The Toast - S3 Ep184: Mrs. Hat and The Heartbreak Claud: Monday, November 9th, 2020

Episode Date: November 9, 2020

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome to the Morning Toast! Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to the Morning Toast! Bum, bum! You know it's going to be a good show when we kick off with that jingle. Yes, I mean, it is an unseasonably warm day here in New York, and it's very confusing for the wardrobe and for the swamp ass. It's just not ideal, but yet here we are, Monday, coming off a big weekend. Me and Ben were in a taxi and people started screaming. And when you live in New York, you've learned to just like ignore. That's just a part of the culture.

A day in the life. People just yell, especially in the past eight months. It's been a tough time for New York. People are just screaming about shit. So I didn't think anything of it. But then it really started honking everyone. So I'm like, what is going on? I check my phone and I forget,

I think it was like Pop Crave, like a really random Twitter account said, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris projected as winners of the 2020 election. And it was just craziness in New York. People were like dancing on the rooms all weekend. The weather has been amazing all weekend. Yeah. And I don't know, first of all, anyone else feel this like huge wave of relief, just like that the election's over? I feel like it was making people really tense. Oh, for sure. And it's historic, obviously. Kamala Harris is the first female vice president, and she's a woman of color.

So I feel like no matter where you lay on the political spectrum, that's a really big deal. Yeah, we love making history. We do. And it's been a very polarizing election cycle. I think everyone can agree. On top of an already divisive year. But here at The Toast, we seek to unite. You know, we are not red and blue.

We are pink and green. And that's what we're going to do today. United we toast, as always. And, you know, the first thing I think we should talk about as a united front is, you know, kind of the elephant in the room, which is your hat. Right. Because I don't want to divide people further. No. And I feel divided right now.

Right. I feel like we're on two different sides of this coin. Well, let me just say, Jackie put a poll on her Instagram. Like and I I feel divided right now. Right I feel like we're on two different sides of this coin. Well let me just say Jackie put a poll on her Instagram like should I wear this hat and like we do the show indoors and I guess like we've just never thought of like a hat as a part of our everyday costume. Yeah so I just want to like talk through the hat experience for a second. So I put on um this white button down today leggings and boots like not super funky for me or fun. But now being a new dog mom, I have like less time to try on a million things, like throw them around my

apartment. I know. Because little Bruno is gonna chomp at the bit. So my outfit was rather boring. And I've sort of been wanting to like wear hats on this show. One, you got me a beautiful hat for my birthday. A sickening hat. And if I don't wear it on the show, I have nowhere to wear it. I don't go anywhere else. I don't do anything else. So I really want to like normalize wearing hats on the show. I feel like this hat really just compliments this like hunter-y vibe outfit. The only issue is, is that it's unseasonably warm. It's so hot in here, like the sun shines directly into the studio at the hour that we record. And like my head is on fire. Yeah.

But I'm going to commit to the hat. And the majority did rule in favor of the hat, though Claudia voted no. She put a poll on her Instagram story. And can I just say, you like took that video from like a really unflattering angle. I did? And I was like, this hat looks so bizarre because I've seen you in that hat. And then when you showed up today and we walked into the building at the same time, I'm like, oh, the hat looks good.

Oh my God. I thought I looked like really cute and snatched in the video. I guess I'll have to rethink myself. Yeah. But I think you look great. We had a great weekend celebrating your birthday. I know. I can't believe my birthday was on Friday. That feels like forever ago. We had such a good time. As predicted, the nibbling energy radiated. It was fiery. It radiated throughout the globe. The dynamic between the three puppers like it was really so Bruno and Theo got to spend a lot of the day together and it was very much it was their first time meeting was very much like a big brother little brother energy like everything Theo did Bruno copied. It was so sweet. Then we got Knowles in the mix and honestly it was a little bit of a two-on-one like sniffing party. It was a sniff fest. It was a butt sniffing fest. Jackie

had a butt sniffing party and everyone had an amazing time. Everyone had an amazing party. It was a sniff fest. It was a butt sniffing fest. Jackie had a butt sniffing party and everyone had an amazing time. Everyone had an amazing time. It was honestly such a great birthday. Just like getting we haven't all been together and like getting all the nibblings together and just being seeing Mikayla like it was just like a really honestly like ideal COVID birthday but also just like a nice ideal birthday period. A hundred percent. That's really how I felt. I got amazing gifts from everyone. It has restored my faith and my love in material items. And maybe that's why I wore this hat today because like, I'm just like, oh my gosh, I have all these material items. Like I should wear them.

Right. So soon I'll be sitting here with a purse too. Like the Queen of England. Honestly, I got like a purse that matches this hat exactly. I should have, that would be hysterical. Yeah. I think that's what I have to do because otherwise my purses are just sitting there rotting. I'm going to start sitting with a purse on the show that matches my outfit. Yeah. I've really stopped in like the times of COVID. I've stopped like leaving the house with a purse because all I really need is my mask to go to work.

And I just feel like every time I leave the house, like I put so much wear and tear on my purses when it's like a purse only has so long of a shelf life. And the more I wear it, the shorter until it dies. Yes, I totally agree. And so I think I'm onto something here. Stay tuned for that. And it's just another reason why you should be watching the YouTube. To see my fabulous hat. Yeah, and Theo.

Maybe a purse tomorrow or maybe little Bruno tomorrow. He will be making an appearance this week. He'll be making an appearance this week. I have to fit it into his schedule. His schedule is just, it's so difficult to coordinate. Of course. You know, not even because he's so busy. Just because like, I don't know. He's regimented. I don't know what I'm supposed to be schedule. His schedule is just, it's so difficult to coordinate. Of course. You know, not even because he's so busy

just because like, I don't know. He's regimented. I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. I know. It's really hard. Yeah.

He's all over the place but he's the cutest, sweetest thing so it's like worth cleaning up literal diarrhea. Do you clean it up or does Zach? Actually,

Zach does and he's my hero because of it. 100%. We like tag team it but he always gets whatever the worst job is, he's doing it.

Well, that's what husbands are for. Yeah. No, it's really wonderful. So aside from celebrating you this weekend, I really did not do much. I watched a lot of TV. Glad to hear it. I just really focused on you, you know?

Thank you. That's how it should be every day. I spent the majority of the weekend watching Filthy Rich, which is something we've spoken about wanting to watch. It is the Kim Cattrall show about, she basically runs a megachurch and all the talk about Carl Lentz last week like really just motivated me to watch it and there's sometimes like a show has a title and a

main character and that's all I need to know it's just the vibe for me 100 percent um and I was we weren't wrong there was only six episodes I was like so annoyed when I tried to go to the next episode and it was like over. But it's still airing now on FX, I think. And it's just so good. It's like a, it's really dynasty, but like more Southern and more religious. Yeah. It's very, very good.

It has that like dynasty glamorous feel, which is always what we're looking for in a show. If you seek out that vibe along with us, Filthy Rich, like no questions asked. The script is also really good. I have some issues with some of like the character developments and the storylines and I'm like, wait, what? But other than I, I can put it all aside because it's just fabulous. It reminds me of GCB, which is a show that was unfairly canceled after one season due to my enormous love for it. And that'll, oh my God, I shouldn't say speak too highly of Filthy Rich or it'll be gone. It'll be gone. The one thing I do have to say about it, which it reminds me of Dynasty in a negative way, it's like so overly dramatized, such a soap opera,

that like it's so unrealistic. Like how people just like switch sides so quickly and it's like everything's always at stake. And that's the only thing where it's like I could see myself getting annoyed with the show. But right now it's like finally giving me something to do. And Kim Cattrall is very good. And she's one of those actresses who is burned in our memories so acutely as a character

that she got famous off of. Right, the mom from Ice Princess. Of course. Sometimes it's to her detriment because you can't see her as anything other than like Samantha Jones. But I think she actually did a good job of like getting away from Samantha Jones in this role. Oh, you know, I really didn't think about her at all.

She does an amazing job of like being this person, Margaret Monroe. And she's a very complex character like I'm loving her character because in the beginning you think she's going to be one of these women who like wields her faith to make the make God bend to her will and make people like do things for her in the name of the Lord right and it's she's more complex than that 100 A hundred percent. She really is. And I really think that she is truly like a God-fearing, faithful woman who wants to do right. And, and I love to see that. Yeah, me too. No, it's really, um, I've just been getting into like Christian stuff these weeks and

it's fine. Like I love Filthy Rich. Yeah. And by the way, I love Jesus. There's also, I feel like there's not many or any shows that are set in Louisiana. And I feel like just it being in New Orleans and like the Mardi Gras element of it and just like Louisiana like being like a major theme in the show is actually really interesting. And I like that it's filmed there.

You know, that's how I felt about one of those movies on Netflix with Sabrina Carpenter. Maybe it was... Tall Girl? Yes. Yeah. That's where it was set. And it was... It was Louisiana.

Yeah. Yeah. It was like a whole nother element to the show. The homes were so beautiful. The homes, the food, it was. It was Louisiana, yeah. Yeah, it was like a whole nother element to the show. The homes were so beautiful. The homes, the food, the culture. It was really, really great. Tall Girl. Tall Girl.

There was so many random movies like that. That was a weird one. That one and Sierra Burgess is a Loser were probably, you know what? I'm not going to disgrace Tall Girl with being compared to Sierra Burgess. Because that movie was really bad. Yeah. Like really bad. Yeah, you really didn't like that one.

I mean, these are like movies you only watch once. Yeah, of course. like that one. I mean it's those these are like movies you only watch once. Yeah of course no I never need to see Tall Girl ever again in my life ever ever ever. Like ever again. Yeah no I I concur. Another thing that really kept me up all weekend was this cookie I've been following. Are you aware of the cookie? So I found out about this cookie from you and I saw how invested you were and I figured as like your sister friend confidant like I owed it to myself and to you to watch to look into the cookie and what did you think I thought it was awesome yeah right okay so there's this girl on TikTok who like literally the day before election day baked this huge map a cookie of America and she traced out every state and she was going to fill in with frosting each state that went red and each

state that went blue and each state that went blue. And of course, everyone knows we've been stalled on like the last six states for like five days now. And it's infuriating because the cookie is like 97% full and there's like certain states that are just like blank beige cookie. I'm just like worried about the cookie because like things have taken a turn. Florida cracked off. She had to like stitch it back together.

And now it's like the cookie's going to go stale. By the time we get like all the mail-in ballots like the cookie will be rotten the cookie will have mold on it I hope she's keeping it in like a freeze-dried I don't think she is because I followed her um on TikTok and she made this TikTok of like when Pennsylvania got called she was like running through her house nobody knew it was gonna get called she's like running through her house to get to the cookie and the cookie's just sitting on her dining room table with all the supplies like like a puzzle yeah like a puzzle exactly that's really funny i'm really worried okay well we'll keep tabs on it but speaking of cookies i

got the most amazing cookies for my birthday from where the ones of the nibblings oh sorry sorry yes funny face bakery funny face bakery zach got me these custom cookies with like me and sax face the toast logo redheads and all of the nibblings faces. So Theo, Magnolia, Bruno, and Kaler. Well, I put it on my story and a lot of people, because we've never seen what Kaler looks like, a lot of people thought that baby was an announcement. So is there something you have to say today? No, what I have to say is the cookie was Kaler. If I were to announce, like I would never in my life, if I were pregnant, like make a fusion cookie of my face and Zach's face of what our baby would look like like yeah that's just not who I am some

people thought it was American Camper the cookie I mean in some ways it was in some in in so many ways Kayla is the American Camper yeah and so I just embodiment of of campers and Americans united what's so crazy is I got so many amazing presents like every single person hit it out of the park but like those cookies meant so much to me. No I know it was because whoever got those for you and it was Zach like just really knows you and like what's important to you and like the sentimental like you really are very materialistic but you're also incredibly sentimental like those cookies represented like that side of you. No and like now he's like what do you want to do with the cookies and I'm like well we have to keep them forever like get them in the frame and I I'm like, your gift was too good.

And I'm never getting rid of the cookies. I put mine in the freezer. Did you? No, I have to. But you know, I'm like, I just do everything so slowly and last minute. Like that's just a fun fact about me. We also, by the way, we have so much to do today because we didn't have a show on Friday because of your birthday.

We didn't get a chance to recap the really groundbreaking episode of The Bachelorette. Do you ever think you would say that? No. Not since, honestly, like, Caitlin Bristow season did I think, like, I would think that. So we will be recapping that and Real Housewives of Potomac was on last night. And we have lots to say about both of them, including the Fast Five, which is full of stories. Full of stories that were designed to break Claudia's heart. Today is the episode that breaks Claudia's heart.

Yeah, I agree. And so without further ado, I think we should just get into the fast-ass stories that'll break Claudia's heart that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. And that's true. But if I might just get out of my soapbox for one minute and let everyone know really importantly

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Better. First story. Alex Trebek, the legendary host of Jeopardy, has died at the age of 80. Jeopardy host Alex Trebek, who educated and entertained millions on the beloved quiz show, has died following his battle with stage four pancreatic cancer, the show said on Sunday. Jeopardy is saddened to share that Alex Trebek passed away peacefully at home early this morning, surrounded by family and friends. Thank you, Alex.

Also, his final Jeopardy... is set to air on Christmas Day. Right, they have episodes pre-taped, so people, I think, were nervous that it was just over. Yeah, but I think it's beautiful that the last one won't be on Christmas, a parting gift. So I just have to warn everyone, I definitely will cry because I cried all day yesterday when I found out and I was really hit like hard. And I did a lot of soul searching as to why I think it upset me so much. And I think it upset people around the world. Like people took it really hard.

And you know, he's 80 years old. It's not uncommon for an 80 year old to pass away, but something about this felt different. For sure. And he like lived an incredibly full and beautiful life. So here's what it's boiled down to. I think there's, it's multifaceted why America has been hit by this news so hard. The first is that I think a lot of people relate to pancreatic cancer, it being just like a really devastating disease. Like I was talking to Heather McMahon

and that's how her father passed away. And I just think like people who have experiences with pancreatic cancer, like know how painful it is. And I think a lot of people just related to that element of his death. I think on a larger scale, like why we all feel so sad about this and sentimental is like Jeopardy's been on for what, like 35 years? And Alex Trebek has hosted it the entire time.

And I think that people relate Jeopardy to like certain phases of their life. Like, oh, I watched with my grandpa. I sat on his lap. There's like a family member or nostalgic memory that you connect back to Jeopardy because it's just always been on like it's never not been on and I think a lot of people relate like to their childhood or family members or certain people in their life who are no longer here and they relate Jeopardy to that yeah and it's just like always been this like stable constant thing where it's like the world is so unreliable at times but Jeopardy just like

has always been there and it's like it's a warm feeling to know like that no matter what like Jeopardy is on you know yeah and then the third thing that I think like I took really hard and I was literally saying this last week is like I recently added Jeopardy like into my everyday routine and it's just been like this nice stable thing and Alex Trebek is like this like leader in a way like he's just very he's like a man of integrity and this has been a tough year for everyone for a multitude of reasons and I think everyone can feel like we as a country are so divided and like people just like hate each other right now and they can't agree on anything but like I think we can all agree that like Jeopardy is a great show and Alex Trebek was like a man of integrity

and he was there for us and he was just like well respected by everyone not not people in academics or people in entertainment but just like literally everyone on the planet had respect for Alex Trebek and that's just like a nice thing that like we can all agree on that and I don't know why it just like hit me so hard but I don't know and I'm trying to find like people die and it's sad but like why was I so upset and I think that's why I think trying to find, like, people die and it's sad. But, like, why was I so upset? And I think that's why. I think that, like, it's been a hard year. And Alex Trebek has just been there for us.

Yeah. He's, like, one of, Jeopardy is one of these things. He's one of these people who just sort of, like, anchor us. Yeah. And it's, like, then when you look at his career, it's, like, he got so famous. And he probably has a ton of money. And he's been married to the same woman for 35 years. And, like, you just don't find that.

Because, like I said, Alex Trebek was a man of integrity. Yeah. And I just think we have so few people like that. And he should be remembered for all of those things. And his respect for academia. I agree. And it's interesting because, you know, if a week ago you had asked us, like, what are the things that, like, we can all agree on

or who are people that everybody, who are universally beloved? Like, I honestly wouldn't have thought of Jeopardy being like this universally loved thing but that's exactly what it is. And that's exactly why you don't think of it as this universally beloved thing because it's so reliable. It's a constant. And there's just nothing these days that's reliable. Like you can't rely on anyone or anything but now that it's gone we realize that we can rely on Jeopardy and we could rely on Alex Trebek and it's very upsetting it's really really and I was like crying and I'm like why am I crying so I did some you know introspective searching and I was like this is why and I think there's good reason now obviously everyone is all like who is going

to replace him who's going to replace him who's going to replace him and whoever does replace him has the absolute hardest job in the world but um a lot of people are saying it's going to be ken jennings oh i would love that who is like the he has won the most amount of jeopardy you know on jeopardy if you win you come back the next day and like some people get to go and then if you win that one you come back the next day so some people have been like five six seven eight ken jennings won 75 in a row um he's won like over five million dollars from Jeopardy like the game shows the all-star rounds he wrote a book so honestly he's really really smart yes I feel like he has the ties to Jeopardy but does he have the

hosting chops like it's not just about being able to read off the teleprompter though it's like that warmth that Alex Trebek exudes into your home and actually that part like can't be no that's true I don't know I mean those are just that's the only name I saw being like floated around I don't know who else I mean honestly like Scott Rogowski okay so I've been waiting to bring up the h2 of it all because I feel like that was the only time in recent history where like the power of jeopardy was in jeopardy like everyone's saying Scott he was quizzy Trebek like he was the only person who was like is he gonna be the next Alex Trebek that did not happen no and we actually had him on the show when we were on the morning breath and I think that he's a great host but exactly what you said Ken Jennings doesn't have like that warm welcome people into your home spirit he definitely

doesn't have like he got so famous so fast. And I just remember meeting him and being like, oh, it all went to his head. Like, he was a little bit of a dick. Like, he was like, oh, are you guys nervous to, like, be interviewing me? I'm like, no, you're literally, like, a host, like us, like on an internet show. Like, get over it. Like, he was just like a little bit of a dick. And that's what separated Alex Trebek.

None of it ever got to his head. Like like he was always this humble man of honor and that's so rare and I don't know how we replicate it but I don't think Jeopardy as a show should end like it's an iconic no and I don't think that's what Alex would want no me neither but I do wonder if he knew that he was gonna pass away and maybe like left us a message at the last episode like I'm really hoping for that even though like he really does not get personal on the show like it's really all about the contestants interesting I feel like there might be something we'll have to stay tuned yeah well I will literally be watching every episode now until Christmas because and then you can start from the beginning like 20 seasons yeah it's just like I'm really upset and I just wanted to give a voice to people who I know are like so upset.

Like who used to watch with their grandma. And like the show and Alex, it symbolizes so much more than like entertainment. It symbolizes like, it's the backbone of American entertainment. It really is. And Alex Trebek was the man. Like he was the guy. And I'm really, really upset by it. Like cried to like literally all day.

Like Ben got home from golf and he was like, how was your day? I'm like, it was literally horrible. And I'm like so upset about Alex Trebek dying. He's like, yeah upset by it. Like, cried to, like, literally all day. Like, Ben got home from golf, and he was like, how was your day? I'm like, it was literally horrible, and I'm, like, so upset about Alex Trebek dying. He's like, yeah, me too. And then I started breaking down. He's like, oh, you're, like, actually upset. I'm like, no, no, I'm devastated. And I just, I'm really upset. Like, I can't say anything other than that.

Like, I'm devastated. I'm heartbroken. I'm sorry. It's okay. Maybe you should be the host of Jeopardy. I think in order to be the host of Jeopardy. I think in order to be the host of Jeopardy, you can't be a dumb bitch. So unfortunately, that puts me out of the running. Maybe I should be the host of Jeopardy. Definitely. I think I have that warmth. What is Jackie O? I feel like this hat

would just kill it on Jeopardy. Yeah. The viewers would love that. They would love it. They would love it. Okay, next story. Switching gears a bit, because some drama at Dancing with the Stars that's like full of inferences, but Gleb Savchenko, who is a Dancing with the Stars pro, who was just partnered with Chrishell Staus, he is splitting from his wife, Elena. And now Elena is accusing the star of ongoing infidelity. So I just want to say, like,

I did put this out into the ether when I recapped the first episode of Dancing with the Stars because every season Gleb gets paired up with like a young hot thing and I'm like everyone's shipping them and then you remember he has this wife who like we never see like ever. But he's always paired with someone who you would like ship him with and then that never happens. Right but I do believe I did say a few weeks ago that like I could see like this being the one that takes the marriage down. And I just want credit for, like, literally being psychic. Okay, but it's not confirmed if the two of them had an affair.

No, and Crochelle did speak out, being like, stop making things up. Okay, well, Elena Samodonova is speaking out following her split from her husband and Dancing with the Stars pro, Gleb Savchenko. She tells people that her trust in the professional dancer has been irrevocably broken and is accusing him of ongoing infidelity. After 14 years of marriage and multiple affairs, I've decided enough is enough. Gleb and I have created a family and multiple businesses together, but apparently it just wasn't enough to keep our marriage strong, she tells people. Gleb's ongoing infidelity and a recent inappropriate relationship has created turmoil in our marriage and absolutely torn our family apart. She said that he has been seeing another

woman recently. Okay, so there's so much like to glean from this, but I feel like she's like taking us, she's pointing us in the direction of, look at Chrishell and his past dancing partners. Right, so like every single person you shipped him with was an affair. No, of course. I feel like she's trying to say that. And I think that she was very intentional in her language because without explicitly saying like, this is what happened, she was, she did paint quite a picture.

Yeah. And I kind of love that she's like not protecting him. Like, like if you're going to cheat on your wife, like everyone should know, like you're that type of guy. And I like love that she's really not holding back, which means she's like really, really yeah and the fact that it you know

it's there have been other affairs I just feel like she's airing it all she's mentioning it all well honestly like if I was ever on Dancing with the Stars like I would want Gleb to be my partner because he really is like so handsome like not just hot like he's a mature handsome gentleman well how mature if he's cheating on no no I'm just talking about looks wise like just I would want to dance with him like just you know gyrate all the things so I can I can see how like it's very tough to be married to that person who's constantly being hooked up with Erika Jayne and like it's like everyone yeah who's being bodies pressed up. Yeah, and then like holding each other a little too tight

when you're being judged where it's like you don't. That's always the craziest part about Dancing With The Stars the way that they squeeze each other when they're getting their judging. When they're done, when they're not supposed to be touching. Everyone, not just Gleb and his partner, every couple. They squeeze each other so hard, I'm like, ow. Yeah, no, and it's like you can really tell when there's vibe

because there's been a lot of couples that have come from the show. Nicky and Artem. Right, and there is like you can really tell when there's vibe. Because there's been a lot of couples that have come from the show. Nicky and Artem. Right, and there is like that. Robert Herjavec. Right. There is like that energy. I think like when you're in Dancing with the Stars, you're secluded because you all live in this apartment complex.

And it's just like work, dance, work, dance. And it's your whole life. And it's kind of like The Bachelor. It's like this heightened sense of like emotion. And I think it's like an easy place to fall in love. Yeah. Especially when everyone is like young and good looking. But Chrishell is saying this isn't about her. Yeah but uh the statement from Glubb's ex-wife like truly uh says otherwise. Christine Quinn was in my dream last night. She is just killing it. I know she's like the cover of Harper's Bazaar. Cosmo. Yeah. She's like shooting everything good for her. I

guess we should be expecting a new season of Selling Sunset relatively soon. Yeah, I feel like they're filming now. But I always say that about every show. Yeah. Oh, I don't think we ever really spoke about how, what's her name? Davina? Yeah. She's not coming back.

That makes sense. Like every season that I watched when she was like back on the screen, I was like, oh. Oh, this girl. I feel like she was never even a cast member. She just was still working there. No, and she like made a little bit of an impact at the end of this season so if there was ever for a time for her to like not leave it would be now yeah but maybe she couldn't handle like she got so much negative like feedback people just really were upset with her and did not like her and she was like the butt of like all these memes and that's

like really fucking hard to take right but also I feel like she was barely on the show the only time she was on was like negative stuff everyone Everyone else, it's like, okay, you're being bitchy. But like we also see like great sides of you. So you get a little bit of both. But she only had like the times she was talking shit. Yeah. Moist tonight. That's true.

Moist tonight. Yeah. Well, that was reminding me of Robin Dixon. Yes. Hers wasn't moist tonight. It was like moin tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is like better.

Yes. But not great. But speaking of infidelity fired hillsong church pastor carl i think we need to say in speaking of other things claudia very accurately predicted yes carl lens is admitting that he cheated on his wife a day after it was revealed that celebrity pastor carl lens was fired from the star-studded hillsong for leadership issues and breaches of trust the specifics of his moral failures have come to light he cheated on his wife he said quote I was unfaithful in my marriage the most important

relationship in my life and held accountable for that this failure is on me and me alone and I take full responsibility for my actions I now begin a journey of rebuilding trust with my wife Laura and my children and taking real time to work on and heal my own life and seek out the help that I need. So I get that he feels like he owes an explanation to his community but something about this just strikes me in a weird way because at the end of the day like you cheating on your wife although deplorable like is your personal business and like when your job is a man of faith a man of faith and like your person like it's the personal is the professional is the religious is the spiritual. Those things matter. Yeah. It just feels like he's literally apologizing like forgetting a DUI, which like you do owe people an apology for, but like in your marriage,

like you owe your wife an apology. I get like, I get it. I do. But things like this just like feel weird to me when you feel the need to explain to the public like why why you did something in your personal life you know I agree with you in general but not in this situation because like as a spiritual leader your actions like in your personal life matter of course and so I just I can't believe that he like just told us straight up I know I thought we were wondering that like what you heard exactly was true and a moral failure is a euphemism for keeping your wife right well now we know now we know you know church speak yes now we do and now with watching filthy rich we'll know more right no totally it's so good and it's so just like intertwined I actually was out to dinner with a few friends like two nights ago and I was just like wanting to gossip about like Hillsong and like Carol Lenz and like nobody knew

what the fuck I was talking about and I was like trying to explain to them like mega churches and just like this and like nobody knew or like wanted to gossip with me and it was really really hard and I needed you there I'm sorry but that's why we have this yes okay I have to apologize again because the next story is I know is going to break you down I know what it is and I just want you to be very delicate delicateicate. Delicate in your delivering. I will. Because this is not my day. Bachelor Nation's Derek Peth is engaged to Saffron Badher

after finally years of realizing that Claudia Aschere is married, she's going to stay married, and that they have no actual future together. So he has decided to move on with someone else. You know what? What makes this so painful is like, I just really thought he would move on with someone else you know what what makes this so painful is like i just really thought he would wait for me forever you know yeah i mean you can't expect that from someone no it's unreasonable i know that but it doesn't make it any less painful yeah the bachelorette and bachelor in paradise alum proposed to his girlfriend model saffron

that her on november 8th he posted an instagram video of her showing off her new sparkling ring he also tweeted she said yes while neither have said anything further about their engagement the well wishes have poured in for the reality star and the British Vogue cover girl oh that must hurt no what makes it all the more painful is that she's this like beautiful stunning and smart stunning woman and like she seems to be like, you know, cosmopolitan and educated. And like, there's literally, you know, nothing bad I can say about her. And I want to. Yeah.

And that's really the hardest part. Yeah. Well, she looks like you, so. You know what? I actually agree. Yeah. But like, you know, way more beautiful. But it's fine.

Well, your feelings aside, I'm really happy for Derek. Me too. He is someone who has been in the franchise for a really long time and that's when you see someone's true colors and I think that he is a precious gem he's always been a good guy he's always been very nice and I'm very happy for him even like on all of his stints in the shows like all he really you could tell like his intentions were pure and like all he wanted was love and I'm so glad that he found that me too I agree like he's time after time eventually like you see who people are like whether it's on paradise or and I just felt like every time he was

like being sent home brokenhearted like I think Jojo sent him home really prematurely I was really shocked then he got caught up in this like Tayshia Demi whatever situation where it's like he just couldn't get his couldn't land on his feet and now I feel like he has like a nice future with a nice girl. And I really am like really, really happy for him. I had, I was going to text him like congrats, but like it honestly felt weird. Because like all I do is like joke about how like we're in love. Because you are a whale. I thought it would be like really inappropriate.

But just know Derek, like I'm sending you so much love. That's beautiful. Claudia, that's beautiful. That's part of being an adult growing up. You know, you just got to accept that things are what they are. Yeah. It is what it is. It is what it is.

Fifth and final story. Does it make it any less devastating? No, I know. And we're here for you. I know. All of us, right? And I know that everyone thought of me when they heard the news, and that did make me laugh.

So, thank you. Okay, fifth and final story. Scott Disick, 37, and Amelia Hamlin, 19, have dinner together. This is really shady. I mean, I've been seeing, you know, pictures that never exclusively of them two, but them being paparazzi in and out of the same restaurant for five minutes. So there's been a lot of, like, grumblings about whether they're together. I don't know if this is a confirmation.

I don't, like, it's still not a confirmation. I don't, like it's still not a confirmation, but you know, it's a where there's smoke, there's fire situation. And so unless they're like collabing on something for Talentless or, you know, dropping a song together, like I don't know why they're going to dinner so much, but they're continuing to spark rumors

by having dinner with each other on Saturday night, a week after they raised eyebrows by arriving at Kendall Jenner's Halloween birthday party together. They both shared pictures on their Instagram stories of their pasta heavy meal at Trey Lunet restaurant in Montecito, California. I mean, I just know that like Lisa Rinna is in the backyard bowing to God, thanking him so much. Like, please let this relationship work. Please let me be a Kardashian affiliate. Like she has a full shrine

in her closet and she is just praying to God on her knees every night bowing to her head please dear God let this work let this work let my Amelia become a Kardashian like I just I just know that that's the kind of woman she is so for her sake I really want this to work out just so she you know maybe so she can have some joy okay I just want to say like I went on the record I'm really not here for this like first of all the age difference is wild it's not okay and I feel like after literal a year of him dating Sophia we all sort of were just like okay I guess you know age has no number love has no age or whatever and also Sophia's three years older than Amelia okay um I just I think and now

having dated someone so young before now young again like I just I really don't I'm no it's it is really creepy 19 and 37 yeah no 19 is really young Hollywood really normalizes a lot of things um that they shouldn't and I don't I don't want to be a part of this one so I mean if they are together for years and get married like eventually I will build my ship and I will set sail. It took us a while to get on the Sophia ship, too. It took us, like, almost a year of them being in a real committed relationship for us to say, like, oh, okay, maybe, you know, age. This is true love.

You know, souls have no age. Yeah, and I do think for the most part, like, that is true. But when someone time and time again is, like, only dating, like, children, it's weird. Yeah. I agree. And maybe in a and time again is like only dating like children, it's weird. Yeah. I agree. And maybe in a year from now, if they're still together, like I would feel so differently and I'd look back on this and be like, I see what you were saying, but they're really in love.

But it's eyebrow raising and we would be remiss if we didn't bring up like how strange it is. And if the ages and genders were reversed, that would be the first thing everyone would be saying. Oh my God, of course. Like, and they would be like, it's gross. Right. This is just, it's something to think about.

Yeah. Because it is borderline inappropriate. I hope that it's not a romantic thing. I hope they're collabing on something exciting for the customers. I mean, she is so the type of girl who would be a model for Talentless. For sure. So maybe it's something exciting for the customers. But I don't know if Scott takes all the models for Talentless out to dinner and then to his sister-in-law's customers. But I don't know if Scott, you know, takes all the models for Talentless out to dinner

and then to his sister-in-law's birthday party. I don't know. Maybe he's that kind of boss. Maybe. That's true. I don't know what type of boss he is, but I'm just not seeing it. Okay.

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Chris Harrison went in, helped her. Now, say what you want about whether you think this is too fast or she's being irrational, which is what some people are saying. To me, the problem I really had with Claire this episode was she was just like a little too unapologetic to everyone like and I get that you're here for you and you're so set on finding the man of your dreams but I do think it's worth mentioning that she literally did not apologize to anyone like we could talk about the guys but even when she was talking to Chris Harrison like she wasn't like sorry like yeah I fucked up she

was like this is what I want and I just felt like she took, like, literally no responsibility for, like, fucking the whole thing up. Well, don't you know she won't apologize for love? No, and by the way, and I get that. But you can apologize to the people whose lives you made difficult. Production. Yeah, well, she did wind up saying that to the guys. Like, sorry if I wasted her time. She only said that after the guy was like, can you apologize to us? us yeah and so I just felt like that's where I was most upset I'm not going

to judge her do I think it's too fast yet do I think they're gonna last forever no but I love that she's hopeful and that's great and wonderful and great whatever yeah what bothered me what I'm gonna be upset with her about is like her unwillingness to like apologize to all these people for fucking the whole thing up yeah I mean yes for me it's like I understand she's in a tough spot she only has eyes for death and she can't like even fake it with the other guys but like I don't know I just I don't think it bodes well for the rest of their relationship and I really I understand when they got engaged but I don't think that part bodes well for the rest of their relationship either they should have left together and started a relationship but then like the bachelor doesn't get what the

bachelor needs and also they want to be engaged and get the ring etc but now it's just like they're engaged after literally less than two weeks of knowing each other and that's not a recipe for success no and of course you know every now and then you know Claire was telling us her parents met once and they've been married for 40 years like there are situations like that they don't really happen on The Bachelor if I'm being real realistic um but I agree like The Bachelor having this thing where like if you're leaving here you have to be engaged it's ruined many a relationship Cassie and Colton like it was like a whole thing Rachel and Peter remember it's like sometimes the engagement is what ruins a perfectly good relationship and I don't when Dale when they told Dale that he was gonna have to get engaged and I don't think he thought because of course

why would I have to get engaged to someone I met two weeks ago he was shook and I do think they edited it to make us think like is this gonna happen is he gonna get down is he gonna bounce and then like when they're finally proposing Chris Harrison comes out and he's like I just want to let you know we're so proud of you and it's like Dale's supposed to be coming out like they were trying to fuck with us yeah I thought it was really nice of Chris Harrison to say that because clearly you know it must be a really big deal deal for her to do that to the show and she's trusting her gut and just I think in general when someone says that they're proud of you and with someone that you respect like it means the world and when you're doing something like kind of crazy yeah and so I was happy for

her that she got that I just don't it doesn't signal like the fact that she couldn't even compartmentalize her feelings for a day i'll realize this might just be lust let me see everything else that's out there so when i do make my decision i know for sure that i made the right one i've exhausted every option and the fact that she couldn't like even do that see past her lust or love or you know googly eyes infatuation yeah is immature yeah no I completely agree you know like ask anyone who's been a lead there are people in the beginning who you just vibe with but I also think that the way that the show normally is where you're whisked to these places and everything is so beautiful and overwhelming it allows you to be transported with this next person and this next person and but when they're literally staying in the same

vicinity she's like oh well Dale's next door yeah come on over I so I feel like the way that this show was done for COVID also worked against her being able to um participate in the journey I I agree with that for sure um I did feel like we just were robbed of getting to know these guys in any way because like literally we're just finding out that Blake bought a book on dementia just like to learn about what Claire's going through with her mom and I just cried like seriously like kill me like when he said that I'm like that is so sweet and like that's a good guy who literally never got a chance yeah I just need to say something about Blake because like when we first met him I was like I there's like a few guys in Bachelor Nation where I'm like oh my god this

is just the greatest guy and I still think he's so cute and like a nice guy um but I just feel like less so why I don't know I just feel like he was taking it all like I think he really thought that like him and Claire he was taking it really personally I think he thought he was winning yeah and I don't know why he would think that he was taking it extremely personally but I do like that he was emotionally invested yeah but I just felt like it was a little too much for me where some of the other guys had better reactions also when they were all sitting around everyone was kind of giving her a hard time and then she said I won't apologize for love and someone was like I forgot who it was but this man is like a real like a good fucking guy he was like

as you shouldn't and then everyone sort of turned I don't agree with that but like listen sorry made her decision you don't need to sit there oh these men an apology I'm sorry you do and the fact that you only apologize when that one guy was like can you just like acknowledge like what you're doing is annoying okay and she said I'm sorry if I wasted your time I'm sorry but it took a 38 year old woman like literally a whole day and a coercion to apologize okay and so she then she apologized but she said I won't apologize for love and that one guy just like threw her fucking bone yes and the rest of the guys were like we're happy for you and I was just happy for her that like that that painful part of the conversation was over and I just thought that guy was like a really stand-up guy to turn the like angry men

into just being like okay I think that of all the ways she could have handled it she handled it extremely poorly yeah making them sit around all day for days dates moved days canceled rose ceremonies canceled they literally just sat in that room for like 72 hours like hostages no 100% and then I just think her demeanor was off. Like I think the guys could be happy for her, but also want their time and effort and quarantine acknowledged. And I don't think that's unreasonable. And I just think the fact that like it wasn't even at the forefront of her mind to apologize,

not for doing what she's doing, but for just being sympathetic. Like it took a whole thing for them to get here some of them have kids like they and the fact that it literally didn't even cross her mind that she should apologize for like wasting their time and their efforts like is why she's really really selfish and like that is what bothered me most about the whole thing i don't i don't judge her for her calls or her judgment in dale she thinks she's doing the right thing for herself she's a grown woman i can acknowledge that but i just think like it really rubbed me the wrong way. Like just the way she totally, every episode she was disrespecting these guys in like another way.

Yeah. Okay. That's fair for me. Like I just would have been bored to tears if I were them. But then Tayshia shows up. And honestly, it's like so exciting. But then it's like when you see previews, it does settle in. It's like it's not a great position for Tayshia to be coming into like second option yeah I wish they would bring in some more guys I do

think that they do it's not fair that Claire got 25 and Tayshia will get 15 who are already into Claire maybe the 10 that were sent home is Tayshia's perfect man right no I do think that they have guys in the back oh that would be great yeah it will definitely the stock room. It will definitely be, there'll be growing pains. I think that will make for interesting TV. We'll see who was able to set their feelings aside. Like I said, that guy, I think his name is Jason, who was on the first one-on-one who like opened up. Yes.

Even though he's clearly like a completely closed, guarded book. He's struggling. He is struggling. Like that, I mean. He might send himself home. Like he's going to have trust issues for the rest of his life. Because what Claire did to him on that date, I thought was really weird, like was unnecessary, even if they wound up like getting married, like you don't need to spill your whole life and your

secrets and your innermost feelings on day one on a first date with someone. And you're not a bad guy if you don't want to do that. No. And then the whole dress thing, it was like so dramatic. I'm looking forward to truly being done with Claire because part of me just feels really bad for her. I think that like she's getting so much like hate. Bachelor Nation is fucking vicious. It's just like they can be really, really mean. And I do really feel bad for her.

But at the same time, I'm like, I understand why people are frustrated with her. It's like you literally went off on Matt James for being on Cameo because he didn't respect the opportunity he's been given. And like you literally left the show and you didn't respect the opportunity you've been given. That's so funny. Claire should take my phone because I haven't seen like any of this hate for her. Oh, I have. Yeah.

I also haven't looked for it. Oh, yeah. Oh, but now, you know, of course, once things are official, there's I've seen a million things. People saw Dale a few weeks ago at Hillstone on a date with a girl. Multiple people have accounted for it. Apparently they're not together. There's all this hoopla. They went live on Instagram. Claire was like giddy giddy giddy. Do I think that this is the greatest love story of our generation? No.

No. I am going to say that I'm going to say I think they might still be together. I think he could be at dinner with a girl and it not be um him on a date I haven't seen everything but I'm gonna what I've been doing with the bachelor in a lot of shows I feel like even real house I've shows is I'm just watching the show I'm not watching the after shows I'm not watching the Instagram lives I'm barely following on Twitter and Instagram and I'm just watching the show in front of me and I just go by that okay even like even though that's not it's weird when it's reality TV and it's like no there's all this other shit happening. But I'm just being a viewer. Okay well I'm being a sleuth and that's what the sleuths are saying. Because I've done

the Bachelor viewing where I'm looking at spoilers, reading every tweet, looking at all the comments, who's liking what, who's following who, and it's exhausting. Like this is just I feel like lighter. I mean The Bachelorette like being a fan of the franchise like is literally exhausting. It's a full-time job. Yeah. Look at Snatchler. Literally. Check out The Snatchler for a new episode recapping what we just did.

Then Real Housewives of Potomac was on last night. Just really a wonderful part of the week. Great way to start the week. It's, they're in Portugal. They're on this trip. And I am feeling really like steadfast in my sentiments from last week is that like I'm like really being close to be complete to being completely done with Giselle I am completely done with Giselle like the fact that every time they sit down at a meal she's prodding people

so Ashley how's Michael Ashley how's Dean well Karen how's how's uh Ray like she knows what people are going through and she just wants to exploit that for conversation. And if anyone even thinks of asking her about what's going on in her life, the hypocrisy, she's just so closed off and she takes everything as an attack when it's like literally you bring up, Karen, how's your relationship with Wendy? Like you bring up-

Karen, do you have to pay your husband back? Like something that you shared when you were drunk and now I'm also gonna make fun of you like for not drinking. She literally like exploits people's insecurities and no one's, and then gets so mad and it kind of had a lot of respect for Robin for taking um Karen's side in that conversation yes and then I had even less respect for Giselle that like she had to sit down with Robin and be like you need to have my

back and it's like Robin will have no future on this show if her role is only echoing Giselle's friend like what she there was nothing wrong with what she said and once Giselle had that reaction to Rob and I was like really almost like pretty much completely turned I felt like everything that Karen said even though it's no one wants to call anyone out and put someone else on the spot she was completely right point the fact years that Giselle for years brings up everyone's business tell us everyone what everyone else says if someone is being a little shady she calls everything out and that same openness does not apply to her it is hypocrisy you know and honestly I think everyone needs to take on this mentality because every time they flash back to something Giselle did I'm like why did I stand her so much like

she when she wore that t-shirt they did that flashback so fucking mean so mean and then they show Karen's face and like the hurt in like there's like point one second where it's like shock hurt and then like she goes back to like just playing it cool and like it is so sad especially knowing now that Giselle's best friend has yep tax issues where's your t-shirt where's your t-shirt I couldn't agree more honestly my favorite part of the episode was when Karen Huger after they land bumps her head getting into the car and then pretends to faint oh my god because I don't know why like something about her like her body went completely like limb it was so funny she is literally like and I never thought I

would be here saying like I can't stand Giselle like I think Karen Huger is the smartest woman in the world like I literally can't stand Giselle and i think karen huger is the smartest one like i respect karen huger so much like i believe everything she says i think she's really really smart and like i do think she has good intentions and that's the thing i always knew giselle didn't have the best intentions but it was like funny and entertaining and now it's it's cross the line to being mean yeah i totally agree karen monique and ashley i absolutely love them they're so open like they get uncomfortable and they also were good friends to one another and right now that's my team right let's talk about the Ashley statement because I feel like there's a lot about Monique and Ashley's relationship

that we don't know I think but I love that Ashley is even being so open as to being like Monique had my back last year yeah when it came to Michael like I'm gonna have her back that's something that most people wouldn't say she wouldn't most people like wouldn't bring it up again and acknowledge it like maybe there was a tape like I totally agree and we she she told us that Monique has actually known for a while that Ashley and Michael have this sort of open relationship so I think there's a lot about their friendship that we don't know and also what the fuck does Ashley owe Candace like Candace has been horrible to Ashley horrible of course she would write a statement and of course Candace reacts the way that she reacts Candace is so immature like I don't think I'll ever be able to get over her

reaction to finding out that Monique was counter suing her it's like a child like yes of course you think you're right but like you brought it into the legal hemisphere of course Monique is gonna protect herself and her family like it's such an irrational reaction her reaction was so wild but re-watching it again in the preview when she you have no scruples scruples it was brilliant it was honestly hysterical I totally agree do you have no such a random word to use and I was like but I get it like that's a great word to use yeah I agree um and then like we're still going back and forth on like Wendy and Karen and like I have to say like it's hard for me to say it but like I just like really don't like Wendy like no she's bothering me so much like I feel like she just

wants to make an impact as a housewife so like this degrees thing is like she thinks it's like her battle and like she's gonna make you know empowering statements left right and center like it is empowering like I really really respect that you have four degrees and like can't say that enough but it's like you gotta move on you have got to move on when she brought it up again after after the cable car after she had already buttoned it yeah I was like oh no but when she told the story about how she got her name I was shook the most wonderful story I've ever heard I agree it was really sweet like I didn't know where she was going with the story when I figured figured it out, I was like, Wendy, Wendy's. I was like, I was just like the girls, they were like, where is she going with this story? Yeah.

No, another degree story. Like, and then it was Wendy's. I was like, oh my God, I love that. I love the name Wendy too. Wendy's an interesting gal because I really teeter between having so much respect for her and then like really wanting her to stop talking. Yeah. I think that's like what you can come to expect from a housewife, you know? That's true. Robin Dixon was truly MIA this episode. Like I don't even know.

Oh, except she did, um, she did wear this striped tank top on the cable car. The dress. The dress that was like so awful and ugly. And I just, she really made, she really made an impact. An impact with that dress. In that dress, yeah. Yeah. It was really awful. Yeah. No, it's not good. Um, but it was a good episode. I mean, there's so, she really made an impact. An impact with that dress. In that dress, yeah. Yeah. It was really awful.

Yeah, no, it's not good. But it was a good episode. I mean, there's so much happening in Potomac. Like, it honestly has been, like, a good season, but also, like, a bad one. I can't explain. Yeah, because, like, this fight has sort of has been, like, stuck in the mud. Yeah. We have Real Housewives of Salt Lake City on Wednesday.

I'm so excited. It looks so good. When I was watching OC, oh, no, when I was watching something this week, they had a 60-second. Yes, like a preview. Oh, my God, it looks so good. When I was watching OC, oh no, when I was watching something this week, they had a 60 second. Yes, like a preview. Oh my God, it looks so good. It's such a diverse group of women. And I think, I really think it's going to be excellent.

I'm just hoping, you know me, I'm very surface level. I just hope most of them have some money because I can't deal. It looks like they do. I just don't like when like you go on a housewife's trip and you know that like this is the nicest way they travel. Like they don't normally fly first class or they don't normally stay in hotels this nice like that's when I don't like like your house and I feel that way in New York like they like when they go to Cancun and they're like in those houses they like die over these houses because that's like the

nicest trip they're gonna take this year yeah whereas like I feel like in certain cities it's like no no this is the bar that we're used to yeah so I'm just I'm looking for some some nice Utah Mormon money oh I'm so excited for a Utah moment I'll have to. Yeah. So I'm just, I'm looking for some, some nice Utah Mormon money. Oh, I'm so excited for a Utah moment. I'll have to wear my hat while I watch. The episode. Yeah. So now that you've made it through an entire episode with the hat, where did we land? Okay. So I have to watch it, see how it looks. Um, and I don't know, it either like completely made the episode or completely ruined it. Yeah. Well, at least we had fun with it. And here's what I know. I know that people are going to let me know what they think.

You know what? That's the other thing. I think maybe why we were talking about how, you know, things are so inconsistent. And Alex Trebek was really like this beacon that we could rely on. And I think that, you know, getting positive and negative feedback from people, even when you didn't ask for it, is another one of those constants that actually warms the cockles of my heart. We can always rely on it. We can always rely on it.

So I hope that the hat made a good debut. You know, maybe tomorrow if it's like a fan favorite, I'll come in the hat that you got for me. Okay. Like, because don't you want to see me wear that on the show? No, yeah. It's got to start somewhere. I definitely thought.

And do you ever feel like wearing a baseball hat on the show ever? Literally never. Every once in a while I'm like, maybe. Maybe on like a Friday. It's never occurred to me. I'm normalizing wearing hats on the show. I'm Mrs. Hat, y'all. Okay.

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