The Toast - S4 Ep187: What Would Joan Want?: Wednesday, October 27th, 2021

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

Joan Rivers bio series starring Kathryn Hahn scrapped by Showtime (NY Post) Trailer For Paris Hilton Wedding Show, Paris in Love, Drops Reese Witherspoon Reacts to Stanford Breaking "No Filming" Rule After Rejecting Legally Blonde (E! News) Billy Porter to Direct and Star in Film Adaptation of the YA Novel Camp for HBO Max (PEOPLE) Travis Barker Gets Fiancee Kourtney Kardashian's Lips Tattooed on His Arm (PEOPLE) Vanderpump Rules Recap The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Wednesday. Wow, it is hump day and this is not how we thought we would be celebrating hump day today. Claude, I gotta ask you the question that'll signal to everyone that why this is an audio only episode. How ya durn? I hoped to never hear those words ever again. I just got back. I just fucking got back to America. I was so pumped for like a bang out week of toast episodes. And then yesterday we found out that there was a COVID exposure in our studio. So we're just like staying home, hunkering down, getting tested. And I'm like devastated, like fully devastated, even though like low key, I do love being home. I do love giving it my all to the show. You know, my gorgeous facial expressions, my gorgeous outfits that people are like constantly stopping me on the street. Like,

where is your sweater from? Like, it's it's just not the same, but it's fabulous nonetheless. Yeah, it's not the same. I do love a little audio only moment. And I did get to catch a few extra Z's this morning with Brute to do. But it definitely is a bummer. So we will be on the podcast for the rest of the week, just taking every precaution. And that's that on that, really. Well, it's really not that on that, because Friday was supposed to be our annual Toast-a-ween episode. And to be honest, Jackie and I haven't even really fully discussed

what this means for Toast-a-ween. I think that it's still up in the air. Like we're not going to do it Friday, but that doesn't mean like we might not do it Monday. Oh, that's true. Like I just don't think we should let COVID take this away from us. Like another thing that they're taking away from us. That's true. Okay, so Tostoween is up in the air.

We're making no decisions about Tostoween yet but definitely it it has been compromised in in some way it can't be this friday which was the initial date like we have our costumes ready but we will i swear like i will literally over my dead body will we let covid ruin tostoween like it is the best tradition at the toast and we did it in the middle of the pandemic last year we will not let them win okay i think that's a good plan. We have our costumes already. So it'd be such a shame if we didn't get to wear them. So we will.

We'll keep you posted on that. But in the meantime, we're just going to do what we got to do from home. Audio only. Still so much to discuss. Banner Pump Rules was on last night. Really crazy episode. I'm really excited to take your temperature. No, like literally bombs were dropped. I was not expecting to like have a jaw dropping moment. And I did see on Twitter that the ratings for Banner Pump Rules are at like the lowest they've been.

It was like half a million. Isn't that crazy? That's really crazy. I know. Wow. Okay, so we'll talk about all of that. Other than, you know, the usual, how was your day yesterday? We were so busy being like meetings girlies. We were meetings, meetings, meetings, podcast, podcast, podcast, just like nonstop. But I did find the time late last night to make a chili. And not only did I make a chili, I made a vat of chili because I'm going to be home for the foreseeable future, like, you know, hunkering down. So I figured if I don't have Tupperware on Tupperware full of chili, how am I going to survive? And I did try it out yesterday,

slightly different with Fritos instead of Tostitos. And I have to say, while the taste was there, in actuality, the Fritos are not big enough to scoop with your hand. So then I threw them in the chili and mixed it around, hoping to get some crunch within every bite. But they got soggy very quickly. It's like a soup cracker then. Yeah, they were just soggy chips in my chili. Not cool. So I'm not sure what to do with the leftovers. I liked the Fritos are so

salty. Like I liked it, but I don't know how to actually eat it. Okay. I'm sure people will let you know. I think people like use it as a garnish. They don't dunk them in like, they don't go below the surface. They just kind of sit on top. Like, you know, just like a little chili crouton. Oh no. I fully took the bowl, put a handful of Fritos in the bottom, chili on top, Fritos on top. Got it. Okay, so like a Fritos sundae. And like the ones on bottom were actual like spaghetti by the time I got there. Oh, wow.

Yeah, no, you're definitely doing something wrong. People will let you know the right way to do it. I also have plans to make a chili this week, and I did buy Fritos as well. But yesterday I was eating Tostitos just with salsa, about you know life as one does I realized if I if it had been a blind taste test like with a blindfold over my eyes Tostitos tastes exactly like Fritos they're just corn chips no there's a slight difference I have to say Fritos are slightly thicker in the chipness and they're saltier and there's like a corny flavor i think they taste extremely similar so you and tostitos has more you know variety and inclusivity on their shapes 100 shape so i mean i know a lot of people like the scoops

i personally don't i think that they you, they attack the roof of your mouth. Agreed. I love Tostitos minis. They're the perfect size. I love, I will die on the hill that Tostitos bite size are the best ones. Bite size mini rounds are the best ones. Perfect size. The restaurant style chips are too big and those corners will come for the roof of your mouth.

No, and it's like, how do you literally put a restaurant style tostito chip in your mouth I'm asking like for specifics it's impossible you have to break it up and then you're eating you know half chips which it's like nobody likes the half chips that come in the bag why would you make your chips nobody a hundred percent so that's just a little Tostitos philosophy for you this morning. But I think without further ado, we can just jump right in. Do you feel ready? I definitely feel ready. Aye, aye, Captain. I can hear you.

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The Joan Rivers bio series starring Katherine Hahn has been scrapped by Showtime. This is so disappointing. Turns out Joan Rivers won't be coming back to life in the biopic form anytime soon. Last month it was announced that Katherine Hahn would be portraying the late comic and talk show host in the Showtime's miniseries The Comeback Girl. Now those plans have been scrapped as the network does not have jones life rights variety reported the rights are currently held by the funny woman's daughter melissa of course it could have gone it could have gone the unauthorized route jones jokes and trademark catchphrases could not have been used without uh wrinkling melissa or the estate

so here's what i want to say first of all all, when I saw this headline, I knew Miss Melissa Rivers had something to do with it. I just knew it in my bones. And, you know, as much as I was really excited about this, something about the whole thing just didn't feel like it was going to be the moment. And I think that as much as I would literally like love and die for a TV show about Joan, I don't know if that was the right way to do it. Like, I really feel like Joan deserves like a motion picture that could be nominated for an Oscar with like a mega, mega, mega, mega star playing her. I love Catherine Han, but she's not that. And I don't know if she's really capable of being Joan. So I don't know. I'm like sad we're not getting it, but I don't

know if it was the right avenue to take because this is a woman whose life is very important and her story must be told in the right way. So I don't know if it was the right avenue to take because this is a woman whose life is very important and her story must be told in the right way. So I don't know if this was the right way. I feel that now that thinking on it, you know, I'm sure it might have not been everything that we wanted. Therefore, it would have been disappointing. So I guess it's better to have nothing than to have that. But still, you know, to have Joan back in the in the culture and everyone would be talking

about her and like watching her old stuff like I think Joan deserves that moment. So I hope that, you know, Melissa and the estate can eventually find the right avenue for Joan's life rights to be shown in a in a in a great way. And I do hope it's like in a high budget way. I do. And I'm concerned and I'm concerned now because like Showtime doing a miniseries like that's pretty and that's not Oscar you know Martin Scorsese but like that's pretty high end and so if she's saying no to that what it could be better okay what would be better like a Netflix miniseries because like that's like like Queen's Gambit stuff like that's like Queen's Gambit stuff. Like that's really. Well, if it's going to be a miniseries, which I would really think like Joan deserves, like Hollywood glamour, Oscar season, movies. I know like one of her before she died, like she was super upset that her documentary, A Piece of Work, wasn't nominated for any Oscars.

And it totally should have been. So I think that like stuff like that meant a lot to Joan. should have been. So I think that like stuff like that meant a lot to Joan. And I just think if I were able to choose, I would choose like a major motion picture, star studded, big director, big red carpet. But if it's going to be a miniseries, Showtime is fine. But I don't know, a streaming service, like you want the kids to know about Joan, you know, they deserve to know. Yeah, I would prefer miniseries over a movie just because that means we get more content like we get 10 hours worth of content as opposed to an hour and a half for sure but i'm just thinking of what joan would have wanted her life is so

there's so much there i don't think it can fit into an hour and a half that well that's the other thing it's like what era of of Joan's life are we focusing on? Like, you could do 11 miniseries about different times in her life, like the whole Johnny Carson era, her own TV show getting failed, her husband's suicide, her comeback, her second comeback, her third comeback,

her fourth comeback, Fashion Police. Like, you could literally do a miniseries, a movie on one year in Joan's life, and it would be enough content for one whole season so I don't even know what they were trying to focus on Catherine Han is young so it had to be like early Joan stuff well Catherine Han is 48 so I think it would have been it would have been younger than 48 and then also older she's actually a really great age because she like then yeah she can do both we could get like we could get like 30 years worth of Joan that's very true I mean selfishly I think her

name is Jean Smart the woman from Hacks I think she would be excellent as Joan as the the modern day Joan yeah but it's also literally just played it it's too close to Hacks totally totally I don't know I'm a little disappointed because I was looking forward to this and I thought you know Katherine Hahn Showtime this is going to be pretty good but it's just not our time you know and when it's not your time there's nothing to be done about that so true but also you said really nailed it like the the loss here is that like Joan will not be in the zeitgeist like Like if the show was out and popular, people who didn't know Joan or people who weren't alive for a lot of her work, like TikTokers, like it might have encouraged people to become

obsessed with Joan. And we don't we're not going to get that. And that's upsetting. Yes, but I do think we will get it eventually. You know, I'm sure Melissa has plans for these life rights. Yeah. And, you know, Melissa, I just, I just hope she has good plans. Right. Okay. So, so glad you brought that up because it's important to distinguish because

when I watched Melissa and Joan's season of Celebrity Apprentice, they kept saying that Melissa was a TV producer and to like use her skills in these various projects because she's a producer, she's a producer, she's a a producer now i'm not really sure what producing she has done i'm really not familiar i know that she was involved in fashion police so i'm just hoping that like she doesn't let ego get in the way if that makes sense like maybe she wants to be the producer on the show and whatever network will let her produce it is the one she's going to go with when that might not be the best idea yeah so we're going a lifetime right like that's what yeah yeah yeah okay well I'm gonna hold out hope and you know I'm I feel for Katherine Hahn because she just got the part of a lifetime literally but did you see that there was like conversation I

mean it was really I only saw Sarah Silverman talking about it about this concept of like Jew face and how she doesn't like and I think she was using Katherine Hahn as Joan Rivers as an example she was when someone they're portraying the life of someone who was Jewish and is like known for being Jewish and being Jewish as part of their personality and they're played by someone who is not Jewish. She called that Jew face. What were your thoughts on that? I can't speak to the Jew face thing because I had never heard that word and it sounded like, I can't speak to that.

But I will say when I watched her podcast, when I saw that Katherine Hahn was doing the role, was I like slightly disappointed someone Jewish wasn't doing it? Obviously. That's also how I feel about Rachel Brosnahan. Like the most Jewish show, Jewish role, Jewish culture, Upper West Side. And she's not even Jewish.

Like Alex Bornstein is Jewish. Miss Ungermeyer, Sneaky Brown Nose, or With a Hidden Agenda is Jewish. But Rachel Brosnahan is not. And that bothers me every time I watch a show. But I still really like the show. And that's not to say that Rachel Brosnahan doesn't do an absolutely amazing job learning about the culture. the show. And that's not to say that Rachel Brosnahan doesn't do an absolutely amazing job learning about the culture. With Katherine Hahn, I was disappointed, especially because Joan was

such, such a proud Jew. Her Jewishness made her funny, made her who she was. She was always talking about it. So I don't know, we live in this culture where recently, like we've, we place a lot of importance and value on having authentic actors and actresses whether you're playing someone from the gay community for the trans community we put a lot of emphasis and value on that and I understand that argument I fully do so I feel like it should apply to the Jewish community too yes I hear you you know you're you're making a very good case because before you started speaking how you felt, I kind of was just like, nah, like, just give it to the best person to play Joan, you know?

But don't you think the best person to play Joan would be someone who's authentically Jewish? Potentially, but if they tested all these people and Catherine Hahn, like, nailed it, then she nailed it. That's true. That's true. You know? But I just think, and I'm sure that's the way but but I hear what you're saying and I actually you know I I don't know that I would run around saying it's Jew face no I definitely would never fucking say that like ever even if it's true I never heard that term I'm not fucking saying it it's definitely a little disappointing yes I'm not gonna go riot in the streets, but I feel that way.

I felt that way when they announced Katherine Hahn. No shade to Katherine Hahn at all. And I also felt that way when I found out Rachel Brosnahan was not Jewish. But keep in mind, I found that out halfway through watching the show. She was so incredible at being Jewish that it bothers me less because I thought she was Jewish. And that's really what acting is all about. that's what acting is all about so but it's frustrating you know for sure because there you know what and I I feel like I mean this is something we touched on with the Dave Chappelle stuff yesterday someone corrected us that why the employees

were protesting was not to get the special taken down was like for more trans representation, trans storytelling. And it's like when you think of like what's on Netflix for Jews, it's like there's two shows about Jews running from evil Jewish communities, you know? Yeah. My Orthodox life and unorthodox. Right. It's like that's all we get. Like the worst parts and the most niche extreme communities. And so it's like for this Joan thing, like this is a celebration of all that's great about Judaism. Like it should be,

I think it should be played by a Jewish person, even if Catherine Han was the best person ever on the planet for the role. I do believe that. Okay. Interesting discussion. Yeah. You make some fair points.

I'm a fair queen. You are. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah for sure. It's some really sweet love news because Paris Hilton is celebrating her upcoming wedding with a new show on Peacock called Paris in Love. The trailer dropped yesterday and it is literally like a full-blown Paris Hilton reality show which I feel like we've been asking for for the last 20 years. Yeah. So they're taking us behind the scenes of you know all of her wedding prep conversations all of the you know things that go into being Paris and planning a wedding and it drops on

Peacock next month and I feel like Paris has had a lot of um like docu-series projects come out recently like she has her cooking show on Netflix she had you know this is Paris on YouTube and now she has like a full-blown reality show on Peacock I'm so excited about this show it looks like everything we've ever wanted the thing with Paris is that like and I think that's something like her brand has leaned into in the last few years it's like the more you know about her the more you like her like you think you know Paris from the iconic paparazzi pictures her and Brittany her you like her. Like you think you know Paris from the iconic paparazzi pictures, her and Britney, her and Lindsay. But like when you actually sit down like in the documentary on YouTube and you listen

to her, like there's so much there. So actually a docu-series, a reality show was the perfect type of thing for her. And I actually did go to her engagement party like last month and they were filming. So it was like full blown, like looks like they were filming Keeping Up with the Kardashians and it was a full blown, like looks like they were filming Keeping Up with the Kardashians. And it was a star studded affair. Kris Jenner and Corey were there. Amy Schumer was there.

Nikki and Kathy obviously were there. And they were filming for the show. Corey and Kris are in the trailer as you see. And then also, of course, like Paris. I mean, Kathy Hilton, her mom, Nikki and Kyle Richards are also in it. It's just like the journey to the altar for Paris. And it seems like it gets pretty personal. Like it's very, you know, it's a reality show.

And it's not just like some packaged thing, which I feel like it could have been. Do you think she's going to film the wedding? Well, the show's done. Oh, so it's over. Okay. Like, I don't know if there's ongoing filming. So I don't know. I'm not sure. Kudos to Peacudos to peacock kudos to peacock it looks so good and i'm so excited to watch it and

like paris is you know she's doing the damn thing a really quick question for you i didn't ask but is one of the stories about marlo hampton getting Yeah. No. Can we talk about it really quickly? Please let's. So Sheree is returning to Real Housewives of Atlanta as is Marlo Hampton as finally a full time cast member. She got her peach. Okay I didn't see Sheree. That's really crazy. And too so re-Marlow. I was under the impression that all these years, like the peach was hers if she wanted it. She just couldn't accept it. So are you saying that, you know, the walls came down in her personal life and she's now able to accept the peach? So, I mean, as far as I know as well, it was always up for grabs if she wanted it.

I don't know if that's true or not, but that's just like as far as, you know, the blogs and everything said. So I don't know if there was a shift. She's been a full she's been a cast member this whole time. She just wasn't holding a peach. She has been the straw that stirs the drink for the last 10 years without ever once having a tagline. So I don't know what the circumstances are that made it possible now. But as far as I know, yes, she was always able to become a housewife, but she had never accepted the offer. Because of like, you know, sometimes people have like legal stuff and there's other people

in their life who won't like allow it. But maybe maybe this time and especially because of the losses of, you know, Cynthia leaving and Portia, like maybe Bravo made her an offer that she could not refuse. Yeah, because, you know, Atlanta is one of those franchises that's dangerously, dangerously close. They're not there yet, but they're very close to having the same fate as OC and New York. They're almost there because the OG franchises, like, don't know how to exist anymore. Yeah.

How do you feel about Sharae? What are your thoughts on her? Obsessed beyond belief. Sharae is one of those housewives who is so iconic first of all she's been fired twice and asked back twice like that is just we love a queen who can come back and she's just like kind of delusional which i love in a housewife because it makes for just funny moments joggers joggers. Yeah. To a degree on the delusion. It just depends.

I'm upset. I'm personally obsessed. Oh, well, I'm so happy for you. I am. I'm open. I'm open. I'm not convinced, but I'm open. And I love her house.

Chateau Charest. Chateau Charest. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? And, sorry. The thing about Charest, I just remembered, chateau charrette yes yes yes okay are you ready for our next story which is sorry the thing about charrette i just remembered is she was really like the catalyst in that stupid fucking storyline about everyone comparing their houses like chateau charrette more manor

the lighting fixtures the molding on the basement like that was so funny and stupid and like that was really all charrette like she was competing with everyone in their houses so you know what I'm actually really excited yeah I agree our next story is some fun film news I just love like a film fun fact Reese Witherspoon Reese Witherspoon is sharing and reacting to Stanford breaking their no filming room rule after they rejected Legally Blonde so back in the day Reese was supposed to film Legally Blonde at Stanford and Elle was supposed to go to Stanford. But Stanford would not let them film the movie there. So they took their talents to Harvard.

And now, 20 years later, Stanford has broke their rule that says that you can't film there. Oh. And Reese is sharing, you know, the fun fact that they wouldn't let them film Legally Blonde there, so she went to Harvard instead. Which, by the way, like, I mean, both really prestigious, but, like, Harvard is iconic.

Because it's not the same, like, you go to Stanford, what, like, it's hard? That's not the same as Harvard. Well, the thing is about Stanford is, like, now that you're telling me this, I can really see that being the storyline. She's a Malibu girl. She loves California.

So like obviously Stanford seems like the easiest place for her to go. But it being this cross country, like different, such a different vibe, you know, waspy versus like West Coast money. It actually made it a much more interesting storyline And it made Elle stand out that much more. So it really definitely was a blessing in disguise. Like her pulling up, if she pulled up in a pink, you know, Ferrari or whatever it was, convertible to Stanford, like maybe not that many people would have turned around. But in, you know, Boston, all these like Connecticut wasps are so buttoned up. Like it was, it was really more apparent how different she was

yeah it was much more of a culture shock and you know i think like stanford might even be like the number one law school in the country but it's just like harvard is harvard and so i think l really i think l really benefited from this. Stanford is like so shady. Why? Oh, because of the like the rowing thing? Yeah. Well, that college admissions Netflix dramatized. I don't even know what to call it.

It was like a play. They really made me hate Stanford like a lot. Yeah. And now knowing that they turned down Elle like sick twisted. Twisted. But you know what? Now I guess I never really thought about it. Did they really film on premises of Harvard? And I guess they did.

I think that they did. It was so Harvard-y. That movie just gave us like every, like they didn't, they didn't cut one corner. Not one single corner. But if they wanted Stanford, they also could have just like built a set. Yeah.

No, but like, but it felt so real. Like I don't they also could have just like build a set. Yeah. No, but like the, but it felt so real. Like, I don't think they could have achieved that with a set. No. You know, anyways,

Elle's better off for it. A hundred percent. Harvard alum. And would she have met Emmett if she didn't go to Harvard? No, no, she would have met West coast Emmett. Luke,

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I don't think there's any relation to the movie Camp from back in the day. Oh, fuck. Okay, because Billy Porter would be amazing in that Right I thought it was gonna originally I thought it might be like a remake of that But it's based on a book that is not that movie Billy Porter is preparing to spend a summer at camp The actor is set to direct and star in the upcoming film adaptation of Lev A.C. Rosen's popular YA novel for HBO Max and Warner Brothers according

to Deadline. So this is really exciting. Billy will be playing the camp theater director. Oh that's great. Which is just going to be spectacular. I mean I don't know what this book is about but I'm assuming it's about a camp. Would you like a little synopsis? Yeah sure. I don't think I've ever even heard of this book. The story well it's YA so. I'm assuming it's about a camp. Would you like a little synopsis? Yeah, sure. I don't think I've ever been heard of this book. The story, well, it's YA, so. I'm such a young adult, Jackie, don't insult me. Unless Snitch recommended it, you know. The story follows Randy, a 16-year-old boy

who spends his summers at Camp Outland, a camp for queer teens. While there, he meets and falls in love with Hudson, who is only into straight acting guys the opposite of who Randy is Randy sets out to reinvent himself into someone Hudson could fall for only to ask himself how far he is willing to change for someone else wow sounds very YA sounds very YA and it's all set at camp like this honestly sounds like a great movie it's gonna be at HBO max and I love when

books turn into movies I really do me too Justin Baldoni and Colleen Hoover are like teasing so much on TikTok about it ends with us movie and they're giving us like nothing they're just teasing I don't even know if they've started like they're really building up hype so far in advance I hope they don't let me down damn it takes so long to get a book to a movie like you can't even think get excited about it like i really try not to think about luckiest girl alive even though i know well you know what at least they started filming like justin bernani i think they just finished a script like that's how early the stages are yikes y Yeah. Yeah. That's rough. Well, are you ready for our fifth and final story?

Are we going to sing about it? Long distance singing? No. Mm-mm. Unless you want a solo for today. I think you deserve the solo for putting up with me. No, I'm okay today. I'll let you know when I need to let out my fifth and final story aggression. Okay, fine. I'm fine, too. You're you know when I need to let out my fifth and final story aggression. Okay, fine.

I'm fine too. It's the final story. No, I'm done. Okay, I'm fine. It's the final story, you guys. Yeah, now you know. Travis Barker gets fiancee Kourtney Kardashian's lips tattooed on his arm. So Travis Barker's artwork, body art, is making a lot of news.

Not only did he get Kourtney's lips tattooed on his arm, he also covered up his tattoo of Shauna's name. And he put a scorpion on top of it. I think that's a scorpion at least. Yeah. So here's the thing. Obviously, when people who are really into tattoos, they get their partner's names, things change.

It's I only feel weird about this because I don't like that he covered Shanna's name. Shanna. I don't like that he covered her name with Courtney. It makes it seem like Courtney's might be covered up next. Like, I think he should have covered Shanna Moakler's name, but then also like given Courtney her own premium spotlight on his neck or something. Interesting. Well, he covered her name with the scorpion and then the lips are next to it. So it's not like lips over Shanna, but they are all there. They're all on the same upper arm of the arm. Yeah. It's like where my fat flaps.

But for him, I guess it's muscle. Yeah, like the bat wings it's called for some of us. But see, like, I just think, I just think it's weird. Like, I wish that he had put Kourtney elsewhere. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that he's going to be putting Kourtney a lot of places in the next, in the next few years. I think this is just her first stop on the tattoo train. They're being kind of like low-key post-engagement. Do you agree?

Yeah, sort of. I guess low-key post-engagement. Do you agree? Yeah, sort of. I guess low-key for them, but I think they're just living life. I'm just living life. Jackie. Yeah. A, B, C, D, E, F, G. Hmm? I have to go.

Yeah, I guess they're probably just enjoying you know post engagement bliss yeah they're probably on a trip or something yeah they're always on a trip i know they're also like always home with the kids yeah and they're always at disney you know what they should have their own show called blended they really they really should they should no like i'm actually not even kidding no wait by the way speaking of things that we love did you see these new annie live promo pics okay you guys harry connor jr posted a picture of him and sandy and he also posted a solo shot of him as daddy warbucks bald and all and he looks like jeff bezos oh my god no he doesn't he looks like so they made him bald which he's obviously not bald so he's wearing a bald cap and i actually think he has really really thick hair under the bald cap that's not being hidden perfectly well

so he actually looks like a square head like he looks like a robot with like a computer for a head. I just feel like in this situation, this is also reminding, this is reminding me of Jew face and also impeachment fat suit gate. Yeah. That they really could have benefited from having an actual bald person. Or Harry Connick Jr. should have shaved his head. Yeah. But you said he has a nice head of hair.

You know, so he might not want to give it up just for one night as Daddy Warbucks. Really? Well, if he was that committed to the role, Jackie, maybe he would. No, so I'm saying, like, do you think a real bald man should have gotten the role? By the way, now you're really making me contradict myself

because I remember when we spoke about impeachment, I was like, who fucking cares? Like, let her wear a fat suit. But then i'm also over here being like you know jews should play jews and should bald people play bald people you know what i'm really contradicting myself but i guess like judaism is an identity and like a religion and like weight is fluctuating i don't know i don't know why I feel, I still, I stand by what I said about impeachment and I stand by what I said about Brosnahan. So that's where your line is.

I guess. That's where you draw the line. And I mean, I think that makes sense. It's also a case by case basis, you know? Yeah, I guess.

But then it's just like, then you're all over the place. Have we met? I'm Claudia and I're all over the place. Have we met? I'm Claudia and I'm all over the place. Yeah. So anyways, I mean, Annie live. Annie looks great. Sandy looks great.

Sandy looks gorgeous. And actually so authentic to the OG Sandy. Has anybody heard from Theo since those pictures dropped? Like I heard he's fucking devastated. He didn't get the role. Wait, he was right here. He's literally sleeping, crying under the dining room table. Oh, my God.

Theo, like, it's not the, this isn't the one, the role you wanted. Theo, it's not you. It's them. Theo, it's not your time. No, it's not your time. But Annie did look unbelievably cute unbelievably cute I'm still excited because even if it goes off the rails even if it goes off the rails like it's gonna be something to watch like something worth participating in can you remind me when it's

coming out it's coming out December and I think it's December 7th I just um let me you know what let me get a date I'll send you a calendar invite. We'll make a chili. I would know. I would really love for it to be like a few weeks later while everyone's on holiday break. Like we can watch it together as a family. December 2nd.

No, I have a show that night. You're lying. I swear it's the opening night of my tour. Sold out in Minneapolis. You have a show? Are you in any live? Wait, Claudia, I just found a bit more of casting news that slipped through the cracks. What?

So Lily St. Regis, who is Rooster's girlfriend, is being played by Jane Krakowski. Cold star. It is officially an Oscar-worthy performance. Yeah. is being played by Jane Krakowski. Cold Star. It is officially an Oscar-worthy performance. Yeah. I mean, it's not a big enough role for her, but... You know what? There will never be a role big enough for Jane Lynch. Oh, wait.

Did you say Jane Lynch or Jane Krakowski? Jane Krakowski. Jenna Maroney. Okay, she's good, too, but I thought you were talking about Jane Lynch, and I literally... Jacqueline White. No, I understand.

She's excellent. I adore her. But I just got excited over the possible Jane Lynch of it all. No, if Jane Lynch were in it, she would have to be Miss Hannigan. Oh, that's a good casting first of all. And actually, you know Jane Lynch is on Broadway in Funny Girl. So obviously everyone who

watched Glee is like, LOL rachel berry never made it to get funny girl but sue sylvester did coach sue made it to broadway it's actually pretty that's hysterical yeah that's really funny okay well that's your annie live update for the day everyone um you know we'll get the official countdown going i think it's about 40 days till annie live so it's really really exciting um we also have a tv recap segment because vanderpump rules uh tortured us last night and the vanderpump rules recap is brought to you by zocdoc has this ever happened to you you need to see a doctor you search find one that looks good you wait on hold to book an appointment rearrange your schedule and when you finally go in to find out, this doctor doesn't even take your insurance.

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Many are available as soon as today. That's Z-O-C-D-O-C dot com slash toast. Thank you, Claudia. Let's talk about Vanderpump Rules. I'm not going to lie. I really like there was a bombshell that was thrown down last night and I didn't think they were going to show us. If they were, I thought they were going to wait till next week but lala really is out here moving the needle on this show because if it weren't for lala i don't know what the fuck we

would be talking about like i can't with sandoval anymore he's looking creepier and creepier with his mustache and then like his sweaty up close workout scenes like it was just so unnecessary so extra like i have to have a boy's and wear a cowboy hat. Like there's nothing interesting, funny or cool about it. Sorry. But I completely agree. Back to Lala. The whole cast has like turned on Lala for blowing this thing wide open. But I just want to say if the show aired and we met Brock and we heard he didn't meet his

hasn't seen his kids in four years, like someone would have found the reasoning on like this was going to get out you were on a reality show if you have a criminal past if you have documents in the court that you have a restraining order against your ex-wife like she has friends etc like this was going to come out so for it to not come out on the show would have been asinine and also like until we had a reason to understand why you haven't seen your kids in four years like we weren't letting this go no it was like this huge bombshell that was dropped to have four kids and haven't seen them in four years and there was no he was kept trying

to make it seem like the reason he hasn't seen them is because he moved to america but there are these amazing things called planes so it's like why wouldn't you speak to them on facetime facetime right so he dropped the bomb and he left us all curious. There was a piece missing and you know what? Lala went out and found that piece and I'm grateful because I was confused too.

And now that I know this information, I feel so bad for Sheena and like, you know, I feel like she's like stuck in this relationship and she's trying so hard to convince herself and everyone around her

that it's going to be okay. And I don't know what the circumstances are of Brock's domestic violence and restraining order with his ex-wife, but that's never good. So I'm just now, and I actually really do believe Lala

when she says she's coming from a place of caring for Sheena because Sheena, I think, looks at the world through rose-colored glasses because she is like this really just sweet girl who sees the best in everyone. And that's just not, might not be the case yeah I think Lala's coming from a good place I think for Sheena I think right now in her relationship with Brock though like I think Sheena is happy like I think that he is a good dad to Summer but it's like this looming thing of like this is what

this man is capable of but Sheena says like she knew from the from the moment that she met him and still like she wanted to have children with him and she this is her partner so but I think what Lala was saying and first of all I thought she was so genuine and clearly she's in like a very similar place to Sheena so she clearly relates to her and like can just see everything through a similar lens but when she was saying like Sheena you can't be stupid because like in the past Sheena has been extremely stupid when it comes to men and it's always it's actually been always less serious than in this case of course particular but like with rob and like just you know letting people walk all over her and just becoming like anyone that they're looking for until like it's

unsustainable but now like she can't do that shit anymore she can't just like let a bad person come into her life and walk all over because of her daughter and I think that's what Lala was trying to say like even though and I think really it's not so much stupidity it's like it's just naivete and like yes wanting to see the best in people I think that's what Sheena's thing really is especially wanting to see in the best in in her boyfriends yeah but that scene she doesn't give that same grace to her she doesn't give that same grace to her friends because she just automatically assumes lala is coming from a nefarious place when i don't think lala could have brought it up in a more respectful way and also she was not she almost didn't bring it she

didn't say it in front of the group she told her to say it well so the thing is is that brock pulled lala and randall aside after they work off camera to tell her basically being like this is a situation like can you just like leave it there and i think that brock was upset with himself for trusting lala to not bring it up on camera he obviously doesn't want this brought up on camera and lala did just that yeah i mean i i guess she shouldn like, technically she shouldn't have repeated something. No, Lala's doing her job. But yeah, Lala's doing her job.

And also, I thought it was really strange when he had his tantrum in the driveway and then said, like, life is a different game when you're not sucking dick for Range Rovers. Ooh, that was fucking low. I thought, I mean, yeah, it's a mean thing to say, but I thought it was so weird because it was like a direct quote from this show. And it's like, have you watched every single episode and studied all the lines? That's actually a really good point

because the whole Range Rover was a whole storyline like three years ago. Yeah, and also it was, you know, it was literally like four years ago that this happened. So you don't know, like if there wasn't a show about this, you wouldn't know that that's like what they say about Lala. That's so fucking true. It's such like a tell that he's like all studied up on the cast.

Jackie, you are truly a clairvoyant future teller. That's so fucking true. So that just struck me wrong. And like, I just, I hate that there's no one like it seems like it's Lala versus the rest of the cast I don't think Lala gives a fuck though no but it's frustrating to watch because all these people like when their strength in numbers so when everybody is like saying the same thing about someone they just assume that they're right and then it takes like watching the show even though people I was like reading on Twitter and stuff I think people really

don't like Lala like some fans of the show I feel that I I can't relate but no me neither but it's also like those are the same people who think Tom Sandoval is like the best coolest guy yeah so like those just are my people um I actually really uh had a lot of respect and i was very moved by katie maloney sharing the story of her having an abortion and feeling like that might have been a factor as to why they're having trouble conceiving and i was incredibly relieved when she she showed her whole vagotomy on the show which was very cool and her uterus is in pristine condition and i was very relieved and i thought that that before it went sour I thought the lunch was with Lisa when she was really like genuinely wanting to meet the babies I thought

that was a sweet moment and you know I see the worst in Lisa Vanderpump yeah I thought it was sweet I thought the whole spread was really cute like these are all grown women now and they're acting like it you know it's not just like we're going over for cocktails like we can have lunch like like the adults that we are and I also felt that in that fertility scene with Katie and Schwartz, when the doctor was asking him all those questions about his lifestyle, I felt like there was a lot of good information that came out of it just for the viewers. Mushrooms? Mushrooms.

No, not even like tea, but just the stuff about taking really hot baths or being like. Oh, you meant it was educational. It was educational for anyone else who might be trying to get pregnant i i thought yeah i can definitely see how marijuana would like lower your sperm count and like hot tubs hot baths yeah and it's really funny that just four hours before like he took a scalding hot bath totally i actually really enjoyed that storyline i usually find stuff like that like doctor stuff to be that kind of boring, but I really do love Katie and Tom. And the last thing I wanted to say about Vanderpump rules really quickly. Well, while we're just talking about Katie and Tom, I just

want to talk about when Tom Sandoval had another breakdown during D uh, DF. Oh, that's what I wanted to ask you. What do you think about the concept of DF, DFH? I thought it was a really good idea. The fact that it's not already on the market is a bit of an issue because this was filmed years yeah and and no there's two years worth of drinking from home that was missed no not only that she's promoting it on the tv show now and it's not even available in real time i i didn't even go to see if it was available but it's like you know people are bars are open like yeah people do there's less drinking from home that's happening it's a it I just I hope that the timing is still right but I do think it's a really really good idea and they're the exact right people to do it totally um but when Tom Sandoval had a breakdown

about you know he doesn't like the energy of Tom Schwartz when he's around Katie I was like his wife yeah it was so stupid like she's a new girl he's dating and it's like I don't like who you are around her it's like this is his fucking wife you don't like it you leave you're the you're the temporary person in this situation you're the one who doesn't have binding legal documents between you two get the fuck out of here oh also Tom Schwartz's home equity loan being denied and Tom Sandoval saying he'll pay. Like, this restaurant, the more I hear about it, I want to scream through the TV, put my hands through, and shake them. Like, this is not a good idea.

The show is on its last leg. You already have one successful restaurant that you have to put up very little money for. Lisa's going to run the whole thing. It'll be a guaranteed success for a few years. This restaurant is the dumbest fucking idea. I'm screaming, begging, i know i do hope that by the end of the season it's like they've decided not to do it and maybe it was just all for a storyline because i don't think so i know i'm just hoping because it's extremely financially unwise and again like tom sandoval

saying on the one hand he's saying he'll cover schwartz's peace until he can pay him back just being you know like the generous extra no but he wants to be 67 shareholder right but he only said that in his confessional yeah in front of tom he said i got you and then in his confessional he said he's the controlling party no he's the sneakiest person on the show. Yeah, he he's all wrong. I do think that like the, you know, everybody else leaving the cast, especially Jax being gone because Jax was always like the foil to Tom Sandoval and they were always fighting and Jax was always the villain. So you just assume Tom was like the victim. He's really shown him being on has really shown a spotlight on how unreasonable, annoying.

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