The Toast - S4 Ep12: Podcasts Without Borders with Kameron Westcott: Wednesday, January 20th, 2021

Episode Date: January 20, 2021

The Bachelorette's Clare Crawley and Dale Moss Break Up (E! News) Pregnant Lauren Burnham and Arie Luyendyk Jr. Reveal Twins' Sexes (US Weekly) Josh Duhamel may replace Armie Hammer in 'Shotgun Wedding' with J. Lo (NY Post) Kim Kardashian, Kanye West marriage issues will be featured on 'KUWTK' (Page Six) Morgan Wallen's 'Dangerous: The Double Album' Debuts at No. 1 on Billboard 200, Breaks Country Streaming Record (Billboard) Real Housewives of Dallas Recap Dear Toasters Advice Segment The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning Millennials! Welcome back to the morning toast. It is Inauguration Day here in America but more importantly it is Hump Day! And Thea was here to you know celebrate alongside me and to let us you know get out our hump day frustrations on him by humping him. I know it's such it's so it's always nice when it's hump day obviously. Of course. But the fact that it's a short week just continues to pay off and surprise and delight. And it's just so fabulous. I hope everyone is enjoying their short week. Yeah, no, I definitely am.

Even though, like, not to be annoying, but it could be shorter. It could be a little shorter. Just a little. Let's trim off that Friday. Two, three days. Like, it could definitely be shorter. Let's trim off the Friday. It is a Wednesday, though, and the news is just cycling about just cycling about lots of bachelor we have a lot to talk about today we have

dear toasters we have cameron west scott interview at the end of the episode which is just iconic beautiful stunning and smart she's a queen which will also be recapping real housewives of dallas before that um so just like stay tuned for an adventure stay tuned for an adventure also today's a big day for me because i'm getting my hair cut today you are yeah what are you doing I'm just doing like cut off all the split ends like in dead ends people like comment on my Instagram telling me like my ends look split like it's so fucking rude that's so hurtful it's so hurtful but they're not wrong but also it's a testament to the type of camera you're using because it's obviously so high quality how are people seeing your split ends on Instagram 100% so I'm getting like a trim of all the dead ends.

And then I'm also going to do a lot of layers. But you know, the decision hasn't been made yet. Like convince me otherwise. Convince me to do an Ana de Armas haircut. No, I will. I mean, I love you. I would never do that. Do you want a petition for any sort of haircut for me?

You know, I was a really, really big champion and lobbyist of your Bob. And I wanted you to bring it back for so many years but I think I've actually sat on it long enough and I'm glad you didn't do it because I don't think it's the right cut for you right now I think you're you're not there yet yeah no I'm not there yet I will go back to the Bob life but I would love something drastic like a shoulder me too like a curtain bang I don't know that's just not my vibe whatsoever it looks good on Margo well let's snitch have her moment yeah but I I don't I don't hate the idea of doing something major I know so I'm I really am just gonna like sit back I'm gonna

give a an idea of what I'm looking for but also say do what you think is best yeah no you know like I want to walk out with something that I didn't expect which is never what you want for my haircut but just goes to show how bored we all are. Yeah. But like, I have a lot of post-traumatic stress disorder from haircuts of, you know, of lives past. And I now always go into a haircut with like very specific instructions. I don't want to leave here crying and I don't want to lie and say I like it when I actually go home and cry. But me too. But just like, I want to look at something different in the mirror every day. Like that's how much I'm just craving a change. You know, your hair is really long. You're getting to like the mole woman phase. Yeah.

And that's when it's time. So I'm really excited because I don't even like really style it for the show anymore. I just like put it behind my ears or put it in a bun. So I'm excited to have like an actual haircut and not just hair. No, that's crazy. Yeah. So that's really exciting. And other than that, I went to the dentist yesterday. All good. All good which was really surprising because I was having some pain but. Oh and then we recorded a fabulous Patreon episode that you could check out at patreon.com slash morning toast. A little Q&A. New year, new questions, new us. Yes very good stuff. People are asking some good questions. Oh my legs are sore. I'm like I've been finding new ways to sit on this couch that like make my boots look cool. You know what? Our boots looked so cool yesterday, both of us. So I am recreating my position from

yesterday and it's really not comfortable. Yeah, but you know, beauty is pain. I know, but just like being this beautiful all the time, it's a lot of work. And it's a lot of pain. And being not only this beautiful, but also a published author in T-minus six days, Girl with No Job, The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst Monster, now available for pre-order at anywhere they sell books, e-books, audiobooks, and hardcover books. I read a little excerpt on the toast yesterday. Did you get any feedback? Was like Maverick coming out of the woodwork being like, Claudia, I loved you back.

A bunch of people like who I know personally who listen to the toast, they're like, who's Maverick? I changed a lot of people's name in the book just because like I did not want those phone calls like or text messages coming in from people. And also it's like still like your first love like you don't want it's personal. No and it's and I've actually spoken about him like many times on the toast and if you wanted to you could literally find out his name. But I also really like that like on the first page on like where it has like the copyright information it also says some names and identifying details have been changed to protect the privacy of individuals. Like what did I write a thriller? Yes. It's thrilling. Yes. Claudia and Maverick,

the love story. Um, so like I would be open to reading another excerpt if you were open to it. Oh, sure. I need time to drink my coffee. Now that this is my first coffee of the day here, I actually don't like have enough coffee before the show starts. So yes, I'll choose a page 31. Any reason? Oh, and I opened to page 32. That's a good sign. That is a good sign. I don't know what the sign is, but this is chapter one, you know, all about our childhood. Oh, this is good. Okay. So obviously as a child, I was like very, you know, loud, loved to sing. Nuts.

Nuts would be the word. So you would think my love of performing and captivating audiences would be persuasive, but I made the decision early on not to get into musical theater during high school. Even though I knew I could sing better than half those snot-nosed kids, I didn't want to be associated with the stigma of being a drama kid, which is ironic because if you think about it, that's exactly who I was, a dramatic kid. But I'd seen Mean Girls one too many times and thought that I couldn't be popular while also following my passion for singing. As I'd learned from the fictional halls of Constant Billiard School for Girls and North Shore High,

you couldn't be a drama geek and a popular kid. It was an antiquated view of high school, but it was what I genuinely believed. I cared more about being well-liked than anything else. At one point, I did join choir for half a second, but I dropped out immediately because it was so lame. Plus, I really struggled to be a part of an ensemble choir. I was a soloist through and through.

So when I didn't get the first solo, I bailed. Thank you. Claudia, that's beautiful. Thank you so much. Available at girlthrownajob.com. But also, what you just said really goes to further the point that we were making last week. About High School Musical? High School Musical, the musical, the series.

And how those walls are really being broken down. And you would have really benefited from that as a child. A hundred percent. And I never, like like when people always ask me like did you do musical theater and like were you like one of those kids and like I'm so one of those kids but I never did it because there was like such like stereotypes around like being a part of certain extracurricular activities which is so lame and that's why when I came to that conclusion in the book and then I watched high school musical the musical the series I'm like oh my these kids are so lucky like to go to a high school where like you could just be anything you want like that's iconic and and and to have like media

like popular shows like be encouraging that is so cool yes very very cool I suffered the fate of Mean Girls and I knew I could not join the drama club even though I just would I would win a star oh of course that is your calling even though I just would. I would win a star. Oh, of course. That is your calling. Even though I didn't really agree with a lot of their production choices. Like my senior play was Pippin. No, it wasn't.

Yeah, it was. But you were in your senior play. Oh, no, no. Sorry. My play the senior year was Pippin. And that was going to go out for it. But I'm like Pippin. And yes, the play that the senior class put on was 13 and while I didn't and I gave such

a stellar audition and I don't want to disrespect like anyone who was in the production because I feel like maybe they listened to the show but like I just know that I had a better singing voice than literally anyone like who got any bigger parts than me not to be rude but um it's true I'm sorry and I didn't get it and I just felt like like it was obviously because I had never been in drama club. And so the drama kids ran the senior production. So why are we going to give this person who literally never entered the theater, why are we going to give her a role? I did get a major solo that they cut.

And I threw a temper tantrum. And they did put it back in. Do you want to hear a sadder story? Yeah, I know yours. Yeah. So for our senior production it was um Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and I was really excited to participate and everybody who listens to the show knows that I cannot carry a tune but you have so much passion and I have so much passion

I feel like I have so much to offer and like in an acting role I feel like I feel like there's a role for me and also like being an integral part of an ensemble cast is not all about singing like it's about acting and dancing and energy yeah and I had the energy to bring and so I prepared for my audition obviously I sang the climb and I sang it like as good as I possibly could and I got the part of Violet Beauregard and I was so excited what a role perfect for you perfect for me like literally she doesn't sing that much but she has a big role and she's got a lot to offer. And then they canceled the play. Oh yeah.

There wasn't enough interest. There wasn't enough interest. That's really fucking sad. Yeah. Yeah. Well, my play did make it. It was 13 and I got the role of Cassandra. She was just like a chatty cheerleader.

And I'm not gonna lie. It was a wonderful experience. And it made me wish like my whole high school experience, like I had done theater. Yeah. Well, speaking of girlwithnojob.com slash book, are recording an episode next week that drops um launch week of the book with Claudia and the redheads and as part of every redheads episode if you listen we take questions from the listeners and so if you guys have questions about Claudia's book or upon reading

it you have questions about the book that you read or you know her journey as an author email them to theredheadsbookclub at gmail.com because the redheads book club is really living in the 90s what do you mean you take questions via email yes we do it works lovely why don't you take it on instagram like in the q a um no it's too fleeting and in email like people actually they write like thoughtful they write thoughtful things they talk about like their initial thoughts on the book and we read the whole thing oh that actually you know like it's they have a substance that's funny that's what we do at the redhead no substantial yeah speaking of podcasts I'm on mood with Lauren Elizabeth today just came out one of my favorite interviews of all time Lauren is a queen and I misspoke yesterday my Taylor

Strecker interview doesn't come out till next week. So sorry if you were looking for it yesterday. It's not out yet but Mood with Lauren Elizabeth is out today and it's so fabulous I think. Love to see it. Also the Snatchler is out today

and I'm sure she has a lot to say. We jinxed the Snatchler on this show yesterday. We did. I'm sorry Snatchler even though you don't listen. So should we just dive in

because I feel like we have lots to do. I think the Snatchler is the perfect segue into diving into the Fast Five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. Jackie, what's black and white and

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many people but this is the healthiest decision for us both at this time. We strongly believe in leading with love and always remaining true to oneself. We only hope for the best things for one another. I mean, this is so not shocking if you've been keeping up. Even in just the way that they met was so like toxic in a lot of ways, just like the jumping to conclusions, getting engaged after literally knowing each other for a week. And I'm honestly surprised they lasted as long as they did, but I have a feeling they haven't been together for quite some time um this just is like the least surprising thing ever and I don't know like it kind of makes me miss Claire like even though she was like so chaotic she was so entertaining and like this was even though it feels like a waste of time because they broke up it was an adventure it was an adventure I'm not

gonna lie obviously this is so obvious that's what you get when you don't trust the process and you go with your first instinct and you jump to conclusions but I just like when I think about Claire right now I feel sad you know like that was her big opportunity she completely botched it and in botching it she wanted to prove everyone botching it like I had hoped that knew, knew what she was doing and she didn't. And I don't know what happened here, but like, I don't think Dale signed on to the show to leave in a week and like be engaged and get married for the rest of his life. I just don't think that was like really what he wanted to do.

No, no, it's true. Like when you think about it, the odds of becoming the Bachelorette, which is such an amazing opportunity, are so slim. And the odds of getting it when you haven't been on the franchise in like six years are even more slim so it was really like this gift that was dropped into her lap and she totally squandered it and now it's like it's sad because it's like a joke yeah and she's single again when she had 25 guys who were I mean I want to say like who were there for her and wanting to get engaged to her.

But like Dale is one of those guys and I don't think that's what he wanted. Yeah, not everyone. There were people who were really interested in her and on the bright side, a contestant from her season has asked her out following their split. Stop. This guy, Spencer. Oh no, Spencer only came on for Tayshia. He never met Claire.

Oh, that's weird. So I hope they go out. I don't know. I'm just like kind of like as much as it is entertaining, it's also exhausting. And her journey just might not be one that needs to be televised. And I think maybe that's the lesson here. Yeah, no, no, no. That's the lesson here.

Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. That's the lesson here. It's like some journeys need not be televised. Yeah, but I hope that she goes on this date like I just I just want there to be like something next for her because I just feel really sad like she just took this big chance she blew up the bachelorette as Chris Harrison and for nothing yeah and I feel like she just deals with a lot personally and this is just like

and I feel like she takes like breakups really hard she's not the type of girl who like goes to a club and like she can't she we saw how took it when how hard she took it when no one got up to talk to her at the group date right and I'm thinking at the end of the day like maybe Dale just didn't show up no I think I think he did not show up and that's upsetting because he did mention you know quite a few times that he would show up he would be showing up yeah but then he did not and that's the worst when you're expecting someone to show up and they just don't. It's yeah. It's a flake. It's so flaky.

Yeah. One time you call me flaky and like it really affected me because I feel like I'm like not but like maybe I am. I don't know if that's the word I would use to describe you currently. Currently. No. But I think maybe when you said it you like kicked me into shape. Yeah.

That's probably true. It's like a hurtful word. Yeah it is. I think some people would describe me as flaky too really yeah sometimes I just don't I try not to be flaky because I just like don't commit to the initial plan the problem is when you make a commitment and that's why I live a commitment when I make a commitment I do try to honor it but I just try not to make commitments you know yeah when I make a commitment I try to honor it and just like pray

that the other person cancels first. There's literally nothing better than, like, really not wanting to go to do something. Even if you love the person, you just don't want to get out of your bed. And, like, just avoiding it. You're just, okay, I'm going to go. I'm not going to text them. And then, like, an hour before, they're like, hey, sorry, something came up. And you're just, like, so happy because you're not the flaky one.

And then you also don't have to get out of bed. Yeah. It's a beautiful thing. It's an iconic moment, yeah. So Claire, I don't know. I just, it made me sad. Like I can't. I know.

I wish I had some words of wisdom, but your energy, like I said, and have said many times, is super chaotic and I just don't know if like we would drive. Yeah. Well, our next story is some happy Bachelor news that I don't think we've shared yet.

One, Ari Leindyke jr and lauren burnham are pregnant with twins oh and they are revealing the sex do they have sexes an instagram account for the twins yet oh i'm sure that they do because they're like classic influencers like alessi had a baby sonogram before she was born like she had an Instagram with sonograms yeah and her Instagram is like popping now um but they are having a boy and a girl Alessi is getting a baby brother and a baby sister you know the more I think about it as a mom having twins just must be ideal I know I used to think it wasn't but now I think that it is it's like so much fucking work like I watched Olivia like just the pregnancy is just so much work on your body and it's so hard and then the nursing.

And to bang it out with two doesn't seem so bad. No, it doesn't seem so bad at all. The delivery, not ideal. But still. Yeah. I'm really happy for them. We never really talk about Ari and Lauren anymore but like. But we were big supporters of them.

And they really, they showed up for each other and they continued to and they proved everyone wrong when at the end of the day like I feel like one of the things I really I don't always agree with like Bachelor Nation in like their assumptions about people but I felt like they all really took Becca Kupfer inside in the Ari thing which of course like Ari shouldn't have chosen the wrong girl but he tried to right his wrong and in the end of the day like Becca ended up being becoming the bachelorette which for a multitude of reasons is like way better than being a winner like everyone wants to be the bachelorette winning is good too but it's not as good as becoming the bachelorette yeah so I feel like even though it was like a tough situation he handled it very well and he ended up following his heart and

literally him and Lauren have like such a beautiful life beautiful happy full peaceful life and I feel like they're one of the people who like Bachelor Nation like owes an apology to yeah there's a few people like that Olivia Carini yes she got her apology though she did um who else um me no I'm kidding I don't know but they're like that's just one of those things that like I remember was so crazy like when it was all going down it was like literally like the biggest scandal of our lives. And it's like, now it's so silly. Like they're so happy.

Yeah. They're so happy. So we're happy for them. See, Ari was a choice in bachelor. That was like so random, but I actually ended up really liking. Yeah.

Whereas Claire is like, I don't know. I just can't decide if I like lived for Claire season. I think I did. Like, I think I was living for the chaos. It is exciting. And honestly, like even though I'm really enjoying the season of Matt James,

like Matt James is a little boring because he's so nice and so lovely and is in love with everyone and everyone's in love with him. Like while that is beautiful to watch, it's not always the most entertaining. Whereas Claire, like you truly never know who she was going to yell at next. And it was iconic. Yeah, but I do think for the format of the show, like it is important that you feel like championing the lead. And Claire made that hard at times.

Yes, yes, yes. That's very true. She should also set up a date with that guy who left Taysha for her because that was a great guy. Unless he's in a relationship, yes. Yeah. He was a cutie. I think his name was Zach.

Jason. Sure. She should have trusted the process. The process would have shown her who was true. But you know what? She was so determined that even if she trusted the process, she would have ended up with Dale. No, but she might have seen something about Dale.

She might have like, you know, a different connection, might have burned slower, but prospered later. Like that's how the show works. Yeah. I mean, I don't know why they broke up, but if I had to venture a guess, it would definitely be on Dale's part. Like I think he wanted out. Yeah. I mean, I don't know why they broke up, but if I had to venture a guess, it would definitely be on Dale's part.

Like, I think he wanted out. Yeah, he was, like, out at restaurants, like, you know. I heard he was, like, seen at restaurants, like, with girls, even kissing them on the lips. Yeah. So, yeah. It was, I think Claire is definitely heartbroken right now. For sure.

And I think Dale is wondering how he gets to Paradise. Yeah. Or just how he gets to the next brand deal. I think Dale will probably be in Paradise, because they said that they're gonna most likely do paradise this year well i feel like it's actually really um conducive to covid because they don't leave the house yeah actually for the dates but yeah no i i think we'll be seeing him there yeah okay next story a little update from last week where we let you know that Armie Hammer was leaving the movie Shotgun Wedding. Josh Duhamel may replace him. Love that for Josh Duhamel. Any money in Josh Duhamel's pockets just really makes me happy. He's a king and I absolutely adore him. And so hot.

After Armie Hammer's DM scandal, it has come back to bite him. Josh Duhamel is swooping in to offer a helping hand. The Transformers actor is reportedly in early talks to take over for Armie Hammer in Shotgun Wedding, which co-stars Jennifer Lopez, according to Deadline. So it's not confirmed yet. But I also think that Josh Duhamel, like if this is some sort of romantic comedy, I think Josh Duhamel is the guy.

I mean, there were those years where literally Josh Duhamel could not make a bad movie. Win a Date with Tad Hamilton, so fucking good. That other one with Katherine Heigl where they get the baby, and their friends die and they have to take care of the baby, and they end up falling in love, and she's like a morning show producer. Oh, wait, I'm going. I feel like you're putting two Katherine Heigl movies together.

No, I'm not. Because she's a morning show. Well, no, she's an E! News host in Knock Knock. But no, that's not it. OK. Their friends die and they're like two friends who hate each other. But they have to come together because they leave the baby to both of them. And of course, they end up falling in love and like becoming a family. Yes. Yes. Also, what's the movie called? I'm going to find it, but also Safe Haven. Yes, of course. Life as we know it. Yes. That's the one. He's just like a great rom-com actor and I love him and he's so handsome. Like I hope every time I talk about someone on the show who I like, like someone sends

me a message about like something bad they did. Please do not send me any messages about Josh Duhamel. Like I just want to live in a world where he's like a nice and respectful chivalrous man. And I know that he is. I do. Yeah. I know it in my heart.

The Lost Husband. No, I just watched that. Oh yeah. I never saw it. It was good. He he was great he's just so handsome like yeah a great leading man in a rom-com he's also in New Year's Eve oh yes that was a bad one yeah but Valentine's Day was good I they're the same thing to me no one has Taylor Swift and one does not so okay, next story. Kim Kardashian and Kanye West's marriage issues. What we featured on Keeping Up With The Kardashians. I mean, it's actually crazy, by the way, that we've been literally talking about the Kardashians and Kim has not spoken out on it once.

I know. And I just wanted to take this moment to recognize that it's been a few weeks of these rumors and Kim still has not said anything. And for the Kimye stans, we're in a good spot. There is a beacon of light. There is light for the Kimye stans, like, we're in a good spot. There is a beacon of light. There is light for the Kimye stans. Kim has filmed her marriage problems with Kanye for the final episodes

of Keeping Up. Page Six has exclusively learned, though Page Six was the one to report that they were divorcing. Yes. So, grain of salt. A source with knowledge of their show, which is ending after more than

a decade-long run and 20 seasons on E! later this year, said the disintegration of Kim and Kanye's marriage will feature heavily in the final storyline as they make their exit from the reality show. I mean, that's like, if they are actually headed for divorce and like that's the final season,

like sad. Like I want to see a final season with like iconic Kris Jenner moments. Like I want everyone to be drinking. Like I want light and happiness and positivity. I'm so done with like my TV shows becoming just as sad as the world around us like I need a place to be filled with positivity and light and that has been keeping up the Kardashians and I don't want to see even if they are getting divorced honestly I'd rather they ignore it yeah

the source said that the Kardashians intend to go out with a bang they filmed Kim discussing her marriage problems but everybody involved is on an NDA because the finale won't air until later in 2021 okay I just want to say my personal opinion considering like sources just make shit up my opinion is that that is not true because I think they would rather go into their new show with a bang than leave it at E where they've already been paid and they have they don't owe them ratings I know but I feel like they really um care about the legacy of the original show and it's obviously about the legacy is intact yeah all they have to do is film another season of the same stuff that they were filming I actually don't think different show I don't think that they are inclined to give any big scoop to the last season

and at some point when they start talking about drama that literally was two years ago like I actually don't care. Yeah I'm gonna say like maybe I'll be wrong but I just don't think that that makes sense. Like when you're leaving your job you don't like do the best work ever in the last two weeks. Yeah but it's all topical so I actually feel like they will discuss it on this season and then still go into the new show with a bang. I'm excited for the new show. Like I hope it's different format in the sense of like, I feel like a lot of times when there's not a lot going on in the Kardashians lives, it's so much commercials with filled with like filler airtime and like

dumb lunch scenes with like Scott and MJ. Like I'm looking for more substance. I do like their friendship. As do I, but not, they're not the stars of the show. And sometimes it has felt that way. So I'm looking for more substantial content from them in 2021 via Hulu.

Yeah. Or 2022, whenever it is. Whenever it is. It'll be good. It'll be good. No, I'm excited for them. Starting a new venture is always exciting. And I support them no matter what.

I agree. Fifth and final story, a little record-breaking news. Oh, yes. Morgan Wallen's Dangerous, the double album, debuts at number one on the Billboard 200, breaks country streaming records. I thought you were talking about Olivia Rodrigo. Well, we did talk about Olivia Rodrigo last week also,

but we can talk about her too, because she's literally broken every streaming record, like 13 million streams daily. Debuted number one. I just thought that's what you were referring to. But this is also very interesting, especially because I'm a really big Morgan Wallen fan, but I haven't had the time to listen to the album like at all I've made the time and I haven't heard it anywhere so I'm like and and he actually released

it early because it got leaked so it was like a really kind of a messy release but to still break all those records when you don't even have like the proper like you do like announcement then you do press and all this like it's so contrived is awesome no the album is sensational and I think it's just like a testament to how many Morgan Wallen stans they are out there I see you guys and I'm so I'm so glad that there's so many of us he's ushering in like a new generation of young country music fans a hundred percent he was on the cover I think it was a billboard this week country without borders which I thought was a really great headline I don't get it it's like because he transcends the country genre like everybody

loves right it's like doctors without borders like oh I do love a doctors without borders reference seeing as how Theo is truly like um the doctor without one border without a single one and he's really like the leader of all the doctors who collectively don't have any borders yes and I just have to say doctors Doctors Without Borders is an amazing organization. We're not making fun of it, but it's just like a little joke here at the Toast. Yeah, that Theo, Dr. Theodore Fritz-Hemann is a doctor without borders. Yeah, and I think it's so important.

Like when I go to doctors, I ask them, I'm like, do you guys have borders? Because like, I just think it's so important. To not. I think it's an important quality, yeah. Yeah, and that's how I now feel about my country artists. If you are a country artist with borders, like, goodbye. Goodbye.

Goodbye. So Morgan Wallen has none. Not one. Thank God. None. Not one. Zero. Zero.

Zero. Done. I'm so happy for him and his borderless music. Yeah. So he has. Do you remember the bookstore Borders? Yes. That was an iconic place.

It was so warm and cozy. It was just like a friendly place. But I think the issue with it was that they had Borders. And that's why they didn't succeed. You mustn't have one. No, not a single one. It is integral. I just, I really do think that this is a really interesting factoid.

Obviously the album is really good. But I do think album streams are suffering like in this um new world yeah in the climate right now where you're not going out you're not like you know taken out actually i think you can go on a boat right now but like you know where it's not the atmosphere to just be listening to music all the time and so i think like the fact that so many people have elected to stream morgan wallen's album says a lot about his future as like a major country music artist. I couldn't agree more. And if I see one more fucking TikTok

of people in Australia at a club, I'm literally just going to move there. I saw them literally playing Champagne Problems in a fucking club. So like- In a club. In a club, like packed to the brim, Champagne Problems, everyone vaccinated,

happy and healthy. Like, I was just saying this to you earlier. Like, if I don't get to a club soon, like'm she's gonna burst I'm starting to malfunction like because we're coming up on like the one year you should find the last club that you last day that you went to a club like in your camera roll I'm sure I can tell you because you're coming up on one year of yeah it was president's day weekend I went on a bender and a half in Miami with Margo. And we like heard about coronavirus. We're like, well, it'll go away. And it was like a messy ass weekend.

And you know what? No regrets because I didn't know I would have to literally rely on those memories for literally 12 months, maybe more. Probably more. Yeah. I'm just saying like, and I know my fellow party girls listening will definitely hear like relate to this, but I'm just letting you know, like, if I don't get to a club in the next six months, like, there will be consequences.

And that's on facts. Like, and I'm sorry, but that's just what's going to happen. We'll do our best. Human nature is human nature. Yeah. You can only keep her out of the club for so long. You know, I will literally go to an empty club. Like, I just need to feel, like, the lights. The music in your veins. The music in my veins, the lights on my face, Yeah, no, I will literally go to an empty club. Like, I just need to feel like the lights.

The music in your veins. The music in my veins, the lights on my face, like people's hot breath everywhere, like, I don't know. I just, if I don't get to a club soon, like,

there will be consequences and that's, that's the end of that. Let's dive into our TV recap segment where we talk about the Royal Hospice of Dallas before we bring on

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outdoor pool party where I can dance on a table and get sprayed with champagne and i just want to thank mr westcott senior thank you sir for providing the grounds in which this party was held it was so beautiful and stunning and like just a beautiful change of scenery agreed and i wonder how he's gonna feel about seeing tiffany like regurgitate tequila tequila into his hot tub. Like why not just in the grass? Yeah. Um, that, but I just think it was so generous of him. I agree. And it's so generous of Cameron to throw that party. Like that is an expensive party. That is a really nice party to throw for a friend. Yeah. But Karin and Cam have a really good relationship. Um, it was nice to see Brandy back. Like she definitely has a lot of energy and she's missed when she's not around. So I was glad to have her back um it looked

like such a fun party really I feel like um I was following the Twitter drama between Cameron and Tiffany into last night's episode and Cameron I guess she like really does not drink a lot but she was like drunk and she was like oh my god I can't even watch this like she just like was like a dog with a bone like not letting it go well that's oh I forgot but like that was when like Carrie Duber would call her like badger yeah that's her. That is how she gets when she's fighting with someone. Yeah but she recognized it on Twitter and we love to see someone who recognizes their own shortcomings. Because it was like it was getting to be too much.

And her and Tiffany seemed to have like some sort of rapprochement on Twitter last night. Like it wasn't toxic and negative. They were like working together. That's great. Yeah it was good. The party seemed fun except you know Carrie Brittingham is really annoying. Like with her I am like that too but she like, takes it to a level that's so aggressive, being the fun police.

And I understand, like, you want it, but you don't have to worry about these women. Like, everyone will get fucked up. And I thought she really took it too far when she pushed Tiffany in the pool. And I couldn't believe Tiffany didn't freak out more. Like, I would have been so fucking annoyed. No, me too. Regardless of whether or not you can swim, like, to be pushed in the pool is just such a juvenile thing to do.

In a full hair and makeup. Especially full hair and makeup. Like stunning dress. On camera. Like I feel like when the cameras went down, everyone like fully went in the pool. But we're still working on a television show. Like you want to look pretty.

You're not going to like look like a wet dog getting out of a pool. That's a crazy thing to do. It was really rude. I do think Carrie Brittingham looks amazing for 50 though. Like it's crazy. That photo shoot, like she actually looked fire. Yeah. The photo shoot was like a little funny oh no the photo shoot was lame sorry it was like qvc but i meant like her body oh yeah she looks incredible but just it was a little like uh it was very home shopping network corny yeah yeah but like home shopping network plus nipple

plus a nipple and like ass cheek too yeah totally um and then uh Travis and Stephanie like Travis is like such a dick sometimes and I'm surprised he hasn't seen himself on TV and like reeled in that behavior and sometimes it's like endearing and funny but like sometimes it's just not yeah but I also can appreciate someone who like isn't just saying stuff because cameras are there that's you know it's just like being their their self yeah I I just think him and Stephanie have like a really healthy marriage. Like if you're having those conversations on TV. On camera. And it's not toxic.

Like it's really helpful conversations. I agree. Like the conversation that they had by their lake, just so beautiful. Oh, by their lake. Which was a tough conversation to have. But like the fact that they had it on camera I think is really healthy. And then they also did their interview together where they're like fighting about money and I think the fact that

they can do that on camera like means it's not so serious I agree I think they have such a good marriage and I'm actually the more I think about it I think Dallas housewives like have some of the best marriages like Deandra and Jeremy I'm just obsessed like Jeremy's so hot like and he thinks Deandra's so hot it's just like it's such a healthy relationship Cameron and Court are hysterical like two people speaking totally different languages Court and um Stephanie I'm not Court what's his name Travis and Stephanie and I also think that Brandy and Brian have a good marriage but they really went through it on her first season I don't think he's into filming and he was like made into a villain and I think he wants nothing to do with it but like likes the money and fame that it brings for Brandy but doesn't want himself to be a part of it which i could respect yeah um carrie and her husband seem to be doing better

oh i think he got he saw himself on tv and he's just trying to be supportive yeah and we don't know a lot about tiffany's husband but i'm sure she seems like she has a happy home life tiffany is getting a lot of personal air time i mean the whole episode was her shopping for groceries yeah no but also she probably gets as much narrating time like confessional time as Cameron if not more like I feel like it's majority Tiffany and Cameron agreed which is a lot for a first season housewife I agree but she's super funny and her confessional looks are fire yeah um so it's it just looks such a good season like if you're if you're not into housewives um I would really recommend starting with this

it's also easy to start with Salt Lake City because there's only one season but Salt Lake City is like right now to me feels like a good reality show I guess because they haven't had a reunion yet like it's not it doesn't have that like housewives feel yet there's only one season right that's why it's easy to get into honestly I feel like Potomac is actually really there's only five seasons Potomac and Dallas are really good places I feel like Potomac is actually really there's only five seasons Potomac and Dallas are really good places I feel like for housewives stand like newbies to start yeah excuse me oh my god I just had to pick up um so anything else about Dallas housewives that you want to talk about no I'm just really enjoying it like it's nice to have a franchise that you enjoy but and

the wealth is is real OC is on tonight reunion part one and like I know that this season was trash but I actually sometimes think that the worse that a season is the better the wealth is real. OC is on tonight. Reunion part one. And like I know that this season was trash. But I actually sometimes think that the worse that a season is the better the reunion is. Yes. Because there's like more to talk about. And there's this huge rumor going around. Right. That Bronwyn offered cocaine to Shannon's daughter. And that it comes up at the reunion.

Right. And Bronwyn actually responded to a comment. Because like once this rumor came out, and it came out on like a bunch of Bravo blogs, which isn't always like the most accurate news source, but I think it was pretty much validated. Someone commented on Bronwyn. I guess a lot of people did.

And she answered one of them being like, I don't remember it. Shannon retold it to me. I made amends. And then I found out from someone else like who was there. That's really not how it went down. We'll see. But that's fucking crazy crazy so in my opinion that should be grounds for firing yeah

so I'm I'm actually looking forward to the OC reunion me too and um it appears as though Gina is looking phenomenal with her short healthy hair and if I'm going to talk negatively about her hair when it looks good I have to allot some air time to talking about it positively and it looks really really good and I'm really happy for her and now after a full season of OC I see how I ended last season as a somewhat of a Gina Stan by the way me too but you just cannot deny that the queen of OC is currently Emily Simpson like you literally and then I know you want to deny it for Emily Simpson I'm Emily Simpson and I know you want to deny it I'm not but you can't she has so much energy and by the way she went on this like huge health journey so I think at the reunion

she we're pretty caught up she is the snatchler she's like so funny I watched her a little bit of her on Heather McMahon's podcast and like she was just like really taking charge of like the narrative especially around Shane and their marriage because like I kind of feel bad for like Shane is kind of like a joke to people he He's like short. I don't think anymore. I think he had a very redeeming season. He did, but I just think the way like the audience treats him like is like jokey. And I just thought she was like really like

standing up for her man. And I just loved it. Like I just love her. She might be one of my favorite housewives like of all time. Wow. Even though on the worst franchise with the worst cast ever.

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No, I just, never mind. Were you being rude? No. Sounds like you were being a little rude. I wasn't. I wasn't. I thought maybe that you had forgotten. How could I forget?

I have so many cards here. Okay. Sorry. Go on. I'm trying to rush me through my Emily Simpson monologue. See, I told you. She doesn't want me to like Emily Simpson. Okay.

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Sorry for making fun of your grammar. We didn't. Anyways, to to my question my fiance lives with his roommate mark mark has recently been bringing this girl home from work to stay the night this is totally fine as i stay the night once or twice a week as well just to get away from my parents every so often however he and this girl have been having sex literally every five seconds and it's loud we can hear everything through the wall. She likes to yell and we can hear everything they are saying. It's a bit much.

Monday night, they did it about three times in the span of 24 hours and each time we could hear them throughout the house. This has become super problematic, especially when we are trying to get work or school done. My poor fiance was in the middle of a Zoom meeting when they started and he had to go outside because of their ear blasting humping my fiance says this has been going on for two weeks molly doesn't mind that his roommate does it but it's getting to a point where it's almost unbearable in the middle of the night early in the morning during a zoom my question is how can we politely let our friend mark know that him him and his girlfriend are just too fucking loud when they

are doing the nasty without being so overt the walls are thin but it's like they know they are loud and don't care should i push my fiance to set some boundaries talk to mark myself or just let That's really tough. I think there's a few things. One, I think that this is like a phase of their relationship that, you know, eventually it will fizzle into like a less frequent activity. They will be miss fizzle. But I think that if it's interrupting Zoom calls in work and school, you could just say, you know, or have your fiance say, bro, like, could you just not while during the workday?

Because sometimes you can hear it. And by the way, it feels like an awkward conversation. But when boys do it, it's like, bro, like, it's not weird. I don't think it's weird. And also maybe he has no idea that like you could really hear so much and and I think that would make him like just a little self-aware and be more conscious of that especially conscious of what time of day it's going down and maybe conscious of spending some time at the girl's apartment like why is it always on mark and his roommate right I would just say honesty is the best policy like this is just something that you just have to confront head on yeah and it's all it's always about the delivery

not the message yeah like it's not angry you know right it's not angry it's just like heads up like we can hear you we're in a shared workspace like it's unprecedented time yeah you know no you're right in these unprecedented times we have to learn how to live together and communicate and this is a prime example of that it's just the topic is a little uncomfortable but you can do it pretend it's about a different topic then yeah you know say he's working out yeah machine is rattling the floors yeah i hear you're elliptical yeah so approach it as you would something that's not a sensitive topic yeah just pretend you're talking about something else all right next up dear jackie and claudia long time toaster here i just have to thank you for all of your joy and laughter that

the toast has brought me, especially during the hard days of quarantine. My boyfriend and I have been together for about three years and always had a really healthy and fun relationship. We don't live together, but it's something we've talked about in the next year or so. Over the last month, my boyfriend has talked a lot about this girl that he works with, Red. That's her name.

Through mutual friends, she met my boyfriend who referred her to his work and basically got her a job on his team. He calls her his work wife, raves about how fun and crazy in a good way she is a few times his laptop has been open to their work messages on teams and they seemed very flirty and definitely not the way i talk to guys at my work i noticed that she was messaging him her name popped up on his phone and while he was reading the messages he was smiling to himself but quickly put his phone down and turned it over i'm not a jealous or insecure person but something about this just gives me a weird feeling to layer it on recently my boyfriend opened up to me that he is feeling disconnected and frustrated in our relationship and wants to spice things up in the bedroom and it's in an attempt to feel more

connected over the last month i felt him being more distant as i am the one who usually messages him first calls and facetimes him goes to, etc. Am I being crazy and thinking that something is going on and it's weird to have a work wife? No, you're not crazy. That you message and chat with outside of work hours? Do I have enough of a leg to stand on to confront my boyfriend about this? Or do you think this is normal low point for long-term couples, especially given that we aren't seeing each other as frequently due to COVID? Signed, a confused corporate toaster.

No, there is a... I like to say where there is smoke, there is not always fire. But this building is a blaze. No, this would really, really bother me. And it's something that's difficult to, um, to navigate. And verbalize. And it's not something I thought about before, but this notion of a work wife, I'm just not okay with. Me neither. Unless you're both single. Right. And in which case maybe get together. You're my work wife. Yeah. I'm, I'm really not here for this. And honestly honestly because it's so seemingly innocuous right now like anything that you say you will sound crazy and you'll only drive him closer to her and you don't have any concrete proof and like him saying

he wants to spice things up and this is the last things you want to hear but this is how I feel him saying he wants to spice things up in the bedroom it's like he's thinking like I think he's trying not to have an affair and so he's like let's make the sex crazier at home a hundred percent and part of me is like mad at him. I'm sorry to laugh like I don't know what I would do. I'm laughing because I'm uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable and like literally like I feel for you but I kind of want you to take your power back and like break up with him like. But he hasn't done anything wrong yet. No I know but like just like the inferences he's making like I know what his plan is and like I want to beat him to it. No and like him looking at his phone

and smiling. Oh how dare you. It's like gnawing at me. Chill bone chilling. How dare you it's like gnawing chill bone chilling how dare you laugh at your phone when i didn't send that message how fucking dare you 100 i'm so angry and you know what i kind of like go go to your work wife you'll be happy there does she love you like i can no she make the bed and talk in the corners like i do no yeah i just feel like the next update is not going to be a good one. I would love to hear back from you. What's our advice here? Run. Monitor the situation. You know, get... What nerve? I want to spice things up. Why? Because you fell in love with your work wife. Now it's my problem. You never told me. I have to put on titty tassels. That ain't right. That ain't right. Now I have to incur the cost of all these new products in the bedroom because you fell in

love with your work wife and you can't stop smiling at your phone dick I hate this guy oh my god I know but like I think this is a common thing like people you spend a lot of time talking to the people that you work with say there's someone that you vibe with it doesn't necessarily mean a fair but it is this like titillating extracurricular activity what do you do about it that's why i'm girl no job you know and i'm married boy with no job because he won't have a work wife because you know what i won't allow it my house we have a couple rules you take your shoes off and you don't have a work wife yeah you know what i think i i think that he needs a taste of his own medicine i think you need to get a work husband i think you need to start smiling at your phone

and and like saying these things that you need to do in the bedroom that like would never occur to him. That'll be like, where are you getting these ideas? Yeah. That's the advice. That is it. A taste of his own medicine. Yes. To see how uncomfortable it feels like to feel like second fiddle.

Yeah. And it doesn't even have to be like a work husband. If you could just find someone like who you really vibe with, like, and just like start texting them a lot. Yeah. And smiling. Or like literally like, I don't know, get on Tinder or something. Just like find someone.

Because that's cheap. Like then you cross the line. That's cheap. Then you cross the line. That's true. Don't cross the line. You just have to toe the line like he is. Okay, you're right. You're right. Please update us.

I would love to know what this prick does next. Unless you guys like, unless you're overblowing it and he's a nice guy and like you guys are happy that I'm here after and then I'm really happy for you. Hi, Claudia and Jackie. How you doing? My PJom boyfriend of five years recently proposed over the holiday season. Mazel tov. I couldn't be happier but I'm already running into issues with my future sister-in-law. I love my fiance's family but anytime the wedding is brought up she always has something negative

to say. She complains about how expensive a certain bachelorette location would be but I wasn't even planning on inviting her to my bachelorette party. She has told us that we cannot have our wedding until spring of 2022 as she wants to get pregnant and have a baby before the summer to top it all off i will not that's just not how weddings work no way they don't revolve around the groom's sister's pregnancy calendar of the groom's sister to top it all off i will not be having her as a bridesmaid because i just don't want her in the wedding and my fiance agrees saying it is completely my decision it sounds like you have a great fiance so supportive focus on that my future sister-in-law's

best friend okay so the sister-in-law's best friend who's like family knows I'm not having her in the bridal party but has said that the sister-in-law will be upset how can I want to ask sorry how can I want to ask her to be a bridesmaid where she's going to have to spend significantly more money than she would just as a guest when all she has done is make negative comments about all the aspects of the wedding and complains about money constantly i'm 100 sure i don't want her in the wedding but i feel like i need to incorporate her in some other way as two married women any advice advice on what i could do to incorporate her into this day so by the way because she's married the sister-in-law you do have a little bit of an out because once you're married like you don't always become a bridesmaid

like you're like a matron or something a matron a modern you could say that like give her like a fake title those exist for like married women who you don't want me to be bridesmaids and I just have to say like wedding is a one time in your life when you can be selfish and like I just would not give a single thought to what this girl's feeling is on the schedule on the money like oh of course but I would just say that like if you do plan on burning this bridge which I do think like not having her as part of your bridal party is is a big fu you need to be okay with like the possible fallout yeah and me and me not having a close relationship with her and I don't know how your husband's relationship is with her but if you're gonna do that just realize what you're doing and I'm not saying that you shouldn't

because I think that someone bring that brings so much negativity to your day it's right and you just got engaged and you could already feel like the breeding ground of negativity right but I do think giving her this title like matron of honor or something you could say like I want you to be and maybe she walks down in the wedding procession like that's a fine thing for her to do but then that's no bachelor party like you'll be like a matron of honor so you'll be in my like wedding uh procession but no obligation to be on the bachelorette party as I know that like the cost is not something that you're willing to front yeah I you know whenever I'm like I experienced it a little bit with my own wedding even like use her own words against her and be like because I've heard all of your

concerns about an expensive bachelorette party I wanted to make sure that you didn't feel obligated to come. I experience it like very little with my own wedding. But when we read these Dear Toaster submissions, I'm always really, really surprised at how much gall people have during other people's like simchas. It's crazy. Like all you have to do, it's so easy. You just show up literally like Claire. And be fucking be quiet and show up smile drink done yeah no like I'm actually such a great wedding guest even though I hate weddings um but like I will eat all your food I will drink all your drinks and I will dance the night away like I'm actually like

a great I'm worth the $200 you know whatever it's easy to be a good wedding guest but like say you're a bridesmaid for someone like I can't imagine saying anything like okay where are we going for a bachelorette sweet let's go like it depends because there are some girls and boys who have like a million best friends and have been a bridesmaid like a million times where it's like I can probably count on my hand besides for my family like the people whose weddings I will be in and have been in because I have like very few close friends and so like their happiness like means so much to me because I value their friendship but when you have like a thousand best friends and you're like you just got a rogue friend that you feel obligated to include school college like you they're less meaningful yeah and so like you're

just whatever complaining about the bachelorette party because like you've been on a thousand this year yeah so my advice would be to um the single girls really hone in on your close friends. Yeah. It's quality over quantity. You don't need a thousand bridesmaids. You don't have to make hard choices and you don't have to include girls who aren't going to show up for you. And we're going to be negative. Yeah. So that's Dear Toasters. Again, you can always write into us deartoasters at gmail.com. If you have written into us and we have read your prompt on air, please write us again. Let us know how it turned out. A little update we would always appreciate. And next up, we've got our interview

with Cameron Westcott from The Real Housewives of Dallas. If you're watching us on YouTube, the interview is podcast only. Since we are living in COVID times, Cameron joined us via Zoom, and she is just a queen, and it's such a fun interview. She's such a great gal. Yeah. So stay tuned for that, and thank you so much for listening to The Morning Toast. Enjoy.

We'll see you tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Welcome back to the podcast. We are honored to be joined by someone we've been speaking about a lot here at the podcast. Someone who is now a two-time guest, Ms. Cameron Westcott from the Real Housewives of Dallas. Hello, Cameron. Thank you so much. Thanks so much for having me. I'm so excited.

Like seeing you guys makes me so happy. So seeing you makes us so happy. Seeing you back on TV with the girls. Like we are so happy to have Real Housewives of Dallas back in our lives. And this season is just off to a great start. A really fiery start too. Like lots of Twitter drama. We've been keeping up with it all.

It is too much. Like I have like anxiety over this Twitter drama. I'm like, I'm not used to this stuff. Like I know other, you know, other anxiety over this Twitter drama. I'm like, I'm not used to this stuff. Like I know other, you know, other franchises have Twitter drama sometimes, but I'm like, oh my God, it gives me like anxiety. Well, you're really holding your own against one Miss Tiffany Moon. Um, we saw a little bit of the drama start. I could definitely feel like there was some tension, um, at the dim sum brunch. And then it kind of took it to another level on Twitter. And then you were on watch happens live and you looked great. Have you

spoken to Tiffany in real life off social media yet? Since dim sum? Yeah. Yes. We, you know, her and I, we text here and there, but we don't have like full conversations. You know, she actually reached out to me after the show and wanted to get dinner and like catch up and I was moving and things got, you know, kind of crazy with the move. And so we really just haven't caught up and, you know, talked about things. So yeah, we haven't seen each other since. Have you moved officially? Yes. I'm in my dream house now. Look at this. I'm like literally here. I can't believe it. I literally sold my house and I, during a pandemic, which is so crazy, I didn't even think that was possible. And it sold so fast. My realtor sold it in like 20, like literally 24,

it was like 24 hours. So this season is really just, you guys are only like two or three episodes in, but it really feels, and what I love about Dallas is like, I feel like you guys have really true friendships that are on the show, off the show, between a lot of the women, but this is our first season without Leigh-Anne. And we spoke to Deandra last week on the podcast about how the attitude of the show definitely feels more different. Do you agree with that? Yes, I do agree. I do think the other girls put their walls down because no, I do believe the other girls put their walls down because no law, uh, I do believe the other girls put their walls down because Leanne is no longer in her group. And I think they were able to get to know me more and not be as nervous. I think they were all very afraid of Leanne,

sadly. I mean, I don't think they want to admit it, but I think they had guards up around her and it makes me sad because I really wish they had gotten to know the real her because I loved her and I thought she was really, really great. So I think the dynamic is, you know, just us having more fun together and enjoying each other and like trusting each other and just, you know, going out and having fun. We're outside though when we go out. That definitely comes through. I feel like one of the friendships that we're so excited about seeing play out is the friendship between you and Stephanie, because in past seasons, it's been a little tense between the two of you. So how did you

guys for us? It's been hard for us as viewers. And like, you guys are both of our fan favorites, and we would never pick a side. So how do you guys come to reconcile and start to build a great friendship? Yeah. Well, I'm so beyond thankful for that, that we're friends right now. I literally can't believe I'm sitting here even saying this, but we're really good friends. Like I talked to her the most over, I talked to her and Carrie Bradyham the most on the cast actually, which is so funny.

And I even talked to Brandy also. We text each other all the time too. And that actually never really happened before. Who would have thought? So who would have thought? But you know, it really was Carrie Brenningham bringing us together because Carrie's like, Oh my God, Cam is fun. You guys, you got to give her a chance. And you know, sometimes I could come off stuffy and you know, maybe like I look at you funny and people think I'm uptight, but like when people get to know me, it's like, that's not who I am. I can come off looking like that. I mean, but once they got to know me, they realized like, Oh wait, I'm actually fine. They actually like me. So I was like, yes,

I'm like, I got more friends. I'm so excited. And, and we really are just having the best time together. And I always wanted to be their friend. I always want to be their friend. And somehow, I don't know how all this drama always got in between us. I really don't know how. And I really think they didn't trust me because I was so close to Leigh-Anne and they were afraid of Leigh-Anne. So they were like, Ooh, we're afraid of Leigh-Anne. So we don't trust Cam. Like, I think I just- No, I think, I think that's actually a really accurate, like historical, like that really is how it went down um and in terms of carrie i love carrie but she's definitely becoming a little polarizing i think that tiffany was kind of put off by her and some of the women were like no that's just like how she is it's not

she's not bullying she's just like the fun police but in a good way um but it's the fun police but it did feel like you know what tiffany was accusing Carrie of, she ended up really doing to you at the? And I'm like, kind of confusing at times. Confusing. Interesting. Well, will we get to see your home journey on this season since you sold your home quickly and then found your dream home? You are going to get it. You're going to get to see my home journey. You're going to get to see the highs and lows of the whole process cleaning up. I had to make sure my house was clean. And the thing is, if we did have a tour, we just had a hope that everyone coming in was healthy. And we'd have just, you know, Lysol everything after the tour. And, and we ended up driving around the block because we couldn't go anywhere when we had an open house, like where are we going to go? We couldn't take the animals or COVID. So we would drive around the block because we couldn't go anywhere when we had an open house. Like where were we going to go? We couldn't take the animals and kids in here with COVID. So we would drive

around the block. I mean, there was times when we were filming and we had an open house and I literally was in my robe in full glam sitting at the park. And Carrie calls me, she's like, what are you doing? I go, well, I didn't have time to get dressed because I'm in such a rush. I've been glam and I'm in my robe sitting in my car waiting for the people to get out of my house. That is so funny. Oh my God. And by the way, we, people can't see you cause we're doing a podcast, but you are wearing one of the cutest sweaters that has a little embroidered picture of your new dog Fancy. Yes. I was really shook hearing about how your previous dog Louie passed away. And honestly, like if I was in that situation, like, I don't think I would ever forgive my husband. Like I

would kill him in exchange for the life that he took. So how are you guys reconciling that? That is really traumatic. It was so hard. I have to be completely honest. We had to do therapy sessions because I blamed him. And I told him when I was going to New York for fashion week, I literally get in the Uber and he says, I got everything taken care of. And I said, give my dog his medicine. He goes, Oh, I got it taken care of. Oh yeah. I talked to him later that night. He didn't give the dog the medicine. I literally am freaking out. He's on the phone with me saying he can't find my dog. And I go, what do you mean? You can't find my dog? My heart automatically dropped. And I was like,

thinking the worst. Oh my God, my dog is probably dead on the floor somewhere. I like literally freaked out. He hired a therapist to be at my house when I came home from New York because he was so afraid of me. A buffer, a buffer. That's actually really smart. It's a really good idea. Yes. And so how was the training going with the new dog? That was so funny when the dog was so interesting to watch. You got so many good factoids about training. I'm also training a puppy right now. And I'm like, Oh, I need to do that more. Oh, Brad Bevel is so beyond amazing. And he's with Bevel dog training. And he is like, I honestly have never met a dog trainer that has been so amazing in years.

And he has trained fancy to be a little robot. When, when Brad comes over and he starts doing like the tricks with fancy, I'm like, I still am learning how to do everything that he does. I mean, obviously I'm never going to be that good, but she came home, no accidents anymore. She doesn't tear stuff up. She's not going after my shoes anymore. She had no remorse. She would chew molding before. She's not going after my shoes anymore. She had no remorse. She would chew molding before she left, before she left her puppy school. She'd

chew my molding in my bathroom. Especially when you're trying to sell your house. That's really like, I literally would give her bones and she would literally choose the molding. That's so funny. Well, she seems like she's on a good journey. Yeah. She's on a great journey and she's just the littlest, happiest little Pomeranian. She's so funny. Well, she seems like she's on a good journey. Yeah. She's on a great journey and she's just the littlest, happiest little Pomeranian. She's so cute. Speaking of puppies, Sparkle Dog is like popping off right now. I saw you guys are making bully sticks, which I'm going to have to get because my dog is addicted to bully sticks. How is everything going in the Sparkle Dog world? Yes, it's going really great. Fancy loves everything that

Louie picked out. You know, Louie, it was the taste tester of everything. So she has approved everything, which is amazing. I know I wouldn't know if she wasn't eating the treats that I would be like, we're going to have a major problem over here, but thank gosh, she loves everything. And I don't know what I do without my bully sticks because they're so amazing. And especially during this pandemic, they go do without my bully sticks because they're so amazing. Especially during this pandemic, they go straight to your door. Everything's on Amazon. So it is the easiest thing they, you know, Amazon prime will be in your door in two seconds. And we got, that's so great. We got a sparkle dog, a multivitamin chewy bites, which are little heart shaped vitamins. And it's like a, it's a little soft chew vitamin. They take one a day.

are little heart shaped vitamins and it's like a, it's a little soft chew vitamin. They take one a day. And then we also have all different shapes and flavors of the dog biscuits. Wow. So the Cameron Westcott brand is just exploding on all ends because you're also now a podcaster, which first of all, we'd like to officially welcome you into the podcast space. I think you're going to be great. Honestly, when I'm watching you, I feel like maybe more this season, you're just getting, um, a lot more airtime in terms of your confessionals and you're being so funny. And like, honestly, that kind of savage. And I think that if you're going to bring that energy to your podcast and people are really going to respond to it and you're co-hosting it with your, um, castmate Carrie. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm really excited. You know, I think what

happened with me is it took me a couple of years to really put my wall down and get comfortable with being in the public eye and having all this attention. Like I'm, I wasn't ever used to that. Like I never been that type of person. And I really feel like you guys are just really getting to see the real me. And I think because I'm being so real and open that I'm getting more airtime naturally just because, you know, people are liking it. So I'm like, yes, I'm like, it's so great. And I think I just don't care what people think anymore. You know, I think I get to a point where it's like, I know who I am. I know my morals and my values. I'm not going to alter them for attention. I'm going to be who I am. And people like me. That's great. And they don't. Oh, well, that's so freeing to have that mentality. Yeah. It took me a couple of years. It takes time. It really does. I think one of my favorite memories of you on housewives is when you brought everyone, I think it was your home in Colorado. Is that right? Yes. Are we ever going back? Because that was such an iconic trip. And I

feel like this group of ladies that are really jiving very well, like need a Colorado weekend. And I feel like this group of ladies that are really jiving very well, like need a Colorado weekend. I a hundred percent agree. I am so beyond sad. We sold our Colorado house. I like, I know I am like heartbroken. It was actually my in-laws house and they no longer wanted to ski. And so we were like, oh my gosh.

And so we were going to downsize because the house was huge and we really didn't need that much space up there because we're the only ones that went up there. And then we ended up just not following through, but I'm hoping I could take the ladies to our Palm Springs house one day or our Santa Barbara house. So crossing fingers. Yeah. We'd love to see either. Yeah, we would. Um, your kids are also so funny. Um, with the filming, I feel it's obviously like an unnatural thing to have like a full-blown camera crew in your bedroom, but I feel it's obviously like an unnatural thing to have like a full blown camera crew in your bedroom, but I feel like they kind of like it. Do they feel like celebrities?

Okay. My daughter, I think secretly likes it because she wants to be an actress. She wants to be on Broadway. Okay. She wants to be a singing actress and she likes it, but she also only can handle so many hours of the day. You know, after the first hour, she's like, I'm tired. I'm done with this. And so, you know, filming during the pandemic, we did a lot of

personal stories. So it was really hard for the kids because, you know, they had a lot more filming time and they got really tired. My son just does whatever my daughter does. Yeah. How is your husband with all of the filming and having more cameras? He is so funny. Oh my gosh. So I can't believe he was such a sport to film more this year since we're doing a lot more personal story being stuck inside. I was shocked that he was being open to it and he was okay. And I think it was because it was a summer and we really couldn't travel. And he was like, well, you know, work is slow because it's the summer anyway. So he was willing to jump in and do more. But yeah, he always thinks I'm ridiculous at the time, which is funny. You guys have a hysterical like banter, like the way you guys just go back

and forth. It's so fun to watch. Oh, thank you. I swear. And I find myself like loving, like getting his reactions on his face. I'm like, what's he going to think of this? What's he going to think of it? Do you guys watch together? Yes, we watch together and you know, he's always on his phone as he's watching with me, but he, he definitely gets excited when the episode comes through. And then sometimes he'll pull this whole thing where he's like, I'm not watching it. I'm busy today. I'm not watching it.

And then when he gets home, the first thing he goes, okay, let's watch it. Okay. No, of course. Men love reality TV, but they have to pretend like they don't. Yes. Yes. That's amazing. Well, you look gorgeous.

Also, final question I have for you. You were on Watch Robbins Live. Your confessional looks are so sickening, just like being elevated every season with the glam and the hair and the makeup and outfits. What is like your inspiration? What is your mood board? What's on your mood board for your housewives confessional looks? Oh my gosh. Well, I'm actually trying to pick my next confessional look right now. I've submitted three different fabulous dresses and I always love it when I have, you know, some pink on me no matter what always love it when I have, you know, some pink on me no matter what, because that's kind of, you know, my signature color. I'm always

fighting for pink in my confessional or anything I'm doing with the show. Of course I just, you know, I'm a pinkaholic, but I love sparkle. I love adding any type of sparkle to anything I can find anything that sparkles. I'm like, yes, it makes me happy. So pink and sparkles has to be in there somewhere. I have an amazing glam team and they help bounce ideas off of me as well. So I can't take full credit, but they are so talented. You guys saw my glam girls. Oh my God. They walk in at like 7.00 AM. Look like they came out of a photo shoot. I'm like, and they're, and they're fashionistas. And when I don't know what to wear, sometimes they go to my closet and pick up my outfit. I'm like, it's one-stop shop with them. Oh my God. That is so helpful. You have to re-wear the outfit that you wore and watch what happens live because it's such a shame that we didn't get to see it like in studio, in person,

full top and bottom. Cause that was just like the greatest look. Thank you. I submitted that actually for confessional and I would never submit something twice when I've already worn on camera, but I feel like no one got to see it, you know, because it was so pretty and it was like the bottom you couldn't see well. I would love to know what your philosophy is on outfit repeating. Okay. So I have like a rule. It has to be eight tiles. Like if you post like an outfit on Instagram, it has to be eight tiles below that to post again. Okay. I think that's doable. Yeah. And I wear things over all the time because I like to buy really

nice things sometimes. And I'm not going to buy a Fendi skirt and have it sit in my closet and never wear it again. I'm going to wear it again, but change the accessories, change the shirt, make it look like a different outfit, but you'll still be able to tell us the same skirt, but it has to be lower on the feet. That's a good philosophy. That's why I asked. I knew you would have a good answer. Yes, yes.

Well, you guys, make sure to catch Cameron on The Real Hot Size of Dallas every week on Bravo and check out her new podcast co-hosted with Carrie Brittingham. It's called Cameron and Carrie Do Dallas, right? Cam and Carrie Do Dallas. So cute. Congrats on all your success on an amazing season of Dallas. We cannot wait to see what happens next.

Thanks so much. I have so much to learn from you guys. So I'm so excited to be in the podcast world. Yes. Thank you. Guys, thank you so much for listening. We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks, guys.