The Toast - S3 Ep202: Robert Flatts: Thursday, December 10th, 2020

Episode Date: December 10, 2020

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Thursday. Happy Taylor Swift Day. Happy... happy. Happy Turtleneck Day. Claude and I are both wearing turtlenecks. It's inside the Toaster's studio. Oh, yes! Also, yesterday we were both wearing blazers. Yes, blazers. I feel as though we're both so simpatico, erotico, hypnotico. I wear a turtleneck specifically this one like almost every day. So you're kind of like just catching up.

That would be like if I wore, you know, culottes. Like I would never. Hurtful. No, that's like your thing. No. And by the way, I will have you know that when I had to clean out my closets for the move, I do believe the culottes did not make the cut. Oh my God.

They did not make the culotte. I do believe the culottes did not make the cut. Oh my God. They did not make the culotte. Original toasters will remember the culottes, what I like to call gaucho pans, that really kind of shaped the toast in its early stages. Mostly because I wore them on the first day of the morning toast. And you wore them a lot like those first few months.

Yeah, you know, those were hard first few months. And sometimes you just can't help but put on your culottes. And I feel like for other people, it's like, oh, I'm having a hard time. Let me turn to my sweatpants. Or like listen to music. No, no, no. But like in terms of fashion choices, you know, like your choices reflect the way that you're feeling.

For me, like I. Turn to the culottes. I turn to the culottes. The culottes were my sweatpants of the day. And I'm not proud of it. Why? I think it's great. At least it shows like you're interesting. Like I've literally never worn a pair of pants that wasn't like black leggings or black jeans. And like, you're out here just like taking risks. Did they, did it work?

No. But you are so sure of yourself that you just like took risks and put on a pair of pants. Very few people would ever put on. And I think that makes you interesting and fabulous. Wow. That is such a nice compliment. Thank you. No, it's true. I'll take it I'll take it. Like literally people maybe have not noticed I've literally wore these leggings every single day this week and last week. We love to see it I always I'm always wearing these leggings too and I just I thought I don't know I was going for like a mule day but my the color of my ankles are scary like pink and purple. Yeah my skin because I didn't get that like you know I usually get sun once a year and now I didn't get my yearly sun I'm turning green yeah

it's time for some self like fake tanner yeah I've already reached this point last year it ain't easy being green speaking of the grin well that's Kermit the Frog but sure speaking of green no speaking of being green and not having an easy go of it. No, speaking of fictional green characters. Yes, I actually am so glad you brought that up because I really did not want to bring my recap of the very small portion of The Grinch that I watched. I didn't want to drag it into the TV recap segment because that's like a sacred place. I just wanted to get it out right now.

And really just shame on NBC. Seriously. Like, first of all, I put it on an hour late because like I don't, I didn't care. And it was a scene without Matthew Morrison. And you'd think like it would be, you know, better. It was just like, besides Matthew Morrison, like it was horrible. Like explain to me, you know how like the Who's all have like noses that are like. Turned up.

Turned up. Yeah. Yeah. They turn the fuck up. So they not only gave all the Who's turned up noses, they also gave all the who's all have like noses that are like turned up turned up yeah they turn the fuck up so they not only gave all the who's turned up noses they also gave all the who's like big fat asses like they had like curves it was it was crazy like literally everyone had like a huge huge hips and it was like everyone was shaped like pear which was like such an odd choice because like matthew marston's like running around the stage with like a big juicy ass it was like such an odd choice because like Matthew Morrison's like running around the stage with like a big juicy ass it was like so disarming the Grinch did have a big juicy ass but it was this

was like so overt like it like it was just so bizarre he literally looked like someone like like a like a baby with like a big diaper you know like it was so weird and then so it was just like really poorly done I'm sorry I have to. And then Matthew Morrison came down the chimney and like my life was ruined. He was being so extra. Like you, and like, first of all, he was completely disguised, but his voice, he really didn't do a good job

of like nailing the Grinch voice. So it was like, it was Mr. Shoe. Like his voice sends a chill down my spine and it's so distinct that it was, I mean, I don't know what the team at NBC is thinking right now but it was a big fat failure and I was reading tweets online it was so funny like I just love when we can all come together to like make fun of something you know that's so funny I caught bits and pieces really not a lot I did see Matthew Morrison and I just feel like there were so many people there are so many people who would have been amazing at it and even just thinking that like I didn't come prepared with

a list of people but like Hugh Jackman wow yeah would have crushed it Zac Efron yeah but it's like a weird role you have like that's why Jim Carrey made the Grinch so iconic is like you have to be like you can't be like so Hollywood like you have to just like be a freak like yeah and Matthew Morrison tried so hard to be that but he just is so cringy he's just a freak yeah honestly i don't even know if hugh jackman would have been good at it the reason why the grinch is in my opinion like irrep irreplaceable is because jim carrey like no one can do it like him so also like why not jim carrey yeah he's around yeah he doesn't sing i don't think anyone can sing if you try hard enough there's always gonna be another mountain so i just wanted to get that out um my tv recap with solid city and oc jackie

and i both watched oc even though we promised that we wouldn't um we'll do that in the tv recap i just wanted to get it out there like i'm sorry to everyone who was traumatized um by that performance last night and honestly it's been such a hard year I find it really I don't know I find it shocking that that the executives over at NBC would like intentionally want to hurt us yeah yeah it's not nice it ain't right it ain't right well at least it's behind us you know like I feel like there was so much all of this like momentum leading up to this and now it's behind us and we can all like look ahead to 2021 yeah and we're looking ahead to tomorrow which Taylor Swift announced this morning she has a new album we will go into all of that that's why i'm wearing my cardigan skinning in my cardigan remember what i said about anyone singing um yeah no we're gonna

be talking about that forever more and also oh last night i had just a sublime evening if I may um I hosted oh yeah Taylor's parents that's Olivia and Zach Shapiro at my house yeah Taylor was there too I remember not being invited yeah yeah no you were not invited it was I'm really just trying to spend QT with individual um family members these days that's just like something that I'm feeling okay also I want to have you like won't come over so So and I came to you on Monday night. I have never been invited. That's not true. You invited me on Monday night after we had a plan to get together at my house to which you invited yourself over. Like you made the plans and then tried to flip a switch. You tried to be the princess switch. I don't remember that. Princess I remember. That's exactly how it happened okay.

The rest I don't. That's exactly what happened. So I, every time I go over to Olivia's, like I'm just so hungry and she makes such good food. So I wanted to provide that experience for her. And I cooked up a feisty vibe and I used like all of my fancy dishes and it was so fabulous and sensational. You'll have to come over sometime. I think you would have really liked the cuisine, chicken and pasta. Yum.

My two favorite food groups. Yeah. Yum. Well, thanks for not inviting me I I really like I appreciate it you know you'll definitely be not invited again no and that means so much to me and just it's good to know where we stand yes definitely um and tonight's the first night of Hanukkah oh yes if you're celebrating Hanukkah toaster make sure to light those candles and publicize the nace it is so important more than ever it always feels candles and publicize the Nace. It is so important, more than ever, it always feels like, to publicize the Nace and be proud to be Jewish.

Dreidel, dreidel, dreidel, I made you house of clay. And when it's dry, we really need to redo that song because there's so many good Christmas carols. Like cabaret style. And that's our one song, and it's just so sophomoric. It's the same tune as Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star. Yeah it's like it's the same tune as like twinkle twinkle little star yeah no it's the same tune as like something it's a familiar tune and it just goes round and around we need to like honestly like have

someone work on it like a like a jewish musician honestly like no i was gonna say haim but they're not my style who's like a really um popular jewish i heard somewhere sean mendez is like half jewish yeah same with harry styles oh harry styles yeah yeah that'd be good like just give us like a revamp i'm so over this one tune and it's like the only one that's like become even remotely mainstream and it's just like i don't feel like it represents us as a culture and like how cool we are. I actually love this song and I feel like I'm always singing it because whenever I ring up Snatchler I'm like Snatchler Snatchler Snatchler. I made you out of snatch and when your snatch is ready. Oh Snatchler I shall play. Maybe we could be the

ones to jazz it up. Oh, I'm going to get my guitar for a good jam session. By the way, I kept saying publicize the nace. And for those who don't know me, it's publicize the miracle. Ness is miracle. And the miracle of, you know, the candles lasting. So you put your. The oil lasting.

Yeah. So you put your menorah in the window to publicize the miracle of Hanukkah. Just a little fun fact. And I live in a bunker with no windows. So it's hard for me to publicize the n of Hanukkah. Just a little fun fact. And I live in a bunker with no windows, so it's hard for me to publicize the nays. Oh my God, now that I have so many windows, I literally am going to put a menorah in each one. Just publicity.

I'm happy for you. I'm the PR person for Hanukkah. I'm happy for you and all your windows. You should come over to like... Actually, in my journey to like maybe moving, I looked at an apartment yesterday that I really like the building because I actually like have a bunch of friends

who live in the building, which sounds so fun to me. and you know when like you want something to like just work so badly yeah the apartment was just not it except it had like the biggest kitchen I'd ever seen in a New York City apartment it had like a a formal dining room and then like a place in the kitchen to like put a table which is breakfast which is insane like that's just not a thing um and I just I wanted it to be the right apartment it just like would have been so easy if the first one I but it wasn't I'm sorry it was really upsetting I got my hopes like way high up I just want you to know like I've gotten the the boys's hopes up

and the boys being the pups and our husbands and I feel like the toasters now too that like we'll live in the same building soon I tried yeah you're we're gonna have to try again what do you want me to do build a new unit just like be patient for something to come on the market see that's i'm so glad you brought that up the one thing i don't have right now or ever is patience it's like it's probably one of my worst qualities about like how impatient i am yeah and it it impacts every facet of my life like work personal like i just am so motherfucking impatient like I can't wait for anything okay fine I'll tell them to speed it up maybe if you could just like be a terrible neighbor and encourage some of your other people in the building to move out I know only people though

in a two-bedroom okay fine I'm gonna work on it we're gonna we're gonna make this happen for you I found a great apartment in Olivia's building no pets which is like that is just so unbelievably disgusting that oh my god I would never I would never even want to support a building like that he shouldn't even hear those words no I know oh my god vile vile behavior so sick okay well we need to get into things because we have a jam-packed fast five stories today like that even one had to get cut wow no it's crazy one of the ones I sent? No. Okay, good. But without further ado, it is time for the past five stories that you need to know

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plainly, we just couldn't stop writing songs. To try and put it more poetically it feels like we were standing on the edge of the folklorian wards and had a choice to turn and go back or to travel further into the forest of this music we chose to wander deeper in let me let me just try and explain how i'm feeling please please part of course like on the surface, I'm so excited. Like all I ever want is Taylor Swift music. I feel like so many fandoms get like so much music from their favorite artists. And it's like I waited like two years after for Reputation and then two years. Like it's so exciting.

I feel like an Ariana Grande fan. Like we just get so much music. And so on the surface, I'm like so, so excited, especially because like folklore is really like in terms of genre like one of my favorites especially given the year that we've had and I'm just looking forward to getting another 15 songs similar to folklore also I looked at the track titles and a lot of them definitely seem like things I would be interested in like I love a song just named after a woman so we have Dorothy what is that about who knows we also have Marjorie who knows

we also have a song called The Last Cowboy which which I just know is going to be, it's going to be Betty vibes. Like, that's what I'm getting for sure. Oh, wow. We're also getting a music video tonight for the song Willow, which I just love the name Willow. So there's a lot to be excited about. There is.

And I personally just want to say I'm excited about the title of this album because for those of you who are familiar with the ghost of Sneet's past, she haunts the halls of the house we rented in Utah forevermore. and i just love that it's so spooky it's such a great word and i'm glad that it will be like it also reminds me of that josh groban song from beauty and the beast a stunning song if you don't know it so yes i'm here for all those things how else are you feeling now i think if i unpack my feelings a little bit more like i woke up and i was just like feeling very overwhelmed that's what I was thought you were like I don't know what time she posted eight and I woke up like I was on my phone by like 8 45 and I was just getting inundated with

like dms like wake up wake up and it's like I just felt like very anxious and now I'm just feeling overwhelmed because you've worked to do this weekend in digesting a whole new album no it's like I wasn't even gonna stay up till midnight tonight but like now I have to and it's like my sleep is so important to me these days. And I just, I don't know. I think if I really like think about how I feel, I'm feeling very overwhelmed. Like I don't even know if I've had enough time to sit with folklore and I've listened to folklore so much. But like still, it's like I'm, especially after the new Disney Plus thing, like I'm learning more about other songs.

And like I'm listening to This Is Me trying so much more. And that was a song I used to skip. Like I'm just, I'm feeling overwhelmed. Like that's the only word I can use. like I'm just I'm feeling overwhelmed like that's the only word I can use like I'm I'm overwhelmed well I feel like I understand why you're overwhelmed but I feel like because this is a sister album like you'll spend the weekend listening to this you'll be introduced to these songs and then eventually you'll listen to Folklore and Evermore together yeah because they should be the same vibe they're sister albums she also sisters just like us and we love sisters and we're sisters who support other sisters. That's true. Therefore, we have to support Folklore Nevermore. Very true. Very true. Also, there are some collabs on the album. Yes. Bonnie Vare shows up again.

Love. They obviously work great together again. Haim shows up again. How are you feeling? I'm not a big Haim fan, but Taylor can make me like anyone. So like, whatever. I'm like, obviously, the biggest national fan now. And the Nation is also doing a collab which is exciting because Aaron Dessner who was in the folklore for people who like aren't really like insular like in the Taylor Swift world let me explain it to you in the Disney Plus documentary that guy Aaron Dessner who like created a lot of the songs with Taylor and Jack is a part of a band called the national so now I guess he's was working on folklore more as a producer and now he's like a full-on collaborator like him and his band I don't know if other people are in the national but I think there's probably a few guys I'm sure

yeah I think well that's like because he said like that's how they write songs like yeah his band because like I just found out that like um Panic at the Disco is just like one guy really yeah there's no band it's just Brendan Urie that's like his stage name that doesn't sound like what I thought no same it was like shocking when I found out. Stitch told me. Also, I'm pretty sure that Bonnie Bear is a band and Justin's the lead singer. No. I think so. I was doing some investigative work. Just wait.

I'm Googling it. I wasn't even investigating. I just stumbled on it. That just doesn't sound familiar. It's an American indie folk band founded by Justin Vernon. I'm just going to choose to... It's a band. They said it was a band.

The thing is... And it's categorized as a band. That very well may be true. I just will not continue on. Like, I don't want to change what I already think. It doesn't work for me. Boney Bear's a guy, and it's like, I'll know that that's wrong, but I'm just, like, really not interested in, like, resetting how I see Boney Bear.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I understand. It's too much for one day. It's so much. Like, I'm so overwhelmed. Like, I'm. It's too much for one day. It's so much. Like, I'm so overwhelmed. Like, I'm just, that's, just don't even say it.

Like, that's too much for me. Okay, okay, so. That was like when I found out that like the lead singer of Rascal Flatts' name was not Rascal, it was Gary. Like, that was a huge shakeup. Yeah, and you're just finishing processing that.

I'm still not over it. What's the point in naming your band? That's what's confusing. Boney Bear, like, that does sound like a name, kind of. Kind of. But, like, Rascal Flatts.

That's like literally naming your band Claudia Ostrich. Like, well, that makes no fucking sense. That's not a whole name. Rascal Flatts? That's not someone's, like, real name. Why not? It could be, but it's not like, oh, that's not like John Smith. No, it's literally John Smith.

Rascal is such a common name. Flatts is a last name. Rascal? Rascal's not like John Smith no that it's literally John Smith rascal is such a common name flats is a last name rascals not a name it's not a common name wait wait I can't even get into your mindset that rascal could be someone's name. What? Like, it could be, like, tree could be someone's name. Wait, like, rascal's, like, a name? Like, rubber? No.

Wait. Like, rascal is, like, little rascals. You're right. Like, oh, my God, wait. It's a mischievous or cheeky person, especially a child or a man. So like no one's going to name their kid rascal. You're so right. Oh my God.

Oh my God. Yeah. Then I'm saying the word so much. I see how you thought it was a name. No, like I can't even explain what I'm feeling right now. Like I'm so upset oh my god this whole time I don't know I saw the word rascal with a capital r and I'm like oh it's like a name like Robert like Robert Flats oh my god I sound so stupid and you have said this like so many times, I've never really dug deeper.

No, I'm like, you should have. Like, yeah. You should have. I'm so confused. Like, rascals and names. Rascals is just a word. Like, I guess, yeah. Yeah.

I thought it was like a common name. It's not like the most. Little Rascals. I guess that's not a name's a bunch of kids who are being mischievous oh god oh my god i'm just learning so much today that's like really shaking up my psyche and so like now are you feeling overwhelmed i'm feeling so uneasy like everything you thought it's just so upset like everything you thought you knew is being brought into question no it's like the way that i saw the world is completely different now than it was 10

minutes ago. Yeah. Sometimes that can happen. That happened to me with Dachshund. Like I'm telling you. That was crazy. Did you see there was a Dachshund in Salt Lake City last night? In one of the B-rolls, there was a Dachshund running across the way.

I don't watch B-roll. Like I'm always scrolling on my phone. Oh, that's funny. Oh my God. I'm shook up by that. We're just going to give you a minute to process that. No, I'm okay. Like. You know what? Rascal is process that. No, I'm okay. Like.

You know what? Rascal is a similar word to, I feel like. What? Snitch. It's also like scoundrel. So I guess if there was a band called Snitches Ain't, like I would think that that was a weird person. That's a full name.

That's a person to me. First name Snitches, last name Ain't. I know her. Yeah, of course. Oh my God. Okay. So Evermore comes out tonight. Everyone stream it.

And. I'm actually curious just like from the business side of things like um will she be able to sell over a million copies which is like her thing most of her albums have um but because she releases an album once every two years like will she be able to do that twice in a year yes that'll be crazy yes because folklore was so successful folklore was so successful people are saying this is folklore Folklore Part 2. Okay, everyone who subscribed to Part 1 is going to be interested in Part 2. Yeah. And if the music is good, the music speaks for itself. It speaks for itself. You're right.

You know, you can't get people to, like, buy... Like, it's so crazy how that happens. Like, actually, on the one hand, I feel like sometimes people put out bad music and, like, it becomes popular even if you shouldn't. But, like, sometimes you put out a bad album and, like, the people respond. Art pop. You know? Well, that was, like... We've been sitting on that for a while. No, but, like, you know out a bad album and like the people respond art pop you know well that was like we've been sitting on that no but like you know what I mean you can't just like put out an

album and expect it to like soar unless it's really really good yeah but then even still people put out really really good albums that just flop which is so crazy to me with that but that's because we live in a generation of people who have no taste lotus christine aguilera justice for it I feel like in a lot of ways Joanne wasn't successful But it was stunning But it was stunning, beautiful, stunning and smart There's just like a few of those that like Honestly I think one of the greatest albums of all time Is Native by OneRepublic and like nobody's ever heard of it

Yeah but they know the songs from the commercials on ABC Yes I got my mind made up and I can't let go I'm feeling so uneasy like You know what like I was already feeling uneasy when we started the show because I'm having like such cramps. I've tried to hide it from you guys but I couldn't. I'm the American cramper. All of the laughter it's like it's shaking up my cramps. It's truly what they say. Laughter is the best medicine. It's not like my cramps have gone away

but now they're like a little disoriented. They're like what's this other pain in the belly? No I think that cramps like feed off of your depression so like honestly your endorphins are now like kicking in yeah and they're just combating cramps right next to my mital mital mital mital oh my god remember in the beginning of quarantine when I thought that you couldn't take mital because of the acetamethion and um you weren't taking it I didn't take it for my first quarantine period and then I realized like I got my things mixed up. That's crazy. I don't take Midol. Midol is everything.

You need to give it. You need to be patient with it. 30, 40 minutes. Solves all your problems. Really? It helps all of your. I'm just like an Advil queen. But I need to stop taking Advil for like everything in my life. And also you're not supposed to take Advil when you're on your period.

Because it's a blood thinner. So it affects your. Flow. Flow. I can't help it if I have a flow and a wide-set vagina. And flow is also another prestigious end. Yes. Yeah.

And, you know, she gets a bad rap. And maybe that's why she comes hard for me, because she's like, you're too good of an end. Like, I'm the number one end in this group. No, that's not what she does. She's trying to toughen you up, because being an auntie is a lot of work. It's true.

It's true. Okay, ready for our next story? Yes. Tiffany Haddish turned down hosting the Grammys pre-telecast, and here's why. Tiffany Haddish was asked to host the Grammys pre-telecast premiere ceremony, but the comedy superstars said she turned down the offer when the recording academy

told her that she had to pay her own way. Yeah, like not get a salary. Not only did they ask her to host the three-hour live stream event without any compensation, but she tells Variety that they wouldn't cover hair, makeup, or wardrobe for the three-hour event. Three hours? Oh my god, that sounds like torture. She said, all that would have had to come out of my pocket. I don't know if this might mean I might not ever get nominated again, but I think it's disrespectful.

I totally agree. Yes. For context, the pre-show is not hosted by, it's not like organized by CBS. It's done by the Academy, which is a not-for-profit organization. So all hosts, presenters, and performers have traditionally performed gratis, including this year. Okay. Does that mean the person who hosts the Grammys real show doesn't get paid?

I guess so. Or does CBS pay them? Oh, I don't know. That's a good question. But like obviously presenters, performers don't get paid. And I guess that would translate over to red carpet hosts, even though I feel like they're the hardest working people there. Yeah.

I mean, okay, now that, okay, I guess the Recording Academy, like technically, yes, is a nonprofit. It doesn't give off like nonprofit vibes. No, it doesn't. By any means with their big fancy telecasts very profitable vibes it gives off like very like private equity vibes okay so I don't know I think asking people to work for free is a big thing in Hollywood but like it's more so when you're up and coming so it's like honestly Tiffany Haddish would be doing the

Grammys a favor by lending her name and likeness to this pre-show telecast that I never even heard of. You know what I mean? So it's like, okay, if someone like a digital star, like a rising host got this opportunity, they would do it for free because it's worth their time for the opportunity. Tiffany Haddish doesn't need this. She's one of the biggest comedians in the world. So they should really just be like, it is disrespectful. You know, I understand that they're not going to pay people to do their red carpet but then you gotta lower your standards yeah no no I understand you're not going to pay people so don't ask the biggest comedian in the

world like yeah maybe I'll do it yeah no you know what I mean like it's it is disrespectful and just to like offer someone a job for no money like seems fucked up like yeah especially someone who doesn't need to do this it's like they don't need it to Tiffany Haddish will be just as relevant whether and famous whether or not she hosts this telecast or not yeah yeah that that is really interesting though and I feel like a lot of times there are sort of these question marks it's either like with these big opportunities they're either getting paid so much money or they're not getting paid at all right because it's like okay there's someone hosting the oscars like when kevin hart was whoa my water bottle just like popped like when kevin hart was supposed to host it like

in a lot of ways he's always said that was like his biggest dream he would do it for free but it's also like the biggest job in the world so like who has more money than the oscars yeah so i don't know i always think that too like when you go on jimmy fallon like the super bowl for example. It's so much work. And like you're giving the performance of a lifetime. So on the one hand, you should be paid millions of dollars. But on the other hand, it's a stage like no other.

You're going to hit the top of the iTunes charts. So they don't get paid. Are you sure? Yes. But it's sponsored by Pepsi. So I would feel like Pepsi would pay people to use their name and likeness in association with Pepsi brand. The Super Bowl performers do not get paid like last time I thought about this, but let me just double check.

I feel like that's actually one they would get paid for, only because it's sponsored. Super Bowl performers paid. I feel like they do. They're not paid to perform according to CNBC. Okay. Yeah, I just have things like, do people get paid to go on Ellen or Jimmy Fallon?

I don't know. Right. I don't, I don't, I think in general, like, getting paid to do press is not done. A thing. I agree. Or like, do you get paid to be on the cover of a magazine? Yes. So that's where it gets confusing.

But that's because it's like. Like you sell your story. Right. And like, you have day rates for like the photo shoot. Yeah. It's confusing. Yeah. The line is super blurry. We need like a true A-lister to come on the show and just like spill like, what do you get paid for for like the photo shoot. Yeah, it's confusing. Yeah, I don't know. The line is super blurry.

We need like a true A-lister to come on this show and just like spill like, what do you get paid for? What don't you get paid for? Like, what do you pay for yourself? What could you get paid for if you wanted to? Yeah, and it's like, okay, if you have a music label and like, do they pay for your like Suburbans? Like, I just have questions.

Yeah, the Suburbans. Where do they all come from? People are always rolling around in Suburbans, and I'm just curious who's footing the bill. And is it UberXL? Right. That's a great question because when I'm in the Suburban, it's always UberXL. I also feel like a lot of times these days it is UberXL. Like it used to not be. It used to be like Suburban.com. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now it's UberXL. Yeah, I agree. I'm just, I find celebrity culture to be so interesting, but I really find

like the logistics to be even more interesting. Like how do you get from place to place? Like when celebrities hang out, do you guys text each other or do the managers text each other? I think it's a combination, but I'm just curious. No. And Chrissy Teigen does a really good job of, of letting people into the logistics of being a celebrity.

Yeah. She, remember when she used to do those Q and A's? She needs to do another one. Yeah. Okay. This next story. Anyways.

So bottom line, like if you want Tiffany Haddish to do your red carpet, like you gotta pay her because. And if you don't have a budget, that's totally understandable as a non-profit. Maybe reach out to some hosts who could use the exposure. Yeah. Dream smaller. Yeah.

Okay. Next story is like really amazing news for Jessica Simpson. I know. Amazon is prepping Jessica Simpson docuseries and scripted series based on her memoir as part of a multimedia rights deal. So Jessica Simpson is just having a great week. Like she sold she literally sold the rights to her book which like every author tries to do and she sold it to Amazon Studios. Like that is just what's better. No there's and after her

book had like the most amazing year. So Amazon is opening the book on Jessica Simpson after striking a broad multimedia rights deal with the pop and reality TV star. The streamer is working on an unscripted docuseries based on Simpson's memoir open book. So does that mean like a reality show? That's what I was confused about because it's like, okay, it's a piece of content based on her life, her previous life that she already wrote about. But then it's also unscripted.

So a reality show based on what already happened? Yeah. That's not reality. No. I feel like it's a reality show of her now just like yeah they're using buying the book rights to justify it yeah and then also a scripted a coming of age scripted series inspired by the book which sounds her early 20s like rising to fame that sounds so good so so good yeah I'm really excited about this open book was truly one of the best books I read all year,

except for mine, which I don't know if I've spoken about today. I'm writing a book. It's very exciting. You wrote it already. Oh, shit, yeah. It's all in here. The ink is dry. It's called Girl With No Job,

The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst Monster. It is available for pre-order anywhere you can get books, e-books, audio books, and hardcover books. Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Audible, all the places. If you go to the link, girlwithnojob.com slash book, you'll get books, e-books, audio books, and hardcover books. Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Audible, all the places. If you go to the link, girlwithnojob.com slash book, you'll get all the links. And I would really appreciate you supporting the book. I'm a first-time author.

I'm very excited about it. Jackie has read the book. She actually has a blurb on the back. Thea was also on the back. So it's just truly a family affair. Check it out, girlwithnojob.com slash book. Yes, Jessica Simpson's book was one of the best things I read all year. And now it's just going to be like the gift that keeps on giving

because we're getting more content from it yes and more content from her also just want to say Redhead's episode just dropped I dropped it yesterday because it was like early but also still six days late um Invisible Life of Addie LaRue was the book we read this month we're recapping it the book was so good and I think it was one of my favorite episodes that we've done this year one because of the great recap but two we shared all of our other favorite books of the year and I don't want to spoil anything but open book by Jessica Simpson was one of my top three books of the year that I read non-redheads did you um add my book even though it's not published yet no because we tried to do like 2020 titles so so hurtful but your 2021 title why would you want to be like looped into this year I don't know just like

any air time for my book is genuinely appreciated we did talk about the fact that you next month is going to be super exciting because one we're doing a redheads episode first Thursday of January as always snitch's choice for the book I said snitch's book choice was it and someone commented so the book choice is it like with the balloon right no it's Layla by Colleen Hoover which is a book that I've been seeing everywhere it's Snitch's favorite author we haven't read a Colleen Hoover book yet supposed to be like very similar to Verity which everybody loved so I'm just really excited about that but then we also get a bonus episode in January because we are sitting down

our first ever author series we're sitting down inside the inside the Redhead studio I'll wear my turtleneck inside the Redhead studio we're sitting down with first-time author Claudia Aschray and we are gonna get we're gonna be asking her the hard questions about her book so you're gonna want to be there for that and it's never too late to become a redhead also I feel like this episode that we just did is like the perfect kind of episode that you can listen to even if you didn't read the book I always give a summary of the book at the beginning of the episode oh that's smart and usually it's like three minutes this summary was like 10 minutes so you'll know the entire book and then you can follow along with the recap.

Yeah, you should start doing that for like popular books that are read in high schools. So like a lot of high schoolers who don't want to read the books will literally tune into your podcast. We should do like podcast episodes about, but it's like not just a recap. It's like you gotta do the invisible case

of the dog in the middle of the night. Portrait of Dorian Gray. Oh yeah, I actually love Picture of Dorian Gray, but the Odyssey, Iliad. Yeah. But also, it's like, we'll give you the recap, but we'll also answer,

like, DBQs as we always do. Right, it's like the pencil on the table was a phallic symbol. So that we have, like, opinions to give you so you can raise your hand in class and be like,

Sir. Inquisitive. Hamlet was in love with his mother. Yeah, but we'll have, like, Dana really do all that so you sound really smart. That's actually a great idea

for a podcast. Yeah, just like, shit you need to know in high school. No, like, impress your professor. Yeah. But we'll have like Dana really do all that. So you sound really smart. That's actually a great idea for a podcast. Yeah. Just like shit you need to know in high school. No, like impress your professor. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, are you ready for our next story that I chose? I don't know if you've seen it and I'm hoping that I'm about to give you some life changing news. Okay. There is an iCarly revival. Of course I've heard of it. Sorry. Web show hosts keep up with other web show hosts. Set at Paramount Plus with original cast members returning. I can't get too excited about these Vuboots because one, we announce them and I never see the actual content. And if we do, it's like Saved by the Bell and they're just like being cringy and writing

bad jokes. And then it's like the things that I actually want to get. The reboots that I'm actually excited about, Hilary Duff, Lizzie McGuire, like never get made. GCB. Yeah. The whole reboot industry is something that like our generation millennials like love and i just couldn't give less of a shit can i tell you what

i do love about the reboot industry like i love when like it's like i carly reboot and we get to talk about it in the show and we get so excited the cast is coming back and then i never want to pick it up ever again ever you know i do like then like think just the announcing part of like what shows are coming back but like i just know what this is going to be. It's going to be the cast, like, sitting around on Zoom laughing about old jokes. Like, I just, I'm not interested. I'm not. Now, here's what I actually am interested in as it pertains to the iCarly reunion.

The involvement of one Dan Schneider. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not seeing his name in this article. Okay. But I'm very curious about that as well. They're saying that the original series stars Miranda Cosgrove, Jerry Trainor, and Nathan Kresser are all set to appear in the new version of the series. Wait, what about Jeanette McCurdy?

They didn't say Jeanette McCurdy. Okay, because Jeanette McCurdy is very vocal online about, you know, kind of the traumatizing experiences she had as a child actor and as it pertains to certain producers within the network so um that's actually crazy that she's not going to be there because she's just honestly after Miranda Cosgrove she's the most important like and relevant main character for sure I also feel like iCarly was so ahead of its time like girl with a web show yeah and now it's like if there's an iCarly in 2020 like there's a million iCarly's like she's an influencer we are all iCarly yeah she's a youtuber she might have a podcast and it's a million iCarlys. Like she's an influencer. We are all iCarly. Yeah. She's a YouTuber.

She might have a podcast. And it's like, are they really going to delve into the, like it would be actually be an interesting show if it was a show about like an influencer. Yeah. TV has like many a time tried to, like Emily in Paris,

like tried to capture the life of like a social media star. And it's never not cringy. And I would actually be really interested to see see it one time and not iCarly but just like one time it'd be done correctly because it actually is like especially people who are like really successful at their jobs and like get amazing opportunities because of their Instagram like it's a super interesting life and if they're one time like they were able to capture it correctly even like with Tana's series on MTV which I didn't watch but I don't think was very good um She has such an interesting life and it became so overproduced.

Like I just one time want to see like a piece of content, whether it's unscripted or scripted. Like the life of a social media star, like done right. Yeah, I totally agree. But it's always cringy. Like be by hashtag, be kind. Like it's just so lame. Yeah. So we'll keep you probably not posted on this news, but just always exciting.

Yes. Fifth and final story. Claude sent to me some major tech news. Major biz news. Major tech biz legal news. Time for a little major tech biz legal news. Facebook has been hit with two massive antitrust lawsuits from the FTC, and 46 states are seeking

to spin off Instagram and WhatsApp basically just saying Facebook owning Instagram and WhatsApp is somehow a monopoly yeah right that it's too big so these are antitrust lawsuits um one from the Federal Trade Commission and the other one from 48 state attorneys general. Both lawsuits revolve around the company's acquisitions of Instagram in 2012 and WhatsApp in 2014, which at the time got regulatory approval, but have recently come under heavy scrutiny as people are saying like Facebook is too big. And I guess one way to just like make it smaller is to take away those things. Okay. So here are my thoughts as a consumer and just like someone who operates in the digital space. Like Facebook owning WhatsApp is so irrelevant. Like I just have to say like that

is not a monopoly. Not my problem. WhatsApp is a messaging app, but it's not a social media platform. It's an internet, like it's just, it's so irrelevant to this conversation. The real conversation is like, is Facebook owning Instagram a monopoly? And I just feel like at the time of the sale, someone should have objected. And the fact that they didn't, it's like, I don't know. I feel like I believe in the rules. Like they got approved like they should just be able to stay you know what I mean yeah that's like annoying for like someone to like let you like do a certain thing and then take it change your mind yeah give yeah no backsies no backsies Facebook yeah no no backsies FTC what's actually crazy is that I think if you look into it like the whatsapp acquisition is

actually a much bigger deal really than Instagram yeah Instagram. Yeah. But just like in our world, we're like. Irrelevant. Irrelevant. And like Instagram feels so big to us. Whereas like Instagram compared to Facebook is actually like kind of small. And I think it's really interesting. I think we're at an interesting place in the technology slash government landscape. And what happens here will really determine like how things go forever.

Ever. Forevermore. Yes. Wait, also though, like now that I think about it, Facebook owning Instagram, like, okay, is definitely a conglomerate. But I don't think I would consider it a monopoly given like the fact that there are a few other

like big social media players like TikTok, Twitter. Like it's not like there's only two apps that are popular. Google, YouTube. Google, YouTube. Right. So why is Google owning YouTube? Okay. But Facebook owning Instagram is not.

I mean, this is what I'm saying. Like this could be, you know, something if it's taken away from them, then maybe Google and YouTube could be next yeah that's interesting it'll be interesting to watch this play out i gotta go home and turn on smbc and then also it's like so if instagram is no longer part of facebook like will it go back to just being like a photo sharing app and they'll stop trying to sell us everything and they'll remove shops from the bottom like you know they just got like so crazy and that's a facebook effect no you're 100 right non-chronological timeline I don't know her uh algorithm Instagram

shop even though I love using the feature on our morning toast shop if you're looking for morning toast merch head over to shop morningtoast.com um hate the feature hey like every fourth post ad that's a Facebook feature yeah but I also feel like Instagram became like a major platform because of Facebook's influence you know and so all the things that annoy us, I guess also contributed to its massive success. Yeah. Every time they change shit up, it's like so annoying for us,

but it always in the long run, it sounds like really big brother, like knows what they're doing, you know? Yeah, but also we just like probably become accustomed to whatever change it is, even if it's not like most beneficial because we're addicted to these platforms. Right, that's like Apple,

like with all their new products, like it's so annoying, but like in the end, it's such a good product. That actually feels like technology advancement. Like they are, you's like Apple, like with all their new products. Like it's so annoying, but like in the end, it's such a good product. I know, but like that actually feels like technology advancement. Like they are, you know what I mean? Yes, yes, yes. Okay, well those were the fast five

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Never go to the post office again. Love it. All right, let's go in order. Real Housewives of Orange County, blurry episode, Zoom episode. Everyone coming for Elizabeth Vargas' throat, and I'm just like not fucking here for it everyone on this show has lied more than anyone else and now we're just like just like and complained and been divorced and and took years to get to the other side and honestly

um i just like i i couldn't believe that bronwyn stooped as low as she did as to look up someone's financial records like we're like she's just trying to be like Megan King Edmonds who was like the PI of the real houses of Orange County and she was annoying when she did it Megan King Edmonds but she was always right and also she she came with some big stuff like to come with the fact that Elizabeth's house is on Airbnb or Vrbo like who like that's so judgmental of you especially when like you're all renting your homes right you're all renting so like let's just you are the Airbnb customer oh it's a pot calling the kettle black yeah so I'm just like it's like there's really nothing going on this season and I think the women are like worried about being boring so they're just like coming for Elizabeth Vargas and like yes she's

been a little inconsistent in like her map but she doesn't owe these women anything and I just feel like they're all just accusing her being this like evil person just for being like slightly inconsistent in her retelling of history as it pertains to her marriage when just like all these women have done so much worse to each other and I'm just I'm not here for like this yeah and honestly the only people who are really I feel like protecting Elizabeth Vargas is obviously Kelly because they're friends but then weirdly Gina like at the last minute like turning around not going to Kelly's house and then telling Elizabeth what Bronwyn did I actually really appreciated that emily also she told um elizabeth what bronwyn did yeah it was just shannon and bronwyn yeah so a few things about the episode

first of all you can really tell that all of the housewives are produced by different production companies because of the way that they're handling quarantine filming and like oc put so much emphasis on like day 10 day 20 it was like the worst possible thing that we could have watched what we've been saying this whole time that we did not want to see okay but I also think that they um of all the shows on Bravo they were the worst time the worst timing in terms of like being in the midst of filming and then having to go out for three months yes I I agree with that um but they spent the whole episode with like zoom stuff and so as it pertains to Elizabeth midst of filming and then having to go out for three months. Yes. I agree with that. But they spent the whole episode with like Zoom stuff. And so as it pertains to Elizabeth, so I didn't wind

up watching last week. And so like my OCD is flaring up, but I'm going to go off of what I saw last night because I agree with you. I think they're being so hard on her and like not giving her like five minutes to process her divorce when like Shannon took five seasons. Gina. Gina's still processing it it's so hypocritical so hypocritical and i think gina did apologize which i think gina like saw her own hypocrisy yeah and did apologize over the zoom and i forgive her and i and i can move on from it i think that bronwyn one bringing up those financial records and also like now that she's had like a few good weeks is like being like well like she's being an asshole judgmental

she was like on my first season i was lying like she thinks that she's like godly now that she can like see just who she was for the last year and it's like that's really great that you're in that place but to turn around and like use it against someone else is actually the worst and meanest thing you could do. 100% and you know what I'm really struggling with how to feel about Bronwyn because so much of what I feel like she's putting out is like so authentic and I really appreciate her transparency in in her journey but I do feel like she's being a little too honest and like when she shared that she has physically assaulted her husband like like that's just like not okay and like that's definitely something you should keep to yourself yeah I agree I appreciate her being honest in front of the cameras I think that like

when you come on the show, it's like the one requirement and she is giving us so much, but I also feel like there are so many things. It's like even, I mean, just sharing that detail that she had physically assaulted her husband on multiple occasions and then just moving on from that. Yeah.

It just, I didn't know how to feel about it. Yeah. And then also like her going into the closet and talking about how she feels trapped in her marriage like in like and just it it's a little too honest yeah it's like it's not the Bronwyn and Sean reality family show and so like to go from the those moments to like back to the girls and then Bronwyn's going in and like casting judgment on Elizabeth's life I'm like this there's a lot it's a lot I agree and you know what I actually don't think it's funny when like grown women don't know how to do laundry.

I actually think it's like one of the like least funny most annoying things and it's like Bronwyn you're 45 years old and you have seven kids and you don't know how to do laundry. Like that's not funny TV content. That's actually just embarrassing. Yeah. And it's like it's just not funny. Like I don't think shit like that's funny. Grown women or men. Yeah. Oh sorry yes I don't mean to. No I didn't think that you you were the laundry machine is a very simple simple machine no and it's like you literally need it to live so I don't know how anyone could go 45 years without knowing how to at least do one load okay I understand you're not doing laundry every week you have a housekeeper that is so acceptable but like to not literally know how to use the machine

she was definitely like trying to be funny I didn't believe that she didn't know is it a heavy loader low load like that was just so stupid I hate you like that no in in the one episode that I missed like my feelings on Bronwyn have started to really change and I don't know if it would have been like less of a drastic shift if I watched last week's episode but I just I was so I she's been so open and honest and I think it's admirable and it's so admirable but then to use those learnings and to use them against someone else I just think that it's mean. And that's not real growth. Yeah.

I totally agree. Also, I found it, I didn't like, she was also being really judgmental to Kelly. So Kelly is like running around town. This is the beginning of COVID. Oh, yeah. Flying to New York. And you would think, okay, Bronwyn's going to judge Kelly. What are you going to judge Kelly on?

Maybe not taking the pandemic seriously, like flying in the middle of a lockdown no she's judging Kelly for leaving her kid at home not at home with her father while she's with Rick and it's like actually no Bronwyn I don't agree with you on that first of all the kid has two parents and that's like when people give Amanda Stanton shit like for like traveling it's like no the kid has a parent like another parent and the kid would be with that parent and then Kelly would be alone so she has these two she had one week to herself what is she gonna do she's gonna be with her man yeah so it's just like who's also alone bronwyn like just being so judgmental i've never leave my kids at home alone and then i love like seeing people on twitter like bronwyn said i would never leave my kids at home no she said i would never leave my

kids in the middle of a global pandemic right and cut to like if you look at her you look at her Instagram, she's been, like, all, she went to Salt Lake City, she went to New York. She went to D.C. She's been with, like, Housewives from every franchise over the last eight months, which I've actually seen and I thought was interesting and strange, but it's even stranger coupled with the judgment that she cast on Kelly for traveling. Yeah. Now, on a lighter note, I do think that the pandemic and quarantine is so good for Gina because her extensions are out. Yeah. Now on a lighter note, I do think that the pandemic and quarantine is so good for

Gina because her extensions are out. Yeah. And her hair is just like not getting blown out, no heat, no bleach, and it's really letting it grow. Because then in her testimonial, she's not wearing extensions. It looks like her hair has grown a little bit and it looks very healthy. And I just want to say I'm very excited about the prospect of Gina's hair you know having a good day but I'm nervous because I saw a comment on Instagram where she said that her hair like get brace yourself because her hair is going to get worse this season it was from a few weeks ago and so I feel like maybe when the salons open back up she gets a little too excited yeah that's bad I'm nervous that's bad but I agree with you like seeing her short hair like there's nothing you could do for your hair that's better than just

leaving it off and just not touching it like no heat and no no coloring and I just I think this is very exciting I think it could be very good for her yeah also oh sorry you go Shannon yeah like having that like meeting like first day back and we're just gonna like come in with all the things people have been dming us about Elizabeth over the last three months also her being like I have PIs like no you have people who are sending you Instagram DMs. Like it's not, it's not that impressive. Also, I do feel really bad for Shannon because she's taking the virus so seriously because she's immunocompromised. But I also feel like she is, um, really like, uh, panicky in the sense of like, she's like her kids look up to her. She has so many people in her house and I feel like she's

like making everyone scared. Like, do you know what yes I do what's the word I'm looking for like where you're just like hypochondriac no but it's like you're inducing like where you're like a mom is supposed to calm everyone down and she's like making everyone so nuts yeah like almost like not instigating but like like inciting fear like yes you know what I mean I do know what you mean and I understand on the phone just like screaming crying it's like I understand that it's scary and that you have more to lose and you're and I totally get that but she worries me no I agree and I understand she was in her home and she had these very strict rules and I think that's very fair but like when her daughter tested positive and she's on the phone like hyperventilating screaming crying to

Kelly and I was almost like mad at her child like for getting sick well her kids were being irresponsible running out of the house when they when they have a mom who's very at risk and you're running to a party like in the middle like that wasn't cool yeah no it wasn't cool but like that's just the way that she was handling it and also like when they flash back to all of the other times where she's overreacted yes about stuff my left eye it just it's like calm down Shannon she was really being a Karen like yes she is the Karen yeah no and I thought that way I felt that way about like her at Costco yeah that's what you said last week and I totally saw just the way that she like her energy she's on such high alert and and by the way and that's not to say like what's going on isn't scary it and especially at in March it was very

scary especially for someone with a lung problem I just feel like like, you know, as like the leader of her household, she really just needs to like take it easy. Yeah. She's, it's like not a way to live is to like be so panicked. Living in fear. And make everyone else so panicked too. Yes. Also just Emily just remains the queen of my heart and soul.

Watching her and Shane like have a great few months together was so nice. And I really think they're so cute. It's just so funny because it really shows like how reality tv editing can make it look one way or the other because it's like we're now at two extremes one where it was like this marriage isn't gonna last and now it's like they're so cute he's vacuuming you know yeah I actually just really like them and I feel like they've editing has like left him alone this season and like he just doesn't really get involved um and I think it's really good for their marriage and I'm just like I'm so happy happy for Emily yes I agree um so other than that I was just like having PTSD I was having so much PTSD also from like the different stages of like information that we knew like even when Kelly

was in Times Square and obviously she's not wearing a mask but that was because that was a time when like you were encouraged not to wear when the women met up in the park and I'm like girls put your masks on but it was literally like April and that was when there was like a shortage of masks and if you were wearing one that was like a huge you were taking one away from someone who needed it more than you so like just watching how our culture culture and like the information that we have has changed over time it was just like it was definitely bringing back to a dark place not gonna lie yeah it was very dark and I'm just really looking forward to like them being out of quarantine and like. Yeah, Lake Arrowhead.

Let's go to Lake Arrowhead. Lake Arrowhead looks great. Can't wait. Now, let's just transition to like the literal premiere franchise, like the diamond in Bravo's portfolio, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, which last night, again, didn't disappoint. Never does. Never could. Love the women so much.

The luncheon, we picked up part two of the luncheon and things definitely got weird I at first was really on Mary's side um and now I've completely turned on Mary literally that's the thing about Salt Lake City is like in the beginning I was so unclear on who I like and now most of I've settled in on who I like but Mary and Jen I... The thing about a new franchise, we're still not cemented in our feelings about people. And I agree, I was on Mary's side and then she couldn't accept. And maybe there were things that we didn't see at the table

because I was watching Watch What Happens Live with Lisa and Meredith. And obviously I think there was way more conversation. But part of being right is accepting an apology and moving on. No, but see, I was with Mary until a certain point because Mary didn't get an apology. Meredith did. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

So it's like all, I could tell like Mary was annoyed. It's like you're going to have this kumbaya moment and not even acknowledge me and not even give me an apology. And this is my luncheon and I just gave you a little bit of time. So it's like I understood. But then she just took it to a place that was unacceptable. Right. And so the lunch went sideways.

And I don't think it accomplished what, I think it started out really nice. And it didn't accomplish what it set out to. But what I was saying about opinions changing about people, like, I'm on this journey with Lisa. Yeah. Because when I watched the first episode, I was like, I think she's going to be one of my favorites. And then I saw her on Watch What Happens Live, and I'm like, no, she wants this too bad.

Yeah. But then in the last few episodes, like, no, she wants this too bad. Yeah. But then in the last few episodes, like her crying with Meredith. Agreed. And her like just talking, like in some of the conversations with her husband, I'm like, there's something really sweet and endearing about her.

And I feel like she's a good friend. But then also I don't like the way that she treats Whitney or Heather. Yeah, and she's definitely like a little bit of a thirst monster with her emphasis on Sundance. Right. And so like I was feeling really conflicted, but I was starting to feel like, you know what?

I want to make this work. I want to make it work. And so her and Meredith were on Watch What Happens Live. And so I was like, I want to watch her on Watch What Happens Live. Maybe it will undo the opinion of the last Watch What Happens Live. And she like, first of all, the two of them like looked amazing. They're so cute. Meredith cut her hair.

So now it's like way easier to tell them apart. Meredith did amazing on Watch What Happens Live. I want to say like andy had really only questions for her and like she just explained everything so like concisely because obviously she doesn't have like an infinite amount of time and just has an answer for everything and i just was really impressed by her i watched the first 10 minutes and i agree meredith is a queen lisa was being a cutie and i was just like okay and she seemed a little nervous so I was like okay cute cute and then Andy asked them has your life how has life changed for you since joining the show like all right is it different in Salt Lake City now like what is it like in the town and they were both like silent for a second and Lisa was

like I don't think it's really changed that much but I love being on the show and it was like so what it was so weird question it was so weird why not acknowledge I'm sure like Salt Lake City is turned upside down by this she was like I'm so happy to be on the show and it was like the exact thing that I've been worried about with her yeah I don't know I felt like Andy felt it too I swear no Andy is like Andy probably more than anyone gets inundated with like thirst monster generals at right he turns a corner I think he had a moment where he was like um what have we done what have we done yeah and then Meredith answered and she was like yeah no I'm definitely way busier this is like a full-time

job and a half and um everyone knows who we are come up to us and recognize us and so she was just like honest and it just like it was a glimpse that I just could have lived like to not acknowledge that like you were nobody before is like, that's worrisome. Yeah. And so you should watch it just because it's just like a weird thing. And I really, I do want to, I'm liking her on the show. So I'm just going to try and go by that. And I feel like watch what happens.

She's just so cute and pretty. Like what's not to like? But I do need her to come around to Whitney and Heather because I'm just obsessed with them. I think Whitney is like. That's the crew. So cute. Next week, Lala Kent and Katie Maloney show up.

Oh my God, yes. What? And Lala and Whitney, I guess, are friends from Utah life. Because Lala's 28, 29, and Whitney's 30. So I'm so excited for that. By the way, in another life, I know we keep saying we could see, that we could see Lala on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. We could also see her now on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

Yeah. Wait, that's so interesting. When they showed the preview, I was shocked. I'm so excited. And it does feel like Sundance, like, Lisa's going to be annoying. Annoying, yeah. But maybe we'll see her in her element and we'll feel differently. Jerry's still out for me on all of the women.

Because, again, like, my opinion really did change on the drama between Mary and Jen last night. Yeah, because the 7-Eleven comment was so bizarre. Yeah. And honestly, Jen Shah's husband, like, everyone needs a husband like Jen Shah. Like, someone who just fucking grounds you and, like, is so, like, ethical. And, like, he talks to her,

like, probably how he talks to his, like, college team. Like, just trying to, like, put them on, like, the right path. And I don't know. I feel like everyone needs someone like that in their corner. And I feel like she actually has a really good marriage. Ain't it good to be the coach? Ain't it good to be the coach ain't it ain't it good to be the couch um that's literally that energy like she is um Connie Britton Connie Britton and he's Coach Taylor yeah and he's just like spitting truth but I do have to say like Mary I was really turned off on

her especially by the 7-Eleven comment and just like her general unwillingness to like stay in a conversation do you know what I mean? She's like kind of messy and all over the place. But when she sat down for dinner or drinks with Heather and started talking about like why the comment about grandmother fucker, grandfather fucker was like so hurtful and she started to cry. Like I really, I feel like there's a lot we don't know.

And like even just her like saying on TV, like when I had to marry my grandfather, like I really didn't want to. Like making it seem like obviously I don't think that this is normal but it's my life and just like respect it yeah I actually felt really bad for her so it's not like she married her grandpa last year like it has been 20 years they have kids grandpa loving yeah and so just step grandpa loving yeah so let it go one but two I also feel like and maybe we missed this but Mary should have brought that energy to her luncheon where she asked everyone to be open and she could have said to Jen like instead of waiting for the apology she could have said to Jen this is why

it hurt me you said this about me and by the way Jen said it to someone else not to her so maybe in Jen's mind she doesn't know that Mary heard it maybe so if Mary came to her and said I heard that you said I'm a grandfather fucker. And I just want to tell you why that hurts me so much. Here is my story. Right. Maybe they could have seen each other. Like everyone showed up to the luncheon and Mary told everyone to be open and honest.

And Mary just showed up defensive. And that's just not a good combination. And that's why it was so toxic. Or maybe like they hadn't gotten to Mary yet because it felt like they were starting at the other end of the table. They didn't get to anyone they started with jen no they had lisa who was like talking about her like um her all of her success and then heather was talking about something and then jen and that's where last week's episode ended i want to talk about heather for a second okay i actually feel like heather is like such a good mom and i really appreciated her

refreshing take on like religion and motherhood like just letting the kids are now like old enough to make their own decisions. And like letting them guide the way. Like not forcing them to go to church. Not forcing them not to go to church. She's like you want to go? I'll go with you. But you don't want to go?

We don't have to go. I just felt like that was very refreshing. I really appreciated seeing that. And when her kids were like worried about what people would say. Like when they do eventually show up. And she was like well that's not a reason to go or not to go. Like go because it's what's in your heart or don't. Her younger daughter was funny as fuck.

Like she, she's a character. She's honestly like, I feel like even though I love her so much, Meredith's son like is so thirsty and I feel like he comes on the show and like wants to be memed. Whereas like Heather's daughter just like accidentally was the star of last night's episode.

And Brooks is like quaking in his house. Like he's so angry, you know? I totally agree. And next week with the fashion show, like, I'm sorry. Anytime there's a real housewives season one fashion show it's not good it's not good but it's also a rite

of passage like it's if you're not at like some janky you know studio space with like a fake stage making the first ever Salt Lake City fashion week like that's not a real franchise so I do feel like it will be cringy but it is truly a rite of passage. I agree. But I totally agree that Brooks is thirsty. He's annoying me now. At first I thought it was funny. Now he's annoying me.

That's what I'm saying. Especially after seeing Jen Shaw in episode one wearing his designs and supporting him. And now he's like housewife. Like, he's talking shit. She's fucking wearing your clothes. And she wears the best. Like, Chanel, everything.

A hundred percent. That was disrespectful. Also, Mary's outfit to dinner with Heather. Mary's outfits are all over the place but this is what actually Lisa said

on Watch What Happens Live because she has great pieces. She has great pieces which she very much does. Yes I agree. Okay well that's all we got for you.

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