The Toast - S4 Ep204: Pete Asked Kim To The Prom: Friday, November 19th, 2021

Episode Date: November 19, 2021

Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson are officially dating (Page Six) Kaia Gerber and Jacob Elordi break up after 1 year of dating (Page Six) Kathryn Dennis and boyfriend Chleb Ravenell have reportedly broken up (Page Six) Lala Kent Changes Her 'Rand' Tattoo to 'bRand New' After Randall Emmett Breakup (PEOPLE) Jen Shah's fraud case to be explored in new Hulu documentary (Page Six) Book Talk The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the morning toast and happy Friday! Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, weekend. Friday, Friday, getting down on Friday. Oh my god, this might be the best day of my life. Let me tell you why. Please do. Of course, as most things, the answer is layered. One, it's Friday.

Of course. Two, not only is Theo here, he's sitting with me and he got such a fresh haircut yesterday due to, you know, unforeseen circumstances. It has been about two months since he had gotten a haircut. He is looking fresh, feeling good, sitting next to his mummy. Three, I climbed a mountain last night. I accomplished something that I was dreading for literally two years.

I had my first little test run show at City Winery with my amazing Patreon family. And it was a smash. Like, I watched a video I recorded this morning. And I'm really proud of myself. Like, I definitely have work to do. Things I want to you know change, shift, add. But I did it and that's the hardest part. You did the damn thing. Four. It's about to be the weekend and Kay is here. Kay is in town. And I don't know if I've ever felt this positive ever in my life. And might I give you a five? Sure. you're wearing Fendi skims and I'm so fucking jealous because mine has not arrived yet and and this is gonna hurt some people like it's

hurt me but one of my order items was refunded I guess they oversold it and I'm not getting what I ordered even though like I set an alarm I hopped on I secure I secured the bag why me why you I'm trying not to take it personally or be upset because like these things do happen and like of course as someone we run a merch business like things happen and it's terrible like when you're that in demand yeah no so I'm not like taking out on Fendi or Skims or Kim or anyone it's just like um what about me yeah no I feel that 100% I'm really sorry so jealous of your look the sweater looks amazing thank you it's such an interesting material so it's like thick it's thick but it's so stretchy like I love it and when I was on the website I was so verklempt like I didn't know what size to get and the sizing was European

and like I knew it was gonna run out so I was like I'm not gonna look at a size chart I just like press something random you know the bigger the better and it definitely is like two sizes too big but I'm kind of into that look. Yeah. I'm so pleased with my purchase. And I really feel like if I take really good care of it and wear it like as much as I want, in like a year from now, the secondary market could be quaking with this sweater. Yeah. No, the sweater is really cute. I'm feeling like inspired to make an investment in a sweater.

Is it still available? I think so. So when I had gone to the store, they were still there. It reminds me of that Balenciaga cardigan that everyone's been wearing that I've been wanting to get, but it's so expensive. And then I just like got this one, but it's just the same price. Yeah, but you'll do it for Kim. It reminds me of that Balenciaga cardigan that everyone's been wearing that like I've been wanting to get but it's so expensive and then I just like got this one. For Kim of course and this one has like snap buttons. It's really cool. Okay. And just like you know what I'm gonna give my money to the brand that's size inclusive you know. Like in Balenciaga I'd probably have to get the biggest size and I could be like hugging my hips in the back and this one like I'm so tiny. Yeah. I'm swimming in the sweater. Swimming swimming and that's why we respect Kim for literally making like an extra extra extra large on Bendy

which is like never happened in the history of fashion yeah well something that's new with me is I did my hair differently you know I can it's it's like Hailey Bieber sitting across from you yeah it's very Kendall Jenner yeah no Kendall pregnant Kendall Jenner is in the building PKJ but what do you think love it I mean it's brave. I would never wear my hair like that, but you have a skinny face, so like. Not the face, but. You can do things like that. I just like wanted to switch it up, and I'm on my last hair day before a wash. That hair is like emblematic of like skinny privilege.

You know? Yes. Nobody can wear their hair like that unless you have like no fat on your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the part and the bun. The part is so brave. And I need to, like it's my first time doing face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the part and the bun. The part is so brave. And I need to, like it's my first time doing it. I like it a lot.

And I don't have any fucking ponytails because Bruno eats them all. And I'm on my last one and it's already stretched because sometimes he gets to it when I'm in the shower. And so like this is me working with like a shitty ponytail. No, if I only had one piece of recommendation for the next time. Not tight enough. Make your part like really sickening and tight and middle. Like your part's not visible enough. Like people are always showing their part.

Like that's the coolest part. Okay. The coolest part. Is the part. Okay. Thank you for your feedback. But it looks great. I really like it.

Thank you so much. It's crazy to try new things, but there's nothing like a Friday when Kay's in town after your sister's accomplished her goal to try a new hairstyle. That's exactly how I was feeling when I woke up this morning. So was I. So let's talk about you accomplishing your goal

because I know that there's so much that, you know, it's been all encompassing for you. Yeah. So I did my show last night. It was an out of body experience. I was so unbelievably nervous, but the crowd was just like so toasty that I actually was not nervous at all once I got on stage. It was just the before.

And I never tested out the material on anyone besides like friends and family, like via FaceTime, which is just not the same. And it was so great. I mean, I definitely want to make the show longer. That's what, here's some things I picked up last night. I want to make the show longer, really want to like expand on some jokes. Like there were two parts in the show that I think people loved the most and I think I should make them bigger.

You can dive deeper. More physical, longer. Like I think I can do more. But all in all, it was so fun and it was so good. And actually after the show, I was feeling really down, but that's always what I do. Cause I don't remember if I hear people laugh, like I don't acknowledge it. And then, then when I get off stage, I'm like, nobody laughed. And I was feeling really like disappointed in myself that like, I knew I could do better. And I was like, really, I was like up all night, but then I had

someone come film it because I like to watch my shows game tape and this morning I got the tape and I watched it before I came here and I don't like the version I remembered is like not the version I watch like it was so funny I thought I did a great job I was like really really proud of myself so now I'm in the headspace where I'm like oh my god like I killed it like for a first show I mean everyone tells you after like my agents were there like that was great but like what are they gonna say you know that wouldn't that was bad yeah what is Margo gonna say you stunk so you know what she might she might but so like you never really know but so I was really glad that I taped it and now I'm I have another one on Monday I'm thinking maybe I'll do one more in New York like the more practice the better yeah um but I'm like

that first show for me there was three major humps have I said this philosophy yet on the toast I think so three major humps of life of tour oh yes no so far there's only been two okay so the first was selling the tickets and the second is the first show the second was writing the material like coming up with it and the third was doing the show and now I've done all three and you don't understand the weight that has been lifted off my chest. I'm a new woman. Hear me roar. We love it.

We love this new woman energy. So thanks everyone for coming out last night. Thanks for putting up with me on the podcast. I promise I'll stop talking about it now. And we've got a great show for you guys today. We do. I think we need to get into everything. There's so many like news stories that require our take.

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page six is reporting out of nowhere sort of that kim kardashian and p davidson are officially dating yeah like i don't know pete asked her to be his girlfriend and page six had you know spyware in the room i don't understand what this where this article. Well, everyone's been referencing these set of photos. I watched the video there at a grocery store. They're at some shopping center. They get out of the car. They hold hands for a millisecond to walk towards the store, and then they let go of each other's hands.

So is that the officiality? No, no, no. This article is separate from that, where Page Six has exclusively learned that Kim and Pete are dating. The news of their romance like comes from a source who is telling Page Six that they're officially dating. I just don't like we've seen them on dates. Like we knew that they were dating. Everyone's like posting this as if like Pete asked Kim publicly to be his girlfriend.

Yeah. Like I'm just what do you mean? You're telling me. Why is this different? Why is this different from what we've seen them on dates? Yeah. And honestly if there's Kardashian related news and it doesn't come from TMZ like I'm looking at it with like a little really yeah but then I did see the picture of

them holding hands like at the grocery store parking lot but you know it's so crazy there's thousands of pictures of them holding hands at the grocery store when you watch the video they hold hands for a millisecond like a mil how long a second just like they get out of the car they hold hands then they drop hands they get out of the car they come around the sides they hold hands does he get the door for her no and then they drop hands okay but like the amount of pictures you can take in one second yeah well I mean it was really cute and okay so they're dating so they're dating it's so weird to me like I can't get over it I'm I'm I'm gonna go along for the ride because I'm really I am here for it I'm just like so confused yeah I feel that you know yeah but I think Kim's having probably a great time and

that's all we want for her Pete's having a great time amazing so I'm having a good time why wouldn't I have a good time no and you know I feel like Kim has a lot going on with the kids and all of her businesses and the fact that she's with someone who has to be in New York for like a couple days a week is actually probably kind of nice. Oh for sure. I mean well I mean she was literally with someone who had to be in Wyoming for 365 days a year. But that's extreme. But Kim's not the type of girl like Courtney and Travis are together all the time because like Courtney like runs Poosh and has lots of free time to invest in her children, her family, her relationship. And Kim it's like she's a million businesses has to prioritize the kids so it's nice to have a boyfriend who also has other things going on

thing other thing going on yes no he can stand up he's busy he's busy yeah I'm sure he'll be busier now yeah gotta make time yeah so they're dating and um'm so, like, I'm so happy for, you know, you know. I know. I'm so happy. I'm just so confused. I am too. Like, it was. The rollout has been confusing.

It was less confusing when they were being so low-key about it. I agree. But now with the Flavor Flav and these paparazzi pics, like, we a celebrity, if they want to go get coffee privately, like they can do it. It can be done. Most, not all, most paparazzi pictures, the person is aware that they're being photographed or their team maybe set it up. And Kim actually like has her own paparazzi. Yes. I actually learned that a few years ago.

It was crazy. I went to a charity gala where Kim was being honored for the gift of life, bone marrow registry. If you're not in the registry you should be and she came with her own paparazzi and I was like I was leaving and she was leaving at the same time this guy was taking pictures of her and then the guy taking pictures of her gets in her car and I'm like what and I'm like oh it's her own personal paparazzi so she can get her own photos which I actually really respect yeah no it's and they're always premium premium so um but these didn't look like her, you know, payroll photographer. It looked like a true, like, paparazzi in the wild.

Like Splash News. Yeah. Got it. Okay, so we're off to the races, you guys. What if, like, they get married? They won't. No, I know, but, like, let's just play a game. What if?

Beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. What's the age difference? How old is Pete? Pete just turned 28 28 Kim is 41 love it I'm so biased when it comes to age differences like of course well I mean what do you mean because if it was a female who was 28 and well that's a whole other conversation but

like even like okay I think a similar age gap is probably like Harry Styles and Olivia Wilde loathe entirely okay but I feel like that's that bias is fine because at least you're not just doing it based on the gender no no no but you know I would be lying if I said like it's definitely different no but now these days we're coming down harder on the older men who are going for the younger we should like she's 41 he's 28 Jake Gyllenhaal is 40 his girlfriend's 25 that's really not so different yeah no I know it's unacceptable completely unacceptable no I'm all for equality except on the subject the tables are turning I think it's I think it's different like and I really I would like to believe I'm like a real card-carrying feminist

but it's different no but I think that that's what you're being is what I'm saying no because if we're feminists like we're supposed to be equal and then it's wrong for both people because we're equal oh right yeah technically so I don't know what the right thing is but I definitely feel weird if a 40 year old man dates a 25 year old girl I think that's weird and problematic if a 40 year old woman dates a 25 year old guy I'm like get your life 25 is actually just at 40 25 actually yes I agree sorry there's a certain age where like you're still really considered young I think that's 25 and below yeah 25 included and below yeah because the brain is still fully

forming and maybe some people need a few extra days on the fully formed brain I agree yeah but I would be six you're in business yeah I don't think Kim is like taking advantage of Pete no no no I just would be lying if I didn't say like women can date younger men but I don't think men should date younger women like much younger and that's what I said. Okay. And that's that's progress. It just feels different to me. And I'm sorry. I feel like I need to be honest with our listeners. I think you know what for me it really just depends on the people and whether or not I like them. And I'm gonna be honest about that. And every time it's gonna be different. A hundred percent. And I don't have any like hard and fast rules. Like I'm just gonna evaluate the two of you. Based on like

the feelings you give me. 100 100 okay are you ready for our next story it's it's some sad couple news I mean this is I know breakup season we have two big breakups today first Kaya Gerber and Jacob Elordi breakup after one year of dating which is so shocking to me I know because they were just like always giving us the most sickening moments and one because they're so low-key and couples like that usually for me I've found are like founded in real like they have a good foundation of a relationship and they usually last longer and two like when you're both that like gorgeous like what do you even have to fight about I know seriously like no I I can't fathom I'm shocked like for real I I'm saddened no me too this was like a premium A-list low-key gorgeous

fashion couple like I loved everything about it and the very few like red carpet moments we got from them were so sick I think we literally have one from like the LACMA event no but like even these pictures of them like walking down the street like for the Met Gala after party this one at them at the gala in September like that was the best the most iconic like I can't believe that more people aren't like referencing this photo yeah it should be in history books I agree the thing is is now that I've kind of gotten to know Jacob Elordi for a little while I led to believe he's the toxic one that's just a feeling that I have like I think and I don't know this for proof I just it's a vibe I got from the movies I feel like he was really mean to Joey King after they broke up.

And I could just see him being toxic. That's just my opinion. Okay. Based on no facts. I don't see that. But I also not like as in it as you are. I just feel like maybe sometimes when you're so perfect and you're so good, like the two of you, maybe things get a little boring.

You know? Yeah. Because when you're a little, you know, good like the two of you maybe things get a little boring you know yeah because when you're so when you're a little you know like us you got to be funny no you have to make up for it a million times like you have to be the funniest person the smartest person the greatest person most creative embarrassing things that happen that bond you to your partner but when you're just shutting down when the whole world is a catwalk and you're just a supermodel like where are the funny like laughable moments but is that close-minded of us to assume that just because you're beautiful you don't have like quirks but like you don't like like is this biased of us I can't tell it's I mean trust me I'd rather be absolutely gorgeous with nothing going on than like what I am now but agreed obviously so I think that makes it okay obviously we're really questioning like our

double standards today no this is a double standard for sure like that's not nice to say like models have nothing going on but like they don't no kidding I'm kidding I'm totally kidding no but no I hear you like when you're so beautiful like life is so easy for you and like you're famous your parents are famous you're rich your parents are rich what could go wrong yeah I'm just curious and I might be wrong tell me what could go wrong in the life of Kaya Gerber I don't know actually that's like a bad omen to wish on someone that's not what I'm saying no but it's I just don't understand how you and your perfect boyfriend could break up like we talk a lot about how you need adversity in life and I think it must be hard for her to find adversity yeah maybe that's her adversity a lack of adversity maybe this breakup maybe

maybe this is it yeah wishing her the best yeah wishing both of them the best i mean i'm like i just but you know what's exciting is like these are two fabulous gorgeous alice people who are now back on the market and that's like fun for us you know we're talking kaya gerber sean mendez love that jacob alorty camila cameo also cute jacob alorti botcheva kaya gerber ben weinstein i don't see it okay that's cute okay you're right there's a lot of like young hollywood singles now out and about it'll make things interesting at least for the morning toast and i do think like i mean everything in hollywood like they say like it comes in threes but i do think if you're in a hollywood couple and like you saw

that jacob alorti is now single you might get out of your Hollywood couple. And you were like questioning your situation. You know when it rains it pours. And now maybe the floodgates are open. Or like maybe Kaya saw Shawn was finally back on the market and she decided to drop Jacob like the nobody that he is and get over to Shawn Mendes' camp. You never know. You never know. You never know what goes through the mind of a young hot person you know. No I really don't really I will never know okay our next story another couple that has called it quits Catherine Dennis and her boyfriend Caleb Ravenel have reportedly broken up source told us weekly she broke up with him and they are no longer living together there is no bad ill will between them I feel like four out of four couples this week

there's no bad ill will between them well who do you believe I actually really do believe that Camilla and Sean like are still friends. Like I do believe that. Yeah. I don't know if I believe that Kaya and Jacob are gonna like love each other. No I don't think they even said that. And I don't think Batyev and her husband are gonna be on good terms. Yeah what's the point? Then stay married.

Yeah right. Yeah. The source shared that Catherine wants to get married and have more kids and Caleb apparently wasn't on board. Catherine, as we know, currently shares two children with her ex, Thomas Ravenel. And the fact that she was dating someone who was also a Ravenel was the craziest thing to ever happen to the face of the earth. Yeah. I actually, I mean, we didn't get to see that much of their relationship or any of it, maybe

on the show, maybe just at the reunion they talked about it. But like I follow her on Instagram and it seemed like they had such a great cute relationship and they've been together for a long time now so Southern Charm has been off for a while I know but they're filming now okay and I think it's gonna be good and like Naomi goes down and Paige sorry Naomi's sorry Naomi is like filming oh is she yeah she's some of her Instagram stories have like she was at like a dog wedding for like Craig jr and how stupid I know but I'm so glad and Paige has gotten down that's what I mean yeah and I actually think Paige and Naomi are like cool I I would imagine that they are I don't think that Naomi like wants to get back together with no me neither why not all move forward yeah cute yeah

cute but I'm sorry for Catherine I'm sorry for Catherine too I thought this was it for her do you ever feel like Catherine and Shep were like OTP no I feel like Shep always liked Catherine. Everybody always liked Catherine. I also feel, felt that way about Craig. No. I feel like you really, like, protected her as a friend. Yeah.

Like, in a real platonic way. Obviously, Whitney has, like, always been head over heels in love. No, every single, like, the show, the early seasons, all revolve around the fact that every man was in love with Catherine. Yeah, and they were all so mean to her, too. And they couldn't deal with the choice that she made. was in love with Catherine. Yeah. And they were all so mean to her too. And they couldn't deal with the choice that she made. Yeah. I feel that.

Yeah. It was a bizarre choice. It was. But then she also got pregnant so soon that like the choice was made. Yeah. You know, there was no like. That was such a crazy time. It was such a crazy time.

It's honestly such a good show. Yeah. I'm excited for it to come back. Me too. And now with like the page of it all, she's just a star star and I can't wait to see her in South Carolina yeah I was looking at the Sewing Down South Instagram and of course Craig and Paige are really like posting and they're out about sharing and like she's been on the Instagram like with the pillows and stuff it's really cute stop that is so cute yeah she's such a good like fashion girly. Like she could sell those pillows. A hundred percent. She should go on QVC with him.

A hundred percent. A hundred percent. But maybe not mix like. Business with pleasure. You know. So toxic. It's good to have the two things separate. So toxic.

Unless it's Spritz Society. Right. But maybe she could like come out with a collection. Yeah. Like a capsule. Page X. Sewing Down South. She a hundred percent should because she has like a very distinct style.

And I actually was watching her Instagram yesterday. She did a whole Q&A about like her interior home decor. Perfect plug for sewing down south. X Paige DeSorbo. Free idea, you guys. Free idea. Next up, a little more breakup news, breakup update that's making things very real for me. Lala Kent changes her Rand tattoo to brand new after her breakup with Randall.

So this is to me like the most concrete proof that they are fully done. Because I wasn't totally sold. Like I felt like she had to punish him and stay away. But I thought maybe they would get back together. But she had a tattoo on her arm that says Rand. And now it says brand new. Do you think when she got the tattoo. Because she's not a dumb person.

And she said a million times that she knows how you get them is how you lose them, and she's really kind of clugged to everything. Do you think when she got this tattoo, she had the idea already, like if anything happens, I'll make it brand new? Because she could have done Randall, you know? Yes, I think that this is a girl who's got plans

and backup plans. The only thing that makes me feel like maybe not is that the R is capital. Oh. So it's brand new, but the B is lowercase. So it looks a little funny. And maybe she would have done a lowercase R if she really like. Oh, yeah.

No, by the way, you just totally debunked my whole theory. No, no. No, you're right. That's bizarre. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just like a little bit of improper grammar. Yeah.

But it's not like a huge tattoo. I've seen some terrible cover ups. So it's just like a little bit of improper grammar. Yeah. But it's not like a huge tattoo. I've seen some terrible cover ups. And as it comes as it pertains to Vanderpump Rules, like Jack's getting Stassi's name, like this is nothing. No. And it pertains to like just tattoos in general. She got like a little one.

She has a little plan for it and she has other tattoos. So it's not the biggest deal. And you know what? They'll always be in each other's lives since they share a child together. So is it so bad? You know, you have the father of your beloved daughter on your arm? No. No. But now I'm.

But it's officially over. I'm eyes wide open now. I'm sorry. I know how hard this is for you. I just can't believe it. I know. But you can. I have to.

Yeah, like, and Lala can believe it. Like, she's said a million times. Like, she's always been very wary of his past. I know. And perhaps their future. And my love for Rand, like, is just an extension of my love for Lala. Yeah. So I need to take it back.

Yeah. Bring it back in the basket it belongs in. It's just, it's obviously just a sad situation because they have a child together. Yeah. And, like. And because they were cute and, like, she was just, like, living life. Living the best life. I hope she can, like living living the best life i hope

she can like stay in that house it's so nice yeah it is it also is like annoying to watch it because i'm so team lala and like now when we're watching her question other people's like relationships like sheena's man's motive and then it's like six months later like her man she's gonna have to answer for that at the reunion yes but like she's doing everything she's she's walking the walk she's walking the walk yeah doing exactly what she's asking sheena to do yeah just to be smart i actually think that she's very principled and it all lines up right that's true like if she had stayed like then she really would have had a lot to answer for yeah yeah exactly no they're gonna be this man i'm like

obsessed with you do do do do do do you just looks so young and fresh, you know? He's so cute and sprightly. So cute and sprightly. Sorry, I know if you're watching on the podcast, you can't see the gorgeousness that is Theo. You're missing out. What a shame. What a shame.

Baby, what a shame. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? That was fast. We'll have a quick show on Friday. Yeah, also it's just like another Bravo story, but they're all from different shows, so I don't feel bad. It's the final story! Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- Can't wait to get my pillow From swimming down south Ex-page disorder Beautiful

Okay, our fifth and final story Jen Shah's fraud case will be explored In a new Hulu documentary Yes, I saw The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star Jen Shah's legal scandal Will be the subject of a new Hulu documentary Called The Housewife and the Shah Shocker Not a good name zero out of five on the name negative 11 out of five abc news's film will center on shaw's march arrest and accusation that she ripped off hundreds of people in a nationwide

telemarketing scam that targeted the elderly shaw and her assistant stewart smith's base charges of conspiracy conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering, to which they have pleaded not guilty, as they await trial in March 2022. Okay, coming up. The documentary will explore the allegations as well as the lavish lifestyle that Shaw has portrayed on the show. It will include interviews from her childhood classmate, her aunt, and Real Housewives. Her aunt?

Her aunt, yes. Who's in the hospital and maybe she has more than one aunt okay and real housewives of beverly hills alum dana wilkie nobody asked for her she also appeared on the housewife and the hustler and i think that it's she has no so my problem with housewife and the hustler was that it was like such a serious topic and i felt like 75% of it like they really covered it in a serious way but then they had like danielle staub and dana wilkie who like have no are not germane to the topic no and they just add a level of like jovial is that the right word yeah wow like they make it not serious yeah and so I felt like the

trailer for this one was even like 10x on the not seriousness stupider when the crimes Jen committed herself like are so heinous yes but also two alleged victims of Jen's will share their stories about how they were scammed by her trickery. And that I think will be extremely. Telling. Telling and powerful. Yeah. Because we haven't heard. Like right now they're just like all these faceless vulnerable elderly people and like

there's so many of them whereas like with Tom Girardi like we knew the specifics like even before we watch Housewife and the Hustler like we knew it was like victims of a plane crash like okay and we knew that the other people would come forward over the years so hearing from these victims I think is going to be really powerful because right now it's kind of abstract. Yeah, I agree. I'm just hoping that they take it like serious because the trailer was giving comedy and it's like there's nothing funny about it. No, yeah, the trailer was giving like, you know, just silliness.

Jovial vibes. Jovial vibes. Brian Moylan is in it who writes the Real Housewives recaps and Pump Rules recaps for Vulture, right? Yes. And he's just great so that's like the perfect type of person who should be in it like an actual housewives expert yes and my only question about Brian Moylan is he uh co-wrote Erica's book with her yes and I haven't looked into it at all why wasn't he in the Housewife and the Hustler where does he

stand on all of that oh that's a good call yeah also but I haven't like looked at his twitter or read maybe he's addressed it but that's just my question oh my god I forgot about that yeah I mean what I remember he wrote a book you know the most recent housewives book that like all the housewives endorsed was the guy who the editor-in-chief of people magazine oh was that who Dave Quinn right yeah I didn't know he was People Magazine. But right before that, Brian Moylan had written that book. The History of the Housewives.

The History of the Housewives. Not called that, but that. Yeah, I forget what it was called. But he tweeted that Bravo, sanctioned, is that the right word? Opposite of sanctioned. What's that word? Unsanctioned.

Unsanctioned his book. No one was allowed to acknowledge it because like they like stole his idea and did it on Andy's. That book that Dave Quinn wrote was on Andy's publishing. He has like a new publishing company. That was the first book they released. Yeah. So Brian Moreland's just like full of tea.

I could do a whole documentary on Brian Moreland. Yeah. But first I just want to know like his thoughts on the Erica situation. That's actually a really good point. I forgot. And then to be in the Jen Shaw documentary when it's like you should have been in the Erica one yeah you wrote her book with her so much time with her right you got paid from her by her no but like you they were he had to you know shadow her for so long and like hear all of her stories and

everything oh maybe he signed an NDA when he wrote the book I would actually bet that he did perhaps and that's why he couldn't participate because if he's in the Shaw one he obviously knows the people who made the Housewife and the Hustler yeah also just like the name like Housewife and the Hustler like I just thought was like a bad name no I thought I actually thought it was great no it was just too like you know silly like home like lifetime movie vibe I actually see that double down on that for Jen Shah, like, no. No, I think the name is so bad. So bad. But yes, I will definitely be watching.

Yes, me too. And I think it will be good for everyone to have a better understanding of the crime she's being accused of. That's what happened with Erica. Like, we were so clear on the crimes and the $20 million, EJ Global. Like, it really organized everything very well for us. Yes. And it is coming out on november 29th on hulu soon so we will have a full picture like by the time we hit the reunion and that and it will help in holding her accountable yeah because people can't just you know say i this is too confusing

i don't understand right or like jen explains it away like we have proof now right all right well that would be interesting those were good stories thank you for sharing you're so welcome i'm so glad we're all caught up to speed. I feel like we can all head into the weekend you know knowing that we know the fast-paced stories that we need to know and other than that I finished my book last night Rock Paper Scissors by Alice Feeney. It was a thriller and it was really kind of crazy. Like the whole book is really a slow burn and then like the twist or the explanation payoff etc was a pretty big one that i did not see coming and if you're into well jackie i'm please be nice me you'd be nice i said wow you don't have to say if you have nothing nice to say what was wrong with that i was happy for you you

got your twist i'm listening well um if you're into like the thriller lifestyle and you have patience i would recommend it i rated it a four but so many people message me they're like so curious to hear your thoughts on this book i couldn't even finish it so it's not for everyone you have to be a patient reader it was like spooky scary skeletons with shivers down your spine but i never felt like it was too anxiety inducing wow okay actually it sounds pretty good yeah I don't think you have the patience for it I would not thank you I would not recommend it to you I'm so impatient when it comes to books like when it comes to life tv even with books like my attention span is so short and it's the sort of

book I don't know if this spoils anything. I don't think it does. But like once you find out the ending, it actually makes you want to start the book again from the beginning. And like see all the signs. And like it's a whole nother book. That's like Shutter Island. Yes. When you know the ending and then you rewatch it like knowing the ending, you're like, oh,

this is so obvious. No, or it's just a whole different movie. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool. I haven't read in like six months. And actually, no, I just read The Good Sister on the plane so good and um Sally Hepworth has a new book Younger Wife but it doesn't come out till next year I got us some best copies will you share

with yeah I got you one too I know but it's like a book and it's like I don't read these anymore like I just read the kindle no I would do it I I will take a book on vacation like I can't read a book in my house it feels so unnatural yeah and then like if you want to read while your partner is sleeping. Yeah. Good luck. Yeah that's true. Actually last night I was tossing and turning I told you I'm addicted to my melatonin gummies and I tried to get off of them last night and I was like I should read but I just watched watch TikTok instead. You should have read. I know I know. It would have put you right to sleep. But I'm not in a book like I didn't want to start a new one. Yeah I mean it's so hard to start a new book. And I don't even have

anything on my list. I don't know where I'm going from here. The next thing on my list, like, I have, like, three books on my list that, like, I will read, like, um, beach read. But it's, like, it's not, like, life-changing. I'll read it, like, when I'm bored on a beach, you know? Yeah. Um, so I don't have, like, I had a bunch on my list, and I read them. Yeah, okay. I'll see if I can muster up anything for you. Does it bother you so much when you like have unread books like in your Goodreads? Like I just, they stare at me, but I didn't want to finish them. I only have like two and I feel good about my decision. Oh, I have so fucking many.

Ready? Books that you just are DNFing? Yeah. Like what? Okay. Malibu Rising. Oh. I didn't think it was good.

Sorry. Okay. Where would it be in my thing? I don't know. It would be in like currently reading. Yeah. Okay. Malibu Rising.

Oh. Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty. That's one of my. That's one of two of my DNFs. Did not like it. We Were Liars was recommended to me on TikTok. And I swear to God god it was not in english i couldn't understand i'm like am i stupid i was there were so many characters introduced on the

first page i was like how am i supposed to it was just confusing me and giving me anxiety never i never gave into that one i mean i guess that's it even though i remember i didn't finish um the last mrs parish i remember you didn't finish thatated but it's not showing up on my list. I think that you bought that when you were still on my kindle account so maybe I should read it. Oh you know you're right all my dnrs are on your kindle account because I was like nervous to make my own. Yeah but also like if it was something that I had already read then you don't have to feel bad about not finishing it. Oh that's true. Good times when we were on the same kindle. You're so smart. That was fun. But then you can see each other's kindle highlights and that's just a little. Embarrassing. Yeah. Even though I like

never highlight anything anymore. I like highlighting stuff but I never look at my highlights. But I do think like you know the once a year when I do it's a treasure trove of interesting information. I mean my like most recent books is literally like erotica. It happened one summer.

Fix her up. Which is the first in the hot and hammered hot and then i read love her or lose her the second in the hot and hammered series i'm dying wait can i see your reads yeah lots of um tessa bailey okay why is eliza starts oh you just read eliza's rumor i talked about on the podcast so good wow all of your covers are like so fun you know I don't read dark shit they're all like animated like they're so cute fun cute except Colleen Hoover but I've pretty much read all the Colleen Hoover's yeah this is pretty good yeah I think I'm like a really good mix of like if you would like to read

like lightly like not get so serious and dark, My Goodreads is a good place to be. Yeah, but you also don't only, like you've read some moderately serious books, I would say. Do you consider Colleen Hoover serious? No, but I would consider The Good Sister like not serious. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I mean, I guess the weirdest book I ever read was Nothing to See Here. But's a serious book yeah I know that's what I just said yeah you said so good same thing

yeah so good so good I verity is a serious book I guess like dark twisted my you're just like a book snob like no I'm really not but my recently my read list is so all over the place like who is this woman? Yeah, no, like you have no, like if you look at my good reads, like you know what type of reader I am. I'm genre fluid. That's so cool of you. Yeah, no, and I'm just open to suggestions.

Yeah. So hit me up. I've been seeing people have been sending me some suggestions. I need to take stock of them and find a new path. Forge a new path. If you guys like know my vibe, like Colleen Hoover, Tessa Bailey, but like I could also go a little bit more serious. Like I love Devlin Hugo.

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