The Toast - S4 Ep149: Love Island's Shannon and Josh on The Morning Toast: Friday, August 20th 2021

Episode Date: August 20, 2021

Shannon St. Clair and Josh Goldstein join Claudia on The Morning Toast to discuss this season of Love Island, their current relationship and what they thought about all of the drama that went down. The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Friday, you guys. I am so excited. This is, first of all, like the best day of my life. We are celebrating the end of the week. It's Friday, and I am here doing a solo, very Oprah Winfrey of me, talking to two of the most important people in mine and Jackie's life right now. It's Janine. Or Shosh. How do you prefer to be? I like Janine. She likes Shosh. I like Janine. I do. It just works. Okay, you guys are here in studio. First of all, thank you so much for being here. How do you prefer to be? I like Jan and she likes Shaw. I like Jan and I do. Yeah. It just works. Okay.

You guys are here in studio. First of all, thank you so much for being here. Like this is just, we've been nonstop talking about you guys for like the last month. This is my first go around on the Love Island journey and you guys really made it so worthwhile. So thank you so much for doing that. Thank you. Thank you so much for having us. Honestly, we're huge fans.

This has been like a crazy month for you guys, obviously. And I actually, like so many people in my dms I don't know how everyone knows anything they did spoil for me like the night before you guys left that you were leaving and I just like that was the most wild turn of events first of all how are you doing like how's your family I'm really like that's such a hard thing to go through yeah it's been a lot obviously the last couple weeks you know just with everything coming off the show and then especially what had happened and why we had to leave um you know under the circumstances my family's holding up okay obviously you know when you transition out of a show like this you have

everything that's going on with that and then you know i also have you know the traumatic loss of my sister in the same exact um equation right there so it's been like happy and sad at the same time. And it's kind of hard to balance those emotions. Right. It's like an unbelievable high and like an earth shattering low. Exactly. It's like one of the worst things you can go through. And then one of the best things you can go through all together at the same time. So I think under the circumstances we're holding up though. Okay. That's good. Yeah. And honestly, I think a lot of people were really moved by the fact that you left with Josh, just because, you know, you guys were really strong on the show, but you know, the show is a show everyone's just because, you know, you guys were really strong on the show. But, you know, the show is a show. Everyone thinks like, you know, what's actually

going on. So can you talk a little bit about like how and when and why you made that decision to go with him? Yeah, it really wasn't even like a second thought. Josh got the terrible news and said, you know, I need Shannon here with me right now. They pulled me. Josh explained what happened. And his family was nice enough to say, you know, if Shannon's comfortable, we would love for her to fly back with you. So I was just glad that it was an option for me because I've never met his family. You know, we don't know how we're portrayed on the outside. Right. I have no idea what was aired and what was not. So the fact that they let me go and fly back with Josh was huge for me. I was not going to stay in that villa.

No. I was going to come right back with Josh. Like, me and Josh had already talked, like, before, saying, like, if I were to go home or he were to go home, like, we were going to leave together. Of course. Because we found what we were looking for at that point. And obviously I just wanted to be there for Josh.

It's such a hard time. Like something like that I couldn't even imagine going through. So I just wanted to be there with him and help him through it. And just like we were all so glad. Like it was such a, we feel so invested watching the show. And you're like, oh my God, what? And it's such a crazy feeling to invested watching the show and you're like oh my god what and it's such a such a crazy feeling to watch a reality show that's happening in real time right because we're used to watching reality shows where like all this shit happened eight

months ago so you just feel even more invested in the journey and i think for a lot of people who were very invested in your relationship we all felt you know at peace knowing that you were going to be there for josh it was just it it was really, it was very moving. Thank you. Yeah, it wasn't even a second thought. Yeah, she's been amazing throughout the whole thing. Like, obviously, she came back with me. She didn't have to do that. And then she probably met a million people,

like extended family, friends, people that we don't even know. And she's just been absolutely amazing throughout the entire thing. So she's been my rock the last couple of weeks for sure. Oh, so you guys are still together. Yeah, if you didn't know. I have a question. Actually, I have for sure oh so you guys are still together yeah if you didn't if you didn't know i have a question i've actually i have so many questions for you guys one about

the show and like the drama but also about the logistics because you guys are actively posting on social media but it's not you guys even though you have phones the phones are for the island and there's someone back home running your instagrams yes yes i definitely want to start here so my friend i have to give her a shout out alex Kelleher. She was running my Instagram back home, one of my good friends. She is a huge toaster. Like she's the one who is literally crying that we were going to get on this show. Oh my God, you should have brought her. Yeah, I know, right?

I know. So she would hate me if I didn't give her a shout out. So Alex Kelleher was running my Instagram. Huge toaster. She's awesome. So yeah. So did you choose people or the show chose? How does that work

no i chose she actually does social media for like her job right so and we're all good friends as a kid you mind like running my socials while i'm gone she like took it she wanted to do it she was like i don't even want money nothing like that so do you have to have someone running your social or you could choose not to post yeah i think jeremy and cory. Oh, Jeremy's Instagram. Have you seen it? Does he lift? I don't know. It's literally only shirtless mirror pictures. It's so weird.

Now that he's like a public figure, somebody has to help him. Oh my God. Somebody should have been running his Instagram. A hundred percent. I just had my sister run mine. And I paid her for it because she's also on social media. You just said something really interesting when you were saying how like you didn't know how Josh's family like what they saw right so when you're in the villa obviously you're there to have fun you're really there to

connect but are you like worried all the time about like how you're coming off like did you have anxiety about that I had anxiety the entire time right um I feel like you're just sober all the time but you block out like I literally would block out during the challenges. I would block out during any recoupling ceremony. Like I don't even remember what I said. But we just know going into it that they're, you know, production is going to cut and edit any way that they want. So you're there for, you know, a month now. We were there.

Obviously, something's going to come up. Of course. And, of course, that one bad thing or that one day where you're really tired, like, we don't get any sleep in the villa. Yeah. So that's obviously going to be with the air because it's dramatic and it makes TV. Right.

I don't think I was, like, anxious or nervous while we were in there, but then once we came out and then we started watching, the first two episodes and I was like that didn't happen like that right so it was giving me anxiety like that because I didn't know when you're in there I'm just like oh I'm just gonna be me go with the flow but like when you actually see how it's all mashed together it's like for the most part it's all there yeah you know like we know what goes on behind the scenes and like the conversations that we have and other people have so it's kind of interesting to see how it shakes out like that yeah so funny at what point after you left the villa after you got your phones back like did you guys realize like you were really like the winners

like i'm we're all i'm very deep on love island reddit like i'm very invested in this whole journey you guys were winning until you had to go home right when did no idea like at what point did you know like oh people loved us like we were a fan favorite well we kind of assumed once we had a couple like america votes and we weren't in the bottom yeah we didn't know if we were the top but we were just like okay america likes us a little bit and then we didn't realize what it was until we came out right and we got all the support has been absolutely amazing um the outpour people we don't even know it's been crazy but we didn't know it was like that until we got out, so it was pretty cool to see.

Yeah. I also, I just like how the support's from literally all around the world, like India, you name it. That's crazy. People in our DMs commenting, like, love from Canada and all these different places. It's just, it's amazing that people actually like who we are as, like, authentic people. We went on the show saying,

well, we're just going to leave it all out on the table. Take it or leave it. Like, this is how we are. You can't like we went on the show saying well we're just gonna leave it all out on the table yeah take it or leave it like this is how we are you can't just go on a tv show and pretend like you're somebody that you're not it's reality i think that's why we got along honestly yeah we were just like being ourselves like not really caring not trying to fake nothing now in the beginning when you had to do that step forward thing like was that as awkward as it felt for us like it was so painful like when nobody stepped forward for like half the guys like i really like if that was me i would have left like i would have been so offended well i was crapping my pants because i had watched the previous seasons and

once i found out i was going to be the first one out there i knew that no one steps forward for the first person i was like i'm gonna be embarrassed on national television first day here we go and then i walked out and i literally couldn't stop looking at shannon and luckily three girls stepped forward and she stepped forward. Who else stepped forward? Kira and Trina. Damn, that's so crazy. I have so many thoughts.

Okay, we're going to get into all of them, but I need to stick to my questions because I'm going to forget. Okay, when you guys left the show, did you watch the episodes? Obviously you were busy, but did you keep up at all? We honestly haven't even really dove into a lot of the episodes. We watched the first couple. Obviously after, you know, a week went by, we had a lot going on. We watched The Hideaway.

Your Hideaway? Yeah. Yeah, I watched it. We had to. Yeah, I heard a lot of feedback from The Hideaway. For us? I thought this was a CBS show. I didn't know what Paramount Plus was, baby.

Oh, was there more on Paramount Plus? I did not know what Paramount Plus was. Gotta check it out. Or not. Everyone check it out yeah everyone everyone check it out or don't okay so you guys didn't really keep up but there was a lot of once you guys left and cash and sinko left i do feel like for me like the show was over um but we were left with like these couples and i just have so many thoughts on all of them and i would love to hear your guys's thoughts on the people who eventually won which is Olivia and Corey like we very much here at the morning toast like take the stand we agree with the whole narrative that like Olivia is an actress

and like not for one second does she like Corey and Corey's so in love with her and it's so sad and he should have taken the money for himself what do you guys think that's a mouthful right there um I don't know I can speak on our behalf and say that you know Corey and Olivia were two of our good friends in there. And like what you see on TV is literally them off camera. So from our perspective, I think they genuinely do like each other. And obviously that's from being inside and talking to them and hang out with them and living with them. But I do think that it wasn't fake. I think some of the best relationships do start as friendships.

And they were kind of there. They were always good good friends but they never had like a romantic relationship and i think that as guys started coming in or especially casa i think is where olivia realized and you can speak more about that where like cory was it for her okay like she was talking about him at casa more yeah because casa more we basically were saying like okay olivia like this is your time to shine she was like guys like i think i really like c. And we were like, what? What are you talking about? Your friend, Corey? Like, but the best relationships start out as friendships.

And that's what we were saying. And like, even like, I FaceTimed Olivia yesterday and she was like, she's into Corey. And she said it to me on the FaceTime. She was like, so into Corey. There was like, I guess, I don't know if I could spell a little bit. Do it. there was like I guess I don't know if I could spell a little bit do it T I guess there was like a girl that was like back at home watching Cory's dog so I guess she's just a friend I'm not sure I mean she had the keys so she got the keys I'm dying I'm dying

no I'm telling you there's something not right there I just we know it the fans know it she really likes Cory I don't know if that's her type right there. I just, we know it. Liv really likes, she really likes Corey. I don't know if that's her type outside of the villa. She didn't describe it like that. But, okay. Well, I have another question for you guys. Since so many of us were just like really up in arms towards the end. We're like, why are we watching this?

Like, bring back Shannon. Hashtag, where is Shannon? Did production ever reach back out to you about like coming back? Like, cause you would have won. Yeah, no, they honestly didn't. We were in contact with them, all the executive producers, everybody involved with the show. They kept reaching out to me to make sure I was okay. That's really nice.

The support from the show has been amazing. They sent like flowers. Yeah. Like, so nice. Yeah. Multiple different people sent flowers from, from the production and it was just unbelievable. They never once asked if we could come back, but they were just making sure we were okay. We got back.

Okay. Okay. You know, if we need anything, they were awesome in that sense, but no, they never asked if we want to go back on the show. I think it's like kind of a fine line right there.

Yeah. And I don't know if that was in our contract. Like if you leave the villa, if there is so much, also with COVID, I'm sure it would have just been too much. Yeah. Plus like the status with Josh, they weren't probably like, Hey, can we actually get you back here? Right. right there was so much also with covid i'm sure it would have just been too much yeah plus like the status with josh they weren't probably like hey can we actually get you

right and it was there was only like 10 or 11 days left of filming right so it was close to the end so it's like by the time you know me and my family got together we were mourning we had my sisters wake and then if we really did want to go back there'd only be like three days two two three days left of filming so it didn't really make any sense. Yeah. And it's a lot of traveling to torture. I'm sure. Yeah.

Okay. Let's dive into another controversial hot topic. And that's the will and Kira of it all. Because aside from you guys, they were like the longest lasting couple, but there's just been so much weirdness. And the reason why I asked you if you had watched a show afterwards was because he had like a similar confrontation with Trina that he did with

you. Obviously it wasn't as like dramatic, but honestly I was so supporting you. I was like, everyone's like, Shanna took it too far. I'm like, she didn't take it far enough. Like I have so many questions about Will and Kira, but I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the conversation where he had with Trina,

where he called her manipulative just because she was expressing concerns to Kira. So I, we did not watch, but we did see clips and then Trina actually talked to me about that so she did film me in a little bit like kind of like all right yeah with the will thing like he called me manipulative and I was like wait what what are you talking about clearly I did not watch that episode we're still catching up right um but I think that you know like I said people's true colors really do come out you can only put on a fake happy face for so long and then if your true colors do come out and then it's like okay well maybe that was just like a one-time thing maybe they're you know you always give them the benefit

of the doubt and then when it keeps happening it's like okay that's actually who you are on the outside right you cannot hide it on on camera as much as you try to so when me and Jackie were recapping the show it was very clear that there was something about Will that made people not trust him yeah and it was this kind of thing we couldn't put our fingers on and I'm wondering if you guys can explain like why did so many people have reservations about Will what was he doing or saying that made you kind of wary of him from from a guy's perspective and I think some of the girls had said this to me was like I mean even from day one when we had a conversation about him I mean he was one of my good friends in there but also there was something and I think I said it on camera I was like there's something I

don't trust about him um and I don't know if that's true or not but he would just sort of look at every girl and you know kind of talk to every girl like they were his girl. Yeah. And I think that's what rubbed some of them the wrong way was like, obviously, I was friends with all the girls, but I wouldn't treat all the girls how I would treat Shannon. That's just not, you know, right at all. So I think he would sort of, you know, lead some girls on and flirt with some girls. And that's just from their perspective telling me. But I think maybe that's why.

I don't know. I just feel like I'm a very like powerful, strong woman. Like I come off very, tell it how it is. And you can tell that like some men do not like that. They don't want that in their life. They want somebody that's a little more submissive or like they're just different. And I think I kind of saw that in Will and got so frustrated because Kira is one of my good friends

and she is such a strong woman, but like she needs like a strong man to bring that out of her, not like kind of, and I don't want to say that because we're really good friends with Will and Kira now that the show's like over and everything.

And that was obviously just with the drama, but yeah. Did your fight with will hurt your relationship with kara at all yeah it did um there was some things that will said to me off camera that were not allowed to be aired no way yeah and i'm not allowed to talk about them wow but it did involve you know hr and it just was not hr yeah uh so where's hr in the villa are they in a different house they're just called then i think i'm not even sure yeah interesting but that's why it looked like i was like stop talking to me stop talking to me right right right because of the

things that he said that they weren't allowed to air um made me look like i completely popped off right which watching the episode back, I was like, okay, so I'm the crazy bitch. I didn't even think he popped off so hard. I'm like, you should have went harder. Like, he needed to hear that. He was just, like, coasting around doing whatever the fuck he wanted.

Yeah. Acting like a dick. And somebody had to put him in his place, and Jonan was the one to do it. We were joking around the entire show, saying, oh, it's Will Island, it's not Love Island. Because he would just do or say whatever he wanted. That's how he would treat it.

And it's like, no, sit down. Yeah. There's other people here. We're just living in it. But they're still together, correct? Yeah. Have they watched the episodes? I don't know.

They haven't. Do you guys feel weird watching the episodes? Yes. Yeah, right? I don't even watch my own podcast. We figured we wanted to watch them together, especially the tough moments. The beginning. Yeah.

But after a while, you guys were just coasting and being funny. Yeah. Yeah. Those episodes are fun to watch yeah for sure um and the other thing about will and kira is this obviously everyone's wondering about this conspiracy theory that they knew each other before the show i've heard on the instagram lives amy and wes who are so bitter and i'm with them like they should have been there they were a great couple they're obviously very bitter that they got sent home and they're just like saying that you know kira knew where the house was she knew who everyone was like she got the 411 on everything and i don't know if i believed it but then in the final episode i don't know if you guys caught this they were just talking about how this journey's been so crazy and like how wild it is

that they live 15 minutes from each other but they never knew each other which is just like you live 15 like it's just a little too coincidental yeah so what do you guys know i don't even know if we know for sure and because we didn't have access to our phones we didn't even know that was a rumor going around inside the villa so until right after because it's not like hey did you guys know each other somebody said that on the outside yeah we have no idea what y'all are saying about us while we're in there wasn't it like leslie's grandmother that yeah when she came into the show and like you guys were at casa she hadn't mentioned it to us and we were like wait what she's like

yeah my grandmother did some digging and yeah they liked each other's pictures from like months ago that was on like reddit and like these blogs and i guess grandma leslie read the blogs told leslie leslie came in with the info but there's no way of knowing if those rumors are true exactly i mean i could i could see them knowing each other totally i could see that just we haven't talked to them about it also you know how like when you follow people and like you just like their pictures but you don't actually know who they are yeah but how are they following each other just from social media i know that happens that's way too ironic it's too much i agree with you but it could happen it could i'll give them the benefit of the doubt yeah like the pope accidentally liked one of that girl the porn stars instagram no yeah complete accident complete accident right um okay who are you guys closest with from the villa

in terms of friendship um i would say cash for sure for me um we just have like the same kind of personality vibe where like we bounce off of each other and like we brought things into the villa like our singing and the singing yes everything that we do with our friends back at home I was like wait I do that she was like no I do that and I was like well we do that well the thing is is like what I loved about the show when I was first like starting it was like of course it's fun the drama but like there really isn't that much drama it's just fun to see female friendship and you guys are like so funny singing and dancing and it was like the best part and then when you left there was like such a hole and then right after cash left and i was like oh this is not

gonna cut it like all of the personality the singing the dancing you guys were being so funny that magic was gone and it was really hard to watch after you guys left not to like blow so much smoke up your ass but i am telling the truth i. I'm telling the truth. I really appreciate hearing that. And what do you guys think about Cash and Cinco? Like, I like it. They're like together, right?

Love them. Love them. Love them. Yes, they are together. We're going to see them right after this. Yeah. Because they are here.

I think Cinco was just, he was just confused. Like it was always Cash. Yeah. I think it was just, his judgment was a little clouded. And we both kept making like the wrong decisions. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. It was like wrong place, They both kept making like the wrong decisions. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It was very sad. It was like wrong place, right person, wrong place, wrong time. At least they figured it out though. Let's really quickly talk about the Jenny of it all because that was like a really painful couple episodes that she appeared in. And it was just so weird because you knew her.

And I'm just going to assume that you guys are still not on good terms from what I've seen on social media. We are not. I'm just going to leave it at that. Yeah. I hate talking about Jenny because it just gives her more clout. Moving on. People like Leslie and, you know, Fenevieve, they came out of the show and were just like really vocal about how like they got bad edits.

Like, oh, you didn't see this and you didn't see that. You didn't get to see my personality. I love philanthropy. Like they just were very open. Yeah, we all didn't get good edits. What are you talking about? So my question for you is like, what are your thoughts overall

on how you were quote unquote edited? I think that, you know, early on, and you know, they can take bits and pieces of whatever. Like we sometimes had 30, 40 minute conversations and they can only have an hour of filming. You have 24 hours of filming all day. So I get it, you know? But I think that no matter who you are, like Shannon said before, had 30, 40 minute conversations and they can only have an hour of filming. You have 24 hours of filming all day. Yeah. So I get it, you know?

But I think that no matter who you are, like Shannon said before, your true colors are gonna show. If you're just you the entire time, they can't edit you a certain way because you're not letting them. Yeah. So like after a while.

You kind of came off like a douchebag, like the whole 80 thing. Kind of, but not really. Yeah. The lifeguard challenge, like that never really happened. Oh, that was really fucked up. That was really fucked up that was

really fucked up thank you for bringing that up i was so upset at you did it actually happen so mad at him we saw these fans yeah it did actually happen but that's it was so fucking uncool josh like no it wasn't him it was planned there was there was a lot that i can't talk about but i'll just leave it at that i was so upset with you like i was like this is not you're jewish right goldberg goldstein goldstein same thing i'm half i like to tell people i'm like this is not my jewish king there's no way he would do that to shannon oh my god very uncool no i agree i i felt bad and i apologized to her afterwards but you know what there's a lot there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes i'm sure of people don't know about. I'm sure. I'm sure. I know what you're saying. Okay, now, I want

to quickly segue into a section that I'm calling logistics, because I have so many questions about logistically what it's like to live in a house on an island on a TV show. So just, I'm going to rattle them off, and you let me know what it was like. Towards the end of the show, I really felt like a lot of people were getting sick of each other, and like, everyone was just like, I cannot wait to get the fuck out of here.

Did you guys experience that at all? Fatigue? Villa fatigue? Yes. You're just constantly drained, exhausted, sweaty. Sweaty. Let's talk about that. Did it rain every single day? Every single day.

Pretty much. I think it was like the third rainiest city in the world, I think. We had no idea. What part of Hawaii is it? Hilo. Hilo. The main island. It mostly rained at night, though.

The days weren't that bad. You got sun. Then as soon as the sun goes down it would just be like every like recoupling ceremony yeah people thought it was fake water no it was so annoying like you could tell every time you guys were sitting on those yellow couches that you were moving in from the rain because that part was covered and our hair and makeup like hello you did your own yes interesting did that room have air conditioning yeah does the whole house have air conditioning no just the bedroom the dressing rooms that's it so is that why everyone's like always sitting in the dressing room yeah yeah our dressing room because it was downstairs it was so

cold we would literally just nap down there all the time because it was so cold yeah the bedroom would be sweaty oh that was that's another great question sweaty in the bedroom yeah sometimes the air didn't work in the bedroom and there's 15 people sleeping in there and we're all kissing each other and we're all like hot ac gonna work and what how many days does it take you to get accustomed like i cannot sleep like around other people like i'm very self-conscious of like myself how many days does it take for you to get comfortable like just to actually fall asleep instead of like being awake the whole time like hoping you don't like fart or something. I think the first night nobody slept.

That's just cause new environment, a lot of people. Um, but I'm pretty, I can like sleep anywhere. So like the second night I was completely fine. I slept like a baby. You're so tired.

It does not matter what environment you're in or how many people are, what they're doing around you. You're, you're hitting the pillow. You're going to bed. Really? Yeah. Okay.

You're drained. What about the groceries? You guys were always making fabulous meals. Who was filling up the fridge? That was production or people that work with the show. Like you would just ask for something and the next day it would be, yeah. A lot of people, like Amy was a chef. A lot of, like Giovanni would request a lot of foods he would like to cook, like spices and stuff like that. So they would just ask and, you know, obviously we're on an island, so sometimes it would take a couple of days, but it'd pretty much be there i requested frozen pizzas it didn't get them oh that sucks that's exactly what i would have requested yep didn't get and the whole kitchen's outside there's no indoor kitchen no no that's kind of like sucks like cooking the heat

it was cool though it was under shade it really wasn't that hot um now let's talk about the the daily schedule because it seems like every day you guys got dressed, worked out, then got ready for the day. Was the working out mandatory? Was it like a mandatory part of the day? Absolutely. Answer that, Shannon. I did not work out once. But everyone put on workout clothes right in the morning. They would say like bikinis or workout clothes.

So like I would just put my workout clothes on and just not work out. It looked so miserable. Oh my God, all the working out. Oh, another good question logistically. We woke up and Leslie was gone. First of all don't know you guys if you saw the episode they didn't say anything they were just like good morning leslie's gone moving on and i'm like wait what it was just so random because she was in the middle of a thing with cinco like we got no explanation and of course we found out later on like she was smoking pot or whatever um from your point of view did you wake

up and she was gone or you got to say bye you knew what happened we knew yeah and she packed her things we didn't get to say goodbye at all actually like we were chilling to say goodbye but we knew it during the pizza challenge remember i didn't you did she was like crying all day long it was like very she wasn't crying all day long she was very upset uh-huh something had happened and we were all like what is going on nobody knew and then we were the guys didn't really happened and we were all like what is going on nobody knew and then we were the guys didn't really know so we were chilling on the yellow couches and then production came out and was like so leslie's gone we didn't get to say goodbye though that's crazy

we're like is she gonna get sent home is she not like she's like in a bad mood all day like what's going on and it was because she smoked pot a vape well you don't have to say she already said it confirmed or denied of, of course. And I read somewhere, maybe it was one of your guys' Q&As or someone said there were no clocks. Like, you never knew what time it was. No clocks. That's crazy.

Yeah. It's like you're in a fake world. I would start, like, looking at the sun. I was like, all right, it's 12. It might be 2 o'clock. What time do you think you were going to bed and waking up? I know we were filming

until, like, 4 in the morning the one day because the producers were like, go to bed. It's 4 o'clock in the morning the one day because the producers were like go to bed it's four o'clock in the morning because they can't go to bed until we go to bed and where are you filming

like you're just sitting outside like whatever they need to air like some of the conversations after recoupling got it or stuff like that like the recoupling nights

definitely take the longest of course so I mean we don't know what time it was but it could have been like two three four in the morning something like that you have to stay

in your same hair makeup and outfit whether you're wet dry have pizza sauce all over you it does not matter

you will be in that outfit for two more hours after well speaking of the recoupling Jackie actually pointed something out when I first started watching the show she's like it's gonna bother you

and it bothered me so much and it's that the show refers to you guys as girls and boys when you guys are grown men and women or even girls and guys like they refers to you guys as girls and boys when you guys are grown men and women or even girls and guys like they never say but guys they only say boys i thought about that

too yeah we were and in your last most recent episode one of the last that you were on you did refer to them as guys and like it was a groundbreaking moment and we're just really grateful for that what the hell is that boys how old are you josh i have no idea what how old are you 24 you're not a boy okay i'm a grown-ass man no it's so it's so stupid and it bothers me so it's so bothersome does it bother you it is a little weird like i feel like we're little kids being babysat in school that's what it kind of feels like when you're in the villa like you're being babysat yeah don't get me wrong. It was an unbelievable experience. Of course.

It was awesome. That's not me shitting on the show. No, I'm just a negative person. I love what I like. So that's why I'm only asking negative questions. But I have a few more. Were there any actual physical like cameramen or was all cameras like hidden in the house and stuff?

Or were people following you around? The majority of the cameras, like the smaller ones, were just mounted everywhere. They had like 360. But there was like four or five like big cameras that you would have like your main conversations with and that was man made or man held yeah it was like there's like a whole perimeter that they would have around the villa is that just so weird like the cameras everywhere like yeah shower there's one shower one shower was shot to two shower heads. So two people.

Well, the girls would just all go in there at the same time. Well, that's not a big deal. But I saw like a scene with a couple guys in the shower. And I was like, are they sharing a shower? Yeah. I mean, I've played. Jeremy would always like follow Josh in the shower. No, he wouldn't.

Stop! No, he would not. By the way, I saw Jeremy and Florina hanging out. But like, what about Jeremy and Bailey? Because I voted for them. Actually, no, I voted for Charlie and Alana. Bailey will be here this weekend too. We're all. Is she? I'm pretty sure.? Because I voted for them. Actually, no, I voted for Charlie and Alana. Bailey will be here this weekend too.

Is she? I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I liked her. Are they still an item? Him and her and Jeremy? I actually do not know. I haven't asked. We're going to find out

right after this podcast. Let me know because they were, Florida and Jeremy were together. It was very confusing. Yeah, she flew in last night

to New York, I think. And Jeremy's from here. Yes. So like, Giovanni was there too, I think. What do you have to say

to the fact, you know, I'm not going to ask, you guys are going to trouble um where does ariel live does she stay in the villa she stays at the hotel the whole time or she goes back and forth she just pops she just pops in like when it's her time to dream job right yeah she has the best life she does she's amazing honestly what would she like stunning stunning even more beautiful in person which is hard to believe oh my god yeah she's awesome like when she came out in that cat

costume oh okay i go i'm packing my bags and i'm leaving if another blonde i was like can i was like arm around shannon when she came out i was like josh was like yeah sorry babe guys that night was the best episode of tv I'd probably ever seen. First of all, everyone was just so in their element. Like, Cinco and Cash were, like, really, like, just vibing. And, like, Olivia and Corey were finally, like, doing something. It was just the best episode. And then Arielle came and, like, everyone was like, is that a girl?

It was just the best episode. And then that's the night literally everyone went home. And it was just, like, so, it was the arc for me. Like, after that, things started to get bad. We have no idea when people are like going going home or when there's a recoupling they do not tell us we started to catch on we're like okay as soon as we're having one night with like so much fun people are gonna die like when you get a party yeah exactly we're like something something's gonna happen so um okay

my last question for you i just wrote this oh when you guys back, how many text messages did you have on your phone? I still haven't gone through all mine. Really? I have like 150 unread still. I'll get back to you guys, I promise. I had 4,000. That's crazy. Something like that.

So all in all, describe the experience. Obviously, you're glad you went. Incredible. I mean, really, the producers are so there for you. Like on the show, like they are like your family. You don't have your family and your real friends back at home

you cannot talk to anybody you cannot talk to your mom if you want to it's really hard so for them being there for us all the time really really I don't know what I would do

without you know if production wasn't there and like helpful and like kind or you felt like they were trying like in a lot of shows

they really set you up like they're not your friend yeah they could have totally turned against us and been like do this or do like whatever they were very also made sure that we were comfortable they were there for us they were really there for us they realize obviously we're real people and like we do have like our own lives yeah you can't like control everything that we do obviously we're adults so they were definitely there for us they want to

make sure we were okay you know mentally physically because it is a long, draining process. Is there a therapist on? There is. There has to be, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did you guys get, like, you have to get STD tested before you go? Yeah.

So many tests. So many tests. Background. How did you guys get scouted for the show? Instagram. That's a great question. No way. Yeah.

I love that. Everybody got sought after for the show. And actually, you know, things do come full circle because my sister signed me up behind my back for the show. And I was no way. And I was the only one. Oh, my God. I'm chill. Yeah.

It's crazy how this world works. Like I was the only one that actually applied to be on the show. And everybody was literally scouted. And, you know, I got on and, you know, everything comes full circle. And I met, you know, Shannon. So, oh, that's beautiful! Isn't that crazy? Oh my god I love that. That's really sweet. Thank you for

sharing that. Yeah of course. Well thank you guys for being here. I'm so America's just so obsessed. I'm so obsessed. You guys are so nice and fabulous and pretty in person. Like your eyes are so blue and you are just like so tan and stunning. Thank you! You guys just need to start posting more on Instagram. Like I'm always checking your Instagrams like you literally haven't posted in three days what is that we post a lot on our

stories yeah i know i mean i don't feed i came from like 2500 instagram followers so i'm still trying to like how many do you have now like 185 000 what do you have trying to get used to it um 250 000 is that crazy it is wild yeah so like we have to like actually think about what we're posting now yeah just like i don't have content really good content to post because the pictures getting them off the phone from the villa is so time consuming do you still have the villa phone with you you get it back when you leave i wish there's so many great photos that of josh and i that i really wanted to post my instagram and i don't have access to them oh that's so annoying were you not able to text them to yourself before you left i wish so those phones aren't connected to like

anything anything so it's only to take pictures and videos and they change the time and all that stuff in the day they do and the date and it was like halloween on his phone and like december on my phone yeah and when you guys are now just like laying in bed and someone texts you do you say i gotta text or you just say you just say, hey, I got a text. Oh, as soon as I- No, we scream it. As soon as I came home, there was probably like 100 people at my house and they made me, someone sent me a text.

So many people. Can you guys say it for me, please? Three, two, one. I got a text! Yes, that's a great way to go into the weekend. Thank you guys so much for being here. Follow them on Instagram. They're going to start posting.

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