The Toast - S4 Ep143: Everything's Coming Up Beanie: Thursday, August 12th, 2021

Episode Date: August 12, 2021

Heidi Montag: Lauren Conrad's career should be more successful (Page Six) Olivia Rodrigo clears up tawdry 'Drivers License' love triangle rumors (NY Post) Beanie Feldstein to star in 'Funny Girl' Broadway revival in 2022 (NY Post) Tituss Burgess Cast as Rooster in NBC's Upcoming Annie Live! Special: 'Rooster's Outta the Bag' (PEOPLE) Mike Richards Named New Permanent Jeopardy! Host, Mayim Bialik Tapped to Host Spinoff Series (PEOPLE) Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Recap Love Island Recap The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone's having a great day. Hi, Jackie. How are you? Hi, Claudia. I'm doing well, thank you. And that is because it's Thursday and we're officially over the hump. We are sliding into the weekend. And this week for me was one of those weeks at the beginning of the week where I was like, I am so excited for this week to be over. I have so much to do this week. And so once it's so excited for this week to be over. I have so much to do this week and so once it's Friday night like all will be done. And it's Friday night you're a small town girl everything is right and we rule the world. I've just been like having this joie de vivre like all week. I can't explain it like not to be so annoying. I think it's the hairstyle. No I'm telling you

there's a correlation. I think it's a hairstyle. I think it's also kind of like not to blame, you know, put all my troubles on the Olympics, but like, I just feel this weight lifted off of me and I just feel lighter than ever. Um, even though I've never weighed more and it's just so exciting, you know, I feel like I've just been in a good mood all week. I can't wait to like for it to run out. I was due for a good mood because the two weeks before, like I was on my period and sick and I was an absolute not here because like you have to

contain my composure but like in private behind closed doors like I was an absolute monster. Damn. So I was due for some good energy.

Who do you think received the monstrosity the worst? Ben or Theo? I would literally never direct any morsel of anger towards Theo.

100% to Ben and honestly the fact that I stand here today making it through that two-week period still a married woman is, it's God. It's really, it's all in his hands. Wow, that's beautiful. Thank you. How are you doing? I'm good. I'm actually really excited because the new episode of The Redheads dropped today. I hear it's quite divisive. It is so divisive. So there are people, we read the book, all four of us, half the group would say one of the books, best books they ever read. The other

half would say the worst book they ever read, which is just so crazy. So we are really getting into everything. Like there's a lot of strong opinions on the episode, which always makes for a great episode. So if you read the book, check it out. If you didn't read the book, you can still listen to the episode because there's a summary and it's just like a really funny episode. But it's never too late to become a redhead. Snitch announced her choice. And it's actually like not that snitchy. It's not a YA?

It's not a YA. It's a novel. A snovel? It's a snovel. It's called We Are the Brennans. And I read the synopsis. It looks really good. I'm really excited to read it.

You're telling me Snitch chose a non-young adult like love story yeah coming of age there's a book that Dana could have chosen so it's not a coming of age story it might be it might be a coming of age story but it's not boy meets girl boy girl gets murdered like girl comes back as a ghost literally to have the best sex of her life no it's not that but I'm really excited to read her choice we also all shared the other books that we read this month which is actually my favorite segment where we just get to talk about books books and I really love the book Clara and the Sun I thought it was such an interesting read um I love Clara I don't know if I told you this but to me the reason I the book resonated with me so much is because did you choose this one Dana chose it so it's like extremely literary won the Nobel Peace Prize um I loved this book because to me

at the heart of it it was about campers and counselors and what hurt the most was that counselor couldn't see that so is it possible though that the book was not very good but you were blinded by the camper counselor energy it's not possible that the book wasn't good because this author is like you know world-renowned. Socrates. Yeah yeah yeah. So it's good it's just I feel like if they didn't really like it it's because they didn't get it. But you know Socrates is a relative term because like for me I would say like Colleen Hoover is a Socrates you know? Yeah. She is. So like if Colleen Hoover wrote a book and some people said it was really bad you'd be like you just don't get it. Well no actually that's the thing about books they're so subjective. They are which is so crazy even in the comment section I'm waiting to hear what the redhead

readers thought about the book because I need more opinions but even in the comment section on our post the comments are this was the best book I ever read or I couldn't finish it. I feel like that's always the case, you know? Yeah, that is true. Nothing's universal. Is there one book out there that everyone can agree is so amazing? Probably like Romeo and Juliet. I don't know.

If you had to sit down and read Romeo and Juliet right now, you wouldn't be able to finish it. I feel like one of the most popular books of the last like two three years was where the crawdad sing but there are some people who couldn't finish it well of course like we're all humans we all have different interests so like no one not everyone is gonna love one book even though i have heard that um i actually haven't heard anyone who didn't like girl with no job the crazy beautiful life of an instagram thirst monster yeah i haven't heard anyone either just read my amazon reviews because they've all been taken out no i'm kidding they've all been murdered no actually i haven't heard anyone either. Just read my Amazon reviews. Because they've all been taken out. No, I'm kidding. They've all been murdered.

They've been silenced. I haven't heard anyone who didn't like It Ends With Us by Colleen Hoover, which we talked about on the episode because I read it this month. Yeah, I guess the only thing I've heard about that book is that, like, because it's so hyped up, was that, like, I mean, the ending is really crazy. But, like, when you hype something up so much, you can really only go down. Yeah. So the only kind of complaint I've heard from people who read it after the hype is like.

Not worth the hype. So much hype. But like if they just read it because they stumbled upon it, it would have been like a life changing book. It was a life changing book for me. Yeah. Do you want to know something crazy? Like there are people who don't like Evelyn Hugo who didn't like it.

Who? Like Rebecca didn't like it. Rebecca? Mm hmm. Hold on. who didn't like it who like Rebecca didn't like it Rebecca hold on I'm allergic to the disgusting nature of this conversation I know didn't like Evelyn Hugo is that crazy there are people who didn't like Evelyn Hugo so that just goes to show I've actually been on this journey that I want to explain to you and like you I feel like you can help me figure it out okay so whenever I've actually been really diving into Taylor Swift's

Evermore album, and I was just having a conversation with my friend Abe about how like, I think it's better than folklore. And whenever I am reading it, I mean, whenever I'm listening to it, I'm especially champagne problems. I really like can't stop thinking about Evelyn Hugo. And I can't decide if that's because I read the book when we were in Utah, Evermore had just come out and I was listening to Evermore a lot, or because I think a book when we were in Utah Evermore had just come out and I was listening to Evermore a lot or because I think a lot of the songs I think a lot of Evelyn Hugo is drawing inspiration from Taylor Swift and I think a lot of the songs draw inspiration from the book if that makes sense. Okay I think your first point's probably the most apt the fact that

when you if you listen to it while you were reading a certain book the the soundtrack will always remind you of that book. Okay. But usually that does fade if the two aren't really congruous no there's so much dropped your hand while dancing champagne problems is so about cecilia and evelyn yeah like remember spoiler alert they're at the concert and like holding hands then someone sees him dropped your hand while dancing. Left you out there standing. It's so about Evelyn and Cecilia. Don't come for me. It could be. It really could be.

But also I think that, and I don't know if this is true, but Taylor Jenkins Reid must have found inspiration in Taylor Swift. Like the seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo, the million boyfriends of Taylor Swift. There are conspiracy theories that Taylor you know I'm just saying I she's never mentioned it really like I don't watch all of her interviews but like I've never even seen a a thread of that really oh man in my mind it was like to me like the seven husbands of Evelyn Hugo like that's like Elizabeth Taylor it's not Elizabeth Taylor Swift no I think it's Elizabeth Taylor Swift I don't think so. Whatever.

Well, we have a great show for you guys today. Fast Five. Actually, some interesting things to talk about, finally. And we have a TV recap. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was on last night. Quite a divisive episode. Yeah. And I mean, the Fast Five, I feel as though they're going to be fast.

Because it's just some news. And I need to talk about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills until the cows come home. Because I need to. We need to get to the bottom of this you and I and Love Island was on last night I know you didn't watch and I'm so glad you didn't because I know how precious your time is

thank you and it is a definitely skip episode because the families are on Zoom right and the whole there's no real couples there so it's like who are you meeting? I mean I'm new friends

we'll talk about it it's so it was silliness okay but I'm ready to dive in I really don't have much else to say I'm new friends. We'll talk about it. It's so, it was silliness. Okay. But I'm ready to dive in. I really don't have much else to say. I'm ready to dive in as well. Just check out the Redheads. Another great episode from the girls.

And it's never too late. So without further ado, where are you? Not here because we have meetings, meetings, meetings. Podcast, podcast, podcast. It is time for the Fast Five Stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. Sorry. And today's episode is brought to you by... Oh my god, my curds are all verklempt. Your curds?

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and nine books, Montag believes her former co-star should have been as successful as billionaire Kylie Jenner. She said, I feel like Lauren didn't make it like she should have. She should be Kylie. She was so good at makeup. She should have done the tutorials. If she had a good team, she'd be a billionaire. She'd be a hundred millionaire. She is not where she should have been at all. She continued saying, quote, she has a Kohl's line. Great, whatever. But she should be a hundred million. That's like saying she has a goldohl's line. Great, whatever. But she should be a hundred millionaires. That's like saying she has a gold bar, whatever. Like Kohl's lines, literally the most rich,

Sofia Vergara, JLo. It's the best thing. It's better than having a line at Chanel. Like it's so mass produced. Didn't Elizabeth and James just go exclusively to Kohl's for Mary-Kate and Ashley?

It's nothing to snuff at. No, it's not. She said, are you kidding? She said, are you kidding me? Who gets that big promotion? That big fame? That big engine behind her? The loved one? This and that? The narrator? No one even gets the narrator show. Kylie didn't get a narrator show. She should be so rich. Okay I have a lot of thoughts and first of all I just really liked that Alex asked this question.

Like she's like well what do you think? Like Lauren made her money and she bounced and like she lives a very and she doesn't have to do the hills reboot like it was a good question um and I just want to preface by saying I really do like Spencer and Heidi like I think the comeback they've made when they were like hated when they didn't even do anything it was just like a stupid tv show that was scripted like I think they're great but this does just give off like bitter vibes because okay could Lauren have become a billionaire maybe maybe but she's a 40 millionaire like that's nothing to scoff at to scoff at like I was suppose I said snuff before that's not the right word it's nothing to scoff at especially because I don't think that's an entirely accurate

representation and it's entirely possible and I think that Heidi and Spencer and admitted they're they'll admit themselves are so fame driven whereas like Lauren was not like how many people can go from being exactly the narrator beloved by the world to being living a completely private life like we know nothing about Lauren so I think that's probably difficult still having a an outward facing brand like her brand still relies on her celebrity but she doesn't even act as a celebrity maybe if she was out there on all these reboots thirsting it up her brand would be bigger but maybe she's like I'd rather have the 40 million and peace of mind than have a hundred million and be thirsty and desperate like some other people

right so I think that the decision Lauren made is that was actually the best one but I just think if like if Heidi and Spencer had been in that position they would have done it completely differently and I don't think that if Lauren had tried to become the next Kylie, she would have. Like if Lauren was out here doing makeup tutorials, like I don't think at all that that's, that's what would have happened. Yeah, I agree. It wasn't the same, they're not on the same timeline.

So you can't say like she should have been doing makeup tutorials because it was still a little early. 20 years ago. Early for stuff like that. Also, yes, Lauren was the narrator of this highly popular MTV show but like Kylie is a Kardashian like it's just so different no I actually think that I think that wasn't a terrible reference only in the sense that at the height of the hills they were as famous as

the Kardashians are now yes but in a time where it was harder to monetize your digital following yes it didn't exist a A hundred percent. So I just think, and first the thing that I just disagreed with the most about most about this interview is kind of the toss away comment about Kohl's. When it's like brands like that, that's how Jessica Simpson built a billion dollar brand. It's hers at Kohl's? I was thinking that too. Did it start at Kohl's? I don't know, but I was going to mention Jessica Simpson. So if we both had the same thought, then there's something. Well, if it's on Kohl's, it's a similar brand. And like she runs a billion dollar business. Her business did over a billion dollars in sales.

So just like the kind of like it's only at Kohl's. It's that's the best kind of deal you can have. It's so mass market. Is it the fanciest? No, but you're getting your clothes into literally millions of people's homes. And that's the best thing you can have so she only has a line of coals that's give me a line of coals like that's the best thing so many celebrities have it and it's they make more money from it than they do like their music JLo has it Sofia Vergara has it everyone has it yeah it's just really crazy that this is Heidi's take but I have to believe this is how like her and Spencer sleep at night like because Lauren got so much from the show and just was able to exit whereas I don't even think Spencer and Heidi

would ever want to exit they like being public figures but they also like being rich right so they're probably just like well Lauren doesn't have it that good it's only 40 million right but like they've also been really open about the fact how like they made a ton of money after the hills and then they went almost broke because they spent like millions of dollars on crystals right so i think that like money and fame are so equally important to them and they're like shook by lauren who so happily gave up the fame and also with that fame could have been more money it could have been 400 million but like for lauren having a normal life a husband kids and 40 million dollars was enough for her you know what i also i just don't agree with the idea that she could have been a billionaire because

like from the Hills, we have two successful household brand names and that's Lauren and Kristen. And I think Kristen has done everything right also, while also not shying away from the line. And she did very Cavallari like, and she's always, you know, out putting herself out there and her Instagram is like, you know, she an influencer. And she ended up with 30 million. Okay, I have a question. So when you say Lauren, I mean, Kristen's success,

do you mean fame or money? Both. Okay, because the elephant in the room is that doesn't a large part of Kristen Cavallari's net worth come from her husband? So if we're just talking about business. Okay, let's say... Because she said Kristen's the richest one, which might be true because of Jay.

Got it. Okay, but let's just take Jay out of it. Like, I think Kristen has done so many things right when it comes to her business. And when it comes to fame. Right. And still the cap would be max 30 million. Right. I think Heidi's overestimating the ubiquitous popularity of this show.

Yes. Especially as we move further away from the initial show. Right. I'm sure for them it feels like this was like everything. And for us it was everything. And for a certain section of the population, like, we loved The Hills. Yeah. But most people, like, the majority of people.

Grown people. Didn't. Well, also, another thing that she spoke about in the interview, which did find really interesting was um I haven't re-watched the hills and of course I'm so team Elsie like it's in my blood but I do think if I re-watched it like I might have like a more mature perspective like okay you didn't like Spencer like did you have to write off and I do think in a lot of ways like Spencer and Heidi were given the short end of the stick and she does talk about her relationship with Elsie how like at times Elsie treated her like a dog like because Elsie brought her on the

show and that means she had to like sing for her supper and like do whatever Lauren wanted which is like not the way a friendship works so I do think that that part of the interview was really interesting and I do have like a lot of grace I think for Spencer and Heidi because I do feel like they were painted as these villains on a show that was somewhat scripted that now like in hindsight it was such a big deal like they moved into their apartment like they didn't like kill anyone like they just like had a toxic relationship but now the proof is in the pudding like was it toxic they've been married for over 10 years yeah so I do feel like that's a really interesting part of the conversation too but I think naturally she's probably bitter I would be too like you get painted as a villain and Lauren gets to like

get this perfect life and they're still you know doing reboots of the hills yeah and Lauren doesn't have to do that right but it's like Heidi I think in truth like it's it's nice that Lauren doesn't have to do that but Heidi's almost faulting her for not working harder. Yes. But it's not about work. It's about fame. Yeah, no, and it's just about, like, what kind of life you want to have, you know? No, and by the way. Because you can live an amazing, like, the most amazing life if you are worth $40 million.

And to not have to deal with the mental health element of being famous, it's brilliant. A win-win. Most people aren't big enough to see it that way. They're like, okay, I could be 500 million and I just have to do more red carpets and go here and there and do interviews and put myself out there and like open myself up

to all this criticism. Most people wouldn't make the choice that Lauren made. Most people wouldn't make the choice to leave fame behind when you have fame so good. It's easy to not want to be famous anymore when you're Spencer and Heidi and everyone hates you. Imagine making the choice to leave the limelight when you are universally beloved. Yeah.

Can't relate. Can't relate. That's the crazy part of this whole thing. Like I could have understood if we never heard from Spencer and Heidi ever again after The Hills. They were scarred by the fame, by the scrutiny, by the criticism. And Lauren went on to have a million other shows. But for Lauren to have made the decision to walk away from fame when she literally had every opportunity laying at her feet that's

the crazy part yeah and that's like the admirable part yeah so I love Spencer and Heidi and I don't fault them for thinking how they think because they must be in a lot of ways traumatized like from that experience yeah but I don't agree with this call at all and justice for calls justice for calls and justice for 40 million dollars yeah like it's a lot and also your net worth does not mean how much money you have in the bank so she probably is right I don't think I right but also like I don't know if anybody's googled net worth is accurate no mine says like 250,000 dollars is that It's not. Are you ready for our next story? They also say I weigh 140 pounds which is accurate. Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Olivia Rodrigo clears up

tawdry driver's license love triangle rumors. Yes she's been making a lot of waves in like recent interviews. She was on Variety and she was on. Yes this is from Variety's Power of Young Hollywood issue. She touched upon the situation that followed after listeners heard her song Driver's License. Many fans believe that the lyrics were about the alleged relationship between her and her high school musical The Musical The Series

co-star Joshua Bassett and Sabrina Carpenter. The lyrics in question said, quote, And you're probably with that blonde girl Who always made me doubt She's so much older than me She's everything I'm insecure about.

Where is my triangle? Your triangle is on the table because I had to move it for redheads. I wanted to protect the triangle. It goes like this. She's everything I'm insecure about. Yet today I drove through the suburbs. Yeah. Because how...

Yeah. Oh my gosh, thank you. our triangles have entered the building cuz how could I ever love someone else and I know we weren't perfect but I've never felt this. For no one. Oh, and I just can't imagine how you could be so okay now that I'm gone. Okay. Get to it. Okay, continue because I actually have thoughts. This is what she said. She explained saying, quote, I put it out not knowing it would get that reaction. So it was really strange when it did. I just remember everyone being so weird and speculative about stuff they had no idea about. I don't really subscribe to

hating other women because of boys. I think that's so stupid and I really resent that narrative that was being tossed around. Okay I have a lot to say because first of all of course she didn't know the song was going to blow up in the way that it did. There was no way for her to know that. Agreed. And I do agree that we are so beyond the narrative of women hating women for stealing their boyfriends, for sure. But I think the Miss Olivia needs to take a smidgen of responsibility here because first of all, if it's not about this situation,

which it was so, like the picture was painted so clear for us. So if it wasn't, I do feel as though she did not want thing to stop this narrative if that was really the case. And if this wasn't about Sabrina Carpenter and literally people descended upon Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo did nothing, that's even worse. Yeah. And she really does like Sabrina.

So she's alluding to maybe here that like the the fans got the narrative wrong and I don't think that we did I don't think that we did either and if we did someone could have cleared that up a while ago as she should have you think I do think she never expected this song to go where it did and even if the song became mildly popular like I bet like her best hope for the song I mean it definitely exceeded every expectation that she could have had or dreamed of but even if the song became a little popular no one was going to be digging into the lyrics and like finding stuff out yeah so it's I mean it's possible that we got it wrong and that Sabrina Carpenter unjustly like received like the tail end of teenage angst but that's almost worse if that's the case because that

would mean Olivia Rodrigo did nothing to stop the unnecessary bullying of Sabrina Carpenter that I don't I don't know what's worse I just don't think we got it wrong I think maybe here she's trying to say that like we missed not we the message I have no part in this you you people that you missed the message and like it's more so about this boy that broke her heart not about the girl not the girl that he's with now but I think that of all the emotions that came out of the fans after this song I would say 95% were directed at Joshua Bassett and like 5% were like Sabrina Carpenter being the blonde girl yeah I do think that like okay if we're talking about driver's license yes if we're talking about driver's license, yes. If we're talking about deja vu, like, that song was really mean.

Like, so good. No, that song was really mean, like. So good. But it's just, like, it's a mean song to Sabrina. Yeah. It's a worse song to Sabrina than it is to Joshua. Yeah, well, she's pretty much calling him, like, a phony, but she's also saying to Sabrina, like. Like, your whole relationship is fake.

Like, I did it all first. I had your man first. I fucked him first. Like, yeah, like, it's really taunting him, you know? Yeah. So I don't know. I am kind of like disappointed in this response. But then Sabrina's song Skin is also a little bit like,

and I'm fucking him now. Right. Well, it was a rebuttal. It was a rebuttal. I love that song. I'm just saying devil's advocate. I just want to say, I love every song that has come out of this situation.

We're so spoiled with good music. Yeah. And but I just do wonder like how Sabrina's doing. I think she's probably doing well. Are they together? Are they together? That's the question. I don't know.

It's just the craziest situation. Teenage love story. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Our next three stories are some casting news that you guys just have to know about. Okay, so should I intro the casting news brought to you by... Movement? Yeah, you really should.

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She'll be great in that. We all saw that picture of the back. Yeah, she'll be great. I'm so excited to watch that. Me too. So she's going to be amazing. And this is just like a really exciting time for Beanie. Everything's coming up Beanie.

Everything's coming up Beanie. Of course, when this news was released, people were kind of quaking for Lea Michele. Because first of all, I just have to say, like, I'm really glad that they chose someone who's Jewish. Like, it's just an important part of the role. And I'm very grateful to the Broadway producers. So everyone was kind of like, you know, if there ever was going to be a Broadway revival, it's actually a storyline on Glee. There finally is a Funny Girl revival on Broadway.

And of course, Lea Michele goes out for the part in the show. And her whole, you know, being is inspired by Barbra Streisand. She never gets her nose job because Barbra Streisand never did. And so when I think like modern barbra streisand i do think leah michelle do you i didn't have that thought i was mostly just thinking of you oh that's so nice because that song um don't rain on my parade is just like claudia's party trick and by the way don't rain on my parade um leah michelle sings in the first season of glee and it's like a show stopping when i sing don sing Don't Rain on My Prairie I actually sing the Glee version like yeah it's so good so a lot of people were

talking about this like why didn't she get the part what do you think why didn't she get the part well I do think she's been enraptured in a little bit of scandal over the last couple years and I don't think people you know want to be associated with that as of the reading thing no she had like her whole drama what was the drama she was accused of right of like bullying of bullying and like tart like targeting a lot of the poc oh my god yes i totally forgot about and then like her sponsors dropped her and then she kind of went off and she's kind of like off the record not off the radar off the radar she's releasing an album but she's much living a much more low-key life okay i completely I completely forgot. Yes. So I think that's one reason.

I don't, I mean, honestly, this is news I'm very interested in because I do wish they did some sort of open casting call because my ass would have went. I wouldn't have gotten the part because I have no formal training, but I would have went just for the story. And I would have logged it for Patreon. But, but, I have a lot of hope for Beanie.'m excited for her she does have a broadway background i do think that's important i think she's jewish i think that's also important she has the look you know but we've never heard i've never heard her sing i have she sings on ben platt's instagram

all the time okay but yeah yeah she's like classically trained you know? But I just want to say one caveat. I do think that it's important when casting a Fanny Bryce to cast someone who gives off Fanny Bryce energy, FBE. And I do not think Beanie Feldstein, I never would have chosen her for this role. Like, I never even would have thought of her as a Fanny Bryce energy kind of gal. Lea Michele obviously comes to mind with the Fanny Bryce energy. She's radiating it throughout her body. So that's what I'll say. Like I just I'm excited blah blah yeah but I don't know if she gives off FBE but I will be going to opening night. Alternatively in thinking about it I don't know everything that constitutes FBE but when I think back to like having watched the movie and like you know Barbra Streisand's character, she was like pretty quirky and like awkward

and like all of these things. But also like extroverted and like rambunctious. Right. But I do think the 2021 version of that is Beanie Feldstein. I'm not interested in a 2021 version. No. Funny Girl is like needs to be. No, but like that quirky, not like other girls type of thing

I think it's Beanie I mean I just feel like you I just feel like you're not Beanie's biggest fan what do you mean no I love I mean first of all she's could have been related to Ruthie so that's one thing that I really I'm a huge Beanie Feldstein fan like I loved her in Booksmart even though her character was so fucking annoying. No I am. I am. I'm just like I'm very protective of this particular role.

Okay. And it's such an honor and I guess like part of me yes part of me Is jealous. No. Well yeah obviously but no part of me is like

thinks it should have been Lea Michele. Like wholeheartedly. Like it's it's so the fact that like the internet Lea Michele was trending all day yesterday. The fact that like the internet leah michelle was trending all day

yesterday the fact that this news came out and people immediately associated leah michelle with it is why leah michelle should get the role yeah do you know what i mean i do know what you there's such an association between leah michelle and fanny bryce slash barbara streisand she herself said personally like she when she was in high school she never got a no job you know all that shit like yeah i don't know i just think that's what I'm saying by the Fanny Bryce energy like an association like I never when I think Fanny Bryce I don't think Beanie Felt seen I'm sure that doesn't mean she's not going to be great but just like for the culture I do I would have liked to have seen Lea Michele okay is there anyone else that you would have liked to have seen

I have to think about it because it has to be someone. And I know, I'm sorry, I do think it should be someone Jewish. I just do think that. I think it's an important quirk to have for the quirky role. And obviously, I mean, brunette doesn't matter. I don't know. I have to think about it because there's so many great actresses. But you also have to have a Broadway background.

You can't just, like, stumble into a Broadway show. Especially not as the lead. And not one like this that is so storied. Yeah. So it has to be someone. Honestly, Jessica Vosk would have been great. Just saying. I don't think she's Jewish, but still.

You think she has Fanny Bryce energy? Yes. Like a hundred percent. Okay. Okay. Just a thought. Okay. Thank you for your thoughts.

Are you ready for our next story, which is a bit of casting nose? Mm-hmm. Nose. That's apt as well. Titus Burgess has been cast as Rooster in NBC's upcoming Annie Live special. Okay, you guys. I have been following the casting of Annie Live. This is what we have so far.

Yes, thank you. That's what I was going to ask. Let's take it from the top. We announced Taraji P. Henson as Miss Hannigan. Ten out of ten. We have Harry Connick Jr., Daddy Warbucks. So good. What I recently found out that we haven't spoken about yet is Nicole Scherzinger will be playing Grace.

Who's Grace? The assistant to Daddy Warbucks who he falls in love with at the end. I like her. I like Nicole Scherzinger. You don't like her? No, that's the first kind of dent in the Really?

In the casting. I think she'll be so great just like dancing up on Daddy Warbucks. I know. I just find her like really thirsty. Like on another level

of thirst. Okay. And like I don't know this is like a wholesome family show. I think it's gonna have a lot of pizzazz. By the way

I'm open to my opinion being changed, but off the bat, that doesn't give me like the apt casting butterflies. Okay. I feel you, but it wasn't a total miss for me, which is like what I'm trying to avoid, you know? Okay. Okay. So now we have Titus playing Rooster, who's Miss Hannigan's brother, who's, you know, involved in the plan to snatch Annie. It's actually, you know, Annie, I look back on that show, like, not show, the movie,

very fondly, but it's actually like a story of abduction. Like, it's actually, it's really dark. That final scene where Annie's climbing

up that telephone pole, like, trying not to get her feet snatched by Rooster, like, that is the shit nightmares are made of.

No, 100%. And I can't believe as kids we used to be like, it's a hard knock. And like Annie's in the back of a telephone pole getting abducted. No, it's like, it's a hard knock life. Yeah, we're living with an alcoholic who's so emotionally abusive towards us. Right, no.

And like, and her brother, creepy brother's like always trying to like grab us. Yeah. No, Annie is actually like a really dark story. It is, but with such a happy ending. And such a good soundtrack. Yeah. No, Annie is actually like a really dark story. It is, but with such a happy ending. And such a good soundtrack. Yeah. What's your favorite song from Annie?

There are so many. There are so many. Bet your bottom dollar that. Tomorrow's fantastic, but I also love Easy Street. Yes. Easy Street. And that's what. That was a sexy little

like shoulder... It's a sexy song that sister and brother Hannigan sing. The movie also has incest. Do it again. Easy Street. Shoulder. Easy Street. I'm too cool, too

cool for Easy Street. And then too cool, too cool for easy street. And then also when Annie sings maybe, like talking about how maybe she'll meet her parents. Maybe he's rich. So good. So good. Maybe he'll make me a pocket or a home. And then also the reboots have really good, not even just the Sia one. Opportunity.

And also, and you're never fully dressed without a smile. And Sia did a reboot of that's a cover of that song I actually never really sat down and thought about how many good songs of course the sun will come out tomorrow and hard knock life always come to mind but I forgot about maybe I oh my god so many the you're never fully dressed I think I'm gonna like it here wow you know what what is the original Annie? Like this. The one that we watched.

Yeah, that kid is fucking cute. Yeah. Where is she now? I don't know. She's, I don't know. Still traumatized from that telephone pole scene. I know I was as a kid. Yeah.

No, that was crazy stuff. But Punjab to the rescue. Wait, okay. Can you give me her name? That little Annie. I'm like kind of obsessed with her. Okay. But now like searching Annie original cast. actually, hopefully I'll get the...

And that dress. That dress should be in the museum. That dress is iconic. But then also, there... Have they cast Annie yet? No, they haven't cast Annie. And that's what's going to make or break. Okay, the original Annie, her name was Aileen Quinn, and now she's 50 years old.

Wow, I feel old. But, hold on. There was another annie the one with kathy excuse me yes and that annie was mad cute too and then they also have let's go to the movies by the way let's you know that you missed a major claudia what the craziest news has just surfaced what the Kathy Bates Annie is who I need to confirm I need to confirm Claudia I need to confirm with my sources because it could be the craziest what crossover we've ever seen can we also just really quickly last time we were

casting Annie for the the live we said that that redhead girl from um Stranger Things would be great if she was younger and I just want to say I found out afterwards that she actually did play like Annie on Broadway or off Broadway okay what is the news you're freaking me out the news is that the person who played Annie in the Kathy Bates version her name is Alicia Morton but tell, but tell me that's not Alicia Witt from the Hallmark Channel. But her name is Alicia Morton. Right. So I feel like maybe they used the wrong picture or something.

They definitely used the wrong picture. They're tripping me up. You're telling me that the Hallmark girl was Annie? No way. There's no way. The time doesn't make sense because that woman's like 40 and Annie wasn't 35 years ago.

The. Kathy Bates version. It might have been it was a long time it was like from the 90s hold on but there's Alicia Witt Alicia Morton they're two different people okay you guys this is a conspiracy I think Google might have mixed up their photos because I'm like really quaking the movie was from 1999 yeah so that's 20 plus years ago so she's not 27 no it's not I'm. I need to figure this out for myself. Let's check her IMDB.

Was she in The Christmas Switch? No. What was it? Very Merry Mix-Up. No. Okay, forget it. I wanted that to be, I wanted that for you.

Oh my gosh, that was a lot. That was really a lot for me. Okay, but so back to who plays Annie is that, I don't think that there's any child actor out right now who, it'll have to be someone new. Wait, this previous Annie, re-watch it is so star-studded we know Kathy Bates plays Miss Hannigan Victor Garber plays Daddy Warbucks iconic Alan Cumming plays Rooster I believe Kristen Chenoweth plays I think Rooster's girlfriend Lily Saint something oh my god Lily Saint something.

Oh my God. Sarah Hyland plays Molly. Stop. The other orphan. Audra McDonald plays Grace. You guys, we have to rewatch this. So I wonder when I reference the Annie that I watched as a kid, I wonder if it's the original or if it's Victor Garber's. We really watched both.

Can I see the Annie from 1999? Yes. Annie's such a great story. That's what I'm saying. It's so layered. Gotta listen to the soundtrack. This was the Annie from 1999. Oh, God.

They took me to Amazon. Oh, my gosh. It's so hard to find Annie. You know. Annie Facts. I need to start a website called AnnieFacts.com. Okay, that poster is really bad. Photoshop. Oh, my God. Wait. Victor Garber was bald.Facts.com. Okay that poster is really bad. Oh my god wait um Victor Garber was bald I forgot. Yeah. I feel like the one that I watched is the original like I remember

her being like a curly haired little. We watched both they were really so different and that and that one she's like talking to FDR the president like sing to him and then in this one is when they go to the movies and they have the tap dancing for let's go to. We should really just kind of do like a back to back. Like Annie marathon. Original Annie. 1999 Annie. Quvenzhanay Walls Annie. Just to get ready for the live Annie.

Right. I don't know when live Annie is coming. And I just. I'm sure whoever they cast as Annie is going to be someone that we don't know. I hope. Yeah it should be. Right. Because there's no one out there right now.

It has to be a natural redhead. I'm sorry. I think that it should be a redhead still. Yeah. No. Like Annie. I'm sorry. I think that it should be a redhead still. Yeah, no, like Annie. I'm available. No, but I was going to say, if you weren't listening to me because you were on your Alicia Witt journey. Guys, there's a conspiracy.

They're the same person. Is that when we look back at like photos of you as a kid, like you really, really, really could have played Annie. Like you had the hair, like you had everything. Do you feel resentful at all that you didn't? No, not for one moment yeah i've enjoyed my life up until this point you also i wouldn't change a thing no offense wow okay well it's a movie so they could have done voiceover that's true okay so that's your

news for the day as always we will keep you posted i can't believe i didn't know about nicole scherzinger i know that that casting news just slipped through the cracks. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? It's the casting news we've all been waiting for. It's the final story! Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do Oh my God, the screens on YouTube have been flipping back and forth so quickly. Amazing. Amazing. Big and final story is the casting news

that we have all been waiting for. The question of the year, who will replace Alex Trebek, has been answered. Mike Richards has been named the new permanent Jeopardy host, and Claudia's favorite person, Mayim Bialikik has been tapped to host a spinoff series Oh

Jeopardy executive producer Mike Richards was announced as the permanent host of the syndicated game show on Wednesday about nine months after the death of longtime host Alex Trebek Additionally Mayim Bialik has been tapped to host Jeopardy primetime and spinoff series including the just announced Jeopardy! Primetime and spinoff series, including the just-announced Jeopardy! National College Championship, an all-new tournament which will air in primetime on ABC in 2022. So Miami Bialik's just doing the spinoff and Mike Richards... Yeah, for like the college. Yeah.

And Mike Richards is the new Alex Trebek. There's no more like... Who? It's Aaron Rodgers one day and it's... Ken Jennings. Ken Jennings the next. So let's talk about this because I never would have... He was not even on my

radar first of all. Right. But I have to say I do think this is actually a good selection. I'm usually there's so much hype for this and people are always disappointed but we have been really kind of analyzing what it takes to be the next Alex Trebek and I actually think weirdly like the answer was right in front of us you know. I feel I definitely had less invested in this decision than you did but I feel really at peace with this choice. Like I really like that it's someone who just like Alex Trebek will will be known for Jeopardy period. And only Jeopardy.

And even his career up until this point has been so Jeopardy focused. I just this is my first time seeing a picture of him. He's very handsome. Very handsome. I also think that like his very close relationship with Alex Trebek is a lovely sentiment moving forward I think he understands tv I think he knows how to read a teleprompter like I think that no better person could have been chosen honestly which is crazy like which is crazy I mean it's the job a

million girls would kill for and it's a it's really like a beautiful ending to this kind of story and it's a full circle moment yeah I agree and it's just like it was also like the answer the announcement was very low-key like at first it was so much hype but of course as time moves on people move on and now I just feel like we'll slowly just start to move into the age of Mike Richards. Yeah, he said it in a statement, I'm deeply honored to have the opportunity to host the syndicated version of Jeopardy. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined being chosen to step into a role of this magnitude.

I'm incredibly humbled to step behind the lectern and will work tirelessly to make sure our brilliant contestants shine in each and every episode. That's true. It's about the contestants. The host is just sort of the engine, but it's not about a razzle-dazzle host. That's why these celebrity episodes were somewhat flawed

because, of course, you're watching a celebrity. Aaron Rodgers, you answer the question. What do you know about history? That's the exciting part, but it's not about the host. And that's why the formula for who would have made the perfect Jeopardy host is so delicate because you have to be like interesting and smart but not too interesting yeah and just like and and be have charisma and charm and magnitude but also be able to kind of fade into the background yeah and that's on being a host yes but now hosting is so much about being

a celebrity yeah but I like that Jeopardy is sticking to its laurels and it's gonna remain pretty similar yeah I think this is actually like I would I don't know if they're they could have chosen someone better and I was really kind of pro Ken Jennings just because it's like a beautiful story you know yeah like you you get so far and that's a reward for like having been the best in the game but I just think personability wise, he was not it. It didn't happen for him. You know, I like that it's they threw us a curveball. Yeah.

And it's it's amazing. And I hope that everyone is as universally pleased as I am, because I really think this was just amazing. And the answer was right in front of us the whole time. Yeah. Also, for Mayim Bialik, she has a Ph.D. in neuroscience. Yes. And she's from Big Bang Theory, which is like a show about science.

Like science and like things like that. Nerds. Yeah. Sorry. I didn't want to be mean. No, nerds. I think they're like. They're proud nerds.

Yeah, I think so. But again, I've never watched. It's the worst show of all time. So even that side dish of a casting works for me. Yeah, me too. No. And I think of all the celebrity hosts that came in, Mayim was my favorite just because she has that background.

Like, it's an honor. You know, you have to earn the academic background to, I think it's great. I just think it's great. Yeah, I agree. So we're three for three on AptCasting News today, and that feels really good. You know what else feels really good?

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least some of them we have coping mechanisms like relief band um okay Real Housewives of Beverly Hills we wrapped up our trip to Palm Springs and the ladies headed back to LA but not before seeing a tawdry expose in the LA Times which of course is a big deal but I think like as a lawyer in LA it's like the biggest deal ever right so I just want to say I watched all the episodes that we haven't recapped I watched them all yesterday so they are all kind of like one for me yeah we haven't discussed like the car accident oh you're so behind it was turned we haven't we haven't discussed it like the whole trajectory of Erica's I want to say performance on this trip yeah but I think regardless of whether or not she's guilty or innocent she has to treat this

as a performance you know what I mean like and I do think that that's where Sutton is going with what she's trying to say which is like I think we're being used as and like this could be like part of evidence in a court hearing so yes I was feeling really conflicted last night about the Sutton thing because part of me like hates people who just like leave you like the second things get tough. But I don't know, Sutton was spitting facts. And like I think it's really, really hard to prove that Erica didn't know anything. Like, I think, you know, the odds are that she definitely knew what was going on.

She had $20 million in her bank account. Right, and I'm glad we finally got to that part. Me too, because now I feel like we're caught up. We're caught up, because that was, for us, the big bombshell in Housewife and the Hustler. I guess we missed this LA Times article. Right. But that's the part that really doesn't add up, is the $20 million to EJ Global. Now the women are asking the same question so we are all caught up I mean I'm so

thankful for Sutton's presence just because it seems like she understands the most about this case just like about money yeah things in general money spousal hides of money if the devil himself puts money in your bank account you're responsible for it right and so Sutton is just coming like right like Meghan King Edmonds like yes ready to ask prepared in combination with Garcelle who I think is asking like the questions that we all want to know so let's talk about the Garcelle thing I actually really felt so fucking bad for her horrible because I believe Crystal when she says like you were not around when she told us not to bring it up I was kind of interested in why Garcelle brought it up three times after like she was really like trying to I don't know what her intention was behind bringing it up so many times but I don't think she intentionally betrayed Erica's trust no I don't think she intentionally

betrayed Erica's trust I do think the reaction was a lot but sometimes it's the thing that sets you off and then you can't come back from it which I I wasn't Jackie I was gonna when I was watching I was like I'm gonna I was preparing what I was gonna say today I'm like you know you never know what's gonna set you off whatever she's going through a tough time but no but my only fault with the whole scene I have no fault with Garcelle I even have no fault with Erica she's a mess she has She has a lot going on. Is Lisa Rinna? Is Lisa Rinna. Who was literally so excited that Garcelle slipped up. Yeah. That she said something that she shouldn't have.

That the way that Lisa Rinna is going about it. Sitting there in her coat. Like. And acting if what. Like I hate that this happened. Like I hate that. Like. Like.

I. It. Was so. Annoyed. Bothersome. Me too. And did you watch Watch What Happens Live last night? She was on. Lisa. No. What'd you say? Lisa and Gary Gennetti. And if you watch, watch what happens live last night, she was on.

Lisa, know what you're saying. Lisa and Gary Gennetti. And Andy, the first question he asked, which was, which is what everyone's saying and what I keep thinking is like, where is the energy that you brought to Denise, that you brought to Munch Housing, that, you know, we need, we're on a show. We need to ask the questions. It's going to come up, blah, blah, blah. And she was like, one, she was like, you know, I tried to learn from my behavior last season

and then. Liar. Right. And that's not, you know, I tried to learn from my behavior last season. And then. Liar. Right. And that's not, you know, what I'm going to do again. And two, do I have to put this show on my back, Andy? There's eight other women. Like, but so we, but someone asked a question and you just literally made her feel so horrible about it.

Oh my God. I literally cannot stand. I cannot stand. No, but the thing is, I was going to say, it's like, you never know what's going to set you off. I don't think it was really what Garcelle did. I just think it was like a lot. was going to say it's like you never know what's going to set you off I don't think it was really what Garcelle did I just think it was like a lot but then when I think of this whole journey her

performance on the show I think the timing is so interesting because she got off a clemt and then she left and went home or else she would have been around the women when that LA Times article came out or the article came out really early in the morning she would have been at her hotel and she wouldn't have shown up for the day I think either way it would have been fine no I just think like a lot of what her overreaction with Garcelle had to do with was her needing to get out of there as well interesting you have a heads up when an article that big's coming out about you they reach out for comments I guess I mean it is really convenient that she left right before I think she would have left anyway like I don't think she was ever discussing that article on the day it dropped with the girls no but I think the fact that she was you know a hundred miles away was intentional

yeah yeah and see like Lisa Rinna and I you know I respect you being a good friend but like Lisa Rinna when they all get to Denise's house no not Denise sorry uh Dorit's house for Denise justice for Denise when they all get to Dorit's house she Justice for Denise. Justice for Denise. When they all get to Dorit's house she's like yeah I spoke to Erica this morning like she that should have been filmed you know like she is really really protecting Erica and like love love a good friend but like at what cost. Yeah I I do go back and forth like if this is your best friend and you obviously like believe her believe her then you should have her back but not just without asking like a few basic questions considering the crimes that they're being accused of are so atrocious that's why I feel like the

person who I believe is handling this in the most ethical way while also trying to be a good friend is Kyle like Kyle's asking like 20 million dollars like's a, it's a fair fucking question. Like up until this point, it's always been like, excuse me. The narrative is like, how could Tom have brought Erica into this? And now it's like, wait, was Erica already there?

And so it's, it's a very fair question that our friends are asking. And I feel like Sutton's the one being like the most realistic about it. Cause like, what the fuck does she owe Erica? She met her last year. Like she's a woman who obviously cares about her reputation. She's like,

I don't want to be associated with this shit. Like, Oh, and Lisa said the meanest thing on watch what happens live. She said, um, you know, so there's something came up about like Sutton,

not wanting to like associate whatever. And she was like, I mean, I have businesses and I would still want to like, you know, be around Erica. Like Sutton doesn't, it's not like she has a business that she has to.

And, and he was like, what about the store? She's like, sure. She has a store, but like, she has to and and he was like what about the store she's like sure she has a store but like what businesses does Lisa I guess like Lisa and the dusters and beauty that's as much of a business as Sutton's retail store I just want to say yeah anyways she was just like doing so much so it seems like there's somewhat of a divide in the group and that's what Garcelle was saying she's like okay you told me this intimate piece of information and I'm not even a part of your inner circle.

And there is this inner circle of Lisa, Erica, Kyle, Dorit, and it's Teddy. They call themselves like the Fab Five. Like there is this inner circle of women. So I can understand Garcelle bringing up something private. Like if Garcelle knows, all the other women must know. I'm not even really that close with Erica. So I don't feel like Garcelle had any bad intentions and I felt really bad for her. Like it was just like a terrible moment.

But I just did kind of think it was weird how many times she brought that up oh I thought but she just brought it up once and then she brought it up twice how before the women sat down on the couch and after oh she brought it up twice so it was just like weird like why keep bringing it up I guess yeah that is a little funky but I do find this whole like inner circle thing to be really interesting and definitely true like all those women who were in the inner circle thing to be really interesting and definitely true like all those women who were in the inner circle were just on that boat with Teddy like singing it's expensive to be me like there is this and I kind of feel like I'm leaning more towards being on the side of like Crystal Garcelle and Sutton me too where it's just like it's black and white

like did you do this shit or not like yeah but if you they don't not friends with Erica they don't owe her anything right but if you were to believe for some reason that she didn't, then wouldn't you have her back? Yeah. But facts are facts like 20 million dollars. Yeah. I'm just like ever since you pointed this thing out, like I cannot watch the show without getting infuriated.

Like where's the energy? Where's the Denise energy? Where's the Denise energy for kissing someone? For actual crimes that were committed. Not something personal about your sexuality. Denise energy for kissing someone. For actual crimes that were committed. Not something personal about your sexuality.

Like you had so much energy to out Denise as being bisexual, which is so unethical, by the way, and made her like into such a villain. But there's no energy just to kind of ask the difficult questions to your friend Erica about whether or not she took money from burn victims. I will say. Orphans and widows. I will say that they haven't seen Erica since they found that out.

That's true. We haven't. So she's coming. No, but this whole time it's been orphans and widows. No, but this whole time, it was just like before we. Knew about the $20 million. No, no, no.

Not even that. There was a time when she was getting divorced where there's legal drama with Tom. There's always legal drama with Tom. Is Erica complicit? That we didn't know that these were like crimes with the most vulnerable victims. And I think. You think it's a white.

That's what. Right. And I think up until this point they were like okay. You're getting a divorce from a very powerful man who's also embroiled in legal drama. Like a very just tough situation. And then the article dropped where they put everything together. And it's like it's bad bad and very very sad and they have not seen her since so I'm just gonna give them and it looks like next week when they have this like dinner party um it looks like people start asking

questions so that's what I'm waiting for but up until this point it wasn't as nefarious as we know now that it is. I guess like how we move forward will be very telling, but also knowing what we know now, we know that Dorit, Kyle, no, yeah, Dorit, Kyle, and Lisa all like are standing with Erica. Right, so whatever has transpired, they've chosen to believe her.

I just wonder, you know, let's watch them ask the questions. Okay, that's fair. And maybe the way that Erica has convinced them or shown to them that she's will convince us will convince us too yeah because I guess at this point in the show they've all read the article which has all the information that was in the most recent documentary so we know exactly what the women know right now and moving forward it will be more interesting because up until this point it was like tom tom tom yeah and it was just likeica is going through a divorce that's very sad yeah but what erica's actually going through is much more serious okay um also love island was on last night and it was just the

episode where people meet their families and it was all over zoom and it was so incredibly boring and it was just like awkward and weird the only kind of interesting thing was literally the episode was so like the whole thing was like meet the family commercial and the last couple was obviously will and kira will is just like acting like he's actually kind of sociopathic like acting like everything's fine like wasn't even embarrassed to like meet the family of a girl he cheated on like it was so sociopathic and then he got up to leave and she spoke to her family and her dad was like we honestly really did not want to come on here and like do this but you know we wanted to support you wanted to see you her sister was crying kira was crying they were like just saying they don't trust will and like this whole time they're having, we wanted to support you. We wanted to see you. Her sister was crying. Kira was crying. They were like just saying

they don't trust Will. And like this whole time they're having this conversation, the editors are so shady. They're splicing up Will recapping his conversation with his family and Kira's family

with Andre in the kitchen. He's like, Kira's so happy. I'm so happy. Cut to Kira crying. Oh, so amazing. Kira's family loves me. I love Kira's family.

My dad told her to come to our house in Medellin. Cut to Kira crying. Then she finally hangs up with her family. He's still talking about how happy they are. She's like, she literally hides under the stairs and is hysterically crying. Cut to Will in the kitchen. Oh, we're so happy together. It's going to be so good. And she did have, she had a conversation with him. She was like, I want to know, like, what are your intentions? Like, we don't have to be boyfriend and girlfriend right now, get married, have kids. Like, are you ready to like have a

committed relationship? Like when we leave here, if you go to a bar, like we don't have to put a label on it. But like if we go to a bar and somebody asks if you have a girlfriend, like you're going to say no. Like, and he was just like, slow, slow, slow, let's slow it down. So really a lot of red flags. And it looks like tonight he sits Trina down for a conversation. Kind of remember how he like sat Shannon down and put all the blame. Oh, Kira's having skeptical thoughts.

It must be because of you, Shannon. Now he's putting it on Trina. And I draw the fucking line at Trina. and Trina's like are you fucking kidding me like so I think although it's very difficult to pinpoint what it is about Will that's weird it's becoming a lot more clear what that is amazing I mean sad but like I'm glad that we're getting clarity so now it's like who's gonna win is it Olivia and Corey or is it Andre and Trina if Olivia and Corey win I will never watch the show again I know I would want Andre and Trina win I would have Alana and Charlie Charlie win I think if Jeremy and Bailey win it's it's not good

either yeah okay but I just have to say like I'm really in tune with the Love Island USA like team um on Reddit I've been reading a lot and like they are all voting for Trina and Andre because they just think Trina is a queen who deserves justice I 100% agree and they think like this should be the first season where one person wins like the money because Andre just got here and Trina's been like just right it could just be one person but wouldn't wouldn't Andre have to say he would have to say split and Trina would have to say keep right in order for Trina to keep it yeah but he could say keep and Trina could say keep and then what happens either of them get it if if he said keep he would be the most hated man in America but then

he and then he would have nothing to show for it if he said yeah yeah he doesn't he can only say split if but I don't see Trina saying keep because like. She should. I'm sorry. Like she, no, no, you're worth Trina. That's really true. I didn't realize they could intentionally make it so that just the one most deserving queen wins. And do you think that like people who are in couples like are having those conversations? Like if we win, what are we going to do? Do you think they're allowed to like.

I think they're allowed to. I think those conversations must happen. Yeah. Because like Will and Kira probably up until this point thought they were winning and they were just like making plans like let's split or Will was gonna steal from Kira yeah like maybe that's what he was doing he's in this perfect couple he doesn't want shit out of the house right but he's about to win a hundred thousand dollars for himself because he knows Kira would say split I always keep forgetting about the money like that that's what this show is about it's really a weird wrench that they throw into it

and I do feel like it should be more than $100,000. I don't know, but if you, it's like, it's an interesting amount. Because it's like if just one person wins that amount of money, like that's amazing. But if you split it after taxes, it's like 30 grand. It's pretty selfless to split it. Like you have to really love that person. Like I love you more than $50,000. Oh, Josh and Shannon did an Instagram live with Cinco and Cash. And then Giovanni joined and Sean Shannon and Josh were just like all over each other like

they're like a legit ass couple we love to see it and they should be able to win yeah no but I'm going for Trina oh yeah me too I don't know when we vote so if the finale's on Sunday we probably vote on Friday yeah it'll be very exciting that's so crazy but the episode I'm not gonna lie like was really boring seeing people talk through a screen it's just like it's not gonna cut it like the show has been so premium up until that point like we're better than that like if you can't fly them out just forget it yeah especially when no one's in a couple except for Will and Kira like I'm sure that was really she probably was so awkward she probably needed to speak to her family though she probably feels like so stupid confused and just lonely yeah especially because like I think her really good friends were Shannon and Kache and

like Olivia and Trina are being there for her because they're obviously the OGs but I don't think it's like a really true friendship yeah I agree and I'm just like not the more episodes we watch the less I'm buying what Olivia is selling thank you yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. So tonight Love Island is on but like I'm going out so I'll probably You are? Yeah I have a cocktail party.

Oh my gosh. Cocktails? Yeah. That's so cool. What's the plan? Where are we going? Sure. It's Ben's friend Jack's birthday.

Oh fun. And it's a cocktail party? Yeah. I mean the invitation said cocktail which I thought Cocktail attire? No like cocktail. Like it actually just said mean, the invitation said cocktail, which I thought was really... Cocktail attire? No, like cocktail. Like, it actually just said cocktail on the invitation.

Like, we're having cocktails, which is such, like, an adult thing. But I guess he is, like, turning 30, so... So cocktails it is. Cocktails it is. Cool. Next stop, retirement home. So that's where I'll be. So I probably won't recap Love Island unless, like, I happen to, like, have a lame night,

get home early. But I just don't see that for myself. I don't see that for you. And you deserve a fun night. And I think we'll probably get, like, a hangover episode tomorrow. Okay. That's always don't see that for myself. I don't see that for you. And you deserve a fun night. And I think we'll probably get like a hangover episode tomorrow. Okay. That's always fun for a Friday. I think I'm going to bring Brew tomorrow.

Because every day this week I've wanted to bring him, but like I've had something afterwards. Okay. I won't bring Theo. And I just, you guys have to see Brew. It's been so long. He's such an amazing. He's so big.

He's such an amazing little boy. And his birthday's in three days. Oh my God. And you know what today is? It's a four year anniversary of me bringing Theo home. Wow. My time hop showed me like me and Ben at the airport picking him up. It was August 12th.

Are you sure? Yeah. That's crazy. Because and then I remember our wedding was a month later. And we sent him to like some camp for two weeks. It was the hardest two weeks of my life. Oh my gosh. So you guys.

I mean I don't want to make false promises. But I don't know why I might not bring Brew. Like unless he says mom I don't want to make false promises, but I don't know why I might not bring Brew unless he says, Mom, I don't want to go. No, but you're definitely going to bring him. I won't bring Theo

and I'll be here with open arms for his auntie waiting for him. Oh my gosh. You guys are going to, you haven't seen Brew like this in all the time

that you've known Brew. Like he's a brand new man. Brew, like you've never seen him before. He's a brand new man. Like he's so incredible. I'm a brand new Brew. We should get rid

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