The Toast - S4 Ep174: See A Lizard, Send A Lizard: Monday, October 4th, 2021

Episode Date: October 4, 2021

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Welcome back to the Morning Toast. and be on your way to a little more ease. Welcome back to the morning toast. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, to the morning toast. I mean, we were only missing for one day. Feels like an eternity. It does feel like an eternity. It's been so long since I saw you.

How was your trip? Thank you for asking. I mean, I couldn't start on any other foot it's the k-sized elephant in the room my trip was incredible like a teeny tiny elephant it was so meaningful like it really was true downtime quality time with k flew in thursday excuse meed till Sunday. And it was just KKK, KKK, spending the entire weekend with my gorgeous, beautiful, precious angel niece, Kayla. She's gotten so big since we've last seen her. Like, it's disgusting.

It's actually offensive how, like, the nerve she has to grow without us. Yeah. And it was amazing, but it was also, like, really sad. Like, the whole time there was this, like, least for me over the weekend knowing like I'm gonna have to say goodbye to Olivia and to you know in 24 hours and 36 hours so that was really hard it was really I'm not gonna lie like it wasn't all sunshine in Florida like it was there were some clouds cover me in sunshine it was cloudy like for sure damn but you did it I did it we had an amazing time Liv's house looks so good she of course said you know when the time is right she's here for a

home tour on the patreon you guys knew that though she wanted me to reiterate to everyone thank you miss you thank you all for all the wonderful messages you've been sending her helpful tips on you know how to stay cool in Florida how to get lizards out of your house okay we ordered Benihana and I opened the door and literally the biggest lizard ran through the door and I went screaming through the house. Like it's just Florida tings. Florida tings. But I actually have a soft spot in my heart for lizards.

Because your sister is one? Because I believe that Margot Ashtray is a lizard reincarnated. And so when I see a lizard, I send a lizard. Yeah. And it makes me feel like Margot's with me wherever I am. So if you look at it that way, how fun Margo joined the weekend. No, I don't look at it that way. I don't look at it that way at all.

It was fucking traumatizing. But, you know, I swam. I got so unbelievably sunburned and I only laid out for one day, which is just fabulous. Did you wear sunscreen? No, but it was one day in Florida. Like I'm not at the equator. I'm in Florida. It was late September, early October.

Right. Still summer tings. equator. I'm in Florida. It was late September, early October. Right. Still summer tings. Fall. I guess. I'm like my chest is bright fucking red. That's exciting. Yeah, because I'm going on a major trip this week. And I was like didn't want to be pale.

And I hate getting a spray tan before a trip because then I can't swim. Oh, I love getting a spray tan before a trip. Then I can't really be myself, you know. Oh, yeah. You know, it limits your mobility. It does. Well, you can swim, just not in a chlorine pool. So you just have to make sure everything's, you know, salt water. Oh, me showing up to someone's house. Is this a chlorine based pool? You just got to ask the hard questions. Also, you don't want to get in a chlorine pool

because it'll chip your nail polish too. Then you can't get a massage. Like it really limits the things you can do on a vacation. You can't, yeah, you can't do those things like day one, two, or maybe three. But then after that, you can do those things. So I guess now would be a good time to tell you guys. That we are off. Okay so here's the schedule. Shows Monday Tuesday. And they're going to be amazing. Amazing shows. We're in one now and I think it's going really well. I think so too. And I also need to share the content I consume this weekend. Me too. Because I listen to so many podcasts because we were driving so much. Like I listened to so much Joe Rogan

and I have so many thoughts. I listened to Amanda Knox on Joe Rogan. You know Amanda Knox. I didn't know he was, wait, wait. I didn't know she's doing podcasts now. Not only is she doing Joe Rogan, she has her own podcast, she explained. And it sounds like really premium.

So I'm not going to lie. I'm not the type of person who's into like murders. i don't really some people like spend all their time thinking about who killed john manet and like i don't even know who's suspicious in the case um so did amanda knox do it no no okay well i'm you know everybody has their opinions but like when you're listening to this episode it's like there's no did she didn't she it's like she was completely wrongfully convicted and now she really spends her life dedicated to like helping those who are wrongfully convicted. Like the Innocence Project and stuff like that. So it's not so much like a murder mystery.

It's more so like justice needs to be served podcast. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So interesting. But anyways, back to the schedule. Monday, Tuesday, we're here and we're amazing. And we're amazing for you. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we are off because Claudia is going on a vacation.

And you know what? She deserves it because she's really been like picking up pregnancy slack wow thank you she deserves a vacation and I'm really excited for you to take that break me too I just absolutely love traveling with Brian like it's gonna I mean Ben's coming too and I'm excited of course it's been triple tings later triple tings but like the first two days I'm like spending with Brian and we're just like gonna have the best time even though there's severe weather storms like where we're going. But it'll be an adventure. Then Monday we are off because it's the holiday. And Tuesday we will be podcasting together.

Not in studio. No. But we will have a podcast episode. And then, I didn't even tell you this, Wednesday, special project, big announcement. I think it might behoove you guys to become Patreon members on Wednesday. That's all I'll say. But it actually behoove you guys to become Patreon members on Wednesday. That's all I'll say.

But it'd actually behoove you to become Patreon members sooner because we will have content there to get you through the week where we are off. So we're back on podcast Tuesday, back in studio Wednesday. Yeah. So I feel really good about it. And you know what? I could use the extra Zs. No, I know.

And to be honest, I really took this trip because I knew you were pregnant and I knew you could use some time off. I didn't want you to feel guilty for asking like, you know, I'm not feeling great. Like, can I take a day off? This way, I did it for you. Thank you so much. So I look like the lazy one when it's actually you, you know. Except you're like airing me out right here.

It's completely me. I took the trip because I'm so fucking excited to get out of town. I too consumed a lot of content this weekend. I watched SNL, the premiere. I watched Squid Games. Have you heard about Squid Games? Heard about it. I feel like Zach would like it.

You might like it. I mean, Olivia watched it and then I finished it on the plane and it was good. Okay. The end was so bad that I feel like I wasted my time but I was really enjoying it

up until then. And like, just a different kind of show. I feel like I watch the same iteration of every show. Like, everything I watch is the same.

Yeah. So it was nice to feel something different. Yeah, that is nice. And of course, I watched Moana and I watched Shrek.

You're not hanging with Kay if you're not watching Moana. No, we watched Moana so many times and then I was like, Olivia, please put on something else. No, and those songs start to live in your head Renfri and

it's not even how far I'll go. It's like the one the opening song. What can I say except you're welcome. And then I was like please please put on something else. We watched Shrek 2 because Olivia is not even Michaela doesn't even like it., Olivia's obsessed with that scene at the end, I need a hero, and I'm not gonna lie, it was pretty fire, so it was a real medley of content, we'll dive into it in the TV recap, and I did watch Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and Potomac, which I know you didn't, and normally I would let you slide, but like, we, I need to tell you what happened, like, both episodes were fabulous. No, I was reading last night, because we are recording our new episode of the redheads today the book we read is a slow fire burning by Paula Hawkins she's the

same author who wrote girl on the train you ever see that movie Emily Blunt oh yeah I didn't see the movie but I read the book this is our first thriller crazy on the train it was my choice and so I needed to like just power read all night and that left no time for watching tv I'm sorry but you know my redhead duties I will not forsake them. You know how important this passion is to me. How was your weekend? I heard you had a fall, fall fiesta, an autumnal outage. It was full of fall.

I went to Vermont with my friends and brew. Did you fall into fall? I fell hard. I fell hard. Is the baby okay? Everything was okay. After falling so hard was falling so hard okay yeah no because all the leaves caught me um it was really like I think so I think next weekend fall is really so short it's crazy because also like the leaves are changing they're on their way to death yeah they're like duty brown yeah no so like the prime leaves it's really only two three weeks so I think next weekend is probably perfect fall leaves.

But like they were a change. And so we had some green. We had some orange, red, yellow. So it was nice. That's the best. We did get to see the leaves changing. And on the drive up, there was some leaves changing. And on the drive back, they had changed so much in the two days we were gone.

Shocking. That's how crazy. That's how fast it happens. Wow. Yes. You got to keep your eyes open. So Brew had never really experienced faultings because Brew came into our lives in late October.

So he just had an amazing weekend, as did I. It was so nice to be with friends, be outside, get some fresh air, sit around the fireplace. We made a chili, and by we, you know, it was me. I'm just going to let everyone know. Head chef. Head chef on the chili. Everyone, like, did their part for other things,

but I was on chili patrol. and there was not a bite left not a good feeling i've never experienced such a good feeling everyone was talking about how like the heat was perfect i found it a little spicy i was worried about my heartburn but like thank god it wasn't that bad um and it was just chili season is here you guys guys. I had to I ordered meat because I brought the meat with me so that I could eat meat all weekend. And now I have like meat at home. And so I'll be chilified for the next few months. And you found a recipe that works for you. I did.

I use half baked harvests, white bean, turkey chili, which was so good. I've made it twice now. So easy. But I think, you know you know I'm gonna look for like a beef I have ground beef now in my freezer so can you just do the same recipe and swap the turkey for beef yeah but I'm extremely I follow the recipes to a tee that's how I know they'll come out good so I don't start out living yeah and that's the kind of cook I am can I totally switch gears really quickly sure um not that your chili isn't

isn't so interesting and it is number one topic of the day no it is but you know what was the number one topic of the weekend if in like the digital influencer space and I just want to talk about it because the influencer you know champagne and chanel yeah she's a toaster and so I started following her because she was listening to the toast and I'm like oh she's fabulous like let's see what she got going on she got married okay I saw something about because she was listening to the shows. And I'm like, oh, she's fabulous. Like, let's see what she got going on. She got married. Okay, I saw something about this. It was literally gorgeous. Like, I feel like this many people haven't followed a wedding, like, literally since your wedding.

Oh, my God, I'm on my way. Jackie, it was so stunning. I don't know if her stories are still up because it was on Saturday. No, but maybe she has, like, a carousel or something. And you know what? I feel like I loved the way that, she obviously wasn't running her Instagram for the day. Maybe, like, an assistant was. I feel like I loved the way that I don't,

she obviously wasn't running her Instagram for the day. Maybe like an assistant was, I loved the way she just like seamlessly was keeping us all updated in real time from the rehearsal dinner to the, uh, the morning of giving everyone getting their makeup done, the ceremony. Like we saw it all in real time and there were so many other influencers there.

So there was so much premium content. I think she got married in Austin, Texas. Yes. I believe that she did. And it was, she looked gorgeous. Like you'd love to see a toaster thriving.

Oh wow, so beautiful. Her story, she has a highlight, 10, 2, 21. Oh yeah, so wait till you get to the actual party. Like the whole tent was made out of lights. That's the ceremony. Stunning. And then this outdoor like clear tent that was like just literally like a snow globe,

like lit up with like twinkle lights. It was just gorgeous. Oh my God, That's amazing. Okay. I look forward to consuming this later. Like, if you're looking for something to do and you're bored, like, check out this wedding, Champagne and Chanel, and she's a toaster. And it was just, like, gorgeous.

That's so exciting. I can't remember the last time I was, like, living vicariously through someone's event. Same. She's just, like, this gorgeous girl with this gorgeous look. And she's a toaster. She's hysterical. Everything was soaring. Amazing taste. Beautiful spark yeah it's

so hard to find people like that these days no it is but when you find them you got to keep them yeah um so yeah that was part of the content that I consumed but I'm really um happy to be back I missed you I missed you too you know what else I consumed Taylor missed you oh don't I can't even talk about it I just can't like I just have move on. Um what else I consumed before I left for my trip on Thursday night. I watched What to Expect When You're Expecting. Oh wow. And I've seen it before. Yeah. But watching it pregnant I was just like so hyper focused. Which one do you think you are? So I'm not anyone in particular and I do think that even though Elizabeth Banks is meant to be like the mess like she still is quite put together right she doesn't smelly farts like yeah no but I'm the like I know I will be the Elizabeth

Banks I think there's tougher like she still only had like a belly you know right what about the arms right right everything else so it was interesting I really didn't feel like I was any of them but I was really enjoying it. It made me emotional at the end, you know, when they all get their babies. So I really, really enjoyed it. If you're pregnant, I would recommend watching it because it just gets you excited and just in your feels. Okay, good. So I feel like I'm all caught up.

Pretty much it was Kaila, Kaila, Kaila, a little bit of Kaila, and then at the end I saw some Kaila. But did you get any kaylor i did you know what and i changed her diaper like she was making the biggest duties i feel like you know she's eating good in florida she's exercising she like literally when she was living in new york she never left her apartment she had a blister on her big toe because she's just like constantly doing the work she's doing the most i bought her her first bike i like wanted to make you know be like a fun auntie yeah the auntie who spoils her. So I got an amazing bike that will last her until she's five years old.

And you have to change it every year. Right now, she's obviously not using the pedals. So it has something for her to lay her feet on. And Olivia pushes her. So it's like a stroller. But then it evolves into a real bike when you're five. That's so exciting. Yeah.

And she was just such a good fucking girl everywhere she went. Queen shit. Yeah. Queen shit. OK. I need to. I don't want to get bogged down. No. yeah and she was just such a good fucking girl everywhere she went queen shit yeah queen shit okay I need to I don't want to get bogged down you know so without further ado it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast that's true for sure um but I don't know if you can smell my breath from here but it's so delightfully delicious thanks to my bruce the best electric toothbrush on the market and today's sponsor if you are looking to switch over to an electric toothbrush but you're a little trepidatious because some of them can cost over 200 which is absolutely insane check out the bruch it is in my

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right one so I feel like this is layered as so many things are most things are first is that this is coming off the heels of Cynthia Bailey's and a departure and I feel like when Cynthia left I was like it is time you know she has been know, boring us to tears for the last like two, three seasons. And everything is about like her boyfriend. Like it's just not interesting. And she really doesn't get like deep in it anymore. So for me, that was kind of like a natural thing, you know, with Housewives, we shed and we grow. But with Portia, this to me signals This to me signals not good for, I worry now, like based on what I know, that Real Housewives of Atlanta might fall into the same kind of situation that Real Housewives of Orange County has found itself in, that Real Housewives of New York has found itself in. You know, you have so many of the same women for so many long, you're one of the OG franchises and it just gets tired and I really felt like this last season even with all the drama on the bachelorette party bolo

I still felt like it was so boring yeah so I don't know I'm worried I am I would be lying if I said I wasn't oh then also with Portia there's a lot of speculation that she's actually getting her own show oh that's interesting Andy commented like it's just a pause like she does have this very interesting life you know she stole that man's that woman's fiance and now they're married they like got married in Vegas he's like super super rich she's like the happiest she's ever been I do think we could get a Portia spinoff okay interesting theory because other people were saying like she probably doesn't want to talk about her relationship on the show at this point and maybe like you know she's the happiest she's ever been she just has like too much to lose like bow out now instead of having like Kenya bring up your man all the time and starting these rumors

I know but you know Portia's like really never been one to back down or like no but like sometimes in life like when it's just you and you're defending yourself and you can take anything but like then when you have like people behind you that you love that you want to protect like it just changes the game and sometimes you have to say like game over for me you and and it's not even like you're backing down you're you're growing out of it yeah that's true so I think her priorities have changed I mean if she's getting another show then you know this is a moot conversation it's like who would turn that down ever um but if she's not getting another show it just might signal that like she's found something that's worth more to

her than all of the opportunities from the show yeah well hopefully that would be great but i do think the spin-off is a possibility like a tin slice right even though like that didn't work out it's a bad example you know real houses of atlanta has had the most spin-offs i think obviously don't be tardy and then they do so many specials. Like when Nene got remarried to Greg, they did a special. Candy, when she got married, got a special. They actually have a lot of success with their like spinoff type of shows. Obviously, Don't Be Tardy would be the most successful with eight seasons.

But I don't know. I feel like this could be good if this is what's happening with Portia. Yeah. Yeah. But the show will absolutely suffer without her. Whether you're a Porsche lover or Porsche hater like you cannot deny Porsche has a broken back from carrying the show for like five seasons she's everything of the sort and now she'll be missed desperately

well the show must go on always curious to see what they do next but you guys like it's a really um it's a really rough like dark time as a housewives fan I was actually just talking about it with my friends I completely agree I was talking about it with Rebecca who just watches housewives for fun like for me this is like job stuff so like it's and we're like analyzing deep diving socio yeah okay you know what I was trying to say like we're like researchers yeah no like this is like I don't just get to like decide I'm oh I'm not gonna watch I'll maybe I'll put it off I'll batch those episodes next week right we just watch every night because we're gonna recap it on the show so

like talking to someone who watches for pleasure though now it's no longer really full of pleasure for her is really interesting and she was having the same thoughts that I was having of just like this ain't it and it's a waste of time it's a waste of brain cells um maybe I think for me it's like I'm changing but also the show is it's not just like I'm outgrowing Housewives it's like Housewives is trash like if it was good no Housewives is just in this like weird spot where like I think that what we're seeing with like Salt Lake City and Potomac like these early seasons with girls who are still hungry for it and who still make good TV, I don't feel that way about these newer franchises, but I of course feel that way about Atlanta, OC, New York, New Jersey. I feel like for sure, Housewives took off in such an unbelievable way, was so successful.

They had this perfect formula, but so much other reality tv has come and progressed and changed the game and like housewives is just still doing the same thing they've been doing since 2001 like yeah I mean I personally like Potomac and Salt Lake City but Rebecca was saying like she feels this way about Salt Lake City too and I was like I think the vibe the aesthetics of Salt Lake City the like you know the snow like that just helps it's something means something to me so that helps but like and Potomac is better than some of the other franchises but even still it's like a lot it's just like it's so formulaic it's 45 minutes of personal scenes that nobody asked for and then 15 minutes we have a group dinner with the to be continued like I'm good yes I agree I do think

that their structure like when you watch Selling Sunset or like Bling Empire like you see like how the game has changed like the the way in which we're making reality tv has changed so much over the last 10 years and Housewives has not yeah and they kind of like invented this space and I do feel like they're getting left behind like there's no no I don't think so every I think we're like we're on the we're pioneers in this thinking yes yes yes like they're going to be left behind. I just, I don't know how people who don't have to watch it are watching it. Yeah. Well, I mean, when you think, when you look at ratings from what they used to be and like

what they are now, it's crazy. But that's also just like the decline of cable television. Yeah. But I agree. There's something, and I just, and this is kind of my, very sadly, like my qualm, is that the right word? Mm-hmm. With Andy. Like and this is kind of my very sadly like my qualm is that the right word with Andy like these this is his show this is his production and like I feel like with in the last like year or two he just like doesn't care about like when he comes to watch like he gives it nothing like and he would say this is not his show this is not his production

whenever someone comes to him about like bring back this person or why was this person fired he will say like he's not the executive producer. He's a talent. He maintains that he is not in charge of casting, but, like, he is the creative director of these shows. Like, if he, if, I don't think he thinks that it's as good now as it used to be. Right, no, but I think even if you said he's the creative director, like, I think he washes his hands of all of this. Like, he says over and over, like, this is not his show. is not my plate that's what he says yes that he is he created all of them yes he did but like now who he is now like we can't even say like in the beginning yes it was

him but like now he's just he's a housewife literally talent by NBC yeah well I don't know who's in charge but like things need to be shaken up majorly like we can't keep doing the same thing if you're watching the first episode of Orange County it's very similar to the most recent one like just in terms of the structure so I agree with you and I actually feel that way about all Bravo shows because every single Bravo show is structured that way yeah and when there's just so much reality TV out there and you're, like, comparing it, it's not as good. Yeah.

So that's where I'm at. I mean, it is what it is. There's crazier things going on in the world than the decline of Housewives. No, but I do think that Salt Lake City, Potomac, and Beverly Hills, like, are still three very good reality shows. Like, I stand by that. Like, I watched two hours of Housewives last night,

and I honestly wasn't even really on my phone. They were, like, really good episodes. I love all the Salt Lake City women, and, like, I love and hate all the Potomac women. Like, I feel like... You're invested. Yeah. Okay, that's good.

Our next story. Taylor Swift makes a shocking reveal about her new Red album. Taylor Swift's newest announcement will leave fans tickled pink the singer took to twitter thursday to announce her own rendition of red will be released a week early and naturally swifties everywhere were sent into a frenzy now the re-release will be out november 12th and the release will also include the four disc final according to her tweet so

this is very on taylor swift of course Because everything is planned to a T Ten years in advance Right And she Like she gave us a date She doesn't like Either push the date She doesn't renege on dates

She doesn't renege on dates And the dates are Carefully selected From all the dates In the calendar That could add up to 13 In some way So here's what it is

Adele Have you been seeing Adele has been putting up Billboards all over the country With just the number 30 Which is gonna be Her next album Okay Adele is coming The up billboards all over the country with just the number 30, which is going to be her next album. Okay. Adele is coming.

The album is called number 30. That's all we have to live for. And there is a lot of speculation that it's coming out the weekend that Taylor was planning on releasing Red. And you know, Taylor is like very strict about getting number one albums and just like numbers, numbers, numbers. And I don't think like the two biggest female artists like we're wanting to compete with each other.

I guess, you know, Adele was immovable. Therefore, Taylor was movable. You really think that's what it is? Yes. I mean, we'll see. When we find out when 30, Adele's new album comes out, when we find that out, if it's the date that Red was supposed to come out on, then we will know that that is why she changed the date initially.

But if Adele hadn't announced her album date yet... Whether you're not getting pulled over. There's the longest siren that won't end. I was trying to scream over it. It won't end. Just let it pass. Yeah, this too shall pass. I hope everyone's okay.

Okay. Just wait. It's right behind us. No, but it's fine. It's not a serious conversation that needs complete silence. I mean, speak for yourself. Okay. Like offending me right to my face can we mute our

mics it's so fucking annoying okay that was the longest siren of all time it was stuck behind our building it yeah traffic traffic traffic okay so let's get back to the topic Taylor Swift Adele say Adele's releasing 30 like she's looking at the calendar who's releasing what when like she chose to release the same day as Taylor's Red but I just don't think she cares like you know yeah she's Adele this is for Adele it's like this is her highly highly highly anticipated album there's no way it doesn't go number one divorce like all of this for Taylor Swift she's releasing the album she's already released she's singing on songs and I's singing on songs.

And I'm sure it's great. No slight. But like, obviously, it doesn't matter. But Taylor has a lot of pride in these records because she's going to own them and she wants them to go number one like they did the first time. Like for her, it's like this whole meaningful thing

where Adele is just like her big ass comeback and like everyone is going to be like living for it. And who the fuck would want to compete with that? Yeah. I mean, I just can't believe that that's really we'll see how things go also like she could have released it she should have released it in october it's a fall album i mean the fact that she literally announced it in july for november is just a wasteland aside from kelly clarkson's christmas album like drop it in october give the people what they want it's fucking twisted completely

agree like i don't know I just didn't anticipate her dragging out the re-records for so long because she announced like months ago that it would be the November release of Red and I'm like so nothing before that like so if it's like six months lead up for six albums it's gonna take three years right like please no like yeah let's yeah i totally agree but there is like a lot of speculation about her and the jonas brothers have you been seeing this i saw it from the cinch and i'm sorry but the things that she's shared are just not enough for me okay so really did you see nick jonas's tiktok which one so So he like put up a picture of like a Dumois screenshot, which by the way was fake because Dumois was like,

I never posted this. Saying like Jonas Brothers ex Taylor Swift pizza emoji. And he was like, well, what is this? What is this? And then Joe has been posting a lot of the pizza emoji. The pizza emoji is referenced on Taylor's mood board. It's referenced in the 22 music video. So a lot of people think that there's going to be

some sort of Jonas Brothers involvement in 22. The song off of Red. I don't know about you. Okay. But I'm feeling 22. I just really. Which I wouldn't understand. But I'm, if that's, that would just be crazy.

That would be like 2013 all over again. I guess. It's just not that deep for me. But I'm. Oh, well. But I'm just, I'm happy that it's deeper. Some not that deep for me but I'm oh well but I'm just I'm happy that it's deep some of us care yeah no some care immensely and I think that there's definitely Jonas Brothers clap coming this way I do think that the reason why she moved the album is because of Adele but we'll see okay and I'm actually what I've taken away from the story is I'm hella excited for Adele's album it's just gonna be it be, it's going to be glorious. Yeah, no, it really is. And that's exciting. So I got two albums. Yes. Yes. You got two. Exciting. Thank you for that. Are you ready for our next story?

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Kelly Clarkson's estranged husband, Brandon Blackstock, has to hand over the keys to their Montana ranch. A judge declared that the property belongs to the 39-year-old talk show host, despite the fact that he has been living there since they split in June 2020. He originally requested that the ranch was marital property and should be shared equally between the two, but the judge disagreed since it was Clarkson who paid the 10.4 million dollars for the property and you know what they say actually Queen Kelly said it best what doesn't kill you makes you stronger stronger just me myself and I what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. That's right.

This little shit. Every time I get an update on Kelly Clarkson's divorce, I want to stick my elbow deeper into his throat. Like, what a little leech. Get out of her home. Get out of her everything. Yeah, no, beyond. And this judge is everything.

This judge is like, nope, nope, nope nope nope nope nope no this judge is absolutely everything of the sort like obviously is on our side you know like understands that kelly clarkson is a queen being a kelly clarkson fan since season one of american idol saw everything that she went through every piece by piece that it took to get her to where she is and she sees this man coming for the thing she's put her blood sweat and tears too and this judge is like no no and like honestly we keep talking about how kelly cl Clarkson is like having this moment like it's been it started like a year ago and now she has the voice she's got the Kelly Clarkson show which is such a success like every celebrity's been going on it she's so like this like warm figure

that everyone loves and for him to like be trying to take a piece of that away during he probably knows how hard she's worked and how many times she's like failed and not succeeded and and now it's like all paying off and and for everything's coming up Kelly yeah and not Brandon for someone you used to like love and who knows you so well to be like doing this during I just it's unforgivable and I fucking hate this man and if I ever see him in the streets like it's on Brandon blackstock it's fucking on yeah he's really like one of the most hated men in america right now literally him and ryan laundry like i fucking hate this man he's such a i don't know the word is chaza yeah but so like a mooch leech leech yeah yeah i hate him a pig he is a pig and and justice for this judge like thank you so much for you know serving justice

even though it is your job yes but sometimes justice is not served no and like even though it is their job divorce proceedings can go on for so long and they're so tangled and you can even have a prenup and all these documents like and it just doesn't hold up so the fact that like everything is being held up that's because queen kelly has her shit together yeah she has the right lawyers she has the right attorney she has the right attorney she has the right managers she has it all together he was her manager no i mean like financial managers yeah like attorneys and stuff like she has got it all but he probably still you know what's so disgusting about all this like he keeps wanting from her like taking her house the insane alimony but he also still probably

makes money off of her like on deals when he was her manager. Like you commissioned that until. Perhaps. I wouldn't be surprised if he was like. Yeah, I don't know. Still cashing in deals that he was negotiating on her behalf that are still going on. Like he might have been her manager

when she signed the Kelly Clarkson show. Yeah. So he's still like in perpetuity, might make 10% off of that until she renegotiates her contract oh i can't even think about that i know it'd make me sick but you know what like who's kelly gonna date like let's play that game oh i think kelly's so focused on herself right now and her kids and her career and like i feel like kelly's like really one of the rare people who's so fulfilled by her own everything of the sortness yeah but if we had we had to, like, who would we want her with?

Businessman Beau. Yeah, I kind of like the country businessman Beau. Like, she wasn't totally wrong. No, actually, not even Brandon Blackstock is technically a businessman Beau. No, no, I'm saying she wasn't totally wrong in, like, her idea of, like, who she should marry. Because, like, that was kind of cute.

Like, Reba's stepson, you know, behind the cameras, but, like, businessman, you know, moving things, chicken making deals. Yeah, no, because he gets, you get too caught up in everything and then you have too much invested in her success needs to be someone with a job that like has nothing to do with the industry. Like, like a construction worker, like just a, a, a nice hardworking family oriented man. A hundred percent. That's what's what i want to maybe one with kids of his own like a blended family then they could watch blended then they could watch blend in they'll have it all figured out it's a beautiful movie if you haven't seen blended it's stunning you haven't

lived are you ready for our next story yeah it's really crazy casting shake up for the show billions i don't care no i think you might care even though you don't watch it's a guy like the main guy damian lewis is leaving billions which is really crazy because the show is about him. Is his character going to die or someone's just going to start playing him like nothing's changed? Unclear. No, no, no. I don't think they'll pull like a dynasty with a new character playing him. I kind of like that.

Like, why shake up the whole show because one person decided to leave? Yeah, I don't know what they're going to do. Like on Downton Abbey. They should have done that. About Matthew? No, that makes it a soap no no because you can have creativity with the storyline this does signal the end of the show I really like the show Billions season six premieres in January and Damian Lewis will not be a part of it he is signed off on billions after a five season run as the alpha male hedge fund billionaire bobby axelrod so this show is over um i don't know i wouldn't be so sure

it's a showtime show right yeah i don't know when what's her face left uh shameless it got so much better fiona really yeah i mean no but like that's a hot take i think because she was the fucking worst but some people liked her um there were so many they spent the tell me if billions is the same actually they spent the whole like first whatever seven seasons like introducing you to so many characters on shameless that you ended up loving and you were like why are we focused on Fiona she fucking sucks like okay you loved the other do they do that you love the other characters no so okay right as it stands like billions like this cat and mouse game between Damian Lewis and Paul Giamatti okay um if anybody should go it should be Paul Giamatti like I hate his character so fucking much but I

think Paul Giamatti is one of the best actors no he's too good of an actor and he was in Downton Abbey he's too good of an actor because I fucking hate him he's always playing a villain but you know what in the like last few seasons it's kind of tired they're either like going for each other trying to destroy each other's lives or they're teaming up to like take someone else down but the this variety article says that production is underway with Corey Stoll's character Mike Prince I believe that's the person who played Peter Russo in House of Cards you ever see it no you haven't seen House of Cards no No, I don't support Kevin Spacey. I mean, I feel that. I watched it before I knew, and then I never finished it.

Yes, I am correct about that. Peter Russo. Justice for him, by the way. That's really important to remember. By the way, you know what's so crazy? I was just doing like a trivia thing. Do you know what the first ever original show on Netflix was? House of Cards?

Yeah, is that crazy? It is it is when you think about how far they've come yes that is crazy so anyways in the new season Mike Prince who's played by Corey Stoll will take center stage alongside Chuck Rhodes so I guess it'll be like and in the show he really yeah he's been like a billionaire coming up who's really giving Damian Lewis a run for his money so maybe he successfully ran for his money and now there's a new there's a new head honcho in town and maybe like all you want to see from Damian Lewis is like he literally has everything yet he continues to like push the limit and push like the lines of legality just like retire be satiated be satiated so I started

watching Billions on Delta and they had the first five episodes and it was so fucking good and then this was when I was on tour. So like every time I would get on the plane, I would watch another episode. And then they like never added more episodes. So I was like, I'm done. That's how I started watching too. And then I continued watching. It's honestly really good.

And that's going to be crazy. Delta just constantly like churning out premium content. Like the only reason I ever saw Three Identical Strangers was because Delta had it. You're lying. I swear. Oh my God. I took the time to watch was because Delta had it. You're lying. I swear. Oh my God. I took the time to watch that. No, it's literally like whoever's in charge of choosing the content for the Delta portal,

Delta Studio, I believe it's called, like kudos to you. I one time watched like the best fucking Sam Smith concert of my life on the plane. It was like this random like thing he filmed and they had like BBC. Like it was so fucking good. I was like feeling inspired crying on the plane. Oh, how beautiful. I was crying on the plane yesterday of course you were because i was i was crying in the uber okay i'll tell you i was crying in the uber because i missed kaylor so much

and then like my uber driver was really chatty so i was like i had to stop crying like so i could like talk would that make you cry more yeah and then when i got on the plane like it was all really just like hitting me and i was putting on my liked songs and And there was, like, so many Andy Grammer songs. And I was like, fuck. And it was just, it was over for me. Being with the mask, like, no one could really see. Sometimes you have to let it out. Otherwise, it's just, if you try and stop, it's like, damn.

No, I know. It was so upsetting. Damn. I'm sorry. At least you have a nice trip to look forward to. That's true. You know. But I planned so poorly.

And I should have just, like, stayed in Florida to, like, then go to the Caribbean. That's true. You know. But I planned so poorly. And I should have just like stayed in Florida to like then go to the Caribbean. Like it was so stupid. But that's just me. Yeah. Okay. Ready for our fifth and final story? Are you? Oh.

You don't look ready. I know. I'm not. Cause. It's the final story. It's the final story. Do do do do. Do do do. Do do do do do do do. Do do do do do do do. Thank you for that.

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Thank you, Claudia. Our fifth and final story is some crazy media news that if you're not tuned into, you really should because it's some of the craziest stuff I've heard. CMN? Crazy media news. We don't get it a lot. No. But then you hear a story like this and you're like, oh oh we should hear about this more because it makes a lot of sense so aussie media is not shutting down

after all ceo carlos watson says what is aussie media aussie media is like one of those just like content sites it's like i mean not that i have ever gone to aussie media unless they were like running like a dot com yeah unless they were running like ads in the background and trying to get like cheap clicks for their website using shady third party advertisers. OK. OZY. OZY. So it's a website, I believe, that's like a content farm. You know, there are so many of these websites. Some of them are more popular than others. Yeah. a modern media company they have podcasts news they've gotten many awards okay yeah so last week an article came out about Aussie media that pretty much like just showed it for the house of cards that it is basically it started with um they were going to be acquired or yeah acquired or bought or whatever by Goldman Sachs. And they were, Goldman Sachs was like going through their.

Financials. Financials and also just like who they are, what they are, what they have, how many listeners, subscribers, everything, readers. And on the call was meant to be a YouTube, a person high up at YouTube who was going to like attest to the fact that their YouTube is really fucking popping. Oh, okay. So that they could show goldman sachs yeah like our even youtube says like our youtube is really impressive yeah and on this call the person from youtube like at the last minute wants it to be a voice call not as like a zoom not a zoom with cameras and towards the end of the call

they're like their voice is sort of cutting out it as if they're it's using like a voice changer and it turns out that someone within the Aussie media company posed as a YouTube rep a YouTube rep and in order to get on the call and like sell through Aussie to Goldman Sachs like fraud um and Goldman Sachs like figured it out and even the email they set up to like loop in the YouTube guide was like a fake email so it started this whole like window into like Aussie media is lying about like their numbers they're this and like even with their YouTube channel yes I wanted to look at their YouTube channel they have a few videos that have over a million views but like majority of them don't the likes likes to comments ratio is bad.

Have they taken down their YouTube channel? Because I can't find it. And the only thing coming up is everyone talking about the downfall of Aussie media. That's so funny. Inside Aussie media's downfall. Carlos Watson live. So all the telltale signs of like fuckery. Which you know what?

And I feel like there are so many media companies and just like publishers publishers in general that like their numbers their numbers and it's like so he says they have millions of subscribers for their newsletter and all these things and like you can pay to get email to purchase emails to purchase emails I get so much crapola because someone sold my information I'm that doesn't make me a reader of Ozzy. So much crapola. So it's really this interesting case study. Yes, it is. Of fucking fraudulence and inflated numbers. And like, and yes, you know, if you're going to get bought by a big company, like you're

showing some vanity metrics. Of course you want to show your best. You're showing impressions over views. Like, you know, we know the tricks. Yeah. But like this was like completely fabricated no and that's like the weird thing right now about like living in the digital age is there's so many companies like media companies and just like digitally based companies who are so

fraudulent and like they're valued at like a hundred million dollars and they literally like okay and I don't know how or why but like their instagrams and their tiktoks and their youtubes have millions of subscribers and you go to a video and there's 6,000 views. Like it's so fraudulent. And it's so crazy to me that like these huge financial institutions like Goldman Sachs, these big like banks and whatever investment, like hedge funds are like spending all this money and like, just get your intern to look at their Instagram and they'll let you know if this is a fraudulent company or not. Not even that. Has your intern ever heard of this company? I never heard of Aussie Media.

Because in the article about Aussie Media, someone was like saying, like, they'll tell you how they're everywhere and they're doing everything. But I've actually never encountered Aussie Media in a natural way. No, this is the first I'm hearing of Aussie. I believe they have something called Aussie Fest, which is a real thing. And that's like semi popular. But how much were they going to be acquired for I don't know I bet it was like literally a billion dollars and no one's ever heard of this company that's what's so fraudulent about like the digital age and I think like all

these banks that are like filled with old people just like want to be current they're like oh you have a million followers on TikTok let me buy that from you yeah and that just ain't how it works Goldman yeah and ain't how it works Mr. Sachs it's really true even like so I guess this Carlos Watson he was like gonna do a talk show on the Aussie YouTube channel um and I remember seeing ads for it around the city and there was like quotes on the buses that were like the biggest show in late night and I was like wow I'm really I'm really off. Because I've never seen this before. By the way what I've learned is that.

Pretty much every billboard you see for a TV show. Is going to call itself. Like the number one show in late night. And that's because in one particular demographic. Yes last week tonight with John Oliver. Is number one amongst you know. 27 to 29 year old men. So everyone is allowed to call themselves. Legally the number one show you know 27 to 29 year old men so everyone is allowed to call

themselves legally the number one show because in once with people who can't find the remote you are number one like no but like or even I think that's even giving them too much credit like in one category like if I sit here and say the morning toast is the number one show it is well that's yeah in our hearts because it is that's like not fair no I know what you're saying what's like a show no say use the toast example I know what you're saying. What's like a show? No, use the Toast example. I know what you're saying. If I say the morning toast is the number one show, we could go over on ads and say the morning toast is the number one show.

And then somewhere on the bottom, it's like, because someone said that once. Right. But yes, they do. But I was just like, wow. Even though factually, you look on the charts, we're like number 11, not number one. Right. So pretty good. But you know what I'm saying.

Yes. Yes. But no, it's like, or if that one time we went to number one which by the way we've only made it to number two because of felonious florida yes yes oh my god fucking felonious when we like were like first launching our show we were at number two in the podcast store which is unheard of and there was this other show that launched at the same time felon and by the way have you ever heard of felonious florida ever after that no no but it was just like having a moment. And we could not beat them.

Yeah, fucking Felonious Florida. Fucking Felonious Florida. Anyways, so Carlos Watson, I guess he had said that they were going to like, you know, after this charade was called for what it was, he said they were going to close. But now on NBC, on the Today Show, he said we're open for business. This is our Lazarus moment, if you will. This is so embarrassing.

Like. This is so embarrassing. And isn't it illegal though? People comparing it's illegal to like the youtube stuff oh yes like youtube's now launching an investigation because like their security was breached there's someone pretending to be a high level youtube rep but also um like flubbing your numbers like this when you're like trying to get right i remember watching the we work documentary and like that was what made the whole thing illegal yes the lying about the numbers yes so people are like comparing this to theranos which is on trial right now right like there's an element of illegality here correct yeah but i also think like this is just one of many i think so too you know when you hear about all these media companies that get bought

for billions of dollars and then like it's just so fraudulent they have like no fucking influence period they have no audience they're literally like they're only paying customers are people who have literally died like yeah it's it's just like them having so like I think with Aussie media what happened is they raised so much money like under this like a fundraising for this idea of Aussie media so they had a lot of money to spend and they bought and they bought like I don't want to say they bought like followers and stuff but you can buy someone's subscriber list that's like really a kosher way of buying followers legal um and so it's all just like this house of cards based on all this money that they raised yet nobody gave a shit about Aussie right at the end of the day like you can raise

all the money you want you can buy all the subscribers you want but if you don't have an audience you don't have an audience and no amount of money can fix that.

Yeah. We have an audience. True that. We do. Goldman Sachs. We've raised no money. Call us. Are you looking for

a new investment? Call us. We are very much available and open to the idea of having a new studio at the Goldman Sachs HQ. Imagine. We have like different financial analysts on.

And we'd interview them like, are you single? No, and every time a celebrity was single, we'd say, businessman Bo, get over here. We will have a conveyor belt. We've got a life line. Okay, so that is a crazy story. And those were our stories. Those were our stories. It feels like you needed to know them.

Now for a little TV recap. Before the Housewives, I wanted to talk to you about SNL because I watched the season premiere with Casey Musgraves as a performer and Owen Wilson as the opener. Both of his brothers were there. I didn't know there was a third one.

Luke was like smiling. It was so cute, like very cute. And Luke was actually in- A sketch. A sketch, not a live one, but they did this like Star Trek Battle of the Egos where all these billionaires are going to space to like you know whose dick is bigger and Bezos was played by Owen Wilson someone from SNL played um Richard Branson he

looked so much like him that's an easy one to dress up yeah yeah and then um someone played Elon Musk and oh Luke I get them confused was just in there like you know okay doing something okay cool um but I want to talk about the sketches they it was so bad like it was literally I didn't like laugh at all Olivia fell asleep like it was really really bad which is crazy just for a season opener um there's three new people two of them were in a bunch of sketches and I don't remember their names but they were pretty good like they were trying harder than any of the other cast members have tried in years because they were so excited like yeah their first time and they like nailed every single line which

nobody on SNL does it's so frustrating like Luke Wilson wait oh wait oh wait I'm getting that with you Owen like flubbed so many of his lines but you know what I learned that I did not know that I'm not sure if you knew do you know that Owen Wilson the reason why he's like so irrelevant he made so much money he was the voice of Lightning McQueen in Cars Cars 1, 2, and 3. Oh. Like no wonder why he's just like low-key that's what his monologue was about like I've been known to be like low energy and like not care about anything well you made a hundred billion dollars doing Cars I wouldn't care about anything either. Did he? Cars is like one of the biggest franchises and they did a sketch about Lightning McQueen where like Lightning McQueen

becomes this like very non-PC, like racist, like car. And he's like, I'm not doing this. Like I care so much about the legacy of Lightning McQueen. And then he like saw his Disney contract and he was like, I'll do it. But like he kept flubbing the lines. Like the R word was in there like 400 times and he like wouldn't say it.

He just like kept flubbing the lines. It was a really funny concept, but very poorly executed. Oh. It was just, it really was not good good and then like the saving grace was Casey um and I haven't really spoken about it because it really pained like I discovered Casey Musgraves like I will literally we know I will to the death defend like my queen but this era is just not my particular favorite. I'll say that. And I'm struggling.

Like I really am. Like I like the beat but it's just, it's not for me. So with love and respect. What did she perform? Justified, which to me like is the best song on the album

but if it was on Golden Hour it would have been the worst song on the album but if it was on golden hour it would have been the worst out the worst song on the album like that's in my opinion what the level of musicality is is and then it's camera roll which is just not good okay so here's my thing and camera roll is tough for me because it keeps getting stuck in my head um but with so many songs on the album we were listening to on this morning I think my least favorite one is simple times just because the lyrics are very like 12 year old girl like I'm going to the mall with my friends like literally that literal yes I miss seeing my friends and spending time together we would have the best time so like for me what's always set Kacey Musgraves apart is her ability to like

to write lyrics so poetically they fit perfectly in every groove of every melody everything's like a metaphor like yes follow your arrow if she wrote that for star cross it would say yourself literally so i completely agree i think that that like poetic element is just missing and she's being very literal like a song called camera roll is just like so not casey like it should have been called like photographic memory like you know Casey. Like it should have been called like photographic memory. Like you know whatever she would have done. Like yeah I'm just not into this era like at all. The song camera roll which I actually like because it's getting stuck in my head so I don't want to bash it but it's like

chronological order. Like thank you guys. That's how camera roll works. Chronological order. Nothing but torture. That song's actually pretty good. But like there's just, it's just not my favorite. And yeah, I'll just leave it at that. That song is like just an ad for iPhone. Literally.

They should use it. Totally. Like an Apple commercial. Yeah. You click on your albums and you can tune out. No, literally. It's just not for me. Don't sort by the faces.

Is that the lyric? No, but that's what she's saying. Yeah, so. Did you know you could use maps? She didn't save SNL in the way that I thought she was, is what I was going to say. Are you okay? Yeah, it's just really just really funny no it's just not good that's what I've been feeling about the album I've still been listening to it just because um I like an hour I like a work a body of work while

I'm getting ready or something instead of like jumping through all my like songs so I have been experiencing it and there are and I like star crossed the song more than you did um I know people are liking bread winner yeah well it just went like viral on tiktok so people don't even know the song they just know that one part because they're like when you are jamming to the song but you make you know a dollar an hour like he wants a bread winner that song's fine like I don't know I just feel like usually like I cannot be pulled away from a KC album I have to spend hours decoding what she means and I just don't feel that way about this album yeah and I thought she would like save the SNL episode and honestly it was just like the whole thing was

just a waste of time honestly damn okay I'm sorry to hear that but I want to say what Kim is coming this week I know and you know what I'm going to be like without service. Like I'm not going to be able to watch. Like. I don't know how I'm going to stay. Actually I stay up pretty late. I'm so excited for Kim. I said I was so fucking late.

It's so late. It's crazy. But Kim is going to be so incredible. And Halsey's so great. I love her. Sure. Kim. I just.

I'm really. I haven't been this excited since Elon. Elon. Yeah. No. It's really good. I'm so surprised that this, I haven't been this excited since Elon. Elon, yeah, no, it's really good. I'm so surprised that this wasn't the opener. You know? I mean, maybe Kim was busy. You saw that she had dinner with Kanye.

They went on a double date with the Romulases. No, I didn't. Tracy? Tracy and Ron. No, I didn't see. Ron Romulus. That's a tough name. Yeah, they went to Nobu Malibu.

Ron Mulus. And Kanye was there. Oh, of course they did. Yeah. Love to see it. You do love to see it. Love to see parents reconnecting or just co-parenting in a Mules. Oh, of course they did. Yeah. Love to see it. You do love to see it. Love to see parents reconnecting or just co-parenting in a healthy way. Either way, happy for them.

Okay, I want to just really quickly talk to you about Housewives. I don't want to spoil anything for you, but both episodes were so good. Like, Potomac was just twisted. Like, they got to this house and like Robin and Giselle are like, we're not coming. You invited us in a rude way. We're like, okay, bye. I think they thought everyone would be like no please come everyone's like okay like no one cares yeah um the husbands came not everyone uh came some of them are coming later

Michael's not coming at all and Karen's husband is coming a day later so some of the guys were there Mia's husband like it's just a little wild like That's the vibe. Yeah. And, like, I really just want to defend him because, like, everyone's just, like, coming for Mia. But he was acting like an animal. But they just get there and Wendy's, like, feeding everyone shots. So, like, by the time Ashley and Karen show up last, they're, like, all fucking wasted. Like, especially Mia and Wendy. So things obviously get really heated between Wendy I mean between Mia and Candace because she just kept keeps bringing up Mia's mom like they're fighting about nonsense and then

she's like your mom is low budget your mom's ratchet your mom is a broke bitch like yeah and it's just so and they and Wendy has been trying to tell Candace like to stop with the mom stuff because you don't know what she's been through like but Candace won't even listen she just like mom mom mom and you know what like maybe I thought Mia was wrong in the beginning, but now I don't even care. Like it's so wrong. Candace is so below the belt. She makes it so unenjoyable to watch

because you can't even get on her side at all. Because once you start, your mom is a broke bitch. Your mom is low budget. She said it multiple times last night and the episode before. It was just so frustrating. Like so frustrating. She's indefensible.

And yet she gets away with all her terrible behavior and even though i was turned like i was coming to i was making peace with candace um it just brings you back to the monique stuff yeah of course and she and by the way you know you saw the scene where like mia throws lettuce of course yeah who threw the first piece of lettuce candace candace she threw one piece and then mia was like fuck that and threw the whole platter. Good. Because Candace was just like, go back to your pimp, you whore. Like, she was really going so fucking below the belt.

What in the world? And she just like can't get over the fact that like Mia and her husband met at a strip club. And like, I don't know. I, first of all, who fucking cares? Like, to each their own. Two, like Mia's, it's not like Mia was hiding that and like they all found out and they're like, Mia was like, yeah.

And then her husband was like, yeah, Mia still loves to go to the strip clubs we go together like I don't know it's not what I would do but I appreciate the confidence like a hundred percent Candace is just like so jealous like of everyone and everything mental small-minded like I can't believe she gets away with that agreed like she's she's so condescending like it was just a frustrating episode because Candace was acting like an animal of course Robin and Giselle end up coming next week you know like their big protest is over um and things obviously get even more heated but what I did love was that Wendy gave everyone like a list she said Karen and Ashley no Karen and um Osat what's her name Escala Karen and Escala you get to choose rooms first because we were put in the cottage and then ashley you can choose the next room because you know you left your kids at

home and like we're so we're so happy you're here and we just want you to be comfortable and she went down the line and then she was like and candace you can choose last who said this wendy because it's her trip it's her trip and she shoved wendy into the cottage at the last trip and yeah which is weird because wendy and candace are close yeah but so wendy was like fuck that but no they are close and you know what Candace are close. Yeah. But so Wendy was like, fuck that. But no, they are close. And you know what? Their husbands are close too. Like seeing the husbands, how they interact.

Wendy's husband and Chris are really good friends. Interesting. So yeah. I'm glad the husbands are there. That always makes it interesting. Me too. It was a good episode, but Salt Lake City was so good. Like we pick back up at the ice fishing where like they,

Jen basically like is talking to Jen basically, like, is talking to Stuart and she, like, is just going to fake apologize to make it go. And, like, Meredith is, like, not believing it, which is everything in the store, whatever. It was dumb. But then we meet this new woman, Angie. I didn't even know we were getting a new woman. And she meets up with Lisa. And remember that girl, Sarah Jane, who, like, keeps almost becoming a housewife?

Like, she was on last season. She's friends with Lisa. She's blonde. Maybe. So whatever. Like, they just steamrolled over She's friends with Lisa. She's blonde. Maybe. So whatever. Like they just steamrolled over her and right into Angie, who was like this fabulous woman who discovered that she's cousins with Whitney

because they're all related to the pioneers. And Lisa's like so jealous that her friend of like, you know, I think like six or 10 years is becoming friends with Whitney. But like they're cousins and they really like each other. Like what's the problem? So basically Angie's having this party at her house. It's like this fabulous casino-themed fundraiser for an organization called the InCircle.

They, her and her husband, have a son who's transgender. And it's like an organization for, you know, a safe place for, it was really beautiful. Like, the whole thing. And the husband got choked up talking about, like, they left the Mormon church because, like, it's so unwelcoming to their son and it was just like it was actually really beautiful and there was a guy there who donated a million dollars like it was a swanky affair like this woman Angie is bringing us everything she had a costume change her house was beautiful it was gorgeous but what had happened was that she had sat down with Lisa and said that she invited Whitney

and Heather to her gala and then five hours later the caterer for the gala who's really good friends with Lisa, called her and was like, we can't do it anymore. We spoke to Lisa's assistant and we can't do it. That's what they said verbatim. Like Lisa's assistant called us. We cannot do your event anymore. So then Angie goes out to lunch with Whitney and she's like, do you think like she's like sabotaging my event because like I invited you guys? And it does sound really stupid, but like they did write in the email that Lisa's assistant called them and that's why they have to cancel. So everyone's having fun at the party. Jen and Mary are even talking.

Mary's just like so understands Jen for who she is and she's not bothering to get into it. But then Angie pulls Lisa over and it's like, I got this email from the caterer and they said that they spoke to your assistant and then they canceled. Like, what the fuck? And Lisa's just like freaking out, like literally screaming, crying. And then for some reason she brings meredith and jen shaw into it because the point is basically lisa's mad that her friend angie's friends with whitney but what she's doing right now between meredith and jen is the exact same fucking thing right and it's so hypocritical she starts like crying freaking screaming out she's so

wrong she's getting caught in something i don't know what she did with the caterer but she's acting so guilty so then of course whitney's so drunk whitney comes in and just like sits down and lisa's like what are you doing here she's like well and she's my friend i want to make sure she's okay and they just go off she's screaming crying i want john i want john and remember how like meredith was like freaking out rightfully so at the gen shock conversation at ice fishing and lisa would not let her leave like when she was really just clearly wanted to get out of there yeah they wouldn't let lisa leave and it was so everything of the story because she got caught in some lie i'm not sure what it is but she got so caught she was looking so guilty like crying like like a two-year-old like i'm here

like it was so amazing and when he really didn't even say anything she just like sat there and watch but lisa is so triggered by the presence of whitney like it's i don't get that at all when he's so like harmless so and the beef between them doesn't run very deep. It's not that serious. I couldn't even tell you what it is. It's just like personality differences. So they go to lunch next week, as do Jen Shah and Brooks. Because she said to Meredith, I'll apologize to Brooks.

Okay. Yeah, but so then basically what Jen Shah did to Meredith, she also did to Mary. Basically Mary was like like we made up at the reunion and then she posted this really mean meme and they showed the beam and it was like a picture of like I don't know if it was Mary but like a picture of a young girl and her grandfather like and it was like when you order no no it was like just a meme and then next to it was Mary and her husband like basically like you married your grandfather like right after they had made up

so Mary actually didn't really get into it I think that she doesn't want to like keep dragging like she just is like hates Jen but like like is civil with her yeah which is really the smart way to handle someone like Jen especially since Jen will probably be out of the picture soon yeah hopefully so all in all it was a good episode Heather was like so irrelevant um and it's so crazy because like with this Jen Shaw thing, I know I'm going to turn on Heather because like the fact that she's sticking up for Jen Shaw is so losery. And also watching that episode last week where she just like groveled in that

ice cube. Like it was so losery. And I'm like hating Lisa right now, but knowing how she like immediately turns on Jen, like I think I'm going to have a huge. And when I was watching Lisa with these two new girls, Angie and Sarah, like talk about how much they love KFC I'm like I just wish Lisa could be like this all the time like there are qualities of Lisa that I actually really like I agree and

so I'm holding out hope me too but like she needs to get off of Whitney and Heather like it's not a thing no and she needs to get off Jen Shaw and she does yes that too but like it's so mean to Meredith and Meredith was looking oh my god at this event so unbelievably gorgeous like I never saw an outfit so gorgeous in my life wow I'm really excited to watch I think like I'm gonna watch today I was very much looking forward to it I just had my reading priorities that needed to take precedent it was a good episode the solid city was better than Potomac but um and then the other thing I watched is squid game which is this show it's it's a Korean show it's like number one in every country in the world and everyone was talking about it people were like doing the Squid Games challenge on TikTok so I was like let me see I mean let me start it we were so confused

but it's immediately became very good and it is a like a Hunger Games type of show I would say yeah um and it's in Korean but they have like English dubbed over it but then they also have subtitles that don't match the English dubbing and it was very confusing so i ended up watching without subtitles and just listening to the english dubbed over which was fine um and it was good it was really good the ending was so fucking atrocious and i think they're setting us up for a second season which i'm if it had just ended completely and like it was in a mini series i think it would have been great a limited series sorry not a mini series but the ending like really bothered would have been great. A limited series. Sorry, not a mini-series. But the ending really bothered me and I thought the show was good

up until then. There were a lot of really good characters and just something new. I never watch anything new. It was good. I'm happy for you. I think you'd like it. And I know Zach would like it a lot. Oh, I'll tell him. Yeah. So yeah, I weirdly watched a lot of TV this weekend because I was on on Kaylor time.

So many naps. She does love to watch TV when she's allowed. When she's allowed. When she's allowed. Okay well thank you for summing it up for us. It's a pleasure.

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