The Toast - S3 Ep167: The One About Pentatonix: Thursday, October 15th, 2020

Episode Date: October 15, 2020

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Thursday! So close to Friday. Hey, Claude. How you doing? Hey, guys. Hey, Jax. I'm doing good. Slept 12 hours, feeling bright and bubbly and effervescent. I'm so jealous. I did not sleep 12 hours. And do you want to know why? Why? Two things. One, I was happy to lose sleep over the other i was not okay first billboard music awards three hours and change second real housewives of orange county the most boring content i've seen in a long ass time yeah i um i actually work you know what they

say work smarter not harder i managed to watch like a bunch of the Billboard Music Awards and all of OC just like by being shady, like recording, you know, jumping back and forth. The Billboard Music Awards after Luke Combs performed, like I completely lost interest in. There were some moments. I fast forwarded through the performances that I started that I was like, oh, I'm good on this.

Like I'm good. But I'm glad that I watched till the end, even though I fast forwarded, because I caught some really stellar performances. Some of my favorites of the night that, like, I wouldn't have expected to be my favorites. But we're going to recap it in the first story. So I'm excited to hear all your thoughts on one of music's biggest nights. One of. One of many.

Biggest nights. One of. One of many. I wanted to come on here and say that Theo has a statement he'd like to issue, if that's okay with everyone. Oh my gosh. Of course. Of course, of course, of course. So Theo is returning to the studio on Monday, October 19th, along with us. If you guys have been waiting for us to come back, we will be filming and recording audio on Monday, october 19th so you have nothing to be worried about theo will be there and he just wanted to let everyone

know like he's coming in hot like he is really coming in fired up i mean i wouldn't expect anything less from him but like to hear that from his mouth like just gets me so excited and honestly it inspires me to you know give it all give my all and leave it all in the studio. Because if Theo's doing it for us, like we should be doing it for ourselves. So I'm so excited to hear that. He's honestly an inspiration. He's the hardest working man in television. And I cannot like when I see him on Monday, I am going to die.

Like I miss him so much. We've been apart for far too long now and I and I think he we have separation anxiety from one another like we really miss each other and it's just going to be a beautiful moment also you just reminded me that yesterday Jackie and I filmed um recorded a Patreon podcast episode it was a part two to something we did last month which was like we each took like a 60 question quiz about how well we know one another. So this one was, I was taking the quiz about how well I know Jackie. And I'm not going to lie. I think I aced the test. And the podcast episode was hilarious. We just learned so much about Jackie. It's on the Patreon. And then there's also part one, if you missed it, about the quiz about me,

patreon.com slash TheMorningToast. And I'm actually recording right after this a podcast with Taylor Strucker for our patron. She's a fabulous gal. Always has lots to update us on. And it's going to be fabulous. So if you're not a patron member, now's the time. Now's the time. And you're also taking questions for the Taylor Strucker episode. So I need to submit my questions because I will be listening to this as just like a fan of the Taylor Strucker show. I'm such a fan of the Taylor Strucker show. And so I got to get my questions because I will be listening to this as just like a fan of the Taylor Strucker show.

I'm such a fan of the Taylor Strucker show. And so I got to get my questions in for the woman herself. Yeah, I know. It's a big deal. Like we have a big deal coming on the Patreon. Don't miss out. And like we said on yesterday's Patreon, in the world of Patreon.com slash The Morning Toast, when it rains, it pours.

So this is a week where it's going to be raining premium content and if you were ever on the fence about joining i think this is your week i really do get your umbrella it's raining get your umbrella it's raining toast hey hallelujah it's raining toast raining toast i miss theo me too he's not even like literally i never even see him because he hates me um so i i i know what you're going through jackie i really miss him too you know what i'm gonna do something so annoying but i'm surprised i haven't done it sooner so you recently mentioned that you have a secret special project that is dropping really soon. And I think I'm going to spoil it for everyone. Okay.

No, I'm kidding. No, I think that I want to share that I actually have something secret and special that is happening in my world like really soon. And I'm not going to share yet, not because I want to be annoying, but because I don't want to jinx it, because I want to make sure that like it really happens. But I think that a lot of people are going to be really happy for me no no I think pretty much you just gave it away and it's so fabulous and it's so wonderful and it's such a blessing and we're very much looking forward to this project yeah and I just

want to say I'm not pregnant like oh yeah yeah because that's like really sad if that's what everyone assumes and like it's not yeah it's not like that yeah so I just want to say I'm not pregnant. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because that's really sad if that's what everyone assumes. It's not like that. Yeah. So I just wanted to get everyone as excited as I am because I feel like there's a pep in my step. And I just want you guys to know why. Wow. Yeah. So now it's out there, sort of.

And now that that's out there, I think we can dive in. What do you think? Oh, oh, oh, oh. You know, I think this is a good time to bring this up because I feel like the dive-ins have been extremely hasty recently. Oh, really? Like, no, I just feel like before COVID, like, we used to shoot the shit for, like, 15 minutes and then we would take a dip right in, you know?

And even though right now I actually am ready to dive right in because I do want to talk about the Billboard Music Awards, I feel as though, like, sometimes we just gotta let the chips fall where they may. Yeah, sometimes there's also nothing to say and, like, we have to get on with our show. No, but, like, I have plenty of things to say. Oh, sorry. That's why I asked.

I'm talking and talking. That's why I asked. I'm talking and talking. That's why I asked, are you ready? You have something you want to say? Say it, girlfriend. Okay. I don't get ready.

I stay ready to deliver the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. So just to be clear, was there anything else you wanted to say? Like there wasn't anything on the tip of my tongue, but I just could have kept going talking about like what's new with us. What's new with you, Jax? I'm sorry. I mean, you'll have to see. Okay. So to be clear, there was nothing that you wanted to talk about. Okay, so to be clear, there was nothing that you wanted to talk about.

No, but like, I want, I reserve the right to keep talking. Okay, sure. Well, I reserve the right to tell everyone that today's episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Is there something interfering with your happiness or is it preventing you from achieving your goals? BetterHelp will assess your needs and match you with your own licensed professional therapist. You can start communicating in under 48 hours. BetterHelp is not a crisis line. It is not self-help. It is a professional counseling. Thank you. affordable than traditional offline counseling and financial aid is available. BetterHelp is committed to facilitating great therapeutic matches so they make it easy and free to change counselors if needed. You'll get timely and thoughtful responses, plus you can schedule weekly video or phone sessions so you won't ever have to sit in an uncomfortable waiting room as with traditional therapy. BetterHelp wants you to start living a happier life today. Visit

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Yes, exactly. Sign on, get better health. Okay, first story, Billboard Music Awards 2020. See the complete list of winners and let's talk about the performances. So in the winners category, Post Malone was the night's big winner. He took home nine Billboard Music Awards. He won Top Artist. Billie Eilish won Top new artist. Harry Styles won the

Billboard Chart Achievement Award. Post Malone won top male artist. Billie Eilish won top female artist. Jonas Brothers won top duo or group. Post Malone won top Billboard 200 artist. He also won top Billboard 100 artist. He also won top streaming songs artist. Lizzo won top song sales artist. Hold on. Jonas Brothers won top radio songs artist. BTS won the top social artist fan voted. And according to their speech, they won five years in a row. Pink won the top touring artist. Khalid won top R&B artist. And the list goes on and on. But those are the major categories. And Posty, it was really like Post Malone and Billie Eilish. Yes. Who took home the night's biggest accolades that were shown on TV. Yeah, like for the most part, I don't really tune in for the Billboard Music Awards, like for the awards.

I really wanted to see Kelly. I wanted to see her intro, her Kelly Oki. She usually does, like, a medley of the year's greatest songs. She did not do that. She did Higher Love, which I loved. She brought out Pentatonix, who I think are, like, some of the most annoying people on earth. But they actually did a great job, like, supporting her vocally. And also Sheila E., who's, like, an amazing percussionist. Like, it was actually a really good performance. But they really did not, you know, whoever was amazing percussionist like it was actually a really good performance but they really did not you know whoever was producing this like was out to get Kelly because the lack of a fake audience like really hindered the the vibe the progress like going from one performance to another and then presenting some a new presenter like there was no fluidity. It was just constant, awkward silences. And she even addressed her, like the choice to not have a fake audience.

And she did this whole bit with the remote. And I thought after that, like she would have it. And it just, it, it really needed it. And I thought that like the BBMAs as a whole had like a bunch of like glitches. Like post Malone's performance.

Like, I don't know where he was. They had some sort of glitch, but like his mouth was not matching up with the audio for like the first three out of five minutes. And they just kept zooming out, like thinking that we wouldn't notice. But like we did.

It was just glitchy-o. It was very glitchy. Yeah, I did notice that the mouth was not syncing up. I thought maybe it was just my TV. I thought that they could have definitely benefited from a clapping track but I respected the honesty in the fact that there was no one there and I think despite the awkwardness which was spelt mostly when someone would announce a winner and then there was like no applause and someone would like squeak out and walk up to the microphone it was like I don't know it just felt like some sort of comedy yeah but I think that in lieu of all of that

Kelly did amazing like she just has this presence about her where she's just not awkward you know like and when there's an awkward moment she just smooths it over like what's it like to be that person I have no idea like I'm someone who makes an awkward moment like even worse yeah and she just like with a laugh and with a chuckle she just brushes it off so i think she really was the woman for the job i thought that her opening song i agree i thought it was going to be a medley of the year's biggest hits it was not it was just a beautiful song that was performed really well and i feel like it's extremely on brand for you to hate pentatonix oh is it probably just because i'm jealous that they don't want me to be a part of their group.

I just I don't really see. The need for them like in society. Do you know what I mean? I hear what. I understand what you're saying. I personally don't agree. I always feel like. In any award show.

Whenever there's just like a special performance. Like you can just slot Pentatonix in. To like do their Pentatonix-y thing. And they just like a special performance like you can just slot pentatonics in to like do their pentatonics thing and they'll like elevate the performance to make it a little more interesting i agree like i think talent wise they're incredibly talented and like you know so much so many of these award shows it's like you really get to see the celebrities who like low key cannot sing or dance and pentatonics just like year after year oh excuse me year after year is just like talented getting better more cohesive as a unit but there's just something about them maybe it's their name like or just like their their branding as a group like bothers me so much i don't know why

and i feel like this is like a universal thing does everyone hate pentatonics or is it literally just me let me know i feel like now that you're putting it out there, like people are going to come forward with their hatred. You know, I have like internalized pentatonics, like deep hatred. You know what I think it might be? I feel like maybe when they stepped out onto the scene, the lead singer, the female lead singer had a pixie cut. No, actually, I don't think so, because I actually think the lead singer and I was I

thought this last night, like she was her vocals were unbelievably incredible., and I actually thought she really gave Kelly a run for her money. And she was so cute. And I don't think it was the pixie cut. I just, I don't know. Maybe it's about my trauma from high school choir. But I don't know. I just feel like they're one of the most annoying groups. And I don't really get how an acapella group is famous.

And I don't really get, do they release their own music and if so like why is it terrible wow i mean these are some of the worst questions i apologize to the pentatonist stands but it's just it's how i feel yeah you know what she said what she said she feels how she feels and i don't feel strong enough about pentatonics to go toe-to-toe with you on this. I'm so glad. But I do want to give away my personal awards for my top three performances of the night. Okay. Because they're maybe not what you would have expected.

My number one performance, best in show of the night, was BTS with Dynamite. I was literally staring at the screen like with a smile the way like the first time we watched uh the be our guest scene in the new disney beauty and the beast movie like i was wowed the song was so good the dancing was so good the vocals were so good the backdrop it was really like a show-stopping performance because they were a lot they were it was filmed in south korea at the airport and so they just like pulled out all the stops and it was really like 10 out of 10 agreed and i loved it and i love that song and i love bts and like i'm on my way to being a bts stan no i know we are joining the army like let's get our boots on let's go

let's go my second best performance of the night was luke combs like from the haircut to the song i love the haircut to the speech like he was looking like the snatchler first of all yep snatchler it up um he sang better together he sounded amazing and i saw snitch posted on this on her story and i totally agree like i'm so jealous of the people who just watched the bbma's last night and like heard luke combs sing and were like was like oh who's that guy and are now like falling down a rabbit hole of Luke Combs content because there's just so much wonderfulness he looked so cute I don't think I've ever like seen him in a blazer like I think on the red carpet he always wears a blazer but then for his performance and when he sits in the like seats at the award

shows he always goes back to his like fishing outfit and something about seeing him in a blazer with this new haircut just made me see him in a new light. And it was really... He's a brand new man. He's a brand new man. I was like, who is he? Who is this mysterious blazer-wearing, buzz-cut gentleman? No, he really looked so stunning. And he sounded amazing.

And I was just so happy to see him back on the stage. What was your third favorite performance? My third favorite performance was Doja Cat. I thought that the way she did, like her concept for her performance of it being like a showgirl Broadway moment was so good. She started with her song Juicy, but then went into say so and um another one of her songs and she made them very like Marilyn Monroe and I just thought the concept was so good I love the songs and I'm loving her me too and I was I was very I was wowed I was

wowed by yeah I feel like these artists these days whenever they're doing award show performances they're just giving like a little bit extra, like giving a hundred percent. Whereas I feel like prior to COVID, there was just like an award show every month and it was just a part of being a celebrity and it was fun, but like it was just very standardized. And now I think that like a lot of celebrities actually missed not only like performing, but the press and the prestige that comes with that.

And they're giving their all to these performances. Like they have been definitely been elevated since COVID and quarantine began yeah I agree with that and also because some of the performances like Sia were very bare bones you know she was just stood on the stage and and there wasn't much going on like it got the bar is kind of low because there isn't that much you can do right now there you can't have that many backup dancers like you're limited so when someone like doja cat like felt like has a whole chorus of herself like being showgirls you respect the creativity a little more right i mean kelly's opening performance had like a zoom choir and it sounded really good stunning it sounded really

also now that you mentioned sia you know that like here at the morning toast we have the utmost respect for sia's songwriting singing abilities and her ability to be obsessed with the Kardashians but but I would be remiss I would be devastated I would even not to be dramatic I would be heartbroken if I just didn't mention that her performance was really disgraceful yeah no it really was like that's I don't want to go into it because it's it hurts yeah about being a see a stan but it was really bad and um there's just there's no other word for it yeah it was boring it was bad and I'm not trying to be a hater I'm just saying like as someone who appreciates you know talent and I really find myself like watching these things not as a fan but more as like a a talent critique you know what I mean um I just found it to be below the standard of what I've come to expect from Sia I agree with you I agree I said it that's

that on that yeah we'll leave it at that any other moments you would like to talk about before we move on no I mean my favorite moments from award shows are really like all the celebrities sitting in the seats together like seeing who's talking to who who's sitting next to who who stands for who who claps for who and that's the one thing that's really missing even from like the best quarantine zoom award show which I think thus far was like the ACM awards um that's what's missing for me and that's my favorite part and i just can't wait to get back to those moments yeah i feel that one day sis one day one day okay next story some sad couple news because claudia's former dance counselor

yes ashley hebert and jp rosenbaum are splitting after eight years of marriage. Quote, our differences have taken a toll. For those who don't know. Ashley Hebert and J.P. Rosenbaum. For those who don't know, when I was, maybe it was the summer of 2004. I was very young. Cam Viga, my counselor, was Ashley Herbert. And then I didn't watch. When she was a bachelorette, I was like a little too young to be watching.

And when I joined the fandom, I realized that my counselor, Ashley, was the bachelorette, I was like a little too young to be watching. And when I joined the fandom, I realized that my counselor, Ashley, was the bachelorette. And not only was she the bachelorette, she was like a successful one who got married and had kids. And then she came on The Morning Breath. And I was like, Queen, do you remember me? And she was like combing the back of her mind. And then she was, I was like, you were my counselor. And she was like, Jenny? And I'm like, no, Claudia. And she didn't remember me. But I remembered her. She was the dance teacher at camp. And it was really a wonderful moment for Kambiga. Yeah, that's the thing. The campers always remember the counselor. Yes. But the counselor doesn't always remember the campers. There's too many campers to remember. It's true. Well, her and her husband have decided

to end their marriage after nearly eight years she revealed on instagram that she and jp have already been separated for quote months she said quote it is with a heavy heart that i share with you that after months of separation jp and i have amicably decided to go our separate ways the pediatric dentist wrote alongside a photo of the couple dancing together we created the most beautiful children and shared memories that will never be forgotten our differences have taken a toll on our relationship, and after years of attempting to repair the damage, we've decided that it is in our family's best interest

to create new and separate lives for our children. That's so crazy. To respect our privacy as we move forward with the newness of our lives. That's really crazy and surprising and ultimately sad because it's, you know, the end of a marriage, splitting up a family. But if it's what's best for them, it's what's best for us. Yeah, no, it's, it's what's best for them. It's just like when people have been married for so long, you sometimes like forget about

them. Not, not in the sense that you could forget about their existence, but like the possibility of them breaking up is just like not a thing. Like they're together for eight years, they're together forever. But like the possibility of them breaking up is just like not a thing. Like they're together for eight years. They're together forever. And if this is what they needed to do in order to, you know, be happy, I respect that. But this is sad.

And you know what? It's sad for Bachelor Nation. I feel like this was this was like ABC's like proudest accomplishment. You know what I mean? One of them. Yeah. I have a call. What?

I have a call. She's going to be the bachelorette? Ashley Hebert. No, no, no. Nothing like that. It What? I have a call. She's going to be the bachelorette? Ashley Hebert. No, no, no, nothing like that. It's a lookalike call. Oh. Yes, wait a minute. Ashley Hebert.

Yeah? Reminds me of Ashley Darby. Oh. And Ashley Darby also reminds me of, in this trio of lookalikes, Doja Cat. Okay, I'm not seeing any of these. Ashley H. looks like the mom from awkward oh i don't i don't think about her oh i do she was just in mad men oh was she oh also to me like ashley h has like similar looks and energy as ashley darby and then

watching doja cat last night i was reminded of ash Ashley Darby that's that's it and I look forward to like just talking with the people who support me in my calls because I'm completely misunderstood here yeah no I'm not one of those people I think like every call you make is delusional I think every call that I make is like before it's time it's like I'm looking into their souls yeah you know you can't even see what i'm seeing i'm soul searching and it's like it's not just the fudge it's more than the fudge okay oh also i finished mad men last night and i was like really disappointed with how it ended i know um i saw your story and did you post it on your yeah and um i understand why you were but then you have to do some research and then it starts to make sense so basically like down

i know and you literally and you think that like he is done and he'll never like that he is cooked but then he bounces back and creates like the biggest ad of all time, which is that Coca-Cola commercial in the, in the, uh, what's it called? The field. Sort of setting. Yeah. Um, and like, if you don't know that that's really like one of the greatest advertisements of all time, then the end means nothing to you.

But the message is that like Don, even as crazy and spinned out as he gets, he always comes back to like the best idea. He's the best guy okay listen even though throughout the show like he is like really not good at his job and i didn't get that many creative ideas from him and like i felt like he was no offense to slacker yes i appreciate you assuming that i just didn't like it because i didn't understand it because i'm stupid i got it i know that that ad is like so iconic 1971 coca-cola they still use that logo logo no no slogan till this day I know and I see he got the idea in the commune and I see it and

but I just I was disappointed with the ending because it's like this is how this group of brothers ends up like Rogers Sterling's living in Canada Pete Campbell's living in Wichita Peggy's being you know like treated like a shitty secretary, even though she's like a fancy copywriter at McCann. And now it's like they're all separate. And I'm like, this is how the story ends. I'm like, I thought they were going to get the agency back together. You know, it's like they ended like being cogs in a machine at McCann Erickson, even

Don, even though he had this great idea he's still one of like what is it 30 creative directors I mean makes you think then maybe there's a message in that yeah and honestly towards the end I was just so oh I'm sorry and then the worst of all Betty dies oh yeah I forgot she had six months to live and like all the kids know it was fucking horrible like I get I think that they were trying to at least from like a 2010 perspective or whenever the show was on, try and like, you know, show like smoking has consequences. Like I think like they couldn't just have everyone in the show smoking every five seconds without like someone getting lung cancer because that's not what happens.

People do get lung cancer from smoking. So I think they took Betty out, which was devastating because like what is Henry Francis going to do without her? And he was aging like a fine wine like every year he was just more handsome and like svelte and he was getting fit and trim and it was just fabulous so she had to die and that really upset me and i don't know i was just like disappointed in so many of how the characters like ended off like megan was the fucking worst she gets a million dollars from don because he's like in a good mood that day Don was the fucking worst too like terrible at his job never at the office but also always at the office can't cheat on can't stay faithful to literally anyone thinks that

he's so brilliant and just runs away to Wisconsin like that whole thing when he ran away and they thought he stole the money and it was whole so bizarre yeah the end really did kind of get bad um but i don't even i just remember the end being that coca-cola commercial and it's just like don's the greatest yeah but like you know what he's not like honestly more i agree more often than not like peggy had better ideas than him even like the other guys like ginsburg and stan oh and then then peggy and stan end up together and i'm like were we supposed to be shipping them the whole time i really thought they were just friends. Like, it wasn't. Like, that's.

I liked Peggy with Ted Shaw. I don't remember who Stan is. Or Ted Shaw. See, exactly. No, Ted Shaw. I remember. Oh, yeah. He was like her boss at the other place.

Yeah. And when they merged, he was her boss back at Sterling Cooper. Got it. Got it. Well, I'm glad you're done. We can all move on with our lives very sadly but you know there's things to be done yeah like like talking about the fact that john cena is a married man oh i'm so upset about this i'm so upset shay sharia sada in florida in a shock to many people but not

really to me so the actor and pro wrestler wed wed his girlfriend Shay at an attorney's office on Monday in Tampa, Florida, according to a marriage certificate obtained by People. The couple, who have been linked since March 2019, obtained a marriage license on Friday, according to the document. Share your thoughts. I'm sharing my thoughts on behalf of Nikki Bella. I think that this is a disgrace. It's like all she wanted. She lowered her bar for him so much. She loved him so much.

He didn't want to get married. She said she wouldn't get married. He didn't want to have kids. She said she wouldn't get kids. And then she's like, you know what? I do want to get married. And literally he couldn't just sign that one piece of paper for her. And now I'm happy for her because she's living her life and she has a baby and she has Artem and she's very happy.

But it stings yeah i mean i i hear what you're saying but as far as we knew like nikki and john were engaged they were going to be married there was a wedding on the books true and not it's not for john's lack of commitment that they didn't get married like there were major issues there definitely centered around like the family component i think that if john and che have a baby like nikki bella will riot shut it down yeah but and and so will i because that's the thing to me that like john cena would never do but i do think that he overcame his fear of marriage with nikki and then he was ready to make that commitment with the next person she really did get him ready she got him ready for the next girl Nikki put in all that effort just so some other woman could reap the benefits I mean that's always how it happens but like this

thing that would shock me is if they have a family together because he is not a family man yeah as far as we know so I'm happy for the two them. Nikki has so much love and happiness in her life. And I think that John bore the brunt of their breakup. And we've all taken Nikki's side. And I think that John deserves happiness as well. And I think he's actually a really nice, funny person. And he seems happy. So I'm going to give it to him.

I was so emotionally invested in their relationship. And specifically breakup and Nikki so far has just been like winning she's like her baby and her man and she's like living her life and I get that you know John Cena deserves happiness too I'm just so firmly team Nikki that it's hard for me to see the other side but you're right he deserves happiness and this is good yeah this is good happy for them know that we are okay next up ariana grande says that she's releasing a new album this month yes her tweet already has a million likes and she's saying i can't wait to give you my album this month now after watching the billboard music awards like where it was all about like ari's thank you next year and she was nominated for so many things but didn't win any because I guess she didn't want to go um it made me like miss this that era of when

like Ariana Grande was just like dropping bangers that were directly related to her personal life yeah literally telling us exactly what's going on with her I feel like there was like a six-month period where Ariana Grande was doing the absolute most at all times like in terms of releasing music award shows like just she was everywhere and also struggling a lot with her mental health. And you and I spoke a lot how we just like wished she would take a break. It's like it's a lot to constantly be touring, releasing music, touring, releasing music. And I feel like she actually has taken a pretty steady break even before quarantine forced us all to go into break mode. She took like a little bit of a break. And I feel like that's really good.

And I feel like she's going to come back like much stronger and healthier and sound of mind. And that's really all we can hope for from our pop stars. It is. And it is interesting how like we wanted Ari to take a nap and take a break. And she was forced to with quarantine. A lot of artists who like were in this cycle of like tour album,

tour album, like have had eight months of some peace and quiet and have probably just been working on new music. And I think that's exactly what she's been doing because like she literally can't not work. Right. And so I'm happy that she probably got some really good naps in, but I'm ready for AG6. Wow. I can't believe it's been six albums already it's crazy not to once again like pit women against other women but I always find it so shocking here we go yeah I always find it so shocking that Selena Gomez is like the biggest you know pop star in the world like most followed when in reality she like doesn't have that much music and her most recent album Rare was her second album and she's been around you know just as long if not longer than ariana grande who's managed to

bang out six albums yeah she's been around longer in like the music scene and so her first album i know we always have this conversation but you're counting like selena gomez on the scene right of course selena gomez in the scene was everything of the sort and that was literally an amazing album who says who says yeah so not perfect so her first album it's very confusing she okay sorry she said three albums apologize okay but what's the second album wolves revival yeah i don't know i can't i i can't um anyways i mean stars dance revival and rare and and um selena gomez in the scene it's not on her wikipedia but does wikipedia include selena gomez and the scene no so now i just googled selena gomez and the scene and they had three albums together kiss and tell a year without rain and when the sun goes down which i

think it's so bizarre that all the fandom is like SG3 or whatever when her new album's coming out, when now it's like, she's had a lot of music. Yeah, so if she had three with them and three alone, she's at SG6, and I think for SG7, she needs to call up the scene, because clearly when she is with them in the studio, the best work comes like kiss and tell. I can't. And I year without rain. She a year. It's just beautiful stuff.

Who says you're not perfect? I can't. And I went. I really went. Yeah. She needs to get the scene back together for S.G.A.T.S. Eight. Yeah.

You know what? Seven. You know what Selena Gomez in the scene reminds me of? Nick Jonas when he first started his solo career. And the administration. And the administration. That's like such an interesting way to brand your band. Not to get political, but I love Nick Jonas and the administration.

Yeah, that was like a funny, weird thing that he did. They were good. I want someone to love me i am that was really good i'm pretty sure i saw him perform um with the admin at the beacon theater when i was a young woman wow you had so many fond experiences as a young woman it was a beautiful night for us and jay fans okay are you ready for our fifth and final story yep because hoda kotb is revealing who the worst today show guest was she was on watch what happens live with andy cohen on wednesday and both hoda and kathy agreed that frank sinatra jr

jr jr was their worst guest on the today show hoda said it was the worst guest we've ever had bar none he came for a book he had a book he was promoting and he didn't want to talk about it so he didn't say anything it was so weird by the way this was that is so funny this was the episode of watch what happens live i was telling you about with lenny kravitz it was such a good episode because hoda is like a friend of Bravo. Like she does this all the time. And I feel like it's actually hard to be a guest with Hoda because her and Andy are like best friends.

She was there promoting her new book. And Andy's like actually in the book. Like they're so close. And I feel like maybe Lenny Kravitz could have felt like an outsider. But Hoda has this energy about her. She's so, maybe that's why she's literally the most successful morning show host, because she's the most welcoming woman in America. Like, she's warm and graceful,

and there's something about her energy that, like, once you, like, you just want to, like, take a nap on her shoulder, you know? And she did a great job. It was a fabulous episode, and she did spill tea. She's not, you would think maybe she's, like, a little maybe, like, shy. Like, she's like a weenie, like a teacher.

Like, she won't give, like, you're all winners, you know, like those winners you know like those types of answers but she for plead the fifth like she really went in that is so funny now of course i want to watch the interview with frank sinatra junior of course and see what a bad guest looks like but i love that she answered this question honestly in any way shape or form because it's a hilarious question and it's a hilarious answer yeah and it's like funny that her and kathy lee like both use that as their one story because they interview like many many celebrities every week and i'm sure there are celebrities who are like rude or difficult to work with or just like not nice and the fact that they both had the same answer must mean he was like a real terror yeah that was just like a bad interview that is so

funny we love an honest queen we really do and not to feel like sound dumb but frank sinatra jr is obviously frank sinatra's son who's his mom nancy sinatra i think nancy sinatra is also his other kid frank let me google i don't know okay frank sinatra kids oh nancy is his daughter and frank sinatra jr is his daughter and there's also a tina frank sinatra jr is his daughter you know what i mean sorry his son tina sinatra and nancy sinatra now who is their mom? Frank Sinatra Jr. Mom? Nancy Barbato. I don't know her.

Okay, so I was half right. He was Frank Sinatra's first wife. Okay. Wow. You learn something new every day. You know. Okay, now it is time for our reality TV recap segment. We both watched, unfortunately, Real Housewives of Orange County last night.

Let's talk about it. Well, you know what? I want to start with two categories. Let's start with the houses, because three out of the, like, five housewives moved into new houses. Gina moved out of the casita and into what appears to be an apartment. It's so small. And she did the most with what she had, but it's a small space. And you know me, I would never judge someone's home, except if you're on a show called Real Housewives that's meant to be aspirational

and you show up with a tiny house. Sorry, I'm going to talk about it. Then Bronwyn moved into a house that from the outside appeared to be very old and ugly and really close to her neighbors. But on the inside, it's 8,000 square feet. It's completely renovated. It has a nightclub, a theater room.

It honestly looks sickening. And they filmed like three times at that house last night's episode. Yeah. So I think that what i'm gathering about this newport beach community which all of a sudden we're the real housewives of newport beach okay cool is that the houses are close to one another like because it's a beach town and like everyone wants to be on the water it's kind of like um kind of gives me like west hampton vibes where it's just like it's being close to your neighbors is how it is I did like

Bronwyn's house I think it's very much her like very fun the inside is very nice and big and I know that you like some nice real estate in your house wives so I thought you would be pleased by that I also really liked Shannon's house I love Shannon's life like yours mine and ours it's the cutest thing and that there's like her man's has a has three kids and there's like one kid for everyone to like be friends with and it's really really cute and I'm really happy for Shannon and her house as well and then also the new housewife Elizabeth has a beach house in Newport yeah but it's only her beach house yes her second it's not her main house so I knew watching it that Claudia was going to be very

happy with the level of money that was procured. I like someone who has not only a nice house, a nice second house, and she appears to have homes all over the world. So the first part of the episode that we got a lot of intel on was the real estate, which I thought was really just fabulous and fascinating. I'm dying to know where Kelly's living because they didn't address it. They didn't film in her house. And she was living in that like apartment, like near Dr. Ryan. Like she had a weird living situation.

So I would like to know where she's at. But then the other element is all these new men. Gina has a new man. Kelly has a new man. Shannon has a new man. And it's just like, where did, where did these women find these men? Like literally in the span of a year, like so much happened. Yeah. I mean, they literally go out every single day to find a new man. Where did these women find these men? Literally in the span of a year, so much happened.

Yeah. I mean, they literally go out every single day to find a new man. And I think it's a really good message. It's like, if you put yourself out there and you want it, you will find love. Yeah, no, it's a fabulous message. Shannon's man is so cute. And you're right. They have such a nice life together.

I feel like we didn't get to know a lot about Gina's man. But he gives me very granola vibes like I just like he definitely loves to camp and I don't know he's definitely not the man I would have picked for myself but I'm happy for her he definitely he definitely loves pentatonix definitely yeah I feel like we didn't get a lot of Gina's man but I don't think you want a lot of Gina's man no I don't really want a lot of anything Gina related I find her intolerable yet again and last season you were like really into her and towards the end I tried to like come around to her but I just feel like she tried so hard to be with the cool girls last year now the cool girls are just gone and that must be like a really big blow for her and I bet I just know she's gonna invest a lot of time in her friendship with Emily and Emily

like really appreciates Gina as a friend so she's gonna let it happen but it's just like I'll never forget that you like tried to ditch your real friends for like the cool girls and then the cool girls left and like you have nothing to do um you know what's funny I did forget like I literally forgot everything that happened last season I forgot like where my allegiances lie all I know is that I typically like ride for Shannon because I think that she deserves like love and happiness um but I literally like my allegiances in this franchise like are so shallow like they're they don't run deep I do not stand I do not ride for anyone like under any circumstances day or night you know so I just like watching going into a new season I'm just like who are these people who do I like how do I feel I have no idea I'm like what even happened last a new season, I'm just like, who are these people? Who do I like?

How do I feel? I have no idea. I'm like, what even happened last season? Like, why is Tamra not there? I literally don't remember. No, I know. I actually, during the day, they were playing like the most recent season up until the premiere on Bravo.

And I watched a little bit of that and some of the reunions. Like, I was kind of well-versed. But it's like, it's not that complicated and it's not that interesting. I actually, though, what I took away from this episode is i actually really like bronwyn i really like someone who's like you know self-aware and can be an introspective and i feel like i don't know have we ever had a completely sober housewife housewife um i feel like probably yeah even sassoon was she sober yeah she was a sober woman remember oh yeah yeah yeah but see she only lasted one season like i don't know it's really not an environment where i feel like sober people can thrive it's actually probably like a really toxic

environment fueled by drinking you have to be an extremely interesting person um because i think the drinking sometimes you drink and then you're automatically interesting. Like, it's just, it's a nice crutch. I think it's going to be tough for her. Me too. I do. Yeah. Oh, we also have, like, Luann Sober.

Yes, but she had so much going on, like, in her personal life that it made up for the fact that, like, she wasn't falling into bushes anymore. Like, even though, like, that's how low our bar our bar is like that's what makes us laugh on housewives but she had all the personal stuff all the legal stuff the stuff with tom like she had enough going on and she did eventually start drinking i think there was only like two or three seasons where she wasn't drinking and yeah the other women were drinking enough that it actually made us appreciate a sober woman yeah i do respect bronwyn and like the end of the episode I thought obviously was the best part of the episode like her um owning up to where she's at I actually also forgot how I completely felt about Bronwyn all I remember is like I just kept saying last season that she

had no backbone yeah I don't remember why I felt like she had no backbone but I also remember that when she came on like she had one of the best like first impressions like before Leah and then like it all kind of went downhill like she came on and she was automatically friended by everyone and then like things turned and you telling me that like I love Gina like I do yes Jackie you were riding or dying I believe I believe you but like I literally I have no recollection yeah I think part of Bronwyn's backbone situation was that she came in and she met, like, the cool girls. Like, she met, like, Kelly, Shan, and Tamara first, and they all started a friendship off from there. And then when the group became divided, Bronwyn chose a side that I think she thought was, like, morally correct. She chose, like, the Kelly and Emily couch.

And then she was just, like, wishy-washy. And then, remember, on the double-decker bus, she like started crying. Oh my God, stop. Yeah, no, it's all coming back to me. So like, yeah, last night's episode was all about like trying to remember the unmemorable season before.

100%, 100%. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, if I'm being very, very honest. I just like, I'm just not in the mood. I can't explain it. I like the new girl though. I do like the'm just not in the mood I can't explain it I like the new girl though I do like the new girl too what an interesting life she's led I looked up her husband worth 200 million she did say he was a billionaire and google says he's net worth of 200

million so whatever was still a lot of money I'm just saying it's not a billion dollars um but she definitely has good energy I love a rich woman. She doesn't, she, and her professional life is also very interesting. I hadn't heard of that streaming service, but I'm sure in the tech world it's like something prestigious. And she's going to sell it, but she has to wait for her divorce to go through. And she's not having sex with her boyfriend until her divorce goes through. It's really interesting. It is interesting. And she seems like she also has a great personality to boot, like a big personality.

Gives me like Kelly Dodd vibes. So I am here for it. I really am. And Kelly Dodd, you know, at the very beginning of her journey here on Real Housewives of Orange County, I really liked her when everyone hated her. Like when they went to Dublin and Shannon tried to like, you know, coerce her into getting more drinks, I really felt like they were gaslighting her. And I really, I really liked her and it's been a really difficult journey

to be a Kelly Dodd fan because she's always letting you down like she can never just like take the high road or be mature or like say the right thing and honestly I'm I'm kind of done with her oh I feel like I don't remember what she did last season i don't remember if i like her or don't like her so i it was the jim bellino stuff oh yeah but they were so mean to kelly last season i don't know i i i'm giving everyone really a clean me too because i because i can't remember yeah and because vicky and tamra have left and they were the ones who had, like, the most history with everyone. And I actually really felt like, without them, there was, like, a fresh, rejuvenized energy to the show,

and I didn't miss them at all. You make a whole lot of history. We could be the greatest thing that the world has ever seen. So yeah, it was fine. Other than that, I watched Mad Men last night. I finished it and I already spoke about that. Anything you want to recap? Nope, that's all for me.

I got to start reading again. I have like so many books on my docket. And so I think that's where I'll be for the rest of the weekend until we see you on Monday. And I'm looking forward to getting back in studio so that our songs and our singing is more important. Agreed. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Morning Toast.

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