The Toast - S4 Ep151: New Jacey: Tuesday, August 24th, 2021

Episode Date: August 24, 2021

Kacey Musgraves Announces New Album and Film Star-Crossed, Shares New Song: Listen (Pitchfork) Channing Tatum, Zoe Kravitz and another of his bikes get cozy in NYC (Page Six) Kanye West rebuilding childhood home for 'Donda' listening party (Page Six) Eating 1 hot dog takes 35 minutes off life, study suggests (NY Post) Instagram is retiring the swipe up (The Verge) Bachelor in Paradise Recap Dear Toasters Advice Segment The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Tuesday. Hey, Jax, how you durn? I'm durn good on this Tuesday. Not as good as I was durn yesterday because Brutado isn't here. And it was just so special. All day yesterday, I was just riding this high of, you know, brew in the studio. Relishing in all the positive energy. Yeah, and just like really feeling proud of my boy, you know? So today we have no brew, no dew. That's surprising. Mom's busy. Mom's busy. Okay. Oh yeah. You're going places after this. So we miss our boys really. Weed and boys and we making noise. Yeah. So other than that, I'm doing really well. Yesterday was a very busy, but productive day

for moi and can't complain me neither I mean I could but I won't I mean I could because it's still like it's a scorcher again so I'm wearing shorts but it's freezing in the studio so I'm wearing a blanket so I look like a schlub like you just can't win in August you can't there's no winning in August except the song August that's the only saving grace have you even listened to it in August of course I just even feel like it's not even the vibe by the way I totally listened to the first go around of Reverie yesterday because Margot texted me I don't know if she listened to the toast because she definitely didn't but she was like I'm begging you like you need to sit with

this album and I'm like okay so I was reading a book and I put it on the background and I honestly missed the whole thing because I was like in the book you know yeah no that reading and listening to music sounds like a good idea but it's really not unless it's an album you've already lived with like honestly I think evermore is the perfect reading album to listen to yeah but it just gets in the way get crossed you know so I finished people we meet on vacation yesterday and like you really didn't like it so I was like like, I know I'm not going to like it because we have very similar tastes. And you're always recommending books to me. And I actually like enjoyed it.

It was fine. It was like nothing crazy. It wasn't great. I don't think I'll continue taking book recommendations from TikTok because people like were hyping this book up like it was the last book on earth. And even though it was really sweet and there were moments I laughed and I was involved, I couldn't tell you what the point of the book was like literally it was just like a love like it I don't want to spoil it but like literally nothing happened yeah and so it was really long

and I was like okay waiting for the twist or waiting for something to happen and there's this whole thing like we don't talk about what happened on our trip in Croatia we don't talk about what happened and then at the end you find out what happened on their trip in Croatia and you really feel like you wasted six hours of your life. Like, you're like, this is what it's about. Still unclear why the book is called People We Meet on Vacation. Irrelevant to the subject matter. Somebody told me that the column she writes at her magazine is called People We Meet on Vacation. And if that's true, I missed that whole fact. And they missed that. Yeah. So I don I don't really like I just can't tell you

why what the point of the book is you're like the book wasn't that bad I kind of enjoyed it I laughed here and there and I'm like I really didn't like the book I wouldn't recommend it blah blah but we both have the same reason no we both gave it the same rating which is a three yeah I gave it a three I rated a three and you rated a three so like we just I guess our rating scales mean different things yeah because if something's really bad you you're going to give it a three. Well, yeah, this is my scale. One means I didn't finish it and I wouldn't even rate a book a one. I wouldn't rate a book that I didn't finish.

Two means I finished this book and it pained me every step of the way. I really didn't want to finish it. I just really got through it just to see what happened and didn't even make up for the time I spent on it. Rarely happens. Three, not great. Not bad. I read the book. Had moments of enjoyment, but not great. Four, really, really good. Enjoyed my time with this book. Five, will be telling all of my friends and family, everyone has to read this book.

I never wanted it to end. Good times. Okay, so mine is not that similar. I don't have ones or twos either because like there are plenty of books, we were liars. I started that probably would have been one, but I didn't finish it. So I don't grade it. So I really start with three and I don't have many threes. Threes is like this book sucks,

but it was finishable. Yeah. Finishable. So now that I think about it, it's like one, very bad. Two, bad. Three, meh. Four, good.

Five, very good. Okay, so for me, three is like not great, but finishable. Four is like so, so, so, so good. But like not, like listen, one little thing, you know? Because then when I compare it to my five star books, like I remember my, I feel like I've read a lot of four star books and I don't even remember them.

They were just like fun times. But then there are books that stick with you forever. Like Evelyn Hugo. Luckiest Girl. Luckiest Girl Alive. If we were the one, what's it called? but then there are books that stick with you forever like Evelyn Hugo um luckiest girl luckiest girl alive if we were the one what's it called if we before we were strangers no Colleen Hoover it ends with us um so there's a few that like stick with you forever and those are the five stars but for the most part like the books I read and I like are fours yeah same okay so we have

pretty much the same same scale so I just feel like nobody really needs to read People We Meet on Vacation. People We Meet on Vacation. Because first of all, she didn't meet anyone on vacation. Like, can't stress that enough. It's literally the opposite of that. Nope, they met in college. And two, it was just really long and pointless. But it was like a, I liked her writing style.

Did you read Beach Read by the same author? No, but I've heard that I need to. But now I'm feeling discouraged. It's good. Okay. And it's so so much better I read it last summer I really liked it which is why I even read People We Meet on Vacation okay which I feel like which is why people loved Beach Read People We Meet on Vacation was like very you know highly anticipated yeah I feel like it's the same thing for Malibu Rising no because Taylor Jenkins' read is like, has this whole world going on that she's like built. Sorry.

Did she write Daisy Jones? Yeah. Hated that book. Oh, I liked it, but I understand why you didn't. So that's the book news. That's the book news. I'm still reading my book, Rules of Civility, which I'm really enjoying. And I wanted to recommend another book to you.

Oh, but also we have to talk about the Morgan Library. The Morgan Library. I got a DM from them too. Oh my God. They reached out to me and I guess Claudia too, like saying if we wanted to come, come through. Like they'd love to set up like a tour. We've got to go.

They didn't say like anything about a tour to me. They were like- My message was a little longer than yours. Oh, interesting. What were they offering? I didn't read it because I just saw it. I don't know if we get to touch the Morgan Ladders. No, didn't allow it no no no I think that's forbidden no but I would love you know a private tour um but we should definitely go totally okay cool we'll set it up

the photos I'm so like every time I get a dm from someone like or something it's so exciting no no no that's like just like oh my god I'm so excited I screenshot it I send it to my family and then I forget to respond. Totally. Every single time. Every single, I haven't responded to the Morgan Library, even though like, why wouldn't I? Not the Morgan Library. Not the Morgan Ladders.

Oh, that sucks. Okay, yeah, we need to respond. But the other thing I wanted to say, the Morgan Library. Oh, did you watch Bachelor in Paradise? I did. I didn't. And I just feel so, even reading that not great book was better than watching that show. So I watched it.

I didn't mind last night's episode. But at the end of the episode, it became clear to me that it's perhaps going to be my that was my last episode that I watched. I'll give a little review. And actually, the drama of the episode, like it was actually pretty dramatic, dramatic. There was some tea and shit. But then like that was buttoned up. My favorite person went home.

Me too. And next week's I mean, sorry, tonight's episode. Again? Yeah, it's Monday and Tuesday. Tonight's episode, like, it looks like drama. The boys are, like, fighting. He's running through the sand. I, there was not one element of, like, tomorrow night that looked interesting to me at all.

So, I, and also, also, I mean, I'll wait till the recap. But at the rose ceremony ceremony there was only one person who it was like unclear who his rose was gonna go to everyone else like looks like they're about to get engaged wow so I just feel like it's all kind of done totally you know what I mean and like new guys are coming in and there's gonna be drama because like if someone invites you on a date even if you're vibing with someone else like you go on that date and if it's like a beautiful sunset horseback riding moment like you kiss on that date and it's not a big deal then you go home and you if you like the other person better then you go back to your person so I just feel like

everybody's gonna wind up with the same people I swear all these people are gonna get engaged fabulous yeah so I just like felt like the show is over well you'll have to explain to me like what happened because uh I just I couldn't do it I will explain to you what happened because I think you'll actually be interested in this particular drama. And that'll be in the TV recap segment. Yes. But I guess without further ado-do-do-do-do, where are you not here as we discussed very tragically, actually, that neither Dew nor Brew could attend today. Moment of silence for the ooze.

Just move on with the show. I can't because once I start thinking about these precious men. All right. Then I'll do it. Okay. Here are the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. Wow, that felt good.

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Enjoy, you guys. Start hydrating. You too, Missy. I know. I'm on it. Okay, first story. Some exciting music news. Kacey Musgraves announces

her new album and film, Starcrossed. She shared her new song as well as a lethal trailer for the album, visual album starring... It's like a movie. It's like, no, it seemed like different music videos for different songs. It said album and film. I don't know. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is, but Average what it is but average fashion blogger is in it

and that just made my day and the girl we were literally talking about yesterday from hacks the assistant Meg Salter Salter I think her name is oh oh the assistant yeah not the not the no not the girl okay because I was like Ava was her name right yeah no the assistant who we were just talking about I told you she's like an internet like thing got it I didn't even see her because I was just like so happy for Corny. Me too. Also we need to talk about the song. Yeah.

The visuals that we're seeing and then of course like the corny of it all. Let's start positive. Okay. The visuals are stunning. She has a very unique aesthetic. It's very Dime Store cowgirl rhinestone cowboy. Like it's it's so unique and it's so her and I really trust her vision when it comes to like aesthetics and outfits and it's the church and the rodeo like it's great her and I really trust her vision when it comes to like aesthetics and outfits.

And it's the church and the rodeo. Like it's great. But I did listen to the song. Me too. Star Crossed. And it's not my vibe. Okay. I like the song.

Obviously it's not a bop. I do think it's like the perfect. And it's also like not very long. It feels like sort of a prelude to the album. So I feel like and it's very even specific. Like yesterday I like sort of a prelude to the album so I feel like and it's very even specific like yesterday I signed the papers I gave you your name back you moved out of the house it's like you know there's no having to read between the lines here and I feel like she's setting us up for this era I feel like it's more so like um maybe like an educational

briefer than like I'm listening to this on the radio even though I found it to be like a very beautiful song but again like not a bop. It's not going to be, like, blasting through your speakers, but I just felt it was, it felt like a prelude to an album. Yeah, I guess the thing for me is that I take a lot of pride in being, like, a day one Kacey Musgraves stan, and I know in this family we have, you know we we disagree about like who invented but like I know for a hundred percent fact like I invented Kacey Musgraves in this family and I feel very protective over her and I think the reason why I initially connected with her was obviously I love country music and she had her own spin on country and it was so like every lyric was so poignant and it was

just so great and so different and so like never been done. And then with her most recent album, it really wasn't even that country, but it was, I was so on board with it and I loved it. And I just feel like she's just getting further and further away from that initial thing that I loved about her. And of course, she doesn't have to stay that because of me and people evolve and her styles evolve. But I just was really drawn to that. And this just is so different that I'm struggling yeah she's definitely leaning more into you know the alternative space oh yeah because that and I think that's really who she is she's also a dime store cowgirl and so that will always be like a part of her and her music but she's con every with every album she's like modernizing more and more I I think she has a

great sound no matter what she's doing and I just I think she's so talented that it's just interesting to see what she wants to do next you know I understand I recognize like it's not same trailer different park like no it's not days are over no and her first three albums were literally like just extensions of one another like same trailer different park which was so beautiful then um pageant material and then she'd made a Christmas album right so maybe it was just the first two albums that were like very much a continuation of one another like any of the songs were really like interchangeable um and I just loved that sound and I feel like I evolved with her through Golden Hour and Golden Hour is a miracle.

A masterpiece. It's so stunning. So I do trust her vision. I'm sure I'll end up liking it, but it just feels like a lot of change. You know me, I'm a creature of habit. Like I, it's hard. I understand.

It doesn't feel like that much change. It feels like a natural next step. But if you're waiting for Dimes for Cowgirl, yeah, I could imagine how it's like very stark. I think for like, no, I'm not saying that this is you, but like for bandwagon people who learned about KC from Golden Hour, I'm not saying, I'm not saying this is you. Okay. Like for people who learned about KC through Golden Hour because it was so successful and

then it went album of the year and she just like became so famous in that time. This probably feels like, you know, of course, but they don't know the real KC. Okay, so then how would you explain my POV? I've been there since. You're an open-minded person. Thank you. I've been there since. You're an open-minded person. Thank you. I'm admittedly not. Like I'm,

if something changed, like I've actually only recently discovered that I am the definition of a creature of habit. Like I order the same thing in for dinner every night. I have the same like

four meals in rotation. I really never cut my hair or do anything crazy. I use the same makeup every day. I wear the same, like I really am very change-averse. And I think that applies to my music as well. I'm learning so much about myself. Understood. Well, if you think about

it from Casey's point of view, she put out Dime Store Cowgirl pageant material. I'm sure she put her heart and soul into those albums, like her Nana's voicemails on it and everything. Literally. And like, it was just pretty much wholly ignored. And then she puts out Golden Hour and is like, has this new sound, this new vibe. And it's the toast of the town. So so like why wouldn't she do that again because it's just you know what it's this culture of people pretending like country music isn't good and i'm so sick of it and you know what if you are a casey stan and you don't know songs from same trail or different park or pageant material you my friend are fraudulent yeah that's rightulent. And I implore you to go do some research. Okay. Educate yourself. Do better. Okay. Well, this is what we have. I'm excited. I don't want to be

negative. I'm embracing it. I'm just, I'm having a hard time with change. I know. But like what, in what world did you expect what was coming next to sound like the first album no I knew we knew it was gonna be more golden than golden hour a hundred percent I knew that I knew that and you know I knew it but you're still disappointed I'm not disappointed at all I didn't like that song but not gonna like every song someone releases like it's just I'm nervous okay I'm conflict averse I'm a creature of habit let's talk about even more positives which is like obviously the aesthetics of the video like looks so sickening can't wait for all of that average fashion blogger makes a cameo as like some sort of bridezilla which was just such a treat for the viewers I literally screenshotted it and I sent it to you guys because she's like in this like insane like garb, like hairstyle garb.

And I'm like, is this corny? And you guys were like, I think so. I'm like, no, no, I think it's corny. And it is. Okay. So you sent that and I was like, what's that from? And you said new Jaycee. And I assumed.

Oh, I don't know how to type. And I assumed that it was like Jay like JC was like a TikTok like star or something that I just totally missed or whatever and then like an hour later an hour later I like went to listen to the new Casey and watch the video and I saw her I'm like oh this bitch meant new Casey I really have such I cannot type it's so bad and I think I've only recently learned it because we've been doing so much like text messaging about important things like ever since we launched Spritz, which by the way, Code Toast is 20% off.

And today's the last day because then tomorrow it goes to 10% for like the rest of our lives. So 20% off the variety pack. Code Toast. Spritzsociety.com slash toast. I meant to tell you guys that yesterday. I'm sorry. Today's the last day that the code is 20%. So get your variety packs.

Like enjoy them this weekend. Second to last weekend of summer. They'll ship that yesterday. I'm sorry. Today's the last day that the code is 20%. So get your variety packs. Like, enjoy them this weekend. Second to last weekend of summer. You gotta live it up. They'll ship really fast. Yeah. Okay. So what I was saying was, like, we've been texting so much in all these group chats with our agencies.

And, like, I've been realizing, like, the way you type is not okay. Like, with you guys, I'm always just like, asterisk, asterisk. No, like, Claudia sends a text. And then we're like, and now for the English version, please. I cannot type. And I've been doing diction a lot. But also, like, and now for the English version, please. I cannot type. And I've been doing diction a lot. But also, like, she fucks with me, too. Like, so I actually didn't even realize I said Jacey.

Yeah. And I didn't even question it. I was like, oh, I'm just old. And Jacey's like this new popping person on TikTok. I'm dying that you thought that. That's working with average fashion blogger. And then I was ready to watch a video for myself. And I was like, oh, new Kasey. Yeah. Sorry about that. That's totally my fault. Because, like, that's why I didn't have watch a video for myself. And I was like, oh, new Casey.

Yeah. Sorry about that. That's totally my fault. Cause like, that's why I didn't have a reaction in the chat. Cause I was like, I guess I just don't know Jay-Z. Oh my God. That's so. But I'm happy for Courtney. Me too.

By the way, she's so funny. I just like love when people who are nice and talented, like get what they deserve. A hundred percent. She's so the real deal. She's, if you don't, if you're the one person out there who doesn't follow her, like treat yourself. Treat yourself. She's just so hysterical and I'm so happy and I'm excited to see her her work me too and it's on Paramount Plus which is so interesting because I thought Casey was an Amazon Prime video girl you know with the whole Christmas special Paramount Plus

yeah is it out yet September 10th oh my god really so she's like really making a movie yes I'm so confused. Me too. Sure. I'll watch it. Yeah. She really does have like an amazing eye. Her Christmas special was so gorgeous. And that was totally like her POV.

Like it was like a kaleidoscope of Casey Masgraves. So I trust her. Yeah. No, I totally agree. Okay. Are you ready to switch gears a little bit to some new couple news? Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz have been spotted around NYC on another one of his bicycles how weird is this like so random but like they've been popping up a lot this week just like I guess it's like you

know when you go out with someone once and you just like can't stop seeing them and you just want to see him every day and ride his bicycle um and they're like having nice coffee and laughing and just being pretty fabulous and so at first I was like okay and now I'm like oh okay yeah oh that's literally a TikTok sound really oh my god oh my god you've got to get on TikTok Jackie like it's killing me like we are so simpatico and this is like the one thing we like you don't know what I'm saying any of the times. Okay. Also, I don't know if any of you who don't have TikTok have experienced this, but now when people send me TikToks over text,

I can't even watch them in Safari anymore. They've changed it. It's like a little bar and I can only open it by downloading the app. So they totally fucked me. They fucked you. Like literally yesterday, I made the best TikTok reference and it's just like slid it in on the show and you didn't even know. You know, it was good. I liked the beat. Like you don't even know what I'm saying and it's so frustrating here's the thing like the thing is the thing is I deleted TikTok a while ago and now it's like I already feel like I spend too much time on my

phone if I download TikTok that's adding at least two hours of screen time to my average screen time. It's so worth it though. It's not. It's just like I think it's healthiest for me to not be on TikTok. We'll reevaluate. Okay. I just it would be so much screen time. It's so exciting. And sometimes I'm on my phone like and I feel like I'm using my phone too much and I have nothing to even do so I'm like put it down bitch. But if I had something to do like I wouldn't put it down. Yeah but like you're the queen like sending around reels and I just want to let you know like for our brand you can't be doing that who do I send reels to me you literally sent me like three yesterday what are you referring to I only send reels when it's like cute cavaliers you send plenty of reels I just want to let you know it doesn't feel like that to me um what was the story oh chenning so I just

have to say. And Zoe. I know that you were like a really big fan of him and Jessie J. And I agree. And so like while I am mourning this couple. And I do think that this couple is super cute. I kind of feel like Zoe Kravitz is like a little too good for him. Yeah. No.

She is. He's like turning into a loser. First of all, he's, not to make this about age, he's 41. Like, which I didn't know. And she's 32. I feel like that's not bad into a loser first of all he's not to make this bad age he's 41 like which i didn't know and she's 32 that's not that's not no no it's but like he's like and he's just like so like corny like the magic mike and like he's like tacky and she's like cheesy cheesy yes but i love him and she is grace met gala she is like the coolest girl in the world yeah but you know that but that's also kind of what makes it cute and the fact that like i don't know what he usually dresses like in his personal life but he's clearly like trying to be cool to be cool it's like extremely sweet yeah so that's why at first I was like oh no but now I'm like oh no

I don't know I'm just feeling like my perception of Channing Tatum is constantly evolving and like I really like to live in a space where Channing Tatum is still like 19 and she's the man and like that's my nothing but respect for my Channing Tatum yeah um but then he moved into this like step up like Jenna Dewan phase, and he was totally irrelevant to me. Like, I never watched those movies, and, like, I just find, I found his dancing to be cringey.

Like, I did. I'm sorry. And then they were, like, the dancing couple, and it was just, like, I didn't really associate with them at all. And then when they broke up, I'm like, ooh, hot man's on the market.

And, like, the Jessie J of it all really was, like, a wonderful pairing. And now I just feel like he's kind of social climbing his way like back to the top. Because he is like irrelevant. Yeah, but he's also really successful. Like think of like 21 Drum Street and 22, you know? Yeah.

Like he's also really funny. And so I could just see him like at Thanksgiving with Zoe and Jason, Momoa. And Mama. And Mama and Lenny. And like, I really like that for him. Like he deserves happiness too. Yeah. And like Jenna Dwan has moved on every way.

Yeah. And so like, I'm happy to see, I don't think he's social climbing because I don't think, I don't think that would work for him if this were not genuine, but I think there's a genuine connection. Like he's making her laugh.

No, me too. I just feel like, come on Zoe, like we can do better. No, but like the heart wants what it wants. And the heart wants magic mind. And also like, I just don't feel like Channing Tatum should have to be such a hard sell for us. Like he's at one point in his life, like a heartthrob. Yeah, no, that's true.

That's true. And he does have a lot of success. So it's not like, so maybe he's not where he was, but like, you know, he's, he's got assets. It's's just crazy because like for me like zoe kravitz is one like one of if not the most eligible women in hollywood like she's so cool her family's so cool she's stunning she's like on every magazine like and like i don't know it just it's an interesting pairing that's what it is and I officially ship. Wow.

Doesn't take a lot for you. No, it doesn't. I love to see love. And I just like to see new couples. I just like to say, I'm just being negative. I do like them. I just think it's interesting. Yeah.

I'm not building a ship. Not yet. OK. I'm going to build a little ship. I don't know if this is a story. Because I like, I feel like no one cares, but Irina Shake and Kanye like broke up officially. Oh, I didn't even know. I thought that already happened.

I thought that already happened too. But our next story is about Kanye. So you can share your thoughts. Revealing Drake's address? No, it's about him rebuilding his childhood home for the Donda listening party. The rapper is rebuilding his childhood home in the middle of Chicago Soldier Field where he'll be playing his forthcoming album on Thursday, according to online photos snapped from inside the stadium.

He wiped his entire account over the weekend on Instagram and began uploading photos having only to do with Donda and kicked off with a photo of the home he once shared with his beloved late mother, who the album is named after. That's really cute. Really cute. So we're moving towards a Dda release date well i guess we're doing another donda listening party at a different stadium i wonder if he'll sleep there as well

yeah and then who knows who knows well the other thing i wanted to say was like so there's been this like weird drake kanye fight for a while um but kanye posted on instagram like a map of a it's like you know how you can look through your phone and see where you took a photo yeah and he had a photo of him playing basketball at Drake's house and it's like the map literally showing people where Drake's house is and everyone's like you leaked his address but celebrity addresses like are public information so I don't know if it's like that big of a deal I don't know if Drake has to move but everyone's now wondering if like now this is a reignited feud because they've been pretty quiet for a while.

Got it. But then I saw something that was like. Drake laughing. Drake laughing because it wasn't even his address or something. Well, he just put up an Instagram story in response to it. Like he was in the back of like a Rolls Royce just like laughing into his camera. He did look like a freak. I hate when people do that.

Like. So I don't know like what that means I didn't get like a translation so either he's like okay with it or like he's oh crazy Kanye again I don't know yeah I I don't know either but all it just like makes me think about is the fact that like Kiki do you love me how you riding say you never ever leave on beside me. Cause I want ya. And I need ya. And I'm down for ya. And what was so crazy is like the whole world was singing that song. Just like Kiki.

No one was singing anything of it. No one was singing anything. And then like the rumors started circulating that like Kiki is about Kim. No. And then Kanye made that video like, Drake, how would you feel if I made a song? Ri-ri. Do you love me?

And I was like, oh my God, this is about Keeks. This is about Aunt Keeks. Aunt Keeks. Like, which is crazy. But is it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

And then there was like a song lyric about like, Making two rights. Yeah, yeah. And that's how you got from Drake's house. To Kanye's house. To Kim's house in Hollywood Hills. Yeah. So like, that was just,

that sort of lives in my mind right now. Me too. And there's so much ambiguity like about this feud. There are certain feuds like I could tell you you know the origin and this is just

I feel like a deep rooted it also has to do with the fact that like Drake had a baby and like nobody knew about it and Kanye told everyone some shit like that. Yeah.

There's a lot of I think there's a lot we don't know. So we can't. So without all the facts I just can't. And you know how much it pains us to talk about things when we don't have full context here at the Morning Toast. It really, really does. So it's actually a policy of ours. We won't do it. Are you ready for our next story, which is a little health news? A little health news perfectly brought to you by Chirp. Yes. A brand dedicated to helping the world feel good

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Our next story is a little health news. Apparently, eating one hot dog takes 30 minutes off of your life a study suggests you're kidding researchers released a nutritional index this week aiming to inform guidelines and help americans achieve healthier and more environment environmentally stable diets the index ranked foods by minutes gained or lost off healthy life per serving with processed meats and sugary drinks among the biggest offenders what's a sugary drink not like a diet coke right a soda but i'm sure there's no sugar in diet coke right but there's fake sugar which i'm sure poses a different issue yeah aspartame yeah findings included over 5 000 foods in the u.s diet classified by health burden and environmental

impacts we use the results to inform marginal dietary substitutions which are realistic and feasible we find that small targeted foodlevel substitutions can achieve compelling nutritional benefits and environmental impact reductions. I just want to say. Sugary drinks, hot dogs, burgers, and breakfast sandwiches were linked with the most minutes of healthy life lost. Okay, I just want to say like whereas fruit non-starchy and mixed vegetables ready to eat cereals and cooked grains were associated with the largest gains cereal for every hot dog you eat you have a piece of fruit you balance out your lifespan i just want to say like finally being a picky eater works my benefit i've never eaten a hot dog in my life never even taken a bite of one

oh you've missed out they're disgusting looking i'll have a burger maybe once a year really like I don't really have a lot of burgers never had a breakfast sandwich in my life yeah never and what was the other one the other one was sugary drinks okay they got me there but like what's considered a sugary drink like I like Gatorade is that sugary yeah for sure but you don't like it's not like that's part of your daily routine no no not part of my daily routine but like drinking diet coke and diet pepsi is they didn't specify on diet I don't think that has to do with sugary drinks because it's technically zero sugar so basically what you're saying is that I live a healthy lifestyle according to this study thank you I guess that you do. Also, foods like salted peanuts, baked salmon, and rice with beans were also associated with gains between 10 and 15 minutes of life.

Literally, I have salmon and rice for every meal. Oh, my God. Wait. This is crazy. Like, I am the healthiest person alive. I'm going to live forever. Oh, my God. Stop.

Knock on wood. No, wait. I'm going to live forever. Oh my God, stop. Knock on wood. No, wait. I'm shook. Yeah. Salmon and rice? And I had chili last night. I'm sorry, I forgot to bring it to you. I forgot.

Ben made a fucking heavenly ass chili. But you know what? That's what I'm having for lunch. How dare you? How do you eat chili? I heat it up. And then I add a little cheese, sour cream. But I'm saying you just put chili on the spoon. Like don't have rice I put chili on the spoon with a little sour cream and cheese yeah I

eat it with Tostitos yeah like a dip I'm sure it's literally like 30 times worse for you eating a chili or even like taco meat on a on a Tostito like a crunchy scoop actually I prefer the bite size but you know what i'm saying is so heavenly like we said healthiest person alive no i just want to say like for all the people who like look down on me for my eating habits jokes on you bitch because these what organization was this this was um the michigan the michiganites approve of my lifestyle the university of michigan school of public health thank you u of m sph yeah but you know what this really doesn't account for like getting hit by a car and no of course not oh like so i'm sure that's why all these things

are so irrelevant they're so irrelevant and you know what i have to say does it account for like terminal illnesses no no it's just like it i think in an ideal world if a person never left the house and like was in an incubator like yes yes it i think they're just trying to get people to understand like the varying effects i will say a hot dog is worth the 35 minutes i was gonna say now that you know this information like will you think twice before picking up a hot dog i know you love hot dogs no no for every hot dog i have i'll have a piece of fruit and you hate fruit and i've been getting more into fruit recently really i haven't because of pritikin like they are so fruit tastic fruity so it made me have like a new appreciation for

fruit and especially in the summer I've been having some oranges and they're quite delectable. I just have to say like fruit in the summer when I was in the Hamptons I was sitting outside eating cherries and I really thought like I could go on a diet like it's so I don't know what the right word is like refreshing. It's so refreshing. It's like eating water almost. Like it's so hydrating. You just get these like bursts of flavor. And when I was in Florida, like we would order fruit plate and they have the best, freshest produce in Florida.

I'm like, it was heavenly. No, I honestly think that like fruit should exclusively be eaten on vacation or in the summer. Yeah. So I am definitely changing my ways and my my thoughts and feelings about fruit I've been enjoying an apple here and there an apple a day keeps the doctor away so you want to keep Dr. Fichemin nice and close yeah yeah so I don't need any apples no but so if I want a hot dog I'm gonna pair it with rice and beans fruit and cereal yum I've actually really been

getting into cereal it's a great loophole I know what you think considers a bowl of cereal a snack or a meal I think most people consider it a meal I think that's insane like it's a snack well I guess like if it's part of a balanced breakfast then you also have like a banana oj yeah so if you're just eliminating those items and you're just having that maybe it's a snack i think it's how much cereal you put in the bowl and if you drink the milk like if i just want to say like if you drink your milk out of the cereal bowl please never in your life address me or look me in the eyes because you and i have beef you have processed beef it's gonna take 35 minutes of your life and if i literally was sitting at the dining room table with Ben and he was, we were eating cereal and he started to slurp his bowl.

You would get up, pack your bags. And go. Yeah. So just wanted to put that out there. Not to be dramatic or anything. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? No. But you're about to be.

Now I am. It's the final story. Fucking stunning. Wow, you never curse. Really? I feel like I curse so much. Say it again. Fucking stunning. No, you only curse when you're like having a Cleveland day, which I was on the verge of having here today.

Honestly, I can't even differentiate Cleveland days from non-Cleveland days because every day for the last year and a half has been a Cleveland day. Or it has Cleveland-like elements. No, that would make it a positive day. Remember when New York and Cleveland were having beef on the internet? Were they? Yeah, like. Yes, the New York.

Like the official New York account. Account for like the mayor or like the government or something posted like. A bad day in New York is better than a great day in Cleveland. Like shut. That's actually not true at all. That's actually not true at all. Have you been to Cleveland? It's delightful.

Cleveland came back strong. Good. And it was just a really crazy time. Did you see that that monstrous animal Cuomo left his dog behind? Yeah. Because he officially resigned. Yeah. I was going to say today, we have a new governor today.

Oh, yeah. I know nothing about her. It's a her, right? Yeah. Gotta research. Yeah. I don't know anything about her either. I just know she's not Cuomo.

So that's really exciting. Cuomo no mo. Cuomo no mo. But seriously, justice for the dog. Like, what happened? Justice for the dog. Justice for the dog. Like, what happened? Justice for the dog. Justice for the dogs. As if Cuomo's public approval rating couldn't go down more.

Like, the dogs, really? Sick. Disgusting. Twisted. You also saw that story I sent you about the dogs in Australia. I really don't want to talk about it. Okay, but if you guys don't know what I'm talking about, just Google Australia dogs.

Trigger alert. It's not been a, just Google Australia dogs. Trigger alert. It's not been a good week for the dogs. Trigger warning. Seriously, it's a really fucking sad, like horrible, horrific story. So, but I won't talk about it. Okay. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Oh.

It's the final story. yeah i'm ready oh i love that fucker okay finally for the motherfucking final story. Jesus Christ. Instagram is retiring the swipe up. Instead, we will have link stickers starting August 30th. The swipe up will be no more. Instagram is planning to retire the feature, which allows people to visit external websites by swiping up. Instead, you will get a swipe up.

I'm sorry, a link click sticker just like you know a white box yeah when you're like shopping you can like tap the product there'll be tappable stickers and stories that take people to external websites they think it'll you know streamline the creative process and more so which I read at the bottom of the article it's like when you have a swipe up on your story people can't respond to it okay so so the stickers would solve that I think but like I mean I have my responses off regardless and I just I don't think every story requires a response no so that's the thing so a lot of people here are like this is literally an update nobody fucking asked for like there's so many other things we want on Instagram if it's not broke like why are we fixing it it seems so random and I guess like the only

the only issue people have with the swipe ups is that usually if you want to respond to someone's messages you literally swipe up and the message thing comes up but if there's a link there's no way to do that and I just feel like we could have solved this very very small irrelevant problem that doesn't really affect a lot of people in a different way like I think that the swipe ups are great I don't know if this button I've been like reading like what people think about it, like their reactions on social media and people either think it's going to like skyrocket engagement or completely deplete it. And a lot of people's businesses like rely on those swipe up links. Yeah. I honestly don't think it will like make that much of a difference. And

I'm sure eventually it'll be like, oh, I can't believe we ever said swipe up. But it's just crazy. I like swipe up has become such a part of the jargon so if you're making a video now and you still have and you have you don't have swipe ups but you have the sticker what are you gonna say like tap through or people are probably still gonna say swipe up people are probably still gonna say swipe up for a while like yeah but it's just gonna be like tap the link tap the link in my story I like hate that yeah swipe up was just like fun and funny. And cute. Yeah. So end of an era for swipe ups. And it just seems like so random. Like I just feel like every day we come on here and we talk about like features on Instagram

that we wish we were better. Like we're always talking about that. And then they just come out with this like what? Yeah. Like nobody was complaining about this whatsoever. No. I'm sure it's like for their internal purposes of like engagement and keeping people addicted to their app.

Like yeah. There's something beneficial here here but Instagram like really is slowly driving away like creators like because I know a lot of creators who are like younger are just like getting growing so much faster on like TikTok and making so much more money from the creator fund and Instagram announced like a couple weeks ago that they were like dedicating a billion dollars to creator funds like like paying creators. But it's not the same way that like TikTok and YouTube does it. It's not through ads. It's like go live and get a badge.

It's like a game. It's like silly. Like they're really not investing in creators. And I just feel like a lot of the young people who want to become like famous on Instagram, they're going to start going to other platforms. We shall see. We'll see what the youths are up to also before i get into the bachelor in paradise recap i wanted to just talk about because i watched nine perfect strangers oh but i haven't seen it yet and i actually will watch it okay i watched there's only the first three episodes out okay i just want to say i am so glad i didn't read the

book because i'm enjoying the show and I usually don't enjoy both and I people were like you should read it for your wellness retreat I'm so fucking glad that I didn't because obviously like this wellness retreat in nine perfect strangers is spooky and like extremely nefarious and questionable and it would have made me so nervous to already go like to a retreat by myself where I didn't know what to expect and like in the in the show like they take the the people's blood when they get there but they did that at my retreat too and like I it was normal because they needed to like measure your health levels and stuff I'm dead we like we got blood work all the time it's actually like you know to see your cholesterol and your blood it's right all this stuff it was like and so if I had read the book and then I saw

they were taking my blood I would have been like i would have left totally so i'm really enjoying it you should watch it i'm going to it's really good it's a good cast and it's good okay so tell me what happened on bachelor in paradise and i just want to say like i think that we should do dear toasters tomorrow because we're doing like so well with what's going on there was crazy construction noises like right before we started we were nervous and i just don't want to push our luck i feel like you tell me bachelor in paradise and then we'll solve tomorrow's problem tomorrow i agree okay okay bachelor in paradise so like i said like there are some really strong couples demi came down the stairs yesterday and uh she took brendan on a date brendan had been vibinging with Natasha like a lot and so Natasha was kind of

freaking out while he was on the date like just because like Demi like came in like really hot and like you know energetic and I'm gonna steal your man to everyone and so she was nervous but then also while Brendan was gone there started like this rumor going around about him that like he had been dating Piper before. She's not on the show yet. You know, I actually heard that. So Natasha like knows Brendan's on this date. Oh, and he's dating Piper, like kind of waiting for her to come, I guess. And everyone's like, Brendan's a player. Brendan's a player. But we haven't heard anything from Brendan. Brendan goes on his date with Demi. I think they have a really good time. And then like she wants to,

talk about like where things are going to go. And he's sort of like, I want to keep my options open. Like, you know, this isn't it for me pretty much. And she was like so angry and like embarrassed and she felt rejected. And she was like throwing a temper tantrum the whole rest of the episode. It was a really bad look. I don't know anyone who like came off the episode like feeling favorably, more favorably towards demi than they did the last time they saw her on the show um it's a little like i think even weird

that she's in paradise i think it is too what's really weird about this season is like because it's matt's girls are like the new girls and they're like but peter's girls are also this is also their paradise we skipped a year but like to when you're watching the show peter's girls are also, this is also their paradise season. We skipped a year. But like when you're watching the show, Peter's girls are just completely overlooked. And it's like, so for Colton's girl to show up, it's just like, oh no. And so now I'm like even extra worried for Becca Kufrin to come. Like there is nobody for her. There's no room for her. There's no one, there's no room for anyone before Peter's season.

Like I swear. Interesting. Because like that's how much like this, like this. it's the turnover nation like they just want like what's hot the the contestants within themselves they don't want someone's old you know stale 800 000 followers who are no longer engaged totally i want your fresh 500k totally so it's just really interesting and i i don't think i think demi really um came off quite terribly last night wow yeah she was just like throwing a fit the whole rest of the day and like so upset with Brendan that like he even went on the date with her like but he went to explore that's a really frustrating part of watching these

shows is like the suspense of no not this one like there's no common sense like everyone's acting like we're not on an island and we haven't known each other for four days like you know she's just like mad because she played the whole thing wrong she came in she wanted to go out with Brendan I guess he's like one of the hottest guys there and not only is he into someone else like he's not into you and he might be into Piper and she made the wrong choice and like that was your one date and the boys have the roses this week like you played yourself yeah so she was just sort of like being crazy about that but then Brendan eventually comes back and everybody's talking about Brendan but it's like what does Brendan have to say like we know Brendan from Tayshia's season like Brendan is a pretty good

guy what does Brendan have to say and he said like he had dated Pipers before the show but out of like everyone and even with his date with Demi like he's feeling Natasha the most oh my god I really love Natasha so like he didn't lie and like that was true and I also feel like every single person there was like talking before the show or even dating before the show because the way that they're all so connected already it's like we missed the falling in love part okay I completely agree and I feel like back in the day when we used to watch Bachelor in Paradise for Joe and Samantha yes it was like the worst thing you could do and now just like with social media and like how Bachelor, like the producers, they're always like bringing people together.

Like people are always doing events and then they're going on. Like there's just so many opportunities that you would meet someone who would be on Paradise. So now it doesn't seem like a big deal at all. But yes, Joe and Samantha. Yes, so like they want to make a big deal that like he was talking to Piper. But it's like I could, I feel as though some of these couples you were talking before too and you just got lucky that you're all first week people. Yes. Because

everybody had the person that they were already like going for. So Brendan and Natasha are in a good spot. So you're saying it feels like predetermined almost? Yeah like all these conversations already happened and like there's no room like I don't know it's just yeah it feels like everyone's been talking for now two years like they know exactly what they want like there is no like I'm gonna talk to him and then him and I don't know who I like more like it's just like I like him yeah we're getting engaged what happened with grocery store Joe and Serena oh they were totally quiet this season this episode nothing happened he gave her his rose like they're going strong but next week someone comes down and takes Serena on a date oh um so brennan and natasha are good and i'm so happy for them and it's all good there then

ivan and just who gives demi a rose just wait ivan and jessenia went on a one-on-one they got like the first official cup like of a couple one-on-one not like someone coming down with a date card and like they're oh they're getting age like they're everything of the sort like they were so fucking cute like they are going all the way I really believe that and also like based on the previews I don't know why I feel like I remember them being together so good so cute so there's like a lot of love happening so far already like couples that you could really feel like are getting engaged how's Abigail and Noah so strong you didn't hear anything from them like that he gave her the rose kenny and mari are going so strong i don't like that couple but he gave her the rose um everyone who you saw like got that rose and then victoria p okay she was the

drama well she was the drama on her season two and she like got away with actually being like sneaky like but like so she when she came on her season like I think I had her picked for my top four like I thought this girl was going places like and it's just been such a fall for Victoria yeah and last night she fell even was no different so basically there's this guy his name is James he's from Katie season I think so we don't know him but he seems really cute and nice whatever and he's really into Victoria P and he's made that clear and she is like you know just giving him like enough to want to get his rose but in her confessionals she can't remember his name she's like what's his name uh Jason oh my god over and over and even when she's talking the

other girl she's like oh what's his name can't remember his name she's literally saying in her confessionals like that she just wants a rose and that like she'll stick with James in order to get it meanwhile like he's really into her and then Tammy comes through love Tammy Tammy comes through and lets us know that Victoria P has a boyfriend in Nashville an aspiring country singer who she is here just to like, you know, be on the show and then bring cameras back home to help her boyfriend get famous. What? How does Tammy know that? Tammy, I guess like people know it. And Victoria P. lives in Nashville and Kelsey lives in Nashville. And Tammy goes. Who? Kelsey, our girl. Oh, our girl. She doesn't live in Iowa anymore?

No, she moved to Nashville. So the night of the rose ceremony, it really feels like everything's buttoned up because everybody knows who they're going to give their roses to, except James is probably going to give it to Victoria P., but they're the least strong couple because she literally doesn't know his name and can't fucking stand him. So that leaves Kelsey and Demi open to go home.

Kelsey, Demi, Victoria Queen. Oh, right. Serena C. Serena C, she's from Matt james's season you thought she was a mean girl yeah she was she made a last-ditch effort to go after tammy's man but like tammy has her shit in check like tammy's on lock tap no tammy is that lock i was so tammy's man tammy i think his name is aaron and she just like from the day she got to the beach she's like i like aaron now they're like fabulous and then Serena C. went after him and, like, made out with him.

And I was like, oh, Serena C. is giving Tammy a run for her money. Tammy comes back around, literally straddles her man, starts making out with him. Like, while also going to James, like, this whole evening. She's booked and busy. She has her man on lock. And she's also letting James, like, she's. Spitting truth. Spitting truth.'s also letting James like she's. She's spitting truth. Spitting truth.

So she tells James about Victoria P. And he's like shocked. He spent like the last few days like totally invested in this girl was going to give her this rose. And like what's the truth? And Tammy says Kelsey lives in Nashville too. And like she knows this to be true as well. So then Kelsey's talking to James and like she's like feels so bad to have to like tell him that this is what's true but like she's she's also like are you okay and I'm like what Rose I'm like Rose I'm right on top of that Rose what about Kelsey and James right so then James finally

goes and talks to Victoria P and it's like they told me this is this true and she's literally gaslighting the fuck out of him she's like you're being so aggressive like he's literally just sitting there saying is this true like she really thought she was doing something I think she realized quickly she wasn't she was doing nothing so she like tries to like talk her way around it for a while talks to other girls like I thought I love you guys how like you don't fucking love them so we already know you're a liar if you're saying that and then she leaves she's just like she can't she leaves and in the car she's like talking about how like no like you know just saying like platitudes of words about how like she's you know they this drama blah blah

and at the end she goes I don't need to be here to look for something that I already have at home oh so she was lying so she admitted it yeah oh my god what a Beyond. Like, that's so embarrassing. Like, you got caught. I'm crying. Beyond losery. So then James's rose is the only rose in contention, really. And does he give it to Demi? And Kelsey, you know, is being herself. And she was just like, you know, I would like your rose.

Like, she was just being, like, really cute and sweet, talking to James. And Demi is, like, watching her being like, Kelsey's sweet talking to James and Demi is like watching her being like Kelsey's so desperate blah blah and then Demi goes and has a conversation with James and is like you know I want your rose and he's like I'm what tonight's gonna be a friendship rose like whoever I give it to and she's like you only want to be friends and it's like you literally didn't even know this guy before two minutes ago and then she's like are we gonna have sex oh and so in the rose ceremony he gave his rose to Demi I believe it was producers who made him do so yeah because like she you know will cause drama and everything yeah Kelsey went home

Serena C went home Queen Victoria went home it was time for Queen Victoria and it was time for Serena C but like yet again like Kelsey I feel like she's this great girl who gets overlooked on these shows just because she's not like annoying and thirsty and like can I play for a chat like yeah but the thing is is that I really can't watch a show and honestly I think it has a lot to do with Demi like first of all she had this like storybook ending on her time on Bachelor in Paradise it was this national story it was this like finally great moment for bachelor nation and like i do think that like she was i don't know where i heard this once but it's so funny and it's the best way to describe it like someone told demi burnett she was america's sweetheart and she believed it and like now she is

just like on this i think she thinks she's too good for all these people like walking in like oh you don't want to date me i'm america's sweetheart like literally she might as well said that and she has that attitude on social media too and then i do think a couple months ago there's like she was knocked the fuck down with her old tweets which I do think like was a humbling moment for her but I just I don't like vibe with her at all like I was very much on board for like the demi of it all when she opened up on her season and then on Bachelor in Paradise about her mom being in prison and then struggles with her sexuality and I thought those were all great conversations to have and now she's just striking me as annoying beyond and the way she came in was reminding me of that time the Fergie twins came on yeah in their second season they did their bachelor in paradise

season where they skated by like for a whole year because if you gave one twin a rose you got both and they were just like friends with everyone and then they came back the next year towards the end and like we're so disgusting towards everyone. Like we're better than everyone. You think you're a queen. And that was the energy that Demi was giving me. And it's like, to this group of people, she's pretty irrelevant. She's old news. And she was like, and I don't even know the ages comparatively,

but yeah, she's old news. She's next season, right? No, she's Colton season. She had her time. She had her time. She was like asking Brendan, like, what's your story you're from tisha season i didn't watch like sure so how do you know it's from tisha season well like maybe he's like i don't know no she's just too she's too cool too cool to know you and so like now she lives to another two weeks because next week the girls have the rose and like i don't i really don't know if i'll be watching honestly i don't know you really sold it like i'm hooked because last night's episode was good but then like of course

like the one i don't watch but then all these couples like look locked and loaded and i mean it does look like tonight and it's interesting because like there was 10 roses so nine couples are like steadfast steadfast so it's like whoever comes down next week whichever girls like turn their heads were like the ones who were maybe like not so steadfast but right we're showing us steadfastness right right so like that is interesting but I also feel like yeah people will go and make out with other people and try and find connections but I think they're going to kind of come back to the people that they initially that they initially vibe with I don't know if we learned anything from Marcus and Lacey it's that nothing is for certain no but like Marcus and Lacey but that's still the craziest thing to me that ever happened on that

show like they were in love got married and then we never heard from them again and they were never even really married yeah no that's not what's so crazy to me but if you remember the way that they got together roberto robert graham oh it was robert graham i think so no i don't think so i think it was the guy who dated becca tilly yeah but that was before becca but i'm pretty sure so like lacy it was week one lacy was like lacy and robert and mar Marcus really liked Lacey and the producers let him give his rose before Robert and he gave it to Lacey which was like so fucking random yeah and the rest is history and they were so cute even though they didn't work out and he's married to someone else and so was she I consider it in what I saw on tv like that was a love story like goodbye and they got married at the next season.

And then it turned out they were never married. But, like, I don't care about what happened after the TV show. I care about what I'm – the content. 100%. No, that was a great turn of events. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I'm, like, kind of feeling like now I want to watch. I don't know if I'll watch tonight.

I'll see where I'm at. But it just sort of felt like I've seen this show. Yeah. but it just sort of felt like I've seen this show. Yeah. I think I've seen this film before and I didn't like the ending. Okay. I mean, I'm feeling really good.

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Dear Claudia and Jackie, first and foremost, I've always loved tuning into The Toast, but something about these episodes in 2021 lately have me in stitches laughing. Thank you. Thank you. My write-in isn't asking for advice but

absolutely feels like something you guys would love to unpack and maybe even help solve a mystery. I was inspired by the Tel Aviv poop coverage to tell you this.

If you guys remember we reported that in cities like Tel Aviv they're testing DNA samples like if you leave your poop on the street from your dog from your dog not

from you they'll send you a ticket. Okay. I went to high school in new jersey and our animal print themed homecoming dance in 2011 someone pooped on the dance floor my school didn't have a proper auditorium we had a convertible cafeteria slash auditorium the cafetorium as we called it without disclosing the name of the school or any other alumni watching or listening to this episode they will know the history from this of the story from these details. We were all on the makeshift dance floor having a grand old time.

And all of a sudden, we had to actually evacuate the dance floor. Evacuate the dance floor. She had to evacuate the dance floor and have a janitor come clean up the poop on the floor it wasn't diarrhea or anything that would have made you think someone was sick or lost control but it's a mystery that plagues our hometown and people still discuss it i wish we could have a dna test that that poop do you think it was a girl in a dress or a guy who got it out of his pant like can you offer a reward to anyone who can tell the truth about this sincerely who pooped on the floor 10 years ago well see i didn't really understand why you were writing in until this moment new

jersey we have a very big tri-state area audience and i wasn't playing we were the biggest podcast in new jersey but they haven't run that report since 2018 we're still technically the biggest podcast in raining queens of new jersey so i just i appreciate you putting this out there because there's nothing obviously we can do to solve it except use our platform for good and not evil. So if you went to this high school and you obviously know this ill-fated story of the duty on the floor and you know who did it. I have to imagine it was a girl in a dress. Neither. I don't think it was a girl in a dress and I don't think it was through a boy's pant legs. I think a boy pulled his pants down and shot on the floor. You know what actually I'm thinking now? Someone would have have seen that I feel like these kids were getting hot and heavy

I feel like it was a prank or yeah someone pooped elsewhere brought it in or it was dog poop that they like put in a bag and dropped on the floor yeah I agree it's a prank for sure yeah okay let's move on hello I'm in a pickle and i'm hoping you ladies can help i got engaged a few weeks ago finally and my boyfriend did a great job with securing a photographer to take photos of the proposal here's the issue we got the photos back and they are incredibly disappointing they look like my 60 year old mother took them on an iphone 5 they are incredibly zoomed in even though the background was a very beautiful beach and there was a railing slash-slash-fence blocking the big down-on-the-knee moment. There also aren't any photos of the setup and the decor, the flowers, the photos of us.

I'm not sure if this person had ever photographed a proposal before, but I can't believe we have no postable photos from this. I'm so upset, but I also feel like I can't let my fiancé know I'm disappointed because I know he did his best finding a photographer and planning it all. Attached is the photo. It's not good. Any thoughts? Should I reach out to the photographer and planning it all. Attached is the photo. It's not good. Any thoughts? Should I reach out to the photographer and ask if she has any more photos?

I'm worried my fiance will notice I'm not posting the photos or displaying them in our house. Help. Okay, I have a few things I want to say. Okay. I see this photo. We can't post it on our Instagram because I don't want. It's not great.

I feel like you could find an editor to remove that railing. First of all. Not really. Second of all, it is worth noting that like a lot of the pictures you see of other people's proposals on social media are reenacted. So if you wanted to go back down there with another photographer, even just like your iPhone and like your friend who's tech savvy, wear the same outfits and like get a bottle of champagne, you could redo it.

And of course, it's worth reaching out to the woman or man and asking if they have more photos just like can you send all of the you know the drafts yeah this is really really frustrating at first I was like okay the photos aren't great but like you know what I don't like I thought I had good photos now I look back on them I'm like that's a big leg so but now after like the way that you're describing it like I would be so incredibly frustrated definitely ask the photographer for every single picture that she took in there you should be able to find one I don't think you need to go and reenact the pictures if you want to have an engagement shoot so that you have more pictures you should go and do that because like they did

capture like the moment of surprise and what's the point in paying for a high class photographer if you're getting blurry I would be so fucking pissed me too oh my god oh my god I think I would even like just call and like be a little rude and and honest because you're on the water where's the beach where's the sun no no that's so horrible like don't like go no well congratulations that's really all that matters you got engaged I know but like and you look so happy really bothers me it's very bothersome ask for more photos do the most with what you find the best one edit some stuff out add a filter Jackie O'Flo JackieOFlo.com yeah um and do an engagement shoot you can get you can reenact engagement shoots are great because you wear white and you have nice pictures for your wedding website and whatever other assets but then you can

also turn put this dress back on go down to the beach and get a fake proposal photo no one needs to know it's fake take your engagement pictures there and be totally dolled up by the way my engagement photos are at the same place i got engaged and we did a fake proposal yeah this is good to have more pics it is good to have more pics this is frustrating but not the end of the world so like you know find something that you like get it up and then move on to the next phase of the engagement process don't harp on this don't get all verklempt yeah all right third and final one hey Jackie and Claudia huge fan over here can't believe I finally have something to write in about after listening to y'all dole out amazing advice for months I'm recently dating a

new guy and he's the sweetest we hit it off as soon as we met and have been hanging out casually dating for two-ish months. Flashback to our first date. He chose a restaurant. It was great, but long story short, when the bill came, he didn't even offer to pay. After it's out there for a minute, I suggest we split it and he didn't object. I didn't really mind at all at the time, but after thinking about it, I'm a little peeved that he picked the restaurant, something more upscale than I would have chosen for the first date and then didn't even offer to cover the bill now fast forward to us going out more regularly going to bars with friends and ordering takeout if he covers anything I'll always receive a Venmo request to split or if we're at a bar he'll say I'll get this round and you can grab the next I really like this guy and I don't see

Stan this standing in the way of pursuing something more serious but I'm am I wrong for thinking it's weird or is this completely normal? My friends are kind of split. Is it old fashioned to me to think that when you're dating someone new that they would want to cover the little things like drinks or even the first date? I'm adding in here that I know we can never know another person's financial situation, but I'm 100% sure he makes more money than me. And I also know that I can pay for my own things, but it also feels good to have someone

offer to buy drinks or little things here and there I would love an honest opinion from you guys about how to handle this or if I should just leave it be any words of wisdom would be appreciated I just want to say when you were not here I did your toasters with Tyler Cameron and we had a similar prompt and I just want you to know how offended he was he was like I will pay for everything until we're 97 it's like not even a dating phase so it's a guy thing and a girl thing because I'm I'm not okay with this okay I'm not okay with this I just want to say like the there are people who would be fine with this like it's really a personal preference so you're asking our personal preference yes and we are strong independent

business women who want other men to pay for our things. Who like to be taken care of and treated sometimes, especially at the beginning of a relationship. And it's not about how much money he does or doesn't make. If he's taking you on a first date, take you to McDonald's. If, if, if he can't swing the upscale restaurant bill by himself. This is what I said with Tyler. It's not about. It's not about rich or poor. This is what I said with Tyler. It's not about rich or poor. It's about being cheap. Yeah.

You could be very, you could be hella poor and incredibly generous and you could be very rich and cheap as shit. It's not about money. No, it's not about money. And if whatever half the bill was at the upscale restaurant, he could have spent that at a different restaurant. So like for him to choose an upscale restaurant and then not like that is just a behavior that I find offensive personally and then also to like Venmo your partner for things that are like not you know like we're splitting the groceries today and we're you

got the toilet paper and like household items like drinks at the bar like fucking treat you like you deserve it I'm sorry I know it's like old-fashioned I guess but like some things you know it wouldn't it would be it it wouldn't kill us. It wouldn't kill us to uphold. So I just want, I completely agree with you. I'm a progressive woman, but I believe in chivalry and I'm sorry. Like, I don't think women should pay for stuff. Like, I'm sorry.

Especially at the beginning of the relationship. Eventually you get to a point where it's like equal partners, building a life. I know what you make, you know what I make. So like, I'm not, you know, a point where it's like equal partners building a life I know what you make you know what I make so like I'm not you know it is what it is but in the beginning like you're being courted yeah and I'm sorry I'm sure some people are not gonna agree but that's fine that's fine I you should date that guy yeah right exactly there there's a pot for every cover but it's like if that bill comes and like he doesn't pick it up and that like gives you a pit a little bit then like then that's a problem and it's okay if you're and that's a problem in the not with you but like then maybe you guys are financially incompatible no and maybe you're now identifying like that you

want a guy who courts you in the beginning like maybe you didn't know that because it always happened and it's like a debt you oh hypothetically yes but I don't know I just feel like you shouldn't be ashamed of the fact that you want to be courted I think it's very natural and I think like in our culture because we're we are striving for equality this is like a loophole like I'm striving for equality too but like not on the first date no and also I just think like as women like we need to hold men to a higher standard agreed the bar is so low the bar is so low and I think if we all band together and we don't pee on the toilet seat and we do insist that men pay especially at the beginning of a relationship like that's the bare minimum like then we're helping all women because then the next girl doesn't have to sit

there with the check in between the table being like the fuck do I do with this totally when you were on your first date with Zach did you like make the move like oh you know what I don't think I did that I did I don't remember it's so long ago I know well four score and seven years ago I remember it's it's like a thing and it's like you don't want to be like a girl who's like expecting it so you want to be nice and be like oh do you want to split but ideally the person says no and then yeah I think that sometimes you want to be the person that's expecting it. Say that again?

Like, you just said, like, you lean for the wallet just to, like, pretend like you're not expecting it. But, like, if that's your expectation that the man pays for the first date, then don't lean for your wallet. No, I guess. But, like, you just don't want to be, like, a holler. I don't know. No, like, you asked me out. Totally. Even though I, like, begged you to.

You chose this restaurant. Yeah. Yeah, I think I chose it. No, for sure like you're yeah yeah yeah I guess that is conflicting because I'm of the mindset where you should like pretend to reach for your wallet but of course the guy's gonna say no now that I I talk like such a big game I'm sure I'm sure I paid for my first date no kidding um I'm sure that I did like pretend I'm sure but you know what now that like in thinking back I just think you need to like stand firm in the things that are important to you and like if it were today and I was going on a first date I would not reach for my wallet yeah I also am just like so curious how this goes in homosexual relationships like I think that

actually is a really interesting conversation we should all come to the card come to the table and show all of our cards like what are the rules yeah but but there are no rules because everybody's different everybody expects different things that's true hetero relationships or homosexual relationships so like you have i don't know why i said homosexual i sound like a nine-year-old gay you have to just homosexual like heterosexual what the fuck it's not a textbook you have to just like you you know what's comfortable do what's comfortable for you so i just but i do feel like i don't like this like venmo and it's because it's making you feel weird if you didn't care great that's what you care about but like you feel weird about it so like run with that like lean into your feelings you're entitled to feel how you feel yeah i agree but it's a thing like it is a thing is a thing but also sometimes like you

maybe just like share your expectations and maybe you'll be like oh i didn't know maybe my last girlfriend insisted we go dutch right maybe i don't want to offend your female intelligence or whatever like at least give him the chance of being like you know it would be nice to be taken care of sometimes. You know, we don't always have... Or just like stop answering the Venmo requests.

Yeah, block him. If he starts like following up... Notifications, yeah. Then it's time to... Yeah, but I think first if it bothers you but you really like this guy, try saying something.

No, I feel like you should try just like not responding to the Venmos anymore, not offering, hey, can you go get us a drink I know but you know the thing about relationships is communication okay but they're only two months in they don't have to communicate yet okay but you could try Claudia's way first and if still like you're getting re-notified you will know what this guy's deal is if you don't respond

to one Venmo request and see if he'll send you a follow-up yeah you will know then he's not doing it for his duchess he's doing it because he's cheap yeah and he yeah there's nothing worse than a person who's cheap no and that's different than not how much money you have yes agreed so that's that on that that was dear toasters thank you so much to everyone who wrote in dear toasters at gmail.com if you want to write in and also dear toasters at gmail.com if we have given you some sage advice and you used it or you didn't use it, we want to hear what happened. We'd like a follow-up email. So do that.

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