The Toast - S4 Ep119: Red Flags: Wednesday, July 7th, 2021

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

Olivia Rodrigo is dating producer Adam Faze (Page Six), Zendaya and Tom Holland are dating Kim Kardashian Shutting Down KKW Beauty to Launch 'Completely New Brand' (PEOPLE) AGT: Matt Mauser Gives Tearful Audition a Year After Wife Christina's Death in Helicopter Crash (PEOPLE) RHOP Alum Monique Samuels Mourns Death of Pet Parrot T'Challa: 'The Pain is Intense' (PEOPLE) Scarlett Johansson is pregnant, Subway grasps for a lifeline as Americans shun again brand (Crains) Real Housewives of New York Recap Dear Toasters Advice Segment The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the morning toast. Yeah, it is my favorite fucking day of the week, you guys. What day is it? Wait, what was that? It's Hump Day! Though you would never know it because the man of the hour is not here. Yeah, Theo's not here, which is usually our Hump Day mascot. I just had some, I had a crazy busy morning, you know, meetings, meetings, meetings, meetings, meetings, meetings all day. Errands, errands, errands meetings, meetings, meetings, meetings, meetings all day. Errands, errands, errands. And it's like sometimes being, and this is going to be terrible to say, but I know my fellow dog moms will probably be able to relate to it.

Sometimes being a mom has to take a backseat. Yeah, that's a good message. Bless you. And I sneezed on it, which means it's true. Yeah, no. And also Theo, like he wanted the day off after his long weekend. Like he's just struggling to get back into the groove. Yeah. Like so many of us. get back into the groove. Yeah.

Like so many of us. Yeah. But it is hump day. So by the time the show is over, we'll be over the hump, which you just absolutely love to see. And by the time you're done watching this, it's probably lunchtime or depending on like where you live, like snack time or maybe even depending on your schedule, like time to go home.

So just let this episode carry you through the treacherousness but also the joy the beauty that is hump day because we have an amazing show of course we've got the fast five stories and they're so fast and they're so five there's definitely five of them can't deny it no and we also have a tv recap of real housewives of new york and i will really do everything in my power to have something to say about it because there was really nothing that really went on last night except I think um things might be turning around and I think Vernon Shaw is a good addition that's where my feeling I'm so sorry um I think that's where my feelings are at okay cool we'll talk about it agreed not much to say I'm slowly creeping towards not watching anymore last night I almost tried to get away with it but

I realized I did have the time yeah because I finished my book The Lion's Den I finished it at like 10 o'clock it was so good you have to read it if you like you know thriller mystery and glamour The Lion's Den by Catherine St. John it was so good like every I don't want to give an I went into it totally blind so I don't want to give anything away but I just want to say like it just it pays off oh I'd love to hear that um and then we also have dear toasters because it's Wednesday we have three brand new submissions from you guys and I just love kind of spreading my gospel through dear toasters and I'm really excited about it I'm really excited to hear what's going on with you guys how we can help how we can be there for you and support.

But otherwise, it's just another fabulous day of the toast and it's Olivia's birthday. Yes, our big sis is turning 30, which means that's in our future. Yeah. It's crazy when the first one turns 30. Like, that's about to be us. That's crazy stuff.

Not to make Olivia's birthday like about me. No, no, not at all. No, I would never. But like, me? Never, no. Never, no. But it is your birthday soon yes it is and following up from yesterday's episode um i did sort of figure out what i wanted to do for my birthday i'm about halfway there so if you haven't received an invitation and you think that you deserve to please reach out to me because i probably just forgot no ill will no ill will okay cool maybe some but no but if you have Claude's number if you have my number and like you want to come to

my birthday party like just make sure you text me because I am planning it all very like haphazardly yeah and it's really not like uh I'm not trying to be mean I just like probably forgot that's pretty mean also though yeah and I'm not gonna Like maybe some of you, I was trying to be mean. And maybe some of you are forgettable. Yeah. And that's kind of on you. Not on me. I'm just a human. Okay.

Within a readily impaired memory. Right. So if you want to go ahead and be forgettable towards a girl who can't even remember. You're setting yourself up for failure. And again, that's on you. Yeah. But again, if you find yourself constantly being forgotten text me don't forget that's really sweet of you Claude so I do what I can

I do what I can for the people thank you well we're excited to celebrate your birthday too we all want to celebrate each other's birthday I think we all have birthdays this week but we do want to wish Olivia a very happy birthday you know there's a chance that she watches this because sometimes she does no because she's actually a supportive sister right sometimes she doesn't but sometimes she does so maybe she'll tune in today wondering if we're gonna like give her birthday shout out happy birthday live we love you so much like miss k's mom everything of the sort you're the best like thank you for the pleasure of making us aunties thank you for bestowing the honor upon us of being aunties and also just like popping out like the most premium kid. Like I'm

sure everyone's kid is great and beautiful. Yeah. But they're not, Kayla. No, they're not. Oh, and that's a fact. And that's on what? Period. That's an actual fact. Yeah, you know, it's not an opinion. It's a fact. No, but that's a harks back to yesterday's story. Yeah. Facts. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. That was a dark story. I liked it. I enjoyed every moment I get to spend with you. I didn't hear anything from the toasters one way or the other and no news is good news and I'm gonna take the win I couldn't agree more like sometimes it's nice to just like talk about nonsense because like I don't really feel like sometimes having an opinion because then like I just have to deal with like people like telling me that I'm wrong yeah also when in the words of Tamara Judge that's my opinion

we talk about so much nonsense the least we could do is like switch up the nonsense in which we're talking about business nonsense business nonsense and also just having different conversations you know yeah nor like normalize having different conversations normalize switching it up switching it up well i think we have like a nice mix today actually i'm really excited about the stories today a lot a lot to chat about so i think without further ado, where are you? Not here, obviously. We should get into the past five stories that you need to know

before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. And I don't really have a savvy transition for today's... Oh my God. No, I'm kidding. I'm not in the mood to be annoying. Today's episode is brought to you by... Is everything okay? No.

I'm really stressed. Like, my birthday is really stressing me out. Oh, are you really? Yes, because like, the edit sorry sorry manscaped just give me one minute because like and this is the thing with birthdays we spoke about this yesterday like the older you get the more dumb you feel and then I was like really hell-bent on having a party and I know like these are not real problems so don't like come at me I'm just expressing my feelings on my podcast and if you don't like it you. I'm just expressing my feelings on my podcast. And if you don't like it, you are more than welcome to leave.

There's millions of others. They're not as good, but have fun. They're not daily, but enjoy. No, and they don't try as hard as we do, but fine. Have a good time. They're not sisters. They don't have pre-chan. They're not available on Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher.

Okay, I'm done. So I was like, I really want to have a party. And then when I made the decision to have a party and started sending out invitations I'm like wow I wish I wasn't having this party because like you know three people said they couldn't come and I'm like okay nobody's coming and then I just got like a little insane like inviting people I've never met like on Instagram I just got desperate wow right is that what you're saying I don't know if I would say you just said inviting people on Instagram which actually makes me think not what I thought you were gonna say which is like three people couldn't come. So you started inviting.

You guys, you said tier B. I haven't gotten to tier B yet. So you didn't get desperate. You got ambitious. I'm getting there. Ambitious. I got ambitious. I just wanted it to be like a fabulous party.

And there's so many people like that I talked to on Instagram who, yes, I've never met, but I think they should come to my fabulous birthday party. I agree. That's how Instagram works. Yeah. So now I'm just like not that girl, you know? So I'm like having a lot of anxiety. Like, you know, are people going to think it's weird like that I invited them even though I've never met

them I don't think so think about being in the other person's shoes say this person that you you know communicate with on Instagram I wouldn't think if they invited you to their party you'd be nothing but flattered okay I wouldn't think it's weird right and but like if they don't come like I'll be sad but don't take it personally okay no I just I'm like having anxiety because like I'm a grown woman having a stupid birthday party and that's kind of my cross to bear. Yeah. And, but you made this choice for yourself.

Thank you for reminding me of that. No. And like the thing is about choices, stick with them. Like. Oh, I can't. Have confidence in your choice. I have no courage of my convictions. Like none.

Have confidence in your party. I'll try. Will you invite some people? Sure. Okay. No, like whenever I'm having an event and I need people to show up, like Jackie just taps in. You know in that scene in Legally Blonde where like all the Delta Nu sisters, like it's like

a million boxes and it's like four girls call four girls and then it's like 8,000 people show up at the Capitol or whatever. That is the Colgate network. I'm like, Jackie, I need some people to fill up this party so I don't look like a loser. And she invites everyone. She invites like one person from college and then they all show up. Yeah. So I'll let you know if I need the Colgate security line. The emergency reserves.

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Oh interesting. Yeah and then this is where Olivia Rodrigo and her mans just kind of blew the whole story open. Got it and also Travis and Courtney were at Disney. Yes yes yes with the kids. And so I guess Disney is where you go if you want to take your relationship public. The driver's license singer is dating Hollywood producer Adam Faye's. Page Six has confirmed the couple stepped out together at the Space Jam, a new legacy premiere at Party at Six Flags Magic Mountain in California last week. The singer and production company must be nice. Co-founder have known each other for years and began as friends, they're told.

So a lot of the rhetoric I'm seeing online is people concerned about their age difference he's 24 she's 18 and I don't know I'm a little like I'm a square sometimes but like I don't think this is a big deal no this is not the worst that we've seen this is not Amelia and Scott and I just feel like anything remotely less than that should be applauded should be applauded because we know how bad it could be yeah I guess they're just like concerned because age was so much of a factor in her previous relationship that we now know like how toxic it was and how bad it ended. But honestly, like when I saw the age difference, maybe I'm just like jaded now. I really didn't think it was that big of a deal.

Like 24 year olds are really young. I agree. And when I first saw, of course, when I saw she was dating someone, the first thing I went to look was his age because she's so young. And I don't think it's like the craziest age gap, but I will say there is a huge difference between an 18 year old and a 24 year old. Like, yes, fundamentally. But I do think that, and again, this is maybe just me making excuses.

And, but I really do genuinely, genuinely believe that Olivia Rodrigo is not like an average 18 year old.'s so successful and like when you grow up in the spotlight like you do age faster you are more wise for the most part not everyone but she definitely gives me that vibe of a girl like wise beyond her years like in the way that she writes and just like she really is very mature so I don't know maybe I'm just making excuses for it but honestly every time I remember she's 18 I'm shocked yeah I would agree with you that being in the spotlight especially after the year she's had like she's definitely an older 18 year old but you know what I was just thinking about recently I don't know why I was thinking about

this when you go to college yes a lot of freshmen I went to college I was 17 which is actually I just have a late birthday but it's still I was 17 when I went to college. And then there are seniors in college who are 22. Yeah. And like, they're all together. Fornicating. Yeah. And I was just like, wow, that's kind of crazy. You could be, I won't, I won't say 17 because most people aren't.

Most people are 18. But 18 and you like, if a freshman and a senior date, like nobody's like, this age difference is inappropriate. Yeah. And it's 18, 22, 23. And this kind of feels similar to that that's a good call like she's just a freshman in college and he's just a senior he's a super senior though yeah he like went to the navy and he had to delay a few years in the fifth year yeah

yeah or he couldn't get enough credits to graduate yeah for sure he can't let the dream die yeah so I don't know it wasn't my first thought I will say if that guy was dating a freshman I would think it was a little weird I actually would too I guess I mean when I mean, when I first saw it, I really didn't think much of it. And then people started talking about it. I'm like, yeah, I guess like six years is a lot for someone who's 18. It's not a lot when it's like, oh, I'm 26 and this person's 32. It just depends on like what stage of your life. Those are really formative years.

Yeah, but I also kind of like trust Olivia Rodrigo, if that makes sense. Like I trust that she's making the right decisions, you know? Yeah, and if they've been friends for a while that's always a good place to start and I just will say like compared to some of the other age differences that we've seen like on the on the on the scale of what's concerning like this isn't up there no like you know how at the beach they have different colored flags for like how crazy the ocean is yeah and I think like the lowest one is like yellow like this is a yellow flag there was maybe concern, but I wouldn't be too worried. I would say lowest is green.

Oh, I just made that up. I don't know the actual colors. I would imagine green is like so good. Oh, wait, like a stoplight. And then yellow and then orange and then red. Yeah, that's actually a really good call. But I agree. It's a yellow.

Yeah. And we need to be worried about the reds. Yeah, the Amelia's and the Scott's. Yeah. Agreed. Okay. So I'm happy for her that she's in a relationship. You had previously said that you

thought some of her music was just limiting in the sense that she didn't have so much to write about because it's true she's so young she's only had one relationship and it's like honestly at some point we are gonna get tired about hearing about the same relationship so I'm hoping this just breaks open a whole new catalog of music for her I totally agree new ideas new fights new arguments new romance new feelings yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I think, and she's definitely like a romantic, you know, so I'm happy to see her in a happy couple relationship. And speaking of happy couple news that we didn't report on,

and I want to talk about why we didn't, Tom Holland and Zendaya have confirmed themselves as a couple. They were spotted like making out in a car, and I think there's just been rumors about them forever. And I saw some people commenting and DMing me. I was car. And I think there's just been rumors about them forever. Okay. And I saw some people commenting and DMing me. I was like, I can't believe you didn't talk about Tom Holland. Because I guess like that picture of them kissing was like the confirmation the world

needed and so many people stan them. Okay. And let me say, I just, I actually have something embarrassing to admit. I don't really know who he is. Same. Okay. Like I am truly a pop culture connoisseur. Like there is not one celebrity like

you cannot quiz me on. And like dead ass like who the fuck is Tom Holland? He's Spider-Man. Yeah I just get him confused with like all the other superheroes and like Tom Hiddleston. There are so many Spider-Men. No but what's interesting about this couple is two things. One he is not Zac Efron and that means Zendaya and Zac Efron aren't together and that's really hard for us to digest and I think that's subconsciously why we didn't want to talk about it because we do ship 100%. And two, one notable thing about this relationship

is that she's like a foot taller than him and I just kind of love to see, you know, our girls Zendaya breaking the norms, you know? Yeah. Breaking with tradition. I agree. Love to see it. I'll have to study up on his work.

Yeah, I just know there are a lot of people who are obsessed Avengers Captain America like this is just not our genre I actually think if you've listened to the show long enough you know that like we are truly experts in all things pop culture with just a small like in our Venn diagram of things we know the one thing that gets left out is superhero movies like we can't tell Chris Evans from Chris Pine or Chris... Hemsworth Pratt? Whatever. We can't tell the Chris's apart. I've never seen

one of those movies. And I just honestly choose to be left out of that narrative. It's just not where I want to be. Yeah, no, it's a literal whole world that you can't just like

know a little bit. Pop into. Yeah, you can't know a little bit about. Like you either are all in or you're all out and unfortunately we don't have the time.

But I do think a lot of people's ships like were pulled into the harbor when this news broke. So I just wanted to congratulate those people, even though we are not one of them. We do support you and we love to see ships being built and prospering. A hundred percent. Are you ready for our next story? It's a little biz news from Kim Kardashian.

Oh, we have a... Yeah. Yeah. Kim Kardashian is shutting down KKW Beauty to launch, quote, a completely new brand. On Tuesday, she announced that she'll be shutting down KKW Beauty next month in order to relaunch the line under a completely new brand.

To our loyal customers, it all started with the contour kit and expanded to eyes, lips, body, and many incredible collections over the past four years. Can I just say, when she released this statement, it really made it seem like she was shutting down KKW Beauty permanently. I have so many thoughts and I think I actually have a little like information that might clear some stuff up. As do I. She said on August 1st at midnight, we'll be shutting down the kkwbeauty.com site so that we can come back to you under a completely new brand with new formulas

that are more modern, innovative, and packaged in an elevated and sustainable new look. I'm excited to continue to develop and expand my product range and for you to finally be able to experience it in the way that I have always envisioned in addition my team is hard at work to improve the customer shopping experiences we will be able to purchase my beauty and cosmetic offerings in all categories from one single website it's oh okay well it's important to note that Kylie Cosmetics just did something very similar a lot of people didn't even notice that like the Instagram got wiped a few months ago and they haven't been selling anything the website website has been down so we talked about it. I thought she was relaunching as like a Kylie beauty and it was going to have more categories. It's actually way more boring than that. It,

from what I heard, and I don't know if this is true, allegedly when they did their deals with Cody, they're all involved in a lawsuit. Kim is involved in a lawsuit with Cody and separately Kylie is involved in a lawsuit with Cody and separately Kylie is involved in a lawsuit with Cody from their previous manufacturer. Yes and in the deal that they did they gave away their formulas. Yes which belonged to Colourpop that initial manufacturer. Yes and so I don't know where they're at now with Cody but basically they couldn't be selling those formulas anymore so they reformulated everything in order to get away from the legal trouble. And they did kind of mask it as this rebrand. We're going to be more sustainable. Our packaging

is going to be different. We're going to have new logos. Kim wants everything. And all of that probably is happening. But the reason, the motivation behind both of their sites just randomly shutting down during the same time is because of this lawsuit. And it's very litigious and I don't really understand it, but they both kind of did the same thing in their deals with Cody was that they sold their formulas, but their formulas belonged to the initial factory that was helping them make it. I don't know the name. And that's illegal.

So they're both being sued by this old manufacturer, them and Cody, in two separate lawsuits. So they had to immediately stop using that formula to make money, which is why they reformulated everything, which takes a lot of time, which is why Kylie was out of commission for a few months, and July 15th,'s back yes also but what's interesting about the Kim piece is her saying that's going to be a completely new brand I'm sure she's taking the W out yes so that's the other thing now this will have like her KKW beauty

her fragrances like every because she had it should have always been that way she has a lot of categories so I'm sure it'll just be like Kim Kardashian beauty yeah because there shouldn't be different websites for the fragrances, for the makeup. It kind of makes no sense. And I also feel the same way about Kylie Skin and Kylie. Yeah, it should just be Kylie Beauty. Yeah. So we'll see July 15th if Kylie is going to bring everything into one place, as she should.

Yeah. But does that get fucked up with Kody? Does Kody own fragrance? And does Kody own Kylie Skin? No, because they bought KKW Beauty and they bought Kylie Cosmetics. So they have to be separate websites. Because they're two separate companies. Or they're breaking with Cody.

No, no, no, no. But they're in a lawsuit. How do you go back to work? How do you look someone in the eye? They're together. They're both being sued together. But they're like, they're both wrong. They committed the crime together from the other manufacturer.

So they're like, they committed the crime together from the other manufacturer so they're like they committed the crime together they're fully partners okay i think the cody deal is still it has to be it's already done okay okay but they need to still make money so they have to just come up with new random formulas hopefully they're better yeah i did have some problems with some of the kylie products so i'm ready i always like them at the time but i'm always down for you know new formulations reformulations i do think it'll be really interesting to see what happens with the name but it is like annoying a few times I needed some restock of some products and I couldn't go to Kylie it's been months it's crazy she's also now launching Kylie baby we know nothing about it other than the fact that she created the Instagram and it has 700,000 followers and it's never posted anything before she just

tagged like a picture of Stormi with it um don't know if that's going to be a Cody venture but looking forward to buying some things for Kayla always looking forward to whatever's next looking forward to hearing what kim calls her brand yeah kk beauty is not great but kim kardashian or like they used to have so many like makeup lines before like these two official big ones when they were in like sears and stuff they had kardashian beauty they had kk beauty olivia still has one of their hair brushes oh no i think that was like kardashian hair they just had like so many random lines they had pretty good shit yeah i used their hairspray forever yeah but that's like og like sears collection that was licensing deals that wasn't that wasn't their own brands so this is super interesting biz news for sure super interesting

business and i hope we've shed some light on that situation for you yeah because people were really shook and i guess if you don't know that piece of like formula news you're like oh cool she's rebranding but like who cares no that's really shocking to shut down your site right no because there's obviously something bigger going on you don't shut down your site for like a new logo yeah totally are you ready for our next story which which is some really sweet news? Yeah. Matt Mouser gives a tearful audition on America's Got Talent a year after his wife Christina's death in the helicopter crash with Kobe Bryant. Wait, what? So Matt Mouser is a man who auditioned for America's Got Talent this week.

His wife was on the helicopter with Kobe Bryant and she passed away. Oh my God. And he tried out for America's Got Talent because he's like really passionate about music. And he sang? And he sang. Oh my god that's so cute. And do you want to know what he sang?

Oh am I going to cry? You might. What? Against All Odds. Oh my god. By Phil Collins and Gavin DeGraw. I have. And Gavin DeGraw.

It's by Phil Collins. He did a cover of it. It was really good. First of all I absolutely love that song. it's really such an underrated song and we didn't talk about enough because phil collins's daughter ruined emily in paris but we should talk about it more because it's such a stunning song and honestly i don't think i can watch this audition like i will cry it's it's really emotional uh spoiler alert he got the buzzers. And he's going through. That is so cute.

Yeah, and he just talks about the year that he's had. He talked about it on stage? Yeah. That must be so hard. It must be, yeah, really hard. And just a really beautiful audition. So I think you should watch it. I will.

In your own time. In my own time. I'm just not in the headspace for that yet, but that's really sweet. I'm sure he was really good, too. Yeah, no, he was good. And he had said that like before the accident, he and his wife had quit their job so he could focus on his music. And then she got a job coaching basketball.

Oh, wow. So. Oh my, that's so sad. So sad. But just a really great story and audition. Yeah. America's Got Talent like really has got talent. For sure.

Even though like do people really get famous off of that show? I don't know anyone who's like I feel like sometimes but no I don't know. Yeah. I feel like the age

of people going on like talent shows and becoming famous is kind of over. Sometimes it still happens with The Voice but it's usually not the winner. But it's also not

because of The Voice. It's like It's because of Blake Shelton. like he made Morgan Wallen famous and he made like Raelynn famous did he make Morgan Wallen famous I don't know Morgan Wallen's just like fun fact about him he was on the voice yeah I'm not sure I don't think he like don't check me I don't think any I don't know if any of his success is from the voice no it's just like so weird like what has happened to literally every single person who's won the voice I don't know and like back in the day if you want American Idol, like that was it. Like Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson, even people who didn't win,

Catherine McPhee, Daughtry, Jennifer Hudson. Daughtry. They didn't even win and they became a star. And then there was X Factor, Fifth Harmony. And then all of that just kind of stopped. And like The Voice and America's Got Talent are good shows, but they don't really produce stars like they used to. And I think that's because the Simon Cowell effect.

Like, when you literally, like, run the music industry, you just, like, pluck Fifth Harmony from the show and put them... I also just think it's a little oversaturated. And, like, people have so many things that they could watch. Yeah. I just think it's... When there was one show and everybody was watching American Idol, but it's not like that anymore.

I do miss those days, like, when we all were a part of something. Yeah. And I feel like now it's so hard to become a part of something these days then that's why we really really miss the crisis at the Suez Canal we really do we're always thinking of you yeah always thinking of Suez are you ready for our next story is it the fifth and final or the fourth okay it's the fourth and it's some sad news what some sad pet news no Real Housewives of Potomac alum Monique Samuels mourns the death of her pet parrot T'Challa she says the pain is intense no that it was like really shocking and I just feel like Monique has had a really hard year with like you know being ambushed

by Andy at the reunion and none of the women having her back and then having to choose to leave the show because it was so toxic um and T'Challa was kind of like her saving grace I think and I was really really devastated when I heard this news just because I know how sad Monique must have been and she did say it was a freak accident and like which is yeah so sad and like the nosy ass bitch in me just like kind of wants to know what happened yeah well she said on July 1st around 5 p.m my entire world was rocked my T'Challa was killed in a freak accident she went on to write that, around 5 p.m., my entire world was rocked. My T'Challa was killed in a freak accident. She went on to write that she can barely utter his name without crying, adding that the pain of losing T'Challa is indescribable.

The pain is intense, and I'm just completely baffled, overwhelmed, and cannot stop the emotional rollercoaster I am on right now. My children keep breaking down, which makes the pain even worse. The kids, the campers. The campers. She went on to reference the incident where T'Challa flew away last August, but he came home on his own. She said, I had no idea God was preparing me

in that moment for the unbearable. Oh my God, I'm actually going to cry. Like losing a pet is literally the worst thing ever. And I just feel like we've all kind of been on this journey with T'Challa. Like we met him on the show and then like post-season, we were all really invested when he ran away. There was like Real Housewife support search groups like on the ground in Potomac looking for T'Challa

and he flew home and it was like such a win for us especially a win for Monique when I think she needed it the most um and I'm just devastated I really do feel like T'Challa is kind of symbolic of the journey Monique has been on on the show and that journey is coming to an end and like I don't know I'm just trying to like find some silver lining like make a nice speech but it's just terrible it's terrible thank you for your sweet words thank you and I'm really I actually am like sending a lot of love and condolences to T'Challa's family and to Samuelels me too it's really sad now are you ready for our fifth and final story is it colin josephs carl johansson having a baby because you didn't talk about that and i

feel like no i didn't see it anywhere what it's like the biggest news i didn't see it well let's talk about it she's pregnant i think she's like literally about to give birth like they're not fucking around where who's announcing. Page six got the exclusive. I'm on page six every day. And there's been many a whisper on you know blogs and Reddit and stuff. I heard the whispers. But to me. That's not like. I wouldn't report a whisper.

No. It's like. It's true. Yeah. Okay. I see it on page six. And she's like seven months pregnant. I guess they hit it.

Yeah. She's actually due soon. Yeah. So let's talk about Colin Jost as a father. Okay. Specifically my father. Okay. Specifically, my father. I am happy for him, obviously. But it's just a rough week for you.

Yeah, like this is again just like another story kind of with this narrative that is attacking me and my happiness and my inner peace and my joy. Because while it's wonderful a baby's coming into the world and that baby's gonna have Colin Jost as a daddy it's hard just knowing like I'm not gonna be a part of it yeah I think a lot of people feel that way you're not gonna be a part of it in any way shape or form no like not at all not at all and I guess that's hard for you to grapple with yeah and like just like watching Colin Jost like become a father like I just feel like that would be really cool to watch.

And I do wish I was a part of it. Like even like can I be I'll become a doula like you know. Like I just You would be the absolute

worst doula. I'd be like ew. Pain. Yeah. Oh my god no. Yeah. Well I'm sorry for you. I'm happy for them

but I am sorry for you once again. No and I think that there's definitely a lot of us like a support group of people who are feeling like really happy because like this has been a really beautiful journey to watch them on like 100% I really stand them so hard as a couple like I've such an enormous yacht for them um but as I do with like a lot of couples

that I ship like I would say 80 20 you know super happy for them. 20%. That should be me. Holding his hand. That should be me. Making you laugh. That should be me. So, happy for you guys. What do you think the baby's going to be called? Claudia? I don't know.

Claudia is a really pretty name. Yeah. But honestly, I don't want it to become too oversaturated. And then I'm just like one of a million Claudias. So, please don't use that name. I'm going to stop suggesting it to people. Like, that's always my joke. People tell me they're pregnant. I'm like you gonna name your baby Claudia that's a really

good joke you know it's like so stupid and no don't fucking name your baby Claudia like we are one of a kind yeah I agree I was at a bachelorette party a few weeks ago with another girl named Claudia and I've never felt more invisible in my life like it was actually painful you know me I'm like so annoying need to be the center of attention and like the other girl Claudia was like more well known amongst the group of friends than me you were the lesser Claudia oh every time someone said Claudia I would turn around like it was not for me and it was so crazy I was on a bachelorette it was humbling I was on a bachelorette party two weeks ago with another Jackie you were yes and what's so crazy is so like throughout the weekend I heard people saying Jackie they weren't talking to me and then we were sitting around truckers for Jackie are here thanks guys

love you uh we were sitting we were having lunch and everyone was talking about how there's so many people at the table with the same names there was like two Samantha's two Jackie's two Casey's and I was just like oh my god I literally didn't even realize that someone else on the trip had the same name as me isn't that because you're so confident like in your name like even when I heard Jackie and it wasn't for me like it didn't register that like there's another Jackie. Yeah I feel like some people it happens to all the time like Ben Soffer like. Oh my god.

It's not even a thing like everyone has the name Ben like if you're living in New York and you're Jewish like it's just but for me like if you don't get it a lot it's very disarming to be in the presence of someone with the same name as you like it's actually straight up disrespectful like you need to leave. Yeah but of someone with the same name as you. Like it's actually straight up disrespectful. Like you need to leave. Yeah. But in that situation, like you needed to leave.

A hundred percent. I was like the lesser of two Claudias and it was devastating. Yeah. That can be, that can be hard. Yeah. But I'm sure it made you stronger. Um,

I don't know about that. Honestly, I kind of just like was like a self-hating Claudia the whole week, the whole weekend. Oh, we hate to see it, but we still have a fifth and final story that we didn't get to okay is that okay with you it is I mean you you do kind of smell so I think we should fix that before I think you need a different segue

into whatever you're going to say next okay I think I kind of smell good and I think before we dive into the fifth and final story I need to to ask myself and some scent bird. I agree. Have you ever had someone come up to you and say, you smell amazing. What perfume are you wearing? Well, whatever scent you may be wearing, you have good taste and you know what you like. But your great taste is also expensive and you end up with a shelf full of half-used bottles. With scent bird, we have found a way to have a great taste and mix up our fragrance routines without breaking the bank. Whether it's from Tom Ford, Gucci, or Versace, Scentbird.com keeps us smelling good month after month

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you can get 30% off your first month. That's only $11 for your first fragrance. Go to scentbird.com. Use our code TOAST for 30% off your first month. That's S-C-E-N-T, bird.com. $11 for your first perfume or cologne. Code TOAST. Scentbird. Smell amazing. Thank you for that, Claudia. You're welcome. Now I feel ready to go into our fifth and final story because you're gonna need sempered if you walk into this place no you'll know exactly what i have to say it's about subway oh subway is grasping for a lifeline as americans shun the aging brand so subway is going for a rebrand they i feel like we just reported on this like three years ago. Yeah, but no, I think it's gotten worse since three years ago,

especially because of COVID. So I'm reading this article. It's actually really interesting. You know there are more Subway locations than there are McDonald's? I could see that. But fewer than one in ten Subway stores has drive-thru. Even though fast food took off in the pandemic, Sub didn't oh that's majorly stupid yeah so they are doing a whole you know revamp oh my god I guess I never thought about that you're right like I actually have

not never but most of the time if I pass a subway like not in the city it's always in the middle of a shopping mall like yeah or like a what are those things called where like all the stores are a shopping center shopping center yeah it's always just like a storefront it's not its own freestanding store and that's why they don't have drive-thrus but i guess i never thought about it until this moment like subways don't have drive-thrus and that's the dumbest fucking thing they need drive-thrus because if they had drive-thrus if you had a drive-thru you would know what it's like to not walk into a subway and smell like subway yeah and that's the other thing. That's

the worst part about subways. You can't shake that subway smell, but a drive-thru would solve that. No, a hundred percent. And two, like maybe they could just solve the smell problem. Like, where's it coming from? Let's eliminate the threat. Like, like we don't, why do we have to build a whole structure? They should get drive-thrus, but why do they have to build a whole structure just to get rid of the smell? how about just you know like clean your toilets or whatever the fuck that smell is yeah no it's like this smell of like deli meats and sandwiches and it's just so atrocious well that's the other thing i just want to let you know like the revamp it's not even about getting drive-thrus that's just like that's just a reason why they're

suffering they didn't pop off this year like so many other fast food chains they are going with a new biggest change called the eat fresh refresh they're rolling out two new bread recipes several on-trend premium ingredients and a handful of new sandwiches plus nationwide delivery service it is hoping these changes will lure diners back to its stores after five straight years of declines skeptics of the brand say it won't be so simple yeah they do need like gluten-free bread for those freaks sorry not freaks i know you have celiacs that was a joke like please celiacs do not come for me it was a joke they need vegans vegan options for those freaks sorry vegans are freaks um and like they people's diets are

shifting and we're like living in such you know specific times where everyone has it and like a lot of people aren't eating like sweaty cold turkey and that's just kind of the same shit they've been offering since we were kids and it's really not cutting it anymore and it's gross so they just kind of need a whole recipe revamp and i think that's what they're going to try to do but i don't know it might be too late i feel like that association with subway is just already so damaged and also the word subway and fresh are just so incongruous. One, because like Subway, the story is like so gross. But also like the Subway. No, nobody wants to be thinking about the train when they're eating a sandwich.

I completely agree. The association is awful. Yeah. And I get that it's meant to be like sub sandwiches. And it's like this way to the subs. Like I get it. It's not about the train. But I don't think of it as a sandwich when I hear Subway.

I think of literally the train. No, and I'm sure when they came up with the name Subway, they were like, oh, and it's like the Subway, LOL. But then the Subway like just took such a downward turn. Yeah. That now it's hurting the brand association. But I do want to say, it's not all bad. Like there are very redeeming qualities about Subway.

Like the soda machines are excellent and they do have free refills. Like let's kind of lean into that from a marketing space. They have top-notch chocolate chip cookies. Like let's lean into that. Let's do like a three for one cookie special. I don't know, like I don't work in marketing, but I just feel like they really can be playing up their strengths while they work on their weaknesses,

aka pretty much everything behind that plastic screen. Right, and like people love sandwiches. I feel like there's- Such a huge sandwich market. Right, and I think even like Mike's Jersey Subs. Does amazing. Does amazing. No, I think those are two different franchises.

Jersey Mike's. Jersey Mike's. Jersey Mike's and then Jimmy John's? Yeah, Jimmy John's is another one. And they do well, but they're regional. Subway is national. And I feel like they put some love into their products. No, it's like.

And they care about the smell of their stores. Like you can't even get in the door at subway for me. No. And it's like, you have to literally wear a hazmat suit because your clothes will smell like subway for the end of time. So either get a drive through so we don't have to walk in or get an exterminator.

No. And the thing is like a lot of successful, a lot of successful fast food brands, like the shit you're eating, like I know when I'm eating a McNugget, like that this chicken fell off the back of a truck. Like I know that it's gross, but it tastes so good.

And like, I'm so pleased with the experience that I really don't care. But when you're eating a Subway sandwich, like because it's such a lackluster, disgusting experience, like you can't help but focus on like, where did this turkey come from? You know, he literally was abandoned by its parents thrown off a truck hit by a bus 20 years

ago 20 years ago had sat in this freezer in this random subway in Minnesota for six months until it was thrown out but then some other subway franchise picked it up like it's just so glaringly obvious that you're eating trash where it's like we all know we're eating trash at McDonald's but it's such a fabulous experience like we couldn't care less and like it tastes good so like at the end of the day that's literally all that matters yeah and Subway does not taste good and I think we need to talk about it I think I also just I also just want to like really recap this segment with an apology to the vegan and the gluten-free community like those were jokes like 100% and I'm just really not in the mood for like a pitbull kind of situation so um I really apologize they were jokes and I think%. And I'm just really not in the mood for like a pit bull kind of situation. So I really apologize.

They were jokes. And I think you're all lovely, beautiful, stunning, and smart people. And to each their own. 100%. I'm not yucking other people's yums. I'm just like a funny person. And I, you know, I put others down to be funny. And that's something I'm working on.

Thank you, Claudia. I think that's really mature. Yeah. I'm actually not working on it because it's really funny. But I'm sorry. I really am. Okay. Thank you so much.

So that's your Subway recap. Good luck to you guys. I mean, maybe if you fix the taste, that'll fix the smell. But it should be top priority for you. I don't have a lot of hope. I'm not going to lie for this rebrand. Because they just... I remember we reported.

They used to be Subway sandwiches, right? And then they just became Subway. Like, they've rebranded. They got rid of Jared. Yeah, but they rebranded in like a branding sort of way. Just like they've rebranded they got rid of Jared. They rebranded in like a branding sort of way just to make it more modern they got rid of Jared as they should yeah and let's not talk about Jared and what he did to the brand. Right so I do feel like even though they they did the right thing of course separating themselves from Jared that was kind of irreparable damage yeah it was like a big shit stain on the underwear of subway because you

can't think of like when you go down like the subway rabbit hole like subway jared from subway jared from subway yeah jared from subway no no no no so they have a lot of work cut out for them and i'm so glad i don't work for subway because i don't really like to work hard yeah but i think you know if they can do this they can definitely win some some ad age awards or something yes yes yes it's a big opportunity for for a rebranding agency to win an award yeah and I guess they really never put together that subway is one of if not the biggest franchises in the country because there are more of them than McDonald's crazy I would have assumed McDonald's was the biggest franchise me too just in terms of location revenue I'm sure McDonald's makes more money than subway yeah McDonald's is actually. I would have assumed McDonald's was the biggest franchise. Me too. Just in terms of location revenue. I'm sure McDonald's makes more money than Subway. Yeah. Because McDonald's

is actually delicious Michelin star food. Yeah because it's not going down down down. Oh I was thinking we're going down down. Any of the songs apply to Subway. Yeah. Any and all. Okay those are the past five stories. I feel as though you needed to know them and why don't you pick up a Subway sandwich while you're at it yeah no and um and don't come near me now let's dive into the tv recap segment real housewives of new york but also i just want to say like you know there are people out there your husband included who loves like the smell of subway loves loves loves like he thinks it's a special part of the experience of going to subway and so now i feel like it might be like a cilantro sort of thing where you either love it or hate it it's

just like in your dna i just think like it's better like a cilantro sort of thing where you either love it or hate it. It's just like in your DNA. I just think like it's better to go with the safe option if I work at Subway just to get rid of it completely. To get rid of the smell. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's like the smell of gasoline. What do you think about it? Because I think it's delicious.

It doesn't bother me. But you don't like crave it. No, I wouldn't say that I crave it. No, but I don't mind it. Like it's like, ooh, gasoline. Yeah. What about the smell of a Sharpie? No, but I don't mind it.

Like, it's like, ooh, gasoline. Yeah, what about the smell of a Sharpie? I try not to sniff markers, but if it wafts in my direction, I don't mind it. Okay. Let's dive into TV recap. The Real Housewives of New York headed to Salem, which, like, honestly, and I know this is going to offend a lot of people, so, again, really apologize, but this is just my opinion on my podcast um I just like hate like spooky like ghosts like people who are like obsessed with spirits and like

cemeteries don't get me wrong I participate in a good seance every now and then I literally did a Ouija board a couple weeks ago I like I get the fun of it but people whose like personalities it is to like be obsessed with spooky ghosts and like saging their room like I just find that like a really annoying personality trait and I was just getting a lot of that energy on the episode last night okay I I agree with you generally speaking I do think that Salem is so rich in history that I can I can give a pass like I can give a pass and like it's all part of the story and that's what you get when you go to Salem and if you watch that movie with Adam Sandler his um Halloween movie what was it called like Dewey something the Netflix one yeah I didn't see it it's there they live in Salem yeah Halloween's

like a really big deal um then you might have more of an appreciation for Salem that's possible I just wanted to put it out there like one of my biggest pet peeves is like people who are obsessed with like spirits. And there was just like, I was getting a lot of that energy. You know, we get that like once a season on every house. And it's really annoying. I totally agree. Stassi used to do it all the time on Vanderpump Rules. And I like liked Stassi, but that whole like, I want to get married in a cemetery. Like I just didn't relate to it. Yeah. Um, and so I was just getting a lot of that energy on Real Housewives of New York last night and it was, it was frustrating. Yeah. I, I agree just getting a lot of that energy on Real Housewives of New York last night and it was it was frustrating. Yeah I agree with you like spooky but also I think they're and it's almost like Halloween. It's okay. It's fine by me. I really liked the part of the

show where Ebony and Sonia went to Philadelphia in that literally luxury ass Sprinter van like that's all I could think about was how fabulous that was. It reminded me of Scott Disick's mobile office. Yeah, me too. I was just like, I didn't know where they were going yet. I thought maybe they were on their way to Salem. They were going to pick everyone up in the sprinter. And I was like, wow, this is so amazing. And the windows were so tinted.

I was like, is it night? Are they in the tunnel? Like where it was just like so fabulous and fascinating. I completely agree. And I agree. It was a highlight of the episode for me. Yeah, like I felt like it was like a safe space for Sonia to talk about her ex-husband which like even though she talks about her old life all the time I actually don't know that much about her old marriage. Yeah and she always gets

cut off. Yes. So it's like if you just let her like finish what she wants to say and also you are going to meet a matchmaker like your past is important pertinent to the situation um I agree like when she's just talking about it not like um bragging the Morgan ladder right she's not like off the rails about it it's interesting yeah because like I think a lot of people forget and it's true like Sonya Morgan is like Grey Gardens like yeah we get it but like she lived a life for a while that was the top one percent of the one percent it is a life nobody gets to experience it is the ultimate wealth I can't even explain it and like it's a joke now but I actually would love when she's like sober and serious to hear more about that and I never thought I would say that because it's like this

running joke but it actually is really, really interesting. Like, she was basically like a royal of America, Morgan Rockefeller. Like, it's like a Vanderbilt. Like, it's unbelievable. Yeah. So I actually did enjoy hearing her speak kind of coherently about that, like what they used to do together. And I just thought it was really interesting.

And I thought, like, I really feel like I like Ebony a lot and part of where I've really learned to like her so much is how she is so kind to Sonia and like sees her being like trampled on by the other women and like we see that too but it never like like stuck with me the way it has this season because Ebony pointed it out. Yeah sometimes you have to see it through someone else's eyes in order to realize what's happening. Yeah, so I thought it was a really sweet scene, and I hope that it works. I hope that she gets set up with someone so fabulous.

It was really cute. I agree. And so then the women arrived in Salem in an RV that honestly was really funny, and it reminded me of the Beerman's RV trip this summer. It reminded me of Real Housewives of Dallas when they took the yes RV to Oklahoma yeah it was a cute little addition like they're all obviously having to get creative with COVID yes um and then the episode ended where they were having drinks

and fighting about politics in Salem and honestly like everyone was just like talking over each other. And I just sometimes want to like strangle Ramona. Like just sit, like she makes situations worse for herself. Like just sit and like converse. And like you just being so obviously trying to change the subject is going to bother Ebony. So just let her finish. But then also I feel like Leah's like a little condescending. Like I was just, everyone was bothering me for different reasons agreed um and I couldn't follow even the

conversation and like Ramona gets up and it's like Ramona just like okay I get that you don't want to talk about politics but like every time you make it a big deal like you make the conversation worse and like bigger and you make yourself look so bad like just sit down and nod your head like have some respect someone's trying to speak to you about their experience. Like just have some respect. Yeah. So it was just frustrating. It was frustrating on all counts because I agree Ramona makes things worse for herself

and you're just like, it's ridiculous. But then on the other hand, not everybody needs to talk about politics. So she can sit there and nod her head, but the other women are sort of goading her into talking about politics. But a lot of people that's private for them. And it's clear like that Ramona stands on a certain side politically and she doesn't want to talk about it but those are her opinions and they're just trying to kind of

like expose that in Ramona um and she's just like not giving it to them like at all and I do think like if she really does want to avoid the subject she's not handling it great I agree I think it's her right to avoid the subject but she should fine sure she can go about it better she should go about it better yeah but all in all like the season is just like really dragging on um and it's kind of annoying I do love Bershon like her whole story about getting cancer is so crazy oh my god when she was like saying how you know on the bus well I think she was saying it in her confessional, like that she, or maybe to the women, she was like, I had to find out I was dying in order to wake up. And she was like, and now that I'm awake, like nothing and nobody scares me. I'm not going to be held back by anything.

And I was just like. Inspired. Inspired and moved by that. I agree. I love her. I actually think she has a lot of potential. I'm interested why they, because she does have such a big personality personality why they cast her as a friend of I don't know when I actually think she has more than enough of like a dynamic to like she is friends with Ramona yeah why she

shouldn't just be a full-time cast member because I actually think I don't know what her personal life is like but she said she was married to a British banker like she sounds like she has stories to tell right I hope that you know this is just a trial and that we will see more of her yeah because she is definitely adding to the dynamic because it is so boring and honestly like it's a watchable like I literally am on my phone for 95% of the episode it's so it's so bad like I'm just letting you know if it continues down this way I'm not going to be prioritizing watching it and yes I do know that a watchable is not a word I just wanted to put that out there when it comes to real houses in New York it doesn't matter watchable it's it honestly is so unwatchable they needed a new word um we're so done we need a new

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i really don't want to make i really don't want to i'm sorry some days i feel like i can't read i really don't want to but would kick myself in the ass if i stay and things are shitty we've been working to make things better but now he wants me to take a polygraph test to prove my innocence i'm not worried that i'll fail but it just sounds like too much if you have such little faith in me then why are we together am i being crazy for setting this boundary for myself would you take the test love a remiss devastated and heartbroken toaster bye there's the door i will come over you i will come over and pack your bags for you you are literally dating the most paranoid crazy crazy motherfucker a polygraph test like that's nuts he does not trust you does

not does not trust you and things would only get worse in this regard you've got to go like even before you said polygraph I was just like if he's convincing himself of something like what else is he gonna he's afraid himself of but a polygraph test that's when you know your relationship and he's only your boyfriend like goodbye good day sir is your boyfriend lisa vanderpump i'm just curious because only dramatic reality stars in youtube is to take polygraph tests because they also don't even work no oh right that um so pack your bags buy a his ass. Yeah. Like he's so crazy. Like he's like, this is just like a red flag. It might not seem like the biggest deal, even though it kind of is a big deal, but it's

such a red flag. This leads to such weird toxic patterns and behaviors. The first half was a red flag. Yeah. The polygraph. No, I'm sorry. The first half was an orange flag. The polygraph is a red flag.

No, we- Stay out of these waters. Stay out of these waters. They are choppy and turnt. Do not swim in the sea. I was just going to say that gonna say not take risks on treacherous roads move in with your friends move in with your friends and you're gonna have like such a fun hot girl summer with your friends like living in a new apartment like get the fuck out this guy sounds so crazy i just hope we're making ourselves clear like we're not like yeah because i feel like we actually when we do

relationship questions we don't always jump to break up because i think there are a lot of things two people can work through via good communication a lot of nuance in one issue yes so I and two sides to every story so I really don't like to push the red button like breakup but this is a red button we need a red button for dear toasters for when there is no choice but to leave yeah all right next up Jackie and Claudia my parents got divorced when I was young me and my sister Daisy were seven and four respectively my mom got remarried to my stepdad who has kids with similar ages my sister and I grew up having somewhat of a long-distance relationship with our stepfamilies since they lived across the country but every year we would get together and bond slash stay in touch since we've all grown up we

continue to stay connected even though we all live in different places for example us siblings go on ski trips or weekend trips here and there that sounds so nice like that blended movie yeah here's where the dilemma comes in and my sister daisy got engaged recently yesterday i received a package in the mail i opened it and i saw a card on top of of goodies titled bridesmaid i was like okay okay i guess this is just a generic card i go on to read her card and come to learn that she is not choosing me for maid of honor because of quote the strain it would put on our extended family I called her excitedly to accept the position didn't mention the maid of honor thing at all and then hung up and proceeded to bawl my eyes out eyes out is it wrong to feel like she should have picked someone is she really

going to choose the possibility of confrontation with our stepsister slash step family over having a maid of honor in my biased opinion why would picking your sister as a maid of honor cause conflict within the step family my question to you is do I say anything or do I just let it be? Sincerely, a confused toaster. See, this is tough because when it comes to people's weddings, like I very much say like it's not about you, like just be a good friend and like be quiet. But like I do really, I'm curious like why this girl, Daisy, would think it would be offensive to her stepsister if she chose her I don't know what

the right word is like full sister blood sister as her maid of honor like yeah I don't know I get that's it's a little bit of a stretch I'm sure she has her reasons I just I wouldn't put this much stock in like this maid of honor thing if she had a friend as a maid of honor and she didn't choose her sister I think you could you should could be upset but like she's not having a maid of honor it's such nonsense some of this stuff job you know like it's just like a figurehead position I just I hate to see you get so upset over something that really like she's her sister I'm assuming you guys have a great relationship and like nothing no dumb shit like this should should mean more than your actual relationship but it makes me sad that you're sad about it I just like I guess it's also

her day like it's really not about you so like and it's not like she chose someone over you she just like foregoed having a maid of honor maybe because we didn't have maid of honors I just don't see the but I guess because I like I just don't care about them because I like I have three sisters so I that was just never a thing so I think that people put too much stock stock and emphasis on maid of honor and these sort of titles and positions but you're heard about it so I don't think you should make it a big deal because I don't think it is a big deal me neither you know I hope you I hope you can come to terms with it because that's really sad yeah I think it is a big deal me neither you know I hope you I hope you can come to terms with it because that's really sad yeah I think this is something you need to work out within yourself yeah like and not bring it up even though like you probably are entitled to feel that you went the way you

want to feel but some battles are just not worth taking on agree I would argue most battles are not agreed battles are exhausting and then you get anxiety like just don't all right third and final hello queens and dr theo I've been toasting for just over two years and I finally need some words And then you get anxiety. Like, just don't. All right, third and final. Hello, Queens and Dr. Theo. I've been toasting for just over two years, and I finally need some words of wisdom. Sorry that it's so long. It's not long. My boyfriend and I got together just before quarantine, so we didn't spend a ton of time with our friends in the start, but our state was not as strict as most.

Since the middle of last summer, we've spent a lot of time with his group of friends, whom I've really grown to love, but there's always an ex of my boyfriendfriends either brought up or or brought around at first I tried to be cool I know everyone has a past but literally every time we're all together one of his friends brings up and makes jokes about people he used to date or they actually invite these girls to the bigger events we have like birthdays baby stuff and most recently the 4th of July like the 4th of July like the 4th of July now I know everyone has a history but at this point it's getting old, and they never truly make an effort to be kind to me, with me being the newest one to this old group of friends.

They'll literally say to him and not me, and, wait, sorry, they'll literally say hi to him and not me, and essentially pretend I don't exist. I told my boyfriend that at least a heads up would be nice, that these other women will be there, and he agrees, but it's not like his friends really give him a heads up either. As a result, I really don't want to be a part of their summer, but I don't want to keep my man from his friends either. How do I go about getting some respect from these women or how do I not care so much about them being around? Sincerely, a fed up

toaster. I just want to say one thing. I hear you say that you hang out with his group of friends and you've grown to love them. I just want to know what's to love about this group. They sound really fucking mean and like so immature. Like, like remember when Shep brought that girl, Austin had a threesome with to that party in Southern Charm like that has given me that kind of energy and that was so mean when Shep did it so I don't know why you've grown to love these group of men who literally have no respect for you or your relationship and I would be really annoyed too and I wouldn't go around saying that I love his group of friends because you shouldn't no you shouldn't this would bother me you have every right to be upset and I mean it seems like

these people are really immature yeah like two-year-olds like grow up you and your boyfriend I'm mature and like just in a different place in your life and I think you need to like make small changes to remove yourself from these situations like find alternative plans like tell like and make it clear to your boyfriend like we could hang out with your friends more if they didn't suck like why don't you work on your friends not sucking and then we can hang out like I think you need to put your foot down because this is so disrespectful and at a certain point it reflects poorly on your boyfriend yeah like the company he keeps with dogs you get fleas yeah lie with the dogs yeah but they're hanging

yeah well the thing is is also I think this is something that happens a lot like when your group of friends have been friends like since middle school you have have this like really stupid, immature kind of vibe. And like, even though you grow up, that silliness never goes away. And sometimes I feel like when I hang out with people I've known forever, like I act silly, but it's fun because like I don't hang out with them all the time.

And when your go-to group of friends is people you've known since middle school, you just kind of like revert back. Act like middle schoolers. Yeah, you revert back to that level of maturity and it's actually really unhealthy. Like for real. So I think this is something a lot of people probably deal with when hanging out with people

that they've known forever. And if that's your go-to group of friends, it can be really toxic. So I think you need to definitely remove yourself from this group of friends. Find people in your town who are like grown up and elevated. Maybe other people who are in relationships so they can like relate to the type of problems you're having. And it's really hard to make new friends as a grown ass woman. So I would, you know, join like a toaster group in your area. Like there are so really hard to make new friends as a grown-ass woman so I would you know

join like a toaster group in your area like there are so many ways to meet new people yeah there are so this is definitely like by material yeah and I would just say like if you're ever forced to be around them again like some like they're just like being animals and immature just like be a big bad bitch. Totally. Fight fire with fire. Fight fire with fire. Like towards the men. If these girls are acting disrespectfully, it's like exes.

Or if these girls, or you could, sometimes you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. If these girls are sent there to like fuck with you, become their best friend. Neutralize the threat. But see, but first decipher like like, how are they acting? Are they trying to come onto your man or they just happen to be there? I think, like, they just got invited to a party by their friends from high school. Like, of course they're going to come. And the boys are doing it with malicious intent.

But it's really not the girls' fault. Right, so maybe you neutralize the threat. And you all become best friends and the boys look like dumb asses that they are. No, but then it's like she's letting them win. Like, I think you should be a big, I like your first advice. Like, be a big bad bitch to the boys. Like, no, but then they won't want to, like, have you around. Good.

You don't want to be around. Yeah, no. I just think you need to remove yourself from the situation. And I think you need to start inviting their exes around. And then also invite their moms, too. So they can see how they behave. Jackie, I love that idea. Sometimes the best way to get to someone is to tell their mom what they're doing.

Because people who have good relationships and, like, respect their moms, like, don't want to get in trouble from their parents. And, like, some moms can be scary. So, like, I think that tattling to their moms is the best idea you've ever had. Yeah. That's a good go-to. Sometimes I think about, like, literally calling people's parents. Like, it's such a thrill. Do you?

Or, like, when someone's, like, being a troll on the internet. Yes. literally calling people's parents. Like it's such a thrill. Do you, or like when someone's like being a troll on the internet, like I just want to find their parents and like send them what they're saying and be like, are you aware your child is behaving in this manner? No, and I just think it's something they should know. Yeah. Love that idea. I think we should tell their parents as well. Yeah.

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