The Toast - S4 Ep165: The Seven Husbands of Christina Haack: Monday, September 20th, 2021

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast brought to you by BetterHelp. It doesn't matter who you are or what you have. Life can be pretty damn hard. And without a healthy mind, it's even harder. Check out online therapy with betterhelp.com slash toast and be on your way to a little more ease. Good morning, Jackie. How are you? Good morning, Claude. You know, I've been better if I had to categorize this day.

I would say it's turning into a Cleveland day. Jackie, I hear you. I know you've been through a lot this morning with the president being in town and the, like... Is the president in town? It's the UN General Assembly. Oh. This week. Probably both if I had to guess. Right. I president in town it's the u.n general assembly oh this week probably both if i had to guess right i think one precludes the other therefore like the city turns into a hot mess gridlock can't get anywhere streets closed down but i implore you to have a different perspective on the matter if i may okay i'm listening it's mond Monday we're rising we're grinding we're hustling this is our week we're

gonna be successful make changes be happy come on it's a Monday what's wrong with you I don't know did something happen yeah I tripped and fell on my head you're living in a parallel universe you're like a positive person no come on it's Monday you're like someone who posts inspiration quotes we're rising and grinding are you not I this morning you know what I was this was like the first time in a few weeks that my hair is done because I've had no energy the last two weeks to do it but we had um our friend Kristen's bridal shower yesterday so my hair I did it yesterday and I was excited to like come here you know here's my hair it's so long gorgeous um and i'm wearing some new maternity clothes my shirt and my pants are both from asos maternity oh did you enjoy the journey of asos maternity i did i also

tried on a dress this morning that just it tried it tried me okay i understand what it did and still i kept my upbeat out did you return the dress or you're gonna keep it no because no i'm not returning you never know and also it maybe if it was shortened it would be cuter but if i wore that to the toes like you would take me for evaluation you would say something happened to her yeah okay so let's check on the baby the pants and my and top are from asos maternity so i'm feeling comfortable and then my sweater and my shoes are from joshua sanders which was um the shoes too the shoes too what is this company i'm okay remember i'm skinning you i you are gonna they sent you that sweatshirt you're getting me one and I want the shoes okay okay but remember that time I got those pink boots that were like

um sort of like what's the word like Timberlands but like they were yes of course of course okay that brand is Joshua Sanders and I was so excited about the boots I posted them on my story and then like they reached out and so when I announced my pregnancy, they were like, we wanna send you a few things. Oh, that is so sweet, sending tings? They sent tings, so I got to pick out a few tings that I wanted, including these shoes and this sweater,

which I love so much. Maybe I'll just place an order and stop waiting for free things. I'll just place an order. Well, I was gonna let you borrow this sweater because I do think you would really like it. It's- And it's so you, like it has the smileys on it. No, I'm telling you telling you you didn't hear for me because I'm not really much of

a fashion expert but like cardigans are a thing like they are officially thing and I have one how many times can I wear this Taylor Swift merch like I need real cardigans and cashmere you do so we'll get we'll we'll hook you up thank you so so much how was your weekend my weekend was good it was actually pretty good you know a lot of time spent with brew so important a little it was productive for me considering I am the laziest bitch alive these days like I got a manicure that's nice and we had the bridal shower and I did my hair I'm telling you like it is overdrive last week alone I had two bridal showers and a bachelorette party like we're doing double duty we're doing double duty and it's like the last licks of nice weather in New York so like so much shit's coming up like

weddings bridal showers so it is a full-time job having so many friends and being as popular as I am I know I feel like nobody was as busy or popular as the snitch have you been following her her journey yeah what do you mean she's just like out every night looking gorgeous she's really being like an influencer I know I feel so proud like a proud you mean? She's just like out every night, up every morning. Looking gorgeous. She's really being like an influencer. I know. I feel so proud. Me too. Like a proud big sister. I saw her just like, you know, hanging out with other influencers on her Instagram and I'm like, you go, it counts. You influence. And then like other influencers I follow, like my little sister was coming up on their stories as I was just like cruising around. I'm like, go counts. Go counts. She's so influential. Well, honestly, I had such a balanced weekend because I spent Friday night doing absolutely

nothing, watching so much Downton Abbey, being so at peace with myself. And then on Saturday night, I hit the town hard. I guess you could call it a concert kind of emo night. Yeah. It's a club night. It's not a concert. Well, Webster Hall's not a club. Yes, it is.

No, it's a concert venue. You couldn't just hit the clubs at Webster Hall? No, it's like not a concert well Webster Hall's not a club yes it is no it's a concert venue you couldn't just hit the clubs at Webster Hall no it's like not a thing well it's also five floors so like doesn't something different happen on every floor is it that's what I've heard well whatever I had the best time it was emo night you know like Erin Guilfoy from the vlog squad her fiancee runs these events it's called emo night LA and they do them all over the country and they had ben dj there's like a 30 minute guest spot dj after carly and erin dj'd and ben like put together a playlist and honestly thank god for erin because like ben did not know how to work the technology at all um it was so fun it's like emo music so you know like simple plan like the usual 90s semi-charmed kind of life fallout boy which is Ben's like favorite type of music. And honestly, it's like one of my top genres.

It was so fun. Like if you have a local emo night, I encourage you highly to do it. It looked really fun. It was so fucking fun. I'm glad you guys had a good time. And then I watched so much Downton Abbey. And honestly, like I'm obsessed. Every minute I'm not in my bed being transported to Downton,

is a minute wasted of my life. I agree. By the way, how does Theo feel about Downton? Does he love it? Because Brew loved it. No, he doesn't have a particular like connection to it at all. They're hunting and the dogs. They very rarely hunt.

When we finished Downton, Brew was inconsolable. So I'm like nervous. I'm like at the end of season three that means I'm about to be at four and there's only six. Like I'm really like a need to slow down. But then you have the movie. I know. And then you have the next movie coming out this Christmas that you have to look forward to. So I don't want to. I feel like that's a lot to look forward to. I don't want to spoil anything so if like you're thinking about watching it just like put this on pause really quickly but I'm about to say something that happened. Okay we'll give you

a signal when she's done oh my god like lady sybil dead death just childbirth over that was so shocking i mean honestly like i think the key to a good show is like killing off main characters and if somebody had to go like it was going to be simple like she didn't even live at downton she was in ireland and honestly they were like so rebellious they were starting to annoy me like everything had to be like a problem you know like they couldn't live in eng they had to go to Ireland they didn't want to work he had to work in a garage you know he couldn't be Catholic they had to it couldn't be Christian had to be Catholic like everything was like a fucking problem with them and honestly like as much as I wanted Sibyl to be her own woman

like you have to respect your family and she did not respect her family honestly at all I agree I mean you're in for for so much, does she come back for the dad? No, no, no, no. No, but like. But they just offered Tom a job. Yeah. Which I want him to stay. Yeah.

Like, what is he going to do in Liverpool with nobody? Like, everyone's there. They love you. And they're really. And they have the baby now. Right. With a sibby. And everyone is like growing.

Tom is growing on everyone. Like, the only one who really still like doesn't like him is the dad who by the way I kind of take back every good thing I said about he's such a loser like he is no like he's turning into one of my least favorite characters like his refusal to modernize like in any capacity is so frustrating and I guess like the dowager countess also has that kind of mentality but when she does it it's funny like she's fabulous fabulous but and you know what and she knows when she like can you know give a little give a little he's so fucking stubborn like even Matthew when it's like he's just stubborn for stubborn sake like whereas the dowager is principled no okay so like he was absolutely kerfuffled devastated when he lost his money and now Matthew

invested in Downton because he got the fortune from Lavinia's family and he's looking at the paperwork and he's like this is the most poorly run estate in the country. Like, no wonder why we have to be saved once a generation. Like, I just saved you. And honestly, if we can fix things up, like we could be a self-sufficient estate till the end of time, which is such a reasonable thing to say. And like, literally, the dad was so devastated when he lost his money.

Now that like Matthew saved him, he wants nothing to change, even though Matthew's like literally pointing out, if we do this, we can make X. It's so simple. He's so fucking stubborn. He's saying no just because it wasn't his idea, and he's feeling like he's being pushed out, but it's like, you know what? Maybe you should be pushed out.

Oh, also, Mr. Bates got out of prison. Thank God. That whole storyline was honestly too dragged out. That was a dark time. No, and honestly, for a while, I'm like, let him rot in prison. I just couldn't have cared less anymore. They dragged it out way too long. There the two of them oh and then Thomas just got caught trying to kiss that new boy uh James who's not gay and O'Brien like set the whole thing up and I hate Thomas when he got in trouble with Mr. Carson

like I actually felt bad for him like that's how bad Miss O'Brien, like, fucked him over. And have you, has that chapter closed on what's going to happen? No, no, no. Mr. Carson, like, just found out. Okay. And it's, like, hella homophobic. It's, like, crazy that it was only, like, a hundred years. Actually, a hundred years is a long time, but it's just still, like, crazy, like, the shit people used to say. Really crazy. Keep watching.

But I do want, I need Thomas out. Keep watching for those three words you are fired no no you will never guess them but there's three words that just change the really oh my god

I need to get out of here like I have to go I have such a busy day first of all we're podcasting with a guest later then I'm expanding my journey to seeing

the snow by Christmas I'm seeing that apartment I sent you last night I'm I'm not optimistic at all I'm more optimistic about this one than the one that you saw on Friday so update for the one that I saw on Friday it was nothing of the sort okay Jackie hated it and like I didn't really love it but every person I've been showing it to and like telling them the location they're like you have to

get it like I'm telling you it's probably already gone and they got like a thousand dollars over asking like your friends don't want you to be happy I'm sorry like I just I know you so well the thing is I'm sure like sure that location is great but you also need home you need like yeah so while the apartment wasn't ideal there were a few things that did stand out one the realtor told me Dakota Johnson nope Dakota Fanning used to live in that apartment the one that I actually saw and that was exciting then he also told me that he's not sure if he still lives there but John Mayer lived lived told us that live in the building and that was exciting. Then he also told me that he's not sure if he still lives there but John Mayer lived, lives,

lived in the building and that was a real exciting journey. But you know what? I couldn't tell, like the apartment wasn't perfect for me but the two girls

who lived there and I'm so sorry to put them on blast, like they were slobs. I could not believe like how people were living and they had pictures of themselves.

What is that? Is there a man behind you? No. Oh. There was like pictures of themselves everywhere i'm like these are literally gorgeous girls like tidy up you have company and maybe i didn't like the apartment because it was a pigsty i know because i'm not even thinking of their sty i'm

thinking of the floor pan it was just nothing of the sort it's a downgrade from your apartment now like you i don't know what you're doing honestly i think you're just like there's such low inventory like i have lowered my bar significantly. But you can't lower your bar below your current apartment. Yeah, I agree with that. Right? Like, what's the point? I guess because I'm moving to like a different area.

Yeah. Like, prices vary per area. Yeah. I don't know. I'm seeing another one today. I don't have high hopes, but I do like the area. But like, honestly, this apartment appears to be nothing of the sort. But like, I have to start actively looking.

I have to start manifesting like that. Yeah. Okay. Well, good luck to you. Thank you. I'll be here along the way, you know, giving you my honest feedback. You're welcome to come. As I always do.

I will come when I think it's the one. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, of course. Because you know I can't make a decision. That's a long car ride for a pregnant, nauseous nauseous lady no I will not subject you to any torture until the timing is right thank you very much um as for me I watched a show called Wolf Hall

on Friday and Saturday it was only six episodes um it's about Henry VIII and like Thomas Cromwell star-studded of course Claire Foy Damian Lewis you know all the people Game of it was like a mixture of Game of Thrones and The Crown. Speaking of Game of Thrones, literally Sir Richard Carlyle being Jorah from Game of Thrones. Remember how Mary always almost marries that? Yeah. No, you'll start to notice that the same folks start to show up. Yeah, there's like a British acting crew that like all act in the same shit. Yes.

And if Downton like sparks a historical journey for you, you'll see your old friends around. Delightful. Yeah. And then I started last night Outlander. Oh yeah. Because everybody tells me to watch it because it's like historical.

Oh, is it? Yeah. And it's like a bit of time travel. And I'm three episodes in. Everyone said, well, someone said to me that the first two episodes are like so slow. If you get through them, you'll love the show. And I agree. They were slow, but like, I'm into it. And then someone else said only the first four episodes are good. And then the rest

will traumatize you. There's like five seasons. That's crazy. So I'm just going to, you know, take it at my own pace, but I'm really enjoying it. And it's nice to have like, I have a show to look forward to every single day. I'm'm probably never gonna read again because I'm just watching Outlander no I'm done with my Kindle like Downton Abbey is the only thing I need ever for the rest of my life like it's so fucking good I wish there was 10 seasons I could watch even like the most boring shit like you know nonsensical drama you think that and then you'll watch the movie oh and you'll say you know what enough is enough yeah that's that's a fair point yeah but's good. It makes you like want to be done with it. Yeah.

Well, we have a great show because not only is it, you know, Monday, five fast-paced stories, the Emmys were on last night, lots to discuss, but also Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and Potomac were on last night. So we have a big, fat, juicy TV recap

for you at the end of the episode. So stay tuned for that. And if that's all, I think I am personally ready to put my swimming cap on and dive in. I agree. Oh, I guess this is an alert that the Downton spoiler is over. Oh, yeah.

Downton spoiler is over. Good luck, guys. Yeah. Okay. Without further ado-do-do-do. Where are you? Not here today because we have guests. Gorgeous.

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Okay. It's a pleasure. halo collar.com slash toast thank you okay it's a pleasure first story emmys winners and losers last night was the 2021 emmys awards i'm sure majority of you like us did not watch no but i kept up with the winners because weirdly enough like i watched like a good amount of the shows that were nominated like the crown hacks right queen's gambit so we'll share the winners and talk about any standout fashions if you have anything that stood out to you to be honest i want to say that it did feel like you know in some ways like the emmys were so irrelevant like they were like no a-listers there like you

know well it was just the people who are in these shows i know it just like felt like no one famous was there the emmys are i mean sometimes i feel like like the Emmys are like lit. No, I mean, out of all the award shows is excluding the Tonys. No offense. The Emmys are the most irrelevant. Yeah, I would agree. Like the Golden Globes. Then Oscars and Grammys are probably tied. Yeah. For most relevant in terms of the like big ones. But then they're also every year more and more irrelevant and like you see the ratings go down and it's just like a big circle jerk for these people totally you know but but you know but then on the other side of the coin I was gonna say like I actually feel like this year I was was maybe a year I should have watched

because I was actually like invested in a lot of the shows that were nominated like specifically hacks but like I'm good with just reading who won afterwards like I don't like watching it on YouTube you know that I don't need to listen to a speech not one none not one okay zero zero zero none okay let's go through the winners drama series best drama series that's a big category the crown one as they should can't go wrong with the crown can never go wrong with the crown and you know what like we have one season of the crown left and they deserve all of it until then lead actor in a drama series josh o'connor the crown he played prince charles and you know what he was quite convincing because like i literally see that man and i want to punch him in the neck and it's

not even the real prince charles like that's how method acting he was. He's literally Prince Charles. Yeah. Lead actress in a drama series, Olivia Colman, The Crown. Oh, wow. Is this what we call a sweep? Well, no. Well, yes, I guess for the drama series, it would be a sweep for these people.

I feel like she's good, and she's won before. Jackie, don't even say anything negative. I guess maybe no one else was, like, better than her this year, but I feel like it could have been like, it could have been someone else. No, she's so stellar. She's so queenie. Like I love her.

And she made the sweetest speech. Like I actually did get teared up because like her dad passed away like six months ago and it was just like such a sad, sweet speech. And we stan. So like no Olivia Colman slander. Like ever. No, there was no slander.

You were being slanderous for sure. And I just want to say, so I've been seeing Claire Foy in a lot of other shows, but the first thing I ever saw her in was The Crown and she was so amazing. She's the younger queen. She's the younger queenie. And I thought like she was the queen to me. Like she was so sweet and queen-like and everything.

She was great. In every other show, she plays like such a wench. Really? And it's so crazy because now I'm like, oh, she's like the mean girl. Like she played Anne Boleyn yeah uh Wolf Hall she also played like this Nazi sympathizing oh awful woman in Upstairs Downstairs like that's just so it's versatility it's crazy that she even got the queen part and she did such a good job so was this Olivia Colman's last season as the queen because now we're changing time and we need a gray-haired queen yes we're I think we're upgrading once again to Dominic West.

Right. This is the final. And Elizabeth DeBecky. Yeah. Yeah. It's a final casting. Do-do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do-do-do.

The queen. Do-do-do-do-do. The crown. Do-do-do-do-do-do. Monarchy. Do-do-do-do-do-do. The British mandate. crown monarchy the british mandate okay limited series winner was queen's gambit i mean the queen's gambit to me is just the gold standard of television completely agree and anya taylor

jory is also the the gold standard of like what to do when you're cast to like alice fame in a matter of seconds like she's a t's model, and she looked gorgeous. I loved her dress, the updo. Very, like, chignon bat mitzvah. I loved it. Yeah, she looked wonderful. Also, all the other limited series, I haven't watched the other ones, but, like, Mare of Easttown, WandaVision, like, have gotten such high praise.

So, like, it was a competitive category, as it always is. I like a limited series, and I've been meaning to watch Mare of Easttown. Yeah, me too, but, like, it's over. I miss the hype, so, like, who cares? Oh cares oh right you already said that we have this discussion lead actor in a limited series or movie Ewan McGregor Halston oh wow that's so interesting I mean he was good I have mixed feelings about the Halston Netflix thing like I don't even remember like enjoying it when I watched it but now now I, like, reflect on it fondly, if that makes sense. Yeah. Who else was nominated for, like, what shows?

Paul Bettany, WandaVision, Hugh Grant, The Undoing. Oh. Lin-Manuel Miranda, Hamilton, Leslie Odom Jr., Hamilton. Is that from the Hamilton that they just took a camcorder? Yeah, yeah, like the, yeah, the recording. Okay. By the way, I think this absolutely should have gone to Hugh Grant for the undoing. It was the best acting performance I've ever seen because I had no fucking idea if he was the murderer or not.

I agree. And I didn't think Ewan McGregor was that great. I'm not going to lie. I agree. Lead actress in a limited series or movie, Kate Winslet, Mayor of Easttown. Of course. I didn't see it or know anything about it, but the hype has to be real, you know? Yeah, totally.

Lead actress in a comedy series, Jean Smart, Hacks. Okay, let's talk about this. Like, first of all, so blessed, grateful, and honored that Hacks got the credit it deserves. Like, it's such a good show. Jean Smart is, like, having this resurgence. She got a standing ovation from everyone in the room. Like, they would not sit down because, like, she's been in this business for so long. And she just recently, she lost her husband and she like made such a

sweet speech about how like he really put his career on the back burner so that she could thrive and you know have this this flourishing career construction workers for jean smart um and so i just fucking love her and i love the show and i can't wait for season two and i'm so happy for like this moment she's having yeah and she looked sickening in this like sexy little black thing totally love comedy series winner Ted Lasso like I was just talking to my friend Abe about Ted Lasso he was like you would love it and everyone keeps saying that but like I just can't really express and it's really not about the money just the principle like I'm not subscribing to a brand new subscription service for one show I don't watch the morning show so like I'm really gonna pay a whole ass service for one show a month

it's just a principle like I refuse that's a good point so you'll wait till they have more that you want to see that's exactly what I said okay that's fine yeah lead actor in a comedy series Jason Sudeikis Ted Lasso and in Apple TV plus you can't use someone else's login because it's like through your own Apple TV so they charge like your use someone else's login because it's like through your own Apple TV. So they charge like your iTunes. It's only like one per remote. Literally. Damn, they got you good. They got me good. But it must be really good because supporting actress in a comedy series, Hannah Waddingham, Ted Lasso. Supporting actor, went to Brett Goldstein, Ted Lasso. So I'm sure it's all about Ted Lasso. You know, it's good stuff. It's good stuff. Supporting actress in a limited or anthology series or movie,

Julianne Nicholson, mayor of Easttown. Supporting actor in a limited or anthology series or movie, Evan Peters, mayor of Easttown. People were really excited for him. You know, the guy from Sleepover. Of course, of course. Finally had his moment. So yeah, all in all, it was a really exciting award show.

And I actually was very pleased with the results I'm not gonna lie yeah well I'm glad that you enjoyed yourself it seems like you watched the whole thing I mean to be honest I watched all the clips on YouTube and to be honest I think it's disgusting that Downton Abbey didn't win anything well if only like we they should be winning still attention they should be winning still I'm sure they all won. Can you look it up? Downton Abbey Emmys. Yeah. I mean, who do you think is like the best actress in the show? I mean, there are so many.

Mr. Carson literally, I think, is the best actor ever. But the Dowager. If she wasn't winning, supporting. Oh, the Dowager. She's so good. She said the funniest thing in a most recent episode. Can I tell you? Yeah, she's always saying, please remind me.

Okay, so they're deciding between two footmen, like who's better,, whatever. One of them is, like, more hardworking, but the other is, like, really cocky and full of himself, but really handsome. So, obviously, they choose the handsome one because, you know, the maid's downstairs, like, they need something to live for, and, like, they're, like, you know, they literally, like, the family told Carson to choose the handsome one, and when they're having that conversation, he's like, you know, in the real world, like skill is more important than beauty. And the dowager was like, oh, if only that were true. It was just such an iconic moment

from an iconic fucking queen. So tell me, who won what? They won 15 Emmys. Oh, by the way, something really interesting about the Emmys last night. Two things. One, RuPaul won again and is now the most decorated Emmy winner. Yeah.

Two, The Handmaid's Tale set a record last night going 0 for 21. They were nominated 21 times. They did not win one single thing. And previously before that, there was a show that Mad Men, one of their seasons, had been nominated for 17 awards and not won any. And that was like the previous record. But Handmaid's Tale beat them out by not winning one single award last night. That's really funny.

I know. That's good to know. Okay, here's the Emmys that they've won. Outstanding Hairstyling for a single camera series. Who individually has won? Outstanding Production Design for a Narrative Period Program. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series, Maggie Smith. Maggie Smith, thank God.

There were other nominees, but, like, Mr. Carson did get nominated once, but he did not win. Oh, no. Outstanding Hairstyling again. Actually, I feel that. The hair is so ugly and, like like so on theme with the years. You know what I don't like is that like I think for the most part they're living in the 20s. And like the fashion in the 20s is not it.

I'm sorry. Like these like drop waist Gatsby like long beaded necklaces. I hate it. I know. It's like flapper. Yes. But in the, you know, British aristocracy. Heinous.

You expect them to be wearing like hoop skirts and bonnets. Mary's wedding dress was literally offensive. Like, an atrocity. It was like this drop-waist nightgown. Just keep watching. Hopefully. Because something's going to happen. Oh, really?

That, no, like, that just only you will be so, like. It better be about Edith because I fucking hate that bitch. And everything she's that's happening to her that's called karma no and it's called like you are leading the life that you fucking deserve because you ratted out your family publicly and you are literally a menace and not only are you a menace your sister never even told on you so your family doesn't even really know the extent of a they don't even know and blank you are they don't even know who you really are which is ugly okay outstanding music composition for a series who cares give me like outstanding hairstyling

outstanding music composition outstanding supporting actress again dame maggie smith oh wow outstanding costumes outstanding miniseries or movie i guess for the movie outstanding supporting actress in a mary's miniseries or movie Mary's mini series or movie Dave Maggie Smith she's the only one who won and she won three times outstanding directing for a mini series or movie outstanding writing for a mini series or movie outstanding cinematography for a mini series or movie so none of the other actors ever won they didn't want it bad enough because Maggie Smith was constantly raising the bar for everyone that is so crazy that is that is actually crazy someone else like

Michelle Dockery is really good I can't like get a read on Michelle Dockery like I kind of fucking hate her too no I like her I feel like you'll Matthew helps like her her cause yeah and you know that Matthew um he played the beast in Beauty and the Beast. Oh my God. Yes. Oh my God. You know, it's been bothering me. Dan Stevens. Dan Stevens.

And he's in Prince. Gary Gennetti Prince? Yes. And I told you this a few weeks ago, but it didn't mean anything to you because you weren't a Dan Stevens fan yet. Who was he in The Prince? I'm obsessed with him now. Honestly, at first I thought he was too ugly to be cast in this role but now I feel

like he's really growing on me. He plays um Prince Charles and Prince Philip not that Prince Philip has a lot of lines. Oh my god I'm learning so much about Dan Stevens. I'm gonna start a Dan Stevens fan account Instagram like that's how much we stan. No it's crazy how much we stan. Obsessed. Let's see if he was in anything else that we love i'm sure he was he just has like such an unremarkable face that like i couldn't place and he wasn't really in beauty and the beast you know he was beauty and the beast no he was like underneath the beast like we didn't see his face we did at the end oh right he's wearing literally makeup all over his face yeah he was also in Eurovision I know you saw that

right the worst movie of all time I blocked it out of my memory oh okay fine he was in a lot of other stuff too but nothing is so happy for him nothing is iconic okay great I'm so excited that you're on this Downton journey like if only we could sync up sometime let me know if you want to start watching Outlander I'll wait for you honestly like I'm so against it but who knows in six months I'll probably be obsessed okay are you ready for our next story yeah yeah that's a good question yeah we're switching gears completely thank god because the body of missing woman gabby petito believed to be found at grand teton national park in wyoming the fbi says okay this is the story that has just swept the nation the search for missing 22 yearyear-old Gabby Petito

had a tragic update on Sunday with the discovery of remains consistent with the description of the Long Island woman. In a press conference from the Craig Thomas Discovery and Visitor Center in Grand Teton National Park, Charles Jones, the supervisory senior resident agent in Wyoming for FBI Denver,

confirmed human remains consistent with the description of Petito were discovered in the vicinity of the Spread Creek dispersed camping area in Wyoming. Jones said full forensic identification has not been completed to 100% confirmed the body is that of Petito. However, her family was notified of the discovery and the cause of death has not been determined at this time, but they are examining for that.

This is such a crazy story. And like it's become, I mean, people, you know, very sadly like go missing and get murdered a lot but this one garnered such crazy national news because they're both like and actually it's so crazy to watch how much their instagrams have grown over the last like week which is so bizarre but they're like micro travel influence well they're not micro anymore but travel influencers and so like up until recently they had been documenting their whole journey on social media which is now when you go back like so like chilling yeah eerie perfect word to go back and

look at it and I guess there's really no way to know how long Gabby has been dead because they were gone for so long by the time he drove the van back to Florida and like didn't tell anyone like where Gabby was that's when people but she we don't know like she could have been dead for a while and like he was like posting on her social media. And honestly, I've, like, fallen into TikTok with, like, so many people, like, discussing this and investigating on their own. And I just have to say, some of these true crime obsessed people, like, are absolute lunatics.

And they have no respect, like, for actually what's going on. And it's actually been so weird to, like, see people, like, making all these videos, like, screaming, like, thinking that they solved something and like being excited it's so weird that is really no like true true crime tiktok and like these i'm sorry women like who think that they're doing something like going on the not the the national parks that they were at like going on their facebook pages and like literally thinking that they're the fbi and it's like relax like just chill the fuck out like so it's it's been interesting to see how this has like literally become such national news but like I also think people are being like kind of disgusting about it

like I've just seen so many TikToks that I like I just can't believe the way people are acting I obviously like it's not a real person right I haven't seen the TikToks but the way that people you know fancy themselves detectives nowadays because they listen to true crime podcasts it's like just like an only murderers in the building where the police officer is like what podcast are you listening to justice for people who actually solve homicides because it must be so annoying like with the advent of social media and this like obsession with true crime people like really thinking they're doing something yeah and then okay so you didn't watch clickbait but um it's kind of similar like basically someone goes missing and they're like dropping clues the kidnappers like online and there's like all these

subreddits and reddit threads of people like going out and searching and like you know and actually they do come up with like a pretty good lead in the beginning but like that's never how it works and honestly like tv shows need to stop doing that i know i mean that is actually only murders in the building though but i feel like it's almost like a satire of it yes i agree and like even their rationale for you know what they're investigating and when is just so silly yeah it's also such a good show it's such a good show i'm enjoying it immensely you know what also something i've been like literally meaning to tell you about about the show clickbait that like as i was watching it i'm like i can't wait to discuss this on the toast and then we like recapped it quickly and I never mentioned it I really feel like clickbait was put together to really

highlight how unethical journalists are like that's what was my biggest takeaway from the show basically every episode focuses on like a different person involved in this case somehow whether they're like a suspect or just like a journalist and this journalist it was really like the perfect metaphor for how modern day journalists are like they don't give a shit about the people that they're writing about they don't care about actually making change they just want to advance their own careers you know and they and personally like they don't right they don't care about like the you know the success of their newspaper. They want the story for them, and they'll step on anyone.

This fucking nutso journalist broke into the victim's house, broke into this other random victim's brother's house, literally was breaking every single law, being so fucking unethical, and he was so self-righteous. He's like, I need to do this for me. I swear, if I could reach through the television and choke this man, because he was just the person-righteous he's like I need to do this for me like I swear if I could reach through the television and choke this man because he was just the personification of literally like the evil media like like pretending that they're helping while while simultaneously ruining the lives of so many people and doing it in the most unethical way possible

just for them for themselves like not for any other purpose not for any greater good than to hide behind the the cause the cause yeah but then at the end of the day it's just so they can you know be the on-camera person and they can get the promotion and they can like interview it was that was my takeaway I don't know if that's what everyone's takeaway was but I like watching this episode I swear my blood was boiling I mean it's always like that especially in crime things I'll never forget that that thing I never saw the show that you were talking about the assassination of Gianni versace lee miglin because they like the news broke the news that he was um in this certain kind of car model and he was us he had to get a new car and he murdered someone

to get to take their car to take their car so literally lee was responsible for well no lee i'm sorry. Here. Andrew Cunanan, who's the murderer of Gianni Versace, murdered Lee Miglin, took Lee Miglin's car. The news reported that he's in Lee Miglin's car. It looks like this. Look out. So Andrew Cunanan parks the car,

murders someone else, and takes his truck. No, the media's fucking evil. Like, fucking evil. So, sorry for that. It's just been bothering me because I wanted to talk about it. Yeah. Well, this story has really captured a lot of people's attention, especially in the toaster groups.

I mean, everyone's talking about it. So, hopefully, and now Brian, the fiancé. Is missing. Well, not missing. Hiding is what Gabby's family is saying, which tracks. So, hopefully, they're able to find him, too, because he would have answers. But also, when they do forensic autopsy on her body they will be able to tell when she died so that should provide some answers too yeah there's just like so much weirdness about and there's also so much like footage because they're influencers but then also like a couple weeks ago like early

august they were pulled over and he had like all these bruises on him and like i guess like the police were doing like some sort of wellness check and there's like all this body camera footage of like him talking about you know gabby and like talking to the police and like being like so chill and weird it's so bizarre and this is just like one of those things where just like everyday people become murderers and it's fucking weird yeah and then it's also just like a very scary reminder like you really never know who you're sleeping next to yeah are you ready for our next story switching gears once again switching gears to a story that's

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morning toast listeners. If you want to get 10% off your first month, go to betterhelp.com slash toast. That's betterhelp.com slash toast. Thank you. Bravo has asked this season's Real Housewives of New York reunion. This is historic. Bravo confirmed that there will not be a reunion for this season due to scheduling changes around the taping of the reunion for the Real Housewives of New York City in a timely manner. So I was under the impression that they had filmed something like a couple weeks ago, and now they were just like canning it. But I actually now think that they didn't even film anything. Yeah. They wouldn't waste all that budget.

Well, first of all, you said it was remote, so that's less budget. Did I say that? Yeah, when they were supposed to be filming, it was going to be remote, which was weird. Like, Annie didn't want to come back. I must have heard that somewhere, because I don't claim that at all. all like i don't even know what you're talking about that's what you said yeah which tracked also um yeah if it hasn't been filmed by now and it's already been two weeks and then it takes a couple weeks to package it like no thank you i mean i'm grateful so grateful i'm

grateful i'm definitely worried for this franchise but but there is nothing to talk about, really. We could go over some of the fights that were had, but you know what? When most of the time, most of the people were drunk and wouldn't stand by what they said, and we just apologized and all. Like, they're just all so messy. I mean, I guess this officially makes it

the worst season of Housewives ever, because even the most recent season of OC, which was really bad, even they had a two-part reunion, and honestly, it wasn't terrible. It wasn't terrible. And, like, they'repart reunion. And honestly, it wasn't terrible. It wasn't terrible. And they're rebuilding the franchise. Heather's coming back.

There's all this stuff going on. But even they had a reunion. So I think that this officially marks it, the worst season of Housewives ever. We've never not had a reunion, even for the dullest of seasons. I agree. And it really was that.

Yeah. Nothingness. Really awful. The fact that the season finale was a party in Ramona's house with everyone having their tits out pin the tail on the doobin pathetic that's when you that's the lowest point and that's rock bottom I feel like we talk about this all the time but like I don't even know the proper solution here like I almost think like everyone goes every single person and like we just I can't claim any of that negative energy like even like even when Leah came like Leah was so cool and like the show was just so loser you made Leah like into a loser yeah the show is like it the reputation

it's like just terrible like even if a cool person comes on I don't think Bethany would fix it I don't think Dorinda would fix it I don't think Tinsinda would fix it. I don't think Tinsley would fix it. Like I think it's just time for fresh. It is. And maybe we would get, you know. Actually wealthy people. Or just like younger women who are hungrier for. Fame.

Fame. So they'll do the stuff that women used to do on season one. And we could go back to that. But also I think the shows have just become like a little too formulaic yeah and sometimes like you can't it's just like a beast that it created you know I don't know how I also think I think you're right it's so formulaic and like at some point like you're some franchises just expire yeah and I feel like OC expired and I feel like New York expired and I feel like Potomac's at like their best because they're like five years younger maybe maybe more like seven years younger than

other franchises and so they're still like fresh and ripe and Atlanta's getting like kind of dull but Salt Lake City's so good like I think like eventually maybe you retire a franchise for a couple years and then bring it back and do like something else in the meantime because 11 12 13 seasons the only one that's able to survive that is Beverly Hills and that's for obvious reasons like they're actually wealthy and there's always fucking scandals going on yeah but you can't expect like there to be magic with a group of women who I'm sorry are not wealthy and they just get drunk and they don't and whose sole income really is the show and the things that branch off from it. So, like, they're acting at this point. Like, there's no heart.

It's just. And they're not even friends. But they also, like, are not even enemies. Yeah, like, they don't even care anymore. They don't care. They just want to put on a show. I agree with you that maybe it's total clean slate, though there was the rumor that they were going to get rid of everyone but keep Ramona and Ebony.

I would be down for that, too. Which I would be very happy with. And I'm sorry, like, the way that everyone hates Ramona, like, talk about the only interesting thing walking through the doors this season was Ramona. And, like, she's nuts and she's hilarious and she's funny. And, like, and the way that everyone is just so mean to her because they think, like, the audience hates her and they just don't want to be like on team Ramona. I'm sorry.

Ramona's everything of the sort. And I will not accept Ramona Slander anymore. No, I will not. I've stopped putting up with Ramona Slander a while ago. And it's really a great place to be. I recommend that you all try it. But Ramona like is the heart and soul of the show because she's not just like off the walls crazy like Sonia. She's not.

She's actually very lucid. Yeah. Sometimes sometimes sometimes no but then she has her crazy moments and then it's like but we need more women like ramona perfect who have the heart and soul and like really balance want like are invested in female friendships but also sometimes they lose it go bananas yeah totally like you have to do both you can't always be going bananas and you also can't always be perfect and boring boring because and you want a good edit yeah that's like a little like ebony like she's like a little boring and perfect yeah she never got like down and dirty with it yeah but there was nothing to get down in i wouldn't say that any of the new york like they're just a mess but i do feel like there is housewives that come on that are just like they are too scared of any sort of

backlash they're just they won't do anything you can't be they won't step out of line you know so you need people who are a little bit crazy yeah and honestly I just I'm it's not surprising that there's no reunion I just like that's never happened before so it's it's historic it's historic and I'm feeling very personally grateful what happened to class elegance okay next story the seven husbands of christina hack she posts oh my god this was an update about like a seven husbands of evelyn hugo like being made into a movie or something not exactly shit christina yeah she's definitely engaged right posts and deletes another ring with joshua another ring pic with Joshua Hall. So she.

She's so thirsty. I can't. She posted a picture of her on her Instagram of the two of them, a selfie. And she put a heart over her ring finger. It was so not subtle. Like it was so intentional. She could have easily like had not the heart and we saw the ring and then she's like promise ring or whatever. Or she could have just moved her hand.

Or could have moved, put her popsicle down yeah or could just come out with her engagement no like i don't i don't even care if she's engaged because like this is at first like this little like love rhombus between the hacks the musas and steads and steads was interesting and now it's kind of bordering on sad and honestly I don't think it's fair for Ant Anstead to be bringing Renee Zellweger into this this is like this is becoming like twisted like I know and I know that you think so but just I actually never watched flip or flop I it's the most toxic fucking show I really never invested much in like Tarkin Christina and I never really cared about the rhombus until recently but just the fact that like every year Christina has like a new husband it's actually fucking crazy

it's impressive no I know like she must be like you know like have the best game like she knows how to text like she's getting all these men to just like drop down on when he proposed like have children with her buy homes with her and then she's bye. I don't know what is going on with Christina Hack. But I think we could all learn a few things from her. I agree. I agree. And she's, this would be her third marriage. In like three years.

Right. And so like she could be Evelyn Hugo. No, the seven husbands of Christina Hack was the perfect way of putting this. But it's not seven. It's going to be like 35. If she keeps going. At this rate. Yeah.

And like honestly, no shade. Not keeps going. At this rate. Yeah. And like honestly no shade. Not at all. Impressive. Impressive. It's fucking crazy. Like she definitely is engaged. Like it was such an obvious stupid move. Like we're in middle school.

Like you're engaged. Who cares? They probably have like some people exclusive. People magazine is just like eating this like rhombus up. Oh, okay. I'm happy for them. Yeah. I'm actually reading it it in page six this is like their go-to like stupid ass drama yeah and then sometimes they throw heather and tarix cupcakes in oh my god there's always something stupid going on with them also like heather's all they did their joint bachelor

bachelorette party there's so much there's so much mind we should actually change it to heather and tarix mindless news there's so much mindlessness. They're going vegan. The only thing I'll say is that to me, I have no questions why there's mindless news about them. They're putting it out there. That's how they propel their career. They're really not like A-listers or anything. And like, you know, we post on Instagram. Us Weekly writes it up.

That's the ecosystem that we live in. It doesn't make sense for Kelly Ripa. She's too famous for that. She's so famous. She's so legitimate. I think we got It doesn't make sense for Kelly Ripa. She's too famous for that. She's so famous. She's so legitimate. I think we got down to the bottom of it actually last week. She's trying to deflect the narrative. She's trying to undo the did that she did.

You know? Yeah. When it came to the Michael Strahan drama of it all. Like nobody wants to be remembered for having a tantrum because your co-worker who deserved his promotion got one. Like you're a jealous wench. So now I don't think jealous wench when I think Kelly Ripa. I think gorgeous, you know my Stein Goya dress and I just think like mindless always commenting on

her kids Instagram like yeah just something mindless no I'm always thinking like oh her and Mark being thirsty again like that's and you know what that's not a great association but it's better than the Michael Strahan drama yeah she's working her way up it's actually pretty fucking smart it is and I feel like now she's like in like a hamster wheel where like if she stops the mindless news it was probably like a temporary fix like a like not a permanent solution. But now it's like she's been doing it for so long that she's afraid if she gets off the hamster wheel like they'll go back to talking about Michael Strahan. So she's actually just going to be doing this till like the day she dies.

That's awful. Yeah. Her publicists though are making bank. Yeah. That's true. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Already? Already.

It's the final story. It's a pleasure, yeah. That felt good. Yeah, what's the final story? It's some historic space news because the SpaceX's inspiration for all civilian orbital mission has landed safely off the coast of Florida everyone's smiling happy 200 million raised for St. Jude's oh it's historic fabulous I'm sorry St. Jude's is a fabulous organization they are their commercials always make me cry but I've heard so many wonderful things about St. Jude's like justice for St. Jude's and SpaceX's inspiration for is providing justice and funding for St. Jude's that's so great great. Like, that $200 million is going to make such a difference.

Yeah. And four private citizens went to space safely, came home, like, lived to tell the tale. And this could, you know, pioneer private space travel, as we discussed last week. But I'm just, I'm happy that everyone's home safely. Maybe it does influence, you know, my decision a little bit. Do you think in, like, 100 years, like, this is going to be in a textbook? I always think about that. Like when historic shit happens. It depends what textbook, you know, if it's the general history of the world. Like US history. Um, I feel like it may be in like a really dense one. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. If it's very general, no. it's not Neil Armstrong on the moon right like what do you think is something that has happened this year that like will be oh my god where do I begin oh obviously like besides COVID like Megxit would be in a textbook you think not in our textbook not in our textbook no I mean a British royal history one they probably got a footnote oh by the way that's the other thing about Downton Abbey I'm so sorry i need to bring it up and i'm sorry this is not going to spoil anything but in the time period that we're i'm currently watching it's a spanish flu and by the way the show was made long before covid and honestly watching it in a covid world was so eerie like they were talking about the flu and like the symptoms and the contagiousness.

And I swear to God, they could have been talking about COVID. It was so creepy. Like how, you know, this one guy, you know, we have to be aware of him. He has got,

you know, not strong lungs. Like it was just so weird. And then like they bounce back like a couple of years later. And it just like gave me hope. Like I feel like a lot of times, and the media is responsible for making us feel this way. Like we're never going to get out of this.

And like the world is over as we know it and honestly like just seeing the crown not the crown Downton Abbey like you know get through it really gave me hope yeah no when you watch like a lot of period pieces there's so much plague there's so many pandemics no but like if you watch the news like them fear-mongering us into like never leaving our homes again I'm like oh my god like that is the world like we're never gonna get over this but I'm like, oh my God, like that is the world. Like we're never going to get over this. But the outlook, like when you watch something like Downton, like the outlook is just so different than the one that we have now. Yeah, but also like they did breeze through it in one episode. And like, of course, you know, getting through a pandemic

does take longer than one episode. But I don't know. It was just like a totally, it was so crazy how they were referring to this disease. And it was literally COVID. Yeah. I mean, I guess COVID is a flu. So it's like they're similar right yeah so that's that on that best high stories you definitely needed to know them

congrats to all of the new astronauts who've landed so happy for you guys how exciting let's dive into the tv recap segment so much to discuss which is uh let's get our potomac one out of the way because honestly nothing happened and it was filled with so much mindless personal news of people I don't care about, Robin and her warehouse, Giselle and her kids getting their permits. You guys, I just, right through it. No, I did, like, you know,

I skipped through the commercial break, and then I saw it's like a personal scene from Giselle, so I just like go, one more, and then, I watched like most of it, but I gave it like a little, you know how you, sometimes when I'm watching something really good, I want to get to the right to the beginning where the commercial ends, and the show starts.

That's where I was when Chris showed up at the music video set. I pressed play and I saw that I missed a line, went back to commercials, watched more commercials so that I can make sure I heard the whole thing. So there's really only two things we're talking about. The Chris thing,

but then also I kind of feel like this whole candle thing is actually kind of like might blow up because like I 100% believe that Karen was working on these candles long before Wendy even had the idea. this whole candle thing is actually kind of like might blow up because like I 100% believe that Karen was working on these candles long before Wendy even had the idea and Wendy's a mess like she has what 15 candles Karen they said they're ready for retail like they have labels they have everything and I just feel like Wendy is going to be kerfuffled and like say something to Karen

which is moronic because first of all Grand Tom is a fragrance company like from a fragrance obviously candles is like a logical next step. Of course, she's in the business of scents. It's such a beautiful next step. And I actually felt like Karen wasn't being that rude about it. Like she could have been more shady, but she was like, you know, hers is one wick perfect for a powder room and mine is three wicks for a bigger room. Like I felt like she could have been like ruder,

but I do think Wendy's going to make something about that. And like even just like, I'm sorry, Wendy went from being someone who like I really admired to like I'm sorry her business is a joke like no the way that she like jokes around with Eddie and her stupid presentations like it's stupid she was doing that presentation I was like how many degrees does she have no totally no I'm asking you like four she has four degrees and all of a sudden she's Cameron Westcott trying to sell Sparkle Dog to court no it's literally and like she's just like kowtowing to her husband, like putting together these presentations that have absolutely no fucking data in them.

Like she doesn't know how much her candle costs. Like, I don't know. I'm just like, she went from being someone like who was really accomplished, and she still is, but I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? No, and also why is she playing it this way? Like when they asked her. She's making herself look stupid. In the interview when they're like, how much have you spent so far and she was like i need to add up my excel

spreadsheet i need to add up the comms on my spell spreadsheet which is like i understand what you mean but like can you give us a rough like the answer to that is not like i need to add up my columns right it's just like how much have you spent no it's so a thousand dollars right i'm like 15 000 like i it was just it's not based on like what she said it sounded like receipts for like things that she bought at the store to make a candle did she make the candles herself i feel $15,000? Like, it was just... Based on what she said, it sounded like receipts for, like, things that she bought at the store to make a candle. Wait, did she make the candles herself? I feel like she spent, like, $100.

Yeah, me too. Like, on supplies. And anyway, it's just like, give a number. I don't know why she's... Doing this. Doing it in this way. It's so counter to how she presented herself in the past. Right, which is what Giselle was saying. Right.

No, but Giselle hasn't even seen this yet. No, totally. And Giselle was saying um right no but Giselle hasn't even seen this yet no totally and Giselle's talking about physical but I'm really talking about like you went from being someone who almost was like so condescending with her career to like starting from scratch no Wendy's was the only personal scene that I watch and she should have wished that I didn't 100 because I've really been enjoying her this season and now I'm so confused I also did watch a bit of Giselle teaching her daughter how to drive just because I do feel like personally invested in someone's journey to driving. And I always, you know, I want to see other drivers, other aspiring drivers

succeed. And maybe I could learn a thing or two. But Giselle's Gucci Fiat is something worth discussing. You said it's Jamal's car I remember didn't she say like when she pulled up in that Fiat like last season and Candice was like what is that car she's like oh it's Jamal's when he's in town something like that but I can't imagine Jamal driving that car no she's always driving it and it never really dawned on me until I saw the Gucci seatbelts that this is the car that she drives and I actually did a little bit of research because I just assumed like she took it to you know the body shop and said like make it until I saw the Gucci seatbelts, that this is the car that she drives. And I actually did a little bit of research because I just assumed like she took it to,

you know, the body shop and said like- Make it Gucci. Make it Gucci. But no, there is a Gucci Fiat model. They did a collaboration. Yeah. And that is a real car. It's atrocious.

It's literally, first of all, I just think Fiats are the ugliest cars. Like, I'm sorry. I just don't understand the tiny car extravaganza. Have you watched The Italian Job? No. You'll have more appreciation. Okay, but then the seatbelts and that stripe around the car,

that happens to be my least favorite Gucci print, that green and red stripe. I just think it's heinous. Oh, I don't mind it. It's even uglier in a car. No, it's crazy. So many people, even you go to like um Salt Lake City and like Jen Chaz like labels labels labels jewelry labels labels labels like nobody has the label on their

car no it's it's ostentatious on another level last time was the first time that it dawned on me what we were seeing and I was really just like I've noticed it before and I did think to myself she definitely had those seatbelts put in because I was like I never noticed the seatbelts I did I I only noticed the stripe around the car but like I never thought about it until you like you texted me about it last night and then you found the link for the car I said we need to talk about should we get one we need to talk about Giselle's Gucci Fiat and you said it's a conversation worth having it's the craziest fucking car it's insanity um and then like the big moment was this event now i have a few things to say uh mia like asking questions to candace's mom like i kind of would have done the same and candace's mom is like honestly like

i don't even like candace but for her own mom like on tv she does not stop like she was starting conversations with everyone yeah but who was it who went over to candace was it robin who was like mia wendy so fucking loosery of wendy i'm sorry so wrong so here's the thing i don't think mia should have been i mean it's not really polite to be asking those questions especially when we're on set for this thing but you know what i'm glad she did we're watching a show someone's got to do it and i am curious if he's on salary. And I also, and I'm sure,

I hadn't thought about it before, but it's clear that all the women were thinking about it. So she's asking what everyone's thinking. And that's fine. Respect. And I also understand why Wendy is like, this is so inappropriate.

Like, why Candace's thing? Why are we talking about this? But for Wendy to go and tell Candace and to ruin her. When Candace has already, like, stressed the fuck out. Stressed the fuck out. The fact that Candace didn't shed a tear the whole eveningirable um newfound respect the fact that she could even like hug and

jump on her husband after the end of the shoot like just seeing him walking out in those striped pants i was like this i like hate him no but she does not pay her husband right that's what they never really said but i'm guessing no he just like if she wins he wins you know well you get what you pay for right and they should the fact that they had to use like Karen's car Karen's car and like everyone's cars was like embarrassing and also like they're I'm so confused by their situation so apparent right but also at the same time when they were waiting for the cars it was like a graffitied out car they were waiting for the cars and I was like all these women just pulled up in stunning cars.

Like, when are you going to realize you just use those cars? Just use them, yeah. Karen drives a Maserati. Yeah, I'm glad that they put that together. But I don't understand their situation. So he doesn't work at the restaurant anymore. No. So that's why he's working for Candace.

And now we're going to put all of our eggs in Candace's basket. But he's also doing like at-home virtual cooking classes. Oh, I thought he was taking a cooking class. And I'm like. No, I think he's giving them. No? Okay. Yeah, yeah.

That makes sense. A hundred percent. And I think he like is doing private cooking for other people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. That makes more sense. But still, you've got to get your ducks in order. It was just.

And I have to be honest. Like I do hate Giselle. But she did have like one really redeeming moment. Where like Wendy's all, you know, proclaimed that Mia's talking to Candace's mom so you know Wendy runs over to Robin and Giselle was like can you believe that Mia just asked Candace's mom if you know Chris is being paid and just I was like well is he like we're curious like what is the setup I thought the same thing well I mean Robin was just like so in the background

the whole episode like I don't even I don't claim Robin like I just I I hate her I really fucking hate her um and Karen remains like supreme she's a queen I absolutely fucking love everything she does I would watch literally like a home scene of her clipping her toenails like I just love her yeah and that's that on that that's that on that the music video like I guess it turned out cute in the end the auto body shop episode segment looked cool yeah it did but like just the whole scene waiting for the sunset was like tragic and then like she had this like love interest it was turned and but they were only like hugging and Christmas watching and like it just it smelled to me like justice for Monique that's that is what it smelled like I can confirm and Ashley like yes oh Ashley didn't have to sit through that torture there wasn't even a chair they were standing in the parking lot for hours sitting in their cars yeah torture

torch justice for ashley a hundred percent so that was and and we got some entertainment value and candace got her music video so like i don't even feel bad like laughing it's just like my my opinions on everyone is changing so much like now this week I hate Wendy and I like kind of like Candace yeah no Candace has grown on me whereas last week I really did like Wendy I was like proud of her for standing up like Wendy and Giselle yeah but that's also what I mean makes a good franchise it's like your feelings about people should constantly be in flux when you're so certain this one's the villain and that one's like the best person then you're waiting for that person to go but it's like it's good when you're like okay I agree with this it's always good to have like a favorite like you can do no wrong but like I agree

with this person about these things I disagree about other things it just makes the show more interesting that's true and I have to say I'm incredibly excited for next week where it appears like Giselle's home is the subject of some ridicule as it should be like having guests over and there's like a tractor digging up dirt in your front yard yeah no next week does look pretty good we always say that and Karen got vaccinated so that's all that matters right also one other thing that I was gonna say I forget it was a pretty good episode it was filled with a lot of like boring oh I was gonna say Mia is two different people she's the Mia that we see on the show and then she's a me and her confessionals yeah she's like shady and funny and her confession I would say where's that girl and she's like so confident like and strong and then in the show she's spineless like who are her friends even spineless giving Bronwyn season one

energy yeah I'm just like so confused by her I love confessional Mia I completely agree I don't know Mia on the show she's just like a thirsty for everyone to like her which is just like so confused by her. I love confessional Mia. I completely agree actually. I don't know Mia on the show. She's just like thirsty for everyone to like her, which is just like a nice personality trait in real life, but not on a real reality show. Yeah, you have to, you know, If you stand for nothing. You fall for everything.

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Like I just, I could watch, it's the actual like total opposite of Potomac. I could watch the personal scenes forever. Like I really feel like these women are just so interesting. And I was actually getting so angry at last night's episode. I'm sorry, Lisa Barlow is such a bad fucking friend.

I cannot get over it. And I was also getting frustrated because as much as I love Heather, like she's so desperate it's like it's unbecoming of her like yeah she's this confident queen I feel like why everyone loves her is like she's so sure of herself she takes no bullshit but when it comes to Jen Shaw she's a loser like yeah it's so upsetting I think she's about to have a big fall from grace me too because now even in real life now we know that like Lisa Barlow even comes

to terms with the fact that she can't be friends with Jen Shah. And she's completely not talking to Jen Shah. Whereas Heather and her are better friends than ever. She needs to be there for Jen while she's going through all this shit. Yeah. And Heather said on Watch What Happens Live, which I didn't understand at the time. But then I watched it further, where she always knew Jen's business was on Savory. But she didn't know it was illegal.

So I do think this whole time, she that Jen was um getting people to buy into like some sort of fake scam and also selling their information once they bought in and I think Heather knew that that was what her business was did not know that that was a crime so that's why she feels a need to stand with her because she's like there's no new information I'm sorry there's literally no excuse to stand with Jen Shaw no there's none whatsoever and just in the first two episodes I'm already feeling like Heather is sort of slipping it's giving me Leah vibes where it's like last season you're just hero to zero and now it's like with each episode I'm just like I agree with you less and less like and she really like in that conversation that the two of them had at

that glacier was like all she's asking is that Jen doesn't lie to her about like getting hacked or say or like the screenshots are photoshopped Jen doesn't lie to her about like getting hacked or say or let the screenshots are photoshopped she could still say horrible things about me on social media but as long as she owns up to it right like you said all these horrible things you don't need to explain yourself or apologize for them I just need you to not say them anymore and and not act as if they're photoshopped it was the most pathetic conversation fucking low and Whitney would have been vomiting because Whitney was actually giving Heather good advice Whitney knew exactly what was going to go on Whitney knew Heather was going to walk in there and just be like under Jen's spell and

be like obsessed and desperate to be her friend. And Whitney was like, at least try and give her a hard time. And she didn't. And Whitney's going to watch that scene. That was Heather trying to give her a hard time. The fact that she like, you know, waited two beats before she accepted Jen back into her life. And the fact that Jen like makes everything that she's like treated differently in the

group when it's like you are given such a pass that's exactly actually what Heather said yes that is what Heather said but it's like for your temper you everyone walks on eggshells around you because you have such a crazy temper right you go so crazy with people and like you really don't apologize and you just like continue to do it again and then you're upset when you feel alienated from the group but it's like why would this group want to hang out with you more of that no totally it's delusion and it's it's such narcissism like not being able to see anything other than like the way you feel when it's like you don't even acknowledge the fact that like what she's doing to meredith and brooks and you know how like i'm not even a fan of brooks but like what she's doing is so evil to someone's kid

and she keeps comparing like, he said something about my vagina. He's a child, first of all, so like, you don't get to go head tit for toe with him, like tit for tat with him

at all. And second, okay, you made your point. You were annoyed that he said something about your vagina and you made your point,

but like, you don't stop. And now we're bordering on homophobic slurs. Right, and also, it looks like next week she says that she doesn't

run her Twitter account so she has one of her interns or whatever who's liking tweets and retweeting stuff and and whatnot but like the directive comes from Jen whoever Jen's leaving with they don't just go off book it starts at the top it's so stupid like what a lame excuse no it's such a cowardice like no one believes that be like but I will say one nice thing um Jen looks so sickening I was at igloo act oh not even in the igloo I also I also

thought when she was at home calling Heather she just looked gorgeous what was she wearing I don't know but it was like her glam and her face were like just snatched I don't know if she had any work done but like her hair looked amazing I actually thought and yes her fur outfit at the glacier was so cute that's when I touched she's best dressed I'm going to her estate sale if she gets convicted and I'm getting that hat and coat. And the coat. Yeah, no, by the way, that's actually a great fucking call. We're gonna go to Utah. Okay, the other thing was actually, weirdly enough,

I know Mary's like so not in the storyline, but that scene where she was remodeling her home was so funny. Like when she's talking about how her cousin, who's the worst contractor in the world, like if you want something done, don't go to him. Like so funny.

And then commenting on her green carpet and her ugly sconces. Like we love a queen who can poke fun at herself. Yeah. It was so refreshing. And Mary also looks different. Mary, like, looks, her face looks like maybe she got some filler. She looked great.

Yeah. I mean it in a positive way. But the shows are becoming, not so much Salt Lake City, but Potomac for sure, where it's like 45% of the episode is personal scenes. And then we get the women together for the last 15%. And it's like, what happened to lunches? happened to elegance no and you know what they keep doing like flashbacks to lunches that we didn't see I want more breakout lunches and that's why the group trips are so great because like there's no 24 hours of group scenes I agree like no even last

week when we had four women at a lunch like perfect doesn't always need to be the whole group sometimes two sometimes three mix it up interesting things get shared in those lunches I completely agree I won't fast forward through a lunch never you know so that's my request this too much and maybe it's like a covid symptom but like it's like everybody has their own personal crap that they're promoting and we really don't care we really don't care or they're explaining to their husbands what happened what we already saw right right right We have to hear regurgitated. I'm good. No.

And then the group gets together. In the words of my favorite TikTok sound, we really don't give a shit. It's not a major holiday, okay? Like, it's enough. It's not a major holiday. I know you don't know, but it's the best TikTok sound. This girl's like, it's St. Patrick's Day. We really don't give a shit.

It's not a major holiday. It's literally the best TikTok sound. But you wouldn't know because you refuse to conform no i wouldn't know because you only send me bad tiktoks i just feel like it's not my responsibility to like cater to you then don't send me any but you only send me bad ones you don't send me cool trendy like anything if you don't say like this is what everyone's doing how funny is that whatever um all in all salt lake city was pretty good and Meredith is a queen she was on Watched Happens Live with Candace and Andy and like the thing that went viral from the episode is Andy asked her like did you call the feds and I think she said this is a joke but she was like and

everyone's been asking her that like I saw she did press for the show Entertainment Tonight she said of course not but Andy said did you contact the feds? And Meredith said, well, I warned you guys not to mess with my family. But I do think she was kidding. Ooh. I don't think that she did. Me neither. Also, you're saying she has said that she didn't.

Multiple times. And I do believe she was joking. Yeah. But I'm sorry. I fucking love Queen Meredith. And I've heard people say, like, you know, Meredith is getting big head because, like, now everyone's obsessed with her. And I'm sorry'm sorry like she's entitled to the big head and we love her and you're completely right Heather Gay is having a Leah McSweeney moment yeah because

I'm starting to hate Heather and for a while I thought there was no one in the world I would want to hang out with more I don't think there was ever a housewife who had a better seat first season than Leah McSweeney and a worse second season. Well, Heather Gay's about to give Leah a run for her money. That's what I'm thinking. So that is our show. That was a TV recap. And I do believe that's all she wrote. That's all she wrote. I didn't watch anything else. I finished Lula Roe. Oh, yeah. What did you think? My thoughts. You guys couldn't handle my thoughts. No, you couldn't. I think you should say them. I'll think about it. I just want you to know that it's probably my hottest take ever.

No, and you know what? With MLMs, people do not fuck around. If you even want to say one thing in defense of the company, you don't support other women. So I just want to say before Jackie says, if she says these are Jackie's thoughts, not mine. I just want to say I FaceTimed you and told support other women. So I just want to say before Jackie says, if she says these are Jackie's thoughts, not mine. I just want to say like, I FaceTimed you and told you my thoughts.

No, I don't disagree with your thoughts because I do feel like the problem with MLMs is like there's no personal accountability. Yeah. It's just like the company made me do this, but you also showed up and did all that. Right. And also like you were saying,

so many of these companies are like, a really big issue is how much inventory you have to buy at the outset you can't get into it without spending five thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars and it's like well then don't get into it like it's not like you sign something and then you're forced and then you find out you have to spend all this money it's like in order to get into it you have to spend all this money so like that's the time to say no no I completely agree with you and like that and there is no personal accountability especially with like I feel like that's. And there is no personal accountability, especially with like,

I feel like in some of the testimonials we watched on the documentary, like some of the women like really, you know, they kind of destroyed their own lives with getting carried away with stuff. And like, my question is like when, if you took out a credit card to buy that $5,000 inventory,

like that one woman who got divorced and everything. She was so sad. She was so sad. And it really felt like she, it was so hard on herself because of sad. And it really felt like she, it was so hard on herself because of it. And so I'm not talking about her, but like if you took,

but she took out a credit card and then she started making bank from LuLaRoe. Bought herself two cars. Was the first thing she did not pay off those debts? I sure hope so. I don't know. It sounded like no. Yeah, she didn't say, so I have to assume. And then like she lost her cars

and she lost her house because like she had all these debts, but't say, so I have to assume. And then, like, she lost her cars and she lost her house because, like, she had all these debts. But she was making so much money. Right. No, I don't know. Like, and you shouldn't take out a credit card ever. You shouldn't, you know, spend money that you don't have. Especially to buy inventory to join an MLM.

Like, no. But if you do and you start making tens of thousands of dollars a month, you should pay that off. You know, I think your sentiment that I really agreed with at the end of the day is like, of course, MLMs are bad and their pyramid schemes are illegal for a reason. But at the end of the day, like. It wasn't this thing where people, you know, were forced into saying selling Lula, like

out of their own free will, people decided to spend the money, join. And for a while it was really good. And then it wasn't. And I'm not talking about like, of course, when they started selling faulty stuff and not refunding people. I'm not talking about that. There were some issues that I'm like,

the defective, the smelly, the this, the that, that you can't send back. No, that is bad business practice, not defending it. And they should be sued for that. And they were. And people hopefully got their money. Right. And they should have sued for that. And they were. And people hopefully got their money. Right. And they should have been refunding that from the outset.

From the beginning. Yes. Because that's really fucking disgusting. But when we talk about like the culture around LuLaRoe and how like all these, there's so people who sell LuLaRoe and all these, you know, former LuLaRoe girls like, you're crazy. You're an occult. Like, and this might be a very hot take, but I think you've said this before. Just because you make something into a cult doesn't make it a cult.

Right. Just because you got sucked into something, like nobody was forcing you to do anything. Like you made it your entire life and now you're embarrassed. And so you want to turn around and take a shit on the whole thing and call it, you know, these crazy extreme terms doesn't make it those crazy extreme terms. Yeah. So that was like the one thing I didn't like about the documentary was like, I don't know how to say it.

It's like, I don't really feel like for a while, Lula Roe was a bad thing. No, they were, they were mishandled of course, because these two people, Mark and Deanne don't know how to run a business,

let alone a billion dollar business. And there were also, there was those product issues that we've discussed. There were definitely ethical things like the retire, which we discussed retiring husbands and like, yeah, the sort of home woman, like, yeah, I give you everything to your husband. Right. But like, these are grown women, as they said so many times on the show, college educated, you know, like they have families like there it's, and they, they enter into something and you should be able to parse out, you know know this piece I like this piece

I don't yeah so I just don't think it's fair to say that like because you got carried away and you're in this situation like and you lost yourself in something yeah like I don't know I just didn't agree and also that it's MLMs in general because MLMs are legal and a lot of people really enjoy I mean I mean every single there's so there's millions of people involved in MLMs and like they're entering on their own free will like so there's obviously some merit to them especially if you like the product now you that you everyone keeps saying the issue is you shouldn't get paid for you shouldn't have to pay to get started and you shouldn't have to buy the product if you want to sell it and you shouldn't have to um you really can't be making money based on

how many people you bring into the company. That's what I was going to say, the second part. But having to buy the product in order to sell it, like, yeah. And you know what? If you want, the barrier to entry is kind of high and that should actually push people away from doing it, you know? So the crazier it is, like the more you'd be like, why the fuck would I do that? So if you want to, if you you really want to do it, fine. No, the second piece is that you make money based on other people's purchases. Because there's a difference between making money

for recruiting someone to just bringing them in. Because when you work at a big corporation and you refer someone for a job, you get a big fat referral bonus. Is that a pyramid scheme? That's actually a very interesting point. So if you bring someone in to the MLM, they start selling, you should get a one-time, if that's how the business wants to, you get a one-time referral bonus.

That's a normal business practice. You shouldn't be making money off of what those people have spent. That's unethical. You're right. Right. So, but like, it does seem like there are ways to have an, like, there's a reason why. There should be a way to have an ethical MLM. That's successful, that like, yes, the people who were early days, first employees at Google make way more. No, they're retired.

They own islands in the south of France. Then the, you know, the 8,000th employee, then the 10,000th employee. No, I agree. And honestly, like, of course, there are like toxic things that go on in mlms but i just think like the documentary was just taking major what's the phrase when you take not advantage but like thank you but like when you like say something that's like liberties yes oh my god you're a queen like i just think they were taking liberties in like the blame like of course the the company was faulty and but i think that like if you got to like such a bad

place like it's not mark and dm's and not everything can be mark and dm's fault where's the personal accountability yes and also if we are grown educated women who at our own volition entered into this. Like we are not robots. If there is something more nefarious about MLMs than what I'm understanding, I just watched a whole documentary that attempted to explain it to me. So why didn't it come through?

That's on the documentary. If there's like more, no, but, and I'm sure people will message me, but no, but like LuLaRue was doing this. And like, then why wasn't that in the four part documentary that I fucking sat through on Amazon Prime, a company with very questionable business practices towards their lower-level employees?

That's true. Sus. So that's Jackie's hot take on MLMs. Honestly, don't add us. Like, just let it go, okay? Unless you agree with us. That's our show, everyone. Hope you have an amazing day.

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