The Toast - S4 Ep155: Ballsack Towel with Lauryn & Michael Bosstick, The Skinny Confidential: Wednesday, September 1, 2021

Episode Date: September 1, 2021

'Vanderpump Rules' moms reunite with all their babies (Page Six) Mike Richards fired as 'Jeopardy!' executive producer after host debacle (NY Post) Kourtney Kardashian shares Bible verse amid Scott Disick, Travis Barker drama (Page Six) Sarah Paulson reveals she regrets wearing 'fat suit' for Linda Tripp role in Impeachment: American Crime Story after backlash 'Selling Sunset' stars hit Heather Rae Young's bridal shower (Page Six) Real Housewives of New York Recap Special Guests: Lauryn and Michael Bosstick from The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Podcast The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Hump Day! Yes, it's Hump Day. A beautiful, beautiful day, also made more beautiful by the fact that it is September 1st and the weather is positively gloomy. It is so stunning to behold. You know what it is? It's a great day to make a chili. It is a great day to make a chili. Interesting. Now I need to replan my whole day. I'm thinking I'm going to make a chili. Okay. I mean, you talk a big chili talk.

I just have to say, when I say I'm making a chili, it means I'm getting the ingredients for Ben to make a chili. That works. A chili is a chili. It doesn't matter who made it. Wow. That's beautiful. Thank you.

We have an amazing show for you guys today because here's what's going to happen. First of all, yesterday we podcasted all day. All day long. Almost five hours of podcasting. We got your toast yesterday. And then we went to meet Michael and Lauren Bostic of The Skinny Confidential, his and her podcast. And we recorded their podcast, which will be out soon. And they were on our podcast, which is going to be at the end of today's episode and I'm just so excited for you guys to hear like honestly I was

thinking about Lauren all day me too I could we talked to them for so long but I could have talked to them forever I think they're so interesting they're such a fabulous couple she's just like has so much knowledge and information and she just seems like this person maybe I don't know if that's true but she has this confidence that like she has her fucking life together and like every time I remember feeling this way like the last time we podcasted together I just feel like I'm so jealous of like this assuredness you have like in your life yeah I feel that and I was just like you know where you're going yeah and she's going places she's going back to Austin both of them are oh my god yeah it was a really good episode.

We talked about just like literally everything. So that'll be at the end of today's episode, which I'm really excited about. Yes. And then of course we have the Fast Five stories. I believe they'll be extremely fast today. And then there was the abomination. Atrocity.

The disgrace that was the Real Housewives of New York season finale, where I could not tell you one thing that happened. I couldn't even recite back to you. That's how forgettable it was. Okay, I will do my best to remind you, but it was so bad. I can't believe that was a season finale. Probably the worst season finale we've ever seen.

Next week isn't even reunion. It's like unseen crapola from the season that was so shitty it didn't make this shitty season, but it's making its own episode. Because they literally filmed the reunion last week it's not ready yet like and if they torture us with more than one part let's just kill this horse okay we're gonna do at least two parts you know that what's the they shoot dead horses don't they like leave it alone let bygones be bygones and let's just put this absolute atrocity to bed and forget it like let's forget it it was so so crazy it It took me

forever to watch it. I was just like on my phone. I was just doing a million other things. Laundry. Anything. Hang with Brew. Yeah. Brew almost came today. The rain. That's why Theo didn't come. No, it's just like, then I got to pick him up and you know, it's a little stressful as opposed to just being on autopilot when I come in. I know. Now you understand me. I do. But I miss that man. I miss him too. He's an amazing man. An amazing man. We also spent yesterday recording more podcasts. We recorded a Patreon episode, our final one for August. And we did an entire book episode. So not only did we go through all the books we've read this year, rate them, talk about them, try not to give too many spoilers. But then we also did a Q&A just about our reading habits our favorite books it ended up being really fun and I think it was like

one of the longest Patreon episodes it was like way over an hour yeah and we just got carried away with the literature that's what happens when you talk about books this is what I've been saying like if you meet someone at a party and you guys both read like you like Colleen Hoover you can talk forever you know let's talk about that because I kind of wanted to talk about this in the podcast but we ran out of time when you talk to someone about books like at least for me like I put my best foot forward no no that's well of course I'm not like saying Colleen Hoover oh I am um but what I was going to say was like I find the part of the conversation like where I recommend books and talk about the books that I love to be really interesting but like hearing other people

be like you should read this book I'm like okay like it's just it's not that interesting unless you then get to the point where you both read the same book then that's like a funny you know interesting conversation I guess so I understand if you're just swapping recommendations back and forth I'm like yeah cool yeah try this one yeah obviously you're more passionate about the books that you've read but if you are talking to like a reader who you actually think you have similar taste as like it could be good to get a reader who you actually think you have similar taste as like it could be good to get a recommendation from them that's how you discover great books like the best books I've gotten are recommendations from people well being like I think you would

like this I get all my recommendations from you so right and they're all great and you love every book that you've read and I love all my new toys like this one the love island water bottle that I'm drinking lemon lacroix out of you like your water bottle i do it's so cool i wish i got one for myself yeah why didn't you i don't know i was just like i wasn't even thinking about me oh you're so selfless who cares what i need everyone you need to hydrate everyone is worried about you everyone thanks guys uh other so new patreon episode is up all about books. And speaking of books, we're recording the redheads tonight. Oh my God. This is like my seventh podcast of the

week coming up and it's Wednesday and we didn't do a show Monday. Um, so if you read, we are the Brennan's submit your questions to the redheads book club at gmail.com. And if you haven't read it and you like to read or you're curious, definitely read this one was really good but again I spoke to the snatcher last night she said she like literally and I don't know if she was like selling it extra hard because it was her selection she was like it was the best book I've ever fucking read that sounds like the snatcher yeah like promoting her own shit yeah no she gets like really when it's someone else's book she has no time for it yeah that's so counselor so counselor and when it's her book oh my god it was amazing like literally like encyclopedia britannica yeah because like because

what happened like the fact that before we were strangers was a snitch's pick and it's the most popular book like she just rides this high it's been like a year and a half yeah I did read that one it was really good yeah so I'm excited for the redhead see the girls you know get back together see what everyone thought it's never too late to become a Redhead. It's such a fabulous community and one in which I think you all should be joining. And obviously a community of really kind of well-read, obviously, smart, you know, readers with taste because they did vote Girl With No Job, The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst Monster, the second best Redheads book that they read last year. So, I mean, I was expecting to come in last. I'm not gonna lie. So I'm not even mad at Renee.

Yeah. And you read that book and you loved it loved it was so good my book was definitely not better than hers but my book is really good and it's available on Amazon Kindle Barnes & Noble all the places international Canada yeah that's right Canada eat some poutine while you read my book is that Canada yeah yeah poutine yeah um so what else what's going on that's it for me really just busy day and then watched roni so i'm excited to chat about everything everything i listened to more of donda today then it's a song 24 banger you heard it here first okay get i'm thinking radio play okay i'll check it out i didn't listen to donna this morning i just listened to my liked songs and it was quite enjoyable i mean i don't know if this is I don't know if I've spoken about this on

the podcast yet do tell me if I have but I've recently discovered not discovered but just realized someone pointed it out that I am a very big creature of habit have I told you this story no I don't think so because like I whenever I'm eating dinner alone I FaceTime my friend Abe. So I like have some company and he's like, what are you eating? And I'm always eating the same thing. He's like, you're really a creature of habit. I'm like, you know what? Yeah, I am. Like I refuse. If I find one thing I like, even if there's something better out there, like I will stick with the one thing that I like. And now that I know this about myself, I've just become like more aware of it. Where was I going with this story? I don't know Donda yes thank you so when it comes

to listening to new music I actually like have a really hard time I'm like I would much rather listen to a song from 35 years ago yeah then even I have not been able to listen to Ben Platt yet like it takes a lot for me unless it's obviously like Taylor Swift or like but just like new music that I know I would like no I think I'll listen to this old Ben Platt album 45 more times no I agree especially I feel like when I was younger maybe when I was just like in a different environment like working and stuff it was like fun to listen to new albums as I sat at my desk yes but now it's like I only have so much time with music I want to spend it on the songs that I know that I love and the ones that like bring me joy like I don't know if an unknown song is going to bring me joy. Yeah. I listened to like half the Ben Platt album.

One song stuck out to me. The others just like weren't, it wasn't like the last album. Like you don't have to worry about, you know, having an emotional breakdown. Well, I listened to it in full blah. I was reading a book and like it all just like flew by and I didn't even notice the what was going on. It was just like a reverie. It was so like a reverie.

Like a reverie. What's the Adele song? Riverlee. Riverlee song? River Lee. River Lee. The River Lee. Okay, well, I think we should just dive in because, you know, like we are girls who know what they want. Yeah, I think we should dive in.

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first time for a mom's day out. It's seriously so crazy. I know. Like one it's crazy that this is the first time we're seeing all the Vanderbabies together. I feel like they've been together but without Gina. Yeah but then it's just so crazy how all of this happened at the same time. And it's so crazy like we're not gonna see any of it and we didn't see any of it. Yeah but like what looking at this picture I was just like where are the cameras? No looking at this picture I'm like yeah that's so cute like oh if only they had a reality show oh wait they did and not only did they not film during covid half of these people are fired right exactly but like the kids look the exact same age they're all so they really are all the exact same age yeah and

um all of them are girls except for britney and jacks's son so he has like all these that's so jacks that's so jack we're like his son is gonna be like the number one guy in the group he's officially the number one guy in the group we spoke about this with lauren and michael on i don't know if it was our podcast or theirs because it was so many podcasting hours oh yeah we can't tell you what we spoke about on ours because we can't differentiate it from what we spoke on there i want to i actually believe it was theirs um no i think it was about vanderpump rules yeah like she was like so jazzed about the new season and i'm like what are you talking about like i'm so nervous like and i still

am like she did not convince me i'm feeling jazzed about the new season i don't know now it's been so much time that i actually like miss it and i've watched so much bad reality tv that i'm like where's the good stuff oh that was vanderpump rules i know but like now i feel like we're at this place with vanderpump rules where the people who are ogs like tom katie tom ariana sheena like they are not going to be acting wild they all have so much to lose half of them are parents like it's just not they're not going to be acting wild so then you bring in like these young people who are just so thirsty that like they're fake you know danica you know throwing like it's just so contrived. There's no middle ground.

That's like, that's the beauty and the curse of a show like Vanderpump Rules. Like at the beginning, they had nothing to fucking lose. They were all just like hungry for fame and they just turned it around. Now it's like, they're all celebrities. They have homes to pay for, mortgages, children. They're not going to be acting crazy. And then people like Charlie and Danica come in and see like, oh, look, I could have a big house like Stassi. So me be crazy and it's just not authentic

yes I don't know where we go from here for real I know but I feel like I look forward to watching them try okay because at least it's something new and interesting I'm just so tired of the crap we've been watching because I'm just having PTSD from last night's episode of Roni so am I but like I just don't think we should be grouping all these shows together. No, here. Because we just came off of Love Island, which was a fabulous reality show. Okay, Love Island was good.

Beverly Hills is 10 out of 10. Beverly Hills is 10 out of 10. But then we also watched... Potomac is so good. Too Hot to Handle. Not great. Garbage. Not great.

Absolute garbage. Not great. I don't know what else I watched, but I just feel like reality TV, it's not doing what it used to do for me. Maybe that's you. It's definitely me, but it's also the TV. It's both for sure, but it's not as bad as you're making it seem.

I can recognize that it's me because like I'm maturing and evolving and like I just want more. Isn't that crazy though? Because like Real Housewives like used to be a show like for like older women. But now it's like not even good. No no it's me and it's the shows like everyone can agree that these shows are just not and if it wasn't for like erica gerardi's scandal of the year like beverly hills would be let me ask you a question let me remember the question hold on okay take your time can you go back to what you were saying

i've changed the shows have changed gerardi is when i was like yes okay so do you remember like most recent season of orange county was so atrocious and obviously they went in and like heather's back and they have all these new girls how do you rate that really bad like low point rock bottom of OC for what we just witnessed on New York because I think New York like if OC was like a two out of ten New York was a negative six thousand yeah like now I'm like OC wasn't even bad yeah there was something going on OC was really really bad but because of like the COVID interruptions like the way that they had to film but like Bronwyn was being crazy like there was something was something. Elizabeth Vargas was like, sharing her life story.

There was something there. I agree. There was nothing there last night. There was nothing there last night. Okay, we'll get to it. We're moving on. I can't talk about like,

just the decline of reality television. I find it too depressing. Oh, that's crazy. Next up, Mike Richards has been fired as the Jeopardy executive producer. You're lying.

After the host debacle. Yes. Richards, who was briefly appointed replacement host for the late Alex Trebek, has been officially disqualified as the EP for both that longtime game show and Wheel of Fortune. He had stepped down from the coveted hosting gig last week, amid public outrage and resurfaced sexist comments. However, he was expected to remain at the helm behind the scenes while multiple guest hosts cycled through on screen. Show insiders confirmed on Tuesday that Richards was also relieved of his executive producer duties.

Okay, so I feel like there's two things at play here. One, like, I feel like part of the reason why, no, I would say the reason he got fired from the hosting job is because of the comments that resurfaced on the podcast. And then I would say the reason he probably got fired from his producing job is because there was many allegations that he had like a hostile work environment and he was like borderline abusive. So for me, like that actually makes sense. Like I really don't believe in like firing people because they said something on a podcast eight years ago. Like that's just even, and I, by the way, I know I haven't seen the comments, but I

know that they were deemed anti-Semitic and misogynistic both of which apply to me and I still just don't think people who should who said something eight years ago should be fired like I really don't but if you actually are actively in real present time like making it a hostile work environment like you shouldn't be a producer yeah or director whatever his job was yeah if that's what's happening then yes I agree the statement said I'm writing to let you know that Mike will no longer be serving as EP of Will of Fortune and Jeopardy effective immediately. We had hoped that when Mike stepped down from the host position at Jeopardy, it would have minimized the disruption and internal difficulties we have all

experienced these last few weeks. That clearly has not happened. There's no mention of a hostile work environment that he created. Oh, I saw that like on social media. I saw something of that vein too, but there's no mention of stuff like that. So to me, this just feels like.

People were still mad that he worked. People were still mad. Which is so lame. It wasn't enough that he lost the job, that he needed to lose his job too. So he went from, you know, having the job that a million girls wanted to literally being unemployed.

Yeah. Damn. I just feel like he's one of those guys who people just don't like. Yeah, that was the vibe I got from that article that I read. Oh, yeah, you said that. Yeah, that's why it's in my head. Damn. Not a good week for Mike Richards.

No, but just crazy. And in relation to Kyle and Kim? I don't know. You should ask him. Yeah. Okay, next story. Kourtney Kardashian shares a Bible verse amid Scott Disick, Travis Barker drama. Next story brought to you by Chirp?

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I just had to get that off my chest. Okay, I'm happy for you. I feel better. Courtney is turning to the Bible after Scott allegedly told another one of her ex-boyfriends that her PDA with Travis Barker was too much. So she tweeted on Tuesday, the only thing that could possibly, the only thing she posted that could possibly be in reference to this. She tweeted, quote, John 15 7, if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask anything you wish and it will be done for you. See, I do, like, I was inclined to think that Bible verse is obviously

going to be related to this whole drama, but I'm not really seeing this particular chapter, how it's applicable. Me neither. Like, basically, she's saying because she believes in God, like, God is going to, what, like, take care of Eunice and Scott? Like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not familiar with the story of John, though. So maybe. Is that New Testament?

Yes. Yeah. So I'm not. Maybe I'll miss it. It's possible that it has nothing to do with Eunice. She might have been a little more direct. No, totally. And she should really, like, post, like, those Chloe like those Chloe quotes that like give us more Chloe and her quotes Chloe is low-key like

so choogy no it's not she doesn't even try to hide it remember when her Instagram bio for like 15 years was I crave a love so deep the ocean would be jealous yeah which is like so something like Sheena Shea like has posted and like has tattooed on her arm yeah yeah so I don't really see this Bible verse but I did then also see like Amelia Gray posted an Instagram and her caption was dot dot dot and now back to work which was um when Eunice did a follow-up Instagram story yesterday to the original DM just being like I'm tired of being the nice guy la la la and now back to work now it is a common phrase but Amelia is so like okay I saw that that they two said both of them said back to work and I think they have nothing to do with each other personally I think it's that common of a phrase

also we didn't even think about yesterday how like Amelia should be offended by the whole situation that like Scott is out still thinking still thinking like still plotting and worrying about his totally that's actually a really good point that we totally glazed over so like now I'm feeling like you know they had a bad day yesterday fight you know trouble in paradise they had a fight yesterday for sure no I feel like their relationship is so unequal like she's not allowed to raise concerns you know what I mean like you don't like it leave 100% like she a million teenage girls would kill for this job and like you have it so you're not allowed to complain yeah that's like really how I feel like the conversations go in their house

yeah it's so that's so I take back what I said I'm sure it's just a regular day in the disick gray household it's so wrong it's so wrong whatever I'm like happy Courtney's living her best life like Venice Altamora yeah and she like had some delicious pasta last night I've been I guess like everyone's in Italy right now yeah for Venice Altamora true and they're all posting their pastas and I'm feeling influenced to have like a delicious pasta also we were talking about Sclinatella with the Bostics yesterday. Oh yeah, they went. Cause you know, she posted on her Instagram.

She said it's Blake Lively's favorite restaurant. I didn't know that. It's my favorite restaurant. It's so fucking good. But then like Morgan posted her pot. Let's go for lunch. Yes. Okay, cool.

We'll Patreon. Oh yes. We'll vlog it. Do you think they're open for lunch? It's also Sonia Morgan's favorite restaurant. I should do like a quick Google. Yeah. She said that like she lives nearby and it's like the best date night restaurant it's so good they

cook your pasta for you like right by the table it opens at noon oh my god and by the way it'll be empty for lunch you have the best panela vodka oh my god i can't wait do they do delivery no they do du jour now good one no i just feel like i've been in such a rut recently like all I order is Japanese or Chinese the same two places and like a couple maybe two weeks ago I was home alone and I'm like you know what I'm gonna treat myself and I did take out Mr. Chow and I had it for lunch the next day it was such a treat it was a million dollars but it was a treat you know not all the time but I gotta find some new places and if scalina tella delivered like i would be finished okay we'll we'll find out when we go for

lunch we'll ask i'm so excited okay ready for our next story yeah it's more backlash news oh you know these people i can't it's getting crazier and crazier no like just wait for just wait for this one sarah paulson reveals she regrets wearing a fat suit for the linda tripp role in impeachment american crime story after backlash sarah paulson is responding to the criticism surrounding her decision to play the role of linda tripp in the upcoming series impeachment which revolves around the bill clinton monica lewinsky scandal in order to transform into linda tripp the acclaimed actress gained 30 pounds, wore a nearly five pound fat suit. Wow, five pounds? Prosthetic teeth, no, like it weighed

five pounds on her. Oh. Prosthetic teeth, prosthetic nose, and a wig to emulate Tripp's signature 90s style helmet of blonde hair. Critics believe by taking the role, Paulson prevented a worthy actor with Tripp's larger body shape from getting the role in what will be the third season of American Crime Story. You're kidding. Mm-hmm. And in an interview with the LA Times, she didn't shy away from the controversy, admitting that she understands the criticism about the padded suit. She said, it's very hard for me to talk about this without feeling like I'm making excuses. There's a lot of controversy around actors in fat suits and I think that controversy is a legitimate one. I don't and

I'm a fat person so I feel like my opinion on this is more important than Sarah Paulson's. If Sarah Paul, if I am playing, okay here's a perfect example. I've just been cast in a movie Jackie. Isn't that exciting? So exciting. I'm playing Kate Moss. They just said I need to lose a little bit of weight just to be accurate seeing as how I'm gonna be acting as her right is that great news yeah who cares yeah you have to look like the person right it's it's not like it's a fictional story it's really crazy also then okay so say she was of you know the um the same body shape as Linda Tripp but now she's wearing prosthetic teeth maybe the role should have gone to an actress with Linda's teeth no honestly I have heard that

the people from the you know why like the the yellow teeth community are very upset and I've also heard that the people with you know the very slim nose community are upset that she wore a prosthetic yeah it's disgusting and they should have let someone with a slim nose have the role yeah no and she also had to wear a wig so it should have let someone with a slim nose have the role. Yeah. No, and she also had to wear a wig, so it should have been someone with the existing haircut. Your kid. Because they took away from a worthy actor with that haircut. A wig? A wig.

I'm done. No, this is, you guys. This is so absurd. I hate the world that we live in. It's gone too far. It's gone too far. I think conversations about, like, when people are cast, you know, there's finally like a gay role on Disney and they don't give it to like a gay kid. Like I understand that. Like

let the gay kid have the role. I really do. But this like for real, or like even when Jared Leto in that movie, he played someone transgender, like there's no roles for transgender people. Let someone transgender play the role i understand all of that but this weight it fluctuates so you could be fat you could be skinny it's so stupid people lose weight for roles all the time they gain weight so what they use a little special effects and by the way i'm allowed to say this i'm fat so i just want to say don't fucking come for me like oh so you're just allowed to have an opinion yeah that's true too yeah thanks for reminding me it's easy to forget no like what do i think i should have had this role yes yes am i no but you're too young and then the role should have gone to a worthy actor of linda's age no you know

what i should have gotten to linda yes that's what i was gonna say like honestly where is linda linda should be playing linda because no one else is Linda. And the fact that Linda didn't time travel back in time to look like her, what was she, like 40 years old at the time? It's disgusting. Yeah. This is so stupid. I literally like hate. They really made her look like her, though.

Let me see. Like, okay, so that's Linda Tripp on the right. Okay. And then that's Sarah Paulson as Linda Tripp. Oh, she's wearing a fat suit. Who cares? Yeah. I didn't know that fat suits were? Yeah. I didn't know that fat suits were

offensive yet. I didn't know that. No, but honestly, like, if this was me and I was Linda Tripp, like, I would just be annoyed that, like, you guys think I'm fat? Wait, she has to wear a fat suit? Right, like, that's, like, the only person who has the right to be offended is Linda Tripp being like, no, no, like, I'm not fat. And now everyone's talking about it. No, that's, you know what, we should really all just shut the fuck up just for Lindainda's sake yeah if this was me like in my biopic and like they're like you went to wear a fat how big was the fat right how much did she weigh wait so she had to gain 30 pounds like that would be like yeah that is fucking rude and embarrassing so leave linda alone also who's linda in the story? Linda is like the woman who was Beanie's like confidant, who Beanie was like telling everything.

Got it. Who Monica was telling everything about her relationship with the president. And Linda was recording it. I just have to say, I'm so excited about this show. Like, it looks so good. I just saw a review, a headline that wasn't positive. Really? So that means it's probably good.

Totally. Yeah. But also, just in terms of like this story that we're talking about I feel like and this is how I felt about the OJ show too Ryan Murphy is known at the end of the show for OJ Simpson and they did side by sides of you know the actors who played the actual real person I was floored like everyone did such a good job of looking and acting exactly like the person that they were playing and I feel like that's one of the best parts of a Ryan Murphy show so like okay

if he thought Sarah Paulson was the best person for the role should she have not gotten it because she's not fat like we're just trying to make a movie here you know or a tv show whatever yeah sometimes it ain't that serious yeah but. But I understand Sarah Paulson. She doesn't want to be upsetting the fat community. But Sarah, we're fine. Okay, good. I'm glad you let her know that. It takes a lot to offend the fat community.

Because we've been bullied our whole lives. But nothing can hurt us. Sticks and stones. I am rubber. You are glue. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Which is just like a bit of nonsense. Because all the stories are nonsense.

Is it? Yeah. This is the only thing that can make the final story better because it's the final story. Sorry, wait. This thing sucks. Okay. And you were so off. Off. You're like literally the guy from Step Brothers. But that's how bad it was. It's the final story. It's the final story. This story is not worthy of that song. Oh what's the story a sulling sunset star i think

we're gonna say something about sully i fucking wish that would be worthy they have heather ray's engagement party her bridal shower and all the stars turned out i don't see christine there no not everyone was there who wasn't there other than christine danica? Isn't that Danica on the right? Yeah, Davina. Yeah, it's Davina. It says it in the caption. Oh my god, Davina was there. Maya. Who's this girl? That must be a new girl. Chrishell. Oh, Amanza. Mary. Who's the girl on the left? Emma Hernan and tina oh tina do we know what tina so i guess these are the two new girls tina louise and my and um emma hernan so um i'd say this group of women is like the most best dressed like i know that's when i saw this picture i was like they are so like studying in best dress and it's like i'm sure it's like nice to have friends

who show up and show out for you. But, like, this could be anyone's bridal shower here. Yeah, except, like, Heather's the only one wearing white. Yeah. But I agree. Like, they outdid her for sure. Because she looks so cute. But just because, like, everyone looks amazing.

I'm really jazzed about. Really? Davina looks really incredible. And she's in the worst spot in the photo. She's, like, all the way at the end in the foreground. I'm really excited for the new season of Selling Sunset. I just hope that it's like, I feel like so much happens on Instagram and in the press with the Selling Sunset people because they're so famous.

And then like if we're watching a show, it's been so long since they filmed. If I'm watching something that happened like over a year ago, like no, I want to see Jason and Chrishell pretend to be boyfriend or girlfriend. Like that's what I'm interested in. So if we're not getting that and we wait till like next season and then they're both already like remarried to new people. Yeah. I'll be annoyed.

Yeah. Netflix does need to get better with that with their turnaround time. I agree. I hope it I hope it happens soon. And now that I know that people like you can do Love Island there's no reason like reality shows shouldn't have one week turnaround times. I agree. And the Kardashians should have been doing that forever.

Even like a month. Yeah. Like we were getting two days, like literally 36 hours later, we were getting episodes from Love Island. Yeah. It's really so crazy. It is so crazy. So anyway, she celebrated a fig and olive.

It also sounds delicious on Sunday for her bridal shower. Just a few more in Newport Beach. Just a few more months until she ties the knot to Tariq. Honestly, like they will be insufferable like during their wedding and all the pictures. I know and I feel like this bridal shower is like the kickoff for like the next month of them or a few months of them like thirsting out. And I feel like you know there's so many festivities you could have with a wedding. There's engagement party, bridal shower, bachelor party, bachelorette party. Not everyone does all of them. I didn't have an engagement party. Heather will not let one event go by unless no she's gonna go into every culture

weekly we'll be at every single one of them like yeah she's gonna find events she's gonna convert to judaism so she could have like a tish yeah tish and a bedeckin and a henna like she's just gonna have a million parties before she actually gets married. And you know what? I feel like Christine Quinn was literally on point in her criticism of Tariq and Heather just being like, it's like always something with their publicist, like fake paparazzi and like a million, our cupcake recipe. Like she was a hundred percent right. Like that's exactly who Heather is. A hundred percent.

And it's boring. I agree. And like Christine is too busy, like being fabulous, pushing her child around in a Louis Vuitton stroller to have to time for these events. Yeah. I just hope like it's you know I feel like whenever we take sides in like you know reality TV shows like we're always on the losing side. Like why is Christine the only girl not there? I don't know.

Maybe she wasn't invited. No I know that's what I'm saying. Or maybe she just didn't go. But I hope she doesn't like. Isolate herself. And her distaste for the ladies doesn't like just wind up her becoming irrelevant on the show. Right. But I hope she doesn't like. Isolate herself. For the ladies. Doesn't like just wind up. Her becoming irrelevant on the show. Right.

But she could never be irrelevant. No. She's literally the most interesting to look at. Yeah. And now she has this whole new life. With this man. And their baby. And their house.

Like I just want to know more. And like. I just like love that she settled down. Like so fast. It's the craziest. You know. Not like you know. She's not like Heather.

Like going after like the most famous like a simple guy who obviously loves her and I just I think we could all learn a lot from Christine Quinn. For a number of reasons

we could. Yeah. Well from one really good reality show to a terrible one this is going to be our TV recap segment

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Yeah, sure. I'm literally still struggling with altitude because I've got that altitude. She's got that altitude. So I'm sorry. There's meekness coming down my nose. Okay. Just give me a minute. We kicked off the last final and worst episode of Roni with Pin the Tail on the Dubin and Harry Dubin calls and everyone's

like being so in everyone's being so embarrassing I would say um can you guys can you hear her nice okay good so you have to hear what I have to hear um so it was just like really beyond stupid and nothing to say there then the rest of the episode is about how they're gonna, oh, they went to a Greek restaurant and they smashed plates and they talked about what they were letting go of. And they've all been saying the same things that they're gonna let go of for the last 50 years. Right.

And Sonia's letting go of asset management. And Leah's in love with her ex. Who knew? Plot twist. Plot twist. That was weird. I feel like she was, and she wasn't drunk actually because she's sober.

Like what, where the fuck did that come from? I don't know. I mean, I guess we never asked her how she felt about him, but I guess like she was and she wasn't drunk actually because she's sober like what where the fuck did that come from I don't know I mean I guess we never asked her how she felt about him but I guess like he she wanted more from him and I guess he like disappointed her in a lot of ways yeah and I guess she's kind of resigned herself to being just a co-parent until her daughter's old enough to like you know be on her own which is really sweet but I guess it you know every once in a while like she said it gets it gets to her, and she, like, you know, and that is really sad, like, she's such, like, a fabulous, vibrant woman, she deserves love, but she doesn't think that that's what it should be like right now.

Yeah, I just, like, can't really care. Okay, I'm just trying to tell you what happened. I'm just, I'm not moved or compelled by this story at all. Understood. I'm just not. Okay, then, oh, on the pin the tail of the doobin, they also all took their shirts off. I found that to be, like, really crazy. No, no. Talk about, like, last-ditch effort. Like, they think, like, oh, it's not a good episode. Let me show my titties.

Like, actually, no, we're all good. We've seen all of your titties a million times. You know, when you're drunk in Turks and Caicos, that's one thing. That's fine. Totally acceptable. But, like, literally in Ramona's Hamptons house in the tiny living room with like cameramen everywhere like and like the bright lights and just like brave it was really it was shocking to me I mean they all are like stunning and um breasts are lovely wonderful

breasts breasts aplenty it wasn't about you know whether the breasts were worthy or not it was just like what is going on no totally I think honestly like they were just trying to keep us abreast I felt very much kept abreast I really did okay so then after the Greek restaurant they come back to Ramona's house and they're all getting dressed up as each other which I have to say is like a really funny like premise and I thought it would it should have been funnier and but also it's something that could really go south but it took the other direction yes it could but they made sure to like poke fun at each other but then have that game where they say nice things about each other which was smart. Which was smart and sweet. They chose

people who have the most conflict to dress as each other which was you know again could have been scary but it all worked out. Ebony and Luann dressed as each other. Bershon and Sonia dressed as each other. Dressed the best. Okay best dressed was Ramona. Me too. Dressed as Leah and worst dressed was Leah who dressed as Ramona yeah like I feel like when when you dress up as someone like like the worst things you think about them come out and like literally like Leah can knock it over this blood plasma thing oh my god she can't get over it's over a year old so stupid and the dress like that was a Leah dress that wasn't Ramona's would never wear a short dress like that oh my god with her like butt hanging out like never she she never has she never would also Ramona doesn't

wear makeup what was with her face makeup there was none no and then like the Karen wig it was just not good it was horrific but Leah's costume Ramona's costume as Leah with the leopard and the gum and the hair it was great it. It was great. No, she was great. She committed. She was being funny. Oh, and she was having so much fun. She reminded me of me on Halloween where you just like the person,

the character takes over. No, she's looking in the mirror and she's like, I'm so hot, I want some cock. Like she was being funny. She was really funny. But Leah was a huge disappointment. The blood plasma,

like I need Leah to get the Q score reports back and find that that nobody cares that Ramona said she donated buzz plasma but probably was just getting her antibodies tested like and by the way like I I don't know I wasn't there at the you know medical center in Palm Beach but I'm almost 100% sure that Ramona really for a while thought she donated blood plasma like thought she did something when she actually just got tested for antibodies 100% I think the same thing too yeah because Ramona's not someone who really like lies she's not a liar she's just like silly yeah yeah so I was not here for it and also like just walking around with like an IV drip in this time it's like a little like out of touch out of touch it just felt a little

out of touch I don't know let's talk about out of touch when literally Leah was making a speech at the end that like this country could take a page out of touch. I don't know. Let's talk about out of touch. When literally Leah was making a speech at the end that like this country could take a page out of their book because they've all spoken about their differences. Like, no. Okay. It was annoying because it came from Leah. Yeah. But at the end of it, I kind of understood what she was saying.

No, I know. But like really out of touch. Like people should be looking to you guys. No, no, no. No one should. Okay. Yes. Agreed.

No one should be looking to them. No, but I agree. They've all worked past their differences and they all have different backgrounds. And they all have different opinions and they're having the time of their lives and so it can be done I don't know if the world should be looking at them for guidance but I thought it was a nice moment for sure and I thought she made a nice point again the world please do not look at um I thought that um it's so easy to do Countess. Like, just walk around in Giovanni. Like, she makes it so easy. But I thought that Luanne did a really good job of Ebony.

Yeah. Holding court with Ebony. I thought it was good. And the answers that everyone gave, and Bershon and Sonia were great. So funny. I thought Sonia was great as Bershon. I feel like Bershon could have done more as Sonia.

Yeah, I know. Because Sonia did so much. Sonia's never worn that outfit in her life. No, but I think her jacket was Sonya by Sonya Morgan, which is why Bershon thought she, like, completed the assignment. She didn't. It wasn't. No, it was uncompleted.

So then they all went around the table and answered questions, like, as their alter ego, which showed that they all understood each other more than the viewers probably thought. I know there were six women at the table, but the whole episode just really felt like there were none of, like it just felt like the smallest group of housewives and like so insignificant and like another trip to Ramona's.

It was just, it was atrocious. And honestly, I wish I could offer some insight. People are like bringing back Bethany and Dorinda, but honestly, like, I don't know if recycling old housewives is the move.

Like I think at some point, like the show has to like shed its skin and move on and like and find real affluent married people like not keep recycling the same people bring bethany back a third time like would you start fresh maybe i would keep ebony and i have a very soft spot in my heart for ramona and she's funny i'm sorry like i know everyone hates her but like she is fucking I would keep Ebony. And I have a very soft spot in my heart for Ramona. And she's funny. I'm sorry. Like, I know everyone hates her. But, like, she is fucking funny.

And she's entertaining. I would keep. Well, that's what the Dumois item said. What? That they're really shaking things up at NBC. And they would only keep Ramona and Ebony. I feel that. Like, honestly.

Because you know what, Sonia? Her time has come. And you know what? So has Luann. Like, I actually think Luann is in such. Luann would be friend of because NBC owns some of her cabaret fabulous Sonia's gotta go and honestly like Leah's not doing what she thinks she's doing and also I just don't think Leah leads an affluent enough life I'm sorry like this is a show about affluent people and Ramona as she works very hard to keep

that lifestyle Ebony has has that lifestyle like you need people with that lifestyle and the thing is that I think makes it really hard in certain cities is like and I think this is probably what goes on in New York like the actual like really rich married women of New York like do not want to be on TV like they are private their husbands don't want to be on TV their kids don't want to be on TV so I think that makes it difficult yeah but there are people who who would do it yeah and even like these ladies when we first met them they were those women yes which is why it's so crazy how far they've come but like when you think about all the women we've picked up along the way like none of them have really been like that girl like that lifestyle like Jules Weinstein like no you know what I mean

like sorry Cindy Barshop like no like when you think I just feel like they actually have a hard time finding women who will who have that lifestyle who will agree to be on TV yeah because when I think of all the one hit wonders people Kristen Taichman like who we've picked up along the way no I'm sorry I like Heather I think I would bring back Heather yeah but not if Leah was there she wouldn't come back Leah should not be there you think she? She's not it. But okay, she had one amazing season. Yeah, one bad. And one horrible one. So she's back at zero.

Okay. I like Leah. I feel like maybe, you know, when you do so well in your first season, you really think you can do nothing wrong. You get like an ego. And I think maybe she just like misread every situation. That's possible. Because she thought there was like no way that she could be wrong.

Yeah. And maybe this will be like humbling. Okay. And then if it's Leah, Ebony, and Ramona, they should each bring on one friend. Oh, that's interesting. And then also bring back Tinsley. I would bring back Tinsley.

Yes. Meh. Yeah. She wasn't even great when she was on. like the most interesting thing about her is that she left right and that was like kind of like the first time i since i met her on tv that i actually had respect for her yeah i agree so now she's gonna come crawling back stay gone yeah like no i see the thing is i don't know what the right me neither medication for this problem is like but it's a problem we're seeing in a lot of franchises because we're it's the same issue of like aging out of the original the shows have been on for so long it's very

formulaic women who when you when it first started you didn't know how big it was going to become like how your life would change either positively or negatively and it was just like a fun adventure and there were so many reality shows at the time like now you know exactly what to expect so who's going to come on and do anything that's going to paint them in a bad light then you just have boring shit happening right but if you do find a person who's willing to do that it makes a franchise jen cha like she acted even beyond her case like she acted atrociously yeah and it was amazing television so there are still people out there that's true but then for me like i do get to the point where it's like i would rather watch boring tv than watch these toxic people I know it's actually a really fine line yeah

it's a fine line like Dorinda yeah yeah well that's that on that there's no recap of New York next week finally halibut and and we'll see how many parts the reunion is yeah and then we have Beverly Hills on tonight which always just feels like a reward for a job well done on having watched New York. Completely. I also heard Back to Home Paradise last night was really good. Yeah. But I just couldn't watch two more hours of television after the three hours it took me to watch New York.

So maybe I'll watch it. But I'm glad I skipped a few episodes because it felt like I don't think anything really major happened. No, and I've just been living like so peacefully in my own mind knowing that I'm not watching that but if I do watch it I'm happy to recap it for you because it seemed like you liked my recap like yeah no you didn't I just I don't want you to feel pressure like I really read a book read a book I'm really not into Bachelor in Paradise oh wow okay so she's saying no I would rather you like explain to me like the woman who loved Wallace or whatever that

book was. You know what I mean? What was that book called? The Woman Before Wallace. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I can't really explain how like I don't, how much I don't care about Bachelor in Paradise. And you know what I've realized?

Like Bachelor in Paradise in terms of relevancy is really going down because it used to be like, like on TikTok especially especially like if somebody from bachelor and paradise or bachelor like made a tiktok about while the show was airing like about them like oh a bug flew on my face like whatever it would go viral now i keep seeing really sad contestants like trying to go viral who demi the only one who's actually doing a like a fair job but she's not even going crazy viral is tammy because she she's being funny and self-deprecating. And I don't even recognize some of these people. I just know that they're on Bachelor in Paradise

because they're hashtagging it. And it's not viral. It's actually really sad. That's really sad. That's how you know less and less people give a shit, especially people on TikTok. The young generation, they don't care. Also, TV recap.

I spoke a lot about it on the Patreon episode from last night. Oh my God. So I don't want to bore everyone. Okay, but I think it you need to double dip I watched she's all that you guys and it was fucking amazing like Addison is an absolute mega star like she the scenes that she wasn't in were atrocious and I was like this movie sucks but she was sparkle like I can't even she was such a good actress first of all second of all she deserves an oscar like it was so good i loved the element of the influencer i thought they did a really good job kind of explaining and showcasing how kids are these days in high school with social media

it's totally true it was just amazing i did not like the kid who played cameron her love interest and honestly he was like the worst fucking attitude Cameron, her love interest. And honestly, he was like the worst fucking attitude of all time. Like it's not cool to do photography. Like just get a phone. Like you're taking pictures of strangers. Like that's really invasive. And you're taking pictures of the garbage can. Yeah. And like, honestly, get a cell phone. Like it's not cool to like not love like people and cell phones. Like I just did not like his vibe at all. Yeah. But I thought, but Addison turned him around. Yeah. And Add Addison was so cute and sweet and I just really feel like she's a nice girl because her character was just like emanating niceness and so it was actually she's not like

such a you know experienced actor so she had to play someone who was kind of similar to her yeah and it was actually like a hard sell that she you know had this bet going that there was like this side of her that was even that ruthless because she's just such a sweetie. I loved the ending. I loved the homage they paid to the original movie because her mom was in it. The principal was the guy from the real world in the original movie. They both wore red dresses.

There was a dance off at the prom. It was very subtle but sweet. And I really loved that they actually cast the mom. I thought she was great. And I just loved every minute of it. Yeah, but even like when they went to the party, gatsby themed party and he gets um he goes in the pool like that's like when oh yeah in the first movie she falls in the pool yeah or they push her in the pool i think she they put they what that girl taylor pushes her yeah and then in not another

teen movie they also pour bottles of water on her. Jackie I literally confuse He's All That with Not Another Teen Movie all the fucking time. Yeah there's a lot of movies in there that are make it confusing. Yeah that they're like doing satire on and I'm like was that the original or the satire? Yeah no it's Cruel Intentions. Bring It On. Yeah that's such a good movie. Such a good movie. I'm so glad you watched it and that you liked it and that you had the same opinions of me including um the stylist sabotage oh yeah the wardrobe the the wedge the budget for the wedges was literally astronomical because it was a new pair of like wedges that Ramona Singer wears in Cancun like it's just not a thing like burn all the wedges yeah what did you think about Courtney oh my god you know I actually thought she was pretty good.

Yeah. Her role was bigger than anticipated, but still very small. And I thought that, you know, she wasn't as cringy. I saw her act in Dave and it was really fucking cringy. And I feel like she took a couple lessons because she was pretty good. Yeah. She was believable. Believable.

And it's crazy like how her like, you know, influence in the movie, like she was a big part of the storyline. Bunny Venom. Yeah. Venom Bunny or whatever. Yeah, yeah bunny or whatever yeah so cute i loved it and i cannot wait to see addison act in something else i know it was so good you guys and i have no time for anyone who thinks otherwise same um but we do have time for our interview with michael and lauren bossick it is coming up i hope you guys enjoy it and we are on their podcast i believe that drops tomorrow but

don't quote me on that um but in the meantime just just enjoy this episode and the interview with Lauren and Michael. We'll see you soon. Bye. Well, welcome back to the toast. We are so excited to be sitting down with a couple who literally has all my love and respect because I'm going to start this off with a story. So hello, Lauren. Hello, Michael.

Welcome to the podcast. Hello. Also welcome Michael's hair. Yes. I like respect. We'll see how it goes. Let me tell you why. Okay. So what was it a month ago? Maybe more. Jackie was somewhere's hair. Yes. Respect. We'll see how it goes after this. Let me tell you why. Okay.

So what was it? A month ago, maybe more. Jackie was somewhere. Oh, yeah. She was out of town. And instead of taking the week off, I was like, let me do the show with guest co-hosts. And I got Taylor Strecker and people who were in town, my friend Brian Kelly, the points guy.

And then I ended it with my husband because people love when Ben comes on the podcast. And of course, it's easy for me. We could take a cab together. And I have a lot of trauma from that one particular episode because, know me and Ben were just talking like we usually do I didn't really think much of it and when I posted the episode like the backlash was so real they were like you guys did not stop fighting you're so mean to Ben and I'm like what I'm like we were just doing our usual thing and I vowed seriously to never do a podcast with Ben again even though I was thinking like I'm actually starting a separate podcast on Toast News Network with Ben idea trash like I will I have so much trauma I will never podcast with Ben again and the fact that you guys not only

podcast together own a business together do literally everything on planet earth together like respect together on the daily and still we actually don't people think that about us we I work on the skinny confidential and he works on dear media and we come together to podcast people think we work together all day long we don't okay but to even podcast i actually heard you say that i listened to your episode with sofia with an f and i listened to both and i love them love her yeah love but even the fact that you do a podcast weekly together as man and wife is admirable. Eight times a month now.

Two episodes a week. Yeah. Commendable. But I have a nervous breakdown like at least three times a month. Last night we went to Scalina Telly. I like blacked out basically and just like laid into him for like two hours. Lauren holds all her rage for like two months. That's healthy.

And then we go out to what I think will be a romantic nice dinner. It's such a romantic restaurant. Yes. And it's small in there. And it's quiet. And people are like, what is this wife doing? I have a hot tip for anyone who wants to just like let it out. Go to a small intimate restaurant.

So if the guy tries to talk back you can you can say just bitching him and he's embarrassed because if he says anything it's gonna look like you're fighting yeah so you can just let it all out unleash all your rage and if he says anything he's too embarrassed in front of yeah we live in a very sexist society yeah yeah like i my question for you is like how do you deal with people commenting on the dynamics of your relationship because honestly not a lot off a lot offends me, but, like, my marriage is very personal to me. And it bothered me a lot that people were commenting, like, you're being mean. Like, you guys don't sound bickering. Like, shut up.

We have a great marriage. Like, that's one thing, like, if you come at me for it, like, that actually gets to me. It hurts me. Like, how does that not bother you? I don't read my own press clippings. So what I mean by that is I try not to read all the positive because that I think feeds my ego and I try to not read the negative. And that comes with a long time of doing this. I've been blogging for 13 years. So it's very easy to get wrapped up in

yourself and thinking, oh, you're so great. and it's very easy to get into the negative reviews so true so I just feel like I love connecting with my community I dm I voice note all the time like if people dm me I'll try to voice note but I really try not to get stuck in the reviews and when someone's commenting on my marriage I think the unlock is that they don't know every single part of my marriage. They see a piece of my marriage. So if they want to comment, like that's their prerogative. Right.

Also, like for people who comment that like you're bickering and you're married, like then they're clearly not married because that's just what being married or they haven't been married long because like that's you get into like a rhythm. Like that's not helping. It turns me on. It makes me hot. Like what do i want to sit with like mr boring that doesn't have a personality like throw me the ball back yeah yeah there's two things i don't comment on with people's personal life their relationship or their parenting right

because i think it's so different for everybody and what people could maybe see lauren and i and listen we get heated sometimes and like she is a very outspoken aggressive loud woman i mean that with respect of course what do you love about me though and like that's a very outspoken aggressive loud woman i mean that with respect and like that's what i fell in love with personally like that's like what gets me going right like that's that's what i was attracted to and i think people see that like i would never be like that with my husband and maybe their husband wouldn't like it if they were but for us like that's i mean we've been together since you know we were 20 years old 21 years old we met when we were 12 like clearly it works for us.

Right. But I would never say this formula would work for anyone else. And I also tell everybody, like, please, please do not work with your significant other. And like, unless you're both 100 percent on the same page, because it is very fucking hard. Yeah. I guess the way we feel about you guys working together, like we would never do that is the way people feel about working with their sisters.

But it's like, how the fuck would you literally work with anyone but your sister? Uh huh. That is a very, very self-aware thing what you just said I thank you for saying that I always try and be self-aware that's like the one thing I want people to describe me as a self-aware is such a sexy word and you know what's not sexy not being self-aware that's the worst thing you could be yeah I agree I totally agree um I feel like Jackie and I talked about you guys a lot during quarantine because you moved like you did what everyone should have done. A lot of people moved in 2020, but I don't think any move hit me like yours did, like where just I would say my complete

another jealousy just took over. So did you guys move because of COVID? Were you planning to move before the pandemic ever? And why Austin? This is what happened. And you might be experiencing this. I got pregnant. And when I got pregnant, you get super in tune and super intuitive. And I remember walking down the street and in LA, there's like construction going on and there's a lot of homeless, like there's a, there's a problem there. And it's a lot of sounds, ambulances. It's, it's a lot of sounds ambulances it's it's a lot of cortisol it's triggering it's triggering and I was thinking I'm like do I want to be walking a stroller down the street and the answer is no I mean I remember literally I stepped on like not like with bare feet but with my shoe a heroin needle like outside our house like it was it

just was a lot of I'm gonna say cortisol where we lived listen I'm not talking about all of LA talking about where we lived so I started to crave more nature more sanctuary more of a family home that my daughter could grow up in and also it's it's what you can get in LA compared to Austin. It's like so crazy. Crazy. And so he recommended Austin. And the second I went there, I was like, this is it. You know, a lot of people in California are going to get really pissed at me. Like obviously we were born and raised San Diego, which I think what people don't realize about California is it's so big and there's so many different pockets, right? There's like San Diego, then there's Orange County, then there's Los Angeles. Then you get up to NorCal and you have Napa and you have all these places, San Francisco.

And all of these places are like vastly different because it's a massive state. And so I don't want to just shit on all of California. People get mad at me. But like L.A. is a fucking shit show. It's not. And it's something died this year in L.A. and it's not coming back for a long time. People are gonna be so mad at me. Like you're talking to somebody who's like born and bred, lived in California forever.

I mean, we are the exact same way. But about New York like born and bred lived in california forever i mean we are the exact same way but about new york born and bred we've lived here forever something died here you know we're like at least for me like a self hating new yorker at this point i think new york it's in some ways you know it's come back and there's life in certain areas but in so many ways it's like not going to be the same for a very long time when we moved to la we went brief like i say briefcase mentality we didn't get we didn't get caught up in like the nightlife going out social life like it was their work not working your media but like i never thought like hey i want to i can't wait to raise a family here and then honestly like with covid and the riots like at one point i had to debate and listen this isn't again not political but just true i had to debate like do i go and help our sister who's down the street on you know melrose with a cop car flipped over and burning or do i stay

with my wife and kid with helicopters flying around i'm like i gotta have one year old like why do i want this and personally like growing up i feel like i've always been called to a place like texas my favorite authors were larry mcmurtry and cormac mccarthy and i read all these western books and like my dad or something like out back back that way in the mid midwest and like just following these stories and I feel like I just like as soon as I got to text I'm like oh my soul and this sounds weird is like alive again and I feel happy you're speaking you're speaking like our language I was just like why like this is like what happiness is to me and it's in the middle and it's between and I just feel like it's dead quiet there's not I want you to actually imagine this.

There is not one sound besides the bugs chirping. Well, here's the other thing. It is like. It's gorgeous. It's gorgeous. We're in a red state, but in a blue progressive city, which kind of gives a nice melting pot of different perspectives and different people. When I first got there, so weird.

You got in the neighborhood and like people wave to you and say hello. Michael. Hold on. This is Michael. Michael's with his coffee he's like morning this motherfucker goes around the street i'm not just morning oh my god that's so welcoming it's polite people are happy great music scene great food scene like there's culture there like i just felt like this is where i want to raise a family also this is so nuts in la the baby when we stay there will not go outside

for a week yeah like she just will stay inside and here she this is so crazy jackie's gonna like is it down here with you she is she's here she's she's grounding like she'll go outside and put her feet on the grass and she touches trees and it's i know this sounds so crazy look it up it's called earthing and grounding it's so good for you to touch the earth every morning. And I know this. No, by the way, I believe that for sure. Yeah. I know that sounds like it.

Here's the sacrifices. I mean, if you live in the big, let's say like San Francisco, LA, New York, Chicago, like bigger cities in the country, like, okay, I will pay higher cost of living. I'll be in a smaller space. I'll be on top because there's ease of access. There's great restaurants. There's business opportunities, all these things. Yeah, i'm going to pay more tax all these things all those are factors but you're willing to kind of like make sacrifices because the opportunities exist to do different things you start taking those

opportunities away you start making it dangerous or too expensive or whatever restaurants go out of business yeah you're like you make it you take the fun out of it. You're like, why the fuck am I doing this? Like, just go to a place where you can enjoy life a little more. I feel like every New Yorker has that moment

where they're like, like chasing a cockroach out of their apartment or like hunting down a mouse and they're looking around at their tiny, shitty apartment and they're like,

why do I live here? And that feeling comes and goes, but I feel like during COVID it was really hard to ignore that feeling because like, you know, New York,

you live in tiny, ugly, disgusting apartments, but there's so much life outside that you never really even noticed because your apartment, you're only there, you know, an hour a day.

Yeah. We never had time to sit and self reflect because everything's go, go, go. And with COVID you had to take a really honest look at yourself. And everyone just fled. Yeah. Everyone just fled.

Like the cockroach. That won't flay. Yeah. I also like, do youach that won't fling. Yeah. I also like, do you guys know your human design? No. What the hell is that? I'm going to send you the link. You got to get your human design. Okay.

I'll do a Patreon. I was just going to say that. We love doing like, we love taking personality tests like on our podcast. I bet your community, I bet you a lot of them know the human design. What does it tell you? It tells you like what kind of energetic, I'm probably flubbing this person that you are. So my human

design is a reflector the energy that someone gives me I reflect back to them and I think with LA vortex I just steal everyone's energy is that there's like a manifestor generator like I bet you like that's what you are are you guys do you guys know your enneagrams no I got you don't every podcaster should know their enneagrams what else do you do on these that's disgraceful that we don't know our enneagrams i'm an enneagram one so that's like type a but i'm not but sure and she's enneagram three which is like people pleaser yeah hold on you don't think you're type a no i think it's so weird about self-awareness in so many respects like i am and even in the things that we talked about and there's so many things i'm like extremely like meticulous about but i'm also like the

laziest bitch alive like i literally packages an empire packages sit in my foyer for like days until there's eight and i'm like okay i'll open them all at once you gotta delegate you gotta hire an assistant that helps you open them oh no but like why can't i open my packages when they come i don't know because you don't want to ruin your nails no but like it's it's really crazy how like I don't do things like when I need to do them with emails or just like I don't get back to people like and that's not type a personality at all focused your energy towards building what you want to build like you're pushing the boulder up your empire not worried about what other people are type a is you're doing what you want to do i think that's my definition of it like and you know obviously

you can be respectful in that process but like you're basically waking up being like you're incredible my way or the highway you don't think you're type a i've never seen you should have seen the way that i planned it like i was so indecisive i never like had a vision about what i wanted it to be so when i had to make these decisions i was like that one like whatever it doesn't really matter they're both pretty they'll both be fine like everyone listening not think she had the craziest coolest most spectacular fucking wedding ever no I totally agree but like that was a shock to me when that happened because of the planning process it was like it was a clusterfuck like and I was not I didn't have you know like printouts and spreadsheets like I would show up to everything with like a fanny pack like what are we doing guys like

what's on deck for today so I feel like I present myself as very type a but on the inside like I'm kind of chaotic totally you know I feel like when it comes to like outward presentation like I want to be perceived as like having it together you look like you have it together like your hair the way like how you're dressed every single time I've ever seen like yeah i get yeah but like i still like this like i'm not putting on so something i don't i confuse myself are you gemini no i'm scorpio oh another confusing thing we've talked about actually i was about to say i'm like not like a passionate person but it just depends on the subject yeah sure sure yeah i'm like a cancer to a t it's like you

cancers are like mean to everyone and then if someone's mean to them they like cry like that's me you're dishing it but not taking it that's me to a t i love it so what are you crazy gemini what oh that's like the nuts one right yeah michael never knows what he's gonna get oh like like twins like two face right last night at dinner right right right you know let's see who i got today yeah life is always an adventure life is always an adventure you also just recently was it your second book yes i put out my second book get the fuck out of the crazy i wish you guys were in it i am so we i wanted to be i'm so sad we don't have enough skincare like we're gonna talk about skincare in a little bit and like you're gonna be so disappointed because there's certain things

i'm looking at on your faces no yes in good or bad ways good oh good good good no no good hold on like i want to know what your eyebrow filler in there is i want to know what your mascara is no but like claude has a glow i don't buy it that you guys do nothing no we do so i do i have like a lotion that i use every night but like what i do is not nearly involved enough to be like interesting for your book. Because I read through all the questions. I was like, I don't have the answers. I read through all the questions too. And like I honestly like if I'm going to be like really honest with my friends here, like

I forgot to respond. Okay. Let me tell you something though. The fat Jew was in it and he was brutally honest. Like he actually was like, what the fuck is a toner like he was so so honest is a toner the toner is something that tightens and shrinks your pores it's like at what point in the night do you do it you can after moisture after you wash your face okay do you do it every night sometimes no i don't do it every night i'm not i sometimes sleep in my makeup

i'm not like trying to pretend like things are perfect okay good i'm actually incredibly chaotic yeah well I just want to say like I'm really sorry I never responded because I did want to be in your book but like I I genuinely forgot no no honestly I think though that people that weren't in the skincare world like they didn't like you said they didn't which is fine like I'll share that I use like a product before I put on my makeup and then after I shower I put on a face cream that I like don't tell anyone because we're going to talk about we're going to talk no but so I'm saying like like the just my our routines aren't in depth enough and when it comes to the glow like it's makeup I know but when it comes to the glow it's sweat no it's like the glow is looking great like people always say like that my skin like is so like glowy and this not like you should see me before I put my makeup

on like it's rosacea it's freckles it's like and especially now like being pregnant it's it's freaky and it's nothing like this but we do have relatively good skin and people do always ask us like routines and i have like a small routine it's nothing crazy but at the end of the day and like no one wants to hear this answer like we both have good skin because we really it's just in our genes like for so long i didn't even wash my face like i literally used to take my makeup off and go to sleep like not even use the cleanser like and i never even got pimples. At some point, it's just genetics. And we just have good skin and hair in our jeans.

Do your husbands do a routine? Nothing. My husband uses Jack Black stuff. He likes that brand, the blue bottles. Jack Black, like the guy? Separate. But the brand is just called Jack Black. When I first met Michael, he was using Old Spice shower gel. And I had to really come in. How the hell did I know bad yeah that's bad that was bad i was like whoa now he has

a fucking 10 step oh ben has literally a zero a negative four step well maybe we can like get ben drunk off spritz and give him a dr dennis vitamin c by the way he'd be down but like he can't even remember to like take his wallet with him before he leaves the house. Like how's he gonna remember to do a four-step routine before bed? I forgot my wallet too. He sounds like me. Yeah, no,

he's just very forgetful. And he also has good skin. So he's like probably if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And he once said to us, he's like, you guys do all this stuff

and like you have crazy like pimples and stuff. He was like, and I don't do anything. And my rationale is like, well, I have to wear this much makeup every single day

and like that fucks with you. And then you have to do something to offset the consequences of that while you're sleeping at night. There's that meme that exists. It's on the internet. And it's like that troll. And it says a girl after a 10-step routine.

People get mad at me. 10-step and then this glowing guy. And it's the guy that used the same soap that he washes balls with. It's literally true. Here's a tip. I've noticed a lot of people use the same towel that their husband wiped their balls with on their face after they cleanse it you cannot use a ball

sack towel on your face i actually did learn that from you i have like a now a separate towel that just stays by my sink that doesn't get used like as a towel from the shower it's just a face towel you can't wipe your butthole and then put it on your face that's what we've been doing my husband and i have separate towels separate colors that's like that's a oh separate color yeah yeah they don't they don't they're not cohesive looking at all like he's like his towels from still when he was a bachelor and i just got like light blue ones i like but it yeah sometimes when it makes me mad i sneak in the bathroom and just wipe my balls with every towel i use baby wash cloths what is going on with my skin i'm breaking out like i have no idea no no no no no no the weather

here is a little difficult on the skin i'm a little puffy yeah some zits going on hyperpigmentation have you noticed like a difference in your skin since moving to the country i feel like it's like the air would be so good for your skin everything's just more relaxing yeah and obviously there's things with i'm sure every city that i'm not saying it's perfect but it's very ideal like it's very um it's very pretty to wake up and take a walk and be able to do even like a conference call like outside and walk around and with the baby so how long before you moved were you planning on moving like we literally like started talking about it went out in november November during the time of election. I saw the house and I looked at him and I go, go kill the tiger.

Oh my God. We put an offer in that day. Never really knew. How are you guys so decisive? We've been talking about literally making an appointment at the dentist for three years. You know, I think it was, Lauren and I look at it. Also with the kids, there's a time, soon she's going to realize she doesn't leave her house that true jacob trembley in room yeah i think like lauren and i are like we're not we don't need to know the next 10 years of our life we'd like to know where we're going a

little bit but we're also like hey let's take an adventure let's see if it doesn't i don't want to do choose something i don't want to live in the same house my whole entire life i want it i want to be well i want to live a spontaneous life right now. I live in Austin. Who knows? I could live, you know, in Florida. I could live. I want to be spontaneous and, and fly by the seat of my pants.

Yeah. How has moving now that you've moved, like how has it affected your relationship? Like it, was it everything that you thought it was going to be? Are there like challenges that you didn't foresee? I think it's, I think I don't want to speak for you, but I think we're in a better place now during the first move when it was back and forth LA with a kid and all that, like it was chaotic. You're like, Oh my God, did we make the right decision? But now that we have our roots in one place and we can like, like, we'll do this. We'll come to New York. We'll work, work, work. We'll

go to LA, work, work. After this, we're going to Texas and we're just like, we're just gonna be at home with our family, like living. Right. So I think in a lot of ways it made us closer because you do this thing together where you like up and leave your entire family, your entire city. It's not familiar. Like, you know, it bonds. You only have each other. Yeah. But, you know, I'm not going to say it's for everybody and it's super easy.

Like I'm not a big going out networking, like party type person. I've real, as I've like gotten older like i just love a leisurely lunch like a long leisurely lunch or like a 6 p.m dinner i'm like you know i like to be in bed if i'm being honest at like max nine o'clock i think a common misconception lauren and i is that we're like these really social people that are out and about i feel like that's the vibe i get too but we're not right like and it's very limited what i tell people doing we do the show eight times a month and we're having these conversations all the time and as you guys know like this is a lot of interacting a lot of paying attention a lot of socializing a lot out of your like soul so then

like you give so much of yourself then yeah and then people after all they're like hey do you want to go to a dinner and like do small time like i just did all of these all weeks and i want to go home with my family and like read a book and chill out and watch a podcast today and i was trying to explain it i was trying to say like it's like going to dinner for an hour with four different people sober yeah yeah isn't that how it is yeah but you know what's so funny after whenever we're podcasting with someone like most people i'm like we need to get dinner after this like there's so much we need to like there's certain people of course like there's certain like yes of course there's some guests that you like have a connection with like we talked about this offline taylor strecker is like such a

an angel energy you guys have great energy um but it's not everyone that you want to get to know it yeah and also usually when we do guest segments like it's 15 20 minutes like but you guys are doing like an hour and do you have guests mostly every episode we have guests i would say 80 some are solos i like doing a solo episode of course you're not gonna like everyone that you meet but we met some real fucking duds yeah of course yeah and so if we have someone on the show like we usually say no to most guests so if someone's coming on it's like we really want to talk to them and usually like they meet our expectations who's the best guest you've ever had like who you just you want to just keep having on you think that they're just dynamic charisma the majority of our guests like we we've met before

like we really enjoy and then sometimes you know there's a lot but the majority is like you've gone through like i really want to talk to this person ahead of time who's your best guest honestly like we we just had kevin o'leary on the show and he was he gave everything he gave us everything he came in costume he did a wine tasting for his o'leary on the show, and he was just – He gave everything. He gave us everything. He gave us everything. He came in costume. He did a wine tasting for his O'Leary wines. He wanted to talk about everything. Cancel culture, politics.

Like, he was literally – and he just – we usually do, like, 20 minutes with guests. He just sat and talked and talked. He made it so easy. He was everything. That's a really good answer. I totally agree. Oh, my God. I have to listen to that episode.

And now we've had three sharks on the show. Barbara, Damon, and – Kevin. Kevin, yeah. And you loved them all. god i have to listen to that and now we've had three sharks on the show barbara damon and kevin kevin and you loved them all barbara was uh and i mean this in the nicest way possible enough like she was just all over the place she's like exactly who she is on tv but like 10 times more energized she was really cool and damon is just smart like i just wanted to like sit him down and ask him questions like how do i grow my business i bet you they would give you answers you guys should go on Shark Tank I feel like you'd be perfect we've talked back in the day we would always like think of our business like everything we know about business is from Shark Tank like truly and we used to always think of our business of how it like look would present

on Shark Tank and there were a few times we would talk about on the show where it's like should we go on Shark Tank um now like no we probably wouldn't but that's definitely like really influenced how we do business 100 i love how you guys are so much about pop culture and and using it like as leverage and to your advantage in your book i feel like you talked about that a lot how you couldn't kind of find out what you wanted to do and then you realized what you wanted to do was pop culture you love watching tv i mean it's you've made a business out of it yeah me and jackie talk about this a lot i feel like one of the really like our a big advantage we have when it comes to the podcasting space is like you know everyone has a podcast now and like there's a big reality show

and a star comes out of it and everyone goes and does all the podcasts me and jackie like especially jackie like because she has a better memory than me, we have been watching reality TV, been engaging in celebrity culture. We've been on social media since we were kids. Yeah, you guys are practitioners. We know everything. And that's just a natural part of who we are. That's why we got into this line of business.

And I really feel like that's a huge benefit for us when it comes to recapping, because it's a natural thing. If we're sitting on our couch, we're talking about Real Housewives of New York so why don't we just record it you know and I feel like the community that you guys have cultivated to they are also like the same kind of way like this is such a nice outlet for someone who loves to watch all these things right where I feel like at most times it's like a negative like you watch so much reality tv it's like my guilty

pleasure it's trash like no no it's an art it's and we respect it it is but sometimes it's trash you know who just had on the show who was literally just saying this and like talking about like it is a performance it is an art you have to bring it we had spencer pratt on perfect example he's been on your show i've listened yes and he was talking he's like listen not to bash the hills but he's like people aren't fucking bringing it like he's like they need to bring it he's like season two he's like this and he really like gave this whole history of his entire experience in the world of reality and he's been there for forever right and i'm excited for it to come out because it's a really for me it was extremely interesting to talk to him like oh why do some shows work and some don't why do some cast work and some other cast don't yeah and he was like listen he's like people need to fucking

bring it when they go on these shows because it is a form of entertainment and art i think he's a real like real true blue reality star he gets it he is loose he is out there and he's loose right now yeah that's a perfect example of it like it's not it's a performance right and it's art and it should be treated as such and at the morning toast like we're not going to call it your guilty pleasure like it's just something good to watch like you know what else is good we didn't talk about this on our show siesta key yes love oh my god it gets better and better i'm so invested the fact that sam and juliet are broken up i feel so upset they broke up in real life yeah they broke up a few weeks ago and and then he's been like posting with another

girl and now she's in paris and it's like i don't think they're getting back together and i'm just coming to terms with it hold on is this for the show or you really think they broke up it didn't even happen on the show it happened like on social media i really think they broke up? It didn't even happen on the show. It happened like on social media. I didn't see. I know I didn't see it on the show, but maybe are they trying to tease the next season? I don't think so. She's my favorite. She's my favorite.

I love her. My only issue. I love her so much. So my only issue with her on the show is like whenever she's on top, she always fucking ruins it. Like she doesn't know how to. She always is like coming back from being like the underdog or like everybody's mad at her and she has to like you know crawl back and like say all her apologies and then she gets back and she like doesn't know how to be on top with grace you

know and what do you mean like she doesn't know how to handle like like her inning yeah you know like her bathing suit line which she's done is pretty impressive oh my god I know I got one it was so cute yeah and I got it like when i was like turning pregnant so like i gave it to my little sister for a little bit um but it was so cute it was such good quality and it came really quickly yeah i like how i like what she's done but like the beginning of this season like she's with sam and like you know kelsey is like apologizing so profusely because kelsey fucked up big time and like she has so many friends everybody loves her and like she's the narrator of the show and like she goes and hits kelsey and it's like you have so much to lose what are you But maybe it makes better reality television.

Yeah, I think she probably bears the brunt of like most of that. Like the burden of making the, she is the main character. And she has been for a while. And she has to get drunk and do crazy things. And I imagine that takes a toll on you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a drain suck of energy.

She said it on the reunion too. She did. Oh, my God. I thought that was so telling. Yeah. When she was like it's hard being on reality TV. And everyone was like tiny violins. But I think she was trying to say something what spencer was saying

he's like even some of the like if you think about the villains and the people that are like out there he's like some of them should even just be paid more than the regular cast because they're the ones that like create the environment for the chaos to ensue yeah and so like people will look at spencer and be like this guy's the villain but without like imagine the hills without him this season right like what do they do and it's just like, let's go to lunch and let's go to dinner. Right. Cause also at this point, like it's a pretty formulaic and everybody like knows, like if you can come off well and people like you, you can have a lot of success, but like, you know, if you're the villain or the overt villain, like you're not going to be that person.

So like, it's a fine line of like being playing it safe but being not boring and being well liked and only few people really like are able to accomplish all those things what's like a jax taylor or um or what's the what's the other james like you can't duplicate those people yeah yeah i know he gets so much shit i'm sorry he's amazing he's perfect tv he's hilarious you can't look away you can't look away and then james kennedy comes in it's like these two people's like how do you turn away i'm actually really excited for vanderpump this season really yeah i am why what do you know well i just think that we're gonna be pleasantly surprised about the dynamics of what goes on and i think if you're getting scared don't

be i'm definitely scared too because it's been so long now i miss them i love lala i just can't i could just watch on my screen forever you know who i like love so much and i like have a crush on him and i told him in front of lala tom schwartz randall randall he like i get it he is so funny he loves her so much he just came on our podcast and he was crying like on the podcast about how much her alcohol addiction affected him and he's so real and refreshing to me did you read her book yes oh my god so good i liked her book a lot it was like a really easy reading but like also went below the surface of and like talking about like the alcohol and the stuff that like she had done did to randall that i think like none of us knew there was like some

really crazy you guys have to read the toothbrush he just came on and like he obviously was like crying a little bit like it really hurt him right and yeah and you could see like when like that's a real relationship right like it wasn't like a tv no they're there that's a ride or die couple yeah i know i also just feel like if the show doesn't end up this season of Vanderpump Rules being what it needs to be, like Lala really needs to elevate and get on Beverly Hills Housewives. Yes. Like she's honestly too good for this group. Oh my God.

I could totally see her. Like they're living in tiny apartments like and she's literally the queen of Beverly Hills. Why don't you guys go on Real Housewives of New York? You know, it was always like a goal of mine. That's why I got married. But now none of the housewives are married, so the joke's on me. But also, I had been reached out to once

by a casting person asking if I knew anyone. And I'm like, yeah, me. And then I never heard from them. I would love to mix you into the crowd. Like, I think forever that was the dream. But now when we think about reality TV, like, we would never do it. Yeah, that's what Michael and I said, i said too honestly there's not nearly enough money

in it for like how embarrassing it is well the guys never end up well on those things anyways the husbands on the house like name a husband that's ended up well also like why like hang the husband out to like you know like he needs to be kept in the cupboard yeah or they're like either the husband like comes off like so bad or it's like you come off bad in the way that you treat your husband. That's literally my cross to bear. Okay. But you know, like I also think like what at this stage, right?

Like I think there's different states, but at this stage, both with what you've built, kind of with what we built, like I control these environments. You control the environment. Yeah. I need it. Yeah. There's not like, you honestly could, there's not a dollar amount that you could like, I'm like, I have a good environment now

that I don't have to worry about some guy going and like showing me like off mic, like doing something weird. I just don't want, I don't need to deal with that. It's not worth it. And I think if like there was a time, it would be like when we were still building our business. Yeah.

And we needed it. And now we don't. And you take risks, but now you just have like too much to lose. And also with all due respect to everybody does it because I do partake and do watch and like obviously huge fans but i i don't want maybe this is i'm a dad now i don't want people coming up to my daughter and be like oh your dad is that reality guy and i'm not saying there's anything wrong i'm just saying like yeah i won't

cry again every time i talk about the baby i just like i just think that like there's other things i would like to be known as in her eyes. Yeah. Right? And, like, not have people, like, put a stamp of, like, yeah, or that. Or just say, like, hey, like, he has to be this thing. Do you have a name picked out for the baby? I have a name that I really like.

Zach, like, really isn't crazy about it. So I don't know how that's going to work. No one cares what they think. I couldn't agree more. It's literally not your decision. He really cares. Like, he thinks this is like equal decisions i mean i don't know how i could really just i need to learn from you how to just like and be like it's his idea that's not true we like both came to it like there were some names that got scrapped that we both couldn't agree on what were they or

are you going to use one that we that we scrapped um shit what's when we scrapped i'm trying to think i don't think there was a lot of different names that we had for zaza zaza was always zaza yeah we i mean there was more like just i think like more traditional like just conversation of names yeah that he shut down like when i said prune yeah oh man i used to eat prunes when i was constipated as a kid. No, prune. There was another, prune was one. Prune because I feel like it's like,

Klaas is looking at me like she was so glad I shut down all items. It's kind of cute. I shut down all items. She doesn't like it. All items. All items from her. I think that's good.

I like a super unique name that's one or two syllables because I like it to be easy for consumers to pronounce. There's nothing worse when you don't know if someone's name is like 20. Like you don't know how to say it. Do you know what I'm talking about? Have you ever heard of a name like that that you just don't know how to say? Yeah.

I wanted it like what if she wants to launch her own brand? Of course. Like it's so easy. No, she's an icon. Like she's born an icon. Do you guys? Like I wanted a new name that no one was using but easy to pronounce. Do you guys watch Friends?

Accomplished. Friends? No, I was more of a Seinfeld person. Okay, because when Rachel and Ross have a baby, there's this episode. It's actually the funniest episode of television ever. And you guys are Rachel and Ross. Like Rachel wants weird names like Sandrine. And Ross just wants like normal names like Darwin and like James.

And it's literally the funniest episode and they land on the name ruth because it's a family name and at the end of the episode when they finally name on it they're like okay we'll have ourselves a little baby ruth oh and then they never had they never named the kid ruth because it's a candy bar but they had the baby right baby oh baby it's a candy bar i got it after this whole episode they finally land on a name and they're like baby ruth i need to watch Friends in Seinfeld. Lauren's extremely flamboyant. You need to watch Friends.

You don't need to watch Friends. Yes, you do. So she sometimes needs some editing, in my opinion. I'm like, we are not going with Prune. I will literally throw myself off a bridge. If someone listening names their baby Prune, will you tag me in it? Prune is a cute name. Can I say it's kind of growing on me?

It is. It's growing on me. Prune is chic. I know. But I just think naming your kid after food is just a slippery i'm not naming it after food are you kidding i'm naming it because the olsen twins when they pose for a picture say prune to suck their buckles in right that's all i was saying to yeah wow i don't know i kind of turned around on it no no i see where i see where you're coming from anyways we have a lot of conversations prunio prunio prunio also so we are having a boy which

you know wait i didn't know that oh yeah you announced boy i did our patreon blog i just came out with it because i figured at some point i would like be talking about the baby and i would just like spill it anyway so i just like let's put it all out there so but but like boy girl names are just more fun to think about maybe because I would agree with that so it's definitely and we didn't start thinking about names until we knew the gender because I was like I don't want to like get excited about a name if that's not what it's going to be so it's don't name your son prune i will not no no i'm probably i'm more of like a classic name like i i want a name that was around 100 years ago and will be around 100 years from now you need a name that you can call so when you pick your name like let's say you're gonna name

like your kid prune prune dinner's ready like you need to like use it in context or like like oh no prune poop no i feel that because like honestly in our house olivia and claudia are very similar so like if you miss if someone was being called down for dinner you didn't know if it was olivia or claudia because the ea at the end was like making it confusing but like why are you guys all having dinner at the same time okay not for me it was like claudia you got a zero on your test like you're in trouble like you know what i mean again there was no confusion about who yeah of course olivia did not get it fine fuck okay that's a fair point you have to use your name though in sentences you can't just name the name

that's a like a really good okay that's a good tip start walking around referencing the baby as a certain name yeah but like to me i have that name and just like zach is just like so start using the name like like in front of zach how you would use it i like traditional old names though me too yeah yeah i think there's something like classic and elegant and strong about them as long as it's something that's like still contemporary yeah it's really about like history and just like your own family history i think it's just like so cool to think about like your ancestors and like if one of them were like roaming around and saw that like this little baby was named in some way for them by the way mr fucking opinionated like thinks he's the creator director like he won't let me just even like to pick like a strong editor a pillow a pillow on the couch like let me pick my fucking

pillow on my couch same i don't want you to have an opinion about that's not true she put on she was gonna wear this um olive shirt today that would have just completely not worked by the way it tells me like like uh kanye literally kanye he goes the other day i think we need to edit your closet like better style than kim Kanye like it is Kanye vibes well um you can say it he doesn't think I have style I think like taste is a real thing I do have taste I'm not saying you don't have taste I'm saying I have taste I don't have style and I don't and I can't I'm not a creative but I think I have taste put so much energy towards what I wear like it's just not like it's boring to me to be honest i

completely agree i put my energy towards other yeah i don't i just if someone could just tell me what to wear i would just wear it i don't want to think about it like i don't really i don't have a handbag right now i didn't bring my wallet money like here's how i explain it you know when you when you walk into a place and you're like oh my god like something, like something just is not, doesn't feel good in here, right? It's like it's off. And then you go to another place. You're like, damn, like whoever did this. These are good vibes.

Like I have, yes, I have good feelings here. He's saying that about my clothes. No, no, no, I'm not. By the way, these pajamas, pants are from Amazon. They were $10. Wait, I love that. And he's going to get mad. I love your shoes.

$10. I wear these shoes every day. I'm like, I just can't like be bothered. Or like you walk into a beautiful place and then like the music is completely counter to what the place is okay that's like a really niche issue but sure yeah but it's but it fucks the senses i guess you were complaining about that recently was it the party michael puts a real emphasis we needed music always reasonable no it's five senses you gotta have here's my thing you gotta have movement so movement to me is a fountain in the house or a sexy oil diffuser that's like going up like the caterpillar smoking

his hookah and you gotta have the right smell smell my baby shower i scented i scented it in cotton candy so when you walked in you immediately smelled cotton candy the scent is important and you also have to have music you have to have music of course of course sorry to get so specific no that's okay i feel that that's what i'm wasting my energy it's like when you walk into someone's home like and like there's some homes you go and it's like chaotic everything's all you don't know like wow this is just a flow you just feel like immediately at ease yeah it's true five cents it's just hard to get it all right all the time yeah like we used to keep buying candles like after they run out yeah it's the time or the

money people listen to me like what a fucking asshole no literally they just smell um before my final question for you lauren is what i find it so interesting is like i feel like for the most part you said you've been blogging for 13 years i feel like everyone who's been on the internet for a while has like slowly left their blogs behind, but your blog is like such an integral part of your brand. Can you talk about like why you did that? I am not going to abandon ship on the thing that I think sort of put the brand on the map. I think a lot of people maybe were blogging for monetary reasons and like sure that's an element of it but I love to write I love to create blog content and I think that for me my community wants to see very

detailed and with the blog you get that yeah you can't on social yeah and I there's this book called the slight edge and it's like you never want to stop doing what gave your brand traction in the beginning and like sure you can like i'll i'll micro blog through instagram story all the time like i'll write little like blog posts sort of on instagram story but if i just abandoned that part and just took a picture of myself in the mirror that's not staying true to what the blog started as there always has to be something that's like a valuable takeaway to not waste people's time so the blog is still a thing for me i think that's really you'll respect this like doing

stand-up like it's the it's you know those comedians that started like incredible comedians and they kind of abandoned that like now they're actors or whatever and they stopped doing the stand-up and all of a sudden you're like what what happened you know well because they say like if you can do stand-up like you can do anything like and that's true but i think that that, like, to not hone that craft and, like, consistently do it is a huge mistake. But you're right. Like, that's actually what happens with most comedians who blow up overnight. Yeah. They stop doing the thing and then all of a sudden it's like.

They want to be movie stars and that's great. But that's always what we say. Like, I hate when my thing, like Jackie Joke said, I literally, like, say the same five things every episode. But. Here's one of them. Here's one of them. I can't wait. I hate when. Now I nervous I hate when people hate the thing that made them famous yeah I hate when Hannah Montana like my hates Hannah I just like and like when

they do interviews they really want to talk about their new project and like not the project everyone actually wants to talk about by the way no one really wants to hear about a project either like talk about something that's like the whole yes which includes that my thing is like if you go on a podcast and you just have interesting conversation not about your project project people will go seek you out yes they will go find you if you're come on so promotional it's like it's boring and then it's like you put it all like your eggs in this one project and then like whatever six months from now it's the next project and how is this always the thing that that totally encapsulates you whereas oh the thing before did not there's nothing worse than a podcast guest that comes on and all they want to do is pimp themselves out the audience can smell it everyone

can smell the bullshit the gut it's not interesting for the hosts like just come on and just be a compelling person and if someone wants to go seek you out they will a hundred percent have you guys been following what's been going on with like jake paul and those guys do you ever follow that a little bit pretty much yeah okay so like he started as a disney kid and i think he's such a marketing genius because he's gone and now he's doing all these fights but one of the things he just put up on his feed the other day was like him doing the old like disney waving one and he's like so he's like look at what this disney kid's gonna do and when he goes to his events he wears like the gucci disney thing and i'm like that is a smart way to take something

that propels you and continue it forward but also transitioning and evolving into something else i'm a huge fan of the paul brothers like i know that they're controversial i think that they're so smart and i think what they've done is so like unbelievable like he literally fought floyd mayweather like that's insane yeah it is insane what he's done is he's they're selling out and stadiums love them they are smart and successful they're like the male versions of the kardashians yes and people like think that they're a joke and and they just keep going they keep training and they're like decent fucking fighters like they don't those kids can crack yeah he stayed in the entire fight with floyd mayweather like he didn't win but i think they also do a good example of doing the slight edge but they also know how to

evolve at the same time. And that is a finesse. And I think that's really like Logan. I think Logan like grew up, like was way more famous than Jake and like it all just happened so fast for him and he just became a prick. And I think he learned like in a hard way, like how to, you know, come back down to earth. And I don't know him at all. This is just like what I gather from following.

I think he's like a much more evolved, like mature person. Yeah. And there has to be room for that for evolution and there has to be room there has to be like room to forgive and grow like there's got to be room yeah we're all entitled to uh to grow up and make mistakes I just said something the other day to someone they said well you said you know six months ago that you didn't like this and now you do and I just wrote back I changed my mind no like and that is my new thing for 2022 I changed my mind and I'm allowed to change my mind how about that by the way that's how minds work part literally and part of the reason I did not want to write a book was like

I changed my mind about everything every day and I'm like I'm gonna write a whole book and then I bet I'll read it in a year and be like embarrassed that I had these opinions like so I literally put it in my book I'm like I'm just saying like I know that I might say something in this book and then I get in a year on the podcast say something completely contradictory but that's because I change my mind all the time and that's fine I don't know where we got to this point that you have to be consistent with every opinion you've ever had yeah you know what it's like on a micro level have you ever you know you know, you're in, you're like, you have a certain style and you're wearing that style.

I think you look so great. And like four years later, you look back and you're like, what the hell was I doing? And at the time you thought you looked so fire. That's in my book, the gaucho pants. You used to literally, I would get in trouble for wearing the same pants every day. And like, they would be like, you have to put them in the wash. I used to wear these gaucho pants all the time. And like, could you see me wearing gaucho pants right now i mean i think

you should bring them back michael would kill you i had a spiky hairstyle with like the old like so much gel and like spiking at the time i was like damn i look cool you probably did whoa no but i look i look back now it's a perfect example of it yeah well you guys are just the best and thank you for coming on the show please i'm gonna give you the next kind of 30 seconds to a minute promote anything you want you guys can follow me at lauren bostick we just did a podcast with you guys which is not up yet but it will be up you've both been on our podcast two times so if you guys want to go listen to that oh yeah remember we sang a duet oh what did we say a little mermaid yeah we sang our duet my memory i have i have no idea what you guys are talking about we sat at a huge round table i remember the podcast.

I don't remember singing. I remember you wearing a flannel, a red flannel. I don't remember that. She was. Michael probably hated it. Yeah, and my product line at the Skinny Confidential, Lymphatic Drainage, Depuff the fuck out of your face. I'm sending each of you one.

Can I get an ice roller? Yeah, that's what I'm sending. Olivia's obsessed with it. I'm going to send you an ice roller. Olivia's obsessed with it. She sits in her bed. You FaceTime her. She's ice rolling 24-7 the skinny confidential ice roller oh that makes

i love mine and you know who loves it brew he oh my dog like loves when i do it i don't do it a lot but i like he's always trying to get it lymphatic drainage he does he needs to be grounding and yeah he's well groomed wait before we wrap up can we just talk about how you change your instagram from the skinny confidential to lauren bossing and then you gave that username to your own brand which I thought was so smart and now you have a line of skincare so I had and the skinny was like which was a place where consumers could go and find like Amazon finds oh I remember that yeah and I did that like knowing I was going to launch a brand so the people that were following along were people who um you know enjoyed like i don't i don't like to push things on people they enjoy shopping products right and so when it

was time to switch to the product line we switched that to at the skinny confidential and now i am lauren bostick sometimes crazy sometimes no i just changed mine to jackie ashrae in like six months ago and it was the best thing i ever did. She was Jackie O problems for whatever. I liked that name though. I liked it. Like it served a purpose, but ever since I've changed it, like I have not looked back. Yeah.

Michael, don't look back. It was emblematic of the time when you made it, but now it's like we've evolved on social so much. Oh, by the way, hot tip really quick. Sorry.

Another one. Get your baby's Instagram handle. The second the baby's born. Does Oz have an Instagram? I would only do that so that someone doesn't take it. Well, here's the thing. People get really mad about this. Like I've seen people get mad that we did that. We don't post anything about the baby. baby's born. Does Oz have an Instagram? I would only do that so that someone doesn't take it. Well, here's the thing. People get really mad about this. Like, I've seen people get mad that we did that.

We don't post anything about the baby. But I'm just... Well, we post a little bit on my stories, but she doesn't post on her Instagram. But it's just so that she has it when she wants it.

There are some assholes out there that'll just do things to take... Assholes. Yeah, if you put yourself out in a public light, like, they're gonna go and, like, I took the name. I'll even buy the name.

So I'm like, before we got every name, I name i was like you want to do anything if she wants it later she can have it if she doesn't doesn't matter that's so smart i was like pushing on the table and michael's like i got her name good that's important that's actually a really good piece of advice no but i mean like i think people i mean i don't want to have a fight with someone later and have to like bribe some dude or to get my kid's name you know yeah yeah she doesn't have to use it maybe that's a good business if you want to start a business just to yell celebrities and influencers baby names um well you guys are the best thank you so much for coming on thank you for having me and you guys we'll see you tomorrow bye