone's listening to this who can like help me get a reservation there um yeah someone let's plan a nice evening for Claudia and Ben. Please, like, we are fucked. But honestly, like, we went out to dinner last night.

I went to Gemma, by the way. I wanted to talk about it, which I always say is my favorite restaurant in the city. It's in the Bowery Hotel. And they have a huge outdoor dining, usually. And so I thought that would be a good place to go outdoor dine. And I was right. I just have to say, like, if you are looking for somewhere to eat, it was so fabulous. Like, perfect service. They are working on a limited menu because like just operations have been, you know.

Changed. Changed. But it was a really fabulous evening and it was a beautiful night. And if you're looking for a place, Gemma at the Bowery Hotel. I love that restaurant. Ooh. Okay. Good to know.

I'm going to dinner with my friends tonight. We're not going to Gemma, but I'll add it to my list of alfresco experiences that I would just love to experience. That you would recommend to a friend. That I would recommend to a friend. So today we got to recap so much the Beverly Hills reunion and the season ended last night. We also had the ACM awards last night which I have many many thoughts on along with just other things happening in the news. Yes so should we just get right into

it? Is there anything else you want to talk about? Um I don't think so. I mean I could wax on about Theodore Fichemin. You could. I could. You have. I would but I think it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. Okay let's get into it. Let's get right into it. Starting with the ACMs. Last night the ACMs, unclear, it's the Academy of Country Music. I was like American Country Music. Oh. Yeah the Academy of Country Music Awards were like American country music oh um yeah the Academy of Country Music Awards were on they were supposed to happen in Las Vegas in April your girls were supposed to be there we had tickets to Kelly Clarkson the day before your girl already got

a dress and it was like so sensational so did I um and then obviously things happened they pushed it back to September thinking that that's when it would happen it didn't happen in the way that they expected but they still put on a show from three different locations the Ryman the Grand Ole Opry and the Bluebird just sort of like taking us around the town of Nashville. I thought that the way that they had set it up virtually was absolutely sensational. Okay it's so strange because I actually loved the show like but and they were just filming different performances from three different places and it's like I just absolutely love country music that I strange because I actually loved the show like but and they were just filming different performances from three different places and it's like I just absolutely love country music that I don't even know if the show itself or the production was like better or worse than say the VMAs like maybe I just

like hate the VMAs no I'm sorry I I actually like you were being when we were watching the VMAs like you were definitely being negative Nancy and I feel like I was really positive about it and I thought the VMAs were good but seeing what the negative, Nancy. And I feel like I was really positive about it. And I thought the VMAs were good. But seeing what the ACMs did, I thought it was such a better setup, like way less confusing. I thought that the ACM integration of Google Maps was actually very smart and fun and cool and fresh. What I liked also was, yes, I do like country music more, but I didn't feel like anyone was lip syncing at the country music.

Yeah. The ACMs. And I felt like almost everyone was on a track at the uh VMAs and I the performances were live as they were happening and the VMAs were confusing because we know a lot of it was pre-recorded anyways that's where the comparisons like and for me I was just wondering if I was just enjoying it because I love country music and I could just sit and watch these performances all day no I feel like the ACMs like have been watching what every virtual award show was doing and just did it better um and I feel like the next award show, whatever it's going to be, is going to be even better.

But I thought the ACMs were so well done, clean and organized. And everyone showed up. That's the thing. It's like the VMAs, there's so much politics in pop music. And it's like only certain stars. It was literally the Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande show at the VMAs. And they won everything, even the awards that they didn't really deserve. Like not everyone shows up.

And the nominations are predicated on who shows up. Where I feel like the ACMs are a little bit more reputable in country music where it's like everyone gets nominated everyone shows up and it's like it's a it's a respect thing so like I was just so excited that literally everyone I love performed every time I looked up it was another performance that I loved yeah I like usually I watch the first half of a show and then all my favorite performers have gone and I go watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills but like there were so many coming up that I still wanted to see. Exactly I thought it was just I just want to give like a major kudos like I thought it was so fabulous. I thought it was so fabulous so let's talk about the winners and then we'll talk about our favorite performances. Okay

yes. And or least favorite. Yeah no we just have to talk about Taylor Swift's outfit. Thank you thank you oh yes we do okay I'm sorry I'm so glad that you can see it. What do you mean? I can see it. I have eyes. Okay. Here are the winners. Entertainer of the Year was a tie between Thomas Rhett and Carrie Underwood.

The first ever tie. This is some bullshit. Like, I'm sorry. Bull fucking shit. Doody caca poo poo. Okay. Such a disgrace. First of all, award shows, awards are meant to be won they're

not meant to be tied so like the concept of a tie really bothers me and the concept of a tie where one of the um winners is a woman where it's like they're constantly getting backlash for like not being inclusive and not not being equal especially when it comes to entertainer of the year it's like usually there's not even a woman nominated i just felt like this was a huge slap in the face to carrie underwood and to, like, women in country. And it's like, if you're going to give it to her, give it to her. And if you're not going to give it to her, don't give it to her. But, like, this fake ass tie.

And to be honest, it was a weird year. So I don't feel like anyone really stood out. But I certainly don't think Thomas Rhett stood out. No, I mean, it's so crazy how much I love country music. And, you know, I listen to it all. And Thomas Rhett is at the top of the charts. And, like, I just, like, really don't subscribe't subscribe like his music comes up on all my playlists and I know a lot of his music and it's good it's fine I just I don't think that he was entertainer of the year first

of all and he's just not my particular jam but I know he's like a lot of people's jams but I just thought like first of all if the ACMs were smart this was like a weird year where there wasn't a clear winner and they should have given it to a woman just so they can like address the issue where it's like all the female artists are constantly talking about how like country radio, country music and like the country awards just are not equal. So it's like, just give it to a woman. So, but then you're saying, say the Academy voted and I guess maybe they have an even number of academics. Yeah. And it was a tie. And you're saying just give it to her.

So, but you're kind of, like, being counterintuitive because it's like she doesn't deserve it. We should just give it to her to, like, prop her up. But see, if she won the tie, she would have deserved it. And it would have propped up women in country. So, like, yes, technically, like, she would have cheated a little bit. But I just think, like, they could have just given it to her. Yeah. I mean, I, at first I was like, oh, that's so, like, lame.

Like, a tie. But if the academics voted and there really was a tie I doubt like this is was some sort of like move on their part. Like I think it comes off lame. I don't think they make like moves like this. I think the Academy of Country Music like is the Academy of Country Music. They don't just give awards based on popularity and like who's going to show up and what it means. No they definitely don't. And so that's why I just think it was a tie. I'm not happy about it. I'm not going to lie.

Yeah, it's pretty lame. It's lame. And I just feel like not only does Carrie Underwood like unequivocally deserve it for this year, last year and the year before. I just think it also sends a great message to finally like acknowledge and not to give a woman like a half an award. Yeah. Well, she got the whole one.

They both got. You know what I mean? Yeah. Female Artist of the Year was Maren Morris. I was shocked by that, but not unhappy. Not unhappy. They were all the Artist of the Year to me. Male Artist of the Year, Luke Combs. Duo of the Year, Dan and Shay. Group of the Year, Old Dominion. Okay, Old Dominion got so much respect at the ACMs last night, and when I turned it on, it was in the middle of their performance, and I was just like thrilled to see them them I forgot like how good looking they all are and I just like love them so much and I feel like they're like my favorite band I think I would say yeah they're so

they're so great and when they were singing songs that like weren't even my favorite songs that I never like saved to Spotify but like I knew the songs and I was like I now I need to save it my favorite group is still Lady A I think that they have just been snubbed this year because they put out like such a great album but I think Old Dominion completely earned that award agreed new female artist of the year Tennille Towns love her love her did you watch her performance yes I did it was not it was I was just like so excited I was like when she was just like a woman standing on the stage with her guitar I was like she's saying somebody's daughter right this is gonna be yeah I was like this is gonna be like a performance that we just are all looking back on when this girl like blows up and um she was nervous yeah but it was still good I like that song me too new male artist of the

year Riley Green um cutie okay so I was watching with my friends Nikki and Jordan I can't believe Riley Green beat Morgan Wallen like to me I can't believe Riley Green beat Morgan Wallen. Like to me, I can't believe Morgan Wallen is still new artist. Put some respect on his name. Like I, I was shocked to see that. I was shocked not only to see him sing Whiskey Glasses again, like sing Seven Summers, but also that he's still in the new male artist category. It's weird.

Also, I feel like Riley, and by the way, this is not meant to be a slight in any way, because I actually love his music. And I think he's like the hottest man alive who looks so much like a young Brett Eldridge. I feel like he's a, he reminds me of Meghan Trainor, where it's like the industry is trying to make him famous. Like, literally, I've never sought out his music, and somehow I know it. It's like, it's always coming up on my Spotify, on Music Choice, like on the radio.

I just feel like there, like there is a machine behind Riley Grayton. Oh, interesting. I had never, aside from like Grandpa's, I Wish Grandpa's Never Die, which I really like that song. I never like heard or thought of him again. And then he was performing last night. I like picked my head up because I recognized the song. I was like, what song is this? And I was like, and who is that? Stud. Album of the Year, What You See Is What You Get by Luke Holmes. Of course. Which was the album of the year. Single of the year, God's Country by Blake Shelton. which was the album of the year single of the year god's country by blake shelton which is hard even though i actually despise that song oh i love it no god's country it's like a

little too much for me at the end of his speech when he was like i think he thanked god and i was like for making this country right thank you god and your country song of the year one man band by old dominion i thought that was an interesting choice yeah it was a great song, but I don't know if it was Song of the Year. But I also think that the ones that were nominated just didn't speak to me. Video of the Year, Remember You Young by Thomas Rhett. Which actually, I know we just took a massive dump on Thomas Rhett. That song is really beautiful. And the video, Margot made me watch it and she was watching me cry.

It was literally beautiful. Actually, I take back a lot of what I said about Thomas Fred that song is like sickeningly beautiful it is and so I'm glad that it got the respect that it deserved um those were they didn't do so many award giving out speeches last night there was really so many performances so let's talk about some of our favorites yeah I mean obviously like I showed up for Taylor Swift and she over delivered like first of all that song is so sensational and what warms the cockles of my Swifty heart is Taylor Swift and she over delivered like first of all that song is so sensational and what warms the cockles of my Swifty heart is Taylor Swift and a guitar like that's how she started like it's just that's my true and all the other accoutrements are fabulous but all I really

need in this life is Taylor Swift singing acoustic with a guitar I love Betty it is my favorite song and her being at the ACM just like the meaning it was so there for me she sounded amazing unbelievable visual the like the the lights there was no frou-frou like it was stunning it was the performance was a 10 out of 10 but you know my RDH has been acting up and I would legitimately be remiss devastated and genuinely heartbroken if I didn't address the outfit if I didn't address the equestrian pants and the sequin long-sleeve shirt. Like, oh, and if I didn't address, I'm sorry, the bayings. The bayings. By the way, someone needs to make a TikTok with her bayings

and use the TikTok song. Not the bayings. Okay, I'm going to do that later. I guess that hairstyle is her vibe for this era. Yes, we know that every era, she has a signature hairstyle. So if you look back on pictures, you'll be able to tell exactly what time period it was because of the hairstyle which is an iconic move an iconic move i hate this hairstyle hate hate hate hate and it couldn't have matched less with the sequin atlantic city top no the which did not match the malibu ranch pants

yeah it was it was so strange. No, no. And she is glamorous, like to the nth degree. I feel like no stone is left unturned with her looks. Like it's always like 10 out of 10, best of the best. Some of my favorite looks, but like I, it's like literally like someone took over her body and put that outfit on because I don't believe she would ever walk out of her house in that.

Like it was shocking. No, it was so disturbing. Um, and I saw that the whole outfit is Stella McCartney because you know they partner and stuff and if like I just don't know what happened honestly like shame on you Stella McCartney like for even creating something that ugly and like putting it in front of Taylor and like make like you know it's hard like you're a shop designer and then like you see it and it's like you just because something has a Fendi tag like it could be ugly but like you don't know because it's Fendi yeah when you love a designer so much like sometimes you can't see if it's Fendi. Yeah, when you love a designer so much,

like, sometimes you can't see if it's ugly or not. Right, you can't see out of the designer haze. Yeah. And I feel as though that's what happened to Taylor. I hope so. No, it was, she, there's, like, it's so crazy because, like, thinking about her coming back to the ACMs for the first time in seven years, like, performing this country song,

like, there's so many cute things, like, she could have done and worn, like, just subtle, and that was just. And you and you know it's sometimes like a celebrity or an artist wear something that I don't understand fully at the time yes but it grows on me over time I don't think that this will I know for a fact that this won't um but other outfits I thought that Kelsey Ballerini looked so amazingly sickeningly stunning in her performance dress and she did an Instagram story like had so much fun at the ACMs and I literally responded I'm like you looked sickening she goes her performance dress. And she did an Instagram story, like, had so much fun at the ACMs. And I literally responded. I'm like, you looked sickening.

She goes, oh, my God, I did? Is that bad? Oh, my God, stop. I'm like, sweetie, no, it's good. No, she literally, it was funny because I was, like, thinking about the outfits. I feel like for men in country music, like, it's, you know, very similar. Standard hat, boots. And I was like, for a female country artist in 2020, like, the look is changing.

Yes. But you know, there's still those big things that a country artist like loves to wear. And I thought that Kelsey Ballerini was like the perfect pop country star last night. And I thought also Maren Morris, while she went in a totally different direction, like more of like a retro look, I thought she looked fantastic. Okay. And I feel like Carrie Underwood, when she did that medley. That little dress. Awful. Aw little dress awful awful I knew you were gonna like it and I literally hated it so much like oh my god first of all little ankles poking out there is a special place in hell for dresses

that length like oh my god either go it needs to either go above your knee no between your knee and your ankle or just to the floor like this little te teacup, I hate, hate, hate teacup dresses. I loved her dress. The silhouette, it's just like so June Carter Cash, like so stunning. Gross. I hated it. Hated it.

Oh my God, I loved it. I hate those dresses. Like maybe, maybe like the most sickening, like no, I can't even think of an instance where I would think that that's an appropriate dress. Like I hate teacup dresses. That is crazy but it's so you yeah um okay I want to talk about my favorite performances aside from Taylor Swift who was just like a marvel but I loved Luke Holmes obviously always Morgan Wallen like I absolutely love him like I have a crush on

him I think he's so cute so much presence and like the mullet is just iconic. Iconic and the denim like duds. But I thought the best performance was someone who I've never even noticed like in my career as a fan of country music. I was so like, I didn't even know the song, but he was just so good. Eric Church. By the way, like welcome to the club. Like everyone knows Eric Church. No, everyone knows Eric Church, but like he just made such an impact on me. Like, and you know what I think it was?

I think because he wears the sunglasses and there was no audience so I think a lot of the performers like didn't really know where to look and where they were all amazing but there's a little awkwardness when you're performing to an empty room but because he was wearing sunglasses he didn't have to look anywhere and he just like was really into it and the woman singing with him and I just thought it was like incredible yeah you know Eric Church but I mean I was on Twitter like wanting to see people's reactions to the entertainer of the year and like a lot of people were up in arms that Eric Church like constantly gets like slighted because he's not really into the fame aspect of music he's just into the music and apparently like he puts on three-hour concerts like multiple nights in a row like and loves his fans so much and he's just like

this icon he reminds me a lot like and him and like his following remind me of like Bruce Springsteen like how people like die for him and like Garth Brooks also where it's like the concerts are like these religious experiences yeah like Grateful Dead and I feel like we should right exactly and I feel like we should get into Eric Church because I mean I used to listen to Eric Church like when I first started like um listening to country like Springsteen oh he actually has a song called Springsteen maybe that's why they remind me of each other but um I agree I thought his performance was great and a lot of people were really upset that he didn't win Entertainer of the Year because he's been nominated three times and has never won.

I was just like so impressed. And I've seen him around on the circuit before. Of course. I think we even saw him perform on Stagecoach. I just thought his performance was so good. And also Miranda Lambert was so cute. And I loved her outfit too. And all the big women in country were all wearing country pop outfits. But they were all so different from one another. And like they all, all the like big women in country, like we're all wearing like country pop outfits,

but they were all so different from one another. And I just thought it was interesting. I have said this before. I've completely done a 180 on Miranda Lambert. Like I love her and I love her new music and I loved her outfit. And I love that she was at the Bluebird. Like I-

Singing Bluebirds. Right, right. No, it wasn't, the meaning was not lost on me whatsoever. And I can't apologize enough for ever having said like anything bad about Miranda Lambert because I love her yeah no it was a really interesting night and it and it felt as close to normal as we've gotten in a while that's exactly what it was oh and I loved Kane Brown's performance and I loved how he used the empty audience to have like background singers and I hadn't heard that song before and it was so beautiful but I loved like how he used the space oh my god you haven't heard that song it's

all over the place snitch showed it to me yeah and also like I just listened to my my saved songs over and over if it weren't for you and Margo like I would literally never have evolved past like red Taylor Swift like I don't listen to new music but now I've been recently listening to my daily mixes on Spotify which I owe like they're such a great thing that they do. They make you a personalized mix every day. And they put my favorites in there, and then other things they think I'll like, and that's really how I find new music. But it's sometimes old music.

Do you happen to have a story about Amazon Music today? No. Okay, so did you know Amazon Music launched Podcast? No. So I downloaded the app to see if the toast was on there, and it is. So you can now listen to podcasts on Amazon Music, which is just an interesting fact. And the toast is on there. You guys, the streaming wars are catching up with the podcast industry, and I just think it's going to be like the toast was on there and it is so you can now listen to podcasts on amazon music which is just an interesting fact and the toast is on there guys the streaming wars are catching up with the podcast industry and i just think it's going to be like the craziness no i know and i'm

just like so glad to be a part of it you know what i'm saying i agree okay so that's more places for you to consume the toast we'd like to see it we absolutely love to see it so those were the acms any anything else no i don't think so i I just like really, really, really enjoyed it, which is so rare. Yeah, me too. It's Selena Gomez. Rare. Rare. Okay, next up, really big story today. Emily Ratajkowski accuses photographer Jonathan Letter in an essay about abuse of power. So Emily Ratajkowski wrote an essay on Tuesday for New York Magazine's The Cut about abuse of power, and in it she details a 2012 nude photo shoot at photographer Jonathan Letter's home that she says turned physical. So I read the essay that she wrote, and it was so moving, and the story is so crazy.

So it's called Buying Myself Back, and in the beginning she talks about image rights for celebrities, how they you know, they get sued by. It's crazy. By companies when they post paparazzi photos of themselves and like they don't even own their own image. And then she was also talking about how an artist, Richard Prince, I think, like he makes art where he comments on celebrities' Instagrams

like something like kind of crazy and then like pretty much like paints it or screenshots it and then like sells it. That's crazy. Yeah. And she was a subject of two of the pieces. And like everyone was telling her like, this is such a big deal.

And so she wound up buying one with her boyfriend at the time who, when they broke up, like he tried to keep one of the pieces that she was gifted. And like, again, she's just always like fighting to own her own herself. Exactly. Then she told a story about how,

when, before she was in blurred lines or gone Gone Girl and she was an up-and-coming model her agent sent her on a shoot to the Catskills with this photographer Jonathan Letter and it was like a very like an uncomfortable shooting experience for her like there was a lot of alcohol involved and he like really he was just like a freak. Inappropriate. A freak honestly. And there was like a like a sexual incident between the two of them and the pictures were just like kind of provocative and he wanted like she was nude in some of them and it was for a magazine and the pictures wound up in the magazine and that was that.

And then once she became this huge household name he took all of the Polaroids from that shoot and started selling books like Emily Ratajkowski. And she like was trying to get him to stop because those are her images that she didn't, her agent never signed that they could be used however you want. Like they could be used for that magazine at that time. And so she tried to like go, you know, stop him from doing it.

And then it became like this whole story. The pictures Emily Ratajkowski doesn't want you to see. Oh God. He printed the book, like three separate editions of the book. And the, like, it's just this like misuse of her image that she doesn't own. And she's just like trying, like speaking out finally on what happened between the two of them. Like one, I think people, I'd never heard this story about like these images of her being used. Me neither.

In this way. So I think she was I've never heard this story about like these images of her being used. Me neither. In this way. So I think she was telling her story on that. Like why it's so wrong, why he even used those images. And also what happened between the two of them while they were shooting. And he really abused his power. She's like a young up and coming model. Just trying to like do what she thought she had to do. And, you know, try to be like she said, you know, you never know who they're shooting with after.

Like, you want them to like you and say that you're easy to work with. So it was really a disturbing story. And now people are talking about this. This guy. And then I also saw that this woman posted on Instagram who was married to him briefly in, like, the early 2000s, like, praising Emilys like praising Emily Ratajkowski just kind of I guess like corroborating her story um saying like that there was like some really tumultuous things that happened in the marriage like beyond like he was having an affair and just like this abusive vibe and it was actually a

really powerful Instagram post I really liked it yeah so she says that she remembers uh Jonathan Letter's fingers being inside of her, explaining that the action hurt and that she pulled his fingers out with force. She said she didn't say anything afterwards, but that letter stood up abruptly and left to go upstairs. In a statement to USA Today on Wednesday, Heather Tynan, editorial director of his Imperial Publishing Company, said he completely denies her outrageous, libelous allegations of being, quote, assaulted.

You know, fuck off. Like, just don't say anything. You're an animal. Don't now accuse her of lying. he completely denies her outrageous libelous allegations of being quote assaulted you know fuck off like just don't say anything you're an animal don't now accuse her of lying like that's that's so morally corrupt so morally correct like this stuff with like and it really is a problem like with the rights image image rights like i know the celebrities posting instagrams of themselves like i'm sure that's really, like, fucking annoying. But, like, the fact that he can use these photos of her that she didn't, never, like, signed off of and being used in this way and, like, profiting off of her image is so sick. So corrupt.

And there has to be a way around, like, you know. Yeah. No, I mean, I think the paparazzi thing is so crazy. Like, Gigi Hadid recently had to pay a paparazzi $150,000 because she posted a picture of herself that he literally took like as he was getting in her personal space like to me that just makes no fucking sense yeah I mean this is the same thing it's like the like the fact that you're in the picture like means nothing yeah it might it could be anyone because you have absolutely no rights yeah so that's crazy well people are really responding I feel like very positively to this Emily Ratajkowski story. Um, and I think it's great. I think it was a great platform for,

she's a good writer, like a good platform for her to tell her story. Yeah, I agree. So I hope that, I don't know if she's going to continue to pursue like him ceasing and desisting production of these books, but I hope that if she does that she gets the outcome that is fair. I also really hope that like the fashion industry, um, and like the fashion industry and like the modeling industry like follows suit and like stops working with this photographer because there have been like crazy allegations to a lot of very high profile fashion photographers whose careers go seemingly unfazed.

You know, it's like they're still at Vogue. They're still doing this big shoot, Met Gala. It's like, what? Yeah. What? And it's like really disappointing um so I feel like this is such a big story I really hope that there are some like ramifications because he shouldn't be in the same room as young models yes like ever again ever again um next story also this is just

like crazy Kanye West posts a video of himself peeing on one of his Grammys. Yeah, I saw. So Kanye's taken to Twitter again, and he gave one of his Grammys a golden shower. In the midst of what Page Six calls a Twitter meltdown, but, you know, that's a subjective term on Wednesday, the rapper tossed one of his 21 trophies into the toilet and peed all over it. Trust me, I won't stop, he captioned the video, which he shared on Twitter, after publishing screenshots of his contract

with Def Jam Music Group, which is a subsidiary of Universal. So he is trying to help artists get their masters back. He's specifically trying to own his own masters, which like the irony here of like this whole thing, like as a Taylor Swift, Kanye West, I mean Taylor Swift Kim Kardashian like equalizer the irony is not lost on me here yeah but he said the artist deserves to own our own

masters artists are starving without tours I'm gonna go get our masters for all artists pray for me okay I just like it's really hard for me not to like make this about Taylor Swift and I need to team up they need to team up but I do find it interesting. And I'm going to continue to like look out for like how the media and the public responds to Kanye going this route, you know, like Twitter rampages and peeing on his Grammys.

Whereas I feel like Taylor Swift like was made to seem like she was insane when she was like literally just like being so civilized. Yeah, I'll just I'll be interested. I mean, I don't think that this is going to get

any more respect than. No, but I feel like it highlights not only't think that this is going to get any more respect than. No. But I feel like it highlights not only the fact that this is a major issue for artists, but like how Taylor Swift, in my opinion, like went about it in a very mature, civil way when like people were giving her shit for being annoying. Yeah. I don't know if it was like super mature and civil because she had the opportunity to buy them back and then she didn't. And it just became like, you know.

But OK, so like technically. Like technically, according to Taylor, like she never had an opportunity to buy them back and then she didn't and it just became like, you know. But, okay, so like, technically, technically according to Taylor, like she never had an opportunity to buy them back. In a fair way. So she had an opportunity which just wasn't fair? She had to do,

it was like labor. She had to give them an album to buy one back so literally she would have had to produce seven more albums in order to get her albums back. She couldn't have ever, wasn't there like a,

whatever Scooter Braun paid? That offer was never made to her. Okay. Got it. The only offer Scott said, stay with me for one more album then I'll give you one album then do another one. So seven for seven. wasn't there like a whatever Scooter Braun paid that offer was never made to her okay the only offer Scott said stay with me for one more album then I'll give you one album then another one so seven for seven got it I don't know if um this is gonna work but I do think that I don't think it's gonna work that he makes a good point that and he said this before that pretty much like the way that artists unless you're like you you know seeing ahead of things and planning and hiring

your own people like the way that artists are set up it's like you make yes you're making a lot of money from your albums and your tours but they also have you paying like your managers and your agents and all these other fees and like remember when he said like like when when kanye was like broke and he restructured his whole business um but i guess without tours like artists they don't own their music and like they're struggling you know like it's an interesting thing struggling relatively um but like the music industry is structured in a specific way to not only keep the artist at like an arm's length from like the real money that they're making but also that they can never own anything they do and that's what a lot of artists most notably Taylor Swift have been talking about

for so long and this is like kind of similar well actually not at all but it's just like a common thread and there are a lot of artists who like speak up about it like leave their like Chance the Rapper doesn't have a label um like it's not so common but I feel like now with the absence of touring it might be a little bit more obvious like how much artists are being duped from the amount of money that they're generating. Yeah, but then they also, they do sign these contracts when they're coming up because they wouldn't be

generating that amount of money if this particular record label didn't take a chance on them and put all this marketing dollars into them. So it's definitely like an interesting business issue for these artists.

I don't know. It's like hard to feel bad for pop stars because like, oh oh sorry you're living in a four million dollar mansion when you could be living in an eight million dollar mansion like it's really hard to feel bad for them but you know at the end of the day it's like business ethics like what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong yeah and I think that everyone could be still making money but there should be a restructuring because I maybe this was like how

it started the business but like right like things have changed today with like streaming services and it's not like you're buying albums and maybe it's just time for some restructuring. Agreed. So maybe that's what Kanye's trying to say. For sure. Next up, some more music news, sort of. Kacey Musgraves reaches a divorce settlement with her ex, Rustin Kelly.

Looks like she'll have some new Heartbreak songs on her next album. Kacey Musgraves and Rustin Kelly finally reached a settlement in their divorce, TMZ reported on Wednesday. As part of the settlement, Musgraves and Kelly put their home on the market. When it sells, Kacey will get 84.4% of the proceeds and Rustin will get the rest.

I'm sure she paid 84% when they bought it. And then- By the way, like that's just crazy. I'm so curious as logistics into she paid 84% when they bought it. And then... By the way, like that's just crazy. Like I'm so curious as logistics into the financial logistics behind like celebrity couples. Like because each celebrity themselves,

no matter how big or small, it's like their own industry. So it's like celebrity marriages are always complicated. And like it just makes me like interested to know that she paid 84% of the house. And they agreed to enforce their prenuptial agreement.

So all they need to do is have a judge sign off on the divorce. So this seems like as amicable and clean as it gets, you know? Wow, that's like fast and easy. Yeah. Wow, prenup. And it doesn't sound like either one of them is like contesting it or asking for stuff. Asking for like alimony. So that book will be closed soon.

That's fast. You know, clean divorces are the best. You know, just wash your hands and get out. Wash your hands and get out. I really miss Casey. Like last night's ACMs just, they definitely had a Casey sized hole. There was like a glaring hole from her absence.

Yeah, and like with all of the like country pop queens, like everyone with their vibe, like we were missing the Casey vibe. Oh, a performance we didn't talk about was Pink and Keith Urban. Oh, that's when I i turned it off that's because i didn't know that song but i love the combo and i love how pink respects the fuck out of country music that wasn't live was it no it was like on a green screen they weren't even together yeah like i think they filmed it like in their houses yeah that that's that's that's actually why i turned it off so

now i don't feel bad for being right about the vmas i don't like that shit yeah pre-recorded is annoying like just put it on youtube it felt like I was watching a video game yeah no it felt like you're watching like a YouTube video music video yeah a bad one yeah um fifth and final story one of our favorite people here at the toast is releasing a food memoir Stanley Tucci it will be titled taste what my life through food oh my, well, Stanley Tucci is iconic for so many things, but I didn't know his cooking was one of those things. Stanley Tucci has a full plate ahead of him. The award-winning actor, 59, who once sat next to Jackie on a plane.

No, he didn't. Oh my God. It was not Stanley Tucci. It was working. You're just jealous. Stanley Tucci. Okay, first of all, we were in LA for the Oscars. He was there. We were flying back to New York you don't go to the Oscars and then fly back coach exit row next to Jackie I mean on the way

back Stanley it was by the way like it was definitely extra leg room and he's just a regular guy you know he doesn't want like to be he said like I just don't want to be like Jackie was texting us oh my god I'm next to Stanley Tucci oh my god oh my god we landed we got the text we got up to exit she was like that's him and we were like are you fucking serious it was not stanley tucci okay maybe you're right but you know who i think it actually really might have been who that guy from the kingsman who sings take me home country road when the thing explodes by the way one thousand percent that was him yeah what's his name by the way that guy was such a hero oh my god his name what was it in kingsman kingsman cast i feel like he's from something else too he's from a lot of things okay his name is oh he was merlin mark strong and what else is he in i'm about to tell

you by the way that's such a good call like that's who it was he's family fucci he is family he gets all the roles at stanley chuchi like his schedule complex okay he's in like a lot of things that we didn't see oh he's in zero dark 30 but i don't remember him from that um he's definitely like from something specific kingsman but like there are so many movies here like sher Holmes Shazam the Green Lantern Brothers uh Brothers Grimsby Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy well 1917 Imitation Game but like we didn't see any of those yeah well whatever by the way that is who you were sitting next to but back to Stanley Tucci he's writing a cookbook titled Taste My Life Through Food it's described as an intimate and charming reflection of Tucci's life and relationship to food it will feature anecdotes and memories from his childhood in westchester new york

as well as my god stanley chuchi's not from like london as well as his culinary experiences preparing for roles in foodie films like big night and julie and julia i don't know this feels like a slight to actual chefs like he played one on tv and now he can write a cookbook chuchi can garnish the hell out of things. I have two like interesting facts about Stanley not interesting facts two of my favorite things about Stanley Tucci. Okay. One he is related I mean he is married to Emily Blunt's sister. Wow that's beautiful especially considering do they meet on the set of Devil Wears Prada? Oh I don't know. They did? Yes. Oh my God. That's so cute. So him and John Krasinski are like related,

which I just think is like an interesting thing. That's a fun double date. Yeah. A very respectable double date. And then my other favorite thing about Stanley Choochie was he was irrecognizable. And some people might not remember that he was the- Lovely Bones.

I was literally going to say that. Yes. He was the villain in Lovely Bones, which is an amazing movie. And other people might not remember that is also Saoirse Ronan's first big break. Yesoirse Ronan by the way speaking of her we watched Lady Bird oh we did well over our trip I couldn't believe that I was watching like the movie that had so much Oscar buzz I guess I just assume when a movie has Oscar buzz it's like boring and historical

but this was just like a like a coming of age story it could have been it was literally like to all the boys I loved before like you know what I realized I absolutely loathe a coming of age story oh I disagree I love a coming no like because if that's what a coming of age story is like where nothing happens we just watch someone like grow up come of age six months not interested yeah I just Ladybird really shocked me i don't know why i just thought it would be something more serious and like more like good moving i thought it would be moved yeah no it was literally i thought it would say something it was the kissing booth like it was so bad it was so bad um okay listen to what stanley tucci has been in because

it's like respect yeah devil wears prada of Of course. Hunger Games. Remember, he's Cesar Millan. Of course. Cesar Millan. Cesar Millan is the celebrity dog trainer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But his name. He was the guy on the Capitol. I know, but his name is Cesar in that movie.

Okay, well, his last name is not Millan. That is so funny. Big Night, Julian Julia, Captain America, Easy A. Oh, yeah, he plays Emma Stone's dad Burlesque Oh my god, we also watched that over our vacation P-R-E-S-S That's what you think of

When you hear burlesque I mean I think of a million things I think of Yeah Give it up, give it up Give it up, give it up This is not a test give it up give it up girl now get your ass up show me how to do this that is literally the best movie it's so good we watch it like all the time yeah we watched it over vacation i mean share comes dangerously close

to ruining it ruining it no no but christina aguilera and and Stanley Tucci and... Julianne Hough and Kristen Bell. And... Volchek. Volchek. Keep it on track. Totally. Yeah. The chair.

You tried us. If you had had one more solo song, like, the movie actually would have been turned off by me. But that one, we gave you one with the chair. And I love how she's, by the way... Oh, she's begrudgingly like... My favorite scene in the movie is how, like, she's had a long night and the club is really weighing on her they're having all these financial problems and Stanley Choo Choo's like sweetie you gotta run

this number not even Stanley it's Terrence J also another great addition in the cast so Terrence J is like Cher we need you to run through this number and she's like but I'm tired and then she's like okay and she sings this awful song on this chair and she's like so into it it's just like it comes really close to ruining the movie you said it perfectly yeah he's also in spotlight such a good movie have you seen it of course i've seen spotlight an amazing movie beauty and the beast oh my god of course but his voice his voice yes his voice but he comes to life at the end spoiler Spoiler alert. Made in Manhattan. Oh my God.

Who is he in Made in Manhattan? I don't know. There's just so many good movies. He's such an iconic actor. He's in Kit Kittredge and American Girl. What? Wow. There's an American Girl movie?

Yeah, I saw it. Was it good? It's okay. Because it's kind of like historical fiction. Because they're like. They're like all have been through war. Yes. And I think Kit is like a depression era oh um kid and so it's it's a lot that's like a funny thing about

I loved American Girl dolls we had and it was like so such an exciting thing and like you really identified with your American Girl doll but I always forget that they had like a like a historical background like some of them were like literally like World War II veterans like it was crazy it was crazy yeah it's crazy kit was mine that's why i saw the movie i was molly and it was abigail breslin was like kit yeah abigail breslin as a child literally is such an icon like little miss sunshine will literally never not be an incredible movie no abigail breslin as a child has like the best roster of films like some of the best

things i've ever seen agreed um oh my god that's so funny um so yeah stanley tucci writing a food book are you gonna get it i think you are i don't think so i've never bought a celebrity like food book because i never knew how to cook until yesterday um and so i think that if i did buy one i don't i don't even know whose I would buy first, but it wouldn't be Stanley's honestly. Cause I think his, his probably, his recipes are probably like really fancy and you know, I just want some like good cooking. It's probably like Chrissy Teigen cravings.

Yeah, probably. Um, that's funny. Like you don't buy celebrity cookbooks. I exclusively only buy like celebrity books. I'm also going to start an Ira Rivera's book. Did I tell you that? I've heard it's great. And there's some good glee gossip in there oh wow I think that's my next journey oh

that's good that'll be good okay let's dive into TV recap because Beverly Hills was on last night and it was variating I'm not gonna lie like it was sad it was so sad to see Denise go out that way with a tear in her eye and to be honest like I know that even before this season aired like this Brandi Denise drama was like so hyped up and it was supposed to be like this salacious thing but it never gave me that and every time they talked about it I just like rolled my eyes I would have talked about literally anything else and the whole episode because if they saved the best for the third the whole episode last night was about Brandi Denise and it was like we're so beyond the point of but also so was the last

episode so it was weird they kept like coming the point of but also so was the last episode so it was weird they kept like coming back to it and then when we finally felt like we put it to bed they we talked about something else and then andy was like rinna and denise why aren't you friends anymore and it's like yeah it was like choppy um honestly i just like love garcelle and like i love how she protects denise and like i feel like she's such a good friend and i hope her and denise stay friends like even though denise is not coming back i was so glad she called out rin Rinna when Rinna was like you should have come to me as a friend and it's like what part of anything that you did this season would make Denise think you were her friend no literally Garcelle was the Rinna police and I was living for it like if Denise had come to Rinna

and said Rinna listen I did this I can't be talking about it like I have to protect my family please like help me yeah at the reunion Rinna would have said but you told me that it was true a hundred percent Rinna has proved to be literally the least loyal friend and the fact that she like expects everyone to come to her and like finds fault in them for not confiding in her it's like you're literally the last person on planet earth any of these women should ever confide in right and like Rinna okay let's play devil's advocate and say like Rinna's let's play devil's advocate and say like Rinna's really just a truth warrior and wants to get to the truth but also is a really 20 years good friend to Denise and wants to be a good friend why'd you print the text messages like

that's above and beyond also did Rinna's smoking gun in this situation is that the text messages don't equal what Denise described their friendship as an acquaintance and I'm sorry but that's just not hard evidence no by the way like that that doesn't that doesn't show me without a shadow of a doubt that everything that Brandy said is true no see like what I find so frustrating about this is like I do believe Brandy like to be honest like I do and I still take Denise's side because at the end of the day it's nobody's business like uh the women are, the women are like truth warriors. Like they're so, you know, hell bent on finding out the truth when it's like, I don't even care about the truth.

I think you're a piece of shit for trying to find out the truth. Like it's not your business. Yeah. And Rinna said a few times, like whenever it would be like thrown back at her, like, why are you doing this? She was like, it's not about me. And it's like, then why are you in the middle of middle of it and like how did it become like Rinna versus Denise when it was like Teddy and Kyle's tea to begin with you know like Rinna just inserted herself

and like was so excited and so happy to take down Denise and like show that she's a hypocrite and I think Rinna's theory that Denise like wanted to change her image from the prior season while it I understand that it sounds nice like I don't believe it at all and you know what makes me realize that is Denise's tagline this season was like I may not like have a fairy tale but I always get a happy ending and it's like if she's leaning into it she's trying to move away from that like she wouldn't be saying it in the beginning of every episode you know I just don't know what Lisa Rinna's motives were and it's like she just wants to be a bad friend to everyone and I just I've turned on her so completely like completely and I'm I was so like I wasn't even like angry I was like upset

watching last night's episode because not only is Denise like a respectable woman who got like fucking bamboozled by this group I feel like I'm alone in that thinking I feel like everyone's like everyone is just obsessed with like the inconsistency in Denise's lies because Denise's lies are all over the place and she's obviously lying but it's not about the truth it's not your fucking business it's about the way that you treat your friends and like it's not like there's this rumor going around that Denise like murdered someone right did you also um do you remember in the episode when they were talking about that scene at Kyle's barbecue where Denise and Aaron left and Aaron like squeezed her hand and was like don't tell me to shut up I'm gonna rip your hand off or whatever I'm gonna crush your hand and everyone was like all worried that it was like

a toxic behavior like honestly I didn't think there was maybe I just read it differently like I don't think there was anything wrong with that like I think he was saying like I'm so mad I'm gonna crush your hand like not like I'm gonna hurt you yeah yeah I thought everyone was being like a little dramatic I thought that that statement was a little it was a little weird for sure scary but i didn't find it scary like even when i hadn't noticed it on the show but when they highlighted it i didn't really it didn't alarm me until all the women were like i was worried yeah it's like everyone takes everything that denise is saying now like so literally when she was like aaron's watched that and he was like, I'm scared of you. And then Andy was like, why is he scared of you?

Yeah. Totally. Like if I were Denise, I would obviously not return, but I really can't speak in hyperbole. Like you can't. Right. Only,

but only for Denise because everyone else is just like crazy all over the place. And by the way, if they stay open and honest one more time, one more time, it's infuriating.

So I'm like a hundred percent turned on Kyle. I'm like a hundred percent turned on Kyle I'm like I'm sorry on Ted I'm 100% turned on Rinna and I'm like 75% turned on Kyle like I'm almost done with her yeah because it really did feel like she was like pulling all the puppet strings and then showed up to the reunion been like if you were just honest and like honestly not only do I find that be honest thing to be like so dumb I also find it to be boring television. Like that's, we're not true. This isn't the real truth tellers of Beverly Hills, okay?

Yeah, yeah. And I understand like Rinna is now every time she does something sort of out of line, she's like, we're on a TV show. But the way that Candace and Giselle handled telling Ashley like that news about her husband is like the exact appropriate way that they could have done that for Rinna especially considering like Candace and Ashley aren't even friends and Rinna and Denise are friends for 20 years and then also Rinna brought up Heather Locklear oh okay so that's when Denise started to cry and they said google it which I did not I did what does it say okay so um Heather Locklear was married to Richie Sambora for like 11 years

and while Denise was married to Charlie Sheen Heather Locklear and Charlie Sheen did a tv show together so like the couples became friends Heather Locklear and Richie Sambora divorced and Denise started dating Richie and I guess she like. While she was married to Charlie? No, I think her and Charlie were over. But I guess like the, what Rinna was trying to say is like, and I think Heather Locklear has said this, that like Denise stole her husband, which Denise has said is not what happened. What happened, she said, was that I think Denise's mom had cancer at the time.

And so did one of Richie's parents. And they like bonded over that. And then a relationship bloomed from there. So I think Rinna was like just throwing out like this obviously painful thing where Denise lost a friend um and just trying to make it seem like Denise is a friend loser no just trying to make it seem like Denise is a bad friend like a bad friend like a homewrecker and this and that and everything started to cry right and then I guess Brandy told like Daily Mail TV yesterday that Heather Locklear had like reached out to her

over DM saying like, thank you for bringing the truth to light. Because like now Heather Locklear feels like vindicated because she's been trying to say that Denise stole her man. I'm just like not here for the Denise takedown. I don't know why, but I'm not. No, I'm not. Especially when it's like apples and oranges. Like, okay, so whatever happened in the 90s.

10 years ago, yeah. In the early 2000s. Like I'm watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills right now and I thought that was a low blow by Rinna. 100%. And she obviously knew that's a sore subject for Denise and Denise was fucking shook. I feel like Denise's experience on the show

is gonna really deter real C-list celebrities from potentially joining. You know what? In general, that's fine by me because I'm never enthused about, I wasn't enthused about Eileen Davidson. I was not enthused about Lisa Rinna and I wasn't enthused about Denise and now I've come to I don't know if I would loop in Eileen Davidson in that no but like her and Rinna came on together

and they were both like d-list soap stars they were literally on the same playing field when they came on yeah um and so that's fine I don't I don't mind if some actresses don't want to come on the show yeah I agree I like especially they think that like they're on they're playing by different rules right I like finding like those jewels like those Sutton's tracks like there's just like quiet rich women yeah Garcelle yeah even though Garcelle's an actress oh true oh wow interesting um but all in all it was like a decent season I could have used a lot less Brandy and Denise drama because it didn't end up giving me what I thought it was going to give me like salacious juicy gossip like it ended up just being really really sad and now that Denise is not coming back

like it just feels like Rinna and co have won well yeah that is just frustrating to me because then they'll continue to do this sort of thing where it's like no one wants like no one wanted to see that last night I don't think they need to replace Denise I think they need to make Sutton like a full-time housewife and I think the group is actually pretty solid yeah I agree we have New York on tonight um which is part two of the reunion we didn't recap part one of the reunion but we'll do it all tomorrow but I actually really enjoyed the in-person reunion it was just like a breath of fresh air even though like it was a lame season I was like still getting life from the reunion because we haven't had an in-person reunion in so long yeah and I was really glad Tinsley was there to finally shed some light on

why she thinks Dorinda hates her because that was literally the craziness and I guess we could just talk about it right now but like the absolute disgrace of Bravo cutting out that footage from last season when not only we found out that Scott lent money to John which is crazy in and of itself but that Dorinda threw such a fit that they literally had to get Tinsley out of the house because they were worried about her safety. Like, why that was cut and we had to sit through that shitty ass season. And then we have to sit through this whole season being like, why does Dorinda hate Tinsley? Did anything ever happen between the two of them?

And it's like this huge bombshell where they have footage. Like, that is honestly unforgivable. And I feel like when they showed Dorinda's phone call, some of it sounded familiar. I think they used it in a promotion. They did. When she's in the hallway on the phone with John and so it just makes me realize like some things do get taken out that are beyond disparaging that are past the line and so when Denise was asking Bravo to take it out like it wasn't beyond the realm of possibility right yeah I thought Andy

like did a decent job at like being in the middle but I think he could have protected Denise like a little bit more. I agree. Especially when like I feel like the whole premise of why I don't care about the affair is because at some point it's like you are outing Denise. Maybe she's not open if she is bisexual. And that's just like unethical to me. And like that's where I draw the line. I thought maybe Andy would like understand and respect that.

But he was just doing his job. Yeah. It was not an easy job to do. But the season's over. I'm going to miss the Beverly Hills Housewives. But we have a lot of good stuff coming up. Orange County's premiering. And Salt Lake City is, like, kind of close.

And Joby Tardy. So exciting, you guys. And Keeping Up tonight. Oh, I forgot. I have to record. Okay. Oh, it's my anniversary. I don't know when I'm going to watch all this stuff.

Oh, just New York and... And Kardashians. Like, Ben will kill me. Okay, whatever. I have to... We have to figure out how to get screeners. Like, someone will kill me. Okay, whatever. I have to, we have to figure out how to get screeners. Like, someone hit us up. Okay, so that is our show.

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