The Toast - S4 Ep196: It's Giving Ramona: Tuesday, November 9th, 2021

Episode Date: November 9, 2021

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Morning Toast. Happy Tuesday. Hello, Jax. How you doing? I'm doing pretty well for a beautiful Tuesday here in New York City, and it's Fendi Skims launch day. So I've been up and at them since early this morning, waiting with bated breath to see what I could snag. And I got pretty much what I wanted. Good, good. This is what you got. Yeah, no, I got some stuff, too. I'm not gonna lie. I was a little because it's what you got. Um yeah no I got some stuff too. I'm not gonna lie I was a little um jilted. Is that the right word? By the prices. Yes but had you not I mean seen them before. No no did you? Yeah. Oh no I didn't see and it was just like $2,900

for a jacket like hello. The puffer. The puffer. Um so I didn't get exactly what I wanted because I'm a reasonable human being but I still did get stuff and you know what's so great is that you can return it. I didn't realize that before I checked out that you can return stuff. I would have bought even more. See if I liked it. I didn't realize that either but now I like I had a pit about like spending so much money before 9 a.m. Same. I actually took something out of my cart and now I'm a fool. Yeah. Everything sold out. It's all gonna be marked up. It was an investment. I played the stock market this morning and I just didn't have the heart for it. Yeah, no.

And it's like, I can imagine that like if I get something and I don't end up wearing it and the tags are still on it, like it has a decent value, right? Yeah, I think so. Stock X, here I come. I think so. Yeah. I don't know if like Skims like cheapens the Fendi brand or it elevates it. I think the fact that it is a limited edition thing.

I mean, Fendi puts out clothes all the time. They don't have a drop that sells out. No. In 10 minutes. Literally everything was like just flying off the shelves. If you were online, hope you guys got what you wanted. But it was really crazy to see. I imagine that the Fendi team is like, whoa.

Blown away. Yeah. They don't sell like this because it's just so expensive. And the fact that it's so expensive, I thought we would have at least 30 minutes. Like I didn't think we would have like classic Kylie Lip Kit numbers. no I was kind of taking my time but um and I missed out on one thing that was in my cart that dropped out of my cart that I was excited about because it would have looked cute it was hard to do the shop pregnant because I wanted to get stuff that I could wear now no it's all so tight and like bodycon I know so I just I like ordered a size

up and everything it'll fit me when I'm not pregnant. Hopefully it fits me when I'm pregnant. Yeah. No, it's very exciting. Congrats to Kim. Congrats to us for securing the things we needed to secure. And it's just a gorgeous day. It's Tuesday. We have dear toasters for you guys today, which is a personal favorite of mine and millions of toasters. Um, and yeah, how are you doing? I'm doing well you know just chilling it's been a nice week I feel like yesterday I got so I finished a book watched a lot of tv started a new book spent quality time with brusseldorf so important so it was just a really well-rounded day still enjoying all of my post-birthday sweets and treats I'm so jealous I gotta come over you do I have everything I have

like nothing in my home it's like I have to make a concerted effort to eat vegetables and healthy foods because I have so many sweet treats. You're not going to poop. That's true. I'm pretty, that's like not an issue for me. You're pretty regular? Yeah, I don't have to think about it. How nice.

Like my body does what it needs to do. And if it's been a few days, I don't even realize, you know? Yeah. Totally. Right? You don't have poop issues. No, I really don't. But Margot Ashtray once told me that like she poops every morning like the second she wakes up and i'm like that's psychotic that's

like a really intimate detail but can i tell you that it's been happening to me recently and it's a delight like a great way to just like drop off the kids before you wake up that's really um now we're just getting to a place so let us know where i'd like to come i would like to come back from this conversation okay well um we both watched curb your enthusiasm we did which by the way i feel like calling it curb your enthusiasm is like so weird because it's called curb sure no like i've never like i just feel weird saying curb your enthusiasm it's like not the name of the show okay so say curb yeah it was just pointing out that i said it weird okay um and i thought it was good I thought it was so good it

was like giving me old school curb vibes and the quandaries that Larry found himself in were very real the middling in the table was hysterical yes and it's a really really true point like only true charismatic gals such as ourselves can really sit in the middle of a dinner party at a dinner table of a dinner party I don't go to that many dinner parties where it's like a mixture of people where the conversation needs to be finessed like that so I actually don't know if I'm the girl to middle I don't think I am I think I'm you know a side just chiming in but I'm not the person that's gonna like conduct conversation well the thing is like I am a great middle but I don't want to be do you know what I mean so like I could see a dinner party that I could like finesse fabulously and sit in the middle but like I will be selfish and

take my talents to the corner yeah just because I want to do it on my terms I'm not working here tonight you know but I could do it if I needed to. Like that's what we do on the show. We make conversation. We have thought provoking discussions. I have it in me. That's just not what I want to do in my spare time. 100%. You know.

100%. But would you rather than have someone else in the middle. And then you're at a boring dinner party. Right. Knowing that you have so much to give. To give. And that you could spice this thing up. Yeah.

And then you're just a. Like these are the consequences of your own actions at that point. Like you didn't middle and now you're paying the price. Yeah. So it's tough. You get in what you put out. And it was a good episode. I felt like the first two episodes of the season were actually like some of the worst ever. And this one was good.

Like I chuckled a bunch. Me too. I chuckled a bunch and the setups were good. There weren't too many things happening. Yeah. All good. I'm feeling good. Yeah.

I just, I'm still like yearning for a curb that commentates on like what's currently going on in the world or what was going on in the world when they were filming. And like, so as good as this episode could have been, like it's not what it needed to be still. Understood. But we're going to have to change, level set. I just keep like waiting for like the other shoe to drop yeah it's over it's over yeah no it's not happening that's crazy to me yeah devastating

devastating I also so I was reading this book called The Last Thing He Told Me by Laura Dave I think it was a Reese's Book Club choice I just finished it yesterday and it was pretty good in case anybody was thinking about reading it it's like everywhere you know it's like a super popular book but it just wasn't it didn't do much for me but it was a pleasant read like I was hopping along and then I started um a new book that actually Lauren Bostic recommended to us when we were on her podcast Good Morning Monster yeah yeah and so it's non-fiction and it's about non-fiction is not real non-fiction is real I'll never understand okay fiction is like you know novel no I'm made up literally a New York Times best-selling author and like I can't figure it out I don't even know what I tried to find myself on the New York Times best-selling

list like I didn't know which list I was like non-fiction or fiction you are non-fiction mostly what we read is fiction Colleen Hoover yeah yeah yeah yeah like fake stories so I have had this like wanting to read for a while I just like it was like this is an interesting choice it's a therapist who's sharing the stories of five of the most memorable patients she ever had so last night I finished the first patient and it's a great story it's like really getting me into like a psycho therapist analysis vibe but it's good it's definitely expanding my mind that's good yeah so it was a good recommendation speaking of Reese's book club yesterday I actually found

myself on like a rabbit hole of Reese Witherspoon's Instagram and I guess it just like never occurred to me like how rich she is like she does the most first of all just being like Reese Witherspoon all the movies all the tv shows the morning. Her best work is like these days. Like she's not even close to being done, Big Little Lies. But then there's Reese's Book Club, which like has so many followers. I was just like looking into it because I think I was looking at the Redheads. Remember I was telling you how the Redheads Instagram was so impressive? So I went on like a book club rabbit hole and then I got to Reese and then I got to her Draper James. Like she's just busy and rich. And Hello Sunshine. And that's probably the biggest of them all. And

that's the one that was, like, Blackstone just, which one of her projects just literally got valued at a billion dollars or got purchased for a billion dollars? Hello Sunshine. Probably. That's, like, the umbrella, right? It is. And I think it's also the biggest endeavor of hers.

It's, like, the TV network. Morning Show is Hello Sunshine. Little Fires Everywhere was Hello Sunshine. Right. So, like, she chooses these books and then she makes them into shows. No, it's synergy. It's really so smart and she's so good at it. And she's really cornered the market on books.

And it's like she's done this huge business empire thing, but she's also still acting in some of the best work, most critically acclaimed, still being nominated for awards. Like it's crazy. But it's also like the things that she's working in and and on are hello sunshine so it's just all going back in teresa's pocket synergy it's it's honestly brilliant yeah no she's she's doing her thing and then there's the draper james of it all which personally isn't for me but people are obsessed it's like a southern vibe clothing line yeah not from I've never shopped it. Me neither.

But good for Reese. No it was just like crazy. Like she's like one of the richest celebrities. Like and she's just like so underrated. No and she's so influential. Yes. Like if she puts her thing on your book. It's like over for you.

Oh that for sure. But like she. Like it must be so nice to like pick up a book. Be like this would make a great movie. And go make it. No and then like it actually be good. Yeah. And she's also doing Where the Crawdads Sing movie. Of course she is.

And that is just like the biggest book of the last three years. It's crazy. Well, second biggest. Yes, Reese. Second biggest book. Thank you so much. Available at girlwithnojob.com slash book. Also, if you head over to that website, you get tickets to my tour.

It's like low-key really soon. And like, I've had like consistent nightmares about it for like the past two weeks. That's how I know it's getting really close. Also, you just like popped up one day and added a show in New York City. Didn't tell your sisters. Yes. Didn't tell anyone. Well, so I added two shows in New York.

I like to get started in New York. I'm doing them at City Winery. I really opened it up only to the Patreon members. Because I like to warm up in front of a small crowd. In front of like people the like the Patreon members are just like my family so like it'll be it's basically a friends and family show there are two really small shows they're only about 100 people each um at City Winery at the end of this month like they're really soon I when I first of all I didn't know about it until they

sold out and people were like can someone sell me your New York City tickets I was like girl where have you been there is no New York City show I'm like where New York City tickets? I was like, girl, where have you been? There is no New York City show. I'm like, where have I been? Then I was like, oh, she finally added New York. I guess that's like at the end of the tour. So I was like, maybe it's 2022. And then I realized, no, no, no, it's in two weeks. Yeah. No, it's not like, it's really just for me to get comfortable.

No, I understand. I'm so excited for you. I understand what it is now. I just had no idea. Do you want to know why? You're just like dropping, just had no idea do you want to know why you're just like dropping dropping dropping do you want to know why like I feel like in the past and like up until recently like every time I farted I would like put it in our group chat yes and I just feel like people were getting like annoyed with my updates so I just stopped you know okay so here like why

does it have to be all or nothing it's's not. Like, every fart or no updates? No, now I feel like I'm putting in, like, just, like, the sharts. Okay. Like, the major life-changing farts. Not, like, the I'm doing a 100-person show. Like, no one cares. No, but we care because it's New York. But, like, you'll be there.

But, like, here's the thing. Just, it's okay. You can share. No, no, no. It's fine. I'll stop bothering everyone with my major success. Like, it's definitely annoying. I can totally understand.

So then don't come at me like you didn't tell me. Like, sorry, you were not loving, like, the updates when I was giving them, so I just stopped giving them. Who came at you? Was that meant towards me? You right now. No, I was just explaining the journey that I went on, and I was excited for you. And I was explaining, like, how I've been, you know, put down by my family.

You know, it was just like a small thing. It's going gonna be fun and light and fun and city winery I've actually never been to oh actually we have were you there yeah I wasn't there when you were there but I've been there gorgeous venue waterfront waterfront it's gonna be like so intimate I made the room really small I just wanted to like go through my material launch a show in like a warm space yeah temperature practice some new jokes and it's gonna be super fun that's awesome I'm happy for like go through my material, launch a show in like a warm space. Take the temperature. Practice some new jokes. And it's going to be super fun. That's awesome.

I'm happy for everyone who got tickets. It was just a surprise for all of us, I guess. Well, don't worry. Like I care about you, so I got you a ticket. We were all really surprised. No, for sure. I guess I really did forget to tell you guys. But like it was in my mind just like not important.

No, I'm like I forget to tell people important stuff all the time. Yeah. Don't hold it against me. It happens to me and Ben all the time it happens to me and Zach that's what I'm talking about I think it's because like you're like my husband in a lot of ways like and so I don't know like something major will happen and I'll let it I'll literally guess I Ben I'm like no I told you no this is why we don't tell our husbands and I've thought about it but it's hard they still Zach won't accept this. But when I first hear about something that would be like an amazing opportunity for us, when it first comes across my desk, I'm not telling anyone, we're not telling people about

it because it hasn't happened yet. Right. So then by the time it actually is happening. You forgot. It's not new to us. It's not like, oh, I need to tell you this thing. But if I told you about every maybe exciting thing that happened, you'd be disappointed as often as I am.

So fucking true. And also, you can't tell someone something exciting and big before it happens because otherwise you'll jinx it. Dang it. That's a brilliant assessment of how we got here. So by the time it happens, it's old news to me. Right. No, that's true.

So that's why you don't tell him. I forget to tell Ben's like major things all the time. Same. Or like if I'm going somewhere, like literally on my way to the airport, I'll be like, where are you going? I'm like, I told you I'm going to Coachella. Like, you know. Oh, that's a little crazy.

I know. But no, that's the reason why. Yeah, that's good. There's never a moment where it's like, okay, it's safe to tell people and this is still new to us. Yeah, so true. It's like, where have you been?

That was six months ago. We found out. Keep up. So yeah, tour kicks off soon. Tickets available at girlthontop.com slash tour. I have to say, pretty much all my shows are like sold out or like they're eight months away and like they will be sold out except for Detroit. So I just really need the Detroit Toasters.

I chose Detroit, handpicked Detroit because the last time I was there, they put me at this enormous venue and I'm like guys what are you doing they're like just trust us and I did trust them and it sold out immediately it was one of my biggest shows on the last tour which is so random

so I'm like I've got to show love to my Detroitsters Detroitsters oh that's good and literally like I need you guys to sell the show out or just like buy some tickets

okay Detroit girlmojob.com slash tour if you haven't gotten a ticket to a tour and like you want to see some friends, maybe like a weekend in Detroit.

Make it a weekend. You know, the last time I was in Detroit, I stayed at this sickening casino called Motor City Casino. It's like a gorgeous affair. Like spend the weekend there. Cool. That sounds fun. But other than that, I'm all set.

I'm all set. We can jump right in. We have some good stories today. We have dear toasters. So let's just, without further ado, head into the Fast Five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. I just want to say we're like now at that period in life

where it's fucking hot in the studio because it's like cold outside. So the heat is on in here and I'm going to be start showing up in t-shirts and I don't want to hear from anyone. Okay. Okay. Just want to let you know the heat is not on.

It is so fucking hot in here. I felt this way yesterday. I think what it is, is it's's nice outside it's like 50 degrees according to weather snitch there's no heat or AC on I'm hot so you're just like in a room I'm like sticky and I'm not happy about it I'm sorry I'm actually perfectly comfortable but you know what I am happy about you look perfectly comfortable what What's that from? The cotton commercials where... Yes. That's such a specific reference.

I thought that was like an iconic like legally blonde moment, you know? The cotton commercial? Okay. Where is neckline? You really have been like staying at home a lot watching TV. Today's episode is brought to you by Public Rec. We all settle for traditional retail sizes, but why? What does a medium person look like?

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at Travis Scott's Astroworld concert festival on Friday. She said, absolutely heartbroken for the lives who were lost and anyone who was hurt at Astroworld. Just like all of you, our family is in shock by the tragedy. We are keeping all of the victims, families, and loved ones impacted in our prayers for healing, as well as Travis, who we know cares so much about his fans and is truly devastated. So Khloe reposted that statement, and then Kendall put out a statement of her own.

As did Drake. As did Drake, yes. Yeah. I find it interesting that, like, people, like, and we spoke about this yesterday, people are really looking at the Kardashians here, like keeping a microscope on them, like seeing what they'll do and feeling like they're partially to blame, which I just don't agree with.

Well, yeah. And I think there's a difference between like Kylie and Kendall's response because they were there versus the rest of the family was in LA celebrating Kris's birthday. Right. And I think for a lot of people,

it was in their minds, like a little out of touch for them to be like posting all these videos all weekend, like flowers while all of this was going down so I am glad that they released a statement but again it's not it's I mean it's just a sad thing that happened in general to the world like we should all be talking about it we should all be like thinking about it so I think like them releasing a statement is great but again I think people are just like really wanting to hear from Kylie yeah and I this and it was nice

that they shared and I'm sure it's affected their their whole family because it's affected Kylie and you know they're all one big unit um but again I mean people who are waiting to hear from the Kardashians and like on this it's like it's a little far removed yeah no I think so too honestly I was curious to hear what Drake was going to say because Drake was there and the the climax of the show was when Drake came out and Drake did release something I think yesterday or last night um just kind of saying how he hates putting things on Instagram but like that's the way that's and he's just like praying and and I just think um I don't know I don't know where we go from here I don't know like where we're who we're blaming what's going on but I actually did hear something interesting about the whole ticket refund.

Oh, what did you hear? And like there are people, like lawyers are warning certain people maybe not to accept the refund. Because if you read the terms and conditions, you're like agreeing to not litigate or not sue. So just like to be really careful of accepting the refund. Oh, that's interesting. A lot of the concert goers have already started the lawsuit process there are like two big lawyers in Houston who are representing a lot of different people also I saw yesterday Travis is partnering with BetterHelp to get like mental health services for the people who like who experience it because

like not only were there the physical injuries hundreds of them but so many people saw terrible things bodies like awful awful things and even to just but even if you didn't see that stuff and just knowing that you were at a concert where yeah it's it's very taxing it's a lot to process so he is um trying to help people get that sort of help. Okay, I actually think that's good. Yeah, it's just like the conversations people are having and just like what's been going on. It's really, I just can't get over how crazy it is that this whole thing happened in general. Yeah, and then I'm sure you saw yesterday,

but one of the people who is critically injured in a coma was a nine-year-old boy. Yes, I did. And I saw a picture of him and he was really cute. And it's so sad. It's so sad. And did they identify that person? I didn't see it, but I really hope so. That's such a terrible way to find out that like your son or your brother passed away. Yeah. It's just everything that keeps coming out about this story is more horrible than the next. And I think people are really angry and they're looking for a place to direct their anger. And like, I understand that I do. do yeah and I think that there's a lot of places where anger needs to

be directed yeah because it's like uh it was just a storm of a lot of different ingredients that need to be looked at going forward and just as a society yeah you know it's I just I like I still can't believe that this happened and And it's just, it's the craziest thing. And I know I keep saying that, but it's, like, the only thing. It's just insane. Yeah. And I just feel really sad. So I hope everything, I hope everyone who sues gets what they need. Like, for real. Yeah. Agreed. Okay, our next story. Switching gears. Jeff Bezos tweets Leonardo Leonardo DiCaprio a titanic-sized

threat after girlfriend Lauren Sanchez swoons over the actor okay this is actually funny so as you guys probably saw this video it's on our Instagram so go watch it if you haven't yet of Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez meeting Leo at the LACMA art and film gala in LA and Lauren is all about Leo yeah it's a really interesting video um just like reading the body language it's just so interesting like Leo can't get away from Lauren fast enough Lauren is like licking her lips like nestling in his armpit it's giving Ramona it's giving Ramona Singer yes that's like if you guys watch Roni, like imagine. You know how she flirts.

Leo is Harry Dubin. Lauren is Ramona. And it's the eyes. And it's the like. Jackie, that is so fucking true. Oh, Liam. Yes, literally. So the internet was obviously, you know.

A blaze. A blaze with this video. Barstool posted Leo is Mr. Steal Your Girl. And then Jeff Beos wrote on monday he posted a picture leaning over a sign that says danger steep steep cliff fatal drop and he said leo come over here i want to show you something it's actually a really funny response that is so funny that you find it so funny oh you know what like that he got a laugh out loud from you because i mean i've seen this a hundred times and like i was like oh he's like a weenie but then somewhat sometimes like the way you read it just made me

laugh yeah i mean you know what jeff bezos like i don't know him at all no like every time you don't like every time his personality comes through i'm just like who is this man like yeah what is this man when you saw him laughing like before he went to space he was like when he was wearing cowboy boots with his space suit like I just every time he does something it's so radically different from like who I thought he would be and this is just another iteration of that I love people who can laugh at themselves and who can like get in on the joke and are good sports and to me this is like the perfect example of it like literally his girlfriend is like drooling over Leonardo DiCaprio like he makes a joke about

it because like even if you're the richest man in the world like Leonardo DiCaprio is Leonardo DiCaprio and I just thought this was like you know what I actually I really like this response you respect it I do yeah I do I do too like everyone was laughing at him and now they're laughing with him yeah because otherwise that video was just sad yikes yikes bikes like it was painful but knowing like he thinks it's funny like yeah of course like I'm the richest man in the world and even I can't keep a woman away from Leonardo like that's funny yeah I agree and I really have respect for this response like it's funny that's okay cool

yeah and like some good news for Jeff Bezos when you're a billionaire like you don't have to respond to like moronic internet viral content culture but he did and it was funny and he he came out on top yeah do you think now that I've been watching Succession and like watching Kendall Roy try and like get fire tweets out you know that's like part of his. It's so sad. Strategy, like hiring all these people to write like cool takes. Yeah. Do you think that he had like a team of people who submitted responses to him and he chose the best one?

It's possible when you're that rich, but it's really giving me like dad humor. Like organic. Yeah. Like he had the picture in his phone. He's like waiting to use it. Like I don't think he took that picture today. It's like from, you know, one of him and Lauren's trips. Yeah. Like he had the picture in his phone. He's like waiting to use it. Like, because I don't think he took that picture today. It's like from, you know, one of him and Lauren's trips. Yeah.

And you know what? This whole thing just reminded me that him and Lauren are still together. I know. Like they were such big news. National Enquirer. I want to get drunk with you. Not too drunk. Read the newspaper in the morning.

His texts were leaked. It was so embarrassing. And then they kind of like disappeared. So I'm like, well, did that whole scandal break them or are they still together and I just never really followed up on it but now I know for sure that they are still together and I went this whole moment caused me to go find her Instagram and it's so interesting I've been there before it's so like it's giving trophy wife it is and it's amazing yeah no they're kind of cute yeah I don't know.

I'm like not entirely not here for it, you know? Yeah. No, and the proof is in the pudding, as we always say. It's been a long time because we reported on those texts like in the old, old studio. Yeah. So it's like two years at least. And I want to get drunk with you. But not too drunk.

Oh, no. No. I just want to wake up and read the newspaper with you. Oh, no. Now that I'm like getting to know Jeff and I read those texts, like it's kind of sweet. No. I just want to wake up and read the newspaper with you. Oh, no. Now that I'm getting to know Jeff and I read those texts, it's kind of sweet. Yeah. No, Jeff, do your thing. Do your thing.

Don't let the haters stop you. Don't let the haters stop you. Yes. But do you also think he's encroaching on Elon Musk's vibe a little bit? No. Like quirky, funny guy? No, because Elon has a a very definite like personality. Like we know Elon 100%.

Jeff Bezos is kind of like the gift that keeps on giving. Like we never know what we're going to get. It's like a box of chocolates. I feel like if it wasn't for Elon he wouldn't lean into this side of himself so much. Obviously. Elon's had so much success. But he wants to be like the affable billionaire. Yeah.

And he's not going to be because like we can smell his desperation from New York, but we do appreciate the effort. Yeah, and it's, they're landing. These things are landing, so it's going well. So now I'm thinking like maybe he does have a team of people writing tweets for him. I do think that he does. And I think that he's always, you know,

one step behind Elon. Yeah. Whereas like no one has the keys to Elon's Twitter. Like it's all Elon. No one is giving Elon cool takes for Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah. Carol Baskin says she joined. Enough. No, no, no. But I thought this story was interesting. Can you just give it a minute? I'll give it a minute. Carol Baskin says she joined a secret support group for traumatized celebrities.

Oh, I haven't been invited. Carol Baskin, who was accused in the 2020 documentary series of having murdered her husband and fed his body to exotic cats, claims that there is a secret support group for A-listers traumatized by the trials of fame. Well, she's being kicked out now for telling people. Yeah, or maybe she like stopped attending. She said that she was invited to join it after the Tiger King phenomenon made her into a public pariah. She said on a podcast that as the Netflix show was becoming a smash hit

and she was turning into a household name, somebody reached out to her and said, quote, I have this group of celebrities and we meet or before COVID we would meet. I forget what day it was that they met each week, but they would meet once a week and they'd all get together and they'd talk about what it was like to live their lives.

She said, and I can see why why now why celebrities run around in dark glasses and scarves and ducking like they're running from the law from one place to another because it's just it's overwhelming to just be constantly surrounded by people she wouldn't say who the members of the group were but she said there were 21 or 22 people and that there were only three or four people in the group that she didn't recognize and that was only because they were sports personalities and she's not she doesn't keep up with athletes okay you know what like this does sound like something that would exist i don't know if like if it's actually that cool would they actually invite carol baskin but it does kind of bring something up like about carol

baskin i know you didn't watch tiger king but like homegirl was villainized when at the end of the day there's literally no actual proof or evidence police wise that she killed her husband and two like at the end of the day she was the literally no actual proof or evidence police-wise that she killed her husband. And two, like at the end of the day, she was the only person in that documentary who gave a shit about the tigers. Like she was the one running a sanctuary. The others were the ones like keeping them in cages, like stealing their sperm to like make more. So like low key, we're all like Joe Exotic, haha.

Like it's actually a really unethical story. Like Joe Exotic did not care about the animals. Like he kept them in zoos. Whereas Carol was rescuing and taking care of all the animals that these morons like joe exotic were doing bringing them over from like africa so yeah they made her into a murderer when low-key she didn't murder anyone allegedly there's no proof yeah it she could have but there's no proof but it's circumspect right so like there's no proof that she so she really did get like the short end of the stick and she like got turned into a joke like remember that prankster who like

thought she was gonna she thought she was gonna be on Jimmy Fallon these youtubers pranked her into thinking like she was like a national joke I'm like I do feel bad for her when like low-key she just cares about the animals yeah so the fact that this group could exist like does make sense to me and now I'm dying to be invited yeah like who else do you think what's the criteria because I'll I'll expose myself a little bit like get another cancellation just to be invited yeah say something crazy it's like if it's a-listers would they really reach out to like someone going through it I guess Tiger King was the biggest show of the year so that would make Carole Bastian an a-lister no but it would make her like a momentary A-lister. Yeah. And maybe like if the people in the group, you know, they saw what she was going through, they were like,

let's have her in. Yeah. That's so interesting. Cause like the thing is when you ask pretty much anyone in Hollywood, I was just reading a tweet, but Dakota Johnson did an interview and she was asked or she spoke about how like she's worked with a lot of people who have been canceled and they were naming like Armie Hammer and Casey Affle Affleck I think okay and she was just like cancel culture blah blah like people in Hollywood like do not subscribe to like cancellations even though like you think that they would yes and no because I do feel like maybe in their hearts it's like they might not cut this person out of their life, but then they go public and they're like, I don't agree with what so-and-so did. And like, they've just got to throw each other under the bus.

Yeah. Like the industry just calls for that. But whenever any person in Hollywood is asked about like cancellations and just cancel culture in general, they're like vehemently against it. Right. Of course, you won't hear anyone say like, I am for the cancellations. But then like, everyone's like I'm against cancel culture but yeah totally but what but I would just love to know who's in this group like if

it's in fact true and it is in fact a list yeah no it definitely gives you something to think about but if it's a secret society like and she's talking about on a podcast the first rule of fight club is don't talk about fight club so yeah no she probably won't be invited back yeah but like she didn't know you know no I think she probably did but maybe she stopped going maybe she's healed yeah I hope so I really I wish healing I will pray for her I really will yeah it just makes you think about it in a different way doesn't it it does and you know what like those stupid documentaries like about nothing like they just take a side you know and this documentary was like so clearly anti-Carol Baskin. But you know what?

Carol Baskin, in my eyes and in the eyes of the law, has done nothing wrong yet. So let's just keep that in mind. Thank you, Claudia. Are you ready for our next story? Only if it's brought to you by Home Medics. I know you're obsessed, Jackie. I am.

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Fans are demanding that James Corden be kept out of the Wicked movie. Yes, I saw change.org is quaking. Aspiring Glendas and Alphabos across the nation are putting their differences aside and joining forces to ask that James Corden be kept as far away from Oz as possible. A change.org petition demanding that Corden be left out of Universal's Wicked movie launched over the weekend and has amassed more than 34,000 signatures. They say the request is simple. James Corden in no way shape or form

should be in or near the production of the Wicked movie. That's pretty much it. Okay so I feel two ways about this. Okay me too because one I saw this headline funny. Okay I'm laughing sure. Yeah no and actually like James Corden like has actually not been in a successful musical so like for the sake of the like the curse I do think he should be left out but it's also really mean it's so mean and like why does it have to be like for like why does someone have to get so propped up we're all obsessed with James Corden host this host that be in this be in that and then like we just decide that it's getting a little much for us when we're the ones who were consuming overexposure carpool karaoke and then it has to

be a change.org petition yeah no this no, this is like the cycle of celebrity fandom and how toxic it is. It's giving Anne Hathaway. It's giving Anne Hathaway 100%. And it's just the way we treated Anne wasn't right back then. No, you're right. And she has fucking trauma. We need to learn from that.

No, you're 100% right. But like also, I don't want him in the movie. So like, what do we do about that? No, I'm being dead serious. Yeah. But maybe that's just because I've been conditioned to find him annoying because like partially because he is annoying and partially because like people just are like how annoying is this video of James Corden I'm like yeah I guess it is annoying I don't but if you followed anyone around and like videoed the annoying things that they did like my god anyone would become hated yes I agree it's just really mean like this is just like mean like james's feelings

no and it's just we need to do better like i know when it's a it's a cycle you know i i so i understand why james has never hurt anyone i understand why people wouldn't want james in the movie not only do i understand i support it but this is wrong I agree it's really mean like he's not a bad person no he's not and he's just like a musical fanatic yeah and he actually he's like a good singer but he does like really crazy stuff like now I'm thinking about like when they were promoting Cinderella yes and the video of him pumping his crotch at the car yeah I know I saw I literally saw yesterday on TikTok and I think like it's but so maybe this is a moment for james to reflect yeah and be like okay why am i the way that i am

no like there's things that are good like the carpool karaoke is good like him on that plane with kanye so good so we need to make a pros and cons list of james's work yeah and we need to start trimming away the things that are rubbing people the wrong way. Spilling your guts is good. Yes. Yeah, except I actually did see there was a petition about that too, because it's like insensitive, because a lot of those are like cultural foods and like you're calling them gross.

So maybe you just need to switch up the foods. But I think conceptually it's a good way to get celebrities to spill tea. Yeah, I think as a late night host, he's good. I think his show is like popular. Yeah. Celebrities love him. I would keep that in the pros column. Ari loves him. That's the thing. He's good. I think his show is like popular. Yeah. Celebrities love him. I would keep that in the pros column.

Ari loves him. That's the thing. Yeah, no, and he has access to all these celebrities because they just like love him as a person. Him and,

he went on vacation with Harry Styles and Adele. Yeah. And everyone was tagging me. He gave Adele a piece of gum that was chewed by Celine Dion or something like that.

Yes, it was in her 73 questions. Yes, yes. Okay, so those are the pros. And I think that's really good. And he's also good at hosting award shows. Very good. You know, cons. Obviously, stopping the music, stopping the streets and...

Doing music. And you know what? I think I've just kind of put it together because you just made a really good point. Like, he really thrives. And this is him as just being a good host. He thrives in environments that are not about him. Like, he's interviewing celebrities. he's giving other people awards where it gets muddy is when he is becoming like the star like in cats like that's where it gets difficult because he's like

more of like a background he's perfect as a background piece but then when he becomes a star in certain movies and musicals that's where it gets dicey, in my opinion. But I just feel like Cats was doomed with or without James Corden. Yeah. See, like, people were annoyed that he was in The Friends reunion, but he was actually excellent. He didn't insert himself too much. It was about the six characters. I thought he was very good in that.

Yeah. And what he did in Cinderella was wrong. I agree. Was very wrong. He made it all about him. Wait, was he in Cinderella? He was in Cinderella. He played one of the mice that turns into a footman and when they became footmen like they literally had 10 minutes worth of scenes. Jackie. Of them figuring out like oh how do I pee?

Jackie this is so random but we have to just I have to tell you something and then we'll go back to talking about this. You just reminded me of it. Okay. You said foot man. Okay. At the Potomac reunion, I believe it was Ashley Darby who said, I put my foot in it. I know.

Jackie, she quoted you via the Proud Family. Mm-hmm. Okay, I just had to, I was wanting to tell you She was quoting Sugar Mama,

I believe. I believe too. She put her, what was she talking about? The coffee and music video. Yes! Coffee and, what was that movie? Love? Something called? Coffee and Love, maybe. Yes. She, amount the coffee and music video yes coffee and was it love song called coffee and love baby yes she put her foot in it okay thank you back to james corden so yes i did not know he was in

cinderella if you saw i thought he was just helping her promote it in that vile way no he was he was in it too okay so yeah i think we've actually cracked the james corden code once again free ideas here for james corden and his team i think that him wanting to go beyond his abilities like as a host are what's rubbing people the wrong way no and like hollywood just has this problem where like something's working okay we're gonna throw it at everything and it's like we are fatigued and you're ruining james corden he's a talented man yeah we've liked him for so long. You've got to pull back the reins.

Jackie, that's so true. They literally like find something that people like, like Americans, and they just like shove that person down our throats. Right. Meghan Trainor. Right. And so it's got to stop. But a change.org petition like is a little.

It's mean. It's bullying. It's too much. No. And I think that like we operate in this world where like we think celebrities don't have feelings. But like what if James literally read that like he did that would hurt his feelings he definitely read it yeah I think it's mean I think he may be laughed though yeah I don't know if he's in on the joke he should get in on the joke I think that's actually would be a great way

for him to get out of this rut he's currently in like but I could see him like in on the joke and then like going home and and crying himself sleep. A hundred percent. He's a sensitive man. He's British. Like I, I completely agree. Yeah. But I just think for his image, like if he got in on the joke and started doing like stories on late night

about like the petition, like people would respect him much like Jeff Bezos. Yeah. He should do a story about the petition. Um, I just, we need to, there needs to be a line you guys.

Yeah. And it was crossed. A hundred percent. I do think. But I fully support the message of the petition. He could have a little part. No, there's no such thing as a little part for James Corden. No, when you're James Corden, there are no small parts.

No. He's going to make it. Just small actors. He's going to make it a big part. A hundred percent. Oh my God. But I could totally see him being like the lion. Lion?

Because it's like Wizard of Oz. There's a lion in Wicked? I'm pretty sure. Maybe not. I heard that he had already been cast, but I heard that prematurely as doctor, like the professor. Interesting.

Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story, which is some content news that I find to be exciting? It's the final story which is some content news that I find to be exciting. It's the final story! James Corden, please don't cry. That's beautiful. Okay, our fifth and final story is some exciting news. Amazon is launching a new series called The Faragnes,

starring Chiara Faragni and Fadez and their whole family. You're kidding. Not kidding. They are Prime Video's newest reality tv family that's fabulous show will premiere in december it filmed throughout their wedding no no it filmed throughout late 2020 and early 2021 while she was pregnant while fedez is preparing for a music festival that he's doing no kiara feragni was like the og fashion blog. She turned her brand into like a billion dollar business. She's the most iconic fashion influencer. I don't even think she's an influencer anymore.

Like she used to be the blonde salad. Remember? She still does influencer tings. But she's just like so rich. But she's also just like the face of Louis Vuitton. Right. Like she's just a celebrity. And she's Italian.

And she married an Italian pop star, Fedez. And they are just like the biggest thing in Milan. They had a baby. Their wedding was like literally a carnival. It was crazy. She has two sisters who are also influencers. And the whole family is, it's keeping up with the Fragnas. I love it.

And Fragnas is Frogme and Fedez. Their names put together. That was their wedding hashtag. Their wedding hashtag, the Fragnas. So that's the name of the show because it's, you know, about their family, which is, I think this is going to be amazing. No, I think this is groundbreaking like honestly Amazon has been really slacking in their content recently like I don't remember anything like when we watch viral

shows like that everyone's watching none of it has been on Amazon in a really long time like they needed this win and it's I'm so gonna watch this. Yeah also her she had a documentary a few years ago. Yeah. That is also on Prime Video was like Chiara Frogme unposted and that was pretty good so i think this is just going to be great i feel like she's had i mean every year is so busy for her but especially in the last year like she gave birth so it's going to be chronicling chronicling her pregnancy but like she never slowed down for one fucking second no she's iconic she's iconic she has amazing style she has like access to like the coolest designer people places things in the

world i think this is going to be an amazing show. And for the promo shoot, Dave LaChapelle shot the art in front of the Duomo in Milan. The Duomo. Just sickening. That is sickening. This is just. No, the Duomo's in Florence. Oh, yeah.

I've actually been. That is true. That's what I meant. Because I know that from the Medici. Oh, I know it because I've been there. And I didn't climb the stairs because it was so hot. And I like left my friends halfway. Oh.

And I got gelato. This is a great idea. I'm very excited. I'm definitely going to be watching it. And I just want to like really, I'm so curious about like her business. Like that's what I would love to know more about. Like what does she do? Like how does she make money?

Like everything. I mean, how does she not make money yeah and also so she has a brand which like a lot of influencers and celebs have brands but like her shit is so cute yeah like the eyes the shoes so so cute yeah I think I used to have a pair of her loafers yeah and she actually just came out with a line of jewelry that was so cute and all sold out oh but it was sickening stuff and she's just like the true definition of like a global lifestyle brand like she's literally global she is an international lifestyle beauty fashion brand yeah it's gonna be a really good show yeah so i'm excited about that um okay well those were the past five feels so you needed to know them and we're not even close to being done because

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Okay, Dear Toasters, our advice segment we do every Tuesday here at the Morning Toast. If you ever want to email us your submission, it's deartoasters at gmail.com. You can change people's names. We will always keep you anonymous. And just let us know how you're doing.

All right, first up. Hello, Claudia, Jackie, Theo, and Bruno. First of all, I love you both so much. Jackie, congrats on the bibic, and Claude, congrats on the tour. You guys are my favorites. My best friend and I literally dressed as you guys for Halloween this year. She said you reposted her. Oh, have fun.

Okay. We got some good costumes this year. I have a close-knit group of nine girlfriends from high school. Most of us live in different cities now, but have been best friends for about 10 years now. We're all meeting in Houston to go to your show, Claudia. Oh my God, yes. The first of us got engaged in September and immediately let us know that they had already booked a baller venue in Houston on the evening of October 1st, 2022. It's going to be one of those big fat Greek weddings that I would die if I missed. Not to mention we are all obsessed with her fiance and love her

family like it's our own. Now for the conflict. Halloween morning, my mom sent a text in our family group text. My only girl cousin had just gotten engaged. I immediately squealed and sent my cousin multiple congratulatory texts to which she responded, make sure you are free on October 1st, October 2022. Fuckity, fuck, fuck, fuck. I responded with, oh no, one of my best friends is getting married that day, to which she responded, wait, is that a joke? LOL. Oh God, oh god my god she's already a bridezilla my cousin and i are not super close she estranged herself from our entire family for about three years it was truly the strangest thing but all is well now thankfully she told me that she is planning a smaller wedding at our family's lake house about an hour outside houston i would go if there wasn't another wedding that day but it feels

strange that i have to justify going to one wedding over another. On the one hand, I don't want to miss out on being with my family at my cousin's wedding. Think of the family portraits that I won't be in. But I would also have the most FOMO-iest FOMO ever if I missed out on my friend's wedding that same day. What should I do? I feel guilty for pulling the I heard about this wedding first and it's going to be more fun card. But I also know that family is family and I would hurt,

I would be hurt if my only girl cousin didn't come to my wedding whenever that will be but I also love my friend like family and would be equally sad if she wasn't there at my big day either sincerely help oh I don't fucking know I don't know honestly like life is about doing the things you want to do and you want to go to your friend's wedding and I just think you should go I know that sounds terrible because family is everything either way someone's going to be disappointed you're going to be missing out on something so just go to the one that you would rather go to. Like, at least, just, there's no right answer. And there's no wrong answer.

Like, you can only go to one. Just make a choice. Obviously, you should probably, like, do the family first. But, like, for some reason, it's just you didn't sell it. Yeah, no, you didn't sell it at all. Like, because we're so family. Like, always, like, even if it sucks, like, you go to the family thing. But I don't know. I'm just, like didn't sell it. Yeah, no, you didn't sell it at all. Like, cause we're so family. Like always, like even if it sucks, like you go to the family thing. But I don't know.

I'm just like not feeling convinced. And I think that you should go to your friend's wedding. Yeah, I think you should really look inward on this one. There's no magical answer how to make everyone happy here. Right, you can't do both. They're an hour away. They're the same day. You can't do both.

So you really just need to choose. Yeah, and whichever one you were to choose, like there's going to be repercussions repercussions so you just have to make a choice and you know if you do choose your friend's wedding like you just need to know like can you live with that decision like it'll like you'll always be gone from the pictures are you I don't need to know more about the relationship with this cousin like you were estranged for three years but like are you guys super close now she said we're close she said no she said we're not super close no but she didn't say super close but she did say things are good i do think she was trying to like downplay it so that we would tell her to go to her friend's wedding that's what she wants to hear she said

my cousin and i aren't super close she estranged herself from our entire family for about three years because that's what you want to hear because that's what you want to do so just do what you want to do and just deal with the consequences yeah i think in like this post-covid world like we should all just be doing what we want to do like life is short short life's too short to like miss out on a really fun wedding yeah I think it's okay I do but also because you literally sold it that way but you have our blessing whatever you decide to do so just know that and if your cousin's upset be like the morning toast don't meet again yeah send her this episode maybe you shouldn't have estranged

yourself from your family for three years if you wanted your cousin to come to your wedding and you can send her this episode so that she can know what it feels like because I think all of the listeners right now don't know what to say to you and like all the listeners are conflicted because family is always first but the way you read this email to us like obviously you should go to your friend's wedding so like you like kind of gaslit us all I don't know I just think that you should just make choice stick with it it sucks regardless but it'll also be fun regardless yeah but like that's not a helpful piece of advice she asked for which wedding to go to and you literally just told her make a decision I told I gave her permission to make whatever decision she wanted yeah that's what I did yeah and you know what sometimes all you need

is a little permission okay next up hello thank you both for brightening my weekdays. Here's a little dating history. I've had a couple serious relationships over three years in my life and then I was single for four years where I probably went on about 30 dates. Some turned semi-serious some didn't make it past the first date. I've lived in the same city for five years and I absolutely love it. My parents are moving here soon and I have amazing friends here. I've been dating a man for two years now who is everything I'd hoped I would find. He is my favorite person in the world, but we are long distance in different states due to his job and other commitments. I only see him a few times a year.

My quandary, I'm so freaking lonely sometimes I feel like I should just date someone in my own city even though I wasn't able to find anyone nearly as compatible in the years I was looking. My boyfriend can't move here because of his work and family. And if he did, it would be 10 plus years down the road. Me moving there is the most probable option, but I have my family here for me and I haven't lived near them since high school. Plus my friends are here and I love the city so much. Help. Do I move? Try it out for a while. And even though his time is still limited, I'd be in a new city chilling on my own. Should I try and find someone in my own city that's less complicated? Thank you in advance for your unfiltered opinions

and thoughtful advice. I truly need it. X, XO, a daily toaster. I just want to say one thing before about this girl. That's the only thing that's concerning me is like kind of the way you're writing this email. You're like really analytical, like you're a data analyst. Well, I dated here and we had X compatibility. And now we have this man with Y compatibility, but the distance is Y over X.

But listen, you know what? I'm not going to fault you for being a rational thinker. You know, you could put a little more feeling into it. Yeah, it's love. But some people like lead only with their feelings and don't use their head at all. And that's chaotic. And that's chaotic too.

Like someone who would jump from like city to city, just like, so I, I'm not going to fault you too much, but I agree. But my advice would be like, put your heart into it a little bit. Like does the idea of moving and being with your boyfriend make you so happy that it can forego the fact that you're not in your family anymore? Or does the idea of going to find someone new in your own city

and breaking up with your current boyfriend break your heart? Like I need to know how you're feeling. What do you love more? Like your hometown, your family, and your friends? Or this man? And I'm just not getting any like feelings from from you I don't know how you feel do you love this man or she said that they're really like that this is the guy it's giving robot it is giving road robot but like she's giving facts you know which is super super helpful especially in a deer toasters because we're always like

looking for you know supplementary facts but I mean just the idea of you moving to be with him like this better be the greatest love of all time or else you're setting yourself up for failure no friends like no family he works all the time like but if this is your person your soulmate like you go there and you start your new life and you start a family and yeah right you make your own life like right your kids are you can't live for your high school friends and your hometown. But do you love this man? That I didn't gather. Do you love him more than your hometown?

It sounds like you ran a compatibility test on the internet when we used to do it with your kids. It's like Claudia and Maverick, 98% compatible. Yeah. But sometimes I can love you more than my hometown. So true. Also. So, and that's apparently a normal position to have so yeah I just need more information from you like from your heart like where is your heart in this I think you need to look inward that's two for two I'm looking inward today and put aside the charts

and data points yeah close your laptop close your laptop and just ruminate in your feelings. Close your laptop, close your eyes, and open your heart. Yeah. I don't know how maybe a drink maybe could do that. Yeah, you seem like someone who's not overly emotional, which I love. Because I think sometimes when people write us in, like, they're so led by emotion and, like, not rational. But I think actually the pendulum has swung the other way. Like, I could use a little I love this man something.

Like, some emotion. Yeah. That's all I need so I'd actually but you can't keep doing like this where you're like you're lonely because she but like she she did say that that you know she's lonely without him so and that either you guys have to break up or you have to move there sorry yeah I agree the way it's going now it's not gonna work no it's making me sad okay final one dear Claudia final one. Dear Claudia and Jackie, first-time writer, long-time toaster here, I have a very complicated family problem that I would love to get your input on. My family is super close, so close that my sister-in-law has become my absolute best friend and the sister that I never had.

I do have an actual sister, but we're not as close. That's so mean. That's so mean. That is so mean. Anyways, this sister-in-law, Mary-Kate, has a twin sister, Ashley. Stop. Ashley has also become our adopted sister-in-law and also best friend. The three of us have had babies together, got married together,

have been there through good and bad for each other. We celebrate all holidays and birthdays together with our families, usually always at my parents' house. That's like nice, but weird, but nice. Yeah. Well, Mary-Kate has recently filed for divorce from my brother. Dev brother devastated isn't even a strong enough word to describe how we all feel it feels like our entire family is going through the big divorce we were all blindsided my brother included no one did anything bad they just weren't meant to be according to mary kate though i understand

why she wants a divorce i'm heartbroken i feel like i've lost my sister and best friend i feel like i'm losing ashley as well i can't imagine imagine not seeing Ashley's kids grow up and I can't imagine Ashley and Mary Kate not seeing my kids grow up or be in my life we literally talk to each other all day every day I'm so torn I feel obligated to my brother to back off from Mary Kate and also Ashley by association but they are truly my best friends and my sisters Ashley's kids think that my parents are their grandparents and my parents see her kids as their grandchildren what would you do if you were in my situation would you continue your relationship with Mary Kate and Ashley would you back off for a while I don't want to hurt my brother's feelings but I don't want to I don't want to lose these girls they're my best friends and support system

please help sincerely a heartbroken sister-in-law oh my god that's so sad but you know what the good thing is that your brother and Mary Kate still have kids together so this girl will be in your life forever. Yeah. And it's so fresh right now that I think like you should take a step back, just like support your brother, but they'll get to a place where they can co-parent and you'll all be family. And you'll still do holidays together with your new spouses.

Cause you have kids together. Yeah. So if your family is as open and warm as they sound, I think that right now it's awkward and you should be there for your brother. But in a year's time, like I actually think because they have kids together, you guys will still be seeing each other a lot and it'll be okay and acceptable for you to be super close yeah I would say if as long as the divorce proceedings

are going amicably like I don't know why things have to change that much and just talk to your brother about it and make sure that he's okay with that and that like I think the brother it sounds like is gonna need time like he was completely blindsided by her wanting to get divorced oh that's what I felt like that he's heartbroken not angry but like so it's like okay if you take a step back to be there for your brother that will affect your relationship with Mary Kate like because you chose sides and it wasn't hers and she's your best friend but of course you have to choose a brother but maybe one day Mary Kate gets married to a new man and that could be like the brother you never had no I'm kidding this is really really hard I would just

I would keep in touch with everyone keep tabs on everyone make sure your brother feels supported and I think you can still talk to Mary Kate and Ashley as long as things aren't contentious in the divorce and then you'd have to make a hard choice yeah but try and keep everyone together yeah try and it's on you because you have put yourself in this position as being like the sister-in-law of all sister-in-laws and you know who's having the last laugh your sister literally like so completely unaffected your actual sister completely unaffected by this like oh you chose strangers yeah that's what you get literally oh my god that is so funny um no but that is quite a pickle like i'm sorry'm sorry, but you got to stay with family, but do your best to keep everyone like, don't let it get dark.

Divorce gets dark so quickly. Yeah. You got like, if you want to keep the family together, like you, you're going to have to put in the work. It's on you. And you're going to make sure everyone's communicating that, like that no fight goes fester. It's like, but I think it's worth it because this family unit

that you're describing is so beautiful. And it's also worth it for Mary Kate and your brother's's kids like you want them to have like a good and nothing should change for the kids really yeah so you can always say like well the kids have to see each other so mary kate like let's go get tranks yeah i think it's okay i think you'll it'll get to it's like bad now but i think in a year it'll be totally fine yeah as long as divorce goes well yes i agree so that's a big it just the situation, keep tabs on everything, keep everyone together, and I think you can have your cake and eat it too. Agreed. Thank you to everyone who wrote in to Deer Toasters. Again, if you ever want to write in, it's deertoasters

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