The Toast - S3 Ep150: Germane To The Conflict: Friday, September 18th, 2020

Episode Date: September 18, 2020

Cheer Star Jerry Harris Arrested on Federal Child Pornography Charge (PEOPLE) Stassi Schroeder Addresses Faith Stowers, Her 'Nazi Chic' Remark, 'Vanderpump Rules' and More on the 'Tamron Hal...l Show' (US Weekly) NeNe Leakes in leaving 'RHOA': 'It wasn't an easy decision' (Page Six) Kathy Hilton reportedly in talks to join 'RHOBH' (Page Six) Ashley Tisdale is pregnant with her first child (Page Six) Keeping Up With The Kardashians Recap Real Housewives of New York City Recap The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoproblems) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Friday, Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. We have made it through the week, our first full week back in so long. It was actually an okay. For a first full week, it's always usually the longest of all weeks. But this week was okay. But I am feeling it today on Friday. You want to know why this week? There was so much going on this week. Like, so much exciting news for us. To talk about so many TV shows,, like ending, starting. It was just like a jam-packed week. I had my anniversary, like it was just like busy. How was your anniversary? Speaking of which, we recorded a very special Patreon episode yesterday
Starting point is 00:00:33 with Claudia and Ben about their marriage, their wedding, the past three years, the past seven and a half years. And it's really quite beautiful. You guys were being like cute. So head over to patreon.com slash the morning toast to take a listen. We're also filming a really fun vlog today. Yes. About that Patreon episode. Like we, you know, I always talk about how like I hated my wedding and I was like so miserable at my wedding.
Starting point is 00:00:52 And me and Ben, after our dinner last night, we like laid in bed and watched our wedding video and we were like, we need to stop like talking shit about our wedding. Like I forget because like I'm such a negative person. Like I only think about like the bad things, like how I didn't like the way that I looked and just like I was miserable during the day. We don't even talk about how I literally had such a negative person like I only think about like the bad things like how I didn't like the way that I looked and just like I was miserable during the day we don't even talk about how I literally had such a beautiful wedding and like I'm officially stopping talking shit about my wedding it's not nice okay me and Ben made the decision we were like I was shook I haven't watched a video in so long and like I don't remember you know I don't remember anything
Starting point is 00:01:17 I barely remember my wedding from three years ago but it was really a sensational beautiful wedding and I'm gonna stop talking shit about it it was wow that's really big of you yeah it was really a sensational, beautiful wedding. And I'm going to stop talking shit about it. It was. Wow, that's really big of you. Yeah, it was just, I'm really focused on like how I looked. I know. I mean, it's so hard not to be. But you looked so cute. Like, stop. No, I had some regrets.
Starting point is 00:01:34 It was like definitely like a different phase of your life. Of my face. And you were super young. Yeah. But you looked cute. Like, stop. You know, I'm officially done talking shit about my wedding and like your dress was so pretty and your hair is so beautiful and your little tiara
Starting point is 00:01:48 like your makeup was on point I don't know I need to stop just stop I'm stopping um so it was actually a great anniversary me and Ben had like a lovely dinner and then you know when we got home things got steamy because we both literally like were so full and writhing in pain in bed but that's just us you know steamy steamy. Steamy. Wow. Speaking of steamy, we have to address the elephant in the room. Theodore Fitzgerald is not here for day two. I understand why he's not. I just want to call it out just in case, like, I know a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:02:15 I'm not even joking, watch with their dogs, and their dogs get, like, so pumped to see Theo on the screen. They also watch with their cats. They do. I got so many beautiful messages i'm not gonna lie when the cat community cat gate went down i know it's not a gate because you guys the cat community is so cool resilient took it in stride laughing with us thank you made me think twice about what i said i'm not gonna lie the way they reacted with such poise that's the way to do it like
Starting point is 00:02:41 you know is to change hearts and minds someone like I got so many pictures of people's cats and they were honestly really cute and people were like we're laughing at today's episode like live I love a group of people that can laugh at themselves I mean I can laugh at myself the cat community has a sense of humor so yeah um I Theo sorry back to Theo he's not here because Jackie and I have a jam-packed day full of plastic surgery after this and Theo actually did not want to get Botox today he He said he's just been like overdoing it. And he wants to take a little bit of a break. Got it.
Starting point is 00:03:07 He has to listen to his body like we all do. He's such a blogger. He's always listening to his body. Yeah. It's important. It's so important. So we miss him dearly. But we have a great show for you.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And we can't wait to get into it. Other than that. There's a lot of news. There was a lot of TV on last night. A lot of TV. Real Housewives of New York recap. And Keeping Up with the Kardashians recap coming at you but i want to quickly discuss my journey re-watching real housewives of new york i by the way like you need to do it because
Starting point is 00:03:33 every time something happens like i just like want to call you and tell you and like you just need to do it so you can know what i'm talking about but i just remember things so differently and last night i got to the iconic brass monkey scene with kelly ben simone i saw your instagram stories and wow i had totally um you just remember things differently and that's not how i remembered it And last night I got to the iconic brass monkey scene with Kelly Van Simone. I saw your Instagram stories. And wow. I had totally, you just remember things differently. And that's not how I remembered it going down. It was seemingly out of nowhere. Like Kelly was on the show for three minutes before she took Bethany down to the brass monkey.
Starting point is 00:03:57 It was just like she, her and Bethany like weren't clicking. They were supposed to like have a meetup where sometimes the women do that and they click. And it's just like Kelly came in hot. No, by the way, Kelly set up the meeting to take Bethany down because she was mad that bethany made like albeit a hilarious joke at kelly's expense at like this charity meeting the night before and she just steamrolled her way in and fucking it was it was brilliant on both sides like bethany held her composure someone literally saying the craziest things and like acting like a lunatic in front of you like she held her composure so so well and kelly did what she did best and she was being nuts and like
Starting point is 00:04:28 it was just the perfect storm of reality television but that's not why I wanted to bring this up I wanted to bring this up because I've just been thinking a lot you know about Housewives there's a lot happening and we're going to report on it in the Housewives universe as it pertains to OGs and you know when you think OGs you you think of the classic five, you know, one from each franchise. But I, um, I'd really forgotten about Jill Zarin. I had. And re-watching Real Housewives of New York has really been a renaissance for me and my relationship with Jill Zarin. When I was in high school, which is when this season aired, I loved Jill. I loved her because I related to her the most. She was like, she reminded me of like a Jewish aunt you know like yeah she was just that's me she hit home yeah she hit home for me you know and I wondered if it would have aged the same and I feel so strongly about Jill and I haven't gotten to like Jill versus Bethany when
Starting point is 00:05:16 I know everyone sided with Bethany and I don't know if my feelings are going to change but I wanted to state my feelings because I feel like Housewives of New York took off so fast and furious and I feel like a lot of it was predicated on like Jill being an icon. Like she was just everything of the sort. And the show is just, it's just unbelievable. Like most of the show was actually filmed in the Hamptons, which is crazy because they all just had huge houses and huge social lives. And they were these socialites.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Like, yeah, it's so crazy. And I went on this Instagram rant just being like, I think we need to pay respect to Jill Zirin. I think a lot of ways, like she's become kind of like the butt of the joke in a lot of ways. And everyone's like, Jill's always wanting to come back on Housewives. And you just forget actually what she contributed. And she contributed a lot. So I just wanted to go on my platform and say that.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And like, I did these like impassioned Instagram stories. And all these people were responding to me that they have been rewatching and they felt the same way. And I felt like good about my content, you know. And literally, my phone starts ringing and I pick up and it's Jill Zarin. And she was like dying over my Instagram stories. She was like, thank you so much. Like she was like going to cry. Like, because I was also talking about how like, honestly, everyone in the world should find a Bobby. Like you've like, when people talk about Bobby now, they're like, Bobby was all about Jill, about Jill but you watch it it's like it's next level husband like it is and he's so like dapper and handsome and
Starting point is 00:06:29 they are just like goals in every sense of the word and like if you're looking for like couple goals it's Bobby and Jill I swear and so I just and she was like getting all emotional and she was like I couldn't believe she was calling me I was like freaking out she was calling me from Boca and it was just like a really unbelievable moment to meet me. Wow that's so beautiful. It was. You're definitely turning me to start watching it again. I just have like so much on my plate. I don't know if I have the bandwidth for that but I will consider it. I will consider your offer. I cleared my plate into the garbage disposal and I just put Roni on it and it has been such a pleasure. Interesting. Well my plate is still full with love island i'm
Starting point is 00:07:06 still watching a few episodes a day it's getting better i mean it had to have been or else i wouldn't still be watching i just am really excited to catch up and like see what's up with the cast and i have to catch up on yellowstone i feel like there are so many shows that you're always talking about i'm like yeah i'm gonna watch that I'm gonna watch that and then I don't drop dead diva yeah and I hated it and I hated it yes we talked about this oh we did okay yeah because like I found the lawyer to be so annoying I love her Jane so just oh I I hated it so much time has passed since I watched it that I was thinking of like redoing it it was one of my favorite shows ever it's on Netflix such a good show I hated her that's crazy yeah okay whatever whatever so without further ado I guess it's time let's just get right into it into the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast
Starting point is 00:07:58 okay first story big news a follow-up from a story earlier this week. Cheer star Jerry Harris was arrested on federal child pornography charge. Jerry Harris, the star of Cheer, has been arrested on a federal charge for allegedly producing child pornography. A statement from federal officials confirms that Harris was formally charged in Chicago on Thursday and alleges the Naperville man was arrested today. For quote allegedly enticing an underage boy. To produce sexually explicit videos and photos of himself. Harris the statement alleges.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Contacted the underage boy on a social media application. And I was like he applied for something. That is an app. And repeatedly enticed him to produce sexual explicit videos. And photographs of himself. And send them to Harris, according to a criminal complaint filed in the U.S. District Court in Chicago. The minor victim informed Harris during their initial online encounter that he was 13 years old. Oh my god. The criminal complaint against Harris alleges the boy told his mother that in a bathroom at a
Starting point is 00:08:59 cheerleading competition, Harris solicited oral sex from him. The complaint also accuses Harris of admitting to FBI agents of soliciting and receiving child pornography on Snapchat from, quote, at least between 10 to 15 other individuals he knew were minors. Oh my god, this is really, really serious. And hearing these like detailed allegations like puts a pit in my stomach. And I've just been reading like what people are saying about it, because I think the general consensus is, like, shock and surprise, because everyone knows Jerry from the documentary,
Starting point is 00:09:30 and he was kind of this underdog, and everyone was, like, rooting for him. And last night on Twitter, not Jerry was trending. People were like, not Jerry. And I was reading all these tweets, and then someone tweeted something actually so interesting about how, like, why that's such a problematic way of going about it because like it just creates like doubt in people's minds and like the way that people are like reporting on it just like being so shocked and like saying no not Jerry he was so great.
Starting point is 00:09:54 It's like a really problematic way of talking about it because like it that sense of doubt like makes survivors like not want to speak up because they always feel like they're not going to be believed. So I'm not going to be talking about like that way anymore. You know what I can't believe it. This is disgusting and shame on him. Wow. I never thought of it like that. I know that makes total sense. Yeah. And it's, it's like, we don't even, we don't know these people. Yes, we saw cheer and it feels
Starting point is 00:10:14 like we got a really good look into their year before Daytona. Right. But you don't know the people that you're watching or that you're following and people are capable of really horrible things. No, this is so crazy. I also think it's really interesting. Well, not interesting, just like interesting. How social media has kind of changed the definition of child pornography. Yes. Because when I hear child pornography, my mind goes to like old SVU episodes. Law and order, yep.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Where it's like produced child pornography, whereas social media has actually like kind of blurred the lines of what is considered child pornography. And I never really thought about it until this particular incident yeah I mean it hasn't like necessarily blurred the lines but it's a different form of distribution yeah yeah that was the wrong phrase I agree with you because when you hear the word child pornography you like you're not thinking about snapchat right and when you think of other celebrities who have gotten themselves involved in things like this in more it's the more traditional child pornography i hate saying it's so disgusting i hate even talking about it can we stop talking about it
Starting point is 00:11:14 yeah this is disgusting honestly shame on jerry justice for the victims and that's that on that and i will no longer be like jerry no of course not no but that's what people are like shocked and so they can't believe it they're like not jerry well you know what yes jerry yes jerry no of course not no but that's what people are like shocked and so they can't believe it they're like not jerry well you know what yes jerry yes jerry i'm so upset disgusting yeah really disgusting um okay next story stassi schroeder is addressing faith stowers her nazi chic remark vanderpump rules and more on the tamron hall show this is this is huge this is huge tamron hall is holding stassi schroeder accountable the ford former banner pump rule star broke her silence on the tamron hall show on thursday september 17th three months after she was fired from the bravo series stassi said quote
Starting point is 00:11:56 i needed time to process my feelings i needed time to process what happened and i feel like one of the most frustrating parts when this all went down was that people expect me to just understand everything immediately and things like that take time and i felt like it would be better for me to So I watched a full interview, did you? Yes. And I thought it was just, like, fascinating. I feel like, I honestly want to give both of them credit because I feel like Stassi, Stassi has fans, like no matter what she does, like people love her. She had a huge platform. And yes, she definitely lost some followers and some fans, but she has a huge platform. And in due time, she could recover in whatever way she wants to and like do a podcast. And there are a
Starting point is 00:12:40 lot of ways that you can come back and like do an interview. And I feel like she took the toughest route possible. Live television on Tamron, who's a huge advocate for black issues. And I feel like I have to give her credit because I think that she could have done a million other interviews or she could have launched her own podcast and spoken about it there and then moved on. People do different things. And I feel like she took the road less traveled. So I have to give her credit for that. I also have to give Tamron credit because I thought she did an amazing job doing the
Starting point is 00:13:04 interview. She didn't leave one stone unturned. and she was really tough on Stassi and I think a lot of people like on Twitter I saw were like she dragged Stassi I actually don't feel like she dragged I feel like she didn't want to leave any stones unturned and I don't think she wanted her audience to be like disappointed in her for not going at it a hundred percent but then I also felt like she had a lot of sympathy too especially towards the end especially like with her being pregnant pregnant and I don't know I just thought I thought Tamron did a really really good job when she either could have like went in on her like so hard and like left her there to you know die or she could have been like light on her and then gone shit on Twitter for not going hard enough yeah so. So I totally agree with you. I think that ultimately at the end of the interview,
Starting point is 00:13:46 like they reached a better place, understanding of each other. I thought Sassy did a good job. I mean, at five months pregnant, like to be going through something so public and serious. It can't be easy. And so I agree with you. It was definitely the harder path to
Starting point is 00:14:07 take whereas she could have gone back to you know her Instagram and her podcast which like people do it's very common but I also think that if she wants opportunities in TV and on TV that a TV referendum is what's needed to get there yeah Yeah, and that's what Tamron said. Basically, you know, a lot of people are questioning her motives. It's like all these things were happening for you and now they're not. And people are curious if you're only doing this and saying this because... You need a paycheck. And because of the financial implications.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And I actually thought Stassi had a great answer just about how she like wants to be a better person for her daughter. And when I was just reading people's reactions on social media, I feel like when all this happened, like people turned on Stassi or people stayed with Stassi and I don't know if the interview necessarily changed any hearts and minds I think the people who stayed with her like believe in her and the people who turned on her and think she's trash like still think she's trash you know for sure but I think a lot of people were disappointed with her and had stayed just disappointed about the situation and now can
Starting point is 00:15:02 maybe give her another chance yeah maybe I don't Yeah. I do commend her for doing it five months pregnant. And I really respected Tamron for saying that too. Yeah. And I think Tamron asked like some, she asked difficult questions, but she also asked like extremely interesting questions about like. Diversity coaches. Yeah. Where do you find a diversity coach?
Starting point is 00:15:19 What's your homework? No. And also in asking about, you know, the financial opportunities that she was having, like she lost her podcast and the show and this and that. And I feel like she addressed the things that we would talk about. Right, and actually I think she went above and beyond in addressing the concerns, because she even went as far to ask what Stassi's thoughts are about Jax.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Like Jax has a really problematic past as well. Does she think Jax would be fired? Which is a tough question to answer when you're saucy because you're trying to you know correct your behave curve correct which is a phrase I had actually never heard of but I'm going to start using it all the time now um and you're trying to like learn and educate and better yourself but you don't want to throw your friends under the bus even though she probably has major opinions on Jax yeah but she didn't throw him under the bus which I also also think, like, I know everyone has an opinion on Jax. I also think that's, like, a cool thing for a friend to do
Starting point is 00:16:09 is not throw your friend under the bus. And this interview was not about Jax. No, no, it wasn't. And she could have went on a tangent and made it about someone else, but she kept the conversation. She accepted full responsibility. She made no excuses, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And that's really all you can ask people to do is understand why what they did was wrong and and work hard to curve correct and right and to and to be better like that's that's all we can ask of people yeah it was perfect I I did want to know um and she didn't touch on if Faith and Stassi have spoken at all like that's really kind of what I'm curious about because to me like the greatest victim in all of this is Faith because her life like Tamron said like could have been so affected by what Kristen and Stassi did and I'm just curious um if they've spoken if she's spoken to Kristen or if she's spoken to Stassi I would actually really like to hear from Faith yeah I feel like they haven't spoken but I
Starting point is 00:17:04 don't know anything I just am theorizing but I feel like they haven't spoken, but I don't know anything. I just am theorizing. But I feel like they will speak at some point. Yeah. I mean, they have to. Like, they should. Yeah. So it'll be interesting to see what happens next.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I mean, Vanderpump Rules doesn't feel like it's close to coming back. Stassi had said that that chapter is closed. That's just not, you know, I mean, she was fired. And that's not the environment she wants to be in in this chapter of her life well I'm curious if if all of this hadn't happened if she would have been on the show pregnant it's just not like a pregnant friendly show I think that she would have and I think that's something that she sort of touched on is like when she said like um that this like needed to happen to her you know she probably would have continued on that path being on the show and just being, you know, who she was. And this has been a wake up call in all areas of her life, it seems. Yeah. Well, good for her. Yeah. Good for Tamron, truly. I thought she did a great job.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And yeah, this is just was just an interesting saga to unfold to like watch unfold. Yeah. Next up, some more Bravo news. NeNe Leakes is leaving Real Housewives of Atlanta. Quote, it wasn't an easy decision. This is crazy. After months of discussion between her team and Bravo, Real Housewives of Atlanta star NeNe Leakes will not be returning to the hit franchise for 13th season.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Quote, I have been on an extremely, extremely long, exhausting, tiring, emotional negotiation, she revealed to her fans via her YouTube channel on Thursday there's been a lot of emotion flying from both sides it has been hard and I've made the very hard and very difficult decision to not be a part of Real Housewives of Atlanta season 13 it wasn't an easy decision for me it was hard okay so this is where I feel like we're at a really big crossroads with Housewives because so many of the OGs are like starting to phase out.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Like we lost Tamara, who wasn't an OG, but season two. We lost Vicky. Bethany is gone. I feel like it's just Lisa Vanderpump. Lisa Vanderpump. I just feel like it's such an interesting time. And if NeNe Leakes wasn't an OG and like I've been watching the last few seasons, like I would have suggested she be fired.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Like at some point you don't become a good housewife when like you don't take accountability for any of your actions and like you just think you're better than everyone like Teresa Giudice syndrome like I made this show this is my show and Nene had that but given the fact that she's an OG it's like so hard to let them go um even though like when I was watching I was just like over her behavior like I just didn't like her attitude with the rest of the women. Yeah, I agree with you. I feel like it is hard to let an OG go, but I don't feel like it was hard to let Vicky Gumbelson go. And also like Nene left the show.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yes, that's true. To me, like that's not an OG anymore. Like I don't, we don't even consider Luann an OG. And she spent one season as friend of housewife. She never even left the show. Jackie, I've been dying on this hill for years. The fact that Luann Della Sepps does not get the respect she deserves especially now re-watching because one season she got demoted to friend of housewife and she made it back and not only did she make it back she made it back and she made it better
Starting point is 00:19:56 I feel like that's so unfair but you're right we consider Nini in OG but she left to become a star in LA yeah like I don't consider Nene an OG and I also at last season didn't consider Bethany an OG like Bethany left too that's true that's true like the only OGs left are Ramona Teresa and Kyle Richards wow that's crazy they must be freaking out um well it seems like it was a negotiation like Nene could no one fired Nene like I think she could have gone back if she really wanted to. But, like, for the amount of money that they were willing to give her, she didn't want to come back. I mean, it's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I feel like this is just an interesting moment in, like, reality TV history. Because Housewives is such a blockbuster franchise built on the backs of these OGs but eventually everything has to phase out and change and time moves on and it's like where do we go from here is there any franchise left that doesn't have an OG well OC and I think that's a real indicator of of where of where it went but the OGs were bringing it down I don't know I think the OGs are like such a nice idea and like I really I'm someone who like likes that having that history and in certain instances I'm like Ramona Singer needs to stay on Real Housewives of New York forever and we'll talk about it in the recap and that is a hill that I think I'm gonna die on okay Teresa Giudice should go yeah because Ramona has never said this is my show
Starting point is 00:21:20 which is honestly for me if you're an OG and you have that attitude or those words even come out of your mouth like that is when you're done for me yeah no and that is Teresa to a t that was Vicky Kyle Richards while she may act like it she has never ever said that agreed I also think it's not so much about being an og but really what you contribute and even though I didn't agree with her this season Kyle was at the center of it all like she was moving pieces she was playing chess with Bobby Fisher like no call to for Kyle to no longer be on the show like Kyle is a she's a great housewife she is like even with this most recent season of Atlanta like NeNe especially towards the beginning of the season was on bad terms with everyone so it's like the show at its core is about a group of friends so if you're not friends
Starting point is 00:21:58 with anyone what what there's no reason left for you to be on the show yeah and I just think that NeNe like hated all the women and I think I think in a lot of ways like NeNe 100% like built the Atlanta franchise like you cannot deny it like she has been gift memed and posted more than any housewives in housewives history and she is so iconic and I feel like you know she claims ownership of the show in a lot of ways and the show made a star out of so many women and these are women that at a lot of points she doesn't get along with so there is that resentment and that is a huge problem but honestly maybe this opens up a moment for Marlo Hampton to like finally be made a housewife yeah because I feel like justice one of these days must be served for Marlo Hampton she's the
Starting point is 00:22:37 most she has been the most entertaining person on the show for the last five years and she doesn't has never held a peach before that's crazy and she has an interesting personal life especially this season where she was taking on her niece and nephew full-time custody like there's a lot going on there let's let's learn about it yeah that's really crazy I don't know I don't find this Nene news like so surprising but that's also because she's left before that's like when Bethany left New York like fool me once that's true fool me twice it's just it's just a big deal like because I think I feel like things are changing. And I hate change. I think that things are changing.
Starting point is 00:23:08 But I think they are changing for the better. Because we watch some of these Housewives. And we are the biggest Housewives fans of all times. But for us, it feels like a chore right now. And there's something that needs to change. The formula is old. Something has to give in order to have like the next iteration of Housewives. And I think some franchises are getting there.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah. Some are not. That's true. I mean, now watching old Housewives, I actually think the show has changed. The structure of the show has changed so much. So little used to happen in a show. Like literally every meal was like the biggest deal. Whereas now it's like there's a million lunches, a million parties all in one episode.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah. So I do think that they've shifted the structure of the show, but there is something definitely holding us back in a lot of ways. Yeah. And I don't know necessarily what it is, if it's the cast members, if it's the fame that comes with the show that stops you from doing certain things on the show and thinking of yourself in like a certain way,
Starting point is 00:24:04 you know, I don't know. it's a similar problem the Bachelor franchise has where it's almost a little bit self-destructive because the way in which the show catapults people to fame not only makes it like toxic in a lot of ways and makes people not actually be their true selves it also makes people so heavily dependent on the show financially it's like Ramona I don't think Ramona could live without the show financially I mean I'm watching now I like Ramona. I don't think Ramona could live without the show financially. I mean, I'm watching now. I told you season two. I don't know if I mentioned it. Um, I totally forget that Ramona was a working woman. RM fashions. Yeah. That's what she's always trying to say. And she was saying that to Leah last night. Like she, that
Starting point is 00:24:37 she's self-made. Yeah. Like she used to buy bulk retail, like overstocked items and resell to like wholesale distributors and she had this little office oh my god like I totally forgot about all that I always think she like worked with Mario at True Faith but no they were totally separate yeah no eventually she starts her house wife businesses right but she was a businesswoman before that also season two I just think it's worth noting that Ramona was still working on her skincare True Renewal remember with the lime green packaging but doesn't that one come out like her skincare. True Renewal. Remember with the lime green packaging? But doesn't that one come out? Like not really. Because True Renewal is different than Ageless. But it's the same concept. Ramona's like being obsessed with skincare and like never really getting it off the ground. And that's why Bethany like,
Starting point is 00:25:14 Bethany's at her house now in season two, like trying her product. And Bethany, when everyone thought she was really harsh with Ramona like a couple seasons ago saying she didn't have a formula. It's like Bethany's been on this journey for 10 years got released the product yeah yeah that's annoying but also a little more housewives related news and we can talk about it all together is that word on the street is that kathy hilton is reportedly in talks to join real housewives of beverly hills kathy hilton the half sister of kyle rich of kim richards and kyle richards wait they're half sisters wait what that's what ph6 Wait, what? Wait, what? Wait, what? Kathy, Kim, and Kyle are half-sisters?
Starting point is 00:25:54 I guess they have the same mom, and then maybe they have different dads. That's crazy. Because also, Kathy Hilton is 10 years older than Kyle. Oh. So a lot can happen in 10 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, you learn something new every day. You really do.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Kathy was approached to join the Bravo show, TMZ reported on Thursday. The 61-year-old mother of Paris and Nikki was offered the role of friend, meaning she would be making regular appearances, but she would not hold a diamond. This is not the first time Kathy Hilton, who has made appearances in the past, has been considered for the show. Page Six reported in 2015 that she was approached to take Kyle's place if she was to quit. And I also think that was during approached to take Kyle's place if she was to quit and I also think that was during the time when Kyle and Kathy were like beefing yeah I mean Kathy Hilton is far
Starting point is 00:26:34 too prestigious to be friend of housewife I'm sorry I actually think even though we were having this discussion yesterday like bona fide celebrities like Denise Richards I don't think are good for the franchise but I don't consider Kathy Hilton to be a bona fide celebrity she's a bona fide socialite which is exactly what the Real Housewives are supposed to be she's very well connected to celebrities but she herself is really not a celebrity she really is and I think that's why Kyle is such a great housewife because she is that same you know figure in the community not a celebrity not someone that we're that we know but a deeply interesting person but I have to like, this doesn't do anything for me.
Starting point is 00:27:06 No, her as a full-time castmate would do a lot for me. For me, it wouldn't because, and I have to blame Kim Richards, who has turned me off to watching any sibling drama take place on Real Housewives. So I guess you and I just could never go on together. Okay, fine. I'll do it. Yes, I agree with you. But I do think a cast of Kathy Hilton brings us closer to this like Kris Jenner moment that we were like living for literally my favorite episode of Housewives this
Starting point is 00:27:32 season was the children's hospital party at Kyle's house because it was so star-studded it was OG like Housewives like uh Adrian and Brandy were there but then like literally Kris Jenner and Kathy Hilton were there and I feel like if we get closer to like the housewives of Beverly Hills being like actual real, like true famous bridge, like I just feel like it could be really good. It could be really good. I personally believe that Kris Jenner will never be a housewife.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And he addressed it. Yeah. On radio Andy, like because there were so many people were talking about it. The second that Denise quit. And he said, he made it seem like there was no talks in progress but even though what people want it he can't imagine her being on a show
Starting point is 00:28:10 where she's not like the producer and has control over everything whereas like when you're a cast mate on Housewives like production and editing like that's all out of your hands yeah whereas she literally edits on iMovie the episodes of Keeping Up With The Kardashians right I while I think it would be incredible if she were I don't think that she ever will be. And so even having Kathy Hilton like that will not get us one step closer to Chris maybe like more Chris adjacent scenes. I don't know. I would accept Kathy Hilton but like that's not what I'm itching for. You know I'm honestly itching for like another Sutton Strack like someone who's really really really, really rich, not super well known, but has a very interesting life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:47 They've really done some hits and misses in Housewives Beverly Hills history. I feel like Catherine Edwards like was a good idea in theory, but very poor in execution. But her connection to OJ and then like the Faye Resnick, like that was definitely interesting, but she herself was not anything. Yeah, but that is not a Housewife make. It is interesting to have like a historic backstory like backstory that you know we can under like we can be like oh like you're uh almost like a historical figure to us but that doesn't carry the episodes I feel like Carlton Jebbia was an amazing cast because she was very very rich which like is really the only thing
Starting point is 00:29:20 that I care about but she had such an interesting family and home life. She was very, very strange. Very strange. And honestly, I feel like Erika Jayne was an amazing cast because she was the same. She was very niche famous. Like she was very, very well known in like the gay EDM scene, which is very niche.
Starting point is 00:29:35 But she herself had such an interesting life, like with her older husband and her palace with the church in it. Like she was an amazing person to cast. Yeah, I agree with you about carlson i really liked her i don't think she got a fair shake no me neither also um like and i feel like teddy mellencamp was a really kind of obvious choice and not that deep where it's like famous father like you know like wow you sound like denise no no i mean she she's but she got on the show because of her dad of course yeah no i, yeah. No, I'm like half kidding.
Starting point is 00:30:05 It's true. Yeah, yeah. So, well, it'll be interesting to see what happens. It's always fun to theorize. It is a very interesting moment in a lot of franchises. I think it's a very interesting moment in New York. I think New York, it's the most interesting moment. Like, I think actually Beverly Hills, Denise could leave and they don't need to hire anyone else.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Agreed. And Sutton and her ex-husband can figure out how to make her a full-time and we're set and I think with Atlanta the same as well I think the show is really really good even without Nene yeah it's just like sad for the OGs but I agree New York I think is and and we'll see where OC takes us but New York is at this fascinating crossroads yeah fifth and final story before we talk about the fascinating crossroads that is Real Housewives of New York Ashley Tisdale is pregnant with her first child I love Ashley Tis. Ashley Tisdale is pregnant with her first child. I love Ashley Tisdale. Ashley Tisdale is going to be a mom.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like a non-problematic, non-controversial queen, just like living in her Malibu house, making TikToks about High School Musical. Like, what else can you ask from a former Disney star? No, you really can't ask much. You can't. The High School Musical star confirmed that she's expecting her first child
Starting point is 00:31:00 with husband Christopher French. The couple shared photos where Tisdale showed off her bump in a white gown while posing next to French, who was also dressed in white. He also posted the news to his Instagram page. Very sweet. So many pregnancies. So many pregnancies.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Gigi Hadid has really been like giving us premium content. At first she was like so quiet and now it's like we got full-fledged photo shoot and she looks so good. Ashley Tisdale looks so cute. Even Stassi was a lot more far along than I. Like time is just moving so fast. Time is moving so good. Ashley Tisdale looks so cute. Even Stassi was a lot more far along than I like. Time is just moving so fast. Time is moving so fast. She's five months along, which is crazy. Like five months just went by like that. Emma Roberts, Morgan Stewart. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Everyone's pregnant. Yeah. Malika. Well, not anymore, but not anymore, but I have a lot of thoughts about Malika. Oh, okay, cool. Do you want to get right into it? What do you want to start with? Let's start with Kardashians because we literally just spoke so much about housewives. Like I think we need a break. Okay. Um, so honestly it was like a really boring episode agreed and I felt really confused because I feel like the last time we heard from the house from the Kardashians it was like Kourtney's done and I literally saw her more than ever this episode Kourtney should become a real housewife of Beverly Hills no I don't agree first of all she thinks filming is so toxic they literally film way more on housewives and they take like full-fledged trips like 24 7 yeah but I think she doesn't like filming with her
Starting point is 00:32:07 sisters because they're like mean to her because everyone wait till she meets a housewife I know but like at least her sisters have to love her and have her back like Courtney and Teddy could be friends and I think that would be interesting I mean it was definitely I would be up for it but I don't think she would do it like I don't think Kim should do it I don't think Chloe would be a fit but I actually think Courtney like could be's actually, like, the same age as, like, Teddy. Yeah. That would be interesting, actually. Just think about it.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Sit on it. That's crazy. It's, like, between Kris or Kourtney. Right. No, it's, you actually forget. And that's the way it's gonna, like, the tides will turn. Yes. You actually also forget.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I feel like the Kardashians are literally 25. No, I. But they're 40. I know. They're real, like, mom age. They're real housewife age. It's crazy. they didn't like get famous until you know so late in life yeah well late considering like you would it feels like
Starting point is 00:32:51 they got famous at 18 but it was really like 28 yeah like when kim was with paris like i feel like she was 15 no no she was like almost 30 no yeah she was with paris she was probably like 22 or 23 maybe they've just been famous now for so long yeah no but I feel like when they started their show like Courtney was over 25 yeah I think she might have even been 30 how long have they been on tv I don't know we'll have to do the math another time um okay but back to this episode so I didn't really understand why literally we got more Courtney than ever and it was like all so. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I thought we all made the decision that she was going to stop filming. And the Poosh content was just like a giant no for me. Even though at the end, like at first I was like, why is this thread of the cuddle sanctuary like being weaved throughout the whole episode? Like it literally didn't stop. And then at the end, like I kind of understood. But like it was really like a lot of Kourtney content. And like I have absolutely no interest in
Starting point is 00:33:46 learning about the employees from Poosh like I'm sure they're lovely girls and I'm sure they're amazing but like I don't need them as cast members like at all at all it was so annoying like first of all that the main storyline is Poosh when I thought that we hadn't parted ways with Courtney we all said our goodbyes and I made major inner peace with that major inner peace and it's like not only are we getting Courtney back on the show it's like her personal projects like poosh which absolutely nobody asked for this whole cuddling storyline was like making me cringe honestly like because like watch it like the thought of all the cuddling I literally couldn't fathom oh wait I have two things to say Courtney looked so much like Kim this episode did you think that no oh. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Like I think maybe she's just been like heavily influenced by Kim's style, like with her hairstyle. I could not tell them apart. Like it was really freaking me out. Oh wow. I also think that Kim was really busy this particular week when they were filming because she wasn't in the episode that much. And Kourtney was like forced to pick up a little bit of the slack.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Like Kim was just like busy saving the world. But I also think that the agreement that they came to when Kourtney said she wasn't going to film anymore was that she want like she would only be filming like her personal projects which is like the absolute work yeah when she did clean con like that's the shit like we really don't want to see really don't want to see um but there were some highlights in the episode and honestly um usually um I'm like over like the ancillary like secondary character storylines like the pranks like no no not that I like but like the Malika's the Jonathan Chabon but I actually thought that the Malika storyline was fascinating I think that she
Starting point is 00:35:10 literally was the most beautiful pregnant woman I'd ever seen in my life and like I actually really like was like hurting for her like I I know like the feeling of being so overwhelmed is like one thing but like while you're pregnant like dealing with all this drama with like your ex-boyfriend um I like actually really appreciated the insight into it because I had some questions myself about like her situation and I thought Chloe threw her like literally the most beautiful baby shower I'd ever seen in my life the most beautiful baby shower of all time I remember when we saw it on Instagram and I think we reported on the show like it was like bear themed yeah and it was just so fucking cute and even on Instagram it couldn't capture like really how beautiful it was because like I saw a lot of balloons I'm like
Starting point is 00:35:43 those look like condoms but like with the full picture and seeing it on Kardashians like it was stunning and everyone wearing like a shade of nude or brown it was just beautiful and the ears the ears so cute who do we think paid for it Khloe paid for the whole thing that's so nice but I also think that the Kardashians like get really good deals on the parties that they do because like they work with those vendors all the time so Khloe just used her connections and then picked up the bill at the end which is like what regular people do if a friend is throwing a baby shower like it's not at that level but right but it's all relative um I thought really interesting how the Beermans were there did you catch them yes I did I saw Brielle and Cam loved it I know that they're friends with Malika so you just love like
Starting point is 00:36:19 a real house a reality Wang was there because they're friends from their time on um famous in love oh my, that show. I forgot about that show. That show is like a little diamond in the rough. They got actually a lot of good people. Yeah. Brandi Glanville, was she on it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Yeah, she was on it. She was on a different season. Ronnie Magra was on it. Oh, when he dated Malika. Yeah. Wow, that's such an interesting time capsule. It is really interesting. So I thought that the episode was a little boring, actually.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Aubrey O'Day, that's where she met Pauly. Pauly D. By the way, also justice for Aubrey O'Day. There's a lot going on with her. Have you been seeing? I've seen some things. I just like, whatever it is that she's doing, maybe she's Photoshopping her photos.
Starting point is 00:36:59 The fact that her body has become national news, I can't imagine the pit that she has. That's not right. And no one would do that to a man. So I'm taking Aubrey O'Day's side. I don't care that she facetunes her photos. So do I. Yeah, I don't care that she fac. Like, that's not right. And no one would do that to a man. So I'm taking Aubrey O'Day's side. I don't care that she face tunes her photos. Like, so do I. Yeah, I don't care that she face tunes her photos.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And, like, people just, like, now, like, out to get her, making her look as bad as possible in photos just to prove that she's face tuning. Like, justice for her. Yeah. But back to Kardashians. It was a fun, it was actually, like, kind of a boring episode. But I actually really enjoyed the, um, the prank. I just love the pranks. I think that Kris Jenner like just deserves everything in
Starting point is 00:37:26 the world so like seeing she's my actually become one of my favorite characters on the show yeah no but also watching Chloe in the dumpster like there were certain shots where she like looked like Kris like in the face yes they did a really yeah I know but like they did a really good job with the makeup and like even though there were times where I was like is Chris acting like does she know you know it was kind of annoying but like I didn't even care I was like okay so it's my scripted show now also the footage when Chris realized and like they have her her face pause and like all the effects I was dying laughing I was so confused at first because I thought that they I forget that this is the same season as what we've just been on a break.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah. So I was so confused. I'm like, didn't Kris Jenner see. Watch the episodes. Yeah. And then it dawned on me that actually like this is like the next week. They just took a huge break because of coronavirus. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I was really confused. Okay. Yeah. No, I thought the same that I was like, no. Like how is she falling for the same prank twice? I was like, maybe it aired the week later. Like, I don't know. Yeah. But I think I figured it out. Yeah. Towards the end. But I was like No Like how is she falling For the same prank twice I was like maybe it aired The week later Like I don't know Yeah but I think I figured it out
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah Towards the end But I was majorly confused No but it's nice To have them back I definitely missed Kim The season looks like It'll be good
Starting point is 00:38:34 And very real And so I'm excited Yeah Now let's do Real Housewives of New York Part 2 reunion Tinsley was there For the majority of it
Starting point is 00:38:43 It was still very much Like Dorinda vs. Tinsley Tinsley just like she she's beauty and she's grace she really is and like I've always really liked her but she's always been really impossible to defend because she can't defend herself and like she just found I hate the phrase like found your voice but like she really found her voice when they did a flashback to her in Sonia's garden talking about her mugshot to Carol and Ramona I was like who is that yes and i was like wow she really has grown up a lot and i think that in a lot of ways like the show was obviously good for her celebrity but i think it was actually good for her confidence i think so too yeah it was and i remember that's like kind of the journey that
Starting point is 00:39:17 she was going on like she really when she showed up she was like still trying to be tinsley mortimer from like 2007 socialite curly hair i think also credit where it's too Carol really helped her get out of that shell like when she made her cut her hair and they were like you know she was hanging out downtown and I think it's been really good for her and it was nice to see her stick up for herself like after a season of watching her get completely shat on yeah and I just feel like this episode did for me what it just like reinforced everything that I feel like I literally cannot stand Dorinda like as a human being I just feel like this episode did for me what it just like reinforced everything that I feel like I literally cannot stand Dorinda like as a human being I just think she's an awful person and I guess you don't know people from TV but like just what I've seen I really don't like I was getting
Starting point is 00:39:53 frustrated with Leah because I feel like she's so reasonable and such a voice of reason but her Achilles heel is that she's friends with Dorinda and I would have loved to like seen her go in and like give her Leah McSweeney one two to Dorinda because she really fucking needed it agreed Ramona Singer I just feel like I'm on this bridge with her where it's like she's insane and like give her Leah McSweeney one two to Dorinda because she really fucking needed it. Agreed. Ramona Singer, I just feel like I'm on this bridge with her where it's like she's insane, but I love that she is the only one who really goes after Dorinda and points out how unreasonable she's being. But Ramona herself is like such a hypocrite that it's hard to be on her side. But she is so iconic.
Starting point is 00:40:18 She's so iconic. And like, I don't know, there's something this season. I've never really thought so much about Ramona Singer before but especially after last night's episode in the journey that we went on with Ramona and Leah where Ramona was really wrong about a lot of things that she did to Leah but eventually they came to this understanding and Leah even like admitted you know Ramona being like a maternal figure to her and then like turning on her really brings up some shit for her and I don't know I just like I really like the place that they got to and like Ramona getting up and doing the elbow bump like I just no but I really like I just I really like
Starting point is 00:40:51 Ramona as a housewife I really do and I think the comparisons that like if Dorinda goes like Ramona needs to go like I don't I don't know where they come from no I think that Ramona first of all had like kind of a a realization that Leah is like really like the future of the show and I know Ramona relies so heavily on the show financially that she like she will do you'll have to pry the show from her cold dead hands and I think she knew like she had to get with Leah the thing is I actually think Ramona is like so not like self-aware in that regard like oh everyone loves Leah I need to go be team Leah it's like everyone loves Leah I need to take her down no no no no no I I don't think I I didn't mean it in that way I meant like Ramona's finance like future stability depends on this show and I think not like everyone likes Leah I need to like Leah Bravo needs Leah
Starting point is 00:41:36 I need Leah you know I think she would see Bravo needs Leah and it would make her like go into aggressive mode not self-preservation I think, I think that that's what happened. And I think she, like before the reunion, she had a huge realization, like that she needs Leah on her side. I don't think Ramona, unfortunately, that would, that would make Ramona like a smart, you know, self-aware person. I don't think she thinks like that. I do. I think that's how she's managed to stay on the show for so long.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And I also think that like when she's speaking, and even when she's saying like, when you're just like, please say sorry, or like, please say you would have done it that way. Like she doesn't say shit. She doesn't long and I also think that like when she's speaking and even when she's saying like when you're just like please say sorry or like please say you would have done it that way like she doesn't say she doesn't mean like she doesn't like yes she's always apologizing which she says next week is actually really funny she's like yeah it's better than always denying true like during like she really deflecting sorry when she says that she's sorry and like it might take her a while to end up at that conclusion like with this stuff with Leah's mental health but by the time she realized like what she had done and she said I wish I brought it up straight with
Starting point is 00:42:28 you she meant that yeah of course you know of course I just think that there is a little bit of a method to her madness like you don't stay on the show for so long and really stay like the star of it for so long when you're just like running and chasing after every feeling you have like there is a little bit of strategy in it. Yeah. But I think the strategy is like I'm going to chase after every feeling that I have because I'll always be in the mix. I think that Sonia was literally a mute during last night's episode. She was completely irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yeah. Which is so unlike her. Because she didn't take any sides this season. She was just always showing up, you know, drunk and sailor. And she's just the lovable Sonia. But like she's not germane to the conflict she's not germane to the conflict episode title um also why i loved last night's episode is because i feel like and now i'm re-watching real housewives of new york from the start i don't know if i mentioned that but i love luann so much and i and i remember
Starting point is 00:43:21 loving her and i love i've always loved her even at her worst. And I feel like the women really gave her credit last night for how much progress she's made and just being like, you know, no matter what point you're at in your life. And like, she was talking about her dad, like you can always get better and like, you can always move forward. And that's all we can expect from people. And I just like, I feel like in so many ways she's the countess and she's annoying and whatever, but like, she really is this like resilient person and I just stand till the day I die sorry I said it yeah and we think now like she's resilient because she got arrested and did her probation but like no she's resilient because if you watch season one to go from where she was to where she is now like that's the resilience to like she has literally been on a
Starting point is 00:44:00 journey to go from it's crazy to watch you totally forget like she was it like everyone in the group wanted to be her friend she was the definitely the most prestigious cast to person to get cast on the show like I think it was a big deal when Bravo got her and she just had this fall from grace and it kept getting worse yeah and I feel like now she's really at the point where she's picked herself back up and she's standing on her own two feet and she's like really successful in her own weird space and I'm really I'm impressed by that and I love people who grow and evolve yeah and I also do like I find myself on her side when she is like when the drama happens you know like she's very like she's a
Starting point is 00:44:37 friend of Dorinda but like she's willing to call her out I don't think she likes to get her hands too dirty but I do feel like with and I also like the friendship between her and Leah I think the two of them are just like like adults yeah yeah like people who I want to hear from yeah the episode was it was good it was a little exhausting to just keep going back and forth between Dorinda and Tinsley because they weren't really getting anywhere and they were just like talking over each other and like people were butting in Ramona was butting in Leah was butting in they were literally talking over each other and like Dorinda's apologizing while Tinsley's talking and then like doesn't stop talking to hear what Tinsley's saying it's like that's not an apology
Starting point is 00:45:09 and I completely am with Tinsley on any apology from Dorinda is far too little too late no I'm completely with Tinsley I'm so happy for her I think that ultimately like the journey that she took and this is crazy I think that she's a really good example. Like, I remember when Bethany said, like, this girl is setting women back. Right. But I think, ultimately, it didn't become about, like, wanting to choose a man over your career. Like, it became about, like, choosing love over fame. Right. And by the way, that is so well put. Yeah. And at the time, the lead up to it really seemed like she would be choosing Scott over herself and her career in New York and being a housewife.
Starting point is 00:45:48 But I don't think that that was the reality. I think that she chose love and happiness over fame and all the things that comes with it. So I feel like that's probably where her and some of the women couldn't. Dorinda sees it totally as giving yourself up for a man, whereas I think Leah and maybe even Ramona and Luann feel like no no you gave up and Ramona and Luann would never give up the fame like literally like I said they will not give it up and so they can't even imagine so to see someone do it at the at the top of their game this young girl literally give it
Starting point is 00:46:18 all up for like a life and love and a fairy tale like they can't relate they can't imagine doing it but they respect it they respected it and then again so I respected them for giving Tinsley the kudos that she deserves and also she didn't she wasn't hasty about it she talked to Bravo she talked to her producers Andy was on her side too it was on her side she went about it in the right way but she chose like happiness and I'm happy for her I agree I think in the end like there were some really low points for her on the show and I think she couldn't have gotten to this moment without those low points but for a while I was like damn. I agreed with Bethany like this girl's setting back women like two decades. Yeah. But it she was never really good at expressing herself and I think at
Starting point is 00:46:57 the end like it all came together in this like beautiful way and I think that Real Housewives of New York ended up being like an amazing thing for Tinsley and Tinsley added her own flair to the show like she was definitely a good a perfect cast like she was a former socialite like it was perfect and I think this chapter closing it's beautiful yeah and I actually think that Tinsley owes Dorinda a debt of gratitude because Dorinda made Tinsley so likable yes which is something that I never thought a place we would get to because like Tinsley was just always like being so cringy you were like a very rare Tinsley fan, but most Housewives fans did not like Tinsley.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yeah, no, I completely understood why. She was really hard to like, but Dorinda made her likable by being so vicious to her. So she should send her flowers. So we have one more episode. I don't know what more they could talk about, literally. I think they're going to go back in on Ramon and Dorinda. I mean, Dorinda, it's just exhausting. Like I would love for everyone to go in on
Starting point is 00:47:45 Dorinda but it's absolutely exhausting to like watch her argue with women because first of all she's just all over the place she deflects deflects and she never actually gets held accountable and she never actually apologizes so it's like fruitless it's fruitless you know if she could like have a come to Jesus moment and be like yeah I saw myself this season that's not who I want to be I think we're all look at Tinsley we're all capable look at the way that we perceive Tinsley we are all capable of changing our opinions of course about people based on on their growth but when when you're doubling down right I feel like the housewives community is actually very forgiving in the sense like someone can act like an animal but if they own it like completely I think it actually makes people
Starting point is 00:48:21 makes fans respect the housewife more but the worst thing you can do is double down on really poor behavior and like not give a shit and not apologize because then it's like you're you're disposable in the franchise like no one wants to watch that yeah or like you can double down here and there like if you really believe something but like to not apologize at all like everyone even our favorite housewives like they probably have one thing to apologize for yeah but to not be able to see yourself in the wrong ever yeah is a really bad quality as a human being and a housewife yep and that's what Ramona said last night during this she's like your Achilles heel is that you can never be long and it is going to be your detriment and I actually think that that is why she got fired that's actually very well put yeah Ramona
Starting point is 00:49:02 Ramona I mean Ramona says things like that and then she doesn't know how to pronounce kudos is it kudos tsunami always tsunami is it tsunami she's she's so funny like but that's why she's a legend literally her getting up and going to the bathroom and forgetting her mask when she paused it's like i feel like we've all been there it was so real it was so but then also when it was a lunch break, all the women got up and everyone who was yelling at her to get her mask, like everyone forgot their mask. Everyone's like. By the way, that's life.
Starting point is 00:49:28 It's like you go to a restaurant and like you don't have to wear your mask at a restaurant. Then you get up to go to the bathroom and literally you pause as you're walking because you realize you forgot your mask. Yeah. It was so funny.
Starting point is 00:49:36 And her clear mask has just become like this iconic thing for her. She should come out with merch, honestly. That would be really funny. Oh my God. So it was a good episode. It was fine. Wraps up next week
Starting point is 00:49:45 and then our docket gets kind of cleared because we're done with Beverly Hills in New York but then Salt Lake City starts in November which is kind of far. Salt Lake City is going
Starting point is 00:49:51 to make me really want to go to Utah. Yes. I can already feel it in my bones. And then don't be tardy. So it's an exciting time to be a Bravo fan.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yep, it is. And it's an exciting time to be a Jew because it's Rosh Hashanah tonight. Oh, right. So to all our Jewish followers we hope you have a sweet, happy, and healthy new year. Shana Tuva Ometukah, ladies.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Shana Tuva Ometukah. Enjoy time with your family. Put your phone down. If you're not Jewish, feel free to use this as a renaissance anyway because I'm done with this year. So I'm starting new year. Yeah. On Monday, it's new year, new me.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Everyone's like, when 2020's over, but it's like... It's over for us. The Shana is over. The Shana is over. You know, you can start again. Like, you can start your new year tomorrow if you want to. like when 2020 is over but it's like it's over for us not is over the shana is over you know you can start again like you could start your new year tomorrow if you want to unfortunately like rosh hashanah means we're one step closer to yom kippur which actually means we are 10 days away we're gonna start the countdown here at the toast okay i'm ready to smell the breath
Starting point is 00:50:37 by the way i didn't even think about can you imagine yom kippur breath in a mask no i know and some people were saying like at least you won't have to smell other people's breath because of the mask. I'm like, I'm not concerned with other people's breath. Well, I am, but I'm more concerned. With my own.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And my own in a mask is going to be toxic. Deadly. Deadly. So when you're at Temple, if you're going to Temple this year, pray for us in our breath, okay? Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:01 And if you're not doing anything, have an amazing weekend. Don't drink and drive. Have a good time. And we'll see you you on monday hope you guys enjoyed today's episode thank you so much for listening to the morning toast the millennium morning show where we deliver the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast every weekday monday through friday on youtube so if you're watching us on youtube please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up we're also available as a podcast and
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