The Toast - S3 Ep153: Selling Sunset Steens: Wednesday, September 23rd, 2020

Episode Date: September 23, 2020

Lauren Conrad Reveals Why She Distanced Herself From The Hills Cast (E! News) Haters be damned, 'Ellen' sees highest premiere ratings since 2016 (NY Post) Teddi Mellencamp confirms 'RHOBH' exit (Page Six) The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time (Rolling Stone) Christina Anstead and Husband Ant Split After Less Than 2 Years of Marriage (PEOPLE) Selling Sunset Recap Dear Toasters Advice Segment The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoproblems) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, millennials! Welcome back to the morning toast! Welcome, welcome, welcome! Yes! Welcome to the morning toast! You are on another level in terms of your pitch. Yeah, because I'm on pitch. Welcome to the morning toast! Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to the morning toast! Happy hump day! Everyone, it doesn't quite feel like a hump day because Theo was super busy this morning and wasn't able to make it to the morning toast. Happy hump day. Everyone doesn't quite feel like a hump day because Theo was super busy this morning and wasn't able to make it to the studio. So if you're watching live on YouTube, I genuinely apologize. Not only for Theo's absence, but B, for a couple audio issues we've had this week.

We're still working it out. Hopefully it is fixed today. Do let us know if it isn't fixed. I know you will anyway. Hi. I miss THEO. It's a beautiful day in New York City City so I'm so glad he's out there you know what you know as long as he's out there somewhere where he can roam um I feel like we

should acknowledge you know this specific time of year it's such a special time of year where it's definitely between summer and winter I know that they consider that fall but it just happens so fast and fall is either like really cold or like you're still getting chub rub from the summer. And this week has just been an absolute delight. It's been sublime, really has been. Today's like going to be the warmer of the days of the week. Fabulous. And so I'm baring my legs once again. I know you guys missed them so much. That's a crazy thing to do at the height of fall. Yes. It's also a crazy thing to do to wear this romper on this show because it's really short. Yes it is. And I was hoping for a Theo

covered thigh today but I didn't get that so I'm here out here in all my bravery say hello to my little thigh not so little. Theo is definitely like um an emotional support but he's also a physical support. Mm-hmm. Covers thighs, legs, arms. He does but I'm just gonna. Brave it. I'm gonna own my choice. No you're gonna brave it bravely. Yeah in an extremely brave way. Um so today's a fabulous episode because it's Wednesday which means you're automatically just gonna get an amazing episode because we do Dear Toasters on Wednesday which is our advice segment so we'll do that at the end of the show but normally we would not have any tv. You are shouting. Am I? Normally we wouldn't have any tv to recap on Wednesdays but Jackie and I both spent the greater part of yesterday day. The whole day. The whole day

catching up on Selling Sunset which is something we have been wanting to do. Something we said we were gonna do and I just decided to take the plunge. I actually tried to start watching the other day but my Netflix was like not working and it wouldn't play for me so I was like oh maybe this isn't my journey but I gave it another shot yesterday and it played and we have so many thoughts Claudia and I were watching like all day at the same time just like texting each other our thoughts honestly we should publish our text messages they're so funny like some of them are a little mean are not not publishable. To be honest, I feel like you and I are not in the majority. And I used to think that I had the most like universal thoughts on reality TV. But over the last few seasons of like Housewives and just different things we've recapped,

I have found that like we do not have the popular opinion. And I certainly do not have the popular opinion on Selling Sunset. So if you're like a Chris Shell stan, you might want to turn this off. We're up to season two, episode five. So if something big happened in season three, we don't know about it yet. We've really avoided spoilers. But as to where we are now, like I absolutely stan Ride or Die. Like we'll never go against.

Never waver. Christine Quinn. And I know that's unpopular is it I don't care I don't want to hear it like usually I know I mean I I read what everyone else has to say I see that they're valid but I but I have some sort of feeling in my heart and I just can't explain it I understand this is not that no I can explain it 100% I don't know how anyone could see anything else this woman is everything of the sort. I have so much. I want to save all of my thoughts.

Yes, we will get to it. We'll get to it after the past five, but I have so many thoughts. But that's really where our thoughts are going to take us, which is that Christine Quinn deserves everything. She deserves. And you know what? It appears as if she might be getting everything. No, that she has everything.

Because I went stalking her Instagram, and it's just full of everything it's full of actually premium content so in our TV recap segment we will be recapping what we have gotten up to and I feel as if by tomorrow at the same rate we will probably be done with Selling Sunsets if you're looking for the full recap that'll be tomorrow but first impressions first impressions I actually think I have sort of a busy day today but maybe I could squeeze the rest of it in. But we'll figure it out. We'll be done by the end of the week. Yeah, I love now being like included in people's conversations because I've seen so much content, especially on TikTok, with just like different selling sunset jokes, like Divina's $75 million

thing. I'm like, I literally had no idea what they were talking about. So now I just love being included. Yeah, I like being included. Also, the way that the show is filmed is just like excellent quality. The conversations, I think even season one, like either they're really good at their makeup or they got glam for every filming. And it's just, it's a pleasure to watch.

So we'll be recapping that. And of course, delivering the past five. So I guess without Theo here, there's really like no time like the present to just get into it because, you know, we could always wax poetic about him. But when he's not here to listen to the accolades, what's the point? What's the point? If Theo gets a compliment in the woods and no one's there to hear it, did it ever really happen? Yes.

I agree. But without further ado, it is time for the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. Yep. And I have nothing to say. I'm feeling pretty good. My RDH has passed. That's good, but you want to keep an eye on it because you just never know when it could flare up again.

A hundred percent, and it's all good. Thank you for all the well wishes in my journey to the cure for RDH. It's really sweet. Okay, first story. Big story of the day. Lauren Conrad went on Whitney Port's podcast, and they're just going down memory lane and she's revealing why she distanced herself from the Hills cast.

Oh my God, I had no idea. I saw like a few headlines that were so clickbaity that I didn't even read the Lauren Conrad story, but I love that she went on Whitney Port's podcast. I feel like those are the two queens in my opinion and like I'm glad that they see each other. Yeah. While they met on the hit MTV series as interns at Teen Vogue nearly 15 years ago, Conrad has not remained close with her former castmates

since she left the show in 2009 and did not appear in the series revival. And while they couldn't come physically together because of the pandemic, they did finally catch up virtually for Whitney's podcast with Wit. Spoiler alert, they were quite honest with each other. Okay.

As Port told Conrad, quote, I would say the question that I get asked the most, most of the time is, are you still friends with Lauren? That's what people really want to know. That's how people really got to know us, was together in the Teen Vogue closet. And people always want to know the behind the scenes and like if there was any drama.

Her answer proved, no matter their distance, that Port will always have Lauren's back. Oh, wow. Quote, my answer to them is always, you know, it's friends that you went to college with, good friends that you had really special experiences with, that you always have Lauren's back. Oh, wow. Quote, my answer to them is always, you know, it's friends that you went to college with, good friends that you had really special experiences with, that you always have love for, but that you don't always keep in touch with.

Right. Conrad agreed. Quote, I think like what you said is perfectly describing it. I have so much love in my heart for you. And like we shared this really weird, unique thing. And I think it is, it's like old college friends, you know? I'll always remember you like that, and I'll never have that with anybody else.

Yeah, I feel like Lauren has kind of been really ambiguous, like, and super distant from the Hills girls and the Hills franchise. And I do think that, I actually believe that this is the case for her and Whitney. Like, I don't think that they're best friends, like, calling each other every day, but they don't have bad things to say about each other.

And it's just, you do, you grow apart. Like, you forget, like, these kids were like 21 years old. But I don't think that's the case with Lauren and all of the castmates and I definitely think there are a lot of people that she intentionally is not keeping in touch with she has bad blood with but the way that Lauren and Whitney describe their friendship now or their relationship now like I feel that way about certain people too it's like I never talk to you I never see you but when I do it's such a pleasure and like we can go down memory lane yeah and have a good time I feel like the way the relationship they're describing is like a very common adult relationship when it's like you're phasing out of college into the real world

and it's years go by and time passes on you realize you like these people technically like you haven't seen them in forever like they're not really like your friends but you'll always love them and appreciate the time you spent together yes and I feel like that's a very mature thing to do a very mature thing to do speaking of Lauren Conrad on that episode of Selling Sunset where the WAG co-owner um wanted to get a house for herself and she sent like a member of her team and they said that she looked like Lauren Conrad okay she looked like Hilary Duff that's what I thought too when the woman showed up I'm like is this a surprise Hilary Duff is a co-founder of WAG? I thought the same thing and then they were like you look so much like I'm like okay finally they're gonna address it. Yeah.

Lauren Conrad. No the girl was like yeah I get that all the time. I'm like you do. You literally look nothing like her. Sometimes I feel like the way people look on TV like even though they're not doing anything different just like the way they look on TV is just not what they look like if you were to meet them in real life. I also think like as a society you know as a society we are progressing past certain things like it's really not appropriate to ask people you know when they're getting pregnant like there are things we're evolving past and I think we need as a society to evolve past telling people who they look like because it never comes off flattering unless you're literally telling me like you look like Giselle Claudia like oh my god is that Heidi Klum I'm insulted I don't care like I have a certain image of myself

in my head and it might not be what the world sees but it's what I see and when somebody disrupts what I see with like oh you look like this or said showing me a picture like of his Instagram I get it all the time in my DMs like yeah of a random girl but I thought this was you and like I take it as an insult I do because that's not what I think I look like. I think as a society, we have to evolve past that. We no longer can tell people who they look like. I think you might be alone in that. I don't. I don't think so. I understand. No, I mean, on, on the, between the two of us. Oh, not in the world. I think people do agree with you. Um, I think that, yes, sometimes it can be so insulting. I get I get really some

like tragic stuff and it's not that the person that they're comparing to you too is like ugly it's just like you have a certain image of yourself that you protect in your mind yes but then other times I look at other people and I'm actually really good at um realizing who people remind me of like not even who they it might be who they look like, but it's also just their mannerisms. And that was something I was going to say about Selling Sunset. They all look like,

they remind me of other people, like mixtures of other people. And if I reminded someone so closely of someone else in the way that I see comparisons, I would want to know. Like I, so then I could look at them and be like, oh, I guess that's what I'm like. Okay, but for the most part,

people compare you to other people based on physical looks, not on mannerisms maybe one out of ten times but it's mostly on looks yeah I guess maybe but also sometimes they'll send me people who are like blonde who I don't think look like me but like there's something about their smile that like reminds me of them and I just find it interesting and I don't take them all and and judge myself based on what well I don't find them every comparison I get in the DM and if you're listening to this maybe just don't ever tell me who you think I look like I think that's a good a good rule like Claudia doesn't enjoy it no but I don't want to say that I do because then I'll get so many I just got one the other day and like I really didn't fucking the ballerina yeah I saw

it too did you see the comparison do you see that I look like her no she just had red hair and pale skin right you could be Renesmee you know like you look like her? No, she just had red hair and pale skin. Right. You could be Renesmee, you know, like you could be anyone. Right. I don't, I don't fuck with that just because I'm like, I don't want to, don't tell me I look like another redhead. But like, if I really have like similar. Well, like with Madelaine Petsch, like you guys actually look physically alike, not just

beyond the red hair. Yeah. But it's like when Sarah Foster watches Selling Sunset, does she see her face on Christine Quinn? Because that's all I see. What? Christine Quinn is Sarah Foster's face. Christine Quinn is Christina Aguilera and Erika Jayne 100%. To me, Christine Quinn is Sarah Foster and Jeffree Star

with a sprinkle of Erika Jayne. Oh my God, I totally do not see sarah foster whatsoever in christine quinn oh i see has anyone else ever made that comparison i don't think so i mean now let's go through our comparisons because maya is literally the israeli sutton foster with a little bit of giselle and gwyneth paltrow brunette gwyneth paltrow but sutton foster is like 80 she's 80 sutton foster to me 20 gwyneth paltrow also she's 100% my friend Daniella Orlemans like if anyone knows her it's fucking crazy like she's also Dutch so she speaks with an accent and like they carry themselves the same way and they're so tall it freaks me out they're so similar um

Heather is Christina Almusa and um Davina is like Pam from The Office like she's like so basic she's like I basic. She's like. I don't have anyone for her. She's the only one who doesn't really remind me of someone else. No, not Pam from The Office. Kimmy Schmidt. Oh, I guess. But when she had brown hair, Ellie Kemper in The Office, she had brown hair.

Okay. That's who Davina is. Okay, I feel that. And Chris Schell, you said she's Andy Dorfman. Oh my God. One, unequivocally Andy Dorfman. I think she's Andy Dorfman plus JoJo Fletcherquivocally andy dorfman i think she's andy dorfman plus jojo fletcher and all of them on the show are a mixture of two people yeah also amanda i haven't figured

out who she is yet but it's bothering me so much i'm gonna get to it it took me a whole season to figure out who season one people looked like i'm gonna figure out who amanda reminds me of and it's gonna rock your world and i need like to me these comparisons are on point christine quinn is sarah foster like even the way she just like looks at you not like oh my god every her face like if you just like took her face off and put it next to sarah foster's they're twins to me like i think christine quinn like might be a like a child of david foster oh my god god Jackie there's no fucking way I will die on this hill they look nothing like see it you're not looking right nothing like no oh my god Claudia how can you say that nothing how can you say that are you back to

this Lauren Conrad story oh back to Lauren Conrad she doesn't look like the girl from Selling Sunset oh yeah that's what it was but I'm happy that her and Whitney are still friends I feel like of all the friendships like that was the most mature you know Whitney was like so she was like kind of better than everyone else so above it all yeah she was like Lauren's work friend but she was really like this genius like I feel like everyone really respected her yeah for sure and it's it's still really surprising that she went on like the reboot I think she's above it but she stays above it on the reboot so like was barely on it. Yeah but like she just like did her Crest White Strips integration. Yeah. She has a really cute family. She does have a cute family. And she doesn't get down in the mud and so

if she can do that good for her a lot of people can't can't play that role because then they'll get axed. I honestly am just shocked that Lauren Conrad like even publicly associated with someone from the hills. I feel like she's just Lauren Conrad, like, even publicly associated with someone from the Hills. I feel like she just, like, literally since it's been over has acted like it never happened. And she's had so much success. So she doesn't, like, need to go back and, like, do reboots and podcasts about the Hills. I just can't believe, like, she actually publicly put her name somewhere, like, with someone from the Hills.

Yeah. I just feel like she couldn't have been more distant from it. Yeah. But I appreciate it, you know? Me too. Okay. Next story. Haters be damned. She couldn't have been more distant from it. Yeah, but I appreciate it, you know? Me too. Okay, next story. Haters be damned, Ellen sees the highest premiere rating since 2016.

Of course. I mean, who wouldn't want to tune into this shit show? She's more interesting than ever. I know. But, you know, some people who don't want to watch her anymore, like, might make that known. But the show posted an overnight Nielsen household rating of 1.9, steady the overall ratings for the fall 2019 premiere but it ranked number one in a lucrative ad demo adults age 25 to 54 with a 0.9 rating and an increase from last year's 0.8 okay I have to be honest like I legit don't understand ratings for the life of me no me neither anytime I go and like seek out ratings like I'm curious like are people watching more Bravo or more E like I just try and

like find the information. Yeah, like is this show doing, I always want to know what the ratings of something are. And I feel like unless there's like an article telling me, I can't make sense of it. Right. Also, not only is it nonsensical, it's also nearly impossible to find the data

when it's like should be public. It is public information, but it's right, nearly impossible. So when Nielsen has a rating of 1.9 million how does that mean 1.9 million people watch it because could you just tell me how much people watch it I think so and if it was like 0.9 that would be 900,000 and then it was like 0.09 it would be like 90,000 yeah so I just I just want to know how many people watch things there needs to be like a website or an Instagram account yes please puts this together because I think that I want to know no I definitely want

to know and especially it's just so interesting with like cable really kind of being on the decline and so many digital shows like having such strong numbers like are there digital shows that actually do better than tv shows you know like that's what I want to know and digital numbers are so clear and so public and you can just see it when anyone's watching on YouTube, like the numbers are just right there. And I feel like almost intentionally cable data numbers are so misleading and confusing. Yeah, I feel that as well. So Mr. Nielsen.

Podcast numbers are so private. What's the word? Opaque. Yeah, that's really true. Podcast numbers are so private. What's the word? Opaque. Yeah, that's really true. It kind of reminds me of Tumblr, where literally nobody knew how many followers you had. So you could have the biggest Tumblr in the world, and literally nobody would know. What's the point?

And podcasts are the same way. It's like, yes, you could see if someone's on the charts, they obviously have a lot of numbers. But people are on the charts who literally have 5,000 listens and have 5 million listens. It's all about, it's a formula. Yeah, Kelsey was telling us about it. But it's safe to say like, we know what the biggest podcasts in the world are as opposed to Tumblr, right? You don't know. Of course. But I just feel like every influencer has a podcast and they make it seem like it's the biggest podcast in the world. And I would do, I mean, I do do the same because like, that's what building a brand and building

a business online is. But I would love to see some numbers. Like how many people actually listen to all these podcasts? Like I know how many people listen to mine. I know. And I know how many people listen to all the TNN shows. But like honestly, it kills me. I'm so curious. No, it's so curiosity inducing. Right.

Like there are actually like five people who have podcasts. Like I just want to know that these five, you know, I'm not going to say who they are, obviously. But like there's five. Are you talking about like our competitors? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like just random people that I follow on the internet who just like have podcasts and like make it seem like it's like...

Oh, oh. You know who I'm talking about. Now I know who you're talking about. So like I don't even want to know all the podcasts in the world. I just want to know like these five people like who I just like want to know. I wish like so badly I could just start guessing. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You can't, you can't.

But you know who it is. Yeah, I know one. Okay, next up, Teddy Mellencamp confirms Real Housewives of Beverly Hills exit. Okay, what the title should be, Teddy Mellencamp confirms Real Housewives of Beverly Hills exit in bizarrely passive-aggressive strange video. Bizarrely passive-aggressive sad yeah video like at first I was like cringe and then I was like my heart softened well so I actually felt a bunch of different ways about the video the first was obviously like it was just like really strong like it was just kind of bizarre um but two I actually had a lot of respect for her for actually admitting she was let go slash not renewed because

I feel like a lot of housewives in their time have been not renewed. And they always go on social media being like this journey. So I had respect for that. But I was blinded by the don't want to bore you. I appreciate and respect her attempt at like being sassy. Yeah. I just think it did. It fell a little short.

Yeah. No, it was like I feel like that video sums up her journey on theassy. Yeah. I just think it did, it fell a little short. Yeah. No, it was like, I feel like that video sums up her journey on the show. Right. It was like, coming off really strong,

right out of the gate. And then she talks about how like, she loved her experience and she did the coolest things and she's going to really miss the cast and crew. And then I was like,

oh, now I feel sad. Yeah. Because to be honest, like no matter how Teddy Mellencamp without house size like has a fabulous life like she's John Mellencamp's daughter she has a wonderful marriage and a wonderful wonderful family they have a ton of money she's really successful he's really successful so it's it's not that her life you know is gonna severely deteriorate without the show but the show no matter how rich and

famous you are or how many celebrities you're connected to, it is an amazing experience. Like these trips that they take on Beverly Hills like are beyond trips that most of the women take. Like it really is like a special experience and a really good opportunity. So towards the end of the video, I did feel like she's going to, she wasn't ready to go and she's like going to be missing out on, you know, all the fun and all the stuff coming up. I just can't recall it there's I don't really feel like there's another housewife departure I can compare this to where it was like leaked basically confirmed before the housewife or Bravo got to even mention anything yeah I don't

know someone in production like had it out for Teddy because the page six and Daily Mail articles were so oddly specific and really mean yeah and now that I think about it I actually I don't really think it's fair not that it's saying she didn't like that she didn't deserve to be fired yeah but I don't think it's fair to fire someone after a season where they're pregnant because she she can only do so much you know like I think I think back to like when Monique was pregnant um on Potomac and like she like, she kind of, she played an interesting role. Because instead of getting involved in the drama, she really became the voice of reason. So, like, she had cemented her place in that way.

But I don't know. There was only so much Teddy could have done. Like, one, she obviously can't drink. So she can't just, like, you know, see what happens. Like, drink and see what happens. Which I think some housewives do just to start drama. Two, like, you can't let your blood pressure, your stress level spike that much. So she really had to stay neutral and boring.

That's actually a really, really like interesting observation. My only rebuttal is that I know people said, like these Daily Mail articles said that she was fired for being boring. And I, in the past, maybe have found some of her content boring, but I didn't think at all. Actually, this season she was boring I think she was mean and she's not really friends with anyone but Kyle and neither of those things have to do with her being pregnant so I feel like she was fired more so for those reasons like she's really not a part of the group like yeah no and I'm not

saying she like that she shouldn't be fired because she was pregnant I'm just saying like it sets a bad tone you automatically are going to have a low like a not a low season but a quieter like a quieter calmer season it's not going to be a big season for you if you're pregnant because you have a lot going on and there's a million different reasons why you shouldn't be participating in certain things um so she didn't really get a chance to bounce back but maybe it was like last season this season was her you know right you never know what this might have been her redemption season you never know She didn't really get a chance to bounce back, but maybe it was like last season, this season was her chance. You know, like, you never know what kind of- This might have been her redemption season.

You never know what kind of conversations go on. No, but that's interesting. It does set, like, a weird tone and, like, not a good one. Yeah. Anyways, she'll be missed, you know? I wonder who will replace her. I mean, I feel like now they're down, too, with Sutton and Teddy. I mean, with Denise and Teddy, I feel like Sutton will be a full-time housewife,

and then they're only down one. I don't really think they need anyone else. I hope Garcelle stays, even though she's now so busy hosting The Real. But I actually think she will stay. Me too. And then they're only down one, and I think that that's fine. Yeah. I would like to see them bring someone else in, maybe even like a former housewife,

someone who doesn't need like a full reintroduction to the group honestly someone like kind of like Kathy Hilton who like we kind of know through so much about her like from Kyle and Kim and obviously her famous kids so I actually think it might be a good season for Kathy Hilton she was actually weirdly in my dream last night Kathy Hilton oh wow Ben like before bed was like Kathy Hilton's joining Housewives oh my god and I'm like you know who Kathy Hilton is that's like yeah um okay well next story Rolling Stone has released their 500 best albums of all time list this is a list that they've had and now they've re-released it to include newer albums oh that's so interesting um some albums that have now made the list that weren't on it

before include Taylor Swift's Red oh my god how was that not on it before and Adele's 21 because it came out before that album came out oh when did this original list come out I think it's something that they've always had it debuted in 2003 so they do have to update it sometimes and they've just updated so I'm going to go through the top albums a lot of them are not new albums okay um but I also just want to say like put it out there I really really appreciate how much Rolling Stone respects Taylor Swift like they are how much they respect Red yeah no but they are always putting her on these lists and I think a lot of like music like snobs would be like Taylor Swift but Rolling Stone really leans into it, and they appreciate, like, the true talent and the artistry and the songwriting and the music making.

And I just wanted to put it out there that, as a Swifty, I really appreciate Rolling Stone, like, being cool. Yeah. And I think this list is interesting if you're ever looking to get into a good album. Like, I've, you know. I'm actually now having deja vu from the old studio where we spoke about this once. Yeah. I think it's an interesting list.

So the number one greatest album of all time according to a Rolling Stone is Marvin Gaye What's Going On. Okay. Number two The Beach Boys Pet Sounds. Boring. Number three Joni Mitchell Blue. Number four Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life. I couldn't agree more actually. We actually went to the Songs in the Key of Life tour at Madison Square Garden like when we were in high school and was phenomenal. It was phenomenal. Number five The Beatles Abbey Road. Sure. Number six Nirvana Nevermind with the little baby and the dollar on the cover. Number seven Fleetwood Mac Rumors. Sunder only happened when it was raining. Number eight Prince and the revolution purple rain purple rain that was so good thank you oh my god

i'm like shook thank you i'm flustered number nine bob dylan blood on the tracks okay number 10 lauren hill the miseducation of lauren hill you know speaking of lauren hill i need to watch this or act like i've just been i have been having an itch for it recently and I think like this weekend is my time it's a content upper for sure it is such and honestly the first is just as good as the second yeah and there's very few like sequels like that number 11 the Beatles revolver 12 Michael Jackson thriller 13 Aretha Franklin I never loved a man the way I love you 14 the Rolling Stones exile on Main Street 15 public enemy it takes a nation I've literally never heard of that. Number 16, The Clash, London Calling. Okay, like tell me when like a contemporary album.

Number 17, Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Wow, that's an honor. That is an honor. It's a great album. All right, go down the list in order now, just of contemporary albums. Okay. But they don't organize it that way, but I'll try and like skip over. Number 19, Kendrick Lamar, To Pimp a Butterfly.

I agree. 20, Radiohead, Kid A. 21, Bruce Springsteen, Born to Run. Not contemporary, but something you've heard of. Yeah. 22, Notorious B.I.G., Ready to Die. 22 Notorious B.I.G. Ready to Die um next one that you might have heard of or that you enjoyed oh 20 32 Beyonce Lemonade oh I agree 33 Amy Winehouse Back to Black I definitely agree this must be a really hard list to put together this is a hard job because it's

like I haven't even listened to all the albums in the world but like out of my favorite albums how would I I couldn't even imagine. I feel like when an album comes out Rolling Stone has like a database and they give it like a score based on different categories and then when they put this together it's just like who has the highest score. Yeah that's a good point. That's just how I assume it. I don't know how people could do this any other way 50 jay-z the blueprint so where's red i mean it's 99 okay that's not bad no that's pretty good okay good for her yeah i just think it is interesting and 21 by adele was added to the list as well yes i mean where's 25 well what was on 21 that's not one under the bridge that Rolling in the deep. Rolling in the deep. We could have had it all. Man, you were just on key today. Rolling in the deep. Okay, a little flat. You had my heart and soul in your hands and you played it. Wow. To the beat. Okay.

We'll just cut that part out. Okay. Fifth and final story leading us into our TV recap of Selling Sunset. It's been like just literally spilling out of me. But this is a story in its own right that will naturally segue into Selling Sunset recap. Christina Ann Stead and husband Ant. You're like, who are these people? Oh, no they are El

Musa Christina El Musa and her new husband that's not Tarek split after less than two years of marriage I mean Tarek and Christina just time after time have proved to be like the messiest celebrities alive I mean at first it was the whole saga in the mountains with the gun and that was really scary and that's really where like it wasn't funny anymore you know then they got divorced then they both um fell into new relationships she moved on really quickly and not only found a new boyfriend really quickly but got married really quickly yes now they're getting divorced heather is still with tarik it's just it's honestly too much for me as a viewer and i actually used to really like their show when they were married i mean i never thought they had a good marriage and you could tell that they totally hated each other but it was a good tv show because they used married. I mean, I never thought they had a good marriage. And you could tell that they totally hated each other.

But it was a good TV show because they used to flip houses, like, for really cheap. And they had, like, literally the shittiest style. It was, like, interesting to watch. But this is just, like, I don't know. They have three kids together. And I just, I don't know. It's really not a good situation. Yeah.

They said, Ant and I have made a difficult decision to separate. Ant? Auntie. Aunt? Is it? It's Aunt Sneetches. situation yeah they said aunt and i have made a difficult decision to separate aunt aunt aunt is it it's on to snitches okay on snitches and i have made a difficult decision to separate we are grateful for each other and as always our children will remain our priority we appreciate your support i'm getting choked up and ask for privacy for us and our family as we navigate the future. This is like a real like stain on- It's so crazy how much Heather looks like Christina and how much Ant, just to be honest, looks like Tarek. Okay, so let's-

And also Ari Leindyke. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Let's dive into Selling Sunset just with this Heather situation. So I didn't know who so in the i didn't know who heather was i didn't know that she ended up being tarik's girlfriend but in the first season like she looked like someone so familiar and then in the second season when they showed that tmz article that she was dating tarik el moussa like my jaw hit the floor like so many pieces were just like immediately put together in my brain and i was like oh my god this is epic yeah claudia i was

a few episodes ahead of claudia and i called her and i'm like you need to make it to season two episode one first 10 minutes first 10 minutes call me yeah and i'm so glad that it didn't disappoint because i was worried i was gonna hype it up too much for you i'm honestly gonna go through our text messages and i just want to see what we spoke about okay but um while we're on the subject of heather like i can't okay um so the first thing I texted you was Chrishell was Andy Dorfman because I felt so strongly about that obviously the Chrishell Hartley Justin Hartley of it all was like a huge pull for her now we know he like dumped her via text message yeah I don't know in the third season if it was pre-divorce or post-divorce I'm hoping it was post-divorce

because I think it was post-divorce and I think that we know that he dumped her via text message because the timeline's starting adding up. I think she says that on season three. Got it, got it, got it. That's what I'm thinking. But I don't know and I don't want to know. And if I'm wrong, we'll correct it tomorrow or the next day. So in terms of like the big, I would say,

divide within the show and just the fans is like Chrishell versus Christine. Chrishell, yes. Because there are two types of people in this world. I couldn't agree more, and I feel like, in the beginning, Chrishell was, like, weenie, and, like, everyone in the audience, like, was not really into her, and I think by the second season, a lot of people feel like she got her voice back, and, like, her power back, and I actually couldn't agree with that less. I know that some may see Christine as, like, a little bit of a bulldog, like, very direct, kind of mean, a little bit bitchy. But I love someone who can own their bitchiness.

And Christina is really not afraid to apologize, which I thought she actually might be. Yeah, like she's very direct and very can be mean. But the apology that she gave Chrishell season two episode one at the $44 million house was so genuine. And like she really just fucking fell on her sword. And that's not what I expected from her. I thought was just gonna try and like patch it up and I feel like the fact that Chrishell couldn't see that that was genuine or like she was just like holding on to this grudge because she felt like she had to yeah where it's like you know I actually thought season one the

two of them had a really nice scene when they were at the bar and they got drinks talking about high school talking about high school and they were both like had tears in their eyes and they and they hugged and I and I thought that that Talking about high school. Talking about high school. And they were both like had tears in their eyes and they hugged. And I thought that that was like the bedrock for actually a good friendship, even if they're not going to be the best of friends, like just some mutual respect. So when like things went so sideways

and Chrishell was like, Christine never liked me and never wanted to be my friend. I'm like, that's not really true. I agree a hundred percent. And while Christine was definitely wrong at the pool party, she totally blew it out of proportion. I could see her just like really wanting to defend her friend, defend her friend Mary. And then also feeling like blindsided when she's out here defending her friend Mary and Mary

gets up and hugs Chrishell. Like it makes now Christine look like an asshole. Yeah. And she also said like, I was drinking, I was intense. She tried to call Chrishell that night and apologize like, okay, so she didn't handle herself so perfectly in the moment, but like she tried to call Chrishell that night and apologize like okay so she didn't handle herself so perfectly in the moment but like she tried to make it right and Chrishell just like refuses just like loves to be the victim yes 100% and so in terms of Chrishell um I'm not surprised like so many of the fans love her because I feel like she's super sweet and she's super cute no actually that's not at all what I was gonna say I'm not surprised that so many people like her she's just a very specific type of girl and I feel like if I was in college and like she was in my sorority, like I would stay so far away from her.

She gives me just like this weak vibe. Like she is, she's weak. Like, and, and honestly, in terms of her job, I feel like she's so unprofessional almost all the time. Like she's like giddy and like jumpy and like be professional. Like you're in a room with business people and she's just like jumping around and like, I don't know. Everything about her gives me like an immature vibe when it comes to her work and when it comes to her friendships as well

very interesting I don't know I feel like Chrishell like when she walked in the first day with like her dog treats and her big smile like I feel like she's a really nice sweet person um she definitely like plays the victim because I think that's where she feels comfortable but aside from that like I think she think she's probably a really nice girl. And maybe in season two and a half and three, like, she does become stronger. Well, to be honest, in the first season, I actually agreed with what Christine and Davina were saying, because she was acting one way in front of the girls.

But, like, in her commentary, she was, like, really bitchy. And I'm like, honestly, it was, like, funny and I liked it. But, like, she was, in a lot of ways, two-faced ways two-faced like she was like this innocent little kitty cat in the office and then she would say like crazy like things in her commentary it's not even like she's saying crazy things what I've noticed about her is that whenever there's a group like there's a group she's always the one to like bring up right like let's talk about someone Mary and Romaine yeah Mary and Romaine when she was in uh when she like had a glass of wine with Mary in the office afterwards like she brought up Christine like she's always like she says she's asking questions but she's always asking like leading goading questions

wanting the other person to say something bad and that's exactly what she did with Davina when you look back on it it's like she was asking these leading questions. Are they getting a prenup? Because she wants like someone else to say that to talk shit. That's what Dabina was saying. She was like, yeah, you're asking questions, but you're asking them from like a negative place. Yeah, no, you're asking them with judgment. Yeah. Also, um, Chrishell completely lost me 100% when she ruined Maya's baby announcement.

Like the fact that Maya didn't get mad at her. Maya's not like involved in the drama. I actually love Maya, but she's really stays above the fray. Um, the fact that she didn't get mad at her Maya's not like involved in the drama I actually love Maya but she's really stays above the fray um the fact that she didn't get more mad at Chrishell like I actually wanted to like shake Chrishell in that scene like so crazy unacceptable especially that's what I mean she's just that type of girl and I literally would never be friends with someone like that yeah because to be the person when you barely know this person to be the person in the room with the pregnancy test is, like, such an honor. And I felt like when I first saw that scene, I was like, wow,

Chrishell is just, like, this rock. She's a supportive friend, and she's going to be there for you. She's going to cheer you on. Or, you know, she might be there for a hug if it doesn't go the way that you want it to. And I was happy she was there for Maya. Yeah, and I was like, she's just probably a very good friend and, like, a very supportive person. And the fact that, like like she wouldn't even think twice

before she like she knew Maya told her on a few different occasions like she's very cautious and the fact that it just slipped out was like so crazy unacceptable in my opinion she lost me for good yeah um and then in terms of Davina I feel like after the third season like now in real time Davina's kind of become like this huge villain at the present moment I don't hate her that much honestly when her and Chrishell were like really butting heads in the office talking about Burning Man and then Davina was like well how much was your dress like that was everything I'm not sure what like Chrishell was trying to say like about Burning Man it did come off like really condescending like you went to a festival and we did charity like it was obnoxious it's so obnoxious because again I thought Chrishell in

that moment was being like so open and and she was sharing her story with at the when they were doing the charity work and everyone sort of like it really brought everyone together and it was a really beautiful moment and then to go and use that moment to like sort of shame Davina into not like because she wasn't there it's like that's not what charity is about kind-hearted yeah like that is the worst kind like to use a good deed that right you have done against someone else like and then to go and say like how much was your ticket that could have how much let's well these houses that were selling yeah like but by the way that is the two-facedness I feel like Christine and Davina were referring to. And I saw it.

I did even before they pointed it out. I thought she was really two different people on the couch in the commentary than she was with the other girls. And I think after the first season, she immediately stopped doing that because that was what really they were talking about. And I don't feel like she does that anymore. But I do see why Davina and Christine like didn't like her in the beginning if I was in that office I 100% would not have liked Chrishell one because

she's just not my type of girl I find her like I can't use another word she's just like weak like in every sense of the word and she is two-faced yeah and I know we are alone in this because people hate Davina they don't like Christine but they like she has a lot to offer besides like the actual storyline I'm just so obsessed with everything about her and like her personality her commentary and the fact that like so there's also two types of people in this world everyone goes on season one of their reality show and you know it's who they are and then talks a big game in the interviews yeah but then you have to answer for those things if there's a reunion or season two or on social media. And then most people stop doing that because they don't want to have to answer for those things.

Chrishell is one of those people who might have these, her thoughts haven't changed, but she's not going to share them and to put herself in some sort of villainous position. Whereas Christine just is who she is and is going to say what she thinks. position whereas Christine just is who she is and is going to say what she thinks now I want to talk about Mary and Romaine because not only do I not understand their relationship whatsoever I don't think they understand their relationship they have such a hard time communicating and their scenes are so boring and I literally scold like fast forward through them all the time and when they got engaged I'm like oh that's actually kind of sweet and then she comes into the office and it's moist tonight and I'm really were Davina I was Davina but you want to know why because up until that moment Mary talked a big game about how successful she was and like all this stuff and this life and this life

and this life and he is like this world-renowned pastry chef and I just feel like there's absolutely nothing wrong with the Moissanite ring whatsoever but like putting up the front at first was what was really deceptive. Right and then when she was like showing every like after the office when she told him it's moissanite she was like going to different places and showing her ring it's like do you always have to say that it's moissanite oh my god just shut up honestly it looked real like just let everyone think that it was so stunning just let everyone think it yeah i just don't like mary at all honestly romaine reminds me a lot of roman from real housewives of miami um they look alike and both of their names are roman romaine reminds me a lot of roman from real housewives of miami um they look alike and both of their names are roman romaine and like they're both in dysfunctional relationships yeah um i just

i don't like mary at all and i don't get why she's the favorite um she actually is a really good real estate agent um obviously her relationship with jason has something to do with it i'm also curious and also like the relationship with jason is is weird is weird and it's not appropriate like given that she's engaged to someone else also it's like a weird workplace relationship but it seems like that's just the norm you know heather keeps saying she's like inviting herself to live with jason like was that i knew it was that brett oh can't tell them apart they look like bowling balls um but who is i feel like jason is the boss of brett like they're not partners that was the vibe that i was getting I feel like Jason is the boss of Brett.

Like they're not partners. That was the vibe that I was getting. No, I feel like one of them, I feel like Jason's in charge of the agents and Brett like must do something else in the office. You know, because they're always taking their shit to Jason. Yeah, right, right. And they like walk past Brett. Like he's not sitting right there. Maybe Brett is like head of development or something like where he's not interfacing with the agents all the time. Yeah. I mean, the real estate part of it was actually

really interesting. And you and I were discussing on text about how like I literally, we always talk about how living in LA would be fabulous, but I'm like shocked at these $5 million houses. They're like not that big and not that like, they're nice on the inside, but they're tiny. They don't have yards. You have to risk your life driving up a hill to get there. No, I'm really not into LA real estate is what I've learned. There has been two houses that I've absolutely adored. They were both Mary's listings. One, the one she sold to that girl, Emily, who was like the most stunning person I've ever seen. She was so stunning.

And that house, and that's where she offered. Oh, and that's- No, the other house, the Doheny house is where the wedding is going to be now. With the grass on the front. Yeah, but that's not the Emily house. Oh, right, right, right. The Emily house is where the reading nook to be with the grass on the front yeah but that's not the emily house oh right the emily house is where the reading nook yeah yeah yeah okay wait first of all about mary just one second again she's so successful so successful she's the best agent she gets all the listings why can't she find a wedding venue it's not like she lives remotely

like in idaho she lives in la with hotels and venues christine found a place she went to eric buterbauer's uh floral shop for her engagement party why couldn't mary find a venue but so that's what i'm saying about mary there's who has their family who has a wedding date without a venue that's not a thing people book flights without an invitation or anything yeah that is so crazy but to like be like my wedding's in six weeks but there is no wedding you just like put a date on a calendar and yeah i'm gonna get married on this day that's what i'm like about mary 60 people are gonna come her life is a little bit of a front because I don't know it's one thing okay you can't find a band but like they're all booked how do you have a wedding you don't really have a wedding

day without a wedding venue no you you don't at all I'm not just like begging people for favors like no it's so strange I really thought that they were gonna wind up just getting married to Jason's and I'm like this is so weird okay but back to um those two houses I agree the Johini house is sickening the Emily house is sickening those were my two favorites I'm like, this is so dysfunctional. Okay, but back to those two houses. I agree. The Johanny house is sickening. The Emily house is sickening. Those were my two favorites. I'm learning some stuff about like my taste in real estate. And I also think that if we lived in LA,

I would 100% live in the Valley. I don't like the hills, the Hollywood Hills. I think the houses are too close to each other. And also we went to a party once in the Hollywood Hills. I think that's the only time I've ever been there. And by the time we got there, I was going to throw up like I'm actually just like I can't live on a really high floor in York City I don't think I could live up in the hills so not only were we literally about to vomit on the way there first it was so windy we had had like a drink at

dinner it was just like not conducive once we got there it was so packed that literally in the living room had these houses are built like on stilts on hills the floor was shaking like yeah there were far too many people in this house it was a fabulous celeb sparkled party but it was just not conducive in the hills i i don't know if i would live in the valley because they say it's much hotter and the traffic's terrible like i would have to live in a compound in beverly hills oh yeah beverly hills like I just think like not all LA real estate is like this but they happen to specify on Sunset Hollywood Hills and that's what the houses are I would never live there yeah no I I don't think that I could live there either yes of course I would love to live in Beverly Hills but right now they're just showing us homes in the valley and Sunset but that Beverly Hills compound the 80 million dollar Davina listing

was the most sickening and I think it was Christine who said this because she's fucking brilliant she was like millionaires have views billionaires have compounds and I was like yeah because that big house the 44 million dollar house I'm like I need to know who I hope one of them has to sell it because like oh well by the way since the show has come out there's been all these things like most of the listings aren't real most of the scenarios aren't real no I don't want to know that that's also like million dollar listing did Emily not buy that house I don't know I don't want to know because I like to live but you have to assume that a lot of it is orchestrated reading nook right now having a coffee I don't think so no I don't I can't I refuse I'm believing what I'm seeing okay okay anyways I really hope that

44 million dollar house like is part of the storyline and that one of them sells it because whoever does is going to be like the big man on campus um and then the second season there was a lot to unpack so far larsa pippen obviously it was a fabulous just moment i really hope she bought that house i was talking her instagram last night i don't think she did i don't know the picture that you sent me like it could have been the house but the tv wasn't behind the kitchen it was on the side i don't know maybe she moved it but it was really funny that that agent was like her son is like looking for a basketball court and then they get to the house and like and chrishell's like and the basketball court and lars was like oh that's cool yeah i feel like that's literally how like celebrity works it's like all this misinformation by people's people like being swapped around um but what was so crazy is when

sorry when chrishell was like showing that house at first, I was like, oh damn, this is the perfect house for that couple that Christine showed that swanky bachelor, $10 million bachelor pad last season. And then I was so glad that she brought them to this house. Yeah. It's interesting how it works, like with them all working together. But season two, when Christine just like comes out of her jet with her new fiance, her rich tech fiance and her new life, like she leveled up to like another planet. And I, as a Christine, you know, supporter was like a living for it. You guys like, we have absolutely no choice but to stand. And, and I don't understand.

I don't want to understand anyone who like didn't see that and was like, jaw was on the floor. Like I officially am team Christine ride or die. I'm getting to a point where I don't even care if she's going to do so, so far to me me everything she does is like justifiable justifiable I understand I think she's like on point but I'm getting to a point like you know the Monique Samuel's point where I don't even care I I don't care what she's gonna do like I'm gonna have her back um did you see in real time most recently Christine is not only on the cover of Maxim magazine looking like a fucking fiery snack she also got married yes and she wore a black wedding dress yes and I saw on Netflix when I was looking through the

episodes like I think the end of season three the finale is her wedding oh which is great oh my god amazing I mean literally the pictures I saw on Instagram it was not my taste but incredible like the flowers it was literally like a multi-million dollar wedding. Yeah. No, I'm so excited. Oh, I hope we see it. Yeah. I hope I'm really, I'm just really excited. I feel like all the good stuff, like now we've gotten to know everyone. Some people, unfortunately, like are wasting our time. I love Amanza, by the way. I like really, really respect her. And like, I just want things to work out for her so she can provide for her family. I totally agree. But now like they're turning, like there's two squads is

what I've realized and it's Christine Davina and Heather no not Christine and Davina Christine Davina Christine sorry that I get Christine Chrishell is so confusing Christine Davina and Heather because Heather has nowhere else to go and also like I thought Christine like was not about Heather I'm not about Heather versus Mary Chrishell and Amanza and I just need to swap Amanza and Heather I agree and the Amanza versus Heather thing like Heather was fucking mean Heather was so wrong and when she's like mind your business and it's like Amanza if you want people to mind your business stop talking about your public information in the office you didn't mind me my not minding my business when I was

agreeing with you right but now I'm gonna say something that you don't want to hear like she's so fucking defensive about her relationship like jason or brett will just say like oh how's tarik and she's like what'd you say she's so crazy she's so crazy also i can't believe and her and tarik are still together yeah and i love that she loves her stepkids but like her comparing what she's doing with Maya Maya was like it's not the same no it's oh Maya is amazing and she's neutral yep and I really really like her but also at one point she was like I think when she was talking to Jason in his apartment when she was trying to like move in oh and what was that begging to move in not okay it's one thing to make a joke but literally no she said it like five or six times it was so weird

and she this is my room and then she was like talking about her relationship she's okay it's one thing to make a joke but literally no she said it like five or six times it was so weird and she this is my room and then she was like talking about her relationship she's like it's a lot you know i'm kind of like a stepmom and she's like i'm mom and i'm like how do you think christina feels seeing that who like birthed these children you've been around for three weeks yeah chill and you call yourself mom chill um okay so all in all i really enjoy the show i'm gonna i don't want my opinion to change and i know i can't state this enough times like don't come for us for our opinion we are who we are and i'm just when when you wonder how someone can like christine versus chrishell just remember there are two types of girls in this world, Christines and Chrishells. Which one do you want to be? Yeah.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay, and now our final segment is Dear Toasters. Our advice segment, if you ever want to write in, the email is deartoasters at gmail.com. We always keep it anonymous, and we will read your query on air,

and then we will do our best to give you advice. So let's dive right in. The first one, Jackson Claude. My best friend starting a guy. Oh my God, sorry. My best friend started dating a guy, Jake, in college who was always the life of the party. He's hilarious, but has always been very touchy feely with other girls and guys. All of our friends just thought he was a little different until a few weeks ago.

While hanging out with a bunch of friends, Jake proceeded to get very drunk and his true colors showed. He started hitting on my fiance and asked him to show him his weenie of course my fiance said hell no dude and walked away he did this to multiple guys at the party the sad thing is that my friend thinks that they're gonna that she and jake are gonna get married and she's expecting a ring soon how do i tell her that jake is definitely gay i don't know if jake is necessarily gay yeah boys like do weird things like in locker rooms and shit and show me your weenie okay definitely sounds a little gay but I don't know I think that

if Jake was really in the closet he probably wouldn't be publicly asking to see someone's penis yeah I think I don't think you need to tell your friend that her boyfriend's definitely gay. That's not on you to decide. And there's also nothing definite. I think you tell your friend that your boyfriend asked to see your boyfriend's weenie. And let her decide if it's something she's comfortable with. Yeah, because if someone said that to me about Ben,

I would raise an eyebrow. Yeah, no, I would definitely ask some questions. Yeah, like, why did you want to see the weenie? Yeah. Why did you call it a weenie? Because that's even weirder. And we need to talk. Yeah, like, if you had seen the weenie, like, were you going to measure, you know?

Put some mustard on it? Like, what? Like, sword fight? I am honestly most, the most concerning thing here is not that Jake wanted to see someone's penis, it's that it's a grown man called it a weenie. Yeah. Because that's a hot dog called it a weenie. Yeah. Because that's a hot dog. I think this is just good advice, Perry.

But what you need to do in this situation is just relay only the information that you know for certain. Right. Like, don't put your personal spin on it. Yeah. Which is what you saw and what you heard. Yeah. Not what you think. It's weird.

But sometimes people are just weird. Yeah. It's not always something, you know? Yeah. And also, like, this guy who says it's not always something you know yeah and also like this guy you say it's the life of the party like maybe parties are changing and now he's showing everyone our wieners honestly like he's the type of guy who would get married and like literally go to swingers parties like and just show everyone his weenie yeah but like i don't know i just feel

like when you're the life of the party like let's think about jake for a second there's a lot of pressure to constantly be the life of the party and like you can't do the same trick you did in last party yeah no you're getting stale it's like that episode of sex in the city where that pregnant woman who used to be like the life of the party and like take her top off everywhere she's pregnant now and so she can't do that but she like really wants to be the life of the party so she does it anyway like that's jake oh my god that oh i thought you were gonna say that also that woman who falls out the window yeah that's gonna be jake that's like such a tragic episode um but yeah think maybe think about where jake's gonna be jake that's like such a tragic episode um but

yeah think maybe think about where jake's coming from think about him yeah like parties are changing and you gotta switch it up and it's it's really like a constant burden to like always be expected to like lift the party up and maybe you need to do some self-reflection and be like why does he feel like he always needs to pump up the party like do are we boring right right that's on you actually and your fiance. So you guys aren't fun. No, okay. Just tell her what you heard.

And just, like, don't put your personal spin on it. Just, like, drop off the information like an Amazon box and then be gone like a UPS man, okay? Yeah. All right, dear toasters. What started out as an innocent night of drinking at a friend's party turned into an absolute mess. Parts of the night are spotty. My friend Vicky and I remember the most disturbing part so well and I'm not sure if anyone else involved does. Vicky, myself, and two men whom

we've known our entire lives, let's call them Basil and Oregano, went up to our friend's bedroom and performed a strip tease. At the time it sounded like a good idea and in the moment everyone was into it. One thing led to another and we all woke up in the same room we found basil passed out completely naked on a wicker bench and oregano i can't deal with the names and oregano passed out sitting up wearing nothing but a sailor's cap and socks at this point vicky and i are freaking out and finding a way to get out of the room without waking them up we eventually escaped and made it home safely the dreaded day came when we had to face basil and oregano in person for the first time since the incident now these people are all just friends like it's no one's boyfriend no they just like had a weird like they did weird things when they were drunk and like now they have to pay the price

okay okay the dreaded day came when we had to face basil and oregano in person for the first time since the incident neither of them acted like anything happened and it seems like they don't remember do we pretend we don't remember either and go on with our friendships as if we didn't see each other naked do we address it with the boys to see if they remember or never mention it again please help never mention it again they're obviously not mentioning it because either they don't want to or they don't remember it so you've gotten it now just acknowledge it and accept it yeah I wouldn't like go and mention it again the only way that you could if you wanted to is like the next time you guys are drunk. Maybe not at that level drunk.

But like, you know, if you're drunk again and they're feeling more comfortable or maybe things are going that way again. Just be like, remember that time. Right. See if they remember, first of all. And you'll have more bravery like in you. And so will they. Yeah. So will they.

But just to cold call them. I mean, it's I guess like friends do weird things when they're drunk with their friends but I don't know it's something to be embarrassed about no but like you know that feeling of course shame shame of course I totally understand and you know what just ignore it like they're ignoring it so like why are we even talking about it there's no worse feeling in the world than shame that post drunk night shame and you know what thankfully for quarantine i really haven't had it yeah but it is uh it's enough to make me sober for the rest of my life like it really is awful feeling it's an awful

feeling shame but it doesn't feel like she feels shame like no she just she feels awkward and like doesn't want to talk about it which i understand and it seems like they don't either because they haven't brought it up yeah but definitely down in the room that's what i want to know no one knows that's actually maybe if you talk to them maybe they know yeah it sounds like she could fact sounds like she said she remembers this incident specifically the night is blurry but like she remembers the moment yeah i don't know i think just if you guys are drinking together like with just the four of you again sometime see feel it out um but otherwise just be glad that no one's mentioning right and just like don't make it weird yeah um so those are

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