The Toast - S3 Ep165: Ronah Stans: Tuesday, October 13th, 2020

Episode Date: October 13, 2020

Jonah Hill and Fiance Gianna Santos Call Off Their Engagement of Just Over a Year (PEOPLE) Dominic West and wife insist marriage 'is strong' after he's spotted with Lily James (Page Six) Bethenny Frankel splits from boyfriend Paul Bernon after two years together (Page Six) Kelly Clarkson Says the 'Past Few Months Have Been Horribly Sad' During Divorce: 'It Is the Worst' (PEOPLE) Patricia Field shares the stories behind her 'Emily in Paris' outfits (Page Six Style) Mad Men Recap The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoproblems) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoastSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Tuesday. It's a beautiful day. Hey, Claude. How are you doing? You know what? I have been better. I had, you know, somewhat of a difficult evening. Yes. I would say around 11 o'clock, I downloaded a new game on my phone. It's a billiards game where you play with strangers, like, from around the world. And it's fabulous, and it really got to me. I was up until five in the morning, five in the morning playing this game. I swear my life. I want to feel bad for you. And I was ready to hear about your rough night and

share some sympathy. Yes. But that's ridiculous. Billiards. No, I know. It was a very addicting game i could not sleep i had watched so much mad men all day like my head was in 1960 new york you know like it was really hard for me to shake like all of the media that i had been processing over the last few hours and the billiards was a welcomed relief it was it's such a fabulous game i'm like addicted to games on my phone and this one is probably the worst I've ever been addicted. I'm still addicted to balls too with a Z. If you know, you know. That's really bad. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, no, it's like to watch TV all day and then be up till 5am playing a game like that's really bad in the vein of what we spoke about

yesterday. Like the addiction to technology. It's concerning concerning it's definitely worse when you and I are podcasting from home because it just kind of feels like a mini vacation because even though we have to work it's like I don't have to do my hair and makeup I don't have to go to the art studio like it feels very relaxed I'm like I can go to bed whenever I want and I really can't yeah I don't know for me it doesn't feel that way like I feel like I wake up earlier when we do it from home because we want to get it out I don't know I just the only difference is that I don't know. For me, it doesn't feel that way. Like, I feel like I wake up earlier when we do it from home because we want to get it out. I don't know. I just, the only difference is that we don't put on makeup. But these days I come home and take off my makeup. So it's beautiful claudia that's right it ain't pretty it's beautiful um speaking of absolute beauty and something that might be the thing to turn your day around how's theo he's wonderful he thanks you for asking and he um had a very busy morning it's raining here in New York which is a huge disturbance for us dog owners it just makes our life so hard so Theo got a really quick bath this

morning it's been a wild morning here at the Oshry Salford household wow that's a busy morning I can't wait to hear about how the rain has impacted Magnolia's day yeah on snitch's Instagram story. Speaking of the snitch, The Bachelorette comes back tonight. Wow. Oh, wow. Oh, um, wow. Whoa. I want to say like, it feels like it just snuck up on us, but it's literally been eight months since Bachelor content. No, I'm like, I knew it was this week, but the fact that it's today and I'm eventually going to have to like take my TV and put it back on cable and watch The Bachelorette. That's hard. I mean, wow, you just really sprung that on me. I just woke up, Jackie. Come on, relax.

I know. You have to prepare yourself. And that's only half the announcement, if you're ready for the other half of it. Oh, no. What's the other half? The other half is that since The Bachelorette is coming back tonight, The Snatchler is coming back on Thursday, which for us big Snatchleritis fans is so exciting. That's probably the only good thing about The Bachelorette coming back. I'm feeling very conflicted, as I always do at the beginning of a Bachelor season, because I either am going to stick with it or not stick with it at all. And the Tayshia on the horizon is making me want to stick with it.

And I just feel like a lot of people, given the fact that we're still somewhat living a weird version of life, I think a lot of people will be tuning in and they don't want to have FOMO. It's just such a heavy lift on my part every week, two hours a week. And then recapping it here, making the memes, it's so much work. Yeah, but you know what? so much work. Yeah. But you know what? I actually, I look forward to a welcome distraction and maybe like some content that will just unite us over like a shared hatred of someone or love of someone. And I actually, I'm going to be watching it and I look forward. I, well, that's a big statement, but I'm, I'm not dreading it as much as you. Oh no no, I'm like totally dreading it. I had a question for you about, what was my question? It was about, oh, is it a story today about Luke P. breaking his bachelor contract and owing $100,000 to ABC?

No, but it could be. No, well, now that we're talking about it, let's just bring that up. I think that's crazy. I feel like ABC talks hypothetically about their you know, their contracts and like people and being in breach all the time. But this is the first time I've actually heard of someone legitimately being in breach and having to pay. Yeah. Um, so now that we're here, we can talk about it. He was ordered to pay a hundred thousand dollars to bachelorette producers because of him speaking out. I think it was the reality Steve podcast that is what did him in and I mean I I I don't know how I feel about it I have to read the whole like uh report but it feels like he's

being singled out considering everyone goes on podcasts and talks smack 100% and I know that there are people who go on podcasts and say things and they get like a little slap on the wrist from producers but I've never heard of anyone actually being like fully prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And that $100,000 is a lot of money that obviously ABC doesn't need and Luke P probably does. I agree. It definitely feels like he's being singled out because that's crazy. We've heard about this myth of bachelor contracts and things they can say, can't say, but they're always like alluding to shit on podcasts and on social media. And everyone's really like flexible and willy nilly with the pot with the contract.

So I find this really shocking. Yeah. Also, I didn't listen to Luke Pease, you know, spilling the tea, but so I don't know what he said, but I feel like other contestants, especially most recently Colton, they've said like so much more damning things about the process. But I don't know what he said. But I mean, Colton was very meticulous in doing it when he was out of his contract.

Like that's when his book came out and all that stuff. And he was like very, he laid very low for a while before his contract was up. And then when it wasn't, he released that whole book. So I'm sure it has something. Like, the timing is everything. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, I mean, this is crazy.

And you know who suffers here? Luke? The podcasters. Yes, because the interviews are just getting thinner and thinner. Yes. That's funny. Of course, it always comes back to the hardworking podcaster. Yeah, of course.

And we're just constantly getting slammed. But we make do. We do. We really do. We do-do-do. We do-do. Did you say do-do? Do-do.

No, I said do-do-do-do-theodora. Do-do-do-do-theodora. Do-do-do-do-theodora. Do, do, do, do, Theodora. Do, do, do, do, Theodora. Do, do, do, do, Theodora. Oh, gosh. You and I keep missing each other because we're on FaceTime, you guys. If, when we're synced up sounding, it's going to sound bad on the podcast. Really? I don't think so.

That was just a mess. Let's try it one more time. Yeah. Three, two, one. Three, two, one. Do, do, do. Why'd you slow, why'd you slow down? You waited a second on the face time

you did no i didn't one more time i didn't three two one what'd you do that for you we did it by the way in my airpods you and i are singing at the same time so you know what we need to move on until i said an oh and then you did an awesome oh literally for the first two do to do's you and i were not in my airpods even remotely close together and then when i sang okay whatever we're but we're boring people um let's just dive right in okay are you ready for the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast? And I am, but I just, I would, I'm feeling sick to my stomach. I'm just disgusted. And it's because like, it would be really wrong of me to keep this, this a secret for much longer. Today's episode is brought to you by probably one of the most

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before we get into the fast five stories i want want to let you know that most of them are relationship news, and it's not looking good, you guys. First up, Jonah Hill and fiancé Gianna Santos call off their engagement of just over a year, sparking rumors that Justice for Ruthie will be served. Yes, I have seen the reports kind of predicting, like different business analysts analysts that Justice for Ruthie might be on the horizon. And that made me really, really excited. And if you're new here, we have to give you some background. I got so many DMs like of the Us Weekly, like they broke up Justice for Ruthie because it was such a crazy turn of events. And I feel like it really was probably the last good thing that ever happened in our Facebook group. No, it was like one of the first.

Oh, no. The first bad thing. The first bad thing that happened in our Facebook groups. Yes. So there once was a girl named Ruthie, and she was a lovely, beautiful young gal, fun loving, living in New York. And she had ran into Jonah Hill on the street. And they didn't say anything to each other, but she couldn't believe that she saw him.

And she actually had a really inspired idea to DM him him and be like i think i just saw you on bleaker street and you know she's so cute and exciting and i'm sure her picture was very inviting that jonah hill not only responded but responded not on like a fan level but on an intimate like friendship relationship level and they were like dming and like maybe gonna go out and ruthie because she's a smart girl with good taste, leaned on her toasters and her favorite Facebook group to help her. It's hard to talk to a celebrity. It's hard to talk to a boy in general. But to a celebrity, there's a lot of pressure, especially in this weird DM format. So she ran to the toasters looking for guidance. And at first, of course, the normal people, the toasters, were so helpful and welcoming and inviting and secretive because she doesn't want

to look like she's being thirsty and she wasn't being thirsty she just needed help in a time of dire crisis okay and of course all good things must come to an end because some hooser took screenshots of what was going on in the facebook group and dm them to jonah hill and was like just want to let you know like your girl ruthie is out here tripping and of course jonah hill who clearly checks his dms far too frequently saw the screenshots and was immediately put off by ruthie and wanted nothing to do with her when it actually could have been the greatest love story of our generation so it was really i mean I can go into like a whole tirade about how that person who DM Jonah Hill, like, I think that you are the, like the actual biggest piece of

trash. Like I just, you are the type of person, like if you're hearing this, you probably don't listen to this podcast anymore. You're definitely, you're definitely giving me former toaster energy FTE. But if you are listening to this, like you are are the worst. Oh, my God. Like, you are not a woman who supports women. You are just, like, such a little shit-stirring potser. And, like, you fucking ruined this for Ruthie. And you also ruined it for us. Like, everyone was so excited. Everyone was being discreet.

Like, we were cool back then. Like, we knew how to handle things like this. And it was just really, like, the first symptom that the group was really problematic because that was like the loosiest thing that ever fucking happened. Ruthie got destroyed. Her relationship with Jonah Hill got destroyed. And now we're thinking there might be a second chance. And I don't even know if Ruthie's a toaster anymore. This was like such a long time ago. But Ruthie, if you're listening to this, like go for it. This is the sign you've been looking for from the universe. Like Ruthie, it's your time. Go for it. Yeah. And you can tell him like, there's no more group. Like you've learned, you've snatched or learned your lesson. Yes. You see, like he was

with another woman and you, you've been waiting for this moment. Well, maybe sound like a little less desperate. Yeah. You know what to do, Ruthie, but here are the deets, okay? Jonah Hill and his fiancée, not Ruthie, have ended their relationship a little over a year after getting engaged, people confirms. A source tells people the split was amicable between the two after Gianna would find Jonah sleep-talking in the night. What? Sleep-talking in the night, asking,

Where's Ruthie? I thought you were serious. I'm like, how does People magazine have this information? Oh my God, that's so funny. You know, she definitely came between them. Like it was a wedge that couldn't be ignored. Allegedly, a woman named Ruthie, who's beautiful, stunning, and smart, and a fan of the morning toast, was never far from Jonah's mind.

And Santos, 31, had to move on. That's devastating for Santos. stunning and smart and a fan of the morning toast was never far from Jonah's mind. And Santos 31 had to move on. That's devastating for Santos. But you know, when true love comes like this once in a lifetime, you just, you can't ignore it. Yeah.

That's what the article says at least. So back to this couple, just in general, I feel like they were so random and they happened so fast and I'm not really shocked at all that they got, um, that they broke up. um you know my heart still beats for ruthie and jonah and that's when i wake up every morning and i'm like you know go to bed every night i say my prayers i think of ruthie and jonah like i keep them in my heart they've just been they've you know when you're just like really affected by a couple like their love is like inspiring and it stays with you yeah that's what i had and so for us ruthie and jonah stands for us rona stands for us rona stands this is an exciting time because the possibilities are endless

yeah i mean for me like when i go down to my port of all my ships in the harbor um i still i keep a ship for ruthie and and Jonah I never let it sail now I have a question for you can you give us like a a guided digital tour of your port who else is down there oh of course sure I thought you'd never ask um so I have my most major ships you know my forever my forever people I would say like but what's like, and those ships are stored in the back, and you don't really see them so much, and they're not as interchangeable. But, like, these days, like, Machine Gun Kelly, Megyn Kelly, they have a little ship. It's getting bigger, too.

It's getting bigger, too. And another ship that we had had that actually might be sinking is Lily James and Chris Evans. By the way, can we talk about that story? Is that a story? Yeah, that's actually the next story if you want to get right into it. That's actually a sickening segue. It's so strange.

So strange. Dominic West and his wife insist that their marriage is strong after he's spotted with Lily James. Dominic West and wife Catherine Fitzgerald insisted in a handwritten note shown to paparazzi that their marriage is, quote, strong and kissed for photographers outside their family home after pictures emerged this week of West getting cozy with actress Lily James in Rome. The note read, our marriage is strong and we're very much still together. Thank you.

So for those who don't know, Dominic West starred in The Affair. He played the worst character on TV of all time named Noah. He's also in The Wire. Oh, that I don't know. Allegedly. I've never seen that. What's crazy about this story is it's really like life imitates art sort of thing. Making Lily James Allison and Catherine Fitzgerald.

What was his wife's name? Helen. Maura? Oh, Helen. Her name is Maura Tierney in real life. Okay, Helen, yes. Yes. No, to me, there's so many weird elements about this story. I think the most horrifying one is the fact that they hand wrote a letter on a piece of, like, printer paper with a sharpie and, like, gave it to the paparazzi. Like, don't you have a publicist? That's called a statement. Like, they're taking, like, they're just being so extreme and, like, primal about a statement. I think it's so funny.

Second of all, life imitating art, definitely a weird thing about this story. There has always been something weird about Dominic West. Allison, who was on The Affair, who was, like, one of the main characters, like, literally disappearing in the night and, like, never coming back to the show. There was so much weirdness, especially towards the end. And he just gives me very, very weird vibes. It's obvious that they have some sort of arrangement, you know, and that's their marriage because you don't get caught kissing another woman. And then you don't like stand by your wife and say that your marriage is great. And she's there kissing you too. That's just not how life works. So it's obvious that they have some sort of arrangement, but like

Lily James is fabulous and, and young. And what does she want with this smelly old man? I don't know know maybe she didn't watch the affair so she doesn't like hate him as much as we do hate hate hate hate they're currently working together on the set of a period drama the pursuit of love also as i said last we heard from her she was linked to chris evans and i think that we i i think you and i differed if i remember correctly like you thought this was just a flash in the pan. And I thought maybe like a ship was starting to set sail, but it's clear that you were right. And I was wrong. But you know what, like her and Chris

Evans, like that makes sense. Like that is an appropriate pair. Like they're similar fame levels, similar age. They're kind of similar looking i like i could see those two happening to bed you know like i can i could see it but this dominic west thing leaves me very confused and with lots of questions because it just makes absolutely no fucking sense yeah when i saw the story i sent it to you i just thought it was like beyond crazy also it's crazy to get caught taking like making out with someone like via paparazzi Yeah, they were at lunch in the public just kissing each other's necks. They were on a romantic getaway to Rome. This isn't Justin Timberlake holding hands that one time.

No, but that was crazy too. I think about that all the time. Yeah, but this was really premeditated a fairdom. It was a date. It was a date. It was a date, on a romantic getaway, to Rome. Rome. Well, um, we'll keep you updated on what happens here, but all parties involved are fucking weird. Agreed.

Okay, next story, a little more relationship, Splitsville news, one that I did not see coming. Bethany Frankel splits from boyfriend Paul Vernon after two years together. I'm so upset by this. Bethany and Paul Vernon have called it quits after two years of dating. Page six has exclusively learned. They broke up a couple weeks ago and are saying it's because of distance. But you know Bethany, a source told page six. What a mean source.

Holy, who's the source, Ramona? Oh my god, that is so crazy. Well, now I don't believe the story. Yeah, I mean, that's the source. If it is true, I'll be really, really upset. I feel like Bethany is someone who just deserves happiness in a relationship, and she deserves a healthy relationship. She's been in so many toxic relationships, and she's still like a very strong person and i really actually thought this guy paul was going to be it for her like they had such a happy life like he's just as successful as she is they travel to italy they do philanthropy like it's a rich person's dream and if it's not working out i'll be really really sad for her yeah me too now i feel i mean i feel

like the story's probably true but i just now there's a hole in it based on this bitchy source um yeah but i also i i too thought that this was end game for her and there was a ship involved i'm not gonna lie no it was a big one because they're both super wealthy and they were always on yachts like it was a big ship for me they actually they bought their boat and they just docked it in my port. This is a, this is a tough loss. I'm not going to lie. I am probably like one of Bethany's biggest fans. Like I just really want good things for her.

Um, and in her personal life, I feel like these good things are far and few between. Few and far between. Yeah. Few and far between. Yeah. Yeah. Well, hopefully if this is what went down it's what's best for bethany and that she finds someone even more suited for her yeah like he lives in boston

it's not the biggest deal when you have like when you have private planes at your accessible to you boston to new york is like uptown to downtown yeah it's like a 45 minute flight that's like a 45 minute car ride to go see your mans you know sometimes no, sometimes, like, if I'm going, like, all the way downtown, it could take me 45 minutes. Yeah, that would be like dating someone who lives in New Jersey. Hoboken, yeah. That's long distance. Totally.

Ooh, sorry. I just got choked up because this next story really hurts me. Because Kelly Clarkson is saying that the past few months have been horribly sad during her divorce. it's the worst so kelly clarkson is being careful of everyone involved in her ongoing divorce from brandon blackstock during what she says has been a horribly sad time the singer spoke to entertainment tonight about being open when it comes to sharing her personal experiences with fans while also balancing her loved one's privacy Clarkson is mom to daughter River Rose and son Remington Alexander as well as a stepmom to her ex-husband's children from

a previous marriage she said the thing that's been kind of hard to navigate is I'm an open book but at some point I'm a mama bear more than I am a person in the public eye so I care 100% more about my children than I do anything else on this planet. So that's been the hard thing of like, yes, I'm willing to share my experience and yes, it is the worst. I mean, the past few months have been horribly sad, but at the same time I have to think, hmm, like what I say has a domino effect in other people's lives. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, Kelly Clarkson is just like truly an American idol, literally. Um, and I just feel like when you get divorced at that stage, like with kids and like everything is so complex, it's probably so difficult. And I feel like that's

what Marriage Story was like trying to emulate. But you know who did it better than Marriage Story is Betty and Don Draper, like seeing like you being happy in your own life, but then also seeing like your husband move on and like having to split your kids and like now your kids love the stepmom. Like it's hard. Like I can imagine that's very difficult and Kelly Clarkson is just so strong and she works so hard and we just like we need happiness for her and we need inner peace for her yeah we really do and I I'm sure she's on her way there but there's gonna be some bumps in the road and and us Kelly St stands we we support you kelly if you're listening somehow you've ended up in the wrong podcast app in the store we support you yeah we're unwavering and

i think that i just love her and then you know i feel like she's probably more open than ever because now that she's like a daytime talk show host she's in people's living rooms people feel very close to her and she's probably opening up on her show and just like when she's doing press more now than she ever has about like personal stuff and just like what's going on in her life and I appreciate that that doesn't stop with her divorce even if it's just to let us know like hey I have kids I'm not talking about this yeah definitely well so I think that's what she's probably trying to do here it's like please respect my space and as Kelly Stans we have no choice but to respect your space consider the space respected respected and as like

the number one kelly fan in the world um like i don't need like if i don't need it no one else does yes yes sometimes when you're like so obsessed with someone in their relationship is like a huge part of like why you're obsessed with them you feel like you need to know what happened but in this particular situation i think we can all kind of take a step back and give Kelly respect and space because I don't need to know. Honestly, I couldn't pick her husband out of the lineup. Yeah, I agree. If he was standing next to a bunch of guys in a bar in the middle of Idaho, I wouldn't have any idea that he was famous or rich.

Yeah, well, he's not famous. Well, we're talking about him. I guess. But yeah, no, I don't know what he looks like either. And is he the one who was Reba's son? Or that was her previous? Yeah. So he was Reba's stepson,

but she broke up with her mans that connected her to him. Right. And now she's running around town with, who was it that we reported on? From Fast and Furious. Oh, right. He was like a no-name cutie. A no-name cutie who has a familiar fox.

Yeah, and CSI. Oh, yeah. I remember him. I remember. Yeah, CSI. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mad cute. Mad cute.

Okay, are you ready for our fifth and final story? Sad. Yeah. So sad. It's always sad when it's the fifth and final. Yeah. Make it a good one. Oh, shit.

Pressure's on. I don't know if I delivered. But Patricia Field is sharing the stories behind her Emily in Paris outfits. What do you think? Wow. Or should I scram? That's bleak. A bleak.

Should I scramble for another one? No, it's okay. Is there anything interesting in the article about Emily? Well, not about Emily, but about the inspiration for the outfits and i actually didn't know that patricia field did the wardrobe for the show and i think that wardrobe is one of the biggest conversation pieces about the show i agree and i also do want to talk about the show like a little bit more if you're interested always not that i think that my opinions have changed i just want to like restate them maybe in a different maybe in a different frame because I feel like people think that we hated the show.

And like there's absolutely nothing to hate about the show. Like it's a perfectly fine show. I think – There's just nothing to love. I think people think that you hated the show. But I have this relationship with it where it's like it pushes my buttons but I cannot wait for the next season. Like I'm very much a fan of the show, but I definitely think it needs some work. And I'm sorry, I'm critical of the things that I care about.

And that's just on period. You really can't wait for the next season? Yeah, no, like when it was over, I was like, damn, I wish we had a second season right now. Oh my God, when it was over, I was like, finally back to a place to call home. Okay, anyway anyway legendary costume designer patricia field is the brains behind the unforgettable outfits from sex in the city the devil wears prada younger and more most recently she's uh teamed up with darren star again for emily in paris she says i visualized emily as an optimistic young professional who

was happy to have an opportunity to work in par. She tries to adapt to French chic while still expressing her American identity. To that end, Emily often punctuates her everyday looks with berets and even sports a nightful tower printed top by Alison Olivia to her first day on the job at French luxury marketing company, Savoir, a move that, according to Field, expresses on one hand her naivete and the other her excitement for this work opportunity. I actually loved her first day of work outfit and that she was wearing something that had an Eiffel Tower on it because, like, I feel like that's something

an American girl in Paris would do. Yeah, to be honest, like, the, I feel like the wardrobe was probably, like, the best and worst part of the show for me because it was so sickening. Like, most of it was really just cool, but then part of you is, like, having a hard time suspending disbelief, and it's like, okay, she is, like, an account executive. She just moved to Paris. How does she have a new Chanel bag every day of the week and, like, a couture gown to wear to all these galas? Like,

it makes no sense, but that was also something that I feel like Sex and the City had, and I feel like I keep comparing the two, but it's really just because Patricia Field did Sex and the City, Darren Starr did Sex and the City, but, like, like I keep comparing the two, but it's really just because Patricia Field did Sex and the City. Darren Starr did Sex and the City. But like Carrie like literally couldn't, you know, find two nickels to rub together. But she had a thousand pairs of Manolo Blahniks. Yeah, I agree with that. And to some degree, I'm okay like suspending disbelief.

Like her wardrobe doesn't have to totally match up to like her approximate salary. But to have a like very niche specific unique Chanel bag for every Chanel coat that she has it's just unbelievable not to be believed and then like walking out of her apartment from what I'm told in one of like the best most expensive residential Parisian neighborhoods you know it's like how does that add up oh is that what you're told well that actually kind of adds up because it was supposed to be for her boss apartment for her boss so she like got a sweet situation but who's paying for the apartment the company no i don't think so she said in the beginning of the show that there was like a moving stipend yeah like because you have to pack up your shit and move and like it's

expensive to move i think that's what a moving statement is i don't think they pay for your apartment okay interesting uh patricia field also said the ballet outfit was inspired by audrey hepburn which i totally see lily collins really does look like audrey hepburn that was a beautiful outfit um the perfume um party where she was like wearing that black strapless like teacup length dress you know how I feel about teacup length but it was sickening oh wow we'd love to see that also you know what I wouldn't mind seeing in a show like this what some outfit repetition I know that's like not I know that goes against the point of the wardrobe designer yeah I think that really would make it more realistic yeah I think I've been trying to put into words like why the show it's kind of been like this polarizing thing like

people are talking about it like how it's so cringy and it's like what all these things but that they also love it and I can't figure out what it is that makes the show so like bad but also good and I agree that at some point it's like far too unrealistic in just the logistics of the show and I know that's not supposed to be a factor but it's just like we're supposed to see ourselves in Emily like we're like young girls who work in media and it's like I cannot relate to this bitch on any fucking level yeah I agree I for me it just it comes down to the fact there's no heart and soul there's no depth i need i need something an emotional connection to the show and there was none so yes it was pretty to watch sure but when you're coming off of a place to call home you're gonna you're gonna need for more

i and i also think that it was released at the complete worst time it could have possibly been released she said what she said i said what i said anyways interesting to hear that patricia field did the design. Page Six Style has a whole interview with her if you want to learn more about her inspiration behind Lily Collins as Emily Cooper. She's incredibly talented. Does she do the younger wardrobe as well? Yeah. Yeah, Darren Starluck likes to keep her employed. I think the younger wardrobe most of the time completely hits the nail on the head in terms of New York City young professional working girls. I completely agree. And I think also they really hit the nail on the head on like what people in different boroughs wear, like how they dress everyone when they're in Brooklyn and how they dress everyone when they're in Manhattan.

Yes. And also I think she completely hit the nail on the head in how she dresses the characters like transition from day to night, from like working to like drinks at uh you know their women's club yeah i i love younger that's like probably one of my favorite shows i can't wait for it to come back yeah i love it too who does sudden foster look like that we just watched oh she looks like maya we thought she looked like maya from selling sunset but people didn't agree oh also we didn't talk about yesterday but another story to just shove in really quickly. Davina has announced that she's leaving the Oppenheim group, and so what's happening with season four of Selling Sunset

is very much up in the air. Okay, I saw that. I didn't think it was, like, merited Fast Five, but does that really change the show at all? I feel like Davina was always a, like, friend of Housewife. Yeah, she was, like, a secondary character housewife. Yeah, she was like a secondary character. Always. This season she made a name for herself by being a huge

bitch, but until then she was fucking irrelevant. Yeah. She was just friend of saleswoman. Friend of realtor. Yeah. F-O-R. So I don't think it's going to really affect the show whatsoever. But what about her $80 million property? I don't know. That was going to really affect the show whatsoever. But what about her $80 million property?

I don't know. That was crazy. Maybe she'll take it. She has her broker's license. She'll take it out on her own. Yeah, who's really going to want to buy a house from that? I don't know how you have like a successful, like a really, like, I don't know actually.

There's such a fine line. Like in real estate, I feel like you can be on TV and it's not like tacky and it can really help like build your business. Like all those million-dollar listing LA and New York people are incredibly, they make way more money doing real estate than they do from the show. Like, and the show is really good for their business. But sometimes I feel like going on the show dilutes your business depending on what, what field you're in. I know it depends on the show too.

Like I actually don't think that it has diluted the Oppenheim group. If I lived in LA or I was wanting to buy a house in Sunset, that would be my first stop. I don't know of any other realtors out there. Hello, Mauricio. Oh, that's true. I think that, but he's also on a TV show. So if I'm going to be judgy about that, I might as well go to the Oppenheim group and ask for Christine directly. Of course.

Christine is buying my next home in L.A. Yeah. So I think it depends on the show, on the people on the show. And I think that Sailing Sunset has not diluted Oppenheim Group. And I think that the show has been a great platform, assuming these houses actually are for sale. It's a great marketing tool. And they're all about marketing these Oppenheimers. And more people are seeing their properties, assuming these are real property. I just like, don't want to look into, you know, the validity and the, um, because I know I'll be disappointed that like the whole show is fake. All the houses are fake. None of them are actually for sale. Like million dollar listing New York. I know a lot of people who like have lend their apartments to filming,

like those apartments were never for sale. So I know a lot of it is scripted and I just don't want to look into it because I like to pretend let me pretend yeah the house that I loved that Mary sold do you remember that girl Emily apparently she already lived there yeah and they just like did that like and I found her Instagram and I sent it to Jackie yeah um oh good times I miss the selling sunset days. Yeah, well, my days of Mad Men are truly numbered. I'm so, like, I don't even want to look at the episode numbers because I'm, like, very in on season seven. I've just been, like, analyzing all the characters. And I need your help because I was, like, sharing my thoughts on social media and, like, nobody agreed with me, of course.

I always feel like I, like, have the opinion of the majority. And when it turns out, like, nobody agrees with me, not even, feel like i like have the opinion of the majority and when it turns out like nobody agrees with me not even like the minority nobody um but i feel like and what i gather from my dms is like we are supposed to love peggy she's like the champion she's like the little engine that could she made it all the way protagonist yeah and you realize that because you eventually stop rooting for don like your first like your POV is always from Don and like you actually really want him to succeed, especially in the professional world. And then for me, it started like on a personal level, I did not care about him. Like I wanted him to lose. I wanted Betty to win. I wanted him to be angry. And then that

started to translate to the professional world when it's like, you know what? Don is like not good at his job. He's always in the office office but can never be found he's constantly fucking things up he doesn't care about the partners so it's like when they put him on that leave of absence you're like good you I like I'm not now rooting for him to fail and I think that energy I once put into wanting Don to succeed is supposed to transfer on to Peggy because she is you know uh a real up-and-comer and she's got the ideas and she won the catch up. And she did it all, you know, as a woman, which in the sixties was virtually impossible and we're supposed to like love her. I can't stand her. Like everything about her bothers me from the, what she wears to how she talks and just everything. And I just don't, I don't know what it is. And it's like,

maybe there's something wrong with me as a woman I need to get my vagina checked because I feel like I'm just supposed to love her and I don't I love Joan I think she's absolutely everything of the sort and I love that she fucking made it as a partner I love her but I don't think we're supposed to like love love love Joan I think we're supposed to love love love Peggy I don't um I don't know i think peggy's like like there's something in joan that inspires deep love or otherwise yeah or like you know inspires strong feelings i think peggy is is meh really and i also think that your opinion of her character is biased due to the actress who plays yes I was just gonna say there's something about Elizabeth Olsen's that Olsen that is so inherently unlikable oh fuck oh my god I keep saying that Peggy Olsen Elizabeth Moss there's something about her that's so inherently unlikable

that it's a deep character flaw for Peggy the fact that she's played by Elizabeth Moss yeah I agree but I think that that they chose her. Like, they knew what they were doing. Yeah. I don't think she's meant to be super likable, but I do think you start to like her more. Her ideas are really good. Like, if a campaign falls onto her desk,

like, she's going to get out of the park. She's very reliable. You respect her professionally, for sure. Yeah. I just got to the part last night where that guy, Michael Ginsberg, who was, like, the Jewish copywriter who um like lived with his dad they put the computer in the office and he like went insane and thought the computer was like trying to like turn everyone in the office into homosexuals and he cut like a a hole in his chest because he thought the computer

put like a valve in there and Peggy had to call like a mental institution to like come take him out of the office it was so sad that is really sad I don't remember that really and I wonder if that's like something that really happened in the 60s so now once I'm done I is what part of this is real is is any of it real is it all fictional it's all like based on you know different people and stories and nothing it's not a it's not a true story by any means i think don draper is like an a mixture of a few different mad men of the 60s but no none of it is actually real there might be like similar stories with like campaigns yeah um ad campaigns but it's not meant to be taken yeah okay so Okay. So I didn't think so, but it's still, it's just such an incredible show. And like, now that it's winding down, I'm like appreciating

every episode so much back to some more character evaluations. Like I cannot believe how much I have fallen in love with Pete Campbell. Like he was such a little worm at first and I don't agree with everything he does. He's very nuts, but he's so funny. Even when he's not trying to be funny, he's so grimy. His hairline is getting further and further and further and further from his eyebrows with every episode that passes. He's just hilarious. And I don't think he's meant to trying to be funny, but there's something about his character that's actual comedy genius.

Where is he now in his life? He and Trudy are separated. He went to LA and he's like fucking around with that real estate agent, Bonnie. Okay. Yeah. The LA episodes are funny. What's up with Don?

Well, so he's been put on leave and now he found out that the reason why they really want him out, he was like on a very downward spiral, but the reason why they wanted him out is because they're very close to getting a huge cigarette company and the cigarette company will never work with Don. Yeah. So he just interrupted the meeting between Lou, Harry Hamlin and the cigarette people and like gave them like a whole speech about why he actually should work with them. And that's where the episode ended because Ben wanted to go to bed, but I was up till five,

like dying to know, like, did it work or like, is he fired? Wait, so what do you think about Harry Hamlin? You know, I think he's a terrible actor. I really, really do. And maybe, maybe it's a curse of being on a reality show where I cannot see you as anything other than who you are. I don't know, I don't know if that's why I feel like he's a bad actor, because he's so clearly not Mr. Cutler. I don't know if that's why I feel like he's a bad actor because he's so clearly not Mr. Cutler. He's Harry. He's making pies. He's in Malibu.

Like, either he's a bad actor or I just cannot think of him or see him as anything other than Harry Hamlin, Lisa Ritter's husband. I don't know. But something about it, I'm just not buying. That's so interesting. And so do you agree with me that he's, like, such an ancillary character on the show? Like, useless. Okay. so interesting and so do you agree with me that he's like such an ancillary character on the show like useless okay um i'm just like i love so many of them i'm like gonna be sad when it's over like i absolutely love roger sterling like he's he's complex but he's a good man yeah i love him too same with burke cooper like he doesn't really have a big role but he's just like funny and i don't know i just i i love dawn um uh don's it's very confusing dawn and don dawn don's secretary who then got joan's job when joan became you know an account man it's just there's new characters being added all the time and i just like we're

like a family you know and i'm gonna be really sad to see them go i'm in the same spot i have about four more episodes or three more episodes of A Place to Call Home. I'll just never be the same after this show. I really won't. And I think once your Mad Men hangover subsides, maybe you should start it because it's a life-changing show. And if you guys are looking for something to get into and you've already watched Mad Men and you've already watched Desperate Housewives, A Place to Call Home is up there. Top three for me. I said what I said. I said what I said.

I said what I said. It's like a big journey for me to start a show. It takes a lot of convincing, but it takes a whole other level of convincing when I have to download a new app. Acorn? Acorn TV, you guys. That's the app. $5.99 a month. Oh, I have to pay for it? Yep. If you want to bang out all the episodes in seven

days, you can get it for free. Oh, hell no. Hell no. Okay. I you want to bang out all the episodes in seven days, you can get it for free. Oh, hell no. Hell no. Okay, I just want to say, like, it's worth its weight. And also, the app has, like, all these other shows that we've never heard of before. It's a whole new can of whoop-ass. Maybe I will use your login, if that's okay.

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