The Toast - S4 Ep205: Unburdening Ourselves: Monday, November 29th, 2021

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

Lindsay Lohan announces she is engaged to Bader Shammas (NY Post) Off-White Designer Virgil Abloh Dies at Age 41 After Privately Battling Cancer for 2 Years (PEOPLE) Prince Charles Asked About the Skin Color of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's Baby, New Book Claims (PEOPLE) Kim Kardashian and daughter North West launch joint TikTok account (Page Six) Man Accused of Raping Lovely Bones Author Alice Sebold Has Conviction Overturned (E! Online) Selling Sunset Season 4 Recap Real Housewives of Potomac Recap Jonas Brother Family Roast Recap The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Monday after Thanksgiving break. We are back in studio. Hello, Jacqueline. Hi, I'm excited to be back in studio, though this is such a Monday. I mean, for everyone, we just had a four-day weekend, and now we're back to work. But we have so much to discuss here at the Toast today. It's a big day. I'm looking forward to leaving it all on the couch you know I definitely feel better because we were able to podcast in the middle of the week so much

like low-key happened last week like celebrity wise we did a patreon episode fast five of like things we just had to talk about so right and if you're looking for like the the bachelor drama if you're looking for what else we talk about dancing with the stars recap like if you're looking for all of that it's on the patreon patreon. Patreon.com slash The Morning Toast. It's irrelevant by today. I know. So I'm glad we got to discuss it so we didn't have to like bring up old shit. Yeah, I agree.

We talked about a lot. Like Emma from Selling Sunset. We had some great Patreon episodes. We did. There's still one more coming this month, but we got Olivia on the Patreon yesterday, which is always a pleasure. We did our Fast five business news stories. Actually, it's just like world news stories for your Thanksgiving table.

But you know what? That episode is applicable through the holiday season. Because if you're seeing family, if you're seeing people, if you're middling at a dinner party, these are conversations, topics, and like ice-breaking questions that you should have in your back pocket. We're also tackling big conversations like inflation, which is really an evergreen concept yeah art art crime like so many so many different subjects quite informative so I do feel good that we were able to unload some of that shit on the patreon like we don't have so much catching up to do but we still have a lot of catching up to do so much television you and I both finished the new season of selling sunset which we will put in the TV recap. Also, The Real Housewives of Potomac finished last night.

And I watched the Jonas Brothers roast, and I absolutely have to talk to someone about it. I want to hear all about it, but I am going to be watching it. No, I watched it, so absolutely nobody else on the planet has to. I can't fathom it was that bad. It was really bad. Like, borderline atrocious. I can't believe it. I need to find out for myself okay it was the shit you hate clickbaity like oh they go to a spin class like all of it was like these

pre-recorded packages that like Keenan kept throwing to was like very James Corden like it was really bad and the best part was Pete Davidson and they gave him four seconds to roast and you just needed more. John Legend was fine. The wives were okay. Like it was really bad. Like it was very, very, very not good. Well, can I tell you something that's going to cheer you up in some good content news? Annie Live is this week. I know. You guys, Annie Live is this week and Annie's making news because she performed at the Thanksgiving Day Parade oh my god I have to watch I didn't turn it on early enough to see her but I heard she was amazing I mean reviews are in everyone lip syncs so like really how good could she have been but maybe whatever she recorded the reviews are in and apparently Annie's a star that's so

and it bodes really well for Annie live okay but here's the thing. The thing is that I have a show the night of Annie Live. I believe I'm gonna be in Detroit. Okay so Annie DVR'd. It's not the same. No it's not the same. Like are you gonna watch? Of course. Live. You know what maybe I'll I need to get myself like a screener even though it's live like you can't but I need to get it so I can watch it on Thursday night like after my show treat myself. Okay. I have a three-hour drive to Toronto. You can use my YouTube TV login. YouTube TV. And you can watch it like on your phone.

Then I need Wi-Fi, right? Whatever. I'll figure it out. You'll figure anything for Annie. It's a big week. Annie Live. I start my tour this week. I have three enormous shows.

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slash tour. Take a trip. And I also did a show on Saturday. I did a Patreon little practice show my last one. Such a good crowd.

I heard it was a great show. It really was. Like I'm not one to toot my own horn. I know what I'm good at and I know what I'm bad at. And I was so good on Saturday. That's so exciting. Yeah. So now I really feel like prepared enough to tackle these. These are big theaters,

like a thousand people each. I am ready. I'm excited. I'm very nervous, but it's going to be a great week. And I no longer have that enormous pit in my stomach. Like this is now something I'm looking forward to. That is, you love to hear it. You do. We really do. We're, we're sending you off with so much love and excitement. And I look forward to hearing all the reviews so the schedule for this week is Monday Tuesday Wednesday in studio regular business Thursday podcast only Friday I am too busy to podcast and Jackie's pregnant so yeah you guys leave the pregnant woman she's getting big you are you really kind of blew up. I exploded. Exploded over Thanksgiving.

No, I mean, for me, it's really been. You also don't dress like this, like for the toast. No, but I got this shirt from The Gap. It's maternity because I needed maternity pajamas because the waistbands on all of my pajamas were just like. Yeah, it was too tight. So I was like, I need maternity. So the waistband is flex.

And then I saw these cute little tops. I was like I need maternity so the waistband is flexed and then I saw these cute little tops I was like how chic so now I have more maternity clothes and that's why you'll catch me out here with my belly you're looking like majorly pregnant now whereas you usually just wear like a crewneck I usually wear just toes merch by the way shop morning toes calm we're having our biggest Black Friday Cyber Monday sale ever it's criminal what's going on at the website okay it's. We worked so hard and now we're literally giving shit away for free. We're giving things away. Um, everything that is not new is up to four is 40% off or more in certain cases. By the way, almost 50. The stocking is 15% off. So 40% off sale, black Friday, cyber Monday, today's cyber Monday. So

head over to shop morning toast.com. You can get the new holiday collection. You can get the new fall collection, and then you can also, you know, a la carte, add some $3 pop sockets. Do you know what else you can get now at shopmorningtoast.com? My tour merch. I heard. So I will be having select merch at the shows. But if you want to get stuff before, you're worried you might not get your size. It's all available online now. There's also more shit online than we will be bringing to shows like more designs so shop morning toast.com if you go to the menu there's a little thing that says not like other girls and we made really cool merch for the tour so you can get it at the show or you could also get it online before um so there's

just lots of things to be purchasing at shop morning toast.com there are and as far as the holiday collection goes we still have robes we still have blankets we still have earmuffs i love those earmuffs so much i wore them in today they. They're a premium quality. Yeah. They're so stinking cute. So head over there, get your tings. And did you do any Black Friday, Cyber Monday shopping? Not a thing. Not one single thing. I peruse because I always, you know, shit the bed.

Yeah. And it's like, okay, you should spend it getting like something that you've really wanted. And like a big purchase. Yeah. What I want is an air fryer, but I don't have space for it so okay um I have an air fryer and I don't have space for it and it's something you make space for like it's really especially in your like cooking it's the most premium thing and by the way they're really not expensive the one that we got was like 90 bucks and it works very very well of course you can get

like the $400 one that's also like an oven. But if I get it for Cyber Monday then. Yeah. Actually, I get some good targeted ads for like crazy air fryers. Get one. It will change your life. Okay, cool. Also, Spritz Society is having a major BFCM sale.

That's what the kids are calling it in the industry. Go over to their Instagram to get the unique promo code. I think, I't want to misspeak and missay it. So it's on the sports society Instagram. Yeah. Just like, no, like it's one of those things where you just click the link and applies the code, you know? No, you have to apply the code. No, no, no. Not if you click the link. Are you sure? I'm positive. Or you can, you know, go to sports society.com and apply the code. Got it. BFCM 25 is the code, but you can also click the link in our bio yeah so check that out it's great to celebrate the holiday season with sprites and if you are going over to a dinner party or someone's hosting you a perfect gift it's way more fun than a bottle of wine and contains

more alcohol content that's true also we just have so much catching up. Right after this, I cannot focus on today's episode. I'm conducting an interview for tomorrow's episode. That might be the one I've maybe felt the most pressure to perform. I'm interviewing someone. I'm so sad you can't be there, but I understand why. I'm very nervous about who I'm interviewing for the toast right after this. It's going to be amazing. I'm so excited for you to flex your Diane Sawyer chops no like you're very prepared okay you took the

time and it's gonna be so great it's gonna be so fun for you because it's someone who you love so much if you guys listen to this show once you find out who it is it's like one of Claudia's favorite Bravo webs of all time and someone I've really just kind of worked hard to defend and like spread the good word about because this person, you know, has been villainized at some points. And I'm just, I'm really looking forward to first of all meeting her and thanking her for her work.

Yeah, no, I'm excited for you. You guys will find out who it is tomorrow and it's going to be great. So we just have a busy week. Sales, interviews, tour, pregnancies, children. Such a busy week. You know, I had the craziest dream. I told you I woke up at 6.30.

Okay. You're going to die at what I did today. Okay. But you know how we were talking about dreams. We just reveal so much. Okay. I would love some help in revealing what this says. So I, me and Ben had a baby.

But like it wasn't our baby. It was like a child that like we both parented, but like, we weren't like accepting it as like our child. And like, we got it from home from the hospital. Ben accidentally like kicked the baby off the bed. I forgot to feed the baby. I could see the baby's ribs. It was like really giving me, it was the worst dream ever. Okay. Do you think it had to do with the dog that you saw yesterday? I don't know, but I just want to let you know, I woke up super early. Couldn't go back to bed, which is like such a not, not like me thing. Like I can always go back to bed. So I was like, is my body telling me I'm pregnant? Even though there's like, no way I got up. I took a pregnancy test. I'm not pregnant. I just like, it was so unlike me to wake up and not be able to go back to sleep. It was such a bothersome dream. Yeah.

That I was like, is this my body? They always say like, when you know your body tells you you're pregnant. I'm like, is this my body telling me I'm pregnant? Oh, that's an interesting sign. But it's not. Okay, cool. It was a really traumatizing morning. I've been up forever.

That's nice for you. I'm at the phase of pregnancy where like now my sleep has really been compromised. Like I was so looking forward to this last week because I was like I'm gonna sleep till the cows come home never slept less in my life wow that fucking sucks in my fucking life yeah so that's that's really hard for me because you guys know like sleep is my favorite activity under the sun you better get used to it yeah no that's the body you know getting you prepared for like like I literally wake up every single hour. I sleep as light as a feather now.

That sucks. But it's just so funny. That's nature doing its thing, preparing you for when you need to be sleeping lightly because you're taking care of a life. Do you, can you take melatonin or something? Not, I haven't looked into it and I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to take it. That's really definitely turning me off to children. Like no sleep, even when you're pregnant, like it hasn't even started. I wouldn't want to take it. That's really definitely turning me off to children like

no sleep even when you're pregnant like it hasn't even started. No but I've been sleeping pretty good up until now maybe this is just a phase. Are you using the pillow? I use the pillow for lounging not for sleeping. I laid my ass in that pillow it is fabulous I think I should just get a pregnancy pillow like for life. No like you're like pregnant by proxy. Literally. And as I've said so many times, like being pregnant is the thing for you. No, I know. Except for like the after part where like you have the children and you have to raise them and like be selfless and like look ugly, you know? I guess.

But you could do it your own way. I mean, look at Christine. Totally. We're going to talk about selling Sunset. But also one last thing. And I hate to bring this up because I know it pains you. But I'm going to the Luke Combs concert tonight. You know, I've done a lot of self-work about this.

And I'm going to try and be there for you guys. You don't have to, by the way. I would understand. I don't think I'm going to mute your stories. I, I think I'm going to try to, like, push through and watch them because I'm just so excited for you and so, so, so jealous. I know. I'm really, do you think that, like, if it weren't for COVID, would you as a pregnant person go to a concert? Yes. Okay, so it's the COVID element. Yes. Okay. But also, like, doesn't it sound like torture, like, standing around with your belly? No, it doesn't. Okay. Because, one, you can sit at a concert? Yes. Okay, so it's the COVID element. Yes. Okay. But also, like, doesn't it sound like torture, like, standing around with your belly?

No, it doesn't. Okay. Because, one, you can sit at a concert. So true. You really can. And, like, for me, just the feeling of, like, the music, it's like a serotonin boost that is worth whatever back pain I'm going to go home with, which I would have anyway.

Yeah, that's true. Okay. But also, you know what? I just figured out about the concert, which I'm now not, I really don't want to like talk about and make it but I don't know this will not probably not make you that jealous um do you know who the opener is I think someone I like have recently fallen in love with Brandi Carlile nope similar vibe Ashley McBride yeah that's what I meant they're literally the same person because they like both get nominated for Grammys in the country department but but they're not that big of stars.

I'm Ashley McBride's number one fan, and I cannot wait. I'm texting the group chat. I'm like, we have to get there at 7.15. I will not miss a second of Ashley McBride. That'll be so great. I'm excited for you. I'm really gonna... We're really gonna miss you. The energy, of course, will not be the same without

GQ. But it's like, if I could do anything right now eat anything you know do any go anywhere not like activity that you can't like ski eat sushi yeah drink I would want to go to a Luke Combs concert that would be my number one thing I'm so sorry it's it's not right yeah so it'll be okay I'm really happy for you guys and just make sure the stories are premium you know the story oh the Instagram stories yeah of course yeah like so that we can feel like we're there if anyone else is at home well this is your reminder luke holmes is doing two nights in madison square garden don't miss it yeah i'm sure it's sold out but step up okay so now i feel caught up personally professionally

emotionally physically and also spiritually um so let's dive right in. I'm sorry. No, one more thing that we had. I told you about this yesterday. Ask me how my weekend was. Oh, you guys, Claudia needs to unburden herself. I do. She did something embarrassing. Claudia, how was your weekend? It was really good until I fell. I fell. Claudia has been doing this thing. It's been happening to me for years. Where she is like in a cool party in the coolest place, you know, with the coolest people. And she fucking takes a tumble. And like a real, like knees on the ground tumble.

No, like face hit the floor. It's amazing I'm walking today. Down on all fours. Just the pinnacle of embarrassment. So there's many, many, many times that I've fallen, but there's three that stand out in particular. And unfortunately, one of them happened two days ago. So the first one, I was at a dinner party and I was like drinking. And the thing is with all these, like, yes, I'm drinking, but I'm not wasted. I can't stand. I just have

less inhibitions and like my big shoes. You're not counting stairs. And I'm like, I'm a clumsy person. So I don't want it to be like I'm stumbling all over the place. But yes, I have had drinks. So the first time I fell at a dinner party, I sat down and I missed my chair. And I fell completely on the floor of my ass. And it was like really embarrassing. It's like a lot of people were crowding around me like, are you okay? And I'm like, I'm fine.

Please don't look at me like, fuck off. Okay. That was years ago. That is so horrible. The second one, which I think is the worst but the one from Saturday might be the worst one when I was in Vegas like a couple months ago um I went to see Paris DJ and then she had like a cute little after party dinner it was like in this private room not a lot of people maybe 20 people and this time yeah I was blacked out and I was wearing these huge

platforms and I don't know at some point in the night, I just went flying face first, like nosedive into some man's feet. Like, and the worst part was like Ben wasn't there. No one was there to help me up. So I laid on the floor for like an extra second, like to get my bearings. Cause it's very shocking to fall. And if Ben was there, he usually just scoops me up.

But that, the Paris one, I think is the worst one. I don't know who saw. When I fall, like, I can't look around. I can't make eye contact. Like, I don't want, I somehow think there's, like, a possibility that nobody saw, you know? Yeah, well, if I was a spectator in the situation, I know people think, like, oh, my God, the first thing you should do is, like, try and help. Never. The best thing you can do is look away.

Yeah. Pretend like you didn't see. That will spare the person the most. So then then on Saturday I had a very very bad fall um I was at an after party and it was late and I had been drinking and I was there was like an outdoor area and I walked from the outside to the inside and there was like this little ledge like nothing crazy but I was wearing these huge platforms I missed the little ledge and I went face first into the floor.

And thankfully, Ben was there. I wasn't on the ground for more than a second before Ben scooped me up. But I was like fully laying on my back, like looking up at the party. And it was terrible. And it ruined my whole day yesterday. All I kept thinking was like, who saw? Like, did people see? I was the girl who fell.

And it's a life-ruiner. And I don't know how to stop falling. That's the thing. Yeah. I want to, you know, take something away from this. and it's a life earner and I don't know how to stop falling that's the thing yeah I want to like you know take something away from this maybe it's the big shoes maybe it's no it's not either because I literally cannot wear like anything but big shoes look my shoes right now they're fucking huge yeah that's just who I am you want me to not be who I am well if who you are is a faller then is that who you want to be I just think like I need to it just it always hits me when I don't expect it the fall so I just feel like I need to just keep it top of mind always but like I'm drinking I'm talking to people I'm

not thinking don't fall you know yeah no I used to have a real fear of falling in college because you wore huge shoes I wore huge shoes and not even at night like not even drunk falling but like falling on the quad like on the ice because I was always just like not wearing the right shoes but I was just making it like a statement of course and I was just so worried that I was gonna embarrass myself so thoroughly and also like they would say like at Colgate like because it's hilly and icy like everybody falls at some point it's a rite of passage and when I finally had my fall was it with the bike no oh that's the best no but that's a different fall no this was like a fall like you know in the

near the academic buildings on the slippery slope and it was as good it was fine there was no one around I fell on my tushy there was a railing right nearby oh good good it was it was so fine because I like overhyped it so much because it it was always top of mind. Yeah. But it will ruin your life. No, I know. But so will falling. No, I know. Like, what do I do? I'm glad I just fell because now I'm not due for another fall for a little while.

I know. But they're getting closer and closer together. They're like contractions. It's true. I'm fucked. Like, I really. And I. Okay, so here's the thing.

I was walking behind my friend, Gabe. And I fell behind Gabe. And I didn't see him. And then when I saw him at the party like five minutes later I'm like did you see me fall he said no you fell and he wasn't just being nice he's like I swear I literally didn't even see you fall so the person in front of me didn't see I know you're holding on to hope but like his back was to you fuck I know but wouldn't I have I like made a sound or something that would have caused him to turn around was the music loud I don't know I mean listen you've got to forgive yourself I can't I really can't move on I can't you have to move on because the thing is nobody

else is thinking about it today except for you I don't know I feel like some people are definitely still thinking embarrassing things happen like just disassociate say that wasn't me that didn't happen to me I'm sorry to this woman yeah no like that, like, that just, I, you just can't claim that action. Yeah. It was just tough because I could ruin my whole night and I went down, and I went home after, like, immediately after. Okay. So that's that.

You just gotta put it to bed. Yeah. Just know I'm still thinking about it constantly. Okay. I'm sorry. It's okay. Okay. Now are you ready to jump in?

Yes. Now that you've let everyone know know I've unburdened myself and I feel like the more people you tell like the less embarrassing it is because you're not like suffering in silence yeah that's true I it's really unburdening was the perfect word that's exactly what I'm doing the more people I tell like the less the less that it's my story and it's our story we all have to shoulder it yeah yeah and you know that will help me immensely like take some of the weight of this burden off of me. Okay. Okay. That's what we're here for. So without further ado, it is time for the Fast Five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a

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announces she's engaged to bader shamus to a bb bbm to a businessman bow bm b lindsey lohan has announced that she's engaged her boyfriend bader in a gushing post on instagram the hollywood star shared the news with her instagram followers and posted a trio of loved up snaps. The smitten actress paid tribute to him and wrote alongside her photos, my love, my life, my family, my future at Bader Shamas. Hashtag love ring emoji. Cute. Yeah, really cute. She's like coming back. She's coming back. We said that she has a new Christmas movie coming out with Court Overstreet sometime soon so that's really exciting now we're seeing love so you love to see a little personal success professional success I really hope that this could be it for her no it's

so crazy when you think about like those when you think of Lindsay Lohan you think of like the girls of the early 2000s like Paris Brittany Lindsay and like they're all settling down now yeah no they all got engaged this year. Yeah. 2021 was a great year for the girls. Even though I know that Brittany and Paris like do not fuck with Lindsay. I'm sure yeah I don't expect they were never like best of friends they got into a car one night together. No but like they don't like each other. Yeah no but like they I don't think they were friends they were friends for sure. For a time but like yeah but Paris. It's not like Paris and Nicole.

No. Paris went on Watch Dogs Live a while ago. And Andy was like say three nice things about Lindsay Lohan. And she was like she's lame. Tall. And something else. Yeah. They don't get along.

Which. But I know Britney and Paris do. Yeah. Did you see Britney like posted on her Instagram something about Jeffree Star. Like I guess he sent her a ton of makeup. And was like congrats. Because she like loves his makeup. And she posted just like the collection of makeup being like thank you jeffree

star i love you like i love your makeup she deleted it like she's now succumbed to like cancel culture she's now finding out what it's like to really be on instagram yeah like you thought you wanted to join us here on instagram no you did not that's hysterical and then like jeffree star took his instagram and being like you guys are bullying someone who's been in prison for 13 years like using using the free Britney movement. It's so messy. I'm like not getting involved. It's the stupidest thing ever,

but it is so dumb that like, she can't just post what she wants. Like we're really, we're canceling Britney now. Like leave her alone. No, that's, that's called being on the internet.

It wasn't going to be a free ride. Totally. Now you can come play with all of us. See what we've been going through um I'm happy for Lindsay but by the way I want to talk about Christmas movies because I actually so last night I started um one of the new Christmas movies on Netflix called a castle for Christmas with Brooke Shields oh Brooke Shields yeah I didn't finish it but it was like so cute and they just have like the most

amazing budget the budget is unparalleled and then earlier this week I watched Love Hard which is the Heather the Christmas movie with Nina Dobrev and Heather McMahon and it was so good it was like funny and like it was how was Heather I've never seen her act in anything Heather was the best part I'm sure that's literally the least surprising thing she's so funny she was so funny she wasn't in it enough fuck like okay it's just a start no but she was so so good and so funny and then the rest of the movie like there were some really funny moments and like who plays the man like love interest oh um i don't know his name but he was also in crazy rich Asians. He was so good and funny. Jimmy O. Yang.

Let me see. Well, there's two love interests. That's kind of the point. Do you know the premise of the movie? He's like the cousin who makes movies. Got it. Not that I know of. Okay.

There's two love interests. That's the point of the book. Don't spoil it. I don't want to spoil the premise, but it was a really funny premise. It got me thinking about because the premise is and the show isn't in the trailer so this isn't a spoiler I've seen the trailer it's like a catfish situation and so she like really like was into this guy Josh Lynn and they were talking for like weeks but they hadn't met and then she goes to meet him and it's not him and the real guy lives in the town and she's trying to get now Josh just set her up with that guy got it and it's like it really turned for

me the catfish situation on its head because it's like if you got along with this person like on every single level and you just like were disappointed in the way that they look like that's kind of on you yes but the premise is that that person lied to you while pretending to be like open and vulnerable. And that's what bothers people. But yes, I agree. It's like, oh, you're actually ugly. Never mind.

Right. Like we agree about everything. We couldn't, we have the same sense of humor. Same interests. You get me on every level, but you just don't look like what I wanted you to look like. Well, so I think on the TV show, the real problem isn't that they're ugly.

The problem is that they lied yeah but what if they lied and they were much more beautiful like would they be angry you know no I totally agree and actually got me thinking I have a good idea for a dating app but then I ran it by the snitch and she said no absolutely not but my idea is a dating app where there's no pictures and you get like the person's obviously like name, age, job, important facts, and then like some really in-depth questions that like really give you a sense of their personality. And like if you saw someone on there who like you seem so simpatico with, would you go out with them like blind? Like Love is Blind, the show?

I mean, it's an interesting concept and I think it might be popular like with a small group of people. No, only because, and it's terrible to say, and it's just the fucked up world we live in. Like, looks matter. Like, people have types. You like blondes. You like brunettes. You like, I like a dad bod. Like, everyone has their interests.

And most of the time, they will date within their type. But at the end of the day, it's what's on the inside that really matters. I mean, I agree with that. And, like, I feel like most people wouldn't think that at first but everybody like if you were just like dating an abercrombie model but they didn't give you anything mentally emotionally intellectually you wouldn't stay with them no we're mature jackie like we see that but a lot of people like still don't like people are very looks obsessed we live in a society that is obsessed with like young and skinny and like we are in a looks obsessed society and you and I thankfully have risen above but you know actually was thinking about that this morning because Ben was sleeping and Ben has like a like

a he's gonna kill me scared he is like three like they're like cute I wouldn't say moles like birthmarks on his back they're just like dots like big freckles and you know I have a personal aversion to any sort of like marks it just I have trauma from the three I used to have um but I was actually thinking while I was up at 6 30 like Ben's moles are so cute and like I hate moles and that's when I realized like how mature I am how much you love him yeah like I would if this was another man's back in my bed I would have vomited like but when Ben I was like these are so beautiful we are mature that's the moral of the story anyways let me guys let me know what you guys think about my app do you have a name no I I didn't get that far but also like someone else can create it I'm not gonna have the bandwidth to do this so you're giving the free idea to someone else I'm giving the

free idea I think it's a really interesting because that show love is blind like really was the perfect example of that so why not for why not in real life why do you have to go on tv to experience that yeah no it's true so those were my thoughts but the movie was was ultimately really good i laughed i teared up a little i did i'm also extremely emotional but i did have a tear and that to me is the makings of a good christmas movie i completely agree of a good movie so congrats to lindsey lohan no oh yeah that's the first she wasn't in that movie i know but that's the first story are you ready for our next story sure some very sad news off white designer virgil Abloh dies at

the age of 41 after privately battling cancer for two years so yesterday Virgil's Instagram account shared that quote we are devastated to announce the passing of our beloved Virgil Abloh a fiercely devoted father husband son brother and friend he is survived by his loving wife Shannon Abloh and his children for For over two years, Virgil valiantly battled a rare aggressive form of cancer, cardiac angiosaroma. He chose to endure this battle privately since his diagnosis in 2019, undergoing numerous challenging treatments, all while helming several significant institutions that span fashion, art, and culture. Oh my god, this was so surprising.

It reminded me exactly of how I felt when Chadwick Boseman died because it was the same thing. Like such a young guy, top of their game, battling something privately and nobody knew until it was over. And it was just so sad. And all the tributes that I've read from other people are so kind. It's like the nicest things you can say about a person. And of course,

every time, you know, you're writing someone, something nice about someone who's passed away, they're always really nice. But everything I was reading, I was just like very like impacted by, they were all just like above and beyond talking about his kindness.

Of course, his talent, like once in a lifetime, once in a generation talent. Yeah, no, it was quite moving to see what everybody had to say. But also he really is like, we, the designer of our generation, time once in a generation talent yeah no it was quite moving to see what everybody had to say but

also he really is like we the designer of our generation has lost a great talent from everything he did with like Louis Vuitton men's to off-white like just he really was a fixture in the culture and I think we will feel his loss immensely did you know that Off-White was bought by Farfetch no because in the statement on the Off-White Instagram it said uh Off-White and Farfetch are sad to announce that's so interesting I know I thought that was interesting too oh my gosh what a great merger I know I love both of those brands so and I also saw on the Louis Vuitton Instagram that they have like a show with his final collection. Like, I will be purchasing, like, everything. Good luck to you.

No, I know. Like, how do I do it? Like, I just, I want something from, like, his final collection. You gotta maybe have a salesperson. Yeah, I got a guy. I got a guy. Okay. Well, this was really sad.

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Sure. So a new book about the royals is coming out called Brothers and Wives Inside the Private Lives of William, Kate, Harry, and Meghan by Christopher Anderson, who is a source close to the royal family. Which part of the family? I think the firm. Okay. And in this book, it says that Prince Charles is the one who asked about

the skin color of Meghan and Harry's baby obviously I think any of us could have guessed that so here's how the story goes according to the book unless I just had a thought unless if he's close to the firm that means that like the firm like maybe helped with the book or like had some approval and maybe Charles is already so hated he might be abdicating like maybe they just decided to dump it on him that's all I'm saying so here's the story here's the story and I think this might clear some things up so Prince Charles was the unnamed royal who speculated about the complexion of Meghan and Harry's future children according to a new book the book says a source close to the royal family claims that Charles made the comment during a conversation over breakfast with his wife Camilla on the day the Duke and Duchess

of Sussex's engagement was announced. So the story is that it was two of them having breakfast. Got it. So Charles says to Camilla, quote, I wonder what the children will look like. Camilla was said to be taken aback somewhat by the question and noted that the child would be absolutely gorgeous. Alleg allegedly lowering his voice Charles then asked I mean what do you suppose their children's complexion might be a spokesman for Prince Charles's office denied the report saying that this is fiction and not worth further comment and then in an interview Charles in an interview on the Today Show the author elaborated on the claims in the book saying he said that Charles's comments were benign and

twisted by palace courtiers so this was a conversation between Camilla and Charles and it got back to Megan and Harry via a game of telephone oh because when when Megan and Harry said it I thought they had like a family meeting and someone was like well what's a kid's skin color gonna be which is awful this is still bad but it's not what I thought right so he told um Hoda and Savannah on today the author he said on the morning that Meghan and Harry's engagement was announced in a very kind of benign way Prince Charles started to muse on what their future grandchildren might look like and the author said quote I mean here's this beautiful biracial American woman and the world's most famous redhead I don't know about that. He said I'm'm a grandfather, of course. We all do this,

speculate on it, but it turned into something very toxic. It was weaponized by the men in gray who run the palace organization. Unfortunately, by the time it got to Harry, that's the way he took it. And the way he took it is he said on, as he said on Oprah, that there were, quote, concerns and conversations about how dark Archie's skin might be when he's born. You know what it's one of those things like when Harry says it I'm like oh and then when this man says it I'm like oh like it's just it's a context thing I guess. Yes much like a lot of things. Yeah. But of course I mean it's really hard and I feel this way about every single book about the royal family that comes out. Like, unless they're writing it themselves. It's like, who is writing it?

How can, like, they're so close-lipped. That was even like Finding Freedom, which was literal propaganda. Beyond. But, like, the whole firm is so close-lipped. Like, I don't, I'm inclined not to believe anything. Yeah. So, I don't know. But this explanation does kind of, it kind of clears Charles a little bit.

Not really, because also we didn't know who it was. So it was like, it could have been anyone. But now it's stuck to Charles. And yes, if you take the time to maybe listen to this guy and maybe you agree with him, then you could have a little bit of more understanding about the situation. But I don't think it's good for Charles yeah but I also don't think they just like put it on him because he's like uh a dump the Christmas tree oh have you been watching Succession no um I want to scoop a

little episodes and watch them while I'm on tour because what one and one is like a little you know what I scooped them and I had two to watch and it took me like two days to get through them because like I think it's the worst show ever but basically succession yeah it's so bad what like it has all the makings of a good show because it's on HBO and it has a really great premise but like it fucking sucks like if you told me I watched last night the new episode it's like if you told me that I could never watch another episode and I would never find out what happened I would say okay wow I'm shocked to hear you say that it's like it's just really everyone is so unlikable there's some interesting like dialogue moments did you know that Tom Wabbsgams is Mr. Darcy from Pride and

Prejudice no yeah somebody put that in the Toast Facebook group I was shook I thought Mr. Darcy was no that can't be no I'm telling you hold on maybe i'm like some maybe in his high school play no matthew mcfaden and matthew mcfaden mr darcy yeah oh my god how crazy yeah look at this i see i see oh my god isn't that the craziest shit ever that's twisted i fucking hated this okay but Okay but you know like where we're at in succession so it's not um this isn't a spoiler or anything but they call Tom the Christmas tree because everyone's gonna hang their orange their their crimes on him. You know that's literally Charles and if he ends up like being skipped which I don't even know if that's possible

like it would all make sense you know. He really took one for the team after all he's done it's the least he could do yeah yeah we'll see and William is just like so primed and like ready we're ready is ready the country is ready like the kids are ready they're all set up like there's literally no need for Charles like if Charles mysteriously disappears in the next couple years that's why yeah it's really it's never been done and the royal experts say that it's not even a fucking possibility so don't even think about it but it's crazy because everyone's thinking about it but it's like the monarchy is on its last they can't handle much more and they need a rejuvenation of excitement a modernization modernization they really do they need to do something drastic and I think that that's the perfect solution.

Because I think the country. I mean I don't fucking know. But. I think people really like William and Kate. And would be excited. I think they do too. To usher them in. But it's also just bizarre.

The sentiment on the royal family here. Versus in the UK. Like whenever I talk to someone British. Like they love the family. They love the firm. They love Will and Kate. And here. Like there's. People are. People find it very problematic. And here, like, there's, people find it very problematic. And they're very much siding with Harry and Meghan in America.

That's why they fled here. Like, they're the royals here. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I guess I'm just, like, an Anglophile. Totally.

You're such a royalist. But I do sometimes, like, feel like a Francophile. So, is that the right word? Yeah. You love France? Yeah. It's hard for me because I'm such an Anglophile and such a Francophile. So is that the right word? Yeah, you love France? Yeah, it's hard for me because I'm such an Anglophile and such a Francophile. Oh, maybe you're just a lover of tings. Maybe you're a tingophile. I'm definitely a tingophile.

And I just think I'm a lover of the world. A global citizen, if you will. A globophile? A globophile, yes. Okay, are you ready for our next story? Some exciting news for tiktok kim kardashian and northwest have launched a joint tiktok account at kim and north it is racked at more than 130 000 followers oh you're reading an old article they're at almost 2 million oh my god well that was in less than 24 hours and now they're at 2 million and most notably for me

was that they did the easy on me challenge, which we were joking about. Well, this is an extension we covered last week on the Patreon that P and Courtney had. We didn't. We talked about how P got busted. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And but the account is back up, run by Courtney. And then I guess because Penelope's mom let her do it,

North asked her mom, and then Kim and North made one, and they're both doing pretty much, like, the same content. Like, really poorly edited, like, aesthetic videos of, like, them just being rich, and sometimes their parents popping in. P is working hard on her account, though. She got Scott in it. I think she got, like, Travis in one. She got Alabama Barker in one. She got, like, got like Courtney and Travis in one in the background smart she's using her surroundings to build her image and we

love that I think that while I'm happy for P and that she's had this she found this outlet like I think that North being like the creative mind that she is like it's just gonna explode I think this is gonna be such a great outlet vessel for her to express herself. She's definitely, just in my TikTok opinion, she definitely has some more work to do than Penelope on the editing front. Like pretty much everything North posts like isn't in focus and it's really frustrating. Maybe that's like an aesthetic choice. It's possible,

but I just think P has been doing it a little bit longer. She went like undetected on TikTok for like a week and then it blew up. But she had had a lot of videos on before that where nobody knew who she was. So I just think she's got a little bit more experience than North and North could really use like a tutor because she's like, she did this video. I think she was making her bed.

Like, so they went to Palm Springs and you know, they have that bunk bedroom for all the cousins to be in at Chris's house. So she was like making her bed for an hour on this TikTok, like zooming in on the pillow, like touching the blanket, lifting the blanket, lifting the blanket back. It was like pretty torturous. Interesting. Don't, well, I think she's going to do great things.

Yeah. I mean, their followings are growing. Like, is this the start of the Kardashian kids like becoming influencers? I think it's too early. Yeah. No, there's so much more runway. I becoming influencers I think it's so early yeah no there's so much more runway I would I think it's just them having a good time I hope yeah and I love seeing Kim on the talk like that's a true right and she's like dancing which we know she doesn't do and it's just funny to watch her dance knowing that she hates it it's just funny

also like when you go on Instagram, you go to Kim's Instagram, you get like business Instagram, business Kim, business, business, business. And this TikTok version of Kim is like mom Kim and it's really sweet. It is sweet.

She's a great mom. Yeah. She lets the kids do what they want and they want TikTok. And she'll dance, like she won't dance for anyone. She won't dance for Prince, but she'll dance for North.

Chigs! Jackie. Sympatico. Erotico. Hypnotico. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Someone doesn't look ready. Yeah, which way?

It's been so long since I do this show. Do we usually do triangles, then ads, or ads, and then triangles? Ooh. Well, it looks like we're doing triangles, then ads. It's the final story. Mr. Darcy is Tom Wombs games. And that's a magic number. That's really the craziest fact I've heard like all year no I know and I remember watching Pride and Prejudice as a kid and first of all hating it and second of all thinking like

that guy was like fallen first I'm like it should have just been played by Amanda Bynes dad I remember thinking that so clearly like the guy from What a Girl Wants totally should have been Mr. Darcy. And this guy was like a cheap knockoff Hallmark version of Colin Firth. Yeah. And now that he's reentered my life in this way, I'm besmirched. I don't even know if that's the right word. I think it is.

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you I don't know if I mentioned it. I was up at 6 30. I was shocked and I have a lot of questions because I read the article and it didn't answer answer is this the case from the book or this happened to her after not lovely bones she also wrote lovely bones this is not about lovely okay okay she just happens to be the author yes she wrote a book in 1999 a memoir called called lucky and was about her sexual assault which happened to her she wrote that a stranger beat and raped her in a tunnel in thorndon park near syracuse university when she was a freshman there and months later she saw the man um on the street in the city who reminded her of her rapist and she reported the encounter to the police she later wrote about how she failed to identify the authority suspect for her rape in a police

lineup but prosecutors later used her account and microscopic hair analysis which 35 years later was deemed faulty as evidence and then this man Anthony Broadwater was charged with forcible rape. Alice testified at his trial. So what she testified on his behalf or against him against him she but he wasn't the man that she picked out in the lineup. What's so crazy about this story that in 2019 it was reported that Lucky was going to be turned into a movie and earlier this year the executive producer who was working on the movie noticed discrepancies between the memoir and the script. He told the New York Times quote I started having some doubts not about the story that Alice told about her assault which was tragic but the second

part of her book about the trial which didn't hang together and so this started like this chain reaction and now a judge has overturned the conviction but he was in jail for 16 years anthony broadwater yes so okay just i'm still confused on her part like so say it again with the lineup okay so she picked someone out of a lineup who wasn't ultimately the person who was sent to jail. But the prosecutors, I guess, influenced her choice. But the guy she saw on the street is this guy? Is this guy, but not the person who... She picked out of the lineup.

Yeah. And not the person who did it. And we don't know where he is. No. But she testified that this was the man. Yeah, because I guess that's... Who she thought? What she thought.

I don't know. There's some very bad story. I don't like it. Yeah, no, I never read the book Lucky, but it was like obviously a huge book. It was. And it was going to be turned into a movie. Was it after She Wrote the Lovely Bones or before?

I think before because this came out in 1999 and Lovely Bones was 2002. Got it. Yeah. So just a really, really crazy story yeah very sad very sad like obviously great justice was served but he was also in prison for 16 years like you can't get that time back and that shit's just not okay yeah exactly so are they still making it into a movie i feel like it's like enough i don't know now the movie has another twist oh that's true a sequel like um this is a terrible story yeah really pittsville yeah majorly pittsville and i wonder like what is her explanation like uh she hasn't said anything right so i'm sure she will yeah I think that the man was looking, hoping for perhaps an apology from Miss Siebold.

So we'll see what happens. Oh, terrible. Well, those were the Fast Life stories. And I feel as though you need to know them. Yeah, I do. I really, really do. And the show's not even far from over because we have so much TV to talk about. I think we should just get out of the way selling sunset that's like what everyone watches week

season four or five whatever can't keep up is on there's also like another season coming that they have footage for because like jason and what's her face are together but like we didn't get any of the jason cruchel how stupid we didn't get anything we didn't get anything though i did feel like there were a few moments of crumbs where it's like okay jason's in love with i think they did that intentionally like every time like cruchhell was talking they would show Jason like when she was flirting with that Marvel guy in the office and Jason was like getting all angry like they were toying with us but they ultimately gave us nothing yeah so the season I really don't even know where to start because I think it was one of the worst seasons of TV I've watched in a really long time, which is just so shocking because I think that like they don't really have to do much to keep me entertained.

Like the houses are beautiful. The women are beautiful. The editing is great. It's like gorgeous L.A. The way that this I watched 10 episodes about the same thing and I didn't get any of the women together until the last episode was like reality tv faux pas no it was really atrocious um every conversation was about like the conversation before and the one before that and the next one that's coming well then I had lunch and we're having lunch my worst thing I hate most about reality tv I understand that sometimes you have to like keep the ball moving but it was the only thing that was happening there were no like organic moments that happened I think that

we've all realized that this show is very much manufactured in the sense that like these women probably don't work for the Oppenheim group sell real estate but like you put a bunch of interesting women in a room together and shit's gonna start popping off so I'm fine with that but it was just nothing nothing happened the only thing that we're talking about is something that happened five years ago and I'm having a hard time even believing that that even happened because what are the odds that the man that Christine's boyfriend was the woman that the Christine's boyfriend was cheating on her with also works at the Oppenheim also works at the Oppenheim group and everybody knows her except but this was Christine's first time ever seeing her yeah so I feel like they made up that whole situation and then so Christine made up some more on her own side so here like

when it boils if I really have to get into the weeds and like and dissect this idiocy which I was just so uninvested I don't even care to have an opinion but if I had to my opinion would be this Christine is acting very bizarre and her story is not adding up like she said the real like kink in the armor was when she said like Davina I was friends with Davina she knew I was engaged and then Davina was like no if Davina's not even backing up like you're fucked so I think that like she's definitely making some shit up and she's really not interested in being friends with these girls and she acted very bizarre and I really couldn't get behind her but more than that I couldn't get behind the massively loser energy that was just radiating from Mary radiating from Chrishell radiating from

Heather like the way Christine who they claim to despise is living so rent-free in their minds makes me actually have a lot of sympathy for these enormous losers like so for me I know everyone was so focused on Christine being like caught in her lies and I see that but I raise you the loseriest losers who ever losered no the loseriest losers and you know what I actually this season weirdly made me like Heather more than I liked her in the past that is so weird that you said that because I was actually like really vibing on Heather like I just was liking her energy and even when she was with the loser brigade she was being the she rose above it a little bit the least bit of a loser like mary and chrishell are obsessed with christine there needs to be like the bechdel test for the show like the quinn test is there people on the show who are not christine quinn yes do

they ever have a conversation where christine quinn is not mentioned no fails the fucking test not once do they get together and they do not bring up Christine it's like loser and it's just so crazy how like Chrishell is like everyone's queen when it's like I think her like and even all the vibe in the office and I understand where Christine is like coming from where it's like everybody just sits there being so fucking fake with their fake laughs and their fake smiles like with fake girl boss women empowerment and it's like so cringy and not authentic and then they accuse christine of being not authentic i'm like at least she tells you how she feels like you guys just like sit around being fraudulent being fraudulent just wanting to like come off

well on tv or whatever yeah but it's like it's so cringe the way they talk to each other in the office like those aren't real conversations no that's not how people talk human interaction and the way like they're just so like sing-songy the whole time and then they're like go bitch boss babe yeah like that is my least no and i think cruchel really said it best empowered women empower women no it's like i could die i could vomit like it's a power women don't say that it's like. I could die. I could vomit. It's a parody. Empowered women don't say that. Empowered women don't talk about being empowered. They just are. It's a parody of feminism and girl power.

It's cringetastic. I can't believe there are people out there who are inspired by this. No, and you know what? I really have had enough. And I don't think I can really ever watch a TV show ever again that Mary is on. She is a disgrace. She's the worst dressed woman on the planet. And it's only highlighted more because everyone, even Davina brought it up a notch. Like everyone is just sickening. That girl Emma like outfit outfit outfit. Heather looks so cute all the time. Christine outfit outfit outfit.

Chrishell looks great. Really professional. Mary is like shopping at a different store. And you know what? It's just something about Mary. There's something about Mary. Because when they went to that fashion showroom and they literally walked out in the same dress, they were going to two different places. Like literally, what's her name? Chrishell was going to the Oscars. She looked so great in it. And Mary was going to the diner like Mary just like cheapens everything and then when she starts to talk it like is so much worse I'm sorry I'm really going off no I can't stand her she's a bully too and when all these girls they just cry and like make and Christine was doing that too

like just crying and making us and something weird about like seeing Christine cry do you agree like yeah but it's just not adding up so I need to go back to Mary at the um at the Albright library because she's surrounded by gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous tings pick up pick out uglier things Mary I dare you couldn't be uglier but that scene of her and Chrishell like when they both put on the metallic dresses and they were talking about how they were super women and what would our superpowers be. I don't think there's a cringier moment in television history. And I'm sorry, but if that scene warmed your heart or made you feel warm and fuzzy.

Look inward. I was literally just dying of cringe. No, and that's the only time they didn't talk about Christine. And they were literally, I wish they would have. It was cringeness 2.0. Like, it was horrifying. No, but they did. If she's coming to the party tonight.

Oh, yeah, they did talk about Christine. And by the way, what the two of them actually wearing to the party, there's no way they got it from fucking Patricia Fields' warehouse right there. Totally. They looked really not great. They all looked stupid running around that house. The fashion this season, like, honestly. Emma was. totally they looked really not great they all look stupid running around that house like fashion this season like honestly it's emma was she was giving us so much barbie christine gives us

everything i agree chrishell has her sense of style that's super cute heather too mary not so much amanda always looks great yes and oh my god what a crazy shit that's going on oh my god yeah first of all i don't even think she set foot in like one house like she didn't work she wasn't uh selling sunset she was doing interior design and also dealing that was the craziest thing like how he just literally sent a letter and was like i gave up all legal rights to my kids so we didn't have to pay child support like that's so sad crazy she's a really good mom i actually really like her especially because she's like the only one who's like someone in the middle yeah and that she like I so Christine up until this season and still this season like this is my absolute favorite on the show before this season I was like Christine

Christine's a queen this season I'm like she's making it hard for her fans to defend her because like what the fuck is this story yeah um but I still would I'm still team Christine over all of the other women. They are so obsessed with her. It's crazy. They're obsessed and they can't take her. Like they were like, well, we want to speak to you as a group, which is obviously not fair for anyone. Right, because they don't want her to get away with her lies.

But like, okay, speak to her one-on-one and call her out on her lies. But that's not why they want to speak to her. Like that's just a lie they made up. They just want to speak to her all together so that they can be ganged up. When they were in the car, they were like, we have have each other's backs like it's easy to talk to anyone even the most person who hasn't done anything wrong if it's three against one right and it's like they don't realize this and I'm sure I feel like a lot of people don't feel this way I know I'm in the minority here but like they are the mean girls whenever it's everyone against one

person and one person feels alienated and even like Christine I feel like eventually she lets her walls down it's like do you know how hard it is to walk into a room where everyone hates you she did it so many times this season and was like so you know I guess fake and like smiley and hi everyone how are you giving everyone hugs but like that fucking sucks yeah and yes she did but also I wish they would be more specific about what Christine did to the other women yeah like so we know that uh we know she said some shit about Tarek you know in the cupcakes whatever. Yeah called the relationship like stupid. When Chrishell says that she tried to like ruin her reputation ruin her as a person at the time when her parents were both passed away. What is she talking about? I don't know.

No me neither. They needed to be more specific because I I couldn't sympathize if I don't know the crime. It makes it seem like you're just like making stuff up. The thing is it because I I couldn't sympathize if I don't know the crime it makes it seem like you're just like making stuff up the thing is it's like I don't really ride or die for Christine anymore like not close to how much you do but I don't think she's necessarily in the right I just refuse to be on the side of the three biggest losers in the history of television therefore by the transitive property makes me team Christine yes and I will say in order of loseriness it goes let me hold on let me on. Let me think. Mary's one. Mary, Christine, Emma.

No, no, Chrishell. That's what I meant. Yeah, Mary, Chrishell, Emma. Then I would put. Heather. Heather. But she really didn't bother me. Until the end, she like stormed out and like had a moment.

And Tarek is like so trying to make something happen. Like, it's fine. She's an idiot. Like, she's just like, calm down, Tarek. But I do think Heather and Tareq are a match made in heaven. 100%. They seem really happy. Happy for them.

I'm happy for them. And it definitely changed my POV about them. I wish them a lifetime of love. I agree. Even now I really understand Heather's mindless news. Like it's really I think just like what they do on a daily basis. Like dumb things. You know and they're so excited about like little things that they're doing together and they

just want to share it. I'm totally fine with them. I agree. So that was a turning point for sure. But just even Emma, who I thought was going to come in and like be really cool as a person, just went on the loser train, choo-choo. Choo-choo, bringing her empanadas everywhere. And I did look up her vegan food company because she acted like she was super successful.

Of course, she's Skinny Girl. And I just want to let you know, she's not. I just wanted to clear the air for everyone. She's not super successful. And of course, like, she has to say that she flies private because she needs to take her big dog with her. But there was a dog birthday party and she didn't even bring him. And that, to me, just, like, didn't add up.

It's also a TV show. Like, she's not flying private, first of all. Like, even if your vegan food company, like, is really successful, like, do you know how expensive it is to fly from Boston to L.A. multiple times a month? It's like 50 grand every time. I'm sorry. She's just not doing that. Yeah.

Also, when Mary, like, had a conniption that Christine. Mary is just erratic. When she had a conniption that Christine came to the dog party. Oh, she was acting like a lunatic. Christine was so well behaved. And then when the two of them are at the Albright closet. And they're like, well, maybe if Christine comes, she could be drama free and they're like has she ever been every single time Christine showed up this season there was no fucking drama it was just like Mary

and Chrishell spinning their wheels oh you know who like got on tv and got like a little empowered Christine's husband he's like they're just jealous babe like you're married they're divorced they wouldn't dream of taking trips like we do on our weekends. Right. Like, I was just kind of, like, cringing a little. It was also really weird that they had that conversation in the middle of the street. Yes! Like, you guys have a house.

It's beautiful and quiet and peaceful. Go! And if you want to talk shit, do it there. It's crazy how frequently people in LA just move. Yeah. And actually, Chrishell's house that she ended up getting is really nice. Like, it's on this canyon. Yes, and I'm happy.

I'm so happy for Chrishell that she has a place of her own. It's a wonderful thing like to to be able to own a home without anyone being able to take it away. That part I actually liked.

Yeah. But she became every episode just like losery and loserier and loserier and loserier. No somebody lied.

The whole world is lying to her. But people really feel this way about her where she's like their queen. America's sweetheart. And I'm really every season I was like you know what Chrishell's gonna have

an amazing season like she's such a big star dancing with the star she looks amazing she's like you know she's moved on from her heartbreak and she's in this like new season of her life and she was still a big loser and um I just can't I can't either like it was there was so much cringe so much cringe and the way she acts around celebrities like it's inappropriate actually like for the workplace but I do I could see how Jason is in love with her I was like maybe it was editing but I was like okay also that guy from Marvel was in love with her and the basketball player right and she should have gone out with a guy from Marvel and also the basketball player was really hot she should have went out with him

too yeah maybe she did yeah but she's also very flirty they're like touching and i was like i don't think this is appropriate realtor contact no and like are you really supposed to hug your realtor every time you see them 100 i don't even like to like hug you every time i see you like it's really weird yeah no there was a lot of hugging a lot of inappropriate like workplace conduct especially in the pandemic especially on behalf of chrishell yeah I agree but like they're just like a hugging bunch over there totally and oh my god the shoes like I don't know how they walk around these houses and these all these houses in LA they're like ice castles like they're not warm there's no carpet it's like hard corners and hard marble stairs four flights flights of flights of stairs I'm like and they're walking the crazy shoes and

you know what like Davina's been trying to keep up with the looks like she obviously went to and like bought everything those like tweed looking dresses that everyone got but she could not walk in heels have you noticed that about her like she's trying so hard to keep up she physically cannot yeah oh wait we didn't even talk about Christine the pregnancy and the rumors that she faked it I really don't like to entertain like conspiracy theories like that. Like it's moronic and offensive and I don't think she faked her pregnancy. I don't think she faked her pregnancy either.

I think that, and people, even if she didn't fake her pregnancy, people are like upset with her that she's like, you know, putting out this like standard of postpartum that is just so fucking unattainable. But it's like, I feel like, and I'm pregnant right now

and I love seeing Christine two days out of labor like walking down the street wearing like head to toe and because that's really what she did and like I feel like I see so many realistic portrayals of what postpartum actually is whether it's on Instagram or like on TV movies books like you know that it's really not very not easy very unfabulous yeah but it is kind of cool to see this like person who really is just having this incredibly fabulous experience I know that's not going to be me but like it gives you a little hope it's it's hopeful yeah I mean I did not find it offensive whatsoever no me neither and I mean I'm not pregnant so I don't know what it's like but like also like that's really what

we're arguing about like there's much bigger problems in the world it's really like it's crazy and also she really did work out like through her entire pregnancy she was doing pilates literally a week before she gave birth like if that person is gonna be perfect after they give birth they deserved it if that's what it takes yeah i won't be doing that right and that's why i won't look anything like that right but i really like i found it to be so interesting to just watch her postpartum journey be so radically different from anyone else on earth it looked tiring I just wish like the heels she would cool it with they were when she was super super pregnant like walking around like town in those shoes

it's actually giving me terrible anxiety like one snap of the ankle so dangerous yeah I agree but that's Christine she was literally on another level this season. Yeah, she was. Also, the Real Housewives of Potomac finale was last night and Nicki Minaj

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That's HushBlankets.com to take advantage of the Black Friday sale. Amazing. So Nikki wrapped it up last night. She was like coming hard and like dying on random hills. Yeah, they weren't my hills. No, and I just thought it was weird because like, okay, she was, first of all, I thought the conversation about Michael's sexuality, which like, of course, I think a lot of people wonder, it was just like really inappropriate to have right in front of Ashley.

And it was like kind of fucking rude. And I just didn't like it. I agree. And I just felt like with every woman, she like poked and prodded at the worst thing. Like, yeah, that's not what we we needed you here like to be our voice and you're just like talking about random shit yeah giselle and robin being lovers oh so stupid like so stupid i agree i liked her presence i liked her energy and i love how much she loves the show clearly and and knows everything that has happened but it's just I didn't feel

like she was speaking for me she wasn't speaking facts and also because like she got this position because of you know justice for Monique and it wasn't mentioned no but that scene with Candace singing like was truly painful first of all the fact that she was so hesitant and like wouldn't sing her own song was so bizarre so bizarre because she has we hear her sing she's an amazing voice she sings on the show happy birthday like oh my god no one could have a birthday without candace i think that i'm the candace of the morning toast and of course if nikki minaj was like sing toast by claudia atre like i would die and i would feel so awkward i probably wouldn't do great but i wouldn't say no yeah it

was weird like i was just weird out and then she did it she didn't sound amazing she sounded decent but she was obviously really nervous so she was a little pitchy but it was fine my god is Chris Bassett such a fucking drama queen or what like coming in what you're mad at Nicki Minaj do you think she fucking cares right it was that was a weird moment but it was actually nice of Andy to come over yeah because like Nicki really did put her on the spot and she was visibly uncomfortable. Like Nicki doesn't care. No. And like it was painful for everyone and I can imagine it was actually really painful to be there and I thought it was cool that like Andy came over and like congratulated her and was like calm down you're gonna be fine. Yeah and at the end of the day

like you performed for Nicki Minaj. Like how many people can say that? Once in a lifetime. I agree. It really I was so excited for Nicki's presence and then it just it didn't give me what I needed just because she was going off on things that really didn't bother me no and like she just chose like one or two issues with every woman and like I didn't even notice half the shit that they were talking about like she was just like going on tangents about the most irrelevant things like I wanted her to go with Candace like like, really talking about her anger and the common denominator, the Monique of it all. Like, I would have loved Nikki's take on that.

I would have loved Nikki's take on, like, Wendy being so rehearsed this season, like, with her weird TikTok zen win. Like, I would have loved Nikki to, like, go in on her. I also thought Nikki, like, paid a lot of respect to Karen and put Giselle a little in her place. Like, it's, like, enough like enough already with like the age jokes. Like you're obsessed with Karen. Yeah.

And Karen was the only one who didn't really get anything bad from Nikki, which made the whole thing worth it. Yeah, I agree. It was nice to see respect, just as for Karen, at least if we can't get it for Monique. Oh, and you know, Karen got a spinoff with her family. Oh, exciting. Did you know that? I don't think so. Yeah, Karen got a spinoff with her family. Oh, exciting. Did you know that? I don't think so.

Yeah, Karen got a spinoff. And also last night, Portia, her show, she got a spinoff after Atlanta premiered. There wasn't a lot of promo for it, but I watched it. It was very good. Oh, exciting, exciting, exciting. You love to see like who gets a spinoff and who doesn't. It's like the most interesting game in the world. Yes.

But ultimately, like I'm glad that Nikki showed up and that that was something that we got to see you know I I would like I'm open for more in the future with other major celebrities who are big fans of a franchise please do not overdo it do not ruin a good thing because it was just like a fun exciting thing yeah that happened and even though I didn't like feel like I got what I needed what I needed it was something new and that's so great and we were a part of something we were and it was like exciting yeah it was um so I told you about Mia was just all over like I know I really was like rooting for her at the beginning of the season and then like it got so hard to root for her and I was thinking to myself like why am I rooting for

this person like yeah I'm getting nothing from it no she's like she's insane yeah she really is and then when she was like, oh, by the way, like the scene where Nikki was like asking Candace about like how many drops, I mean, how many albums she sold. And Nikki was like, you sold 500,000. Like Adele's album just now had 622,000, which is the biggest this year. Like, so Candace, you're telling me like your song got 500,000 purchases? And even 20,000 is a lot.

Yeah, but I think that that was the real number. And that's a really good number. Yeah. Yeah. That conversation made me want to die. Yeah, but I thought Candace actually handled it pretty well. Yeah, considering. Being put on the spot.

Like, you could just tell who Nikki liked and who she didn't like. She doesn't like Candace. She likes Karen. I think she likes Robin and Giselle. She doesn't like Ashley. No, what the hell? she likes robin and giselle she doesn't like ashley no what the hell oh my that was crazy she likes wendy yeah see that's why i just didn't agree yeah agreed um okay so i told you about the jonas brothers roast like please do not waste your time i'm going to watch first of all they advertised like all these comedians gabriel iglesias gabriel iglesias was not in it he was in like a little stupid like clip

in the credits basically like like the flow of the night was like some people came out and roasted like Lily Singh came. That was a that was a tough one. Priyanka did a pretty good job. Sophie did like an okay job. Danielle Jonas like all the wives did it but then like Danielle Jonas was like had a bunch of cue cards

up and she was like I lost my voice and then she roasted him on the cue cards. But obviously she is like nervous because she's like not a performer she's not an entertainer and it's like in front of like a big crowd of like 100 people overall it was just so stupid like there would be a roast and then they'd cut to like a package you know so they did this thing with like you know joe and niall horan did like undercover soul cycle moronic kevin did you know football training at the rams sofi stadium moronic like there was so little roasting like traditional stand-up roast some of it was good they had this british comedian i never heard of jack white wall or something hilarious but how was pete davidson when he made

that one funny joke yeah that was it like that's literally the extent of his time on the thing yeah there's nothing it's like he was so good and he's at the beginning. So me and Ben were like so excited. He left. Comes back for one tiny little segment. That's it. Oh my God. So it was just and then John Legend came like roasted in a song which was like a cute idea.

But no like none of it was working. I was really surprised. Damn. I'm still gonna watch it. But I guess my expectations have been lowered. Yeah they should and overall like my takeaway is like Joe is still my favorite okay I'll let you know what I think then Kevin then Frankie then Nick um you watch anything else yes no I read Golden Girl by Ellen

Hildebrandt the book you raved about um and I liked it I mean now that I've really sat with it I thought it would be more on my mind and like it's not I agree with that it's not on my mind because it was this kind of like deep book about like the afterlife and I loved that part of it I thought it was like really like a nice way to think way of thinking about like people who have passed away how like you know they're not really worried about you we're like in pain they're just like at peace I loved that but you know my biggest complaint with the. They're just like at peace. I love that. But you know, my biggest complaint with the book was that it was unbelievably long. And I was actually texting with Raquel Moffs and we, every, every book you recommend to me, I recommend to her. And she loves

your recommendations, by the way. She just did. It happened one summer. I told her, I'm like, it's a little pornographic. She said, it's fine. So then I was like, I read Golden Girl by Ellen Hildebrandt. I think you would like it. But like, it is really long. Like pages and pages of descriptions just walking into a restaurant. Okay. She's like, I can't do it. Like I, it's my deal breaker. Like I can't.

So now I'm looking back on the book with like hatred in my eyes just because it took up so much of my time. But like, it also was a good book. Like the plot twists, like it was great. The concept was great. But now I like, I just have like hate in my heart for it. Got it. The way that I feel is I do think it was too long and it could have been shorter but I was enjoying it so much and I haven't really been so into a book in so long that it was like

why would I want this to end yeah let's keep going I know but even like the best book in the world like all good things must end yeah but I it was my favorite Ellen Hildebrand book that I've ever read and I read the whole Winter in Paradise series. We read Perfect Couple, which is so good. Is that the wedding one? That's the wedding one. I loved that one. I liked it better.

I read 28 Summers. I think that's what I'm going to read next. I like this one the best. And I would recommend it to everyone. But speaking of books, we just recorded our final Redheads episode of the year. We read The Midnight Library by Matt Haig. And I'm just going to give you a little spoiler, which was that all four of us loved it oh good it was so good a dana's choice it was a dana's choice and obviously she always hits it out of the park so not only do we recap the book but it was and

it was a book like also about the afterlife so just really interesting thought-provoking discussions about like parallel universes and like what happens when we when we go and every decision that you make in life how it affects like the rest of your life where would you be if you know I didn't go on that teen tour that's what Martha in the book helps you with right it's actually quite similar but the midnight library is shorter it's will I like it I think that you would it's a snitch it liked it so if snitch liked it I think you would like it it's written perfectly like there's not a wasted sentence love that every sentence that is packed with meaning anyways we recap that book and then we do our 2021 year in review of books we each give our top three redheads books of the year and top three non-redheads books of the year was my book this year it was technically yeah right okay but it was also in like the poll oh that was march madness

that was yeah that was all Redheads books. Got it. So this was just 2021 things that we read. So does my book get included in your recap? You know, we didn't mention it because I read it in 2020. Like to me, when I went through my Goodreads, I rated it in 2020. So it sat there. It's fair. Yeah.

But I actually should have because I was coming up short with like what to make. I didn't know. Anyways. Girlwithnojob.com slash book. and there's a redheads episode about that anyways new episode of redhead shops on Thursday it's literally so long if you don't want read the book and don't want to um you can listen we recap the book or you can skip to the 2021 year in review part because I think we got a delicious it looks like we have a delivery that's so delicious anyways we just talk about all the books that we read this year all of the best books

of the year and it's really good oh we just got like a sickening delivery delivery. Okay, get back here. Give me mine. This is the Tim Hortons Justin Bieber collab. Tim Biebs, you see? Tim Bits is what they call their munchkins. Is there any food in here? Yeah. Oh, fuck yes. I know you guys love how we, us eating and getting, oh, what is this? Oh, there's also, oh, a pouch. It's their munchkins it's okay so do you know tim hortons yes i do it's like the dunkin donuts of the north what flavor is that it's like birthday cake with stuff on it do you think hailey eats these yeah oh they're all the same flavor there's also also such good. Oh, my God. These smell so good. Hold on.

You'll like them. Oh, a fanny pack. Oh, my God. This is so good. You know, birthday cake is like my favorite flavor. This is so cool. Is it a fanny? Did you know we were getting this?

No. How'd they get the address? I don't know. That is so bizarre. Did you get them? No. I think you did. That is so bizarre. Did you give them? No. I think you did. I swear to God

I did not. Well, thank you. Thanks, Justin. Well, I'm done. Are you done? I'm done. That's our show, you guys. Thank you so much

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