The Toast - S4 Ep216: Is Doody Funny?: Wednesday, December 15th, 2021

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

Mason Disick advises Kim Kardashian not to let North West go live again (Page Six) Ben Affleck Says He's 'Probably Still Be Drinking' If He Stayed Married to Jennifer Garner (PEOPLE) The Voice Crowns a New Champion! Found Out Who Won Season 21 (PEOPLE) Kathy Hilton reportedly returning to 'RHOBH' after getting more cash (Page Six) Stephen Curry Makes History, Breaks the NBA's All-Time 3-Point Record: 'Officially the Greatest' (PEOPLE) Vanderpump Rules Recap The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast and happy hump day! We made it to the middle of the week. Congratulations. Pat yourselves on the back. You did it. You deserve it. Woohoo. Happy hump day, everyone. What an exciting day. We're cruising down the hill of the week. We are getting over the hump and that's really exciting. It's really exciting and you know what? I didn't even realize it was hump day. That's why I love my job. Let me tell you why. Because at 1030 every morning, I know what day it is.

You know, I didn't even think about what day it was at all while I was getting dressed. Only when the words came out of my mouth did I realize it was Wednesday. And now I've just been given like a burst of joy. Yeah, I realized it was Wednesday, but I never realized it's hump day until we're sitting here talking about how we're going to hump someone we love today today until I come into the studio and wrap my legs around you I'm looking for you so yes by the way we only have three more shows left in the year 2021 including this one speaking of 2021 we actually recorded such a fun podcast episode yesterday reviewing and recapping all of our favorite things of the year. TV shows, books, songs, stories, music, etc.

And it was a great way to round up the year and move forward into the next one. Yeah, I feel like I kind of unburdened myself in the podcast episode. Like this is what I liked. I'm ready for new things. And it's important to just like take stock of your year, where you're at. Of course, like you need to, you know, look in the rear view in order to see where you're going and I feel as though that's what we did you know I feel as though that as well I love year-end reviews I honestly I wish there were more like in the stories and stuff there haven't been like a ton of like best ofs right recaps and I

always just love them me too what would you say was besides like for what we enjoyed like what was the tv show of the year because last year was like so Queen's Gambit. Oh. What do you feel like the biggest show of the year? Like so it would have to be something something that was like a one season. Yeah like the first season of something. Like I feel like it might be like White Lotus. Oh my god yeah. I forgot about White Lotus. White Lotus I don't want to spoil anything but it didn't make my top five best TV shows list. Only because while it was like probably one of the biggest shows of the year, I didn't find myself enjoying it.

Like the show was so fucking slow. But that was, I think, the show everyone kind of like gathered around and like became obsessed with briefly. Yes, I completely forgot about White Lotus. I wonder if I would have remembered if it would have been on my tops. Probably not because I didn't like it until the end. Of course. And then like I had to watch a man take a dump everything that was so funny even though it was so uncalled

for and unnecessary it was genuinely it was original and like I don't find duty funny no you don't but they made it really funny no like you read you know Franny and Zoe you don't find duty funny no I don't find duty funny but it was a funny duty I'm not gonna lie like I have you know I have found duty funny you you it's okay I don't say I wouldn't say I frequently find duty funny but I'm not gonna lie to my audience and say I've never found duty funny you know two types of people in this world people who find duty funny and people who don't and I'm sorry like sometimes duty is funny like that's the name of today's episode a hundred percent is duty funny question mark um we've got a great show for you guys today fast five we've

got a little tv recap Vanderpump Rules was on last night and my blood was boiling my blood was truly boiling over my blood was boiling but you know what I did this morning I finally took our advice from a few weeks ago of listening to a podcast while we got while I got ready because there's been one episode I've been dying to listen to, and that's Give Them Lala with Sophia with an F. Oh, I thought you were gonna say the one where she talks about-

No, no, no, I feel like, so there's been a few where people are like, she's talking about it, listen here. Right. And it's still been pretty vague, and I actually felt like in her interview with Sophia, she talked about it more than she does when she's sitting down to talk about it.

Did you also- I need to let everyone know, Lala and Randall are not getting back together. No, of course not. Like not even close. Do you know that Lala filmed the reunion remotely while everyone else was there? And Katie did too. Why?

Because Katie got sick that morning. I saw on her Instagram. I didn't say whether or not it was COVID, but I guess if like you're running a fever and not feeling well, like don't go into the office. Yeah, of course. And that's just a good lesson that everybody should learn. Beyond COVID.

Like I think, yeah. Like the fact that people were, just going in sick before. Well, the fact that you get, like, a certain number of sick days. Like, I can't control my body. Yeah. No, that was just a crazy thing that I hope does not come back. And, like, so if you're sick, even if it's not COVID, stay the fuck home. Totally.

I completely agree. That's sick. Okay, so we'll talk about Vanderpump Rules in the TV recap segment. But how was your day? How was your Tuesday? It was good. You know, it was another bruised day. We actually were really bonded yesterday.

And things were going well. Our heated blanket finally arrived. And even though it wasn't exactly what I thought it was going to be from QVC, it still has been really special. And I think Bru is enjoying it. I'm so glad. So that's what matters most to me. What matters most to me is the fact that I was alone last night watching the Knicks game

because Ben was like, turn it on. I think you could see me. And like, of course I couldn't see him. But then I guess it was like some big deal Knicks game yesterday. We'll be talking about it in the stories. You're lying. Some big sports news. Wow.

Was it a really bleak day for stories? Yeah. And I told you that. But I didn't realize it was that bleak. You looked you knew. I did look yeah but I figured you had all the bases covered. No and I love a little sports news and this seems like a big deal and because Ben was there it's a bigger deal. And you know what let's not lest we not forget the last time we spoke about sports news we literally predicted who would win the Super Bowl because it wasn't the San Francisco 49ers time. It wasn't it really wasn't who was your pick again for who's gonna be in the Super

Bowl this year I don't fucking remember some reason I thought it was the Bills versus the Bucks I did say something like that everyone was like honestly that's a really good call but I swear to god I was watching TV on like Zach was watching a game on Sunday and it was the Bills versus the Bucks so does that mean my thing's not possible? Maybe it was maybe it wasn't that. I don't know. You know what Bills versus Bucs sounds good. Yeah no the Bills are really having a great season. Are they? That's what I've been hearing from the chatter from you know when I go to make a snack. Yeah yeah yeah when I think of the Bills I think of all those videos of people throwing themselves onto folding tables. Okay.

And then I also think of OJ Simpson. Because he played for the Bills, didn't he? Yeah, like, that's how I think how he got famous. I always think about, I just remember seeing a video of, like, when the team returned, they, like, got really far. And, like, all the fans in Buffalo, like, went to the airfield and were standing outside the fences, like, so excited to see them. You know what else I think about? Jason Tardik. Because he's, like, obsessed with the Bills.

And then now I think of Josh Allen, who's the quarterback, who I watched this promotional package about, and he just seems like a really great guy. Oh, got it. You know what I think about when I think about Josh Allen? I think I relate to this man, because he was, like, the number one pick in the draft, and somebody exposed his tweets, and he went from being number one to being, like, number 1,000.

Really? But he still, then he got, like, on the Browns, which is, like, the worst team of all time, because, like, he was, you know, he still, then he got like on the Browns, which is like the worst team of all time. Cause like he was, you know, dropped, but then he picked himself back up, you know? Got it. Sounds like draft day, honestly, especially if the Browns drafted him. And you know what? What do they say about draft day?

You never know what could happen. You never know what could happen on draft day. And that's the sports segment from Jackie and Claudia today. The first one of many. Yes. So let's just fucking do it. Let's jump right in to the Fast Five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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10% off your first month at betterhelp.com slash toast. Wonderful. Our first story is some really, really cute, sweet news about the campers in the Kardashian family. The fucking Kardashian campers are going to make me cry. Mason Disick advises Kim Kardashian not to let Northwest go live again. So last night, Kim posted to her stories a screenshot of text messages from Mason that he's giving North some advice. And I think it's just like great advice in general.

Well, if you didn't see before, this clip went viral. I guess North has an Instagram now or something. She was sitting in her house and she went live on Instagram for like a minute. And obviously it got screen recorded and, you know, sent out nationwide. And she runs into Kim's room and it's just cool to see Kim like, you know, after hours, she's just laying in bed, scrolling her phone by herself. And North comes in, she's like, mom, I'm live. And Kim's like, no, you're not. She's like, yeah, I am. And Kim is like, you know, you're not supposed to do that. And then North, the phone gets shut down. So it was just like a gorgeous insight into, you know,

I'm appreciative to North for giving me that moment. Yes. So then Mason texted Kim. He obviously heard about this and said, hi, I don't want to disrespect North, but I don't think she should do the lives unless someone is with her because people are always screen recording and she might tell information that isn't correct and stuff like that, that she will regret. I did might tell information that isn't correct. And stuff like that. That she will regret.

I did the exact same thing as she did. I would do the lives. And now I regret saying one of the things that I said. Just in case. For safety. And then Kim wrote. I appreciate you looking out Mason. And I agree.

She felt bad. And I don't think she will do it again. But it could be good if you talk to her about it. Stop. I'm going to cry. He said. I'd love to talk to her about it next time I come over maybe then Kim said I would love that thank you sleepover soon so I okay we all

remember the time where Mason was wild letting us know the traps and Kylie are not together and I actually think that that's the one the thing that he regrets I mean I didn't watch all of his lives I don't know what he said what no that he shared. No, that was the one. But that was the big headline. No, also there was the drama with Jeffree Star. What did he say? Like he was going on about Jeffree Star or something. Oh, but did he say anything not factual? No, I think he just started beef and Jeffree Star was like. Anyways, it's just like that is the cutest text message. And I've never been like such a Mason stan or like really kept up with him. And I just always think of him as like a mini Scott. I feel like they have the exact same personality.

They talk the same. They dress the same. And then so to see a bit of like his insightful personality coming through, I'm just like, is Mason the number one camper in this group? Right. I mean, the reason why I love this story so much is because it's layered first of all love to see a king who you know learns from his mistakes like you know and not only is he learning from those mistakes he's trying to spread the good word to other campers so that the other campers don't make the same

mistakes that he did right I thought the way he texted Kim was so respectful like I don't want to disrespect North like because North is obviously like an intimidating bitch like you know like no one's queen of the bunk right like nobody fucks with North like so I think for Mason to kind of step up like that took balls it really did and he did it in a really respectful way I thought it was just the cutest exchange of all time and I just like I could literally dissect these text messages for two hours. I know and I know people are like feeling weird that Kim posted them and I guess she didn't need to post them but the way that I read that like I'm so glad that she posted them

because it really gave us a window into you know the lives of these campers. And the dynamics between aunts and nephews and nieces. And that they clearly have like really good heads on their shoulders. The only thing is like it's a little bit sad that the kids can't just be kids you know yes I mean yes I thought the same thing like the fact that like Mason is leading a life of regret because he went live and said something untruthful which I'm sure the kids at his in his school do all the every single day yeah so like the fact that they all have these phones that could like literally like show us everything that goes on behind the scenes and we're expecting children to like understand those boundaries is a little not normal for sure but

that's there's also a lot of benefits it's not normal that they've never flown commercial like of course no there's pros and cons yeah for sure and I'm sure even their parents like when they do mess up with stuff like this like probably aren't make don't make it as big of a deal as it actually is because they're just trying to punish them like normal kids like stepped outside of bounds as opposed to like oh my god you just created headlines around the world on north's live like kim wasn't like screaming like if that was me i would literally like if ben came in the room and i was like sleeping and he was on live i would literally slice his neck out like so kim was very patient though right i would probably have a

little bit more patience you'd be like you don't do that Kim was very patient and the whole exchange afterwards especially because it was Mason's birthday so I think she was trying to show everyone like how Mason is so like mature and he really grew up and she called him a respectful king um an insightful king I think she just wanted to show the world like this is Mason and you know what I really appreciated that because I don't really feel like I knew Mason before this no I agree or any like ideas that I had about him or just not the Mason that he actually is like I feel like I know North's personality I feel like I know Penelope too from her TikTok yeah but to see this side of Mason and he is the oldest camper in the bunk and there are so many campers these days and more are coming

and to know that he is like just looking out for the bunk it's a beautiful thing you know what I got from this is that the bunk is in under amazing counseling like they are their fearless leader is not too proud to own up to his mistakes to learn from them to grow from them and to share those lessons like it's I'm gonna cry no and it's also beautiful the lesson learned it's not even unique to just this bunk like these are universal lessons yeah sharing social media when you're young hello like yeah just what you got to watch out yeah you got to watch your back and I'm just really grateful that the kids they have Mason to look up to because he's clearly like turning himself into some sort of role model. Some like guru.

Literally. Yeah, I agree. This was a beautiful story. I think we could all learn from Mason. And overall, like I'm really glad that Kim posted these text messages, even though I know that other people are like, why would she post this and put Mason on blast?

Now, do you think that Kim got permission from Kourtney to post the text messages? Me too. I do. I think that she should have gotten permission. And you know what? It goes without saying, because I think a lot of people are really hard on Courtney for some of her

like parenting decisions, which is no one's business. This is a testament to the way he was raised and it's a testament to Courtney. And you know, if I was Courtney, I would want these text messages shared too. Yeah, I agree. Okay. Our next story, someone else speaking out, Ben Affleck says he'd probably still be drinking if he stayed married to Jennifer Garner. Ouch. That's nice. Ben Affleck is speaking candidly about his relationship with alcohol. During an appearance on the Howard Stern show on Monday, he got candid about his struggles with drinking while married to Jennifer Garner, with whom he shares three children.

He said, quote, I'd probably still be drinking. It's part of why I started drinking, because I was trapped. I was like, I can't leave because of my kids, part of why I started drinking, because I was trapped. I was like, I can't leave because of my kids, but I'm not happy. What do I do? What I did was drink a bottle of scotch and fall asleep on the couch, which turned out not to be the solution. Yeah, I mean, I guess his headline is misleading.

He wasn't saying, like, Jennifer Garner trapped him. Like, he trapped himself in his own mind because he wanted to, like, stay with the kids. Yeah, but that's a harsh quote. Like, she drove me to drink. And I'd still be drinking. And married to her was making me drink. Yeah. Like justice for Jennifer Garner. I know. But I feel like Jennifer Garner.

Like couldn't care less about Ben Affleck. Yeah. And when these stories. Like I do feel like in their relationship narrative. It's like always like Ben Affleck. You know he was with the nanny and stuff. And he was always like. The SNL writer.

And like even when they were still married. It was like he was the villain. And she's just like this sweet innocent lady like being a mom and like how can you do this to america's sweetheart it's true and this just like firmly esconces them in these roles and so i don't think this is doing any damage to like her personal brand she's just like oh you know like yeah that's my crazy ex-husband yeah I don't think she's bothered by it because you're right and she's she's in a relationship right she's like super happy she's so moved on she's so moved on like I don't even think she literally could shed one tear for Ben Affleck so I honestly and you know I don't even think she cares that he's back with

the woman that he was with before her like that's normally something like a woman would care about I think Jennifer Garner like so is so ambivalent about Ben Affleck like it doesn't bother her I agree with everything up until I think that probably deep down she is very bothered really yeah I don't think we'll ever see a glimmer of it but I imagine that's quite bothersome I don't know she doesn't seem like the type of gal to be bothered that's just how I perceive it. I think it's too big not to, you know? But it's so much time, like. But still. It's like 20 years, right?

The history, it's too, it's not just like an ex. You know, they were supposed to get married, like, and then he totally flipped the script and married Jen and, like, had all these kids and, like, that was the happy ending. And, like, then the plot twisted again. I know, but by the time, like, Jen was finally able to get rid of him like I just I really don't know I don't think she's like RDH and like oh my god what about me but it's like it almost like I mean of course they have these kids together yeah just like wipes clean it's

like oh he was you know this feeling about her the whole time like he was in love with her all along I thought I was the winner I don't know I see Jen Garner a little differently than that but I could see your side of it as well yeah anyways I don't think I think that this you know just kind of makes Ben sound like a dick um but he was also probably just being honest like about how he got to the place where he was at and drinking and sometimes honest truth is ugly it's hard yeah you know yeah no Howard brings that out in people yeah so and I'm sure he's regretting saying it because it's like no it's being picked up everywhere yeah and it looks really bad and it's a fucking slow news day so like this is literally the only thing the morning toast is talking about yeah no it was like number one story everywhere um also probably one of my favorite

facts about Jen and Ben Gardner is that their daughter's name is Serafina. Yeah, because they have a respect for a delicious restaurant. For the McDonald's of Italian cuisine. Yeah. So good. I think I'll have that for lunch today. Oh, it's been a while for me.

It's also kind of heavy for lunch, but you know what? It's the Wednesday before winter break. Like, fuck it. If you're not having pasta for lunch, what are you doing? Fuck it. Are you ready for our next story?

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The winner of season 21 of The Voice is the band Girl Name Tom which is a win for Team Kelly which is really why what I care most about I don't know what like if most people care like which judge wins. Oh I care. I feel like it's such a big deal for the judges. Yeah. And the only like the finalists were from Team Kelly, Team Blake, and Team John. Yeah Ari was out first. Which is really sad for Ari. Which is surprising too because I saw this cover of Ari and the two remaining acts on her team. This woman who had the most amazing voice

and this father-son duo. And they did a cover of Four or Five Seconds by Kanye, Paul McCartney. And Ariana did the cover too. They're sitting around this campfire, Jackie. You have to watch it. It's the most premium content I've ever seen. They're harmonizing to perfection.

And I was like, oh, the girl sitting on Ariana's right is obviously going to win the show, but she didn't. Damn. I mean, there's a lot of talent over there at The Voice. Totally. Even those, I just saw a tweet that went viral that was like, you know, I actually want to quote it 100%. Verbatim.

Yeah, give me a second while you read the details. Girl named Tom's win marks a fourth victory for Coach Kelly, who also won last season with her contestant, Jake Hoot, earlier in the night. She's won a lot, because she also won with that girl, Britton. Four. Four times? Yeah. Earlier in the night, Girl Named Tom performed the Jonas Brothers'

Love Before You Leave Me with Kelly, and they beat out fellow team Kelly contestant, Haley Mia, and Blake and John's finalists as well. Okay I can't find the tweet but it was basically just like nobody from The Voice who has won like ever becomes famous it's basically just a talent show. One thousand percent. But there are a lot of people who are extremely famous who like didn't win The Voice but were on The Voice like Morgan Wallen started out The Voice, Rae Lynn it's really in country because like Blake Shelton like does the work um but people who have won I don't know one person who's even remotely famous no I totally agree it seems like

a really fun time it is a talent show and whether or not you win has no bearing on whether or not you will have success yeah but same with like um American Idol I would say in the since the resurgence the most famous person to come out of American Idol is Gabby Barrett and she did not win. Yeah since the resurgence. I haven't been following since the resurgence. Oh I have because it was it was pretty good. Um the Gabby Barrett season was actually very good. Yeah but that was the first season back. Yes. And then since then they did like COVID seasons as we know from last night's VPR, where Lala's assistant. Yes, was a digital producer. Yeah.

But back to the story. So, yes, I'm very interested in which, I'm actually more interested in which coach wins than which artist wins. Because they really like use it as bragging rights when they do their banter all season long. And so now like Kelly's sitting pretty. This is two seasons in a row. And you know what? With Ari, like I hope this doesn't discourage her. And I really hope, I don't know what her contract was, but I hope she stays on.

I think first of all, it's great for her commercial appeal. And I think she did wonders for the voice. Like I've never seen so much voice content being like targeted towards me on social media because she really just raised the bar for everyone. And I think it made her friendship with Kelly so cute. And I really, I really hope she comes back yeah I hope so too I mean I'm sure the contract was more than one season and it was a big shuffle people in and out like Nick Jonas is on The Voice for 30 seconds yeah but I they're just

different you know obviously someone sometimes people come in as a judge and like you just know in your bones it's a temporary situation. Yeah, it's not permanent. Like, they're sitting in someone else's chair. I feel like they let you know that. You know? Yeah, Nick Jonas definitely felt temporary. But Ari doesn't feel like forever.

She's not Blake Shelton. But I feel like she could be, like, a Gwen Stefani who was there for a good amount of time. Yeah. But she's just, like, she needs to stay, like, for the show. I'm telling you. Like, the show will not be good without her. Well, once she's going back on tour and stuff.

But I think for just this time in her life, and she's newly married, so she's staying, like, home and local. I think it's great for her. She always, like, has looks, and now her Instagram's, like, popping off because she's dressed up every day. She used to just, like, take selfies and turn them upside down and post that and be the most followed woman on Instagram. That's so true. But now it's really interesting. Yeah, yeah, no. be the most followed woman on Instagram.

It's so true. But now it's really interesting. Yeah, yeah, no. I'm telling you, like, I really hope that she's enjoyed it as much as we have enjoyed watching her, welcoming her into our homes. Agreed. And I'm so happy for Kelly. Like, we were just saying this yesterday. Like, it's all coming up Kelly.

It's all coming up Kelly, you guys. And this is further proof. Happy for her. And I haven't heard this band, but it sounds like a name that was thrown out for Tom Sandoval and his cover band, but they decided to go for Tom Sandoval and his cover band. But they decided to go with Tom Sandoval and the Most Extras. But it could have been Tom and the Girls or whatever this band's called. Girl Named Tom.

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story, which is a little more TV contract news? Is it the more TV contract news? No, it's not? Okay, cool. No, I don't think it is. Okay, okay. It's that Kathy Hilton is reportedly returning to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills after getting more cash.

Kathy Hilton is reportedly returning to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills after getting more cash. So rumors have been swirling that Kathy Hilton was asking for a big payday to return to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And now they have made a deal. So she will be signing on as a friend of for the upcoming season. Is that what she was last time? Yeah. If even that. She wasn't like holding a diamond or anything.

And she will be joining the girls even though production has been halted because of a bunch of women got covid oh again garcelle not the same oh i saw garcelle on twitter and rena and one other person interessant yeah very interessant anyways she felt like she was being undervalued on the show and now they have reached a she's right a tristess good do they say how much she got paid now no i'm curious it's definitely not above like the highest paid ever was obviously denise two seasons four million dollars yeah but also it couldn't it can't be more than what kyle's making because that would just be like so upsetting and if i were kyle like that I'm sure it's already frustrating like Kathy literally comes on the season for does the show for two minutes like

does nothing and is like America's sweetheart whereas Kyle's been working at this for 10 years whatever but I'm sure like it's fun to be able to do it together but to come in in the next season and make more than her I think I don't think she would stand for that also as someone who's not even a full-time castmate right right, right. But also, contracts are secret. Like, Kyle would only know if Kathy's making more than her if Kathy's sharing what she's making with Kyle. Yeah, no, but if Kathy got, like, a blockbuster contract to be a housewife, like, I do think that might be in the news.

Yeah. And so I think she would have to talk about it with Kyle beforehand. Oh, my God, that would be so crazy. If she ever does become a full-time housewife, she probably could and would get paid more than kyle because like denise got paid more than kyle right he's a household famous person kathy hilton of course but it's it's you agree that it's different because they're sisters like that would i don't think that yeah but i don't think that she should get paid less because her

sisters been on the show for 10 years or like kyle should get paid if they want to pay kathy like say it was whatever two million dollars for a season and that's not what kyle's making then they need to up what kyle's making I just feel like that would be like so yeah but that's you're a righteous person but that's not how business works no but even I remember like Lisa Rinna said this once kind of I don't know if it was on an episode or a reunion or just off air where it's like for the women who are making that much more you need to bring that much she said it on radio andy i remember like about like vanderpump like who was making the most out of all of them then like earn your check yeah

and the rest of us like and i mean i don't think that it should always be that literal but there is some truth to it and so if kathy's going to be the highest paid housewife then she needs to be working the hardest yeah but the thing about kathy is like when she does the least it's what gives us the most like it's this weird dynamic i know but I just think it would it would cause issues in the group if she really just like floated her way in was making more than all of them it ain't right I hear you but I see her the same way I see like Denise Richards is an A-lister Kathy Hilton on her own outside of the show is an A-lister. Like that's what A-listers get paid. Right. But Denise, I think came in like ready to get her hands dirty and like be a housewife. And that's exactly what she did. And she really, you know, went through it.

I'm sure if Kathy was a full-time castmate, like she would make more of an effort, but she's a friend of like she, she can phone it in. Yeah. But I don't think that she, like, why should she even really want to make more of an effort, do more than she's doing, or like, get really in the weeds on the drama? She's not a dramatic person. she also has the perfect setup.

She's literally, I've never seen a friend of sit for the whole reunion. Right. She's a unique butterfly. she didn't sit the whole reunion, did she? Literally. I actually think she did.

They brought her out, and then it was squishy, but she didn't leave. She was there like, if she wasn't there 100% of the time, she was there 95%. Yeah. And that's never happened. A Scala was there like if she wasn't there 100 of the time she was there 95 yeah and that's never happened a scala was there for a flash yeah kim d kim g yeah one second i have harpern oh do you want me to get you a tum or something no i took my harpern medication like i actually think i have a tum in my purse though no it'll kick in soon are you sure why not i have a tum no i have tums too but like if'll kick in soon. Are you sure? Why not? I have a tum. No, I have tums, too.

But, like, if I already took medication, I don't want to take more. A tum is not medication. It's like a sucking candy. A gross one. Are you sure? I'm sure. Thank you, though. Thank you for your concern.

I just love tums. Like, I would never leave my house without tums. Anyways, I'm just concerned about Kyle. Because I just hope, you know, that would be really... And I would understand Kyle's frustration. Kyle has put this show on her back. Kyle built this show from the ground up. And for the other women, it's like an honor to have Kathy Hilton.

When it's your sister, it's like... In a way. No, it's just... It's different. No, and Andy did ask at the reunion, like, is there any jealousy? And she said no. And I actually didn't... I believed her.

But the only time I thought there was, like, a little bit of jealousy was when Kathy and Kyle were on Watch What Happens Live. It just like the Kathy show you know yeah and it's just like it's so easy like everybody loves Kathy it's so easy for her like yeah and she didn't have the first seat and like she didn't even care do you know what I mean she was like still the star in the second chair on Watch What Happens Live yeah yeah but like I'm sure it's been that way like their whole lives maybe you know where it's like one people are just different drawn to different people some people just have to work harder but you know what sister dynamics it is and you know what Andy said it best I think I think learning more about Kathy really made me understand Kim I agree with that like and I

actually wouldn't mind seeing Kim back like like the three gals back together, even though I don't think this show was good for her sobriety. I'm good on Kim. You are? I like Kim. Extremely good. Oh, I enjoy her. I think she's like a pj.

No, like now I do feel like I have a better sense of her, but I still don't need her like on the show. Yeah. So I agree with half of what you said. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Is it the fifth and final story that's brought to you by Manscaped? It's holiday season and you don't know what to get as a gift or a stocking stuffer? Well, today's sponsor, Manscaped, has the tools to guarantee you win this year's stocking stuffer competition.

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So which story was this? The fifth and final. The final story! Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do Breaking the NBA's all-time three-point record, he's officially the greatest. So Steph Curry made history in front of a Madison Square Garden crowd, which included Ben Soffer, on Tuesday night by setting an NBA record for the most career three-point shots made. The Golden State Warriors scorer faced the Knicks, needing just two three-point shots to pass the former NBA player Ray Allen's career three-point record of 2,973. Curry broke the record with seven minutes and 34 seconds left in the game. Who won the game?

Probably not the Knicks, honestly. Yeah, I would assume. Who would even know? Yeah, I know. Everyone's only talking about this. And also the former record holder was in the crowd. Yes, Ray Allen. I saw that on TV.

I was watching, and I literally tuned in at the perfect time. Ben was like, put it on. I'm like, I'm eating. And then like I moseyed my way over to my bed, put it on. The second Steph Curry like took the shot and everyone was freaking out. I'm like, what is going on? Well, I saw Steph Curry take the shot because Ben got it on Instagram. Ben got it on Instagram and Ben is like floating on cloud nine because like the you know there's

at every game there's a million photographers a million videographers but you know always the best picture of like an iconic moment like lasts forever in history and the photo that like you know the sports universe decided to use is literally Steph Curry and Ben like it's actually the craziest picture it's being posted everywhere and Ben is wearing his not like other girls merch with my face on it which basically like I was there too. It's you, Steph, and Ben. Right. And it was just like kind of an iconic moment for toasters. Always. And I love when there's a toasty influence in an iconic moment. Me too. And I think Ben was excited because he was also wearing a spritz hat. He's like a walking billboard. Like, yeah, he's like, oh, I'm going to the next game.

What should I market today? Yeah, no. And I think he knew he was going to have good seats and this could be a history making game and he played it well this marketing man no it was iconic like really truly iconic I didn't hear much about the game afterwards because Ben was just like so obsessed with this photo of himself he's like everyone's texting me stop I'm happy for him I'm happy for him too that's like for him that's like us that's like you being in the background of Kim Kardashian's paparazzi picture yeah I mean I wasn't Margot was but yeah no you were once remember after yes of course of life of course just my leg but it was good but then also Margot was too once yeah so no I understand that the power of this moment

for Ben and I'm thrilled for him I really really am um yeah that's really all I can say and I'm thrilled for Steph obviously obviously you love to see records being set you know greatness achieved and like the baton passing you know from one generation right Alan is retired so like from one generation to the other yeah and then the guy on uh CBS or TNT who was you know emceeing the show the the game the announcer the announcer yeah he held the record before Ray Allen and he was like when I had it there was no fanfare like we didn't keep these records like you know I didn't even know I I broke the record interesting yeah so it's like three generations Reggie Miller Miller, is that who that is? Sure. Three generations of record-breaking. It was quite beautiful.

Wow, that is beautiful. You know, you love to see it. It was a star-studded game. Ben said he saw Pete Davidson. Oh. And Pete Davidson is also in like all the iconic pictures from last night because he's wearing a neon pink hoodie, and you just like can't not notice him.

Who was he with? I didn't really see anyone, and I forgot to ask Ben but like Ben's not he probably wasn't with like obviously not him or anything I feel like you know his sister or something yeah well that's nice we would have known if it was Kim obviously yeah that's very cool I'm happy for Ben I'm happy for you know Steph Steph the Golden State Warriors the Knicks that you know something that they did people cared about no that's huge for a New York Knicks fan. I'm so glad you brought that up. And also what was really sweet is that the second he made the shot, he got subbed out and ran to the crowd and hugged his mom.

It was really sweet. That's really cute. Yeah. Kind of love an iconic sports moment. You know, historic. Yeah. No, it's cool to have big moments. Who do you think is the best basketball player of all time?

That's a really controversial question. I know. It's LeBron versus Jordan. Michael Jordan all time? That's a really controversial question. I know. LeBron versus Jordan. Michael Jordan. No, it's LeBron versus Kobe. No, it's LeBron versus Michael Jordan. I've seen bad teachers so many times they argue. I feel like it's LeBron versus Kobe.

No, Jason Siegel's always arguing with the campers over LeBron. It's LeBron versus Jordan. Would you know, Artem? I think it's more Jordan. More Jordan. More Jordan. though it seems as though none of us are experts no but like what about Kobe Kobe is a great player but it's LeBron versus Jordan I'm gonna call Ben okay hopefully and then also get his take on on like LeBron or Jordan everybody like who has cares about these things has a really strong opinion about it. But Ben is obsessed with Kobe.

Maybe that's why it's in my brain. Yeah. No, but it's like, I think also depends on the position that you play. Because even though Steph Curry just beat this record, it's not LeBron versus Steph. That's true. So it's like how much...

Of course, this motherfucker is always calling me. He literally calls her during the show every single day. Oh, every day. I could try my husband. Yeah. Why not? I don't know where to be. No, he didn't pick up.

Pick up. I'm telling you. I feel like I'm right. Like, I just. No. No? Okay. Like, I.

Wow. Straight to voicemail. Wow. Oh, my God. Savage. Are they cheating on us? Maybe they're together. Being like.

Oh, and my phone's broken. Oh, my God. Okay. Do you know any more men that you could call? Zach Shapiro? Oh, Shapiro. No, he's more football. Okay.

All right. I guess we'll never know. No, they'll let us know. It's LeBron versus Jordan. And so who do you think is the best player then? Like, I don't know. I, like, don't know a lot. But just some of the information that I gather is like,

I don't really get the vibe that like LeBron is like a team player. And I feel like that's an integral part of being the greatest of all time. Interesting. What, what makes you think that? I don't know. I just like remember when I used to like actually care like about what Ben was watching. He was like a ball hog when he was like in Miami heat, you know? Yeah.

And also I think for a lot of people I don't know if people feel this way but just this is just like how I remember it like when he left the King Charles Cavaliers to go to the heat just to like you know win fancy down there and like live in South Beach and all that stuff it just like he was not in it for the right reasons yeah and then he came back to Cleveland which was nice because that's his hometown and he cares so much about Akron like he is the school but could you imagine living in Cleveland leaving no actually no I couldn't I couldn't so yeah I'm gonna go with Jordan I'm gonna go with Jordan too but I can't classic yeah maybe it's easier for us to choose Jordan because like he doesn't play anymore it's

hard to say that the person playing right now is like the greatest to ever do it you know but I there are like a lot of stats that people use to compare and contrast in these arguments that happen every day should we just take it to google i don't know you know i'm having phone problems so i can't even do it like my my keyboard's not popping up they're trying to stop you from finding out the truth it's true because it's kobe um okay, should we dive into the TV recap? Yes. Which is brought to you by ZocDoc. Has this ever happened to you?

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Sign up for free. Prioritize your health. ZocDoc, Z-O-C-D-O-C.com slash toast. All right. Vanderpump Rules was like unbelievably infuriating because I was feeling a lot of different emotions. Like I just actually, you know who's really, really grown on me? Like 10X. Raquel?

No. James? No. Ariana? Yes. Okay. She's just like funny and light and she really does not get involved in this whole drama. Like and you know she stands up for Katie more than her fucking husband does.

So I actually really like her, aside from the fact that, like, you know, I have sympathy for her. She has to live with Sandoval, you know? Like, think about that. I know. Okay, so when he was flat ironing his hair, and she came into the bathroom,

he started singing a song about flat ironing his hair. Yeah. And it was, like, really painful. What did you think about that? I thought that, I wonder if, like, he's this annoying on TV TV because I have this whole thing in my head. Like Sandoval saw what Stassi did and how successful Stassi was with her brand.

She like created this like basic bitch thing and it was basic bitch book, basic bitch this, basic bitch this. It was very seamlessly integrated over the last seven years on the show and that's why it was so successful. And I think he saw that, realized he's really not done anything even remotely similar, and wants to replicate it, and he's trying to jam in what Stassi did in seven years into one season of Vanderpump Rules.

By being extra. By being extra in the bathroom, extra with his band, extra in the restaurant, extra in the new restaurant, extra with his outfit, extra with the vagina candle, extra with the basket he brings extra at Tom's house. He's just trying to do the most so that like he too can be successful outside of the show now he has his cover band Tom and the most extras like it's so obvious to me what he's doing so perhaps Ariana like sees him at work being extra and is like okay I can tune this out because he's working right now I have to imagine he's not that annoying no one could live

with someone that annoying 24 7 like I don't believe that yeah I totally agree I also just have a logistical question because it looks like everyone was doing their own hair and makeup for Ariana's party which is fine but then she said I need your help with my hair I need your help with my hair but her hair was like sickening sickening best hair I've ever seen no someone did it but why would she say that I don't know someone did it why would she say that I don't know somebody I was trying to figure out how they could have done that together yeah so I feel like what was interesting is that this is the first episode where Ariana and Stassi are not fighting for like birthday things and like Ariana was like very um like light like she had a really good time I was like happy for her like

happy to see her that way Katie Maloney made me cackle so many times during the episode too she was being so funny she is like literally my queen no she was like her role on the show this season is just to give a voice to everything that we're feeling about Tom Sandoval like I know Tom Sandoval has a lot of fans and people just like love what he brings to the show and but there are also people who like they're also normal people they're in pain watching this and she is there to represent us and like when she said I would rather lick Tom Schwartz's foot after a day at Disneyland in slides than have dinner with Tom Sandoval that spoke to my soul. No she's giving a voice to the voiceless like she's just like literally a queen like I just agree with

everything she says like off the bat it's just such a delight to like have someone you can really get behind. Yeah and I haven't felt this way about Katie every single season a lot of times like I disagree with her I disagreed with her especially when you know if she was like going at it with her friends or whatever but like this season just everything she's saying is speaking to me and just because she doesn't give a fuck her attitude towards all of it is very relatable I just the only thing I want to push Katie to do is like somebody needs to give Tom Schwartz like an ass whooping like if that was my husband and he was out here like embarrassing me not defending me taking up with someone who's

speaking to me in that derogatory of a way like the talking to that my husband would get at home would you could feel the earth shatter like I would never accept that and I know she does her best but I think she could go harder on Tom Schwartz. I don't think so I think she I'm sure she's given him so many talking to's and he sits there and quakes and then when it comes time to talk to Tom Sandoval he sits there and quakes like he just like can't. The truckers for Tom. Truckers for Katie Maloney. Okay yeah yeah. But like he really is quite infuriating Tom Schwartz. And I just felt like when Katie was crying outside of Tom, Tom, because once again, like, you know.

Tom said that all the money in her house came from him. Which is insane. And also the way that he was talking about branding them as a duo, I did find to be like creepy and weird. And also. And predatory. Because you know what? Like, yes.

So you're saying like since the sidecar days you've been trying to make you and Tom a brand and you've always been doing it in a way that like makes Tom look stupid like you make him like your side bitch and you know what everyone Rihanna loves Tom everyone loves Tom so I think Tom Schwartz knows that like Tom no sorry Tom Sandoval knows that Tom Schwartz is like an asset publicly and made it his mission to like be a duo with him without Tom Schwartz really knowing because who the fuck thinks like that. Right. And also like Tom Schwartz does have a wife and if she's not down for this and if she doesn't like you then that's a problem. And I was actually so glad when Lisa said that was my idea because it was Tom and Tom were never like they were always you know really good friends.

But they also it was Tom Tom and Jack's like Tom and Tom became like this duo brand the restaurant with the restaurant and that was Lisa's idea and when she said it even I feel like a lot of the viewers were like wait why would you give a restaurant to Tom and Tom words like when there's what about like the witches of we ho or like there Tom never worked at the restaurant there were so many avenues she could have gone down and she chose this one and that was really her idea and like Sandoval trying to take credit for it and Lisa calling him out was a beautiful thing yeah no he just took credit for that conversation with son fureting i couldn't have sat there and like let

someone take credit for everything my my husband had done especially when you when you really look at look at it now like from like a bird's eye view he like kind of manipulated tom into this partnership where like tom is never thinking like oh how, how do I make my next business move? Tom Schwartz is never thinking that. And like Tom Sandoval consciously like sought out this partnership, making Tom Schwartz like the, you know, the dumb to his dumber, like, and, and then like wanting to be praised for it when nobody asked you to do that. Right. Also based on what I've seen this season, I think that Tom Sandoval is a bit fiscally irresponsible when it comes to his personal finances and also the business like all of these loans that are being taken out on a restaurant that is a risky risky gamble like this isn't the time to enter the restaurant

industry they already have a restaurant now they're splitting up their time the show's on its way down things aren't it's not really a good it feels like it's a last-ditch effort for them to like make something happen and it's far too late and I hope like when we go to get to the reunion we find out that this restaurant idea has been kaput if either of them actually get those loans like I will cry yeah it's like Whitney Rose but at least Whitney Rose has more potential than a second restaurant from Tom Tom I would say so yeah I would say a beauty brand in COVID is very a good idea and like she's on her way up this show is on its way up like this is a really bad idea on all counts and I just anyways when Katie was crying and she was just like I'm just so tired I just felt like she was like maybe she did feel

sleepy in the moment but the way that I read it was like I'm tired of this shit and like this show and this dynamic and like fucking Sandoval. And like having to force you to do what's right. Like for just. No, I mean, yes. But like, I think, like, I think that's so much of what Katie ultimately loves about Tom is like his good naturedness. And it's a sword that cuts both ways because he's not able to stand up to people. But I think she's just like tired of having to play in the sandbox with fucking Tom Sandoval.

Yeah. No, I think you're 100% right. I just don't really see how this show. Can go on can go on and when I was listening to give them Lala she was saying that there's like some I forgot her exact words but like there's a chance that she doesn't come back next season pretty much she felt like completely on an island at the reunion no one has texted her since about like the breakup and stuff except for Raquel and she was saying like that she might not be back next season that's crazy yeah I mean it's a sinking ship like no one wants to be the last one on it

yeah and she has the lead like of the OG castmates like she has the least invested and tied it into the show because we don't even see like give them Lala Beauty stuff or any of her like professional endeavors but like I mean Tom and Tom are completely pulled into the show. Tied to Lisa. Which ties Katie and Ariana and I mean Sheena as well. Still works at Surrey yeah. Does she? No not currently. Like they pretend to. Yeah but I think. But she hasn't been fired. Yeah no but Sheena's always been like kind of like a floater in the space. Yeah. And it works for her. Yeah. So it was it was actually a pretty good episode just because it like got me thinking. Yeah.

It got me thinking too. Of course I you know there wasn't enough Lala which was frustrating. Yeah. And it was making me sad like seeing like Randall helping her with her assistant like knowing like we'll never see that again. She posted a TikTok like you know every day for a week she's walking out of her front door and like a sickening new look. And the caption was like I didn't know when I was filming this would be i'd be preparing for my final exit like i guess she doesn't go live in the house anymore like and

she doesn't plan on it which sucks because that's such a nice house yeah i wonder where she's living right now i know i like worry i know she was like the whole time they were together she was like very much understanding that like it's a possibility that he'll do this again i can't be financially dependent on him so i'm glad that she did the books she does a podcast she does La La Beauty like I am worried about her financially like because Randall was obviously you know covering a lot of it yeah but she has systems in place I think and she's a smart cookie yeah so and her podcast was really good I was really enjoying um just like listening to it girl talk while I was getting ready.

It was a good vibe. So the reunion should be good. Also like with the Raquel and James stuff. Yeah. And then did you watch Katie and Sheena and Brock on Watch What Happens Live? No, I wasn't. It wasn't good because it was virtual. And so Andy was like out the door.

I'm surprised he was even sitting in the chair and not standing by the door. Like couldn't give two shits what they were saying. Asked them, they would literally give like an answer and then like they would say one word and then like launch into a sentence and he would cut them off before the sentence. Like it was quite painful on that front. That's the tough thing.

Like Watch Robbins Live is so like dependent on Andy's mood and no human being can be in a good mood all the time and especially Andy just is prone to I think being in bad moods um it makes the show extremely volatile and it's worse when it's virtual because like he cuts them off less in person because you know when they're about to say something else but like with the delay it's just like yeah pretty painful yeah so and I was just like I didn't understand why Brock was in frame too I feel like he was supposed to bartend and then for sure um he is so thirsty like so thirsty and then I didn't understand why Brock was in frame too. I feel like he was supposed to bartend. For sure. He is so thirsty.

He's so thirsty. And then it didn't work out, like them going to New York. And so he was like, but I still want to be on. For sure. That's really what I feel like happened. And so they actually had an audience member bartending, which was funny. That's cute. He was just like a random guy from Ohio.

That must have been like the best day of his life. Andy was like, how is it over there? And he was like like the same as over there oh wow that's actually funny um yeah brock is like so thirsty it's actually uncomfortable like his intent he doesn't even try and like be subtle with his intentions like we know exactly why he's with sheena yeah no and him saying like saying you know i asked you to post on instagram not give me a kidney it's like that's like just not what it's don't but like it's still a big deal it's it's a big deal for these people yes and he doesn't get that because I guess

he's not a big deal for him yeah um so that's a better from rules recap that's our show anything else you want to talk about before we wrap it up nope I think I feel wrapped up I just started a new season of Great British Bake Off and And so that's been quite soothing. I have like this roaring hunger pain in my stomach. Like, can we go have lunch? Sure. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Morning Toast, the millennial morning show where we deliver the fast five stories

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Okay, Ben, we're podcasting and I'm going to record you. So don't say anything crazy and I'm putting you on speaker, okay? We were having a basketball debate. You know, who do you think are the two best basketball players of all time? That people are always debating between. Who are people always comparing? They're always comparing Michael Jordan and LeBron James. Fuck.

Okay, I was wrong. And what about Kobe? No, by the way, real ones know that the debate should be between Kobe and Michael Jordan. Oh, I'm a real one. And not LeBron? That means... Oh, wait, Michael and Kobe? Michael and Kobe.

What about LeBron? Michael, there's a reason Michael Jordan has a $12 billion shoe empire. Michael Jordan is the goat of goats. Then there are two other people that you can consider when discussing greatest of all time. And you're either a Kobe fan or you're a LeBron fan. I personally have always been a Kobe fan, and I will say real ones are Kobe fans. But you can't be both a LeBron fan and a Kobe fan.

Okay, but then who do you think is best, Michael, LeBron, or Kobe? Michael. Thank you. Have a great day. I'll see you at home. Love you. Wait, Jackie said that LeBron James was the greatest of all time. No, no, no, no, no. We were arguing. You'll have to listen to the episode. You'll have to to listen to the episode we were arguing over what the debate is do people say it's Claudia said people argue between Kobe and Jordan no Kobe and LeBron and I said no people argue between

Michael Jordan and LeBron and Jackie was right Jackie was right thank you for settling that I love you bye okay I'm so glad we got that settled and know what? If you made it to the end of this episode, drop a comment on our most recent Instagram. Who's the greatest of all time in basketball? Is it Kobe? Is it LeBron? Is it Michael Jordan? Or is it Danilo Gallinari?

Or is it Chris Humphries? Should I call Ben back? Thank you guys so much. Have an amazing day. And we'll see you tomorrow. Bye. Bye.