The Toast - S4 Ep131: Switched: Friday, July 23rd, 2021

Episode Date: July 23, 2021

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Friday. We won't sing together on this show. One, because we just did an episode of podcast reviews, so we're a little butthurt about the singing complaints. And two, we're still remote, so we wouldn't be able to sync up. Yeah, I guess we don't have to sing together. It's Friday, Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Hope everyone is acknowledging the space that they're currently in and really just relishing in the summer weekend we have ahead of us whatever your plans are I hope you are looking forward at these next few alarm free living days with joy hope and happiness and

most importantly inner peace oh so beautiful all of those things sound so so lovely I found so many of those moments because I am on vacation and I'm just having such a wonderful time um if you guys are so happy if you guys listen to the patreon like you know what's new with me and if you haven't then you should go and listen because the episode we recorded yesterday is hysterical and then also like you could catch up with me what's new with me what's new with brew um but Claude what's new with you we haven't facetTimed since we podcasted. So like what's the latest? You know what?

I'm just, I'm feeling, I'm feeling a lot because as we spoke about on the Patreon yesterday or two days ago, I feel really happy with how this week went. Like I feel very accomplished. I think it was a great week for the toast. Great week for everyone involved. I am so exhausted from just like doing it by myself. And I also, I have like a crazy weekend planned. I just felt like I deserved like a bender.

So on Monday, you're going to show up like refreshed from your weekend and your week of vacation. And I'm going to show up actually looking like Remy, the ratatouille, the rat of all my dreams oh so you're gonna show up being a five-star chef can't wait can't fucking wait what are you gonna make for me chef I'm gonna make you ratatouille yum I made ratatouille in a cooking class once and I just did not get the hype and you also for there to be a whole movie about Ratatouille when it's just like a random fucking meal choice. I don't get it. Yeah, I've never had it.

I do know you made it in your cooking class. And I do believe you also made it for us like once at Shabbat right after the cooking class. So, you know what? Your memory is so on point. And I'll tell you what did happen. So you've never said that to me. We made Ratatouille in the cooking class. It had a lot of steps. The first step was to like roast these vegetables and then you put the vegetables in the tomato sauce and then in the soup. Um,

but I thought the roasted vegetables themselves tasted so delicious. So that's what I mean for the family. Just the first step, just the first step of the ratatouille. So what is a ratatouille? It's a soup. It's like a tomato-based liquidy dish, yeah. That's not what you made. You made grilled vegetables. No, that's what I'm saying. I did step one, grill the vegetables. Oh, interesting.

Okay. And then you like put those veggies into the touille. Got it. So it's the touille that makes it liquidy. I just made rat. That's so funny. Well, I don't remember it. You'll have to make it for us again.

Oh, I would love to, Claudia. You know I would. So now that we're end of our friends and family week at the toast, I would love to hear your thoughts like on some of the co-hosts. I know you don't listen to like every minute of every episode

and that's fine because you're on vacation. But I would just love to hear some of your thoughts. So I'm going to share my thoughts and just I want to let you know I only watched still Amanda's episode because I was still home and I'm going to download the other episodes for my flight home I feel like the three episodes my flight will be over in a flash because they're all like about an hour so that's my big plan my thoughts for that of course like I have FOMO you know and it's like it's so nice to see the show thriving and there's so much buzz and tyler c and theo are like falling in love and theo is pregnant um but i just felt like you know i would love to have been a fly on the wall and also like what's

going on in the world i'm so unplugged like i have a question for you we've never spoken about this but when you're hanging out with other people and they like ask you to explain something all the time pop culture to them like doesn't it annoy i'm literally like i'm off the clock i'm literally like sorry gotta go run into traffic it's it's my least favorite thing only because i actually in my free time love to talk about this stuff with someone like you who's equally as knowledgeable but if you're not on my level like you don't know every single detail of the housewife and the hustler in the gerardi case like i can't explain it to you from the beginning That's like asking me to read the encyclopedia to you. Yeah. No,

like I'm not a teacher. And also I find that like when I'm talking, when I'm talking about something for so long, like people do check out and it's like, bitch, you asked me. No. And then when they ask, it's just downright disrespectful because they're basically saying I don't listen to the morning toast. Right? No, it's like, it's all there laid out in front of you. I just, not that anyone's done that to me this week, but I was just about to say to you, like what's going on this week? Well, actually I did really feel like you because my God, it is hard to choose stories. And of course, Monday was easy. Like I will not lie. I actually did six stories on Monday because there was like so much to recap with not skinny, but not that. And it was like sub stories. Great. And then I knew Tuesday it would be harder and then I thought there would be

a pickup in some other day Wednesday was a shit show Thursday was a shit show and so like it was so frustrating because I know not every day is going to be like hot news buzzworthy stories but oh my god I wasn't expecting literally four out of the five days to be deserted yeah no I've been trying to tell you it's crazy yeah so I have to say that's probably been my least favorite part of doing this actually my least favorite part of doing it by myself is that the other person doesn't really know the time crunch that I'm on to work our ads into the show and I also feel weird reading ads in front of Tyler. See, I'm not going to lie. Right. Yeah. No, I could see how that could be awkward.

No, really. It was painful. So yeah, that was probably what I struggled with the most, but I do want to let everyone know just to kind of be consistent for this entire week. I have chosen the stories for today's show. Usually Jackie does when we're podcasting remotely and every other show. But I am going to, I chose the stories and I'm going to read them aloud just because I've kind of gotten in this groove and I just don't want to finish what I started.

Monday, it's your problem again. But until then, it's mine. Yes. And also, I will be doing ads. I'm sorry, are you busy? No. You're like touching your phone. Who's texting you?

Okay, sorry. There's music playing in the background where I am, and I'm trying to get them to turn it off. Oh, okay. So you're texting Zach. Okay, no, that's fine. I'm just like, this girl is not listening to anything I'm fucking saying. No, I'm listening to everything that you're saying. I'm going to be doing the ads.

I'm excited to see what stories you chose because it's going to be a totally different show than if I were the one choosing the stories. And also, yeah, I'm excited. This is stories you chose because it's going to be a totally different show than if I were the one choosing the stories. And also, yeah, I'm excited. This is really a role reversal for us, like for me to react, you know? Do you feel powerless? No, I feel relaxed. I do. And I'm excited. But I do feel like I'm on someone's podcast.

Like, what are we talking about today? Also, this is going to be a Claudia Explains It all kind of episode because we're talking about housewives. I know you probably haven't been keeping up with everything that's been on TV this last week. I have because I have nothing else to do. So I will give you some context backstory on the show, on the stories that are about TV shows that I know you haven't seen yet. Okay, cool. I love a Claudia explains it all, you know, cause I'm just like such a grandma and I'm really out of touch. And as far as content goes for me, I finished Medici on Netflix and I thought it was really good. I finished my book, People We Meet on Vacation, and I thought it was kind of bad. Oh, it's on my list. But the people on TikTok like it. I feel like you're too like elevated

and smart for it. Well, I liked the other book by that author. I don't think it was because I was being elevated and smart. Like I think it was, I don't think you would like it. Oh, really? It just dragged on a little too much for me. And it was just like a little stupid. These two people are like obviously in love, OTP, like fucking make it work. Sorry. Have you been watching Love Island at all?

No. Oh my God. I have to say. Is it a whole different show now? No, but last night's episode started the new season of the same show. Like two, I won't spoil it for you, but two girls decided to blow shit up. Oh my God. I'm so excited.

Download that for the plane. It's so fucking good. And you know, everyone keeps telling me like, you have to watch UK. You have to watch UK. I hear you. I'm so happy with where I'm at with Love Island US. And I guess if you compared it, maybe you could say one is better than the other. I'm so happy with where I'm at with Love Island U.S. And I guess if you compared it, maybe you could say one is better than the other. I'm having the best time. I don't need to take on like this burden with all these new seasons. Like I'm so like riding or dying for Shannon and Josh.

Like I don't think I need to be disrupted. And I feel like Love Island U.K., correct me if I'm wrong, really gives me too hot to handle vibes. I feel that. Maybe that's because all those people are British though. I heard a rumor that this season US is actually better than UK. No, I'm telling you. I'm like, how can anything be better? This is so good. Yeah. So I feel good about our choice too. You know, you can't do it all. No. And there is a US version that airs every night. You don't have to download a VPN, even though you could use IPVanish if you wanted to. You could. You could. But you know, sometimes you could just also turn on CBS. No, it's so easy. And like with the Paramount Plus, I don't even record it because

it goes on Paramount Plus the next day or even that night. So it's so premium. And this isn't even an ad, even though they do sponsor our show here and there. I'm having the best time. So thank you to everyone who's recommending UK. But I'm finding this, this inner peace and I don't want to disturb it because I'm just loving having something to watch, being a part of something in real time. Yeah, no, you're definitely a part of everything. I really feel like you're really a part of everything this week. Like you're just like so booked and busy and like you were in, like there were articles written about like, like things that you discussed our tyler c episode was making the press so thank you to all the toasters who work at various

publications who just thought it would be interesting to write up that tyler c and his girlfriend didn't date didn't kiss till their fifth date so interesting fascinating so and that's good for theo to know that probably he's got four more dates under his belt before i mean i'm not even being dramatic when i say theo has truly not been the same since tyler left the And that's good for Theo to know that probably he's got four more dates under his belt before he gets a big smooch. I'm not even being dramatic when I say Theo has truly not been the same since Tyler left the studio. Did you see how he was literally like yearning out the window when Tyler left? Yes, I did. I did see that.

Heartbroken. I saw the pictures. I saw people tag me in like videos of like just Tyler just stroking Theo the whole time. Jackie, Theo sat with Tyler from start to finish. Didn't even look at me once. Slept so peacefully. I've never seen his eyes close that shut. Like he's, he reached a level of euphoria, like rubbing up against Tyler's thigh. And I think that's probably a feeling a lot of us would feel if we were ever in that position. Theo is all of us. No, literally. Yeah. Well, speaking of Theo, I think without further ado to do to do

one last thing, I was really torn on whether or not to bring Theo to the studio that day, because with guests, I don't want to overwhelm Theo. I don't want to overwhelm the guests. You don't know if they're allergic to dogs. Like it's just not whatever. And something he was like looking at me when I was leaving, he was like, and I'm so glad it made the episode. Like I was so glad I ended up bringing him. That's Theo, the businessman and the doctor. And you know that Tyler C like is a dog lover. We didn't watch the episode yet,

but we spoke so much about barkitecture. Yes. The show for dogs. Like he's a pupophile. Yes. And I won't spoil it for you, but I did ask the hard hitting questions about who took out the trash in the quarantine house. And did you ask who made the biggest dump? No, but Jackie,

he was dying laughing when I was like me and Jackie could not get over how much trash was being acquired in this home. Like, did you never take out the trash? He was like, we took it out every five minutes. There were so many people in the house and there were so many press boxes coming like so much pr that all the cardboard all the boxes like it added up so quickly and i was like i actually really appreciated the insight yeah no that was just a crazy time when he looks back on on that time what does he think i think he definitely had a little shame associated with his dancing in a lot of those videos but he did say like he has a big dance project coming up which he wouldn't tell me about i'm like dancing with the stars but you can't it's so it's so top secret if you're

going to be on dancing with the stars he would never have been allowed to drop it on the podcast so i don't know what the hell he was referring to but i guess it was good practice yeah maybe he's going to be like a judge on so you think you can dance i don't fucking know interesting maybe he's hosting like doggy dancing with the stars dancing with the dogs i mean i would literally tune into that in three seconds me too okay well speaking now of dogs without further do-do-do-do-do do you feel good about that i do i do sorry i had to just get that last one thing in. You do.

You do. I do, do, do. Okay. Without further ado, it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you need to know that Claudia has chosen before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. And before we get into that, I need to let you know that today's episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Is there something interfering with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals? BetterHelp will assess

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and I'll read the article, is because, and I know you didn't see, but this week, Dorit, when trying to commiserate with Erica, talked about how last year they had all those financial problems and really spoke about them like they were in the past. And I believed her. And I was like, oh my God, I'm so glad this is behind her. But no, not according to page six. Erica Jane isn't the only Real Housewife finding out that life can be just a little too expensive. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast member Dorit Kemsley and her husband PK reportedly owe more than $1.3 million combined in unpaid taxes dating back to 2015. Was she on the show in 2015? No, maybe 2016 because I think her first season was when we were doing The Breath and that was

2017. According to documents obtained by The Sun, PK has two active solo tax liens in the state of California, one for about $300,000, and then that one's from 2015, and then another one for $290,000 from October of 2018. He and Dorit are then both named in a 2018 tax document that states that the couple owes the IRS $635,000. states that the couple owes the IRS $635,000. She rounds out the debt with her own individual tax lien from March 2021. That states she owes the state of California an additional $90,000. So that all totals to $1.3 million. All liens remain unpaid. They put their house on the market for $9.5 million in September. And it's just been reduced to $8 million, if that's any indicator of desperate levels.

Got it. Okay, this is really, unfortunately, not surprising. I feel like for a few years now, we've kind of been waiting for the other shoe to drop with Dorit and PK because, like, even if he is the most successful manager of Boy George of all time, looks, looks, looks for Dorit, those things cost money. Let's say, I don't even understand how he works with Boy George,

but even if he does, getting as a manager 10% of Boy George's annual earnings does not support the lifestyle they live, even outside of all of her glam. Their house, their trips, everything, the cars, the homes. Agreed. Boy George is not Justin Bieber. No. Right. And even, by the way, even really successful music managers or any type of managers don't have one successful client. They have like five and that's how they sustain their business. Yeah. So I've always just tried to like hope that, you know, he has investments in other businesses that I don't know about. Family money. Everything was fine over at the Kemsleys. It's clear everything is not fine. It's also crazy now that like, now that the level of

housewife crime has reached where it is, it's like, oh, she didn't pay her taxes. At least like, you know, it's not orphans and widows. No course and honestly like you know me i'm such a hater at least it's not gullible elderly yeah no like and this is a theresa judice situation the only people theresa judice committed a crime against was the government and it's like yeah fuck the government like so with dorit i don't think she's a bad person or like evil but this does worry me because i already do feel like this season she's kind of taking a back seat which isn't bad everyone has good seasons and hot seasons and whatever but she's already kind of fading into the background and if they really don't have any money like that's just it's not good for her future on the show and I think that the show sustains a good

amount of their lifestyle yeah also watching, you could say like this storyline now makes her interesting. Like hearing that someone didn't pay their taxes is just like not interesting to me. Yeah. Unless PK is going to go to jail. Unless. Because this is from 2015. And as far as I know, because I have accidentally underreported taxes, from when I was in college, I spoke about it in my book, you just get a notice and they're like, girl, you underreported, you have to pay X amount and here's penalties and interest and you pay it. So when I got that letter, it was like two years later. This is from 2015. So that's six years. And I do believe, I don't know at what point when

you don't pay, does it become a crime? Because people make mistakes, you owe money. Right. So things happen. Like everyone, I think if you run a business has miscalculated and it's called back taxes. I don't think that's not a crime because the government's like, you owe X amount of money. We're not going to tell you what it is type of thing. Right. But if you get it wrong, but if you get it wrong, you go to jail. Right. So I don't know at what point does it go from being a mistake to being a crime. But I do feel like six years is a long time. Yeah. I mean, hopefully they are as, you know, well off as they say. And they're like, and they saw this article and they're like, oh, we didn't pay our taxes. Like we will go send a million point three to the government today. See, I'll never understand. There's a lot of things I don't

understand, but I'll never understand people who owe millions of dollars to the government, which I could end you up in jail, but choose to buy fancy homes and cars. So it's like at one point they did have the money. They had to put down a payment for this house. Why not put that money, stay in your rental, and send it to the government just so you don't go to jail? Like I'll just never understand that logic. Yeah, I don't know. There is a degree of, like, human error with some of this stuff, but then there's also, like, it's intentional,

especially after so many years. Like, unless, you know, they really, like, don't check their mail. No, but then it's like, right, when does human error become evading your taxes? Yeah, I don't know. But I agree. This is a very large amount over a lot of years. And you have to earn the money in order to owe the money.

And they just spent the money. So the $90,000 that she owes from March 2021, it's very possible she miscalculated. That, to me, is not the big story. The big story is $300,000 from grand from 2015 and another 300 grand from 2018. You know about that. Yeah, but that's just PK. Just PK, yes. And then they have a communal one for $635,000 also from 2018. Oof, that's not good.

If I had to guess, this is smelling like an evasion, not a mistake. Yeah, also just like unrelated but related i'm in la and i saw lisa vanderpump today oh my god where um at malibu country mart i think it is where there's like all these little shops um and actually zach was the one who spotted her of course and then um and then i was just like looking over my shoulder and it was her indeed. She looked very fabulous. You know, I didn't go and say anything just because we, you know, talk a lot of smack. No, that was me at Jax and Brittany's wedding, like running to the other side of the room. Not that she even knows who the fuck we are, like irrelevant uglies.

No, but it's like, I still have, I have like, you know, integrity and it's just like, I would never talk out of one side of my mouth and then go be fake on the other. And also like, I'm just not the type of person that goes up to celebrities anyway. Um, but also at the same time that I saw her, like a toaster saw me and it was just, and then the toaster FaceTimed her sister cause her sister is the bigger fan. And then I was like, do you watch Vanderpump rules? And then like, it was both me and Lisa in the frame.

It was good times. Gotta see those photos. Yeah, no, she dm'd them to me it was really funny um so yeah that's like what happens when you're in LA you know some people aren't paying their taxes other people are seeing Lisa Vanderpump that's so true and you know there's two types of people in LA there used to be all these whispers about Lisa's finances and like the restaurants and stuff that happened to her back in the UK but as I always say there's proof in the pudding like Like you're not in jail. You're not in page six for owing money to the government. Like you're squeaky clean in my book. Yeah, there is proof in the pudding. And you do say that. And by the way, there is a difference between being in a

lawsuit and evading taxes because in a lawsuit, you just have to pay back. In evading taxes, you could go to jail yeah no it's crazy like pk in jail i can't imagine it duree yeah i mean is duree how much money did the um judices evade or steal or fraud i don't know but they also had other crimes like you know forgery and wire tapping wire fraud it was beyond if their only problem was evading taxes they might not steal or fraud. I don't know, but they also had other crimes like, you know, forgery and wiretapping. Wire fraud. It was beyond, if their only problem was evading taxes, they might not have gone to jail.

Or definitely Teresa wouldn't have. Yeah, but she had like some signatures. Yeah, on mail fraud. They had like every single one, racketeering, every bad one they had. Yeah, exactly. So that's your Housewives Finance News. Well, thank you so much for sharing that with me because I didn't know. And as a Dreet stan, like, again, not surprised that there was more to their financial story. You know, I hate to say this because I don't always believe it.

But in this particular situation, I do believe that the phrase applies. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Yeah. situation i do believe that the phrase applies where there's smoke there's fire yeah but if this is the fire like they could get out like three could put her whole paycheck this season towards paying off that tax yeah well i'm sure there's a lot of penalties and interest beyond the what they actually owe yeah all right well we're wishing her the best. Maybe we'll start her a GoFundMe. I don't know if you can GoFundMe for your taxes. You'd also have to pay taxes on the money you raise. So true.

Trust me, like, if that was a thing, I'd be doing it. It's a vicious cycle. No, later. That's why they say Big Brother's always watching. Yeah. All right, next up, 13 Re why star Tommy Dorfman comes out as transgender. Tommy Dorfman has come out as transgender. The 13 reasons why star shared in a new interview with Time Magazine that she has been living as a woman and uses she slash her

pronouns. She said, we're talking today to discuss my gender. For a year now, I have been privately identifying and living as a woman, a trans woman. Dorfman said she's using the interview as a means to reintroduce herself as she's undergone surgery to medically become a woman. Coming out is always viewed as this grand reveal, but I was never not out, she explained. Today is about clarity. I am a trans woman. My pronouns are she slash her.

My name is Tani. She did this sickening photo shoot with Time Magazine where she just looks bomb.com. And you just love to see people out here living their truths, their best lives. And I think my favorite fact of this is that Tommy Dorfman is cousins with Andy Dorfman. I just found that out. I don't watch 13 Reasons Why, so I'm unfamiliar with her work, but I'm very happy to hear this news. Someone living their truth and feeling respected and welcomed enough to share with the world.

I only found out, I had, I think I maybe knew that they were cousins, but on an episode of Real Housewives of New York or Beverly Hills, they were at a fashion event. And they're showing all the celebrities who are at this fashion event. And it says Tommy and Andy Dorfman. And I'm like, oh my god, they're definitely cousins. That's so crazy. And that's crazy that that's how you found that out. I wonder who was famous first.

I feel like Andy. I feel like Andy also. Because Andy was on The Bachelorette so long ago is Tommy from anything else other than 13 Reasons Why? oh yes Love Victor the Hulu show or no yeah Love Victor's on Hulu yeah I don't watch it either

very cool yeah well happy for her love to see people living their truths this is a story I don't know if you know this and I think it'll blow your mind but probably know. You know that Liz Gillies was on Watch What Happens Live last night. So I saw a video that looked like she was on Watch What Happens Live, and I never got confirmation, but I went on with my day as if she was on Watch What Happens Live. Yes, she was on, and she looked stunning. She wore a vintage Bob Mackie dress. Like it was, she just looked, she looked like Fallon, first of all.

Like glamour. Right. Okay, that's what I saw. With the cape and like the, all of it. Stunning. And I just don't know if she's ever been on Watch What Happens Live, but it was a great convergence for me of like everything. But is she a big Bravo fan?

I didn't watch. I'm not sure. But the big news from that interview was why she wasn't at Ariana Grande's wedding. So E! News writes up, Why Victorious star Elizabeth Gillies turned down an invitation to Ariana Grande's wedding? Unfortunately for Elizabeth Gillies, she had to reply, Thank you, next, to Ariana Grande's wedding invitation. Unlike most of us, she was well aware her friend was set to marry Dalton Gomez during an intimate ceremony in May.

us, she was well aware her friend was set to marry Dalton Gomez during an intimate ceremony in May, but the pandemic prevented her from attending, especially given the tight safety precautions on most TV and film sets. She said, I could not get off work to go to her wedding because we would have to be cleared for like seven days to fly. So not only could I not tell anybody, but I also couldn't even ask for the day off and I couldn't get the day off. So I would have been there. So we had Madison Brown on the toast and Madison said like, they're so tight with COVID and they haven't had an outbreak yet. And like a lot of shows have quit,

like paused production for people on the crew or the stars getting COVID, but Dynasty has not. And I guess it's because they're super, super strict, strict enough that Liz couldn't even go to Ariana's wedding. Yeah. And the vibe I get from watching all their stories of them filming Dynasty is like they literally work 24 hours a day seven days a week like they film so many episodes and like so it's not just like lackadaisical over there and that's just a bummer that she didn't get to see that sickening look in person um you know because that was definitely

like a a stark moment yes that's like a thing with the cw shows they all are an hour they're 22 maybe even more episodes per season and so they're literally like living in vancouver for riverdale or atlanta for dynasty for most of the year which like you know hbo shows film like 30 minute episodes 10 episodes so it's literally like less than half the work so um i feel like there, if you're on one of those shows, you're just like always working. Yeah. Which is, you know, probably tiresome, but great work for a working actor, like a very steady job. Yeah. So I guess that's really the moral of this story is, you know, Liz Gillies has a steady job. Liz Gillies has a nine to five. Couldn't make Friends wedding.

Yeah, and I also feel like that. Couldn't get PTO. I also think that, so relatable. I also think that that also stops a lot of the people on those shows from becoming like uber famous. Because they can't go to like events or red carpets because they're literally in Vancouver. Like the Riverdale cast became so famous so fast. It was actually crazy. You remember that time? Like 30 million Instagram followers. Yeah. I was on that ride. And now I feel like they're kind of irrelevant. Well, everything just, you know, what goes up must

come down. I think now they're not irrelevant, but they're big stars and they're not, they're just chilling up there. Yeah. Yeah. They're just no longer rising. They've risen. They're just chilling up there. Yeah, yeah. They're just no longer rising. They've risen. They have risen. Yeah.

So, yeah, I have to catch up with Dynasty, but I do like to batch them all together. I need to watch her on Watch What Happens Live. Do you know who she was on with? I do, but it's just, like, not coming to me at all. That's okay. Those things happen. But, no, that's a beautiful collaboration. Oh, I think it was Sutton. That's okay. Those things happen. But no, that's a beautiful collaboration. Oh, I think it was Sutton.

Oh. Oh my God. Our friend Margo saw Sutton Strack on Madison Avenue yesterday. Oh my God. Walking with like shopping bags and people and she like looked stunning and you just. I would expect nothing less. Nothing. And she, they gave us a mid-season trailer. I don't know if you saw it

and no I didn't yeah I mean it was all like on Instagram like you might have seen it but it looks like coming up Sutton's kind of the only one who's questioning what Erica knew what her intentions are and Erica does not take it lightly like she comes for Sutton just for Sutton asking I think things a lot of us are wondering as well. Yeah. I mean, time will tell, but I do think that would probably play well for Sutton among the audience. Cause I think a lot of people are, have questions and if all the ladies just sort of brush it under the rug, you know, especially after they held Denise's feet to the fire, um, I don't think the audience will be pleased. So I think that actually will be a good

Q score move for Sutton. Ever since you implanted that in my brain, I'm having a really hard time reconciling with this season because as much as I love female friendship, that's one of my favorite things about Love Island is that it's not catty at all. It's the most mature group of women. They're so supportive. They're like always singing and dancing in their dressing rooms.

It's so cute. And it's actually one of my favorite parts that gets me to tune in. And so I love that they're all really being there for Erica. And I don't think it's right to like turn on people when they're down. But the track record of this group is so like tumultuous when people are going through things that are so much less bad that once you made that comparison for me, it's really been difficult for me to like watch them all kind of coddle her. Yeah, I agree. When Denise did something off camera, not illegal, not immoral, nothing wrong with it. And they had to make it the center of the group, shame her for it, bring it up in every conversation and ultimately got her to leave the show because of it. It's

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In case you haven't heard, the much-talked-about HBO Max Friends reunion, which much to the delight of fans debuted back in May, recently snagged an Emmy nomination. Courtney, along with co-stars Jen, David, Matt, Matthew Perry, and Lisa, have been nominated for their work as executive producers in the Outstanding Variety Special category. Here's what she had to say. Honestly, I am so happy that the reunion has been recognized because I think it's terrific. Ben Winston, the director, did a great job and all of his crew. However, although the actress expressed her joy about the special getting nominated, she also dropped a hint about missing one of her own. That's not exactly the Emmy I was looking for, she admitted. I'm being honest with you. Over the course of the hit show's 10-year run,

Kourtney was the only cast member of the group that did not receive an Emmy nomination. Back in June, during an appearance on Howard Stern, she shared her true feelings about that matter. She said, yeah, it always hurt my feelings when every single cast member was nominated but me. It definitely hurt my feelings. I was happy for everybody. And then when it was finally like, oh, I'm the only one, that hurt. So I actually didn't know that. I think I've looked up before who was nominated for anything from that show, just because I was curious, but I don't think I ever put together that she was the only one who didn't get nominated. Um, and as someone who literally knows everything about the show, I find that really shocking. Not because I thought

she was such a great actress, but because there were so many worse ones than her. Because I love Friends, but one of my critiques of it is that the acting at many times is community theater. Who was the worst one? You know, everyone had good seasons and bad seasons. I can say without a doubt, the two best actors on the show who literally lived and breathed their characters, and you would have never known they were acting. Can I guess? Yeah.

Can I guess Ross and Joey? Ross and Phoebe. Okay, fine. They're both like put so much of themselves and they even said it in the HBO Max reunion, which I thought was cool. Like they put so much of themselves and it's clear that the rest of the group really like respects and regards them as really becoming one with their characters. If I had to say like who the worsts were, and don't come for me, this is just my opinion. I think definitely Joey Tribbiani was atrocious at times. And I'm sorry, Rachel Green, like Jennifer Aniston. And I do believe Jennifer Aniston ended up winning once. I just thought they were both subpar, like true sitcom acting.

Nothing method or revolutionary about it. So I do find it shocking. She really actually, Courtney, even though Monica was not my favorite, she really was Monica. So I do find it surprising that she was the only one excluded when not all of them were really even that amazing. In terms of acting. when not all of them were really even like that amazing. In terms of acting. It's more so surprising that, you know,

that special was nominated for something, for producing, whatever. All right, relax. I didn't watch it, so like I can't be that hard on it. And you did like it. You mean the reunion, not the whole show. Right. Oh my God, yeah.

No, I'm not that much of a hater, even though that, but like Modern Family gets nominated for Emmys all the time. Yeah. And especially one that's successful and popular, like they should be nominated. And I agree with modern family being nominated. So like Friends has to fall into that category for me, too. You know, just like that, this special was was nominated. I actually agree. OK, cool, cool. Because I loved the special every minute of it because I'm such a big fan. Um, but I don't think there was really anything revolutionary about like the cinematography or the concept. And honestly, some of the concepts and the segments were really cringy, like the fashion show. So I agree. I don't know if the whole segment, the whole episode is

worth an Emmy nomination, especially when this has actually been an amazing year for TV. There were so many good TV shows. But I wonder what category it was nominated in like me too I'm gonna google it bullshit like um you know special reunion right category I agree and then it's probably like the things that's nominated with are probably even worse so they got four nominations actually okay nominated for production design and lighting design sure do you think that the lighting was really that good though i don't know um wait let me see what else winston was nominated for directing okay great um they were all nominated because they were all executive producers so they got the nomination as

well so yeah it's not like best show period it's like random obscure ones that's good but you know what an emmy is an emmy and so like why can't we get nominated for best lighting because honestly we have really good lighting no and why can't we get nominated for best doctor oh i mean the good doctor dr. Theodore Fitzgerald. I don't know. That's fucking twisted. And by the way, let's talk about how that show just like stole his story. And let's talk about how the organization Doctors Without Borders really stole Theo's entire mantra.

A hundred percent. I mean, they could say they were inspired, but we all know what really happened. We know. No, but we, like, if those are real categories for Emmys, like, what about the category for, like, Best Sisterly Bond? The Morning Toast. Best, like, slang. Yeah. Yeah. No, like, there's crazy categories.

I'm in shock, honey. And you know what? Like, a podcaster having an Emmy is not crazy. Kelty has two. I always forget that. It's like the craziest thing. Yes, but like for not podcast work. No, of course, because she's on Entertainment Tonight.

But I'm saying it's not that far off that someone could have a podcast and an Emmy. No, no, no. But like could you win an Emmy for your podcast? Yeah. Podcast awards are so like obscure and weird because they have a bunch. Like I Heart Radio. Yeah, podcast awards are so obscure and weird because they have a bunch. I can't believe there's not one big, real podcast award. Televised.

Podcasts are so... Spotify should put them on. But the thing is, when a company like iHeartRadio or Spotify, let's say hypothetically, puts those things on, they own certain podcasts. And if it's this big televised event, of course, they're going to give it to their podcast. It's good press. You would need need like an obscure, like the Hollywood foreign podcast association, the HFPA. Yeah, no, we need the potties that are not associated with any platform, but just, you know, and the potties that aren't, um, associated with any toilets. Um, no, I think that that is what's next. and i think that would be really interesting and of course like

if we aren't nominated then it's complete horseshit but um i think we have a chance yeah i think the only way for like a new podcast award show to legitimize themselves in my eyes is to nominate us yeah just because like we're kind of you know we're really harsh critics so if you want to if you want to get good feedback, just nominate us. We're also thought leaders in the space. Also, we have a really fucking popular podcast that's so funny and sisterly. So hilarious. And you know what?

The reviews are in, and we read so many of them on our newest Patreon episode. I told everyone on yesterday's show about it. Oh, okay, cool. You guys, you have to go listen. It was so fucking funny and they were there it was it got pretty real like there were some mean ones that were just like not helpful there were some that probably weren't meant for our show yeah um but there were some ones that gave us some stuff to think about 100 are you ready for our fifth and final story

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All right, our final story is a little tech biz news. I'm so excited. What's going on? It's actually really shocking. Snapchat is growing faster than it has in years. The ephemeral messaging app now has 293 million daily users. Just a couple years ago, there were concerns that Snap, the parent company of Snapchat, wouldn't survive as a standalone company.

Its stock price bottomed out at around $5 after a disastrous redesign that slowed user growth and confused advertisers. The situation is much different now. Snapchat is growing faster than it has since 2017, the year it went public. On Thursday, the camera-based messaging app said it had added 13 million daily users during their second quarter, which is a 23% increase from the year-ago period. That means 293 people use Snapchat every day around the world, which is up from 173 million this time four years ago. So just like for some reference, Twitter reported 206 million daily users in the second quarter. Snapchat now has

293. Snap's revenue, yeah, their revenue also soared 116% to $982 million, which is making it a faster growing business than Twitter or Facebook. So these new numbers solidify one of the most impressive turnaround stories in tech. They also reflect how tech companies have benefited throughout the pandemic as people increasingly spend more time online. Snap CEO Evan Spiegel, also husband of Miranda Kerr, has said he expects the app's user base to actually grow faster as the pandemic and lockdowns end since Snapchat is designed to be used out and about with friends. So I just thought this was shocking because as a social media influencer, while I don't

use Snapchat and I definitely, you know, went away from it during their big drama when they redesigned and it was just like not about chatting anymore and discover page. But I do know that like a lot, and this is what I learned from being on TikTok a lot. So many of the kids are like, add me on Snap. Like they're not even got the way to communicate. You meet someone on the internet. It's not like, follow me on Instagram. It's of the kids are like, add me on Snap. Like they're not even got the way to communicate. You meet someone on the internet. It's not like follow me on Instagram. It's at what's your Snap?

Add me on Snap. That's so interesting how that happened. I do feel like there is a space for Snapchat. I saw a girl on the plane. Like when we landed, she like took the quickest picture of herself on Snapchat and then sent it to her peers. Jackie, seeing a teenager do a streak, they literally take like two seconds. They just have to get their photo in.

Yeah, no. And it's like it was just so crazy. And there really is no other app where you do stuff like that because Instagram is so curated. You know, everybody has the filters and it's like, you know, with the font and everything. And it's not like for your your Finsta looking selfies. TikTok, like it really is just like a like a a quick one-to-one messaging app like i do i do see how this could happen they also you're saying snapchat is not like other apps snapchat is not like other apps and i don't know if it was intentional or they just knew that

the proof is in the pudding and that like there is a use there's utility for this app but i do think that people are sort of like fed up with the Facebooks and Instagrams and Twitters and like, they're all over you. And they're like, do this, do that, download this. Oh, you want to message your friend? You got to do it on Facebook. Now I'm like, get the fuck out of here. I'm on Instagram. No, you want to message them on Facebook? Download a brand new app. Yeah. And it's, they're just like, they're hovering. They're taking advantage of our time and our energy. Yeah. And you can can just feel them watching everything you're doing. It's like, okay, it's just crazy.

And I do feel like Snapchat is a little bit more private, and they don't have that. I don't know what they do with their data and if they're watching you just as intently as the other platforms, but it doesn't feel like they are. No, I mean, I don't know. I'm literally not on Snapchat. I don't even have the app on my phone. Do you? So I recently deleted it because, as you know, I have a storage issue on my phone and things. You know, even have the app on my phone. Do you? So I recently deleted it because as you know, I have a storage issue on my phone and things, you know, it's survival of the fittest

and I had to delete Snapchat, which I was so upset about because AC uses Snapchat like all the time. She used to snap her counselor every day. And can I ask you a question? Like why not just get a bigger phone? There is no bigger phone. Then's something wrong with you because the biggest phone is, it's not like you have files. You're an average phone user. You take pictures. You use social media. There's no reason the biggest phone should not be able to accommodate you to the point where you're deleting apps you actually enjoy and use. The reason why I don't have enough space is because I don't use the cloud.

And why is that? I just think it's so funky. I just like, by the way, I'm watching Never Have I Ever season two, which you will love. And her mom refuses to pay for the cloud because she says she refuses to pay for something that doesn't exist. No. And it's like, I mean, even though this movie was so terrible, like it kind of is apt here that the movie sex tape where they upload their sex tape to the cloud and then they have to like go and try and find the cloud. And it's like really stupid. But, um, just, I, I think the cloud is just like a little weird and I like having the items on my phone where I can see them.

And I just, I haven't been, maybe like someone could, you know, send me some, some pro cloud, um, information and information and maybe change my mind about this. But every time, like even with my 50,000 photos, as I'm like nearing, you know, 257.9 GBs on my phone, um, I just can't be, I can't be persuaded. I'm like, persuaded I'm like you know what I'll erase another thousand photos we'll make that to see another day you're gonna like erase pictures of Bruno and Michaela like before you download the cloud yeah I don't even know you could use your phone without a cloud yeah you can you don't have to upload all your pictures to the cloud yeah I mean I guess the downside is like if I want to go look at a picture from like a million years ago, it takes like a couple seconds to download, but that's really not a big

deal. Like at all. I haven't worried about storage ever. Yeah, no, that's not a big deal at all. I don't even want pictures from a million years ago on my phone. So it's just, it's crazy. At some point I'm going to have to, you know, make a decision. Um, or maybe I'll just get a new phone and then not transfer my pictures over. That's insane. I mean, you're really make a decision. Or maybe I'll just get a new phone and then not transfer my pictures over. That's insane. I mean, you really are a grandma. Afraid of the cloud? Is that that crazy? Am I the only one who thinks the cloud is just like so funky? I have heard, I know a lot of celebrities don't use the cloud. Like all their text messages go through a green just because of that big iCloud hack a couple of years ago.

Back when there were all those celeb hackings and all the nude photos leaked, like those came from the cloud. Yes, so the cloud, I agree, isn't the most secure. But that's not what it sounds like your concern is. I just think, you know, we don't know what we don't know about the cloud. Sometimes like you and your conspiracy theories

like are crazy. But you know what, it's fine. Like AC had to get off soundcheck one it was bad for her mental health and but i wonder how the counselor is handling it because she like obviously you know pesky ac no one wants to hear from her anymore but i feel like she misses ac she hasn't mentioned it to me well you know she keeps all of her emotions bottled up yeah um so those are the past five stories quite robust i, I think. And I really, I'm not going to lie. I do enjoy like being in control, but I do miss like just sitting around doing nothing, like waiting for someone to like bring me a story on a silver platter. Like I'm sweating. Like I've

never worked so hard in my life. No, it's so true. Like, thank you so much for having me on your podcast. Like it was so nice to like come here and talk to you and like get to do, like see what you do. It really is like such a pleasure you are unbelievably welcome and i'm so glad we got to podcast together for everyone who's listening we're back in studio on monday back to the normal schedule jackie and i both will be there and i hope you guys enjoyed this crazy week of fun-filled adventures that's really what it was and i had a great time i hope you all enjoyed it i really hope you enjoyed it on behalf of me and all the toasters we just want to say thank you for holding it down and giving us such premium content and I hope that you have the most amazing weekend you know um run to the edge

of the cliff and then like get scared and turn around no I'm scared no because honestly like you put up with so much when I was on tour for two years until we realized like the pandemic actually really helped us in a way kind of cultivate our remote podcasting skills. So moving forward, like I'm in the process now of booking my shows for the next tour. It's not going to be a problem, which is such a relief. Yeah, it is such a relief. Oh, what a relief it is. Yeah.

So go get ready for your weekend. Have so much fun. Please send my love to Theo. Is he coming with you? No, he's staying at his grandma's and he literally cannot wait because you know he likes Ben's mom like definitely more than he likes me. Yeah. And I heard Ben's mom invited Tyler C over for dinner. I didn't hear that. For Theo. I didn't hear that. Theo has a date. Theo has a date. No, I actually didn't hear that. You broke up. You literally went mute.

I didn't hear anything you said. Oh, maybe because it was a secret. I feel like it's a sign. I actually feel like I don't want to know. Like, I wasn't meant to know that dumb joke. Like, God was protecting me. No, no, no. Let me just get off my text.

Ben's mom invited Tyler C. over for dinner. Yeah, that's why Theo's been already packing his bags. He can't wait to get out there. You guys, hope you have an amazing weekend. Thank you so much for listening to The Morning Toast, the millennial morning show where we deliver the past five stories every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you have watched this podcast on YouTube before, feel free to head over there, subscribe, give this video a thumbs up.

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I love the secret society that we've started. And the society season two is happening right here. Were you doing it without me this week? No. Okay. I feel, I'm so glad. I would never. We gotta end it so that no one knows that something happened here.

Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. Nothing happened here. Bye.