The Toast - S4 Ep163: Waiting All Year For Yom Kippur: Wednesday, September 15th, 2021

Episode Date: September 15, 2021

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast and happy hump day! It doesn't feel like your average hump day. Well, that's because, maybe not for you, but like some of us have to fast tomorrow. So, I don't know, maybe this week is just feeling off for some of us. This week is feeling so full of promise for me because, you know, I'm in my 10 days. I'm reflecting. I'm repenting. Tomorrow, I'm looking forward to really diving into the Yom. You know, no phone.

I might even do no TV. I might just do book just to make it a little harder on myself because I'm not fasting. So for those who don't know, tomorrow is Yom Kippur, which is the day of atonement for us Jews. We must fast all day. Whilst we atone for our sins though pregnant ladies need not fast and suddenly i'm feeling a kick is that a child yeah no i have to fast and usually like we're commiserating together about you know the nasty breath of everyone in shul and i'll just be doing that by myself this year because you've abandoned me just like everyone

else i'll be waking up having breakfast having, and then I'm actually going to be hosting the break fast, which I'm really excited about. And it works out for everyone else because no one else has to go through the torture of preparing a meal while they're fasting. It's only fair that you host the break fast. I just want to say for the last two years I have hosted the break fast and part of it is torture, but it's something to do, you know, like instead of just looking out the window thinking about, you know, how you're a terrible person and how hungry you are, it's something. You're slicing tomatoes. Like, it's something.

And honestly, I would say 98% of the shit that is served at a bagel breakfast breakfast, I, like, gag at. Like, I was, like, unboxing, like, herring and tuna and, like, honestly, it was making me not hungry. Like, it's disgusting. The cutting of the bagels and toasting them like that will kill you. Yeah. But I don't know the egg salad sloshing around in the container. You know what? You're good on that. I think I could fast another day. Is there any requests that you have for the break fast? I'm so fucking glad you

asked. I'm taking requests. Okay can we please i know everyone loves like a diverse bag of bagels and don't get me wrong i do too but let's be real like the plain ones go the fastest because everyone loves a plane plane yeah nobody likes a plane nobody i wouldn't have even gotten a plane if you hadn't mentioned it what are the only one who would go for a plain bagel get a bunch because i'll take some home fine like a lot i want like an overflowing of bagels okay and i know everyone likes let's get a cinnamon raisin like stick with like poppy sesame like a nice of the the base the the the regulars okay snitch and i both are gonna have cinnamon raisin as dessert bagels of course but like flavorless bagels justice for the flavorless bagels like okay everything is good of course

when i break i just want like a plain or even a poppy seed that tastes like nothing or a sesame really tastes like nothing. Like something, a good base. That's what I'll say. Okay. That's fine. Now, if I walk into your home and I see Philadelphia cream cheese, I just want to let you know I'm leaving. Well, you're going to see it because it's the premier cream cheese.

But you will also see Temp Tea. Okay. Because. Let's just rewind. Did you say it's the premier cream cheese philadelphia cream cheese is the only cream cheese worth cheesing with cream wow i'm shocked i know that you like that they have a really good scallion cream cheese i like all of theirs temp tea is so disgusting oh my god i think cream cheese that is not whipped literally deserves

death jail to them all so crazy but you know what different strokes for different folks i'm gonna have every cream cheese and i'm gonna also have fresh cream cheese okay also i know i don't know if you're gonna be doing this like i really prefer to eat off a paper plate okay that's just me and honestly beverages are also really important i just placed a large beverage order but do you have i think like sparkling water is probably of the utmost importance that day because i'll be like super dehydrated i have the one that I always have. But you know, I'd like to indulge in like a little diet Pepsi. Oh, okay.

I didn't place that order. Okay. Okay. And then let's move on to dessert because I don't know. I'm just throwing it out there. A Carvel cake. I'm just throwing it out there. It could be a small personal size one.

I think you can make that work. Because like this is a special meal and I'm not really into like the traditionally Jewish desserts. Like how many times can we have ragelach, you know? Yeah, yeah. Except Olivia got those babka bites that I wouldn't mind eating again. They were so good. But for me at Yom Kippur, the dessert is a cinnamon raisin bagel with biscoff cookie

butter on top and a little jelly. No. Doesn't that just sound like something? I'm so excited. like I think I'm gonna have a bagel today for lunch and today's like my last day on earth so what are you having for dinner I don't know and like Ben's going to shul so like I have to eat by myself could I entice you to some homemade popper deli handmade popper deli handmade popper deli popper deli handmade popper deli that i made at home no i need something from a

restaurant like it tasted restaurant quality i'm sure it did but i need i'm thinking either like a seraphina moment or oh my god i'm so nervous i can't believe like the day is upon us we talk about it all year long and it's like literally tomorrow and I am looking forward year for Yom Kippur do you see the new I didn't oh I saw it on Instagram the new Sunday night football they use the new Mandalorian technology it was looking really good it wasn't Browns versus Jets but it was good they don't copy and paste like the songs like the teams anymore no they do but when we were going through it, that was the sample. It wasn't this particular game. That wasn't the particular game.

But no. And I found out, thank you for everyone for letting me know, she records every combination. I thought she recorded every team name in each trope and they put them together. But she records every game that's going to happen. She sits there and she records it. I would love

to sit in on that session not all heroes wear capes you guys but actually Carrie Underwood does yeah um so yeah like I'm looking forward to feeling lighter like on Friday I feel like I'm gonna have like a renewed sense of energy and I've just been feeling kind of heavy this last week because it's that's what you're supposed to just reflect. And when I reflect and I look inside and I see me for what I truly am, which is ugly, it doesn't make me feel good. So I'm looking forward to rolling my eyes the forward way, looking forward after Yom Kippur, and focusing on other people's problems, not mine. Great. Okay. Well, it sounds like you have a plan.

And obviously that means there will be no show tomorrow. But just know we will be repenting. And wishing we were at the show. Wishing, yeah. Except I'm looking forward to sleeping in a little. Yeah, me too. I've been sleeping good this week. Like some good pregnancy sleep. Oh, thank you for reminding me.

I wanted to tell you, if you come near me, like I smell today. I had the craziest night of like tossing, turning, waking up for some reason, drenched in sweat. And I woke up because I was so exhausted. I woke up so late. I should have taken like a body shower. Cause like, I was just like, I was literally doing the marathon in my sleep, like an elliptical. I reek. Okay. Just a word to the wise. Thanks for the heads up. What do you think was keeping you up? Um, I know because I can't remember my dreams, but I fell asleep really fast. I was having deep, like, psychological dreams. It was a psychological thriller?

Literally. And that's where I'm at. Okay. Well, I think we should get into everything because we've got a lot to do today and we've got a lot to talk about. So without further ado, who's here? Don't worry about him. It is time for the past five

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the end of the show for a content segment. Oh, okay. Well, let's But I don't see that I like that idea. Okay cool cool. Our first story big news time 100 most influential people list is out and Megan and Harry are on the cover. There's a lot of other influential people inside but um chef Jose Andres wrote a short essay about the pair. You know how everybody like writes about someone else just like JLo wrote about Charlie as we saw on Hulu. So now after watching the D'Amelio show I feel like I have a whole new perspective on this list and I just find it interesting this is not me being a hater but probably is me being a hater I do find it interesting how 16 year old Charlie D'Amelio had the wherewithal you know like not to make it about herself you know there's like real activists and doctors and scientists doing amazing work and she didn't want to you know she was honored to be on the list but she didn't want to like make it about

herself and then Harry and Meghan just waltz right on the cover I just want to say I think it's a different list because they were saying was like an inspiring list like no it was influence it was influence yeah but it was a different time of year And then like that was filmed at the beginning of this year. I don't know. I don't know if it's the exact same list. Okay. That's all I'll say. I just like that. That is an interesting point. I mean, yeah, I don't want to be a hater. Megan and Harry are, you know, Megan and Harry. I, and there are a lot of things and they're, you know, so high profile and like everything they do is news. I don't know that I would say that they're so influential. That's what I was going to say as well.

They're A-list and they're incredibly recognizable. But like they have a podcast. Have any of you listened to it? They have a children's book. Have any of you purchased it? I know. He has a show on Apple Plus. Has any of you watched it?

I'm not saying nobody's watching it, but I'm just saying like, I don't know people who are, like, thoroughly influenced by them. Or, like, they're the number one most influential, like, on the cover. No, I completely agree, and honestly... If they were buried somewhere down there, I wouldn't really think about it. I'd be like, yeah, they're big stars.

Sure. Because there's a lot of people on the list. I'm not going to go through how influential every single one of them is. Did the show even come out yet? I've heard not a lick about it. I think that it did come out. No, you're

right like their podcast launched and then everyone was like oh my god and then nobody cared like it's just like a lot of hoopla for everything they do yeah and nobody really like follows through except for with the oprah interview because like that was wait but then it's like okay that's not influence interesting thing about them is that they're royal defects right and if they're not talking about the royal family like are people listening right no so i agree then they go back to talking about the royal family and it's like all you do is talk about the royal family right so like is this the list of like famous people who else is on the list okay it's a really long list there's obviously the different categories so we'll go through um relevant categories and people so we have what is this one oh icons is one Naomi Osaka very influential Alexi Navalny oh

Meghan McCain's always tweeting about him yeah yeah but it seems influential Britney Spears very influential um Dolly Parton oh Moderna yeah yeah and then there's a lot of other people but I'm just going through like celebrities then in in the Pioneers category, we have Billie Eilish. Incredibly influential. Suni Lee. I'm happy she's there. Me too. What I think, I guess, yeah, no, she actually, she's very inspiring.

Her story, I take, yep, she's influential. In the Titans category, we have Simone Biles. I mean. Extremely influential. She honestly should have been on the cover if we're being honest. Tim Cook. Sure, yeah. Shonda Rhimes.

Of course. Tom Brady. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Then there seems like there's a lot of people who feel like they would be on it every year. Like Elon Musk is on this list. Well, yeah, because.

He's influencing every year, no? Constantly raising the bar for all of us. Artists. So that's really like the celebrity category. Kate Winslet. That's incredibly bizarre. raising the bar for all of us artists so that's really like the celebrity category kate winslet that's incredibly bizarre but i guess her show mayor of east town oh influenced this year that's true okay okay still pretty random yeah bad bunny 100 sure chloe zow i don't know who that is jason sudakis he's having a moment well ted Lasso and then I think maybe they just put him

on this list because they feel bad for him because of Olivia Wilde wouldn't you isn't he dating someone though yeah like a model

you know child you know okay Scarlett Johansson um I think like with Black Widow and

I guess yeah that's definitely a stretch I think I know but like there are so many celebrities walking this earth and like these

just don't feel like the biggest ones to me. But in terms of influence, is this a list of the most famous people? Here's more like Lil Nas. Yes. A hundred percent. Bowen Yang, your fave. Oh, and he's influencing SNL. And by the way, he's doing such important work, like bringing SNL into the 21st century.

Yeah. Tracee Ellis Ross. Yes. Black-ish is huge. Daniel Kaluuya. Yes. Kane Brown. Yes. Yes. So that's, um, there's other people in the category, but those are like the most famous people. Um, then there's a bunch of leaders who are politicians, then, um, innovators. So that's like Elon Musk and other innovators who I don't recognize. And that seems to be the list.

Yeah, so honestly, like, I would love some, and I feel like we say this when we report on this list a lot, like, what is the point of this list? Like, because honestly, like, if it's a roundup of famous people, then yes, Harry and Meghan were probably the most famous thing, the biggest deal to happen in the last, you know. In 2021. Like who else would you put on the cover?

Right. But if we're talking about influence, like you're right. Like all these deals they keep getting, like it's huge news. Like she's going to voice over for Disney+. And then it's like nobody cares. Yeah. So all these projects are huge headlines. And then in actuality, does anybody actually care about the content they're making?

I don't think anyone listens to their podcast. Yeah. I don't even know if they're still doing the podcast right now. Right. So in terms of influence in the way that we understand influence in this day and age, Harry and Meghan are not influential, but they're really famous. Yes, I agree. Now I'm looking to see who's been on other covers.

Oh, then in 2019 it was um there was three covers Dwayne Johnson Taylor Swift Sandro oh I remember that yeah yeah yeah I felt strongly oh actually it looks like there was like a bunch of covers but that's just one okay like 2018 like honestly Charlie should have been on the cover no because that's what I'm saying like if we're talking about modern influence or, like, I don't know, someone who had, you know, an amazing scientific breakthrough for, you know, the cure for cancer. I don't know. Yeah. I'm just struggling to understand what and who Harry and Meghan influenced this year.

Or just, like, in general. Yeah. Maybe, like, the American public about, you know, what the royal family did to them. I don't know. Like, I'm not understanding the influence. Right. I'm not under the influence. I'm not under the influence either.

But it's so hard to get me under there. But once I am, I'm sold. That's true. I'm buying leggings. You guys, Jackie, we're going to discuss it in the TV recap. Jackie has the most interesting take on the LuLaRoe. LuLaRoe. You keep calling it LuLaRula ro so now i'm saying

if i was you i'd wanna wear lula ro i'd wanna wear lula ro i'd wanna wear lula ro by the way it sounds better if it's lula ro i know but that was a song from the documentary anyways um that's time 100 check it out or don't it is what it is or don't like nobody cares and it's also weird that like there's a, the list is called the influential list. And, like, being an influencer is actually a job. Right. And there are people on this earth who are influencers, who are influential, who are not on this list. Like, where is a podcaster?

Even just one influencer. Where's Joe Rogan? Kiara Frogney. Joe Rogan. Yeah. That's actually really weird. Yeah because if we're talking about influence like people like I remember when I was watching some episode like I forget who it was whatever like maybe it's Bernie Sanders like people because of Joe Rogan like

his numbers went up like tenfold like that's actual influence. Yes yes that's actual influence. I guess the podcasters on this list are Megan and Harry oh thank you so much for correcting me I stand corrected yeah no that is really weird even influencers like just one even yeah like honestly something maybe is really influential like her business is blowing up Rach Parcell honestly like just on my personal time 100 Rach Parcell's on the cover oh my god we should do like a patreon episode of our personal time 100 people who are actually influential influences me to buy things and like think about something that also just launches like a really interesting conversation about influencers because and this is like my favorite thing to talk about because you could be an influencer with like

millions of followers and have no influence like you could start your own line of clothing and you could have no customers or you could be like an Instagram influencer with like 400,000 followers. I feel like Shannon Ford is like the most influential like person on Instagram and she doesn't have

multi-millions. Yeah. So it's not even about followers. It's really about influence and not everyone has that. It's so true. And I could, I could but I won't like

rattle off people who have no influence but just know I have like a list in my head. Well, we should do a patreon episode about our time our toast 100 most influential totally totally toastily okay next up switching gears comedians are reacting to the tragic death of snl star norm mcdonald norm mcdonald's unexpected death from cancer at the age of 61 has brought an outpouring of remembrances from fellow comics and actors on social media from Jim Carrey, Patton Oswalt, Seth Rogen, Jim Gaffigan. Everybody's talking about Norm. He was struggling privately with

a nine-year battle with cancer. Oh, I didn't know that. Yes, and he passed away. Well, now that he's in the news, like I was getting like things on TikTok um of him and it made me want to watch his episode of Comedians in Cars oh for sure because there was like this really quick clip with him and Jerry talking about Bill Cosby and it's very you know not appropriate but it was so funny oh that's so funny I was seeing like a bunch of like quotes of his going around or like video clips from like his time on SNL and other stuff and it definitely like that sounds like a great episode to watch to get to know the man a bit better and then it got me thinking like when is the next season of Comedians in Cars it's been a while and yeah I mean comedy is more personal than food so these things take time

I mean if you don't make the rules you need to I don't make the rules no Jerry is told he has to say it once per episode or he won't be able to do the show. Or he won't get paid. Or he won't get paid. Yeah. What's your favorite episode of Comedians in Cars? Oh, I don't. I haven't watched as many as you have. OK, well, I'm very selective.

Like if I don't know the person, I won't watch the episode. Yeah. I have to think of just the episodes that I have watched. But I do feel like there's like a an obvious answer that I just can't I think can I say it for you I think I know what you're it's Tracy Morgan oh that is a great it's really good so is the Jim Gaffigan one yeah but you're such a Jim Gaffigan girly I am you know I met him once on a plane Kevin Hart is also really good oh yeah and he's a fave of mine yeah and Dave Chappelle did one too but it's kind of serious yeah Dave Chappelle is serious Harvey one was so oh yes you forget that like

especially like Steve Harvey who's done so much he started in comedy but now I just assume I think of him as like you know the guy who announced the wrong Miss Universe like right he's so many other things Family Feud the Steve Harvey show but he started in stand-up and he is so funny and the kate mckinnon one is really funny too yes it is they're honestly most of them are funny honestly i could go back and watch them like i feel like it's been so long but he like did all the comedians yeah the larry david one is interesting because they're both trying to like out larry each other it's a larry off they have like the same like dry no because like he's Seinfeld because of Seinfeld is Larry and Larry is Larry so like they're both like competing like talking about

like how comedies were personal have you been seeing like Harry not Harry Larry has been like out and about he went to the US Open I saw him at Fashion Week and he went to the US Open and was like plugging his ears because it was so loud. It was like so Larry. And it just got me thinking like where's the season? Yeah. They keep saying that you know Curb it's the final season and then there's another season. Well because moronic shit keeps happening in the world. Like how could Larry not do a season on COVID?

Like it's his dream to stay in the house. Yeah. Loved it. Well it hasn't come out yet but I will love it. I know I will. For sure. Okay you ready for our next story which is a little like Met Gala follow-up some things have like emerged not a lot but one Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin have worked haunted with a Selena chant at the Met

Gala okay I saw this yes and I feel like I've went on a rant before about like people who like literally are mourning the loss of a relationship that wasn't theirs from five years ago yeah and how i just want to say i think they're enormous losers i think so basically they got out of the car they walked onto the carpet and people were across the street like lining up for days and they were just chanting selena selena when justin and hailey are trying to take photos right and i just want to let you know like if you were there and you participated in the chant, just know I hate you. Not even because I'm a Haley Stan versus Selena. You're a grown person. If you're old enough to get yourself to the Metropolitan Museum of Art, you're probably not there with your parents.

You probably came with your friends. You're mature enough to travel in the city by yourself, and you're chanting about Selena Gomez to another couple who's very happily in love married you are a loser and you should reflect look inside yourself and be like why it's it's you know it's right before Yom Kippur you should ask God God why am I such a loser maybe he can help you because we can't and it's also never too late to change you know and it's a new year it a new leaf. You can repent for chanting Selena at the Met Gala and you can move forward in your life. You have to stop. Like for real. But you just can't keep doing it. No. And then it's like people will like take clips of them on the red carpet looking uncomfortable and be like, oh my God, he's

thinking of Selena. No, you're making them so uncomfortable. Stop. So their red carpet body language, we were talking about it yesterday, but not on the show. And now I guess it makes a little bit more sense. But first of all, I do think that like, you know, posing for pictures can be awkward. There were a few moments that like people were talking about. First, he put his hand on her stomach and then she swatted it away because she knew everyone was going to say that they're pregnant. And I don't think that they are whatsoever, but they're both like laughing when she realized like what it looks like.

Yep. Then they also like switch sides. Because she wanted to be on her good side. Right. Like they're both like laughing once she realized like what it looks like yep then they also like switch sides because she wanted to be on her good side right like they're so relatable but what's also so funny is like you watch a 10 second clip of them taking pictures and it's like pretty awkward and then you see the pictures and it's like movie star movie star no so they know what they're doing movie moment but it's just like so that's how just I just don't know how hailey does it like these accounts like you look at her instagram comments it's like selena like shut up and honestly if you're there to represent selena you're making selena look like an enormous loser

like is she still thinking about justin is that what you're saying justin's happily married and she's not and she's thinking about like you're making your girl who you're there to defend you're making her look like a loser in this situation so you should stop it's true send this to a jelena fan this episode because you guys are fucking losers i'm sorry stop we are grown people like stop and honestly when i saw those videos of everyone chanting and like them getting out of the car like i was so sad for them yeah and if you think like Selena's the victim and all this you acting this way you're making Justin and Hailey the victim so you're having the adverse effect and you're stupid thank you Claudia thank you for this PSA really pissed

me off the other thing I want to talk about the Met Gala because Kim posted on her Instagram about her dressing you know every all day people were like speculating about the meaning and talking about you know how they how it made them feel and she posted on instagram like what's more american than a t-shirt so that like perhaps that was the reference for the look people have been giving like scientific historic footnotes a bibliography yeah on what they thought this meant and like literally giving dissertations. And she's like, it's a T-shirt. Like, is that it? Is it an F-shirt?

Like, that's it? We all have been spinning our wheels and like it's just a T-shirt. It was just because of T-shirt material, which is a classic American thing. And she was wearing like a big T-shirt. Because of T-shirt. Yeah, not Z-shirt. Not F like a big t-shirt. Because of t-shirt. Yeah not z-shirt.

Not a t-shirt. No I was like honestly like crushed. Like is that is that okay to say? Yeah but it also made me feel like because at some points I'm feeling like I have no artistic vision like and I love Kim and I'm ready I'm embracing the meaning and the impact to wash over me I was watching Daily Pop yesterday because I wanted to see what they said about Met Gala looks and you know when you see a picture of a look so many times especially like some of the fabulous pictures that emerge from the red carpet my opinion does start to change and I want to take back one thing I said yesterday about a look I don't hate JLo's hat anymore. Oh okay. Seeing it from enough angles I can appreciate the hat and I hope she had a great evening as Mrs. Hat. Okay. So then they were talking about Kim's look and they're showing it from all these different angles and they were

like this look is stunning and I was just like what am I missing? Right. You know how is how does she look stunning? They said she looks stunning. But you can't even see your face so maybe I just have you know limitations when it comes to understanding art which is very possible I'm not an art girly I'm not no and by the way I can admit what I know and what I don't know and like I don't understand art like at all and to be honest I'm not even interested in understanding it yeah maybe like one day maybe that's just like something that comes with age maybe that's like the next stop for me on like my interests in life to become like an art person right now I have no okay I just had another thought about the outfit okay another theory maybe just hear me out it's so outrageous but it's also like so recognizable

nobody's ever worn anything like that ever again maybe kim's hoping like in 50 years when the theme for met gala again is like you know americana someone will go as her thus cementing herself as a permanent important figure in american fashion and you think that she wasn't that before well even though another interpretation of yours says that she dressed as her own body because she's such an important figure okay excuse me defensive I didn't say interpretation of mine I said I saw it on TikTok but I liked it so did I but I was just thinking like this is another possibility because like maybe she wants to be like an Audrey Hepburn because like Audrey Hepburn had all these iconic looks and this one is like so recognizable yeah I hope that's not it but you know they're all possible i still don't maybe it's

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The Proud Family Revival sets Lizzo, Tiffany Haddish, Lil Nas X, and more as guest stars. Disney Plus has set a stacked cast, literally so stacked, of guest stars and new recurring talent for the Proud Family Revival. It's called Louder and Prouder. Oh, that's a good name. Great name in commemoration of the original animated series' 20th anniversary.

The guest-starring voice cast for the series set to launch on Disney Plus in 2022 will feature A-listers from the worlds of music, film, TV, and sports, including Lizzo, Lil Nas X, Chance the Rapper, Normani, Leslie Odom Jr., Tiffany Haddish, Lena Waithe, Anthony Anderson, Gabrielle Union, Debbie Allen. There's literally so many names here. I'm just going to highlight a few more. Jane Lynch, Marseille Martin, Gabby Douglas, Brenda Song, Lori Hernandez,

Jaden Smith. There's so many. It's not a reboot. It's a reunion of sorts. It's a series. Oh. So I think it's some sort of reboot revival. Do you think they're going to reboot the episode where she goes on Oprah? Where she puts her foot in it. Yeah. I mean, there are so many guest stars here and Oprah was not mentioned, which definitely worries me.

That's disgusting. Proud family will push your buttons i don't know how it goes after that um no i really do hope that sugar mama puts her foot in it once again and maybe they just didn't want to put it on the flyer but oprah's definitely making a surprise appearance right i just wonder if like for me like that that reference just like every time i'm cooking i'm like i'm gonna put my foot in it like i just am always thinking about it like I and I know no sugar mama lives rent-free in your mind she really does for anyone else does do you think about that what that like instance all the time never no you don't because when I mentioned it to you you didn't know what I was talking about what it was

but like I just wonder if other people are just always like thinking about sugar mama putting her foot in it it's very possible and to be honest i'm very skeptical of reboots um and just like any sort of revivals but i really feel like if something is being taken care of by disney disney cares so much about keeping the integrity of their stories and that's why the corella was so good it wasn't just like a strewn together prequel or sequel they care so much about the integrity of the light and the legacy of the stories they've created over the years that they're not gonna they're not gonna fuck this up like and I have the utmost faith if something's on Disney plus like I feel really good about it I do agree with you so I think that this won't be terrible I think it'll be really fun for you know the 90s kids and all of us and we'll see what they do with it

yeah but so far it has the makings of a good reboot I mean you know I'm I am anti-reboot generally speaking but this sounds like an anniversary special like it's and has Disney Plus done any reboots or reunions like when I think of reboots I think of like Fuller House which is Netflix I think of Friends which was HBO Max I Fuller House, which is Netflix. I think of Friends, which was HBO Max. I don't really feel like there's been a big reboot reunion special on Disney+. No, not that I've seen. And I think if anyone can do it, I have so much faith in Bob Iger, even though I don't even think he works at the company anymore.

But he'll always be my CEO. Oh. Nothing but respect for my CEO. Honestly, I need to buy his masterclass. Like, you should. I feel like I could learn something.

You should. I have a masterclass code for you. When people ask, like, who is, like, your business, like, idol? I had never, I mean,

no one's ever asked me that, but, like, I just have a feeling that maybe they would. Who would you say? Well, my business idol would probably be Kim. Yeah.

Kardashian. Mine, like, would probably be Brian Kelly. That's a good one. He's be Kim. Yeah. Kardashian. Mine, like, would probably be Brian Kelly. That's a good one. He's so rich. Yeah. So is Kim, though. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

It's a little more TV news, but... I'm sorry. Did you say... The final story! story. That felt good. Yeah, really. You just need to take it out on the triangle literally okay julianne huff is addressing the activist show backlash and past blackface costume julianne huff has released a lengthy statement addressing the backlash that has surrounded her recently announced cbs cbs competition show the activist which pits teams of activists against each other in challenges and uses their online engagement and celebrity judges to...

Wait, sorry, start again. I need a better understanding of what the show is. It's a competition show. For activists. For activists. So everyone... I'm sorry. Who thought that was a good idea?

No, I mean, people thought it was a good idea. It clearly, you know, got... Got greenlit. It got Julianne Hough as a co-host alongside usher and priyanka chopra the show was like announced last week and you know not to no i'm i need to go read the tweets i'm sure they're so funny like people already think like social media activism is so performative like you're literally just giving so much credibility to those okay so explain the show it pits teams of activists they're pitting activists

against each other in challenges and it uses their online engagement and celebrity judges to determine an overall winner so there was a lot of backlash for the concept about the show and then uh julianne huff right and she said now she admits she's not qualified to be judging a show about activism the premise of which has been widely panned online. So I think everything about this formula is just a no. I also read a series of tweets from someone who auditioned to be on the show, an activist, and he said, like, the whole process was so demoralizing. Like, the things that they wanted him to talk about,

like, they just want him to cry. You're lying. Yeah, like, instead of, like I I can't explain it well but it was just I don't even know if he wound up on the show but just the way that the producers were like trying to get these activists trigger them to activate was all wrong no this is such a bad idea like just even as like a premise like because when you're describing the show it kind of reminds me of celebrity apprentice like all these people getting together to like raise money like for a cause but like those were famous people doing it and like it was somewhat interesting when they did it

I don't understand like from an entertainment perspective like who thought this show would be like fun to watch like it's like sad and the Julianne Hough of it all. Like, I don't know how she could sign on to this show not thinking that her 2013 blackface would resurface. And honestly, like, doing blackface is such a big deal. Like, it's atrocious. She really never got, like, it was, like, a big deal, but it was, like... When it happened.

Right, she didn't get, like, this huge cancel. Like, when I think of, like, how, okay, here's a good example. Like, Megyn Kelly, like She didn't get, like, this huge cancel. Like, when I, like, when I think of, like, how, okay, here's a good example. Like, Megyn Kelly, like, got fired for, like, kind of defending blackface and just saying, like, but if it's a costume, like, it was, like, a, she didn't do blackface. It was in conversation. It was in conversation. And, like, when you think of, like, Megyn Kelly versus Julianne Hough, Julianne Hough is, like, an A-lister, you know?

And, like, Megyn Kelly, like, has a YouTube channel, you know? Yeah, yeah. So I don't know like who on her team advised her that this would be a good idea. Of course her past indiscretions would become a topic of conversation. And honestly, I feel like now she might go through like a cycle of cancellation. Yes. And also, even if this show were a good idea activists at activating activating and competing with other activists say like that premise didn't bother people like the judges should be activists like

who can give such a good call who can like you know famous activists who could like give critique about like how to activate or what you're doing like not just celebrities telling these activists what to do with their life right like technically the activists could teach the celebrity a thing or two not vice versa right and and i don't even think the host should be or judges should be celebrities who also happen to be active no it should be like activists by day and activists by night yes like not celebrity by famous day. Who's a famous activist? I'd have to think about who might. Like Gloria Steinem. Sure.

Okay. Yeah. Like that. Yeah. But no. That's another element of why this is moronic. So I just think across the board from beginning to end,

everything about this show has rubbed people completely the wrong way. I don't know if the show is even going to air. It really shouldn't. Even though I can't lie like I might tune in just to see how stupid it is. Like yeah no and it's just so embarrassing like for everyone. It is and I just do think like this show and I guess they they filmed episodes so. So it's coming. It's set to premiere on October 22nd on CBS and Paramount Plus. You guys I don't think it's going to make it to October 22nd. No and you know what You guys, I don't think it's going to make it to October 22nd.

No, and you know what? This is just like another example. It's kind of like the Imagine video. Claudia, I was thinking the same thing. This is like people in Hollywood like really thinking they're doing something and that like they can teach us like how to be good. A thing or two. And it's like you think you're helping and like we, us normies,

like we see you for what you truly are, which is ugly. Like, they just think they're really doing something, and like, we're just gonna eat it all up. And like, we're just looking at them like, you guys really think like you're everything of the sort. Do you know how many people had to work on this show, approve this show, greenlight the show, produce the show, and nobody thought like, is this out of touch? Not one person said that? Mm- beyond beyond so the countdown is on until October 22nd and Julianne Huff releases like this long statement on her Instagram yes I'm properly acknowledging like all of it the moronic nature of this journey. I don't think the show will air. No,

I don't think it will either. I don't think it should. It's one of those things that will just like, but then justice for the activists who like thought they were getting their big break, you know? Yeah. But it also sounds like from the activist perspective,

it was nothing of the sort. Right. You know? And like, they're like, why can't all activists like do what they want to do? Why can't, why has there,

there only to be one activist? Like, why are we ranking activists? The activists. activists it didn't say like it's not a show called activism it's not the show isn't called i think we're all activists honestly activist is just one of those words that you say too many times whereas we've said it too many times and now i'm like it's gibberish it's like i don't know activist i feel that way about the word garage. I know you do. So does the viewers. I'm sorry. It's fine. Let's head into the TV recap, which is brought to you by, oh, Bruch.

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That's 15% off using promo code toast at bruch.com. Thank you Claudia. Okay tell me. Tell everyone because I know. About where I'm at with Lula Rose. What episode are you on and what are you feeling? I just finished episode three where one of the consultants said I looked into hiring a class action lawyer. Got it. So I have one episode left and I think that's really where all the shit hits the fan. So I'm sure everything I

say today I will totally reject after watching the fourth episode where I see like what was going on. The air of their ways. But do you feel like it took them a little too long in the documentary to explain like what was up like what's the problem I still don't understand the problem really like I see that there's like faulty um leggings leggings and stuff but then you know and some of the people in the documentary were those who experienced the faulty leggings. But then you also have the owner. I forget his name. Deanne's husband. Deanne and Mark.

Mark. And he was, and he's like saying that those were not, that those were very small percentages of whatever. But I also, but I don't understand. Like, so if all of the leggings. It wasn't, it wasn't because at one point they had to pay people back for the shitty inventory they sold. And they spent over $50 million paying people back. So it was a lot of people.

Okay, so that I will learn in the fourth episode. But what I don't understand is like, why did the quality all of a sudden get so terrible? I mean, obviously you- They were just two hillbillies running a billion dollar company. Like they had no experience they hired high level people their nephews and their sons they didn't know and by the way their growth was unbelievable and if they had stayed I think at like 15,000 retailers they could have been successful even 50,000 but a hundred thousand no that that requires like c-suite level

people a ceo right but then also at a certain point there is a cap to how many retailers you can have even if you have bob eiger running your business because then there's a woman there's seven other women in her town who are selling lularoe and like everybody's got their leggings like there is a you do max out so i think they reach that point where also like the inventory but they didn't care because they were then a business that was only dependent on how many retailers they had nobody was even selling shit like over 70 percent of their retailers were making no money like their business and that's why it was an illegal pyramid scheme their business had nothing to do with how many leggings

their retailer sold because the retailers had to buy for mark and dm okay but the retailers were selling the leggings at least in the beginning. Like, you know, the women. No, but see, the people they got on the documentary are the women who. Had success. Had success. Like, out of the 100,000,

they said, like, less than 1% were making, like, six figures. Yes, that I saw. And then, like, so 0.01% were made, were getting those bonus checks. The other 70% were made, um, we're getting those bonus checks. The other 70% were not because they didn't have people below them. They just had leggings to sell. And that's like fundamentally why a pyramid scheme is illegal. But like in the beginning, when one of the women, like she does her first legging party

and she comes home with like $1,400, why can't someone at the bottom of the tier do that? Because that's just not how, that's like pyramid schemes are designed designed to keep 80 of the retailers losing money or making no money that's like that's what that guy was explaining that's why they're illegal got unless you're like a mentor and you get up to like a when you're just like a the bottom level of the like if you were just selling leggings there's no money to be made very little especially when you have to pay so much for the the shit yeah anyways okay so talking about the the that end of it which is what I'm about to get into and I'm sure I will you know but in the beginning yes I know what you're gonna say beginning like and with all of the like marketing that we're doing and like all the ways it changed like so

many women's lives for the better for a very long time before it all turned sour I'm just like I'm I'm ready to shop LuLaRoe like no I know it was actually really sad they also the way that they describe these leggings like I do want to try them and I saw someone commented yesterday like get them in black you were making fun of leggings but that's just because you haven't tried them yet apparently they are just like magic yeah um so like that's pretty enticing to me. But also just like this, in the beginning, like the fact that like women could stay at home and then also have this little shop

and, you know, full-time income for part-time work, et cetera, et cetera. But then it's clear that like the message. No. And execution, we can all agree. Fucked.

They moldy, smelly. I don't want that shit in my house. Yeah. I'm quitting. Yeah. But the message started to change too and it was not no longer about this is part-time work first of all you're not working hard enough if you're not working full-time right and second of all your husband should quit his job and work on this take on the real responsibilities while you just like

make videos no but also he should be invested in lula road too that way you can never exit because at so many points I'm like watching this thing and I'm like, okay, things started to feel weird. You know, maybe you took your money, you get out. Right. It's good. But when your whole family, and that's why the woman at the end who like literally has to go into bankruptcy and gets divorced, it's because their whole. I haven't gotten to her yet. Their whole life is dependent on this company that lets them down.

Right. And it's clear that like from the top down, like that was what was encouraged when that was not the bill of goods that was sold at the beginning. Right. So in the beginning, this premise, this idea, and also like to Deanne's credit, like it sounds like from her story, she started about it in a natural way. She was, you know, she went to the swap meet and she saw these dresses. She sold them for a little more. She made skirts in her kitchen. Everybody liked them them one of her friends wanted to sell them and it really like the pyramid started in just like a word of mouth like she likes making clothes and selling like in a very industrious strap on your boots sort of way I know but by the end of the documentary I'm like can I

believe anything these people say like they become so delusional and it's like at first when I'm watching I'm like these people are so sweet like they just want to help stay-at-home moms and like i do believe like that their intention in the beginning was not to fuck over millions of people but by the end of the documentary like you really don't know what to believe like the best thing is like he the the documentarian says to dianne like what what made you want to start a brand that like empowers women and like what does it mean to be women empowerment speaks over her and he's like actually you know Deanne can I take this one yeah like it was so funny so I just don't know but like my my feelings at the end were like I thought it was like so earnest and sweet in the beginning

but like these people are like like delusional okay so being delusional isn't a crime no but stealing money from people is we'll get there i'm not there yet so i'm just saying up so with the moldy leggings they like refuse to buy it back from people and people had spent ten thousand dollars on their you know startup fees to get moldy leggings yeah yeah no no no i i get that like i but they never got into why the leggings were moldy but they just just, it was because they were leaving them outside. They just, they just lost control of the whole thing. Like they're like, once they started growing, like they should have been like acquired by someone or put a CEO in who has like fortune 500 experience. Two people with no business experience besides selling clothing cannot run a billion dollar

company. They just can't. Yeah. With their kids. With also a hundred thousand essentially contractors. Right. Like let's say you're a their kids with also a hundred thousand essentially contractors right like let's say you're a restaurant they had a hundred thousand stores yeah but like all those retailers are people with personalities and like things you know it's it's a complex organism that they're dealing with yes so I agree with that but I also think that no matter

who was running it it was gonna get too big but the way that it just blew up, like it was just. It was crazy. Crazy. I had. And it's just so crazy. I never heard of it. I know. But I guess like I was like in college or.

Right. Just not in the MLM space. No, not in the MLM space. So it was. It's very interesting. And they're just characters like Deanne and Mark. Yeah. So I will finish it.

I just, yeah, I want to see where a lot of the women who are speaking right now, like where they ended up. Like if any of them were able to be like, you know what? This is just getting to be too all consuming. Like I'm going to take my wins and go. Just watch. Yeah. They have like five people who all do different things.

Okay. Like I hope that there were people out of the hundred thousand or even the, you know, mentors, trainers who made good money and at a certain point realized like, I'm going to. Check out. I'm going to step away. There's one girl like that. Okay.

And she's the one who like was like top. She was a third retailer. She's like the top employee at the company. Okay. I know her. She stepped back, not because she had a bad experience or was not making money but she it just didn't feel right that like literally 90 like 90 000 people were making no money and she was yeah and there's actually a woman and you'll figure out which one it is who still sells for lularoe well there's one woman talking about how she wants to keep

selling lularoe like forever and how she's working on her sixth cruise yeah she's talking about that throughout the documentary which also makes me feel like, well, people are still doing it. They're still in business. I just looked at their Instagram the other day, and all the comments are, like, flooded. Obviously, like, great documentary. But they're still in business. I don't get it.

Well, we'll see. I have to watch the fourth episode. I just, I was really on the journey with this brand. No, because it really, like, for a while, like, was this, like, female empowerment, like, machine. Even machine even if like her brand of female empowerment was like you know traditional traditional yes and also like empowering women like within the home like still can't leave the home no totally but like by the way there are a lot of people in our country who do that right no but and also those women had already made the choice to stay at home like it

wasn't like she was forcing them to stay home when they wanted to like enter the workplace so she was giving them something to do so I I don't hate all of that um definitely like want to go to a Tupperware party soon um but then it definitely turns toxic and the stuff with like the weight loss surgery so weird but then it also feels like these women were so close like it's clear that if you were in this like if you were in dianne's inner circle like right the chat like the lularoe skinnies like lularoe was your whole life you know and so if one friend it's just like you know if you're in a friend group and one friend goes and gets this bracelet like yeah you know we're all it doesn't stop at leggings no and so on the one hand it's like okay she's their boss and she's like kind of convinced

them all to get weight loss surgery. Like that's incredibly fucked up. But on the other hand, when like you're in like a circle and this thing is your whole life for better or for worse, you get like influence. Oh my God, you look amazing. What'd you do? Oh, okay. I'll do it.

Even if it's just like a facial. Right. Or a moisturizer. No, I feel that. You know? Yeah. But everything with Lula Rowett is extreme. Yeah. And when it's everything with lula roette is the extreme yeah and when it's with your work it borders on inappropriate and unprofessional

right but they like because it's not a workplace and you're it's your whole life right yeah so there's just blurred lines everywhere it's an interesting documentary just because it's the most bizarre story ever yeah and i also feel like before this documentary, I could never understand, well, the MLM to begin with, but also like why someone, they get such a bad rap. Like, how do you even enter one at this point? Right. No, it's much harder now. That's what I was saying. This, this is what, like their, their success was a perfect storm of a million things. Like being obsessed with leggings at the time, like it was so trendy. And 2013, like there were no Instagram accounts or documentaries exposing pyramid

schemes it was just like a business right and so but now this documentary made me understand how people a lot of people get into MLMs yeah of course it's you're being sold a bill of goods that is false but like if the product is good yeah well I just have to say like I used for a while a rodent and fields eyelash serum that was amazing someone gave it to me and then like I could never buy it again because I had to like join a pyramid scheme to get it which sucks because it's literally the best and by the way anytime I talk about it like I'm gonna get hit up with so many rodent and fields consultants like here use my code like yeah um so i do think that they're i don't know like i'm not into the whole i don't know as much i mean i don't i actually don't know

anything about mlms but there is a limit to how much they can grow now like we will never have a lula role moment ever again because we're all so hip to what goes on in mlms if something is an mlm and not a pyramid scheme, you're not making money based on the people that you bring, that you recruit. You're making money based on the products sold and you really believe in the product. So MLMs are legal, but they're unethical.

Why? There are many documentaries on it, but the culture in MLMs is very toxic. They brainwash a lot of the women. Like it's very culty. What if you establish an MLM that had a good culture? You should work on that. You know like the lines are so confusing. I don't really understand a lot of it. Yeah just people like so many people choose to do a lot of MLMs and then they get like just the worst reputation. But like the MLM part is

legal. If you're selling a product that you like love and you just want to sell sell sell and you also are getting like you know making money from home just on selling product like I don't think that the women who join MLMs like what I've heard from people who have left MLMs is that like they don't love the product like these women love the leggings yes they did that's why that's why it's a unique story okay they don't love the product I don't think like they love you know the makeup and the toothbrushes whatever like that they're selling love the product I don't think like they love you know the makeup and the toothbrushes whatever like that they're selling okay that's just what I think interesting um and then really quickly I started fleabag last night okay it's disgusting why did you do that

because my friend Abe whose opinion I respect like said I would love it but it's time like it passed no I know and like I just want to say, like, I think it's, like, the worst show. You should start Mare of Easttown. No, I think I was going to start Killing Eve next. Have you watched it? You're so serious. No. No, I know.

I'm just, like, I've watched everything. Like, I'm so, I'm at, you know, rock bottom. Yeah. What about Mare of Easttown? I actually want to watch it. I know, but that I actually missed the boat on. No, no, no. Fleabag and Killing Eve you missed the boat boat on but they're still on the air oh like new seasons come out where is the new season of mazel have you ever watched mazel no you would love it like

adore okay oh my god i know fuck i forgot that it was sitting right next to me oh my god he just touched me oh my my God. Um, I know. That's what everyone says that I would love it. Is she okay? No. Oh my God. Like,

oh my God, you're so dramatic. You are so fucking mean. Okay. I'm going through something right now. I scare very easily. And my heart rate is just really fast. Give me one fucking second,

bitch. The most dramatic person. Look at her. Get the camera on her. Jackie, you are actually gaslighting me right now. Like, let me just have my moment. Like, I'm actually going to cry, okay? I was very scared.

I'm fine now. I just need a moment to catch my breath. Okay. Okay, I'm fine. Oh, my God. Are you okay? Fucking bitch. Yeah, I'm fine.

Don't act like you care. No, now I care you like you i'm okay i was just startled he gave me a fright things happen frights happen yeah they do they do are you a person who frights easily i am like if i look at myself in the mirror and i didn't like realize i was standing there like i will actually almost i have i get scared so fucking easily i guess i do get a fright easily like especially especially with Zach just like skulking around. I'm just like the... If I get into an elevator and there's a person in it,

I scream. That's insane. No, but it's a... I'm not even being dramatic. It's such a natural reflex because I'm just mindlessly minding my own business and you don't expect to see someone in an elevator unless I'm in like a busy, busy corporate building.

But like here, it's like a quiet building. My home is is a quiet building and I'm just like walking in and I look up and there's a person like I'll yelp and they think I'm crazy but it's nine times out of ten I'll scream damn I'm sure they do think you're crazy you want to hear something why don't you walk in looking up it's just by the way I have an even crazier one for you. This is moronic, but it happens a lot. Sometimes my doorbell will ring and I'll open the door, like knowing that there's someone on the other side and I'll be like, sorry, you scared me. Like, because sometimes I just think like if it's a package being delivered, they just leave it right outside.

So it's like 50-50 when I open the door that someone's actually there, not just like a delivery that was left outside. Yeah. So I just, I like, I take a step back. You're opening the door. I'm opening the door. Like someone rang the bell. They gave me full warning and I'm still like.

That's so funny. No, I know. Damn. Spooky season. It is spooky season though. I don't want to end the show because then it's officially like Yom Kippur, you know? Yeah, but we do have a call. We do?

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