The Toast - S3 Ep194: Message Received: Monday, November 30th, 2020

Episode Date: November 30, 2020

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Good morning, Millennials! day. But we will persevere. We will get through this together as a unit because that's what we do here at the Morning Toast. Get through things. Because I'm wearing a beanie and I think that always brings us together. Mrs. Hat is in studio today. She's back in the building. This is actually a shopmorningtoast.com beanie that everyone has been loving especially me. This is actually my first time wearing it. One of our best sellers. One of our best sellers and I just love a beanie. Like my hair was nothing nothing to write home about today. And I, and neither was my outfit. And I was like,

beanie. I think beanie. A beanie could solve all of this. I hope everyone had an amazing weekend. You know what I, conclusion I came to over the weekend? Please tell me. I think Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday.

Wow. Claudia, that's beautiful. What's not to love? First of all, I love, the only thing that's really like, that it involves to be like an active Thanksgiving participant

is to eat a lot and to be with your family. And like, to me, those are my two favorite things in the entire world. Those are some of your core tenets. My core values. They are like one of my many pillars of society. Actually, I think that you have a limited number of pillars as one does. And I think that those are the two. Maybe I have like three or four.

And those are definitely two of them. Don't put me on the spot and ask what the others are I'm not sure yet those are that I need more time to think okay but all I'm saying and I love the Thanksgiving Day Parade it is just such a joy and I love the dog show afterwards so it's really just like I never I had never thought about it too much but I think it's my favorite holiday that's so wonderful to hear considering on our last episode we did a patreon episode all about Thanksgiving and things you can talk about at the dinner table with your family and you said like you kind of fucking hate Thanksgiving no I said I hate the Thanksgiving cuisine I don't like turkey even though Olivia did make a decent turkey I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie it was a little dry but it was good did you or did you not feel

that tryptophan? Oh, definitely. I was fucking passed the fuck out by like seven, eight o'clock. I definitely believe in the myth of tryptophan. It's not a myth. It's a literal science. The myth is real. And I have, I am a myth buster and I have busted the myth. It is true.

And Olivia was great because Olivia made me like the biggest bowl of Kraft mac and cheese. So like, that's what I ate while everyone ate like, you know, the cranberry sauce. I can't look at cranberry sauce without like literally dying. It's so disgusting. You know what? Like fine. That's fair. Fine, fine.

Nobody needs a sauce made of cranberries. Yeah. No, I mean like it's fine if that's what you're wearing. It's savagery. No, we won't make you eat it. No, definitely not.

Like I won't even touch it. It's so sick. And like it's gelatinous shape and texture. Yeah, it's so sick. I can't believe you believe it and Olivia and Ben were like this is such good cranberry sauce I'm like you two are fucking sick and you need help yeah no I I'm glad that you've realized I feel like this year has like we're really realizing things about ourselves and it is the year of realizing things you realize your

likes and your dislikes and yeah and you're realizing that Thanksgiving is just it I know I kind of wish that I had come to this realization, like, before Thanksgiving. Because now it's over and I have to wait a whole other year. Like, maybe I'll forget. Maybe next year remind me that, like, I love Thanksgiving so much. But now it's, like, tis the season. And I think this whole month is really about those two things. Food and family.

Yeah. Joy and cheer. And I think that we can bring that to you. Yeah. Well, it's really, really like officially the holiday season. Like I walked out of my apartment this morning and my door, my lobby. They were setting up the tree? It was already up.

In my apartment, they were setting up the tree. And I was like, I've never been around to see the process. And speaking of trees and updates, have you seen what Rockefeller Center tree looks like? No. Stunning, like we said. So everyone got all klempt for nothing. Would you say that it's beautiful? Stunning? Yes. And smart? I haven't gotten to know for nothing. Would you say that it's beautiful? Stunning?

Yes, yes. And smart? I haven't gotten to know it personally yet, so I'm not entirely sure, but it might be. It might be. I'm sure it is.

I'm sure it is. We have an amazing show for you guys because there is a lot that we need to discuss in a pop culture world. There's so much to talk about, you guys.

We talked about a lot of things last week, but we watched so many things. Obviously, the Undoing finale last night. I have some thoughts. As do I. I have some thoughts about the show in general me too and folklore oh yes I forgot about that definitely watched it did you catch a vibe I did you know I was gonna wait till like nightfall to like really catch vibe and then by like three o'clock I was so bored because we were on vacation I'm like I'm just watching it and it was still so premium

lovely I watched it as well it was literally exactly what you would expect it was it was really well done explanation song explanation a long pond in a studio repeat song explanation repeat yeah exactly um Real Housewives of Potomac which we have to discuss the record level of disrespect towards Karen Huger it was astronomical that is so funny that you say that because I was like I watched the last two episodes yesterday and I was like the common theme here is that in every single scene they are disrespecting karen huger making fun of her business her marriage something make it like they had that sex party where everyone was like sharing titillating details about their sex lives and to everyone everything everyone else said everyone's like oh ah really no ashley what else

karen said something like oh yeah no it's they're so mean to her so much disrespect so on point like when she was like honestly I've retired my mouth like you're an old woman I fully respect that fully respected when she said she said a few things to Robin yeah I know where she just like sat her down you know I have And then the whole time people were like saying stuff to her and she was like, I received that message. And then she said something nasty to Rob and she was like, did you receive that? She was just being so on point,

literally so much disrespect thrown her way and she fucking handled it like a queen. So much disrespect. I can't take one more level. And even the thing with the hats, like it hurt when it was coming in it hurt my heart it hurt my heart and i just have to say robin going to anyone's event about their business and having the absolute gall to literally like mock their business when you literally run a hat

shop out of your house and you did a photo photo shoot with your friends for free in like a junkyard alley you uh those in glass houses should not throw stones robin dixon you literally making fun of anyone's business is colossal hypocrisy and i that's where i stand i completely agree we'll give you the full recap after the fast five actually it's nice to know where you stand a hundred percent like i'm so done with robin Dixon. Like, I've always been good to her. Always. Like, I've always never let her go to that place of, like, people I can't stand, even though she's so deserving of it.

Because she is legitimately the worst housewife. Like, girlfriend, why are you looking at $1.6 million houses? Why are you looking at what would be, probably besides Monique, the nicest house of all the women when you are on a payment plan to the government? Yeah. What are you doing? Like, who do you think you're fooling not me not me not me and so it looks like next week like Juan isn't proposing I don't care I don't care that would be like really a crazy turn though yeah I just I was really disappointing for Ashley because she like was playing on the other

side and she's really had her head on straight and it's honestly it's the the housewives of Potomac who I don't think are clowns like they're just fewer and fewer now just Monique and Karen no I'm still here for Ashley I think that Ashley she's not playing both sides but she's sharing it the all the information she has with both sides she's just like an open book I can't really blame her I and she wrote that statement and she's defending Monique when it counts and when it matters and so I'm here for her and actually I love her so we will get into that so we will but before we get into that we have other things to get into such as and I think that we should such as get into

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Choose what's real. Love it. Okay, first story. Big story last week. The Grammy nominations are here. We have some big winners and we have some big snubs. Respect was given and respect was taken. The Grammys giveth and the Grammys taketh away.

They very much do. Beyonce led the list of nominees with a total of nine nominations. She's up to 79 like lifetime nominations. That's crazy. Followed by Taylor Swift, Roddy Rich, and Dua Lipa with six nominations each. So as the you know the annoying resident Taylor Swift stan, I'm very excited about this. We've had two albums in a row where Taylor has just been like completely ignored by the Grammys. That was Reputation and Lover. No, but it was worse than being ignored because she did get nominated for top performance vocal. Yeah, like such a slap in the face.

So it's like, no, no, we know about your album. But we just didn't like it. But this is where we placed it. Yeah, exactly. That's so true. But Folklore now made it into all the major categories in one way or another. And it's exciting because it really was given the year. It was the album of the year.

I will be shocked if anything else wins really I know I feel like she's either gonna win every category that she's in or or she's not but I do feel like she will and after watching the folklore movie documentary um and seeing all the stories behind the songs it makes you appreciate each song even more of course if I were a grammy member watching it would, it would definitely influence my vote because having that sort of insight into the music makes you respect it more. And it's so helpful. Yeah. To like enjoy. Yeah. I feel like every year, there's always like snubs and like the people, you know, speak out. I do feel like this year that more artists, it's not a ton, but more artists are now speaking out against the Grammys. And I feel like we might one day, not anytime anytime soon like get to a place where a majority of artists like are like don't care about the Grammys anymore. Yeah. Because right now like Drake spoke out about it

um The Weeknd spoke out about it. Halsey spoke out about it. And Halsey's been very vocal about it. She has been. Um and those are three like major like drake the weekend like those are not you know nobody's yeah that's true well so here are the nominations for the big categories if this amazon ad will get the fuck out of my face okay there record of the year black parade by beyonce colors by black pumas rock star da baby featuring roddy Ricch Say So Doja Cat Everything I Wanted Billie Eilish Don't Start Now Dua Lipa Circles Post Malone Savage by Megan Thee Stallion That is a lot That is a lot you can see all the categories

there are a lot of nominations I don't know if it's always like that or we're just like because we just watch the AMAs with three nominees per category it does feel like a lot Well I really feel like this year was the year of Savage vs Say So they were both so big on TikTok category it does feel like a lot well I really feel like this year was the year of savage versus say so like they were both so big on tiktok then they both had remixes one with Nikki Minaj one with Beyonce the Beyonce one is so much better what's nominated for record oh that's so interesting

yeah and I'm glad because I think it's so good me too um I do think that will win you do I do I think it's going to be a mighty big sweep for Megan Thee Stallion in a lot of categories. Okay. She's undeniably just everything of the sort. I'm taking a different route. I'm saying Don't Start Now by Dua Lipa because I actually think it's one of the greatest songs of all time. Me too. But I think of it as song of the year.

Like what got the most play on like in all facets. I don't know if the Grammys respect social media or respects the TikTok of it all. But if you're in the music industry right now, you cannot deny the power of TikTok. No, I know. And I'm keeping that into account I'm just saying like musically and also on the charts like Don't Start Now is just an exceptional song and I also think Say So and Savage are but I'm just that's where I'm gonna cast my vote I think that Dua Lipa has this like very rare disease where she's unable to put out a piece of music that is less than less than stellar no it's it's incredible I would say maybe my least favorite song of hers is that new one levitating and it's still pretty good i like it it's like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i got you yoda bada starlight i need you doona yeah yeah yeah

it's good yeah it is you know when i take it, it's flops. Okay, album of the year. We have a lot of nominees. Chilombo by Jhene Aiko. Black Pumas by Black Pumas. Everyday Life by Coldplay. Did Jesse volume... Literally had no idea Coldplay put out an album. Same.

Volume 3 by Jacob Collier. Women in Music Part 3 by Haim. Future Nostalgia... Haim. Haim. Haim. Haim. Sorry. Haim Ketchup. Sorry, Haim fans. Haim. Haim. Haim. Haim. Sorry. Haim ketchup. Sorry Haim fans. Haim fans. Sorry Haim fans.

I'm not being bitchy like I just don't fuck with Haim like at all. They're like the opposite. I don't think anybody expects you to. I don't really I just don't like they should be everything that I love like Three Sisters Jewish. I heard that like when they first um started out their band name was the Bagel Bitches like I like I should love them everything they do bothers me so much like they're just like aesthetic is the opposite of what I believe in do you know what I mean yes no I know I you don't need to explain it to me I don't think anybody's confused okay cool cool cool Future Nostalgia by Dua Lipa Hollywood's Bleeding Post Malone Folklore by Taylor Swift one of the last three I don't think Dua Lipa Hollywood's Bleeding Post Malone Folklore by Taylor Swift

One of the last three I don't think Dua Lipa Will get album of the year Post Malone could But I really think It'll be folklore Like it was I mean

I mean I say this every year Like all of Every time Taylor releases an album Like it is record breaking And the numbers are insane And like usually She sells more albums In that category

Than all the others combined And I'm sure that's the case Here as well And I know that That's a big factor for Grammys But it just it was like we were in a quarantine year and folklore was a quarantine album like even if you don't like Taylor Swift like you have to admit that yeah that's true and that would be her third album of the year because she won for 1989 and fearless I don't know if she won for any she didn't win for red she didn't win for reputation

I really feel like she's either gonna win them all or just like win none. I wonder if she's going to go. Well, I mean, according to Halsey, that's how you, that's how you get nominated and that's how you win. And now like we can speculate all we want, but we actually know from her documentary that like the Grammys are really important to her. Yes. And like she had a really good day last week when she got this.

Because in that documentary, she got the phone call that for Reputation, she did not get nominated in any of the four major categories. And she was bummed. And she was so bummed on the verge of tears and said, I'll just make a better album. And then she made Lover. And that one also didn't get any of the categories. So she maybe is over it now.

But it's something that for a while has been very important to her. Yes. Okay. Song of the Year nominees. The other one was Record of the Year. I don't know the difference. Don't get the difference. Black Parade by Beyonce.

The Box by Roddy Ricch. Beep boop. Beep boop. Ba da da da coopa da la. Fun at what a 12 foot spot. Busting all the bells at the box. I just want to leave with a... That's such a good song.

So good. That was like the first song that literally ever went viral on TikTok. Totally. Beep boop. Cardigan by Taylor Swift. Really not my favorite song by any means. Thank you. Thank you for your honesty. I'm TikTok. Totally. Cardigan by Taylor Swift. Really not my favorite song by any means. Thank you. Thank you for your honesty. I'm honest. Yeah. Circles by Post Malone.

Fabulous song. Don't Start Now, Dua Lipa, Everything I Wanted, Billie Eilish. Which one is that? I don't know. All I know is the new one. I think therefore I am. I am. Stop. What the hell are you talking about? I actually like, I really do like, get my pretty name out of your mouth. I actually like Billie Eilish, but I don't like when singers who aren't rappers like talk.

It's actually like when Taylor talks in some of her music, it's my least favorite thing. So he calls me up and he's like, I love you. And I'm like, please stop talking. Like I hate when people talk in songs. Unless you are rapping, that is the only exception I'm willing to accept.

So are you not a fan of Sam Hunt? Hate when he does that. And she was calling me and I'm like. Yeah, yeah. Hate. Hate. Nothing makes me cringe more. Now we know. Also nominated for Song of the Year, I Can't Breathe by her.

And If the World Was Ending by Julia Michaels and J.P. Sacks. If the world was ending. No, that's like a very decent like Z100 song. Like when you're driving five blocks downtown. Like by no means is that worthy of any sort of accolade. And that's, you know what? Justice for fucking Halsey. Like that song got nominated.

I know. That song is a piece of shit. Sorry. Halsey has a few songs this year that like are so fucking good that song the one that everyone's using on TikTok to like um it's like a it's like a trend on TikTok like if you talk about your trauma you use the song and it's I want to start the sound and say oh my god I gotta get it off my chest I had no anger got no malice just a little bit of regret so fucking good it's so fucking good and how dare they

julia michaels real like i'm upset okay i'm sorry not to pit woman against woman but here we are we find ourselves here yet again okay now nominees for best new artist ingrid andres oh i know i'm so happy she's getting the absolute respect she deserves. Phoebe Bridgers, Chica, Noah Cyrus, D Smoke, Doja Cat. I'm sorry, what? Noah Cyrus? Is that it? That's even worse than Julia Michaels. Yeah.

That's bad. And she's not new. And what did she release? A semi-decent country song? No, she has a few hit songs with the DJjs out there sure and so like nothing about her is new to this year hmm it's just bizarre kate trenada and megan the stallion so i think the stallion is so clear megan the stallion doja cat oh yeah and i'm throwing ingrid on dress no literally this entire year is just like. TikTok.

No, Megan Thee Stallion versus Doja Cat. Because like their songs just were both so big. Yeah. I feel like that's how last year was like Billie Eilish versus Lizzo. Yeah, that's a good call. And both are winning ladies. Yeah. So those are the big nominees, the big categories.

And so the big snubs. The Weeknd is most obvious. The Weeknd and Luke Combs. Yeah. Is Luke Combs' album eligible? Yes. And he put out singles this year. Okay, because there's a bunch of rules.

Actually, no, you're right, because Luke Combs' album came out in November. Mm-hmm. And he was snubbed. That's disgusting. Thank you. That is so... There's the outrage.

That's disgusting. Mm-hmm. And how are we supposed to take the Grammys seriously when they pull shit like this? I don't know. That's disgusting. Thank you. That is so. There's the outrage. That's disgusting. And how are we supposed to take the Grammy seriously when they pull shit like this? I don't know. That's sick. I know. And then The Weeknd is obviously the most obvious one. He also like spoke on it, posted a little something on his Instagram. And it was just bizarre because he says that he's been in talks with the Grammys, the Recording Academy, in the last couple weeks

to perform at the Grammys. And you don't perform at the Grammys if you're nominated for nothing. Yeah. He doesn't even have like a single nomination. Yeah, I don't even think you get like an invite in the mail. No, definitely not. That's crazy. Very bizarre. And then Justin Bieber released a very bizarre statement about his being nominated. He wanted to make it very clear that he wasn't coming off ungrateful. He's just confused because Changes' album is, you know, tried and true, an R&B album from the melodies to the rhythm to the lyrics. And he was treated as pop. He was put in the pop categories. Yes, this was his statement. To the Grammys, I am flattered to be acknowledged and appreciated for my artistry. I am very meticulous and intentional about my music. With that being said, I set out to make an R&B

album. Changes was and is an R&B album. It is not being acknowledged as an R&B album, which is very strange to me. I grew up admiring R&B music and wished to make a project that would embody that sound. For this not to be put in that category feels weird, considering from the chords to the melodies to the vocal style all the way down to the hip-hop drums that were chosen. It is undeniably, unmistakably, an R&B album. To be clear, I absolutely love pop music. It just wasn't what I set out to make this time around. My gratitude for feeling respected for my work remains

and I'm honored to be nominated either way. Ariana Grande wasn't nominated for anything, but she actually took the year off, right? Yeah, for the most part. For the most part. She might have had like a best pop vocal performance in there somewhere. You know, she did Stuck With You.

I don't know if that got any nominations. Oh, that song was not it. But what is so interesting, I just scrolled down to the country section, and best country album. Are you ready for these nominees? I remember reading it and feeling underwhelmed. Underwhelmed, but it's all, aside from Little Big Town, it's all females.

Oh, wow. Ladylike by Ingrid Andress. So good. Your Life is a Record by Brandi Clark. Wildcard by Miranda Lambert. Never Will by Ashley McBride. Oh, Ashley McBride. I don't know if I've mentioned this maybe two, three hundred times.

I've recently joined the Ashley McBride team and she is just so everything of the sort. Yeah, she really is. Let's just stick to the one night standards. She's so good. So good. So, um. Well, love seeing women in country thrive. And I've always felt that the men that they build up in country are just like not it.

Like, yeah, they're like tropes of country music like Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan. They're so like cheesy. Yeah, they're like they're they're just like people who seem to be so country, but their songs are corny. And like, yeah, I hear you. And I do think they're talented people, but they just become like an industry within themselves. A hundred percent. And it's like,

they released the same song. They lose like that heart of country. So I think the women in country music are constantly releasing better music and living for the Grammys for seeing that. Love it. Well, those are the Grammy nominees. It will be airing in January hosted by Trevor Noah.

So we'll see you then. Oh, hopefully he doesn't ruin it. I just have come to like really resent hosts. Do you know what I mean? I know. I know. It's like, who's hosting? I'm scared.

Like, you know, I'm never going to be happy with the host. Ever. Because it should be me. I'm kidding. Okay. Next up, Selena Gomez's fans express outrage

over Saved by the Bell reboot mocking her kidney transplant. This is so, this is just not a story I saw coming, like, in any way. In any way. Mostly because I wasn't, like, aware of Saved by the Bell reboot. Me neither. That it was airing. It's a Peacock original.

I feel like we always talk about these reboots that are coming, but, like, we never get to the part where they air. Follow up, right. You know? But apparently it's on Peacock now, and it had several references to the singer's 2017 kidney transplant yeah in one scene from the new series to see two students at Bayside High are arguing about who Gomez's transplant donor was right one of the girls like it was Justin Bieber yeah so one person said I know for a fact that Selena Gomez's kidney

donor was Justin Bieber's mom god I wish I had my phone so I could prove it. And the other student responds, Prove what? You're an idiot. It was Demi Lovato's kidney. They're best friends like you and I were. By the way it was her friend Francia Reza. Okay first of all literally everyone knows that. I feel like this is just bad writing. And also in another scene the words behind the main character the words does Selena Gomez even have a kidney appear to be written on the walls in the school does Selena Gomez even have a kidney appear to be repeated yeah on the walls in the school's hallway so this is just bizarre and I really want to chalk this up to bad writing because it feels like an old person wrote this being like what are the kids you know

debating over these days and I feel like they were looking for like a cliche pop culture debate like I would consider like what happened in the elevator with Jay-Z and Beyonce to be like one of the great mysteries of our time and I think that they were trying to capture that essence like but nobody thinks anything like everyone knows that Francia Raissa was the woman who donated her kidney to Selena Gomez and like we all moved on from it so this is like just this is so like this is obvious like of Peacock like hiring writers to write a show about kids who know nothing about kids very true well Peacock, like, hiring writers to write a show about kids who know nothing about kids. Very true.

Well, Peacock released a statement saying, We apologize. It was never our intention to make light of Selena's health. We have been in touch with her team and will be making a donation to her charity, the Selena Gomez Fund for Lupus Research at USC. So bizarre. Like, in so many ways, this is so weird. And, like, it's just, it's not funny.

Right. I, like, you know, I hear if you want to make a joke that maybe is not going to rub everyone the right way, it really has to be funny. Like, it has to be like, just outstandingly hilarious. And this was like, not only not funny, but like kind of cringy and super rude. Beyond. It's not a good, it's not a good way to start off. It's not a good look for anyone involved here. No.

I'm embarrassed. It's not a good look for the reboot. Like, I think that this for anyone involved here. No. I'm embarrassed. It's not a good look for the reboot. Like, I think that this could, like, ruin the whole reboot. Yeah, it's taking the reboot down. I don't know how good of a chance it stood, like, to begin with. I don't know if it's a good show. But, like, this is bad for the whole reboot. It's just awful.

Like, I'm embarrassed for absolutely everyone involved. Not to be dramatic. But, like, it's just, it's really embarrassing. No, I know. Literally, you release a show. Nobody talks about it. Except now they're talking about, like, something really lame you did. know. Literally, you release a show, nobody talks about it, except now they're talking about something really lame you did,

and you have to fucking release an apology and make a donation. Like, how embarrassing for you. Yeah. I'm embarrassed. As you should be. I'm embarrassed, Otto. You should be. Maybe I should talk to someone about how embarrassed I am. You should.

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toast. Check it out. It's something everyone needs love it okay next story this was a big story of the weekend um the fight between jake paul and nate robinson nate robinson is saying he's okay after the ugly jake paul knockout okay that's good because above all like homeboy was like hardcore knocked out cold like dead asleep on the floor and i was like sometimes i've only watched a few of these fights and i always end up like wanting to cry because like someone's on the floor like looking lifeless and it's really sad yeah former Knicks player Nate Robinson said he was doing okay after getting knocked out by Jake Paul less than two minutes into the second round of his pro boxing debut on Saturday quote thank you to everyone for all of

the well wishes I'm okay I appreciate at Triller for the opportunity as well as everyone that has backed me during the fight to my coaches trainers fans and teammates I appreciate all the time and support you guys put in with me so I brought this up to you about wanting to talk about it and there's so many things I want to talk about go for it the first is this was like a Mike Tyson fight so it was like really legit but there were a few things that made the whole evening like seem really illegitimate to me Triller the first being Triller which is a TikTok rival app they spend like a lot of money on like those Hype House kids. Like they literally put them on like this mansion. Like they pay for everything in their lives just for them to like be on Triller too.

Like post their TikTok content on Triller. Like it's so weird. I don't even get the app. And now I guess they're like a wrestling platform. I have no idea. I didn't get it whatsoever. So at first I'm like, oh, Ben was like, the fight is on. I'm like, who is it?

Mike Tyson. I'm like, oh, that's legit. And then he said, yeah, it's Triller. And I'm like, what? And then like, the fight is on. I'm like, who is it? Mike Tyson. I'm like, oh, that's legit. And then he said, yeah, it's Triller. And I'm like, what? And then he said, it's also another fight, Jake Paul versus Nate Robinson. I'm like, okay, this is becoming more illegitimate with every waking second. And to me, I found the Jake Paul fight to be so much more interesting than the Mike Tyson one, because first of all, it was a little embarrassing.

Nate Robinson is a former professional athlete and like Jake Paul is a Viner from Ohio like the two are not the same and Jake Paul won like I just think that's worth noting like say what you want this has been such a bizarre year especially for Jake Paul like his home got raided by the FBI and like now he's out here winning pay-per-view fights and I don't know I was like really rooting for him I bet two I bet $210 on Jake Paul to win $100 and I won. That's so exciting. Yeah, no, it was very exciting. I just like, I wanted to root for the YouTuber, you know? Like it's-

No, this is really at its core an exciting moment. For influencers. For content creators. 100%. And I just, I thought there were so many things that were so interesting about the evening. Obviously Jake Paul being one of them. And just like, I've been now like following on social media, like his brother and Tana, like all of them celebrating. And I don't know, like I know we're supposed to hate the Paul brothers, but like I just can one of them. And just like, I've been now like following on social media, like his brother and Tana, like all of them celebrating.

And I don't know, like, I know we're supposed to hate the Paul brothers, but like, I just can't quit them. Like, I just like, I'm always like secretly rooting for them. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, this was interesting. I had no, like Zach told me there was a fight. Do I want to watch? I was like, no.

He was like, it's pop culture. And I was like, no. And then I spoke to you and you're like, Jake Paul is fighting. And I'm like, why didn't you tell me Jake Paul was fighting no it's crazy yeah it was crazy I still didn't watch it but um it definitely made it more interesting yeah no I watched it and like Jake Paul like really won like fair and square like didn't even use all the rounds because he got knocked out and uh Nate Robinson like couldn't even stand up let alone fight back like it was crazy have you been still watching Filthy rich no because um in the last episode second to last episode there's a fight like and he's like a warrior for jesus

oh it's a physical fight oh he gets in a oh you know what maybe don't tell me maybe i will watch it just it's funny that like the network that they're calling it like part of sunny club where they have a fight channel it's called praise purview wait that's so funny and i didn't know that they had a pay-per-view channel like for fighting well they they created one oh for him for him yeah oh i love that it's honestly i can't believe the show got canceled no you know what as i'm watching more i can believe it and it's honestly like it's not good no i know no it's like really not good it's it makes no sense no i know sometimes you get like especially with these types of shows like you get so distracted by like the great cast the fabulous location the rich home the business the

billionaires like dynasty like when you take all the fabulousness out of dynasty like it's really not a very good show but it's so fucking fabulous it's so good and I also think that dynasty is really good writers yes and there's something about filthy rich that's like so cheesy no and like nothing makes sense like a character does something, I'm like, that's not who this person is or who this person's supposed to be. Right. According to you guys. Logically, Ginger Sweets would have never turned down that initial $6 million. Remember?

She would have taken that money 100%. Yeah, and it's really, at the end of the day, it's like Bruno Sweets over Ginger Sweets. Always. And that's where I land. Always. Me too. Me too. At the end of the day, it's like Bruno Sweets over Ginger Sweets.

Always. And that's where I land. Always. Me too. Me too. Okay. A little exciting TV trivia game show news. This is a two-part story.

The first one is that champion Ken Jennings will be the interim Jeopardy host. Yes. I feel like this is most likely a permanent decision, but they have to see how he does. Like, will he be terrible? Who knows? It's always good to have a little test run. Yeah. I think, I like this, you know. It's so the obvious choice. And even though other people were throwing out like really decent recommendations, if they're not like connected to the history and the memory of Alex Trebek, then I just don't think it's going to work. Yes. So Jeopardy

is saying that Ken Jennings will be the first interim guest for the late Alex Trebek and the show will try other guest hosts before naming a permanent replacement so it's really like a competition yeah and like Ken Jennings if you're listening the opportunity like it's in your reach so just like don't fuck this up yeah just just be yourself but better yeah more refined so it'll be it'll be interesting yeah to watch a little other game show trivia news that I find to be quite interesting. Chef David Chang becomes the first celebrity to win $1 million on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. What charity did... The celebrities don't win the money themselves.

They win it for charity and he won it for the Southern Smoke Foundation. Oh, by the way, this episode I started to watch last week. You know, Who Wants to Be a Millionaire is like the worst show ever because like so it's an hour-long episode and if somebody gets out 30 minutes in they'll bring on another person and the episode could be over and the person is still in the middle of the game yes so when i was talking about who wants to be a millionaire like last week or the week before watching this episode i walked yeah and the second half was his he just had gotten started got Got it. He's friends with Jimmy Kimmel. That's how he got on the show.

Got it. Okay, well, here's the $1 million question. Let's see if we can get it. Oh, okay. Although he and his wife never touched a light switch for fear of being shocked, who was the first president to have electricity in the White House? Shit, you know, I don't even know when electricity was invented. Here are the options.

Ulysses S. Grant. I didn't even know when electricity was invented. Here are the options. Okay. Ulysses S. Grant. Who the fuck is that? He's the general. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Grant. Benjamin Harrison. That's not a president.

No, I know. Benjamin Harrison? Chester A. Arthur. He's definitely presidential vibes. Andrew Johnson. He is the president. Okay, start it. He is the president. Okay. Start it.

Read the question again. Although he and his wife never touched a light switch for fear of being shocked. Okay, so like who were the conspiracy theorists in the White House? Who was the first president to have electricity in the White House? Say it again. It must have been like a very new thing. Although he and his wife never touched it. No, no, the answers. Okay.

Ulysses S. Grant, Benjamin Harrison okay Chester A. Arthur Andrew Johnson let's talk this through okay and I'm really about to show how dumb I am but Grant was civil war post-civil war so like and when what year was the civil war um in the 1860s okay so that could be when electricity I actually am gonna vote Ulysses S. Grant I just have to take Benjamin Harrison out of the running because like I truly have never heard of him and I'm like 90% sure that this is like a trick question because he was never actually president um Andrew who Jack Johnson Andrew Johnson yeah I just I'm not getting the vibe you're not getting the vibe do you know the answer no I don't yeah I want to go just because I want to go Grant okay this is for thesses for the win. I'm going Grant.

He, let's see what it is. Hold on. He said this was his, like, when he was answering, he said this is terrifying. Oh, about, sorry, never mind. Okay, what's the fucking teaser? I'm trying to scroll. I don't know. I don't know.

Hold on. We might have to watch the clip. Just Google it. Like, copy and paste and google it okay by the suspense this is spent it's killing me oh he phoned a friend oh his pal ESPN anchor Mina Kimes okay what's the answer of course it is Benjamin Harrison are you fucking kidding me you know I was actually thinking when I was watching Who Wants to Be a Millionaire last week that if I had to phone a friend or not phone a friend, but they let you have like

a compadre like sit next to you in this new version, I would definitely bring you. Oh, thanks. Would you bring me? I stink. Would you bring me? Yeah. No, it's okay. Just because it would make it fun.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a funny experience. And then maybe we'd get like our own spinoff show because we were like so funny, you know? Yeah. We can fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, like, a funny experience. And then maybe we'd get, like, our own spinoff show because we were, like, so funny, you know? Yeah. We can dream. Yeah. Well, that's exciting for him and the charity that he supported. It is exciting.

And I think that's a really cool idea. I went, like, having celebrities go on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? And it still is a hard game to win. So it's very impressive. Celebrity versions of, like, traditional game shows are always good. Like, Celebrity Family Feud is so good. Yes I agree. I just love seeing celebrities in like weird situations like non-traditional celebrity activities like not red carpets or like movies like just like weird everyday things you know.

Yeah now I need to look up like when Benjamin Harrison was president like when. 1891. Oh and when was Ulysses S. Grant. Like when? 1891. Oh. And when was Ulysses S. Grant? It's just like there's really not that many presidents. Like to not have ever even heard of one of them just like sounds crazy to me.

Like how irrelevant was he? Like I bet he. 1869. So we were right in our like post-Civil War timeline. But electricity was just a little slower than that. That's just crazy. Okay. Okay.

Fifth and final story, which is going to lead us into a recap of the undoing but grace frazier's costume designer should be shot no kidding i'm kidding but like what did she do is speaking out about her wardrobe is she defending herself because she should be so her name is yeah no that was like the one piece of the puzzle that didn't really fit for me so i was very interested in this article that you sent me where um the costume designer explains herself explains herself her name is you texted me I got Jackie to watch the show and you text me like the show was really good oh my god you guys this text was so funny I said this is a really great show but it would be better if Nicole Kidman was dressed well I said if her outfits were on point and then literally we both texted at the same time I said she dresses like a witch and you said why does she dress like Hocus Pocus you know and it's

so true like the big long green duster coat that green coat is gonna haunt my dream and she did look fabulous at that school fundraiser and I thought that we were starting and I thought she was gonna be like this fabulous woman like when she goes to court with the business suits Sylvia her friend had a better wardrobe no I totally agree I just didn't understand the the thought behind it and here is the thought from the costume designer Signy Sedgland who's based in Copenhagen she said that she wanted her vision for Grace's style to be hinged on two somewhat contradictory ideas quote I wanted her to be able to walk around New York and stand out and blend in at the same time she said the latter of which is certainly more ideal for someone entangled in a gruesome murder

case like Grace's yeah that also didn't make sense like she's obviously such a visible person in New York and in her community like why would she be walking around in like the brightest green coat and the other coat was so bad and I do agree it did like take away from this this show a little bit because I thought like the way they captured like that Upper East Side, like kind of, you know, upper class group. Like I thought it was just excellent. The apartments were so stunning

and that school and all the other moms. Like I really thought it was very well done. And it was the one piece of the puzzle that didn't fit. And so she said that she attributed Grace's distinct style to her 70s, like 70s inspired bohemian style because it's something completely new for fans to see Nicole wearing on screen. Contrasting Celeste Wright. Yeah, no, but just because Celeste had a great neutral wardrobe doesn't mean that Grace should suffer. Yeah, and at first I thought that she was dressing weirdly for them to try to convey, like,

she wasn't a regular Upper East Side mom. She was a cool mom. That's what I thought. Like, maybe she had this bohemian style to reflect the fact that she was a cool mom. That's what I thought. Like maybe she had this like bohemian style to reflect the fact that she was like a bohemian out of the box thinker. Yeah and their apartment was like a little quirky with the purple walls. Like I thought maybe that was the point. Yeah but like that wallpaper in the bedroom

that was like so Upper East Side. Yeah. And I just think that the show like would have been on another level if her outfits were like. Sickening. Sickening on point. Like doesn't if her outfits were like... Sickening. Sickening, on point. Doesn't even have to be stupid Chanel suits.

No, like courthouse chic theory moment. Yeah, these coats. And I saw people trying to be like, what coat is Nicole Kidman going to wear tonight? Who the fuck asked that? No, like publications. Oh, yeah. So nobody's yet. We're on the edge of our seats wondering.

Everyone wants to know who did it. We want to know what coat. No, like no interest in knowing no the person who made that coach be ashamed of themselves and it's like as the story goes on it's like three months from the time she's murdered to the trial and i'm just like so grateful that it's no longer winter 100 so she leaves the coat at home um but that does lead us into the recap you actually watched the whole series on Saturday and Sunday and obviously there was so much hype and fanfare and it's obviously a good show but I do think like it was a little there was just it just makes me realize like people are desperate for content because 100 this was not big little lies no no people were treating this like game of thrones

like yes literally let's all get together and watch let's have a watch party let's talk who do you think did it who is it because we were like who's gonna be the king i literally think that the entire world was watching last night's episode it's like if we weren't so bored this show wouldn't have garnered the amount of fanfare that it did. It would have just flown in on die. And it would have been good. And it's a good show. And it's always nice to have a good piece of premium content.

And I wasn't bothered by the ending at all. I didn't feel let down by it. I thought it was very smart. But, like, you could have watched. And as I was watching the episodes, I said this. I was like, you could have watched episode one and maybe two because in two you find out about the affair. And then just the last episode. All the stuff in the middle it's like her like

sitting around crying going talking to someone else thinking crying going bringing here talk to the sun cry also go to the jail cry. Well so I was definitely disappointed in the ending because it was just like we didn't get anywhere. But at the same time I think that the point of the show and I'm not by any means like an interpreter of the arts but I think it was meant to be that this journey we went on like feeling like Hugh Grant definitely did it oh wait no he definitely did not let's look around and find someone else who did it it couldn't have been him too oh wait spoiler alert was definitely him that's what Nicole Kidman went through like we're supposed to be the whole story was told from

Nicole Kidman's point of view and like like, we went on that emotional rollercoaster with her too. That wasn't enough for me at the end. Like, when he was driving on the bridge, I'm like, do something, crash the car. Like, give me something. He didn't do anything. He didn't jump off the bridge. I thought the kid might've gotten hurt.

There was nothing. Like, everyone was fine. Right, but that's also because, from what I understand, because of his like, narcissist personality disorder, like, he was never actually going to hurt himself. He just wanted all the attention of people, like, caring about him. And I do think that they ripped the ending straight from Annie. Now, let me explain.

Let me explain. If you're familiar with Annie, you know the scene where Miss Hannigan and Rooster, her brother, they take Annie and they kidnap her. And she climbs that thing and at house Warbucks they realize that that Annie's gone and they get in the helicopter and as Rooster's ascending like the railroad tracks they're trying to get the helicopter to meet Annie and when Grace and her dad were in the helicopter and they're like going to the bridge to try and get the kidnapped child I'm like this is just plagiarism no by the way I see it when they were

in the helicopter like frantic looking for a missing child I was like is this Annie wow you know I haven't seen Annie in so long but you're totally right well thank you so much and like I posted it on my story and I there's a couple mixed reviews who agree with me and like thank you I feel so seen but so many people were like actually I voted what but now like no you're right you know I definitely see it yeah it just wasn't the climax in any way. Like, in terms of TV quality, drama, suspense, you know, cliffhanger, plot twist, we got out of that. No, but I do think that it was really smart because it's like, we just all believed him.

We all, and we all went on this journey in our heads. I came up with the most brilliant theory that I spoke about on the Patreon last week, where I really thought I had figured out the ending and it would have been, and that's what we're so used to in TV. Like the most crazy twist endings that like in reality make no fucking sense. Yeah. That's how we're trained. I really thought that Elena was the grandfather's illegitimate daughter

and that he had her killed because she was getting too close to Nicole Kidman and Hugh Grant. Like that's what I thought. Yeah. No, it just like, it was just so obvious and I liked it it definitely it's smart and it made you think think and we went on that journey with Nicole Kidman but I also felt like at times I wasn't seeing the show from her point of view because I felt like there were things about her that we didn't know like well there was also that underlying thing like did she do it is she schizophrenic and she has multiple personalities and we didn't know that like we actually saw her do this.

Yeah and the detectives are like I feel like she's hiding something. Like they were pretty on point the whole time. What was she hiding? Yeah. Why was she walking right there? But also I think that Hugh Grant's lawyer who was like amazing at her job. She did make some valid points about like what makes Hugh Grant a suspect versus Elena's husband.

Yeah. They both had like reasonable doubt or whatever. Yeah. Or circumstantial evidence. make some valid points about like what what makes Hugh Grant a suspect versus Elena's husband yeah they both had like reasonable doubt or whatever or uh circumstantial evidence yes no I she was a great lawyer she made compelling points just enough to put the plant the seed of doubt in the jurors minds because you don't have to like convince them that it was someone else but you just need to convince them that it's possible it's possible that it wasn't Hugh Grant yes and they were and they were doing a good job. Yeah. You know, I was suspicious of that blonde friend, Sylvia, too, but she ended up being a real one.

No, she was such a real one from the beginning. I knew it. I said to Zach, I'm like, that's a good friend. Like, she had the cab waiting when Grace was at school and everyone was talking shit about her. Paparazzi. And she's like, let's get in the car and let's go. Yeah, no, she was a good friend.

Yeah. And everyone doubted her and, like, said that she was the sad fuck. Yeah, no, that she was a side chick. She was the sad fuck. What's that? that she was a side chick. She was the sad fuck. What's that? Oh, when he said he had two affairs. One was like because they were both really upset. And Haley was like a sad fuck.

Oh, yeah, no, it was 100% Sylvia. It's still, jury's still out. It still could be. I mean, it's a limited series. I don't believe there's going to be a season two. I really don't need one. I don't think there's any need for a season two. Yeah.

And I liked how it all ended. I'm glad I got to participate. But I just, maybe if I had been like the first person to see it, I would be like, this is the best show everyone has to watch it. Yeah. But by being the last person to see it, I'm like, what are you guys talking about? I think collectively everyone was like pretty let down. No, but like, I didn't think there was anything wrong with the ending. I thought it was really good. I thought the ending was great. Like, I think if it had been some far-fetched ending, like, that just would have been stupid. I thought it was smart. I really think it was smart. I'm saying the rest of the show,

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having these things in my home it's nice to take care of your loved ones it really is okay Real Housewives of Potomac actually getting pretty good I I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. I'm feeling, you know, this has been a transitional season for me. Like, I feel like I'm turned on almost everyone I was turned on, and now people I was turned on, I just love. Like, yeah, I really was not a huge Karen Huger fan before this, but I've seen the light and the error of my ways. Yeah, no, she is everything of the sort. Like, and it makes me so sad how the women disrespect her and I especially Giselle like I'm I'm fucking done with Giselle and what's so crazy is the women you know team who like Giselle Robin Candace Wendy like they really really think they

are so right you know and like even at the dinner the the dominatrix dinner they were like um you're on the wrong time you're on the wrong team. And it's like, they can't even see the fact that they might be wrong, let alone the fact that they are completely wrong. And it's like watching and then reading Twitter. And it's like every single person agrees with the fact that like Karen and Monique and Ashley like are the queens of the season. And the other girls are just like out of control in their thinking.

It is so interesting. I wonder like if they've realized if they've seen the other side yet well I feel like a lot of the decisions you make as a housewife on air are as a result of how you think you'll come off yeah and I think that a lot of like especially like Robin and Giselle who are taking this like moral high ground over Monique I think that they're doing that anticipating that the audience will agree with them, like that they want to be on the right side of the audience's opinion.

Yes, plus I think that, you know, Giselle, I think so many people love Giselle. She's really a fan favorite. And I think that she thinks that if she takes this stance, that like the audience will follow. Because there are some people in the Housewives franchises who it's like whatever side they're on is the side that I'm on.

And she thinks that she's that person and she's not that person she's almost always on the wrong side but like we forgive her because she's so great and everything of the sort but she's quickly becoming nothing of the sort no she's so mean she's so mean and her commentary she's just so snide about everyone and everything she's so hypocritical, like I, it's one thing to be mean when you're perfect, but like she is just like throwing stones when she lives in a glass house herself. And a really big one and one that easily shatters. I'm just like, and I don't care about her and Jamal anymore. Like it's crazy.

Like I really was obsessed with her and like I just completely turned on her and I just think she's like so mean. And I hope that at the reunion maybe some of the women start taking like you know backstepping a little bit because the audience is not on their side like at all but who do you think is gonna back down from their position like I don't see it's obviously not gonna be Candace it's not gonna be Giselle it's not gonna be Wendy it's not gonna be Wendy and Robin goes where Giselle goes so like we're stuck we're stuck it's just like I can't believe that all the women, Monique and

Candace, like have not been in the same room. I know. It was so nice to see Monique again. I missed her so much. She's just so fabulous. It's so crazy to me. I was watching the last scene in Portugal when you know Ashley says that she is going to be um... Really writing the statement? Writing the statement. And and they like it's so illogical Candace like how dare you how could you do this to me and it's like Candace you had every right to sue Monique for what she did to you but like to not expect that Monique has that same right to defend herself is insane no no it's literally a level of delusion that I can't relate to it's so crazy like obviously she's gonna protect herself like you put her in this position you

took it to this place right and now it's here and now like if you weren't and you're mad that she's gonna protect herself like you put her in this position you took it to this place right and now it's here and now like if you weren't you're mad that she's just not being like you're right i'm sorry take me to jail if you if you weren't prepared to like have a legal battle then don't take it to court don't take it to court i'm it's shocking and i just have to say like all these women who are being so mean to karen about the wig line and how it like makes no sense that she's releasing a wig line and they didn't know anything about it. First of all, I don't know anything about my friend's businesses. Like, you know what I mean? What, she has to update you every time she writes a deck? It's so, they're so fucking mean.

Like, first of all, when she did Laudan Perfume, she told everyone about it too early. And then the whole time they were like, where is it, where is it, where is it? So this time, she told them about it when it was here. And that's not good enough. We hadn't heard about it. Them saying like it doesn't make sense for her to do wigs. Like she's not the queen of wigs. I have to say, there's something about embarrassing yourself on TV so many times and then really

getting your, now I say she probably has the best wigs in the group. And she came from literally her wig falling off at dinner and her like hairline being so far back. Like I would buy a wig from Karen Ugar. Who knows more about bad wigs versus good wigs than Karen? A and why is that they acting like it's so crazy like both Kenya and um Marlo have hair care products housewives in all over other cities have like hair care skincare makeup Giselle starting a makeup line nobody thinks oh look at Giselle we haven't heard about her makeup line in a while oh I don't think I look at Giselle I want her foundation no one thinks that so I think

that's weird yeah also when Giselle was like um shit what she was like another thing from Karen what two things no I mean like why are they just mad at Karen for wanting to better herself and like become a businesswoman like I don't I don't Karen Karen can do nothing right and not in the way that they want it because she tried it being like telling them from the onset and it was like so much talk of the dom and where's the bottle? There's nothing in it.

It's water. Right. And now she's like, okay, I'll give it to you when it's good and ready. And it's like, this came out of nowhere. Like I just have to say

a lot of them looked really good. Candice actually looked good in that blonde wig. They looked like high quality shit. Like a hundred percent. I would buy one a hundred percent. A hundred percent. They're just so disrespectful towards her. And I love the fact that like when they were at the party.

And I forget what they were even talking about. And oh this really bothered me. I'm sorry this was it. When they were talking about Karen's drinking. And it's always really bothered me. Like if someone doesn't want to drink. They don't have to drink. And if it's because she's embarrassed about what she said the last time she was drunk,

that's an extremely legitimate reason not to drink. And it's also a legitimate reason to not want to tell people that you're embarrassed. Like, and Giselle being like, just own up to the fact that you're embarrassed about what she said when you were drunk. It's like, you're so mean. I couldn't agree more. You're so mean. And they're so irrational. Like, of course she doesn't want to drink around you.

She let her guard down. It came back a few episodes later, the things that she said. And this is in a group where she feels comfortable. Everyone is so mean to her. She learned her lesson. No, I couldn't agree more. First of all, someone's drinking is nobody's business. I was glad that Karen said that.

Like, if I don't want to drink, that should be okay with you guys. I don't need a reason. I don't need an ulcer. I don't need a note from my doctor that I don't want to drink. But her comeback to Robin about her drinking. And by the way, it's clear there's something more because Michael next week also says he knows something about Juan. Yeah, no, when she was like, when Robin was like,

are you worried about what you're going to say when you're drinking? And Karen just whips around and is like, miss a beat. Did not miss a beat. He's like, you should be worried about what Juan says when he's drinking. No, it's so fucking true. And Robin was like, take this wig off. She was like, it's so good. No robin was like take this wig off no it was such a fire comeback and then she just bounced the fuck out of the party she had a few moments of fire receive that towards robin who just like needs to be put in her place

so hard karen comes to the party the dominatrix party where everyone is like dressing wild and crazy and like they're making fun of karen's outfit that she looks like cruella de vil like Karen comes to the party, the dominatrix party, where everyone is, like, dressing wild and crazy. And, like, they're making fun of Karen's outfit that she looks like Cruella de Vil. Like, fuck off. Obviously, she doesn't. No, you're right. Nobody respects Karen. Obviously, she doesn't want to do anything because she's the only one.

Like, literally, Candace comes in in a full garment. It's like, yes, Candace. Candace is half Karen's age. Half. No, and, like, Candace looked amazing. I would never have. Like, sure, there were some outfits at the party that I wasn't thrilled with. Most of them. But, like, when you're dressing in costume and, like, putting yourself out there like that,

like, the last thing you want to hear from your friends is, like, a dig. It just, like, it cuts me deep. No, I know. I know. So when Robin was like, you look like Cruella de Vil, and Karen was Vil and you look like a hooker on the side of the street but you don't hear me saying nothing about that like thank you no I couldn't agree more also there was literally like I'm all for making fun of someone when like they do something weird there was nothing wrong with Karen's outfit like it was all black with the first doll she

looked great anything like because she had a fur collar she's Cruella de Vil like really that's the best we're coming up with limited like no I I just I'm so with you I'm so I'm so annoyed on on on all fronts me too it ain't right especially when you're coming through with hats like that you know that's the thing it's like I'm all for like poking fun at people but if you're gonna poke fun like you have to be ironclad like your business has to be good your finances have to be good your marriage has to be good your house has to be good. Your finances have to be good. Your marriage has to be good. Your house has to be nice. And I'm sorry, Robin Dixon has none of those things. No. Also, I'm all for poking fun at people here and there when they do something that's worthy

of being poked at. But to consistently only. But every time Karen opens her mouth, every time she shares with the group, she's trying to be like open and honest and they just like make fun of her. And they take advantage of it. It's so cruel. I agree. No wonder.

Who the fuck would want to. If I was Karen I would not want to drink like. Ever. Now it's like okay I thought we were cool. I thought we could all hang. But now we're going to like make it weird. Great. This is work for me.

I will just use this show to do my job. Message received. Message received. Like she got the message. She has received. Received. Right. And I'm glad that she left.

She paid the bill. Fuck you. Yeah. That was so good. She was just really on one last last night I mean I understand exactly where she's coming from like these women they come for her like they don't she's an institution they have no respect yeah um I did cringe at the bathtub scene it was very Tamara and Eddie but not nearly as bad but like I loved that Ray like took his start to take his clothes off and I was like please let him shut the door because like he's an old man. And like he doesn't need it.

No, it's enough. It's TV. It's good. And then like we hear Karen's laughter and it's like, that's beautiful. Yeah, I'm happy for them. As opposed to like a moan. Stop. I mean, I think that like Tamara will probably agree.

Like that was one of her biggest regrets. Like that scene was just awful. Yeah, it's never a good place to be. But it's Karen. She's cute. Yeah, but you know a housewife is like super desperate when they get to that place so I just hope that Karen's feeling good yeah and I hope that things are going better for her and Ray and I just hope like the reunion is transformative like for Karen for Monique like for all these things I hope like Robin gets with like she really needs I hope

Giselle gets like called out on all of her bullshit Candace and like a little bit of your hypocrisy is showing like I hope it I hope, you know, Andy does the work. Yeah. No, I hope that he does it on behalf of the fans because it really seems like this is how people feel. Yeah. But it was actually, it was a very good episode and season finale is next week and then we have reunion.

So I'm just looking forward to justice being served. Always. It's always nice to see it happen. Yeah, reunion will be good. Is there anything else you want to say, wrap up, chat? No, I mean, I watched a lot of stuff this week. Oh, folklore. Folklore.

Very good. Yeah, no, really well done. What were some of, like, as a member of the DeSwifty Code, what were some of the codes that you were happy to uncode? Well, obviously one of the songwriters on the songs was a guy named William Barry and ended up being Joe Alwyn, her boyfriend, which is just crazy because she spoke a lot about how like on three separate songs, like he literally wrote like the verse and the

chorus. Like I didn't even know he could sing or play piano or write music. And like the best songs, Betty. Yeah, no. Shocking, first of all. Second of all, what I really liked about the documentary is like a lot of times, you know, Taylor's songwriting is like real storytelling. So it's not hard to figure out what it's what it's about but there's a few songs

that like a legit could not understand like epiphany and hoax um that made no sense to me and hearing her explain them oh like it's so obvious like yeah the comparison about like what her grandfather went through at some um like he was in the war at some battle and like he never spoke about it because it was so painful it's like what she saw like health care workers going through like how like some of them are going to be traumatized after this and like never be able to talk about what happened um that made sense but like at first when I heard the song I'm like what is this girl talking about and then also getting new layers to a lot of her songs like this is me trying um which is such a good song and uh I have so much more respect for it because like that's how everyone

feels it's not just about like celebrity and fame it's just like I'm just trying to get by like help yeah I really liked that she gave a nice shout out to Carrie Underwood when she was talking about like country music that was so funny so funny when she was like that trope like that songwriting like uh tool yeah where you're like there was a man and he met a woman and then they had me like I was dying and I knew exactly what she was talking about

like songs that like paint a picture songs that paint a picture and then like have this like plot twist at the end and that's like where you break the song and then it was bought by me

it was so funny and like hearing her explain that like I just lived for it because I totally knew what she was talking about yeah no that was pretty sweet

the outfits were just not working for me but it's clear that like there is this aesthetic for folklore and it's like very grungy and it's just it's not my favorite but the outdoor look with the hat was good it was good it was the best of the looks but overall they were all quite bad I just I don't get it I really was very interested by Aaron Dessner like he seems like this like a guy who has a lot of stories you know and I think he was like really he's shy it's his long pond studio he owns the studio and the pond and the pond that comes with it and I like that's a man of taste to me yeah and

what I learned was that like he had the track already made for peace and like he just sent her this like weird piece of music because she was like send me like the weirdest stuff you have and she wrote on peace but like he had created that beautiful piece of music they did that a lot where he just like sent her instrumentals and she put her stuff on it yeah but knowing that Aaron Dessner is the king of peace and hearing them talk about it was like obviously it was like honestly emotional for me like I it was Aaron Dessner is a true man of taste and And we got a little cameo from Bon Iver. Yes. Why was he wearing a mask?

Like, he was in his own house. Oh, I don't know. Maybe there was a person with the camera. But he was singing. Like, it was obviously dubbed over because. Oh, you think? There was, like, if you're singing in a mask, there's going to be fuzz. Oh, I thought it was really him.

I think it was dubbed, for sure. No, that's a nice voice. I also thought Bon Iver was like 60. So it was interesting to hear he's like a contemporary. And see. And he's like handsome. Yeah, no. And then he's like a new artist.

Because I was reading stuff about like past Grammy nominations. And he won Best New Artist like a few years ago. Yeah. I like thought Bon Iver was, you know, one of the great rock like idols of the 80s. Oh my God, you did? I just really did. Yeah. No, he you know one of the great rock like idols of the 80s oh my god you did i just really did yeah no he's like one of us no i thought he was like you know steven tyler bony bear are you serious like led zeppelin i mean i never thought about it like too hard but if you had asked me how old is bony bear i would have been like oh 50 60 wow that's crazy yeah i just

like remember when i was in high school he was like a young new guy so like now I was young then so we're like the same age yeah no I I always I also thought it was Bon Iver and I so did everyone else yeah and it should be and I thought that he was just like a legend yeah the legend of the rock was way hard I'm so glad to have like clear that up for you yeah no I mean Taylor did but yeah I did too um you know it was great I'll definitely be watching it again that's the type of content we need in these dark times and I really appreciated it it was very well done yeah any other interesting factoids were there no Jacka Antonoff is just like so quirky you know what I mean yeah when he was performing August just like vibing out so hard

August is like pretty much like the only, that and The Last Great American Dynasty are the only like upbeat-ish songs. And he was just like vibing so hard. Like he was just excited to like dance. Yeah, I have a question. She was in LA. She made her like kiddie committee studio at home in her bedroom.

I don't know what home that was. She said she was in LA. Did she? Yeah, she said she was in LA during quarantine. Why didn't she just go to Nashville where she has a studio, right? Doesn't she have a studio in one of her homes? must but um and doesn't she have a plane yeah it probably wasn't that hard to like get the studio set up and she was like happy in la maybe like her family was

there she wanted to travel with her parents i don't know okay it just like seemed like i and she has a studio in new york i understand why she didn't want to come here but she doesn't have a studio in new york that she did no she films that she always records at Electric Studio like where Lady Gaga like walked out of the Joanne documentary and those like Danna Mundy's got it also I feel like her past few albums it's like every heartbreak had been about like you know Kanye and the cancellation and that really like colored all of her like writing experience and now it's like all Scooter Braun and Scott Lachetta yes in everything she was saying when she was like and this hurt and this like pain I was like betrayal when Scooter when

Scott it's more so Scott is the betrayer because like he when she was like you have a best friend who knows exactly how to hurt you and then like turns around and does that like she's talking about Scott because she has no friendship with my tears ricochet is 100% about Scott but there were so many times when she was explaining songs and she talks about the betrayal and the pain or an experience or a heartbreak and it just feels like she's talking about the big machine every time every single time yeah i didn't really realize how much the lakes is about scooter brawn oh my god so i'd only heard the lakes once or twice and it didn't really resonate with me but then when she explained the song i was like this is my song like where we move to a farm to the lakes where all the poets went to die i don't

belong when you just leave it all and you go live the farm time and like this line is like us those windermere peaks look like the perfect place to cry like that's what we need like we just need a peak to cry on no like the lakes that's that's me yeah you know it's such a good song and they did it that's what she said the poets they did it they left and they just did they like everyone talks about toxicity and they did the thing that would make them happy still working still doing their art but you know in a little cottage with some what's it called wisteria yes on the like on the house yeah yeah I agree um I thought and she said like that's what it's like the message of the whole album is the lakes it was was like the final song. So like. And that, I'm sorry, but like that message, that idea of like leaving it all behind and

saying goodbye to the things that make you unhappy and going to your happy place. Like that's the Farm Chemin lifestyle. And like we just relate. Like she calls it the lakes. I call it Farm Chemin. Yeah. It's the same thing. 100%.

No, like, and it's just this common idea. Like we have so much in common. We truly do. And I really wouldn't, I didn't know that that's what it was all about. And we wouldn't have understood it. No, no, I it's just this common idea. Like, we have so much in common. We truly do. And I really wouldn't, I didn't know that that's what it was all about. And we wouldn't have understood it. No, no, I wouldn't have.

I agree. I think the whole documentary gave me a brand new appreciation for the lakes. 100%. So it was excellent. I highly recommend it. Light a candle,

catch a vibe. Yeah, I didn't have any candles lit, but I still. I had a few. I caught the vibe. Fabulous. What else did you watch? I watched Married at First Sight.

I watched season six. I stumbled upon it and it was like good. You know what it really is? It's Love is Blind, really. Like you would like it because it's the same, like they pick two people by matchmakers. Like there's a lot of intention behind the two people that they set up. It's not really just like picking someone.

And they go, they have a little wedding. They go on their honeymoon. They have to go and get an apartment together. And it's like six weeks. It's just like random someone and they go they have a little wedding they go on their honeymoon they have to go and get an apartment together and it's like six weeks it just like love is wine it really felt the exact same and this season was so good it was good it was like the couples there were some one couple that lasted but one of the guys he was with this girl who was just like so so not nice to him and he was like really really trying and she was just like being awful and I wanted to know obviously they didn't they broke up before even like decision day and I wanted to know what happened to each of them and I went to his Instagram and he's like engaged to

this woman who has children I was like so happy for him and as I'm like looking closer at the photos it's her the marriage counselor from the show oh my god and like she's so cute and they are so happy together and I was like all I wanted the whole time was for him to just like find happiness was obviously not to be with this girl but like there was another couple that was on the rocks I'm like he'd be good with her like right I just wanted him to be with someone and see this journey for him wait that's crazy I was so shook that's crazy and that made the whole season worth it totally totally I've never watched it but people love it yeah and you if you ever got around to watching it you would like it because it's like great reality tv content and we love to see it um it's just I know your content plate is full

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