The Toast - S4 Ep123: Seven Degrees of Southern Charm: Tuesday, July 13th, 2021

Episode Date: July 13, 2021

Music mogul Scooter Braun separates from wife Yael (Page Six) Southern Charm's Naomie Olindo and Metul Shah Split Weeks After Moving to NYC Together (PEOPLE) Jennifer Lopez to produce and star in Broadway musical project for TV (Page Six) Producers Sets To Axe Ramona Singer From 'Real Housewives of New York' After Disastrous Season (Radar Online) Kraft Macaroni & Cheese Ice Cream Now Exists - Here's How to Get Your Hands on a Pint, If You Dare (PEOPLE) The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. It's Tuesday. Oh, it is Tuesday. I thought you were going to keep going. Yes, I did end the song abruptly. And let us know more about Tuesday and how we can expect to be feeling. So it's Tuesday, for sure. I don't think anyone can argue that, except maybe if you're Australian. It's Tuesday. It's kind of gloomy in New York, and I'm not going to lie, I'm living for it. You know what I was thinking about on the way here?

What? You know how people have seasonal depression depression and it's like during the winter it's like really kind of depressing and then the sun comes out in the spring and you really do start to feel better I think I have anti-seasonal depression like I'm depressed in the summer when it's hot and I have chub rub and I'm forced to wear shorts and like shamed for wearing leggings and then like in the winter when we're all bundled up looking so chic drinking hot cocoa everyone's like depressed and I'm like the opposite you're blossoming yeah I think that's what I figured out I think that's possible you know like there are definitely plants that blossom in the winter and you're just one of them I'm a fern

you're a mcplant yes and you know what else I was thinking about you you're just full of thoughts so I don't always watch the show when we get home because I don't know I find myself to be like very self-critical but it's necessary because I watched yesterday's show and we just had like a lot to catch up on I swear to god I was not speaking English oh really talking so fast swallowing entire sentences like I don't know how anyone followed what I said yesterday and I was talking over you like a next level amount I'm sure you didn't even realize because you're so conditioned there was only one time that I realized I know during the Love Island recap. I'm not even I don't even remember. So I just I'm just gonna be like

super self-aware today. Okay cool well you know what that's this is probably like not the right time since you're like on this new journey like I have a gift for you and you would think like I should give you a gift when you've completed your journey. Is it a Gucci bag? No I'm giving you this gift at the outset just a little context it's not it had nothing to do with your birthday because I ordered it a while ago but it got here yesterday. You were always thinking of me. I am always thinking of you because so many things just remind me of you and so even though I didn't get you a cake for your birthday like I'm thinking of you year-round and you still didn't bring that puzzle home that I got you and I just want all the viewers at home to know when I went away in March I saw a gift that made me think of Claudia. It was

a puzzle that like had leaves on it and it like was meant to be peaceful like puzzles are supposed to be like it says the word peace it says like it's supposed to bring inner peace it's a puzzle that brings inner peace I'm like that's so Claudia so thoughtful got it for her it's still in the studio never took it home can I just tell you that like I've been really vocal like in the last year about puzzles and so I've literally gotten so many puzzles like it's like a like when people think of me now they buy me puzzles I got two from Ben's mom last night for my birthday and they're like sick Jonathan Adler ones I'm overwhelmed with puzzles I understand okay that's puzzling well this is not a puzzle okay I have a gift for you and is it edible no I just saw it it made me think

of you and I hope you enjoy it oh my god I'm I'm so nervous. Oh, I'll close my eyes. Of course, once again, I did not wrap it. Okay, it appears to be a blouse. It is a blouse. It's from... You're kidding. You guys. Please can I get my camera? Okay.

Maverick Athletics. Now, this is why it's so interesting ready of course maverick is a main character in my new york times best-selling book available now on all platforms the protagonist do you know whose company this is logan paul yeah and like our boyfriend over here logan paul so this is just a multi it's a layered gift it's a layered gift and you want it like i ordered it when he was fighting. Like that's what made me, because I saw, I saw the, he's Maverick Athletics. So I went to see like his merch to see if he had anything that had Maverick on it. So much stuff was sold out, but I managed to snag this shirt. Okay.

Thank you so much. This is such a, so meaningful, honestly. Like it has so many meanings. Yeah. Because even if Maverick wasn't a character in the book, I would have loved a piece of Logan Paul merch. Yeah. And this is just everything of the sort.

It really, really is. Thank you so much. You're so welcome. And I also think it's a cute shirt. A hundred percent. I'm going to wear it on the show tomorrow. Awesome. Maybe I'll pair it with some black leggings.

Just a thought. That's really crazy. Thank you so much. You're so welcome. When it came, I was just so excited. I've been waiting for it to come. What a bright Tuesday. I need to start, like, thinking of you for gifts, for gifts because it's like a fun thing to do on the show

it is a fun thing to do on the show and it's just like a nice thing to do for people but it's not like I'm like I want to get so and so a gift let me seek one out but like I just when I see something I'm like this reminds me of so and so well I have to get it buying gifts for people like for birthdays is kind of hard because you're like seeking for the moment if that makes sense whereas like if somebody just crosses your desk yeah okay I'm gonna start getting you stuff too okay cool cool that's exciting can I put it on the company sure but you did get me a cake for my birthday so like we're even and a Gucci bag a few years ago yeah a few years ago yeah um it wasn't that many years no like it was a long time we haven't said we haven't said Gucci bag Gucci bag Gucci bag Gucci bag Gucci bag it's because we don't have

a clock right we were talking about that last week you know what can you put on the Apple TV just like a clock app just so if it when it becomes 11 11 we can make a wish I don't even know what I would wish for what would what did we used to wish for besides a Gucci bag um well you know they were more so like internal wishes anything that I would wish for I don't think I would share because then it wouldn't come true. And it's like really fucking personal. It's so personal, even though I pretty much wish for the same thing, like with every gift.

And it's like a broad range. I think everyone does that. Yes, of course. Health, happiness, success for everyone you care about. And like inner peace. Yes. Yeah. I think a lot of people wish for that.

And for yourself. And world peace. And harsher punishment. What I always quote always for parole violators got it okay I always quote that line from Miss Congeniality and I can never remember what she actually says I'm pretty sure she said for harsher punishment for parole violators I think I don't think that's what she says actually I'm gonna look it up google it and that reminds me I don't know if I've ever shared this on the show do you know what my drag name is? No.

Disgracy Lou Freebush. That's great. Isn't it? Yeah. Do you have one? No. Where would I get one? You come up with it.

It's not like a store. Oh. Yes. That would be harsher punishment for parole violators, Stan. Very good. Thank you. Yeah. You need to think about that. Okay.

I will. Thank you for the challenge. Maybe some people have some good recommendations good uh oh I'm sure they will it has to be something with like red you know because your hair is red yeah sure we'll see I'll think about it you guys think about it too cool um except I was told by some members of the gay community that the Miss Congeniality reference is a very like hetero reference which I thought it was like totally a popular movie in the gay community, but I guess it's not.

Interesting. Yeah. So it's not like a totally valid drag name is what I've heard. Okay. From Brian. So maybe you need to rethink yours as well. Yeah.

But I'm like so proud of the creativity that like I came up with, you know? Yeah. That I'm not willing to let it go. Huh. I know. It's good. It's a pickle.

You know, just, you know, have confidence in your choices. I'm, it's so hard when you make the worst choices most of's a pickle you know just you know have confidence in your choices I'm it's so hard when you make the worst choices most of the time you know yeah okay how was your day yesterday it was really good we were booked and busy we got our patreon up the birthday vlog on patreon.com slash morning toast it gave me anxiety re-watching it because I had such a negative experience you'll see why in the vlog I had such a negative experience leading up to the party for a multitude of reasons that I believe to be extremely valid and that's not only because like you know I was in my head having anxiety now days later I was valid in my concerns do you agree um I do agree and watching

your your footage I found to be really interesting and also while I posted this on my story yesterday while I was uploading the vlog I was like we did a vlog for your birthday three years ago I'd love to see like how the vlog style has changed since like what we it was so like really so different so different first of all we were so different like the way of course the way I look was atrocious the way we look of course but also how we talk I feel like every year I get older my voice gets less and less in New York like I've always felt that way when I watch my bat mitzvah video like it's so crazy and then when I watch videos from a few years ago I do sound more like nasal Long Island vibe yeah you know so but not less New York like less Long Island there's a difference that's true yeah there's a big difference yeah and I'm sure people

listening who don't live in New York are like what the fuck are you talking about but it used to be worse I'm telling you yeah like New York is like you know I walk and I talk in the streets of New York and I drink lots of water and coffee Long Island we don't even talk like that no but like sometimes we don't even talk like that Martin Lauren's daughter was Martin Lauren's daughter and then Long Island would be I walk and I talk in the streets of New York and I drink lots of water and coffee lots of of water. It's a subtle difference. Yeah. No, it is different though. But also our vlog style was so kind of amateur because we were so new to the vlogging space.

And I remember people giving us really good feedback. Like you guys just like, you know, filming yourself singing is what we see on Snapchat. So like evolve on the vlog. And it was good advice. We don't really do that anymore. And we're obviously much better vloggers now. But it was, I watched it because you told me to watch it and it was cringy. But it was good advice. We don't really do that anymore. And we're obviously much better vloggers now, but it was, I watched it because you told me to watch it and it was cringy, but it was joyful.

And also what's interesting is like, we don't really sing on Snapchat anymore. So it's like, we could go back to filming like that. Times are changing because like, we don't do that stuff anymore. So it was really like cute to see just everyone. We all like really look so different and are so different.

We were just like so much younger. I mean, we were three years younger but like you can really tell also what I thought was cool from the video and what I took away from it is like pretty much everyone at that party I would still invite to my party today and did invite to my birthday party so it's like I like that I literally have the same group of friends like years well it's only three years but three years but still some people like you, every year it's new people at their party. Yeah. No, so it was cool. So if you are a Patreon member, check out the vlog that we posted yesterday.

And then you can also just search birthday in the tab and Claudia's old birthday vlog will come up. And like hundreds of other sickening videos. Sickening. So my day was good. It was busy. Got so much content out. Yesterday's episode was so long.

So long. I guess we just had a lot to catch up on. We did. And we still didn't even get to cover all the news that had happened over the weekend. It has spilled into today's episode. It has. I'm going to just apologize for that. Like, right when we wrapped the show, I was like, fuck, we forgot to talk about Scooter Braun.

I don't know how I, like, it wasn't top of my news feed, but it wasn't. So we're talking about it today. But you know what? I'm actually grateful that we're talking about it today because last night I rewatched Lily Pond Studios, Disney Plus Taylor Swift Folklore and a lot of folklore like is about Scooter Braun and I actually feel like I have refreshed my memory on on a lot of what went on during that time. Okay. Also I put this on my Instagram story but when I was searching for Taylor Swift in Disney Plus the Jonas Brothers Experience came

up which is a concert DVD slash like montage documentary of their first like big tour and demi lovato did a cameo and so did taylor swift she's saying should have said no i think that was like when her and joe were dating and i watched it it was so cute and then i was just like scrolling through it to see if there was anything else interesting and scott borchetta was in it isn't that weird because of taylor no he was with the brothers like it had nothing to do with taylor this was like 30 minutes before in the movie. Interesting. Yeah, maybe he was like their manager or maybe they were at Big Machine like in the beginning.

I don't know. Or maybe he was like scouting them. Yeah, it was really interesting. Like a big wig came to the show. And I was like, who is that curly haired freak? And it was Scott Borchetta. Crazy. Crazy times.

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Go back. Interesting factoid. Mining heiress. Go back. Mining heiress. So an heiress of a mining empire. Yeah. Well, they didn't say empire.

Could be, you know, a small business miner. They don't just call people heiresses. I agree. I found that to be an interesting factoid as well. And I know that I share this interesting factoid all the time, but you know whenever I hear the word heiress, what do I think of? Serena Williams perfume commercials from like 15 years ago.

Her name backwards is Ineris. And so she had a perfume called Ineris, and that's always what I think about. Sorry. Okay, thank you. Germane to the subject. Completely. But insiders tell Page Six that in spite of persistent rumors

doing the rounds in the music industry, there are no plans for them currently to divorce they're friends and they're still living together at the moment but they are separated question mark oh that was the initial report that came out and also like based on their instagrams i think a lot of people are confused because they're very much posting as a happy family um so it's quite unclear well there's a few things at play here one um I did read somewhere that there are some like lawsuits going on with Scooter and like perhaps this might be like a protective measure I don't know that's what one theory I don't know if I believe that they would have to divorce yes and I don't know if I believe that I don't that doesn't add up to me. Now everyone of course when you think of Scooter Braun who do you think of? I think of Justin Bieber. Okay most

recently most people think of Taylor Swift. Yes. And I know a lot of the Swifties are like quaking in their boots you know the master of spin has a couple side flings good wives always know all of that but I don't know and I'm so firmly team Taylor of course but I just feel weird about like celebrating like let's say this is a divorce. Like if you have kids, like we're all like jumping for joy because like a family's being broken apart. I don't like that. Are people jumping for joy?

The Swifties are because it's like, you know, Kim and Kanye first and then Scooter and Yael, like who's next? And I support Taylor wholeheartedly, 100%. I don't like that kind of dialogue. Understood. Also, I hate to break it to everyone but at the end of the day like this has nothing to do with Taylor Swift no 100% so I agree I find this to be like a sad story I think if we can remove Taylor Swift from the equation because she really has nothing to do with nothing their relationship or them getting

divorced or living together and separating um I feel like a lot of people looked at Scooter and Yael as like couple goals for a very long time because they've been together for a while and like he has so much success and like you know those things change people yeah up until now it hadn't changed their relationship so I I find this to be a sad story plus they have three kids but I also feel like based on you know this living together thing maybe they just like can no longer stand each other are living in separate wings, but they're going to live together for their family. Yeah. I mean, I was shocked at the news.

Like I never. I was shocked. Yeah. Like super surprised. Yeah. You know what else? This is really not a lot to do with these people, but it made me think of Love Island

because I discovered another pet peeve of mine. What? You know how I said, like I hate when they call like them the boys on Love Island. I hate on like shows or in general when call, like, them the boys on Love Island? I hate on, like, shows or in general when people refer to themselves as a power couple.

Same. Who does that? In Love Island, they did. No, but did they do it here? No, no, no. I was just saying because I said the word couple goals.

Got it, got it. But I just, like, that's just a pet peeve of mine. No, it's really loser when people do it, but me and Ben are a power couple. I'm kidding.

No, it's literally... it's cringy as hell so cringy simmer down sir simmer down simmer simmer the fuck down um so this was just genuinely shocking news but also the reason why I brought up watching Lily Pond Studios is because on the e-news post where they were like put a picture of Scooter and Yael was like you know whatever all the comments were the master of spin has a couple side flings, good wise always know, which is the line from Mad Woman. It's from The Bridge, and a lot of people think it has to do with Taylor.

And I was watching Lily Pond Studios, and before she performs every song, she sits down with either Aaron Dessner or Jack Antonoff and talks about the song, the meaning behind it, whether it's a story from her personal life, or like she watched a movie and wrote a song about it. And honestly, I hear the lyrics, and I understand why people think it's about Scooter but the way she explained it was just more about like the perception of female rage and was like much deeper than like

a surface level thing that happened to her so honestly I don't know if I believe that that particular line or song is about them just stating like irrelevant to this but just stating my opinion I agree and I also think I don't I wouldn't call Scooter Braun the master of spin from Taylor Swift's perspective like no there's a lot of bad blood between them but it's not because he spinned something in a way and was masterful about it if anything he's having a really hard time spinning it back right like he came out as a loser he's not the master of spin. I agree. He didn't spin something in one way. I would say that guy Harvey from TMZ

could be considered the master of spin. Yes, I would agree with that. Also... So I just want to put it out there. I don't think that Mad Woman is about... I don't think so either. Scooter and Al. I don't think so either,

but there are rumors going around. Like, I think there was, like, du mois blinds that, like, Scooter or Sheetan... Well, there were all those messages... Sheetan and Scooter. ...about him and Erika Jayne. Remember? Okay.

She debunked it. I really feel like that's also irrelevant to this story. It is, but I just want to say, cute couple. No, it doesn't work for me. No, I agree. I agree. It doesn't work for me at all. No.

So I just like, I want to say message to our Swifties. I know we don't like Scooter, but like, I don't really, I really feel weird. Maybe it's just because I'm a child of divorce. I don't like the weird like parading and celebrating of a family. I'll tell you what it is. Breaking down. I'll tell you what it is. What's going on between Scooter and Taylor is business.

Yes, exactly. And this is Scooter's personal life. Yeah. And I don't think that they should be. Equated. Equated and used against one another. A hundred percent. If Scooter's business were to suffer like then you could be

like that's why you got you do a dirty business you got dirty business right but like when it has to do with his personal life I think it's irrelevant and I think it's just like immature to like make fun of it so yeah I won't I'm hoping they can work it out me as well and by the way one more thing we what we know about Taylor she is a hopeless romantic. Like even with people she hates I don't think she would be wishing divorce upon people. You know? I don't. But again It has nothing to do with Taylor. It has nothing to do with Taylor even if she was wishing

it. Like that's not how divorce works. It's just very hard when you're like a really invested Swifty to speak on Scooter Braun without literally mentioning her name in every sentence. Okay. And that's something that is my personal cross to Barry. And I to Bear. To Bear. And that's something, that is my personal cross to Barry. And I, wait,

to Bear. To Bear. And I think you, you did your best. And I think it was like every other sentence. Do you think my best was good enough? It always is good enough. That's all we ask for here.

Nothing like a mad woman. What a shame she went mad. Okay, you guys, this next story is really shocking news. Perhaps more shocking than Scooter and the Isle. Agreed. I'm not even going to lie. Agreed. Because you this next story is really shocking news. Perhaps more shocking than Scooter and the Isle. I'm not even gonna lie. Agreed. Because you know what? Matool was stable. He was good. He was honorable. Until he wasn't. Until he wasn't. Southern Charms, Naomi Olindo and Matool

Shaw split weeks after moving to New York City together. So I'm sure a lot of you saw this like tweet going around yesterday that like Naomi and Matool had split. And at first I was like, no, they didn't. Like they couldn't have. It was just a tweet and I was like there's no fucking way just moved to New York like makes no goddamn sense take it away um but then it kept surfacing that same tweet and Naomi did unfollow the tool on Instagram and deleted all of her pictures with him except for ones where there were other people in it and now people confirms that they have split the split has come just weeks after the couple moved to New York City together quote Naomi and Mithul are no longer together her agent said she's back in Charleston and plans to stay there for the time being but for those who don't know Naomi was on

Southern Charm a few years ago she dated Craig Conover she was like responsible for all those iconic lines about his sewing career you sit home when you sew yeah you sit home and you sell and then they broke up because Craig was you know like uh he wasn't bailing up to the bar he wasn't bailing up to the bar and she met Matool and she was on the show for like one season with Matool but he's like a really serious guy he was he's a doctor he's getting his residency and they just had this like really serious life and she chose him like she left the show to be with him have a serious life and then they just moved to New York and literally

the day they moved like this tweet was going around yeah like a week or two after they moved so she was in Charleston this past weekend I think for you know her own reasons I think she had like a friend same I don't think it had to do with this no and then I think she discovered something that has led her to break up with him because she posted an instagram story addressing what's going on okay she posted this last night and before i think it was all conjecture but she posted a picture of her looking sad with her cat she said nothing will be worse than losing my dad but this is a close second betrayal is never easy for anyone so he betrayed her and i'm just so sorry to anyone else that has stumbled across those terrible messages

what are the terrible messages yeah i'm absolutely positive I regret posting this tomorrow but so many of you have reached out saying you're feeling a similar pain I'm so so sorry yeah so it's obvious she stumbled upon like a computer or a phone with like dirty messages um it's been on Dumois before and I think Dumois resurfaced some of the blinds she got um because it's now relevant that like he was talking to an ex for a long time seeing the ex going on dates making out in public so that's atrocious like that's such a betrayal and Naomi's such a nice cool girl like I live for her so I'm like mad I'm obviously mad that he cheated on her because she's a queen and nobody deserves to be cheated on but I'm also mad that like she really put so much of

herself into the relationship like she gave up her job like her life because he didn't like being on the show and things that made her happy for him and that made her happy and then he just goes and disrespects her like that and they move to New York I'm pretty sure for him for his job yes disgusting disgusting I'm so upset and I just never expected that from a tool like I actually met Mitchell he was a lovely man and I'm like this is so great like it was so endgame for Naomi like I never even thought about them as being anything other than like mom and dad riding off into the sunset yeah and now we're just like taking steps away from the sunset and it's shocking we're very far from the sunset I'm just thinking further of Naomi I can't imagine. I just can't. Like her whole world.

Shook the fuck up. Shook the fuck up. I'm very sad for her. She's such a night. And like now I'm of course like thinking let's get back on Southern Charm. Of course. Yeah. Because she was great on the show.

She was great on the show. And she has her business Shop La Bay that would be great for the show also. Yeah. With like interesting girls who work for her. No. And also like that would be great press like for her business. Yeah. And I think it's time to get back for the show also. Yeah, with like interesting girls who work for her. No, and also like that would be great press like for her business. And I think it's time to get back on the show. I mean, maybe like not right this second,

but when she's- But maybe right this second. But when she's ready. You know, I was thinking Southern Charm is always in the news. Like the show is so good for a million reasons, but also because even when they're not on, like there's so much drama.

Like A-Rod, Madison, Craig and Paige are dating. They are. They were spotted. Someone took a picture of them on the street, like, hugging, embracing, sitting on their laps.

Like, there's something there. Austin is always, you know, like, starting shit. Kristen. Kristen. Like, they are such a... Thomas. Right.

They are star-studded cast. Like, these people know how to be famous and how to make a tv show and be interesting like it's really admirable i commend them yeah very true very true yeah always look forward to it coming back you smell that is it smelling good i think it's you you smell amazing what perfume are you. What perfume are you wearing? Scentbird.

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Sign on. Smell amazing. Thank you for that, Claudia. Thank you so much. Next up, Jennifer Lopez is going to Broadway. She will produce and star in a Broadway musical project for TV. J-Lo has reportedly partnered. A Broadway musical project for TV. J-Lo has reportedly partnered... A Broadway musical project for TV?

Which is it? All of them. J-Lo has reportedly partnered with Oracle Scion and Hollywood producer David Ellison's production outfit Skydance to develop musical projects for TV and film. The musicals will be based on the Concord Theatricals Library, which includes the Rodgers and Hammerstein catalog. Rodgers and Hammerstein's famed musicals include Carousel,

South Pacific, The King and I, The Sound of Music, Cinderella, and Oklahoma. Where the me, sorry. I don't know. So Oklahoma, where the, I forget how it goes, but because I sing it when I'm around Michaela. Miscorella, the me skirs goes to play that's why i saw oklahoma and no disrespect to theater because i really do respect the art

of theater but it was the most atrocious atrocious show i've ever seen and you know what they did worse than the curious incident of the dog in the night how how could it be worse ready I'm gonna tell you exactly how so there's a scene spoiler alert I don't know someone gets shot in the show I don't know who I don't remember and what they do is they make it like an immersive theater experience where literally the entire theater becomes pitch black and if you don't know what is going on like if you've never seen the play it's very alarming becomes pitch black and there's silence silence silence gunshot the most real sounding gunshot i've ever heard in my life so i didn't know someone gets shot i'm in a dark theater in this climate that's horrible it was i literally like was in tears it was so traumatizing i left

immediately afterwards i was so shook up i'm like are you fucking it was so traumatizing i left immediately afterwards i was so shook up i'm like are you fucking kidding me they don't give you any warning like it was horrible horrible i'm sorry so sorry i digress i just it was so bad like oh my god and like it's it's like this immersive experience so like if you're sitting in the front row which i was you're sitting at like a big dinner table and there's like chili and cornbread and you can't even eat it like it was it was so weird cornbread yeah it was so weird yeah I don't know I really didn't understand the whole production like went over my head like I was I had no idea what was going on that's insane I just thought Oklahoma was like 42nd street like not at all but of the midwest 42nd street is everything hear the sounds of marching

of marching feet get some tempo on the avenue i'm taking you to 42nd street that's like my broadway voice you know i mean everyone has you have one of course you're like quaking do it here well no because you made fun of me no i, I didn't. You were just off tempo. You were off tempo. Ready? Let's do it again. Hear the sounds of marching feet. You're wrong. No.

You're wrong. We'll have to check it out. Yeah, we'll check it out. Should I pull it up? We'll check it out. Should I pull it up? They're not going to be able to. Okay, yeah, sure.

You have to play it though. What's the song called? 42nd Street. Okay. YouTube. 42nd Street. youtube 42nd street opening number right yeah i think so okay can't imagine what the opening number isn't hold on i just don't want to put it i don't want to get the copyright it's a oh god this is like community theater actually you can put it on spotify okay i'm here i'm here

it's a fabulous song i'm taking you to hold on oh this is not community theater this is like sensational okay i have no idea okay we'll figure it out we'll figure it out later we can fight about it later let's the show must go I can be right later okay yes it's never too late to be right same so JLo's coming to Broadway um and also perhaps on TV that just makes me feel like it'll be something that it's also like NBC live but not NBC yeah I'm first of all very confused as to what this actually is i don't know how you make a broadway musical for tv like is it on broadway or is it on tv it could be both yeah and i do find this really interesting if she's developing that's one thing but if she's starring because there have been rumors for a really long time that like j-lo cannot sing like

she doesn't sing live she's had someone else singing her vocals her entire career she's a great performer great dancer um but she's not like a vocalist and vocalists go to Broadway so this might be debunking that entire theory or she's just more behind the scenes but it said she's gonna star she's gonna star in at least one of the projects and also I used to really believe that theory me too um and then I saw her perform Super Bowl soup no but Super Bowl I think you actually do lip sync even if you're a great talent. Or you can get away with it. No, we saw her perform at Robin Hood. Oh, we did?

No, I was not there. And I just sort of was like, you know what? I'm going to let sleeping dogs lie. I'm just going to believe J-Lo. That she's actually singing. That she's actually singing. But I also think that maybe throughout her career, maybe there's other voices that are mixed in with hers.

But I think she can carry a tune. Me I think she could do that I think she can do this well I very much look forward to seeing the performances and finally you know judging it for myself and letting this conspiracy theory either be validated or completely debunked but maybe that's why it's going to be on tv and not right that's what I'm saying interesting yeah so I'm just curious I would like some more information on what these projects actually are going to be and what J-Lo's involvement is going to be. Yeah, I'm sure that, you know, things will become more clear. But I just feel like everyone's just trying to switch things up, you know?

Literally. And I feel like everyone just throws J-Lo at every problem. And you know what? They're not wrong. No, they're not. She does solve most problems. She does. She's an icon.

She's a performer. Her hair, like, I think that her Super Bowl performance was one of the best in years like she's an icon yeah so I love that she's just being thrown at different industries she has a makeup thing now a hair thing with A-Rod like I'm into it I'm into it too are you ready for our next story it's a little Real Housewives casting news conjecture conjecture. Conjecture. Because it's not being widely reported, but it's all over Instagram. Producers are set to axe Ramona Singer from Real Housewives of New York

after disastrous season, says Radar Online. A source tells Radar that the only original cast member who has never left from day one is Ramona Singer, but now her time is up. Ramona will not be invited back to the next season of the show which is currently not in production for a couple of reasons one she is too expensive she's the only lady that has been on the show from day one and her salary reflects it um plus the basic premise of the show doesn't work anymore a bunch of older white women behaving badly was fun a decade ago but not today the world has changed and if the show wants to

survive another decade it must change too and that starts with the cast i want to say two things one it must literally eat luann up inside that like ramona's referred to as the only og because one season like 10 years ago luann got demoted to friend of and she gave it her all and she got her job back like it must just kill her she's not even regarded as an og even though in my mind she is like i she was on the show that one season and she did make a mark. Even when she was. So I just want to say. Yeah.

I agree with that. Devastating. Also I just want to say. As I was reading this quote. Like. Real Houses of New York and Page Six are like. Intertwined. Intertwined. If there was a source that was going to give casting.

A legit source that was going to give casting news. To a publication. They would have gone to Page Six. Agreed. That makes me think that the story is not true. Because the only somewhat legitimate outlet that wrote this up is Radar Online. And sometimes they get it right with Housewives stuff.

Up until now, it's just a rumor. But I think it's an interesting thing to talk about. Yeah. That, first of all, I don't know if I think the answer to the Roni problem is Ramona, but I do agree. They had an all-time low rating, 700,000 viewers or 760,000 last week. And Ramona must cost them over a million a season. So if the show's not bringing that aspect of it, I actually do understand. Financially, the show doesn't make money. You get rid of the most

expensive asset. I don't know if Ramona is the problem. I don't think it's just like a one person thing. And every time I think of like who should be fired, I'm like, well, like Leah, but actually she's kind of funny and she could be the future of the show. I think Ebony should stay. I can argue that every single one of them. Here's the thing. I think individually I could, I would want them all to stay together. They don't work. I also think that if producers are looking at this season and looking at the ratings and taking away that it's Ramona that needs to go, I don't think that's true either. And I also think that like at the end of the day, I think they have to look back on what happened

at OC and regret firing Vicky. Oh, you think? I do because the show only got worse and now it's so untethered and like every season it's like wipe the slate clean there's no like anchor and I think that Vicky and I was one of the people who was like it's time for Vicky to go because she approached the show as this is my show and there's no space for other people and I do think that that's when it's your time to go but look at Teresa she stays regardless also Ramona for someone who's an actual OG she doesn't really have that attitude she definitely has like a superiority superiority towards like new girls in general but she doesn't come on reunions and act like it's her show and she doesn't need to answer questions agreed I think that I think the Vicky Gumbelson remark is interesting I think

their mistake wasn't necessarily firing Vicky it was firing Vicky and doing nothing else so they're just going to cut Ramona and think that the rest of the women are going to be able to take the show back to over a million ratings I don't think that's the case. Like, I think that if Ramona goes, maybe it's time to you clean house with all the older women. No. Yeah. And also when it comes to bringing like five new people, the women who behave the worst,

honestly, it's Sonia. Like Ramona weird, like gets drunk on the show and doesn't really go off the rails or like act in a way that's so unhinged. Yeah. But Sonia does like the Morgan letters the you know just this week in North Fork like that's and that's like behavior

that's not interesting to watch because it's insane it's Dorinda like behavior and that's why Dorinda was like yes and I don't think and so I agree with that but I don't think that Ramona is the culprit of that yeah I don't know what maybe maybe the feeling or if these rumors are true like maybe they're thinking like it's just time like everything does come to an end a lot of OGs are being you know Nini left and then Vicky was asked to leave like maybe that's the thinking I just don't understand I'm curious like if the plan is to get rid of Ramona what else are we doing because I don't think that's going to solve all these problems and I also think there's still so many spaces open on the show there's only five main characters right now they could bring in

three new people before they have to get rid of someone yeah but if the show is not having ratings and they're like not making as much money as they once were like Ramona is expensive they could offer her less money do you think she would take it that's up to her yeah that's interesting yeah like I just I think this is a little premature um but I also and it's also not valid like it's also not verified but I when I read it I was like that's not gonna necessarily make the show better no it's not it's just it's a it's in a it's the franchise is in a weird space and it's in a similar place to OC and if OC had correctly fixed the franchise after firing Vicky there would be like some sort of precedent to follow but there's not what what

would you have wanted them to see what would you have now in hindsight what should they have done differently with Vicky yeah like they fired Vicky then you said they did nothing else what should they have done then bring on more people bring something like they just cut Vicky and expected the rest of the group to be enough when the rest of the group is nothing yeah like that's what I'm saying if they just cut Ramona and think that the show's going to become better with just those four women or maybe one extra that's not going to do it it didn't do it on OC yeah I think they should bring in three new people now on OC I've heard there's like two or three new girls coming in yeah it should have been last season but there was COVID of course if they're going to cut Ramona they also have a

million other things they need to do because Ramona's not like the one problem with the show no not at all I and I don't really know what the problem is but I do think it's a it's a not large enough cast yes a hundred percent I don't know what the problem is either yeah we shall see but it once was like one of the best franchises and it has a legacy and it's just like not Ramona is part of that legacy though so I don't know how you see there was a time in my journey on the Real Housewives where I needed Ramona gone. Like me. Needed.

Me too. And then over the last couple of years, I've just sort of started to appreciate her lunacy as genuine entertainment. And so like sometimes I take Housewives really seriously. And like Ramona used to really, really bother me. I just thought she was like such a two-faced, like shit talking. But then you come to appreciate like that's what this show is all about. Oh my god it's 11 12. Our first day with a clock and we missed 11 11. Not meant to be. Not meant to be. Not meant to be. So I don't know.

I'm torn like because I know what it's like to want Ramona gone. I felt that way for a very long time. But now I'm just kind of like there's been such a lack in drama over these last few years and she's always just been like this great like delusional character who we love. Yeah I agree. There was a time where I would have been cool with this. And now I'm just like, I just don't think that's the answer. I don't think it's the answer either. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Is it the final story?

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Wow. Kraft macaroni and cheese ice cream now exists. Here's how to get your hands on a pint if you dare. Look at it. Stare it in the face. Oh, Van Leeuwen. Kraft partnered with New York City-based ice cream parlor Van Leeuwen to release the limited edition flavor of mac and cheese flavored ice cream.

And yes, it's made using actual powdered cheese from their macaroni boxes quote we know twisted we know that there is nothing more refreshing on a hot summer day than ice cream this has to be a prank right that is why we wanted to combine two of the most iconic comfort foods to create an ice cream with the unforgettable flavor of Kraft macaroni and cheese we all grew up with. This is like a PR stunt. Says Emily Violet, Senior Associate Brand Manager for Kraft. As big fans of Van Leeuwen, we knew they'd be the perfect partner to create the ice cream with us. Good question. I actually have heard. No, I don't know if Van Leeuwen's vegan.

Mac and cheese lovers who are brave enough to try the frozen treat can score a pint on July 14th, beginning at 11 a.m. I know Claudia will be first in line on the company's website, but be prepared to shell out some dough as one pint costs a whopping $12. However, if you're in New York City like Claudia, you can try the ice cream for free while supplies last at an ice cream truck stationed in Union Square from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. So I have something controversial to say outside of this because I'm pretty sure this is a prank, right? No, I don't think it's a prank. It's going down tomorrow at 11 a.m. Should we go live down at the ice cream truck? I honestly I'll vomit. You guys will post these pictures. They're

wrong. These pictures are wrong of this ice cream. So I'm an ice cream lover, file, kind of sore, some would say. And I have something really like controversial to say. You don't like Van Leeuwen's. Yeah. There's like a couple ice cream places in the city, mostly downtown. Like there's lines around the corner. Uh-huh.

When there's like a perfectly good tasty delight like right across the street or like a 16 handles. Or a Haagen-Dazs or a Cold Stone cold stone yeah like i'm not into this whole like reinventing fancy expensive ice cream when it's literally all just the same you know and so like i just if i see this like a line of people waiting outside van lewin there's like a tasty across the street with not one person in it like i'm going to the tasty you know of course i i don't recall ever specifically trying van leuwen but I know that I feel like I tried it once and I was like this is what everyone is raving about yeah and I just

feel like it's this kind of like I don't know if this is the right word like this gentrification of the ice cream experience like making it more expensive more fancy when it's like ice cream experiences should be like like you were a kid you know wearing flip-flops and it's the cone is melting in your hand like it's not that serious you know, wearing flip-flops and it's, the cone is melting in your hand. Like it's not that serious. You know, it's not like this artisanal craft, like it's ice cream. Yeah. So these like fancy places with their fancy foreign names, like Red Mango, you know, that's where I'm at. You can find me at the local 16 handles. Yeah. I mean, I'm really into Cold Stone Creamery. I feel like it's a lost art. A hundred percent.

Carvel? Stunning. Stunning. Like I'm just into the, like, you know, like old school, like Americana, local ice cream shop. Yeah. Kilwins. Yeah. So good.

I don't know, I'm into these fancy like craft. I feel like Big Gay Ice Cream is really good though. So good. Because it's just ice cream. Big Gay Ice Cream, I don't loop in with those fancy. No, me neither. But like Milk Bar too. They make it like milk yeah it's just like ice cream did not need to be reinvented no and there doesn't need to be this like upper echelon of like fancy creameries you know they're just an ice cream shop you know yeah it's like a malt shop i want to go to pops

yeah but what about pink berry see that's interesting i think pink berry is kind of the cornerstone of these like two because now pink berry is like this disgusting yeah chain and like you literally it's like it's like a starbucks like it's disgusting it's like smelly and dirty and no one's ever in there but at one point they like kind of started they started this trend like elite ice cream trend so they kind of became their own like their own demise yeah because all these other fancy better chains started popping up and they just became like a shitty local regional chain yeah but sometimes it is good still it's not it is but you would never have liked it because it's tart well not anymore when it first came out

i was like everyone is quaking over this tart it literally is greek yogurt it was disgusting i tried it once i'm like this is not ice cream this is a salad like it was disgusting then they they grew because they have chains everywhere and then they had like chocolate peanut butter vanilla instead of plain tart and it's just like subpar ice cream and you get so little toppings it's like you think you're getting a lot because you get to choose three you get a plastic spoonful of sprinkles yeah you know what the best is that most people won't even know what i'm talking about because it was a very small chain in the city i think they maybe had two locations i don't even know if you can call that a chain off the wall yeah you remember yeah that was like 16 handles where there's like 16 handles and you just load

up 16 handles has a quality control problem there's like 16 Handles and you just load up. 16 Handles has a quality control problem because they blew up really fast. And now every single one is like a dump. Yeah. There's raspberries on the floor, kids running around. It's just a mess. The boys in Barry's seat is like boys in Barry's. Yeah. The Shnaz Barry's seat is like Shnaz Barry's.

But they're good. Yeah, that is a good premise, but not in a COVID world. You know what's an underrated franchise? I really hope you know what I'm about to say. Come on. Read my mind. Is it New York? It's like an old school franchise.

Not Haagen-Dazs? No. Baskin Robbins? No, it's not like a brand name like that. It might be like a regional thing. How regional are we talking? Give me like a locale. Just give it to me.

Okay. We have been to one in Long Island and also up by camp. Come on. I'm trying to think. I'll give you a clue. Ready? T-C-B-Y. Yeah.

The country's best yogurt. Like, very underrated. There's so many great places. I think they shot themselves in the foot when they named themselves the country's best yogurt. Because they're not. And it's also weird. Like, where do you want to go? T-C-B-Y. Like, it's not really like a. I think they shot themselves in the foot when they named themselves the country's best yogurt. Because they're not. And it's also weird. Like, where do you want to go?

TCBY. Like, it's not really like a. It doesn't roll a lot of the time. Not at all. But it's pretty bomb. It is. There's so many great options, really. And this definitely makes me want a Froyo.

Yeah. I just wanted to put it out there. My thoughts on the upper echelon of ice cream creameries. Thank you for your thoughts. And so what are your thoughts on just Kraft Mac and Cheese? Which is one of your favorite food groups.'s disgusting flavored ice cream i feel like maybe there are people who will like this are pregnant and like having weird pregnancy cravings because i can see someone being like mac and cheese and ice cream you know i don't think so no i'm on

tiktoks where people are eating like trying out the most popular pregnancy cravings and what are they like bread and ice cream pickles and peanut butter like so it's these opposite things okay bread and ice cream isn't that crazy but like ice cream sandwich literally with bread that's freaky yeah but it's like these opposite things pickle and so i feel like this is literally the epitome of a craving mac and cheese uh actually they're both like dairy no it's weird cheese and milk i want mac and cheese. Actually, they're both like dairy. No, it's weird. Cheese and milk. I want mac and cheese for dinner. Ice cream for dessert. It's not like, you know, you got to put it all in a blender. Yeah. Now we're in a blender. So those are the fast-paced stories. And I definitely feel

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