The Toast - S4 Ep175: Instagram Was Down But Our Spirits Were Not: Tuesday, October 5th, 2021

Episode Date: October 5, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Tuesday. How's everyone doing? I'm doing pretty good considering this is a Tuesday for most of you, but for us it's the last show of the week. So it's pretty exciting to know that Alarm Free Living is coming our way. You're going on vacation, but for me I get to sleep in my own bed alarm free, which is such a treat, you know? Yeah, happy for you. So also which is such a treat, you know? Happy for you. So also today is like a beautiful fall day in New York and I'm just... It's really not. It's so stunning.
Starting point is 00:00:31 It was raining this morning. It's stunning outside. For sure, for sure. It's stunning. There's a chill in the air, you know, that's the kind that we, that sweeps away all the bad smells. By the way, like, okay, so we're on like, what's the word? Like opposite paths.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Like you're being so positive this morning like and that was me like two weeks ago I'm in the worst fucking mood today like I just got my period right before my trip which is just so annoying having the worst cramps the awoke me up a million times in the middle of the night okay can I help you turn it around sure so you got your period right before your trip which is actually great because you drop that bloat like really quickly it's better than getting your period in the middle of the trip and then the first few days you're bloated because then you lose 10 pounds like that because you're about to get your period okay sure like I don't really care about being bloated I'm bloated consistently like I don't
Starting point is 00:01:13 see the difference you really don't like feel a little bit lighter when you when your period drops you want to know a fun fact about me I've never been bloated like in or or I've never been not bloated I don't know people always like I'm so bloated. I'm like, oh really? I'm just fat. Like, I don't know what bloated is. I agree with that. Like, I never say I'm so bloated. Like, unless I literally ate like my body weight in salt, like I can't imagine actually feeling like so bloated. But I do always feel like a little before my period comes.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And then once it comes, I do feel a drain. You don't feel that? No, no. I don't think it would make a difference. That's one thing. Okay, okay. So that one doesn't work for you. So I'm just a drain. No. You don't feel that? No. No. I don't think it would make a difference. That's one thing. Okay. Okay. So that one doesn't work for you. So I'm just like having cramps. Now CEO. Can you just let me complain please? We're gonna turn your frown upside down. Turn it around. Turn it around. Turn it around. Turn it around. Turn it around. Turn the beat around. Turn the beat around.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Love to hear percussion. Yeah. Turn it upside down. You know, this made me feel better. You know, I think the triangle counts as percussion. Literally, of course. Literally. It's a percussion instrument.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Right? So, Theo woke you up throughout the night because he just wanted you to know that he was there. Because he's going to miss you. He wants to spend extra time together. Let tell you i couldn't sleep and i'm like tossing turning tossing turning finally i drift i'm like there i'm like 87 percent like you know about to just yeah what your thoughts start stop making sense and then someone's standing on my back and it's fucking theo and he wanted to get under the covers which is sweet but like you could do it yourself so i let him in and then I was up then I was up talked to Ben watched some TikToks like it was just no going back and then I didn't go to bed till like two oh and then I woke up with my period like I feel as though I'm in time why me I've been I've earned my bad mood
Starting point is 00:02:59 okay fine fine and then you had cramps you said of course did you take my doll I took I took Advil big mistake no I know you like sung the praises of my doll for so long and then like earlier this year I was like all right let me fuck with my doll and to be honest I felt no difference no I think my doll is so great it's so targeted you know to the cramp needs that's what you had said plus it has a little caffeine that's what you had said as well so okay but you know what different strokes for different folks i'm sorry you're feeling this way me too things happen they do we've got an menstruating queen and a pregnant queen this room is just radiating with different hormones yes quite different hormones but back to what i was saying i think it's quite a good day especially considering it's our last show of
Starting point is 00:03:44 the week so we have so much love and energy to give into the show and like yesterday was the most chaotic day on the planet so like I know it was so chaotic we recorded the redheads it was crazy no Instagram was down Facebook was down WhatsApp was down like if you if you live in Israel like that's the only people I know who use WhatsApp and like the morning toast didn't upload the video until much later in the day because i um had to edit something out that i had said it wasn't bad or anything it was just like too personal if you know what i'm saying yeah um and the youtube platform like if you want to take it up with youtube that's on them it took eight hours just to edit out one thing they can get
Starting point is 00:04:18 their processing done faster so that was my fault today i'm gonna try and not say anything stupid over share i mean i've already spoken about my period so I don't know how much more I could share. Right, right. But today we're going to be on time. Yesterday was crazy. We'll talk about the outage. It's obviously a story. It was the biggest story of the day. I want to know how it affected you. I mean, I've never been so unbelievably bored in my whole fucking life. Really? But also like I did a bunch of things yesterday like I had put off doing I don't think I did it consciously like you know Instagram sound let me be productive but I like needed to do something with my hands and I have all these flights I've been needing to book I have so many
Starting point is 00:04:52 weddings coming up all over the country I'm just like such a globe setter and trot hopper and I did a lot of things that I haven't done in a while so maybe that was good but like overall I was just bored to tears I understand and then like I did an Instagram story when we were back I'm like thank god I've been so bored and people are like that's so sad like normalize being obsessed with Instagram fuck all I think being obsessed with Instagram has been normalized I think it's weird that people said that's so sad considering everybody was like posting stuff like that yesterday I just want I don't know what I did with my day yesterday but but I really didn't notice. It's because I was like napping. I was chilling with brew. It was still down. I was like not
Starting point is 00:05:29 pressed about it. And then around like five o'clock when I was like going to the redheads, I was like, oh, that's crazy. It's still, it's down. Like it's been a down day. I didn't really realize. It started being down the second we wrapped the toast. Like I had posted a story that I remember that never went through, but then I got home I was chilling with brew it was down and then by the time I like a few hours later I realized it was still down I was like oh this is a big deal but it really didn't impede my day no it didn't impede my day I was just fucking bored it actually did impede something because we recorded the redheads last night but we weren't able to get questions from the readers so we don't have any redhead questions but we have have lots of DBQs from the readers, the book club guide.
Starting point is 00:06:09 So it's a really great episode. We recapped A Slow Fire Burning by Paula Hawkins. It drops on Thursday. So that's just another day where you don't have to go podcast-less, even though we are 0-0-0. So just really quickly, one more thing I wanted to say about the Facebook and Instagram outage. You'll have the time to talk about it as well. Oh, it's a story? It's a story.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Okay, so you know what? I'll save my hot take. Yeah, because we're going to talk about what happened there, what we know, what we don't know, which is probably everything, and what it means for society. For sure. We also have deer toasters today. Great. Big day here.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And I caught up on Only Murders. I'm caught up except for yesterday's episode oh yesterday yeah they come out Tuesday is today Tuesday yeah oh it just came out at today I have to say like this whole dropping weekly thing is so not conducive for my lifestyle I know like I thought that the show was over and I got down to watch like so many episodes last night and it was like eight o'clock and it was done because episodes are really short. Yep. And there was like only four. Like I thought it was – and it's just getting good.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah, no, it's really good. Yeah, it's really good. So I'm obsessed. And I do think like if you think one of them should win an Emmy or like, you know, it's being acclaimed as like the best show this year. So of course people are going to be nominated. Okay. Because like honestly Steve Martin and Martin Short are competing for the same category.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Who do you think, out of the three of them, should get nominated and who should win? I think they'll all obviously get nominated because if it's the best show and they're the stars, then they made it the best show. Who should win? I don't... I know you don't like him. My least favorite, Martin Short. 100%.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He's giving it all to the show. He was being so funny. I can't believe you don't like him. My least favorite Martin Short. 100%. He's giving it all to the show. He was being so funny. I can't believe you don't like him. Like he is, whoever wrote this character for Salt, so on point from like a retired Broadway, like failed producer. His one-liners, I turned on the subtitles because I felt like I was missing some of his jokes.
Starting point is 00:08:04 He, that character is so funny. I can't believe you don't like him. I don't dislike him anymore. I just like really didn't like how he was like being sneaky and he had mismanaged like his life. And then he was like trying to sell this podcast. But now that everyone's above board and spoiler alert, like between the three of them, there's really no secrets anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I like him more. I agree with that. I just don't like when you're like hiding stuff and you're going to bring the rest of the group down with you. I couldn't him more. I agree with that. I just don't like when you're, like, hiding stuff and you're going to bring the rest of the group down with you. I couldn't agree more. But, you know, there was one low point in the show, and that was when we had to, like, see Selena Gomez's fake mom, like, inspire her, like, with her art.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Like, it was so dark. I'm like, this is, like, this show so far has been A plus, 10 out of 10, elevated, classy. And this was giving me very much like the mom from Wizards of Waverly Place vibes like I was really surprised like that whole scene was like I was watching a different show and then they went back to city and everything was back to normal I actually agree that was the first time where I was like oh Selena Gomez is in this yeah right right right like this is the first time I was like where's my phone you know gotta check what's
Starting point is 00:09:03 going on it was so boring. Yeah. No, but the show itself is really good. And the most recent episode that I watched was from the perspective of Theo, by the way. Yes. Theo, love to see. No, his name is Teddy. His dad's Theo.
Starting point is 00:09:15 No, I think Teddy is short for Theo. No, Teddy is the dad. You know, but they're named after each other. Teddy is the dad. Theo's the son. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And he's deaf. And so the whole episode was from the son. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And he's deaf. And so the whole episode was from his perspective. So there wasn't very much sound. Which was actually really cool. It was really cool. And well done. Did you feel scared watching it? Like the silence was freaking me out.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Maybe because I was home alone and it was dark. But like it wasn't a scary episode per se. I was. No, I think I watched it like at dusk on the couch. Got it. Like the silence was giving me like creepy ass vibes. Interesting. But I thought it was a very unique take to represent someone who's deaf.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah, I could see that episode like being nominated for something. Because I've not seen anything like that. Me neither. And it was just, it's such a good show. Like I was actually so devastated when I ran out of episodes. But I guess there's another one today. And then did Theo feel seen because he's Theo? Because his names yes he did in the book that we just read there's a character Theo you know what the more I ruminate on it the more I regret naming Theo Theo because like
Starting point is 00:10:14 my future son's name should be Theo it's a gorgeous fucking name I think you could still name your kid Theo because it's one thing to name a dog after a person that's a no but it's I think it's nice to name a person after a dog I would actually argue that it's worse no no no but think about little Craig disgusting that's disgusting that's the worst like here's this dog I'm naming it after you no I I think honestly they're both pretty pretty shitty no I don't I think that like upgrading the dog's name to a human like the dog it's only good things for the dog well the good thing is I have my period and I don't have to think about that right now I'm just saying like if you wanted to one day you have my support you're open to it yeah
Starting point is 00:10:54 it's Theo you have to talk to it's a gorgeous name no it's gorgeous and think of the yeah the nicknames you get Theodore you get Theo and you get Teddy you know what my I've had like this renaissance with my kindle like I was on like a six month break and I was just reading so many books and you know if you're pregnant or like thinking about becoming pregnant or like adopting and you're thinking of child names like read books like I found so many random fucking names and I'm like that's pretty I definitely do read like looking for names I haven't seen anything via book but yeah no also when I'm watching um tv like I'm always think like looking at everyone's names now yeah but like honestly I could go through a whole tv show and not know the main
Starting point is 00:11:38 character's names like what the fuck is Martin Schwartz's name that's a really good question and in the book like their first name comes up so many times like you have to name? That's a really good question. And in the book, like their first name comes up so many times, like you have to remember it. That's a really good question. Yeah. I know his name is Brazos, but what's his real name?
Starting point is 00:11:51 Another really good, you're asking all the hard questions. I know Mabel, because that's like an odd name. No, and everyone's like Mabel this, Mabel that, like they're obsessed. Right, Mabel, Mabel, Mabel. Everything's about Mabel.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. So what are the two main characters' names? I don't know. I don't know if we'll ever know. We could look it up, but I'd rather not know. I don't know if we'll ever know. We could look it up, but I'd rather not know. And also like I went through watching all of Squid Games not knowing one person's name because like you're not allowed to say your name in the Squid Game. But then like they shared it at the end. But like I couldn't remember. That sounds kind
Starting point is 00:12:19 of annoying. Yeah. But I just love Only Murders. Like I just I can't really stress enough how I'm like obsessed with the show no I might re-watch it after like so good and I'm sure you'll pick up new things it's really really good and of course it pays respect to podcasts and the art of podcasting and I feel seen I don't know about you a hundred percent and I keep waiting for this one particular scene because they filmed right outside my building. And I was like, what show is Selena Gomez doing with Martin Short? I was so confused because honestly, when you think about it, like without knowing what the show is, like what the fuck? Like it's so random.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And I'm just waiting for them to be shooting outside my building. Oh, that's pretty cool. I haven't seen it yet. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. You know, actually, I watched yesterday's episode, and it was amazing, obviously. No complaints.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Actually, just one. Like, when we were doing our final story, like, you really cannot hear the triangle when we go like this. Like, we need to be like this. Oh, but when we do final story, are you able to hear your ad-libbing at the end? Obviously. Okay, but I think that's because...
Starting point is 00:13:23 They can hear my ad-libbing at the end in China. I think that's because... My voice is too ad-libbing at the end in China. I think that's because... My voice is too loud? No, the triangle is further away. I think it's good the way the triangle is. All the triangle content I've seen has been really premium. Okay. Okay, do you think that without further ado,
Starting point is 00:13:39 we should just jump right in? Oh my God. Head first. I know that you don't know what that hand motion is referencing it's referencing a dive into the water to reference or not reference but there's this woman on tiktok who's a former sex worker and she shares like the craziest fucking stories and she always uses this song feels like i'm going insane yeah it's a thief in the night to come and grab you and she does the same three hand motions but she's telling different crazy like stories that happened to her and she always does that it'll creep up inside you and
Starting point is 00:14:09 consume you so that's what you're doing i can't wait for tiktok to go down never i never that's what we need why jackie you're literally the star of my tiktok follow me at girl with no job it's true it's true like oh i literally do a tiktok in the studio every day now because the only ones that get likes are the ones with Jackie. That's so sweet. Why don't you guys just comment that you hate me? Like, the talkers are so sweet. They're so sweet. No, but I do think that, like, for society and for nature to start healing, we need a day of TikTok to go down just for everyone to see everything else they could be doing with their life. Hard to disagree. And you know what? Let's just leave it at that. Okay. Well, until we talk about the first story in the past five stories, without further ado, here are the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a
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Starting point is 00:16:30 Reports are saying that it was directly correlated to the toast ending, but we can neither confirm nor deny those rumors. Neither confirm nor deny. And I guess Facebook servers and systems are so incestuous that people who work in the Facebook offices couldn't even get into the buildings to fix shit because their key cards weren't working because the whole thing was down. OK, like. This is supposed to be like the most technologically advanced company in the world, not even in the country, like in the world.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And these people can't even get to their desks like, I don't know, fishy. Yeah, no, it was it was definitely wild. I don't know. I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist. I don't know if we'll ever know what happened, but something ain't right. No, I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I have a few things I'd just like to point out as someone who's completely unbiased, third party, with no particular interest in the matter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I don't know if you have no interest in the matter, considering, like, if I do today. You know what I mean. So, first of all, I'm constantly hearing about, like, you know, how Facebook is down. Instagram is down all the time. I never hear that about Twitter or TikTok or Reddit or Pinterest. So why is this company always having issues when they're also technically the most successful in the space? Like they should have the most infrastructure so that things like this don't happen.
Starting point is 00:17:41 So it's like very common for Instagram to be down. I literally go to Twitter. I search is Instagram down and everyone's commiserating on Twitter. So it's like very common for Instagram to be down. I literally go to Twitter, I search is Instagram down and everyone's commiserating on Twitter. Like it happens a lot. Why is that? Nobody else has that problem. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Maybe they have too many users, but also I think, I don't know. I'm not gonna purport to know, but based on what I was seeing yesterday, it's like Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp all use the same server. So it's like dominoes when this shit happens yeah I just don't understand why it does happen so frequently like of course I'm an understanding consumer some a bad day at the office something goes down whatever but this happens like all the time
Starting point is 00:18:20 with Instagram yeah but to be real would you know if Pinterest were down? I definitely would. I'm pinning all the time. Okay I'm just saying so maybe Pinterest goes down maybe Reddit goes down but like you don't know. I really don't feel like they do and I feel like if they did it would be at least like trending on Twitter people would be talking about it like I've literally never seen that. Yeah well I think a lot of times Instagram goes down but then it comes back up in like 30 minutes. Yeah. So this was about at least six hours. And it took all the other, well, I'm sorry, Facebook took all the other apps down with it.
Starting point is 00:18:50 So this was, I think, the largest scale one that we've seen. Yes, I don't think I've ever experienced an Instagram downage that also took Facebook with it. And from what I've seen, they're saying that like they accidentally locked themselves out. Like someone just accidentally sent to the server, like we're out and it took everything they had to go they like lock the keys in the car and they didn't have a spare key that's
Starting point is 00:19:10 what I saw but like anyone getting hacky vibes no and also like you don't have a spare key yeah your Facebook I don't know it just like seems a little hacky oh to me well here's the thing that really bothered me about this whole situation it's kind of like the narrative I was seeing afterwards like making fun of influencers like oh my god like where you're all your influencers freaking out like that they couldn't like sell you lipstick okay like what if I came to your office and snapped your keyboard over my leg like that's your job you would be freaking out that you couldn't do your job to put food on the family for your fucking fit food on the table for your fucking fit food on the table for your fucking family food on the family i would love that food on the table for your family like i just hate this like oh my
Starting point is 00:19:51 god probably influencers like crying thinking they're gonna have to go get a real job like first of all influencing is a real job second of all like i don't know why you refuse to understand that like literally your job being instagram is like not acceptable but like that would literally be like okay you're a dentist and i walk into your dental practice and I remove all the teeth yeah is that funny to you sir doctor it was just really pissing me off like all these memes like making fun like first like well also okay I just also a lot of businesses especially small businesses rely on Facebook and Instagram for sales advertising advertising, promotion. So like they all suffered yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And influencer or creator is just a business on a platform. So like you're really making fun of small businesses. Right. Look in the mirror. Yeah. You're making fun of small businesses. You don't support other women. Or small businesses.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And women. And male influencers too. Sure. It felt very targeted towards women like no it did like the content that I was seeing like oh my god your favorite influence like it was just very it was directed at women I'm telling you like and I just don't like this narrative yeah because like I guess I'm not like a full-time influencer but I had the greatest day yesterday so much peace well we are full-time influencers but our business doesn't revolve around posting on social media. Yeah, no, we're not Instagram influencers.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Right. We're podcast influencers. We're just, but you know what? That's what happens when you're multi-platform. Call me when the podcast app goes down, even though I feel like it's always down. But see, this is actually now, I think, was probably a wake-up call for a lot of influencers
Starting point is 00:21:24 who are very like one platform focused like if your entire business is built off of Facebook or just Instagram um you got to be multi-platform you know we were able to communicate with not to rub it in to communicate with our audiences on different platforms podcasts I was up on TikTok all day even though my audience is not that big you got to have more than one platform because in case that goes down oh for me like I wasn't able to communicate with anyone I would just have to wait till to the next day's episode but like that worked for me yeah but you have like people had heard from us that day yes yeah I agree I don't yes you could say like this should be a wake-up call for people to diversify their portfolios I
Starting point is 00:21:59 don't think that's what it's gonna be no but like if this had happened like five years ago when like my whole business was just like Instagram, I would have been like freaking out. Yeah. Especially if you were supposed to run ads that day. And then it makes you think. Or if you posted an ad
Starting point is 00:22:11 right before the outage, it went down and then like you lost six hours worth of conversions. No, and then it just makes you think like people always say this and it's never going to happen, but like what if Instagram
Starting point is 00:22:23 were to just like poof and disappear one day and your whole business is like, if Instagram were to just like poof and disappear one day and your whole business is like, if Instagram were to disappear like five years ago for me, I would literally have to like go to grad school. Like I would have to find another way of living. And now if Instagram would went down, like I would be bored, but my business would remain somewhat unaffected.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Yeah. Yeah. And so that's the lesson I took away. Yeah. And then if TikTok went down? My soul would leave my body, but my business would be fine. Okay. That's good to hear.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I just really think they should do TikTok next because I did feel like nature was starting to heal yesterday. So why don't you just call up the hackers and let them know? I, you know, maybe they'll be making the rounds. Maybe. You know? Okay. So whose picture did you get stuck on?
Starting point is 00:23:03 Elizabeth Svetsky and wearing multiple breadths and carrying her child. Mine was Kate C. Parker. She doesn't do it. Kate Estelle, Bobby Bones' wife. She did this, like, really sweet. I can literally recite the caption to you, word for word. She did this sweet, like, you know, carousel of photos from her wedding talking about how, like was, she knew like
Starting point is 00:23:25 how a man should treat her because of her dad. And as she got, she's gotten older, she's really come to appreciate that. Like she had such an amazing father in her life. Wow. What a rough caption to get stuck for you yesterday. Literally a 13th year anniversary of my father's death yesterday. Go to Instagram and I'm terrorized by Caitlin's gorgeous photos of her and her happy alive father. Damn. It was tough. Definitely something to think about.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And also it probably made you more present in the day yesterday and like more present in your grief. No, I was majorly in denial yesterday. I didn't think about it. Me too. I just honestly like wasn't in the mood. It'll hit me. I don't feel like just because it's an anniversary of a death or someone's birthday I have to be sad that day you can't what if I'm not schedule grief no I'll get there grief arrives on its own time I was just not in the mood yesterday I'm like Instagram's down and now I have to cry like I'll do it another time I'm going on a plane tomorrow maybe I'll cry tomorrow yeah no
Starting point is 00:24:20 I feel that wholeheartedly I'm so so glad you agree. And so, yeah. And then I didn't realize that the stories at the top of that were there were loaded. Yeah, like you could scroll through stories. There just wasn't new ones. I didn't realize that. I didn't even watch them. I watched a few and then I was like, this is boring. Yeah, no, you had to just go cold turkey.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy. I thought I was also very busy yesterday. Yeah, well, you made yourself useful. Yeah, got it. Because Instagram was down. But I was also very busy yesterday. Yeah, well, you made yourself useful. Yeah, got it. Because Instagram was down. Isn't this nail color, like, so not me? No, it's pretty you.
Starting point is 00:24:50 It's so, like, bridal. Yeah, this nail color is kind of you. Love! Yeah, Dazzle Dry. You love Dazzle Dry. I do. So, this one I got on Thursday. Gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And it's no chemicals. It lasts longer and dries really quickly. Are you allowed to get manicures pregnant? I haven't seen anything to the contrary, but like I said, no chemicals. So yeah, I could just see like someone saying like the chemicals from the polish seeps into your nail buds, into your veins and goes straight to your heart. Yeah, no, I could see. I'm sure someone does say that, but this one's on chemicals. So it's like, are you wearing deodorant while you're pregnant big time organic or regular men's totally men's extra strength extra aluminum there's just some things a woman cannot do i that never even
Starting point is 00:25:35 occurred to me no one told me that i couldn't wear deodorant no i don't think that's a thing but i think a lot of people who are very organic are like very organic i'm not and i'm doing like i feel like I'm actually for going a lot more than maybe I even need to what are you for going I don't know like even like Zofran for example like a lot of people take Zofran in pregnancy and I just feel like I'm pushing through you know that's very brave of you I mean I took a Dramamine for the car ride this weekend and like that felt like a lot to me like the toxicity she OD'd on Dramamine for the car ride this weekend, and, like, that felt like a lot to me. Ooh. Like, the toxicity.
Starting point is 00:26:06 She OD'd on Dramamine. So I really, I feel like, hopefully, I'm doing. You just do what feels right. Yeah. And the cavemen wore nail polish. The cavemen were doing everything, so. No, but the thing is, like, the cavemen didn't use deodorant, didn't have nail polish. Yeah, I get it, because it didn't exist yet.
Starting point is 00:26:21 They didn't have Paris Bids. You know what I'm saying? They used to smoke when they were pregnant. Oh yeah. Oh if you want to go back to like I'm just saying like we're going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:26:29 20th century pregnancies. We're going to be fine. You would hope. But then people also lived until like they were 30 so. In the cavemen. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yeah. Anyways are you ready for our next story? Sure. Rob Kardashian is seen in a rare photo as he enjoys a night out with the family. That just reminded me of something.
Starting point is 00:26:47 So the Kardashian clan united for dinner on Monday and Rob made a rare appearance. On Instagram, Kim shared a photo of her on a date with her favorite couples, including Kourtney and Travis and Khloe and Rob. LOL. Okay, you just reminded me of something. Okay. We have one more picture to post in the feed. Should we take a selfie?
Starting point is 00:27:03 No. Okay, I'll just post something. Post, post um maybe something will come up okay okay but like we have to do it before I know I know I fucked up because yesterday Instagram was down so I didn't get to post till six then I posted at nine and then I was like tired yeah no I understand it's not your fault that Instagram was down but our feed's not gonna suffer because of it no and Instagram doesn't care that our like feed is ruined you know instagram doesn't care about your feelings not at all nor your feed um what were we saying oh rob he's looking so good and cute first of all loved the kravis moment on kim's instagram like that was just kind of crazy no they got grid prominence they weren't buried
Starting point is 00:27:37 in a photo dump they got grid prominence but like honestly her brother and sister maybe should have been first no and her instagram is so curated that it's actually like such an endorsement. It's wild. Maybe they got engaged. She like one time deleted all of her vacation photos because she wanted to put a different filter on them. That's crazy. And she's just out here posting Kourtney and Travis.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Whose house is that? Chris? I don't know. You think they just had like a big family dinner with their chef? I feel like it's Khloe's house because she's the only one who would have things like that in the back. What are those leaves? Pompas, they're called. Like those white influencer leaves.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah, right. Let me look. Kim would not. Kim would never. Well, okay, so. But no, but Khloe's in a new house. Chris and Khloe have new homes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So we wouldn't recognize them. I don't think that this is Kim's house. And it might be Kourtney's. It might be K's it might be Courtney's and Courtney's been hosting a lot she had that poosh pool party thing well here look so fabulous Courtney has a purse if you had dinner at your own home would you bring a purse yes okay if I was going to my backyard which was expansive yeah you need chapstick i need chapstick oh in your purse yeah for sure you need a tampon i do need a tampon thank you i'm trying to read through the comments anyone's like you know mentioning where they are but no no did she post any stories no okay well i guess we'll never know gorgeous i'm sure we'll know one day you know what
Starting point is 00:29:06 actually i feel like i can figure it out do you remember um we got those aerial pics i hate the word aerial our what are you trying to say birds i don't know like finish your sentence of chloe and chris's new homes oh here oh by the way that this is totally it. But you think it's totally finished with all these twinkle lights and everything? That picture was so recent. It still looks like a construction site. It's a month ago. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And she has so much tchotchkes in the background. But I do want to say a lot of the finishes on this white home that CMZ captured do look like the outside. That's just Kardashian style. I'm just saying. Well, it's not Kim style. No, it's not Kim style. It's possible.'s possible oh wait you know whose house this looks like but she's just not in the pictures kylie you know she has like that outdoor indoor type of home she wouldn't do her backyard like this she doesn't have pompous like that you know what we need to put this to bed we need to move on it's not i literally it's not the point I literally can't okay what's the point the point is that Rob is out and about Kourtney Travis Khloe like it's all in
Starting point is 00:30:09 the family and they're just living life I'm sure they were also filming for the show because they just started filming again and so you will find out one day and I saw a uh like Kardashian fan page Instagram account putting a picture is of Chris and Kylie filming in a grocery store so that's just very exciting that is very exciting Kylie oh wow maybe they can like finally afford her you know right no I think that like as much as Kylie didn't need the money she also like wasn't obsessed with the idea of doing the show but now that it's like a clean slate they probably have way more money Kylie's like something that'll actually get Kylie out of bed and like she can get involved in the creative process from day one like yeah she was just a
Starting point is 00:30:51 child with the Kardashian stuff so what do you think the show's gonna be called it could just be the Kardashians like they don't really need any bells and whistles keeping up was always like a long unnecessary name oh I couldn't disagree. I thought it was like perfectly branded. No, they made it perfectly branded. Them and their K's. But K-U-W-T-K. Yeah, people just called it Keeping Up, which is so cute. I thought it was a great name.
Starting point is 00:31:14 No, it was a fine name. I never had any qualms with it. But it wasn't like it made the most sense. Nothing will ever make sense like that again. Oh, no, no. I'm not saying that. It was a little long. No, no, I'm not saying that.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I just thought it was like a great name. I never really like blinked at it. I'm like yeah that's Keeping Up like the Kardashians. No I think whatever they do next will show you that that name was like. It'll probably just be called like. A mouthful. That name was a mouthful. I thought it was great. I totally disagree. Okay. I'm not I'm not gonna slander the good Keeping Up with the Kardashians names. I don't think I slandered it. I think I just said the truth, which is that it's a mouthful. Just because, does it being slandered make it not true? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Got it. Okay. Well, I'm very, very much looking forward to this new show. And Hulu's just out here churning out premium content. Like, we must put respect on Hulu's name. Yeah. Except for Nine Perfect Strangers. Thank you.
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Starting point is 00:33:24 Look into all the benefits that high fiberfiber foods can have for you. Yes, great stuff. Okay, next story. The Super Bowl 2022 halftime show was announced. Like, very quietly. Very quietly. It literally slipped through the cracks yesterday, but we need to talk about it because I always...
Starting point is 00:33:39 But not even yesterday. I heard about it on Friday. No, but for yesterday's show. We didn't do a show Friday. I always am so interested in, like, the acts and who's selected and the selection process, so I just find it on Friday. No, but for yesterday's show. We didn't do a show Friday. I always am so interested in the acts and who's selected and the selection process. So I just find it fascinating. 2022, we will have a show by Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Mary J. Blige, Kendrick Lamar. Period.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Period. Okay, so it's a medley of sorts. It's a medley. And I just, I'm anti-medley. I'm sorry. You are? My idea of a great Super Bowl halftime show is one iconic artist. If they choose to surprise us with a guest or two, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:34:15 But like, I miss the days of like, this is the biggest artist of the year. Like, this is their moment. And last year you said that like Pink was the next, should be the next. I always think she could be the next one. I always think Pitbull could be the next one. And I feel like any of these people on their own could maybe have been the next one. I just feel like it's now turning into a music festival. And I like when it was just like the one, it's the biggest, it becomes the biggest deal for that performer. It's a huge honor. I mean, Lady Gaga, five foot just like the one, it's the biggest, it becomes the biggest deal for that performer. It's a huge honor.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I mean, Lady Gaga, five foot two. Right. Like, it's such an honor. Your music just like sells like hotcakes after. And it's such a mark of success. It's like a legends category. And for the past few years, I mean, last year was just the weekend. And so that is.
Starting point is 00:35:00 That was good. That gives me what I was looking for. The performance didn't, but the performer. The choice. The choice did. But I do feel like in the past few years it's been like this medley and I'm anti-medley you know what I do agree with you like because it is this like one prestigious honor and it's like fun to see who's gonna get it every year and see how they do um I completely agree with you I'm not like the biggest medley fan I'm so glad that we can agree and I'm sure it will be great because all of these people are legends but like they could do the show on their own Eminem could do the halftime show on his own Kendrick Lamar could yeah Snoop Dogg I'm very much looking forward to and if Mary
Starting point is 00:35:35 J Blige doesn't sing doubt which has become one of my favorite it's such a good song but I feel like it's so it's not you know it's like not high on her hits list yeah but if you're ever feeling like low on yourself listen to that episode of toast radio where oh did we put it in yeah we did oh I think it was the theme for the toast radio justice for toast radio was like motivational song it was motivational because it was like January episode so it's like these are the songs that are going to get you to like accomplish your goals this month okay and doubt is that song like she is the moment it's so gorgeous like whenever I listen to it I just I like want to go for a jog or something like that's the point it's gorgeous check it out doubt by Mary J Blige and I'm sure she won't sing it because if it's a medley she
Starting point is 00:36:17 probably gets like two songs and I don't think that's like her top two but um so yeah that's why I'm just I feel like whenever I hear the selection whether it's a medley or an individual like I talk shit I'll say the performance if I like the performance then I'll think it was a good good selection I don't know I like to talk about the selection and then the performance yeah because I thought the weekend was a great selection then I thought his performance was like very low energy right so it's two totally different conversations and then like when JLo got it I was like pissed that Shakira got it too and then I saw it I'm like you know what this is actually pretty fire. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And if you had, at the time I would have said, I don't want a 50-50 show. I think that's unfair to like both icons. But they did a great job. Yes. But still, J-Lo could have done the whole thing. So could have Shakira. Right. So it's just like, it ain't right.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It ain't right. But I'll see how this turns out. And then you'll get my final verdict. But for now, I'm very much like. Why so many artists? Yeah. That's where I'm at too. Also like the.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Performance was announced. With Pepsi and Jay-Z's Rock Nation. Because he's been in charge of NFL entertainment. For a while. Not for a while. For like two years. Because the NFL was having a lot of problems like getting black artists to agree to do the Super Bowl because
Starting point is 00:37:30 they were having a lot of issues and so I think that the Jay-Z partnership was meant to be like a peace offering to you know work together and I guess it's working yeah no they're definitely getting some interest now and the Super Bowl is going to be in Englewood California at the SoFi Stadium oh that's pretty cool yeah so if you wanted to go who do you think will be in the Super Bowl let's place our bets oh that's a good idea and then we could okay so can I look up the teams right now I don't know like all their names and you have to be from different categories oh that's tough for me yeah all NFL. I don't know that I'll be able to do different categories. AFC, NFC. Yeah, those are them.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Okay. So many good ones. I think it's going to be the Seahawks and the Buccaneers. Is that a possibility? Oh, right, the Buccaneers. Okay, I'm going to say it's going to be the Buccaneers. Oh, you know, I kind of have like a good call. Oh, here.
Starting point is 00:38:29 East, west, north, and south. Okay. I think it's going to be the Buccaneers versus the Buffalo Bills. Is that possible? They're both east. Shit. Is that possible? Based on the just based on the um is that possible based on the country layout he doesn't know okay then i take it back i'll do the what is it called
Starting point is 00:38:56 buccaneers buccaneers maybe do like the rams okay here's the thing i'm looking at this list of NFL teams, and I don't even see the Buccaneers. Like, what am I doing wrong? Are you looking at cities or names? Oh, would it say Tampa? Yeah. No, it's names and the Buccaneers. Okay, so you're just trying to say they're not in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:39:20 I literally look. I'm just saying. Is that what you're saying? Let me check this again. Buccaneers. Found them. They're in the NFL? Literally, look, I'm just saying. Is that what you're saying? Let me check this again. Fuckin' hairs. Found them. They're in the South, and the Bills are in the East. I feel like that would be allowed.
Starting point is 00:39:33 No, but it's East versus, like, I don't fucking know. I'm not even going to pretend to know. I just know those are both East Coast cities. So don't they have to play someone from the West Coast? No, I hear what you're saying loud and clear so what's your what's your theory the bills and the buccaneers yeah okay i think they're gonna make an exception to the rule that's what i think okay cool we'll see you in february 2022 for the bills versus the buccaneers i think it's gonna be jets versus browns for sure i think
Starting point is 00:40:04 it's actually gonna be Jets versus Giants Subway Series Yeah I don't think that could happen No definitely not That's why I said it It's a joke Yeah but it should be able to
Starting point is 00:40:12 We're like so athletic Like look at your sweater Oh my god yeah Go New York What does it say? NY? NY It's a cool sweater
Starting point is 00:40:20 Thank you It's from Joshua Sanders The brand I wear every single day Oh my god I've got a place in order Yeah you do. Said, go, New York, go, New York, go. Go, New York, go, New York, go. Gotta get to a sporting event.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Go? Who's stopping you? Your husband goes all the time. I know. Just ask him to be invited. But then he says, like, want to go? And I'm like, no. It's like a Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I've had a long day. No, and it's, like, excruciating. No, and then, like, what, I have to do my hair? Like, it's a whole thing. No, those are, that's a process yeah okay next story a little content news house of the dragon teaser shows the first footage of the new game of thrones prequel series that is set 200 years before game of thrones house of the dragon is based on george rr martin's fire and blood and is set 200 years before the events of game of thrones as part of the h is based on George R.R. Martin's Fire and Blood and is set 200 years before the events of Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:41:06 As part of the HBO Max Europe launch event, HBO Max dropped the first teaser for the series. It's set to premiere next year, and it's all about House Targaryen. They're in power during the haunting teaser, which offers the first official footage from the show. So 200 years before, we're not going to know literally anyone. No, but you'll know last
Starting point is 00:41:25 names yeah for example we have Targaryen we have a high tower is that who's high tower I don't fucking know we know them another Targaryen another high tower Valerian that sounds like someone Missaria I just can't get excited about things that are happening in another year I know do you know how much is going to happen to me I know but it's good to have things to look forward to but then but then it's like okay I get excited for something in a year and then when it comes out I don't even watch it Jackie I couldn't agree more to your enhance it like Ben Platt special I was just gonna say did you ever watch Ben Platt's Netflix special nope nope nope you're really missing out it's so premium it's too emotional that's true it's
Starting point is 00:42:05 too emotional I just can't go there I feel that you know you can't access that portal of your heart right now I just can't like it's just how do you then close it it's I'm good I'm good on where I'm at I feel that um also like I keep seeing this promo for this new show on Peacock uh The Lost Symbol which is based on the book by Dan Brown, who wrote Da Vinci Code. Every single time I walk past it, I'm like, I'm going to watch it. And then I literally never remember.
Starting point is 00:42:32 No, that's why people have to stop announcing things so far in advance. Like if I can't have it in the next three months, I really don't want to know about it until then. No, I'm sure even when like the new Legally Blonde movie comes out, like I'm not going to even see it because. Well, that's also just like us being real with ourselves. Like what are the odds? The new Legally Blonde movie comes out like I'm not gonna even see it because well that's also just like us being real with ourselves like what are the odds one movie is going to be terrible yeah but we love it like but it will be bad it will not even be come close to the level of levels
Starting point is 00:42:55 of iconicism that the first two came into it's just really crazy that like with all the money talent effort in the world like there's just no possible way it could be good. Yeah, and I think it's more of a psychological thing. Like it's not that they could have hired a better writer and gotten a better script. It's been to Keeling. It's going to be amazing. It's just impossible.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yeah, no, it's true. It's science. We don't make up the rules. Speaking of content, are you ready for our fifth and final story? The final story! Do-do-do-do-do! Do-do-do-do-do! Do-do-do-do-do!
Starting point is 00:43:36 Do-do-do-do-do-do! Do-do-do-do-do-do! Do-do-do-do-do-do! The final story! Instagram and Facebook were hacked. Not my best work, but. No, I liked it. I liked it.
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Starting point is 00:45:08 Love it. Okay, our fifth and final story is some industry news, big news. The International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees has voted to go on strike. Have you been seeing this? No. The IATSC members voted to authorize a strike with over 98% support, signaling overwhelming support for its union battle with studios over two expiring contracts as widely IATSE members have voted to authorize an industry-wide strike.
Starting point is 00:45:35 This marks the first authorization of a nationwide strike in the union's history. So for the past few weeks, I've been seeing like stuff on social media. These are Broadway actors? No, these are everyone behind the scenes in Hollywood. So it's lighting. We're always talking about lighting, crew, makeup, costume. I follow some costume designers. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:53 So they've been talking. The vote just took place, and they authorized the strike with 98% of eligible members voting to strike. So this is going to affect all content production. What are they striking for what do they want they want better working conditions better hours they want weekends they want meal breaks they want better meal breaks you don't get meal breaks that's like that's what they're asking for because they don't get those things right now and the conditions these are not
Starting point is 00:46:20 conditions they can work under anymore they are saying so this is going to bring things to a halt in Hollywood and this is the largest strike of its kind but it does remind me do you remember when the writer's strike the writer's strike of course I went every show that we loved was just no longer on because of the writer's strike desperate housewives yeah I feel like gossip girl um so that was a crazy time I think this is gonna have like similar effects at minimum that's so crazy I do remember the writer's strike that was like a pivotal time in my life like and I needed the television and it wasn't there for me yeah so yeah this includes crew members internationally including cinematographers operators grips editors costumers and writers
Starting point is 00:47:02 assistants among others so when you go on strike, who are you striking against? Like the studios? The man, yeah. Like the, like... Yeah, the head honchos. Like the Harvey Weinstein types. Well... Former Harvey Weinstein types.
Starting point is 00:47:17 The studio heads, yeah. Studio heads. I would imagine. That's crazy. Gotta love an organized strike, you know? Gotta go on strike. Never been on one. What are you gonna strike for an organized strike. You know? Gotta go on strike. I've never been on one. What are you going to strike for?
Starting point is 00:47:27 World peace. Okay, good luck. I, you know, I remember watching Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen when I was a kid and she went on hunger strike, even though she was like secretly ordering pizza and hiding it under her bed. That's so you. And I was like, I want to go on a hunger strike. But then I was like too hungry.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah, I don't think that's going to be your protest method of choice. No, but I think I could go on like a... A vow of silence? Fuck no. I could go on a... Please. I could go on a showering strike. No.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah. No. You will smell me and then you will listen to what I have to say and meet my demands. No, it has to be something that affects you. But like you don't care if you don't shower. That doesn't make it a powerful strike. No, I would care. I would care after a few days. Technically nobody else cares. Like we could all just be away from you. But like you don't care if you don't shower. That doesn't make it a powerful strike. No, I wouldn't care.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I wouldn't care after a few days. Technically nobody else cares. Like we could all just be away from you. Really? Try. I'll follow you. We could all be away from you. We could lock you out.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Okay, fine. I'll do. I think it would backfire. But why do I have to suffer in a strike? You just do. I don't think that's right. I think that you do. Then why would anyone go on a hunger strike?
Starting point is 00:48:25 That I don't understand. But when Lola did it in Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen, it was because her mother was obviously worried she would starve to death. Yes. So she was, like, hurting her mother. So people have to be, like, concerned. Like, people have to care for you. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Because, like, let's say this union, like, the people making movies, they don't really care about the well-being of the... No, but if none of these people will work, they can't make their movies. I bet you the people making movies will go find other people to do the jobs. I don't know. Under their shitty conditions. That's so Hollywood. Potentially they could, but it's like 150,000 people.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Well, times are tough. People are going to be accepting jobs that they might not normally accept. That's true. Under conditions they might not normally accept. But there's a labor shortage. That is true. Throughout the they might not normally accept. But there's a labor shortage. That is true. Throughout the country. So I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Classic labor shortage. If they could get people to work. I just know Hollywood's like not going to help the little people, you know? No, but they'll have to reach some sort of agreement if they want the show to go on. Well, I hope that everyone gets what they asked for. Yeah. Okay, well, that was the past five stories. I feel as though you kind of needed to know that
Starting point is 00:49:25 was there were they were varied and i feel as though you needed to know them i do also you're going to want to know why your show isn't on right right when there's no new episode of riverdale yeah so we have to your toasters and i have a major exciting announcement about our third dear toasters which i'll get to we have an update from the girl who found adult diapers in her husband's closet do you remember i do but you know it really is crazy how I have such a strong memory yet some of these dear toasters evade me and I saw last week there's like a conspiracy going on in the toaster that we're recycling that we are recycling dear toaster submissions and maybe like some of them are similar but I feel like if anybody would have would feel like these are feeling so familiar it'd be us no first of all I don't even feel like they're familiar
Starting point is 00:50:09 we're not recycling I just think after doing this episode that we did on Patreon last week we've all married the same man so we're bound to have some of the same problems you know but it was like a bridesmaid thing like they swore that we already did that but like I feel like we would know first of all we're not intentionally recycling so we're not recycling we get so many submissions no I know so like it's a conspiracy against us again I just want to say like I to we're we're not nefariously doing it if if it were being done if it were being done accidentally somehow I think we would realize but it's important to know there's absolutely nothing nefarious going on there's nothing nefarious going on. There's nothing nefarious going on. But if you want to go through every episode and try and prove your point
Starting point is 00:50:49 that we've read verbatim the same Dear Toaster twice. Oh, yeah. I'll listen to facts. Yeah, I'll listen to facts. Okay. So are you ready? Yeah. Dear Toasters, first off, congratulations to Jackie O on the bebe.
Starting point is 00:51:01 You will be an amazing mom to this little boy. And him and all of your future children are so blessed to have you as a mom. Oh my, that's so sweet. Claudia, I love you and good luck on any upcoming projects. Good luck with your period. No,
Starting point is 00:51:15 good luck on your upcoming projects and tour. You'll do so amazing. You are such an inspiration. Oh my, I fucking love this girl. Here it goes. My fellow big breasted women help. I need a breast lift
Starting point is 00:51:25 and a reduction at 21 21 years old my saggy boobs are something that truly make me want to cry every time I look in the mirror at them otherwise I believe I'm a pretty confident person like I said I'm only 21 and these huge things grew on my chest when I was literally 10 and 10 years old so due to that and probably genetics my nipple my nipples face the floor. Sorry. I'm not laughing. I have saggy boobs too, so I can laugh. Same. No, but my nipples do face the floor. If you know, you know. If you know, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing with you. I really am. Okay. I went so eagerly to one plastic surgeon consultation where they did the whole bit of examining me and answering questions and agreed that I'm a good candidate for the procedure. However, my last question I asked truly broke my heart. Breastfeeding.
Starting point is 00:52:07 When you get a breast lift, you are no longer able to breastfeed. This is so sad to me because I know how important the health benefits of breastfeeding are and how bonding it is to mom and bebe. I'm a newborn care specialist and I work closely with moms and babies and I see the benefits of breastfeeding every day. As soon as the surgeon told me this, I went from willing to book the surgery for this coming December to becoming firm on waiting 15 years until I'm done having kids. This appointment was in June and now I'm back on the train saying, screw my future kids immunity
Starting point is 00:52:33 and brain development. I need new titties. This girl's funny. I'm pretty sure I've heard Jackie mention before how she would get some work done to her titties after kids. And I just know as women with large boobs, you probably know all the struggles. Yes. Do I get the surgery and stop being scared to take my shirt off in front of not only guys but also just my girlfriends when we're all getting changed and aside from my other people's opinions do I get the surgery so I can look myself in the mirror and not want to cry or do I set vanity aside and have what's what's in the best interest of my future kids breastfeeding can also be a journey so what if I don't get the surgery there's other complications and I don't even end up being
Starting point is 00:53:02 able to breastfeed the kids that I do have what if due to my saggy titties these girls hilarious wait what if what if due to my saggy titties i can't even find a man that thinks i'm attractive enough to have kids with me help a sister out please and any toasters that have had similar worries please feel free to start a conversation in the toast after dark group to help me make a decision with love a toaster whose next entry is going to be asking for ideas on how to make enough money to afford the surgery lol okay this is so relatable by the way i think about this all the time so fucking relatable and i think about this all the time i never before i'm where i'm at now like i never called and made an appointment or anything it was always just something that i knew that like yes of course i would like to have my big fake titties right now but like I have to wait
Starting point is 00:53:47 until after I have kids same I made the peace that like I will not be able to get my titties lifted and shrunk until the children are born so like I've made peace with that a long time ago I made peace with it a long time ago too and it definitely hinders things in your life like I can't wear Kylie Swift I can't do a jumping jack for a multitude of reasons the breast being one of them you can get a good sports bra no yes Jackie I'm telling you I cannot do a jumping jack you know what you want for you right now show you because of your breasts yeah they knock me right in the face get up let's see really I'm gonna do a full job well you're not wearing a sports bra well even with a sports bra I'm saying okay well she didn't mention anything about
Starting point is 00:54:24 jumping jacks. Okay. She said, you know, like for. I was just sharing a personal anecdote. Aesthetics. Sure. No, but I think there are certain things, but like you get a good bra. Check out Dominique.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Go down to Orchard Street, by the way. Or Soma. No, next time you're in. No, no, no. No. Next time you're in New York, you go to Orchard Street corset. Google it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:43 You go there. You go into the back room. The woman takes a look at your breasts and gives you the perfect bra for you. That should help you in the clothes department. Yeah. Okay, so that's just a fun trick of the trade for the big-breasted women.
Starting point is 00:54:54 And so you're feeling insecure about, like, taking your top off around your girlfriends. Yeah, that doesn't happen for me. Yeah, no. Also, I feel like as much as your insecurities are valid, I'm not, like, trying to doubt, I just feel like maybe you're 21, so, like, much as your insecurities are valid, I'm not like trying to doubt. I just feel like maybe you're 21. So like you're still a little young.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Like I stopped changing in front of my friends a while ago. Like, yeah. And when I was in high school. I'm always the friend who turns around like and I'm sorry. Maybe my friends talk about me behind my back, but I don't fucking care. Well, I just want to say I was never that girl. Like no matter how big or small I was, like I was always comfortable. But now it's just like we're a little too grown for that. Like it's not even about or small I was, like I was always comfortable, but now it's just like, we're a little,
Starting point is 00:55:25 we're a little too grown for that. Like, it's not even about insecurity. It's about like, I have a husband. Like what am I doing? Yeah. I feel that.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And so then the other thing that you had said was like, you're worried about someone loving you with your boobs. But like, I feel like for a man, a big titty is a big titty. And you know what? I actually think you have a better chance of catching a man with your big titty than with like post,
Starting point is 00:55:49 like if you want to, like, cause the boob that I would get would, is for a lady. Is a fashion boob. Is a fashion boob. It is not a man's boob. Yeah, by the way. So like we see,
Starting point is 00:55:57 women see like saggy nipples. Boys, boobs. Like they literally do not care about like the way in which they fall. Like they just are not care about like the way in which they fall. Like they just are excited to be in the presence of breasts. So I wouldn't worry about that hindering your dating life at all. But like it does feel like there's like a deep insecurity inside of you that like you think that the surgery would fix. And I like totally hear that as someone who's had many procedures done.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Like I don't know. I just feel like if you want to get the surgery like kids are born on formula and they're totally fine like yeah I agree you could do both I don't think it's life or death there are plenty of people who went on to be concert pianists who drank formula I agree and that's what I was going to say next like on the flip side you know plenty of people don't breastfeed who even haven't had to make this choice or don't breastfeed for very long and what if you know it doesn't work out surgery and it doesn't work out regardless so it's a lot of pressure to put on yourself um 21 like I think you could just get the surgery I don't know I think you could just get the surgery I just personally like I'm pretty much
Starting point is 00:57:04 in the same boat as you and I did same and I'm gonna wait till after the surgery I just personally like I'm pretty much in the same boat as you and I did same and I'm gonna wait till after yeah and she's also like a prenatal specialist like that's what she does for work so she knows really a lot about the benefits of breastfeeding but I don't know you also just like gotta live your life yeah and I mean how nice would it have been to be in like 21 wearing Kylie Swim and like having perky little breasts oh triangle bathing suit sure yeah oh bathing suit from Target sure yeah Oh, a triangle bathing suit? Sure. Yeah. Oh, bathing suit from Target? Sure. Yeah, borrow my friend's bathing suit?
Starting point is 00:57:27 Sure. Yeah, no. Like, I don't know. I kind of like love that experience for you. I don't know. I'm really, I will support you either way. I know that's not helpful. I know.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I will support you either way as well. It's not helpful, but. You also don't need to decide right now. Yeah, that's true. Like you could do it in a year. Yeah. Totally. Maybe try Orchard Street first street first okay we have two more one is a submission and one is an update and
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Starting point is 00:59:01 with her boyfriend for six plus years. They met in college while he was a senior and she was a freshman. She got the impression at first that he was a playboy, but has never had any suspicions or doubts. Until this past weekend when she received a DM on Instagram from a burner account telling her that her boyfriend has been cheating on her. Nicole immediately freaked out and told me and then confronted her boyfriend. He initially denied, denied, denied the entire thing until the guilt must have eaten him
Starting point is 00:59:22 alive and he admitted it all. To make matters even worse, they are about to move in together for the first time this weekend as they've been doing long distance for years as he lives four hours away Nicole is absolutely distraught and doesn't know what to do because they already signed the lease and have some things moved in she has only told me as her true bestie but she hasn't told any of her college friends or even her mom and sister as they would immediately banish him from the family I really loved Nicole's boyfriend so I am enraged and very upset to hear this news i can only offer her so much advice but obviously this is a very dicey situation as timing makes everything worse
Starting point is 00:59:52 would love to hear your fabulous advice sincerely a sad toaster who was dying on the inside for her best friend uh you know apartments make things like so complicated but they're not moved in yet also like i know that um cheating is cheating but like did he drunkenly make out with a girl at the bar is he carrying on a years-long affair yeah we do need more information on what the actual incident was because it does make a difference cheating is cheating but like I do believe like no I'm sure it's bad because like someone had to make a burner account like someone felt compelled to tell her and he lied for so long and it's not like he did something bad he felt guilty he came to her And it's not like he did something bad.
Starting point is 01:00:25 He felt guilty. He came to her. So it's not good. Yeah. They should definitely, even if they want to work things out, they should not move in together while they work it out. He can move into the apartment and pay the rent. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:35 And as, you know, penance for what he did. And she can, you know, stay with you or stay in her old apartment, whatever. But if she moves in with him right now, like, of course, that will mean that they will stay together. He will have learned nothing, paid no consequences, and it will happen again. Honestly, that was fire advice. Like, I don't think it would have come up with anything better. Like, he has to take on the burden of the apartment and the financial burden.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Like, he's the one who ruined this relationship because otherwise everything would be fine you guys would be living in your fabulous apartment splitting the rent but no he had to go and be an asshole so that and also the thing with cheating obviously cheating is terrible but I feel as though if I were ever cheated on the cheating would bother me but what would bother me maybe even more is like the lying straight to my face to sneaking around and like being capable of having like two lives like that would bother me scare me even more like the fact of like him having sex with someone else so like there's a lot to work through and it's not going to get worked through right now and I don't think working through it while living in a new apartment together is the best way to do it because you're just digging yourself in deeper and making it harder to leave if that's what you really end up needing to do
Starting point is 01:01:43 yeah don't let her move in with him. Let her stay with you. And this is his problem. He shit the bed and he has to clean it up and pay the rent. Yeah. That's just my opinion. Agreed. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Finally, the one we've all been waiting for. Update from the girl who found adult diapers in her husband's closet. Good morning, Jackie and Claudia. Thank you for eating my email almost a year ago. Yes, I loved eating it. I wanted to provide you all with an update. So much has happened to me in the last year. After finding boxes of adult diapers hidden in our home,
Starting point is 01:02:12 I confronted my husband about it, and I was shocked and heartbroken when he explained to me that he has been hiding this part of his life with me for years. I wonder what our advice was. Well, I think maybe we thought it was, like, kinky. Like... Oh. He has been wearing diapers since he was a child and into his adult life. He is currently 32 years old, truly heartbroken and devastated.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I have since left my husband. I tried to understand where he was coming from and be there to support him, but I couldn't get over the fact that he lied to me for so many years. So he's just, like... I'm not sure. Like, she just said he's been wearing diapers since he was a child and into his adult life. He's currently 32 years old.
Starting point is 01:02:49 So I guess he just never stopped wearing diapers. Because he's not... Just wait. I tried to understand where he was coming from and be there to support him, but I couldn't get over the fact that he lied to me for so many years. As crazy as it sounds, it wasn't even the diapers as much as him lying to me for so long. That's what I just said. It's never the crime. It's always the cover-up yeah and like you can say like he's not
Starting point is 01:03:07 potty trained and for some reason like sorry I don't think you call it potty trained when the person's an adult but yes okay but no but whatever it is like he can't control his bladder that could be like uh I've not heard of that but that could be like a health thing for sure like you love someone through that of course that's not something like'm sorry, that's not a deal breaker. No, the lying, sneaking around makes you think, what else are they capable of? A hundred percent. And like, that there's this big wedge between you. It's like, did I ever really know you if this is literally something that you do every single day
Starting point is 01:03:35 and you didn't feel like you could share it with me? So wait, there's more. Since separating, life has honestly been so great. My ex and I decided to remain friends and I'm there for support if he ever needs someone to talk to. He has also since come out as gay, which is something
Starting point is 01:03:48 he has been burying his entire life and he is so much happier being his true self. That's fabulous. I'm so happy for him. As for me, oh my God,
Starting point is 01:03:57 I have chills. I actually ended up, sorry, I lost my spot. As for me, I actually ended up falling in love with my best friend.
Starting point is 01:04:03 I confided in him during the situation and he has been so helpful in my healing. We've been so close since high school and the only man I've ever fully been my true self with and knows everything about me. It's the healthiest, happiest relationship I've ever been in. We just got a house together and a puppy and I got a new job. It's crazy to think about how much life has changed in one year. And I want to thank you so much for giving me the courage to confront my ex about his diapers because i don't know that i ever would
Starting point is 01:04:27 have and we both would be living a lie for who knows how long thanks girlies love you so much oh my god there's so much to unpack here he came out as gay she fell in love with her best friend she got a house a dog a man a job oh my god we're literally changing lives that is so beautiful and you know with the diapers thing it's like I still don't understand why like if it was a health issue or he was like I don't know but and this is kind of what we were saying before, like it's never just the one thing. Like there's always more underneath. It's a smoking gun. Yeah. So I think, and that's what we always say here when it comes to relationships, like really talking about it can never steer you wrong. I know, but it's so funny. It's so awkward. I don't take that advice. I bury everything unless
Starting point is 01:05:22 it's like, my philosophy is I bury it and then if if I'm having if I'm not having success burying it then I bring it up but sometimes I can bury something and I will literally forget about it and it's not like it like bottles up and festers beside me like someone will remind me like remember and I'm like oh shit yeah no I bury hatchets but I keep maps of where I put them that's the most toxic so toxic that's really bad like no I bury hatchets, but I keep maps of where I put them. Oh, that's toxic behavior. So toxic. That's really bad. Like, no. And I bury hatchets, but I keep maps of where I put them. No, sometimes I, like, genuinely forget that I was upset about that thing.
Starting point is 01:05:52 And that's good. That means it didn't require conversation. Right, that means you're healing. Yeah, nature is healing. But then sometimes it's, like, eating me up. And then it's conversation time. That's nice and healthy of you. But that works for me.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Everybody's different. No, to be honest, like I'm very much, I do take my own advice in this particular situation. There's nothing that goes on in my relationship that bothers me that I do not verbalize. Like I'm almost a little too communicative. I'm a pick your battle sort of girl. No.
Starting point is 01:06:19 I just don't like conflict. So it has to really, really be eating at me for me to want to engage in confrontation. No, I'm a pleasure to be married to. I always have something to say. That's funny. Yeah. Well, that was very exciting. That is really exciting. I'm really happy for you. I was not expecting all of that. No, me neither. See, this is why we love updates. No matter how long ago we read your prompt, this has been a year and she had so much to update us on. So if we've read your prompt recently, email us deartoasters at gmail.com
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Starting point is 01:07:40 If you made it to the end of this episode, congratulations, you're a true toaster, a part of the society, season two. And to let us know that you have made it to the end of this episode, you're a true toaster a part of the society season two uh and to let us know that you have made it to the end of this episode why don't you drop an emoji on your most recent instagram pic perhaps the emoji of is there a diaper no i don't think so maybe the poop emoji no that's rude yeah um oh maybe it was diapers for poop as opposed to for what? Pee. Why not both? I guess both. I was just only thinking about pee. No, I was thinking about poop.
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