The Toast - S4 Ep34: In Our Own Little Corner with Norma Kamali: Friday, February 19th, 2021

Episode Date: February 19, 2021

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast! Happy Friday, Friday! Gotta get down on Friday! So excited to announce that it is Friday and that we have so much weekend ahead of us and it's all right in front of us, you guys. So breathe it in, dig on it, vibe it. We've been waiting all day for Friday night. So exciting that it's Friday. So exciting to have another episode of The Toast. Another beautiful snow day. It started snowing on our way in. So hopefully again the snow was falling in the background. I know a lot of you loved that vibe yesterday. Walking in winter wonderland. How was your day? My day was good. I'm wearing new Redheads merch. So I just want to say like a little backstory about this sweater because I haven't had a chance to wear it yet, which is such a shame because when we...

It's a Shonda. It's a Shonda because when we started the Redheads and we made the logo, I have been dreaming of this cream sweater for a year. Like I just thought the logo on a creamy vibe was just going to be the cutest sweater. And it is. And I just hadn't had a chance to wear it. You look so cute. For a number of different reasons.

And I just love this sweater so much. Shopmorningtoast.com. It is still available and I think it's like my favorite sweater in my entire closet. Wow those are powerful words. No shade to the maroon one. Of course not. And no shade to bone how you durn. But this sweater just. It's a passion. It's a year in the making. It's also a it's a a physical tangible expression of your passion. Hundred percent. And that's, Jackie, that's beautiful. Thank you, Claudia. Also, the craziest thing happened to me this morning.

And I feel like I obviously need to tell you. And I feel like you're going to realize that it's so crazy. Okay, go. This morning, I had the same Uber driver that I had yesterday. And yesterday when I had him, he like has picked me up before. And that's something that started to happen to me. I've been having just like the same Uber drivers. Cause my morning routine is like in line with their morning routine.

But then, and we were chatting yesterday about how it was funny that, um, he's picked you up. He's picked me up. And I even got his, um, card for private driving just in case I, you know, I ever need a ride. And then this morning he picked me up again. That's fucking weird. I know.

And we were laughing. He was like, it's cause we're the only two people working no literally and like the city so it used to be the biggest city now it's so small it is so small and that's over the last six months I have had like the same uber driver a number of times like different of the same like a lot of different uber drivers but to have back-to-back is really crazy well I think it's crazy and it's it's crazy in an uber but I think to have the same back is really crazy. Well, I think it's crazy and it's crazy in an Uber. But I think to have the same yellow cab twice is insanity. And it's happened to me once.

Really? And did the driver remember you? Yes, but it's because like my drive with him the first time was so memorable. And how long apart were the two drives? In the same year. Wow. Because I, we used to take the subway to school but like when we were running late like we would take a cab and I remember one morning I was running really really late it was you had already you and

Olivia had already graduated and Margo wasn't in high school yet so I was traveling alone we used to travel together and I had like a really traumatic experience on this cab drive up to school because um I forgot my credit card and I was like freaking out and when he pulled up to school because I forgot my credit card. And I was like freaking out. And when he pulled up to school, I'm like, oh my God, I forgot my credit card. I'm like, let me just run in. Like I could borrow money from one of my friends and whatever. Instead of letting me out, the cab driver locked the doors and made a U-turn on Park Avenue.

And I was literally 15 years old and I was hysterically crying in the back of the car. Do you not know this story? No. I was hysterically crying in the back of the cab, like freaking out. And then I realized he was taking me back to where he picked me up I guess to go get my credit card but like the whole locking of and I just didn't know what was going on it was so scary so when I finally arrived at school I was like traumatized they're about to write me a late notice and I'm like miss Malamie like I literally was just abducted like I was hysterically crying I had to talk to the psychologist whatever so that afternoon I was

like fuck this I'm taking a cab home and I took a cab home and I had to talk to the psychologist, whatever. So that afternoon I was like, fuck this, I'm taking a cab home. And I took a cab home and I just really like bent into the cab driver about my really traumatic experience. And he was so kind. And then like a year later, he was like, he picked me up from school again, same block. And he was like, I think I picked you up before. Like, were you the girl crying? And I'm like, yeah.

So it was the second cab driver. Yes, not the first. Not the first one twice. Wow. That is a really crazy story I know I was shaking in the back of this cab like so afraid but like that's just living in New York you know getting abducted on your way to school yes that that really is it that's New York I was never really in any harm no but you just didn't know what was like where you were going and you

wouldn't tell me I'm like where are you taking me I was so afraid you know like those moments in life where like it becomes really real that like you could die yeah like sometimes on a plane that happens it like you get this huge lump in your throat of course and I realized like in times of trouble some people like are heroes and some people are just stagnant and I'm stagnant I couldn't move like I was frozen yeah well at least you know that about yourself yeah no it was actually an important lesson to learn at a young age and now like every time I'm in like one of those situations, I'm like, I'm going to be that girl. I always like to think like if I was on the subway and there was like something happening, like I would be the hero, you know, but I probably wouldn't. Yeah, it's nice. That's an interesting

thing to think about. Everyone thinks they'll be a hero, you know, but then it's like when push comes to shove, your body just freezes in those moments. You know, it reminds me of a quote from a book, The Nightingale. I'm going to botchch it but it's along the lines of in love you find out who you want to be in war you find out who you are yeah because in war i'm a big post big pussy i'm a big one really really scared of everything um we have an amazing show we do and also yesterday we interviewed norma kamali fashion fashion designer, icon queen, and now author. We were talking all about her book and all of her life lessons. Right.

And first of all, the concept of her book was so interesting. Like, she's in her 70s now. And she was like, here's everything you learned in your 20s or 30s or 40s or 50s or 60s or 70s. And I feel like she gave some really good advice to us and to our listeners. She really, really did. I felt very inspired after talking to her. Also, I was, like, all dressed up for the interview. My blazer yesterday was Norma

Kamali. I'm just a huge fan of her designs. And so it was really exciting to talk to her. But also, I felt very inspired after speaking with her. And I feel like the toasters will feel the same way. By the way, me too, because I'm now inspired like during COVID, especially after COVID to just like live my life to the fullest, like jump off a cliff. And she was like, you guys have to, she's talking to like us and our, you know, generation, generation, like we have to make up for last year. That's not how I was looking at it before we spoke to her. I was like, you know what, this year is a wash, like we'll carry on when it's over. But no, like we have to double down on living, as she said, when we can. And those weren't my plans before. No, me neither. But the more she said it, I'm like, you're right.

Like we've been robbed of a really important year for us. Yeah. And you can't just let it go on that way. Like you have to make up for it. Like I want to be exhausted by the end of this year. Right.

So I think some good lessons. Yeah, no, I'm actually already planning trips. I just want to warn everyone like the toast will be very spotty when things come back because I already have a trip planned in June. And who knows where else, you know, I'm going to go for the rest of the year I just like have plans no I think that's so great but also what this year has shown us is that we really can do the show virtually like remember when you were on tour and every time it was a struggle either

to find a co-host we were like what what's gonna be of the show yeah but either I had to find a co-host or we did a few times like where i would facetime you and record your audio like so crazy but now we really can do it remotely so i think that now that we know that we can enjoy the fruits of our country yeah we were here when we needed to be and then sayonara um so yes we have that and then we're also going to be recapping our toast movie of the week which was cinderella Which I actually have A lot of thoughts on That I didn't think That I would have

So that'll be in our TV recap segment And then next week Is our final It's the final week Of February A.K.A. Black History Month So we have one more

Movie we're going to watch If you have any Recommendations Feel free to send them To us because we Have not chosen it yet And we're going to Be choosing it on Monday

Yes also just like One update Personal update Last night I cooked A recipe from Ina Garten's cookbook, not the Modern Comfort cookbook from her How Easy Is That cookbook. Someone gave it to me and I made her lemon chicken and it was so amazing. So keto. I literally like it serves like four to six. There's two pieces left. Like Zach loved it. I loved it. I ate so much of it and it was like free keto food. I was so pleased and that was the first Aina recipe that I've cooked that I've really enjoyed right because you were turnt on her I was a little turnt on her I was like maybe Aina and I have completely different palates right and you know what that's just a fact of life right and I do think you need to find chefs who you agree with yeah I think I agree with the pioneer woman I've

been following her on TikTok and first of all her lifestyle is just everything like yeah get you a girl who could do both like you know saddle the ranch and then like make you a linguine of clams and she like loves her kids so much she has like a bunch of daughters and I just think like I want to be her when I grow up yeah a lot of the toasters said like that's me when I grow up yeah and there's like goals she has a blog and it was like so successful she got her own food network show and like now she lives on a ranch and she just like does super well I don't know where all this wealth comes from is it the blog and it was like so successful she got her own food network show and like now she lives on a ranch and she just like does super well i don't know where all this wealth comes from is it the blog is it food network is it family money like what does her husband do like i don't even care i just like i'm living for the wealth yes goals goals goals goals goals um so we have like decent

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First story, the big news of the day. Mr. Big will not be in the Sex and the City reboot. Page Six has learned that Chris Noth will not reprise his role. Chris Noth or Chris Noth? Well, it's probably Noth since I said Noth. I think I just say Noth. Okay. But I have no evidence, evidentiary support. Page Six has learned that Chris will not reprise his role as

the iconic Mr. Big in the Sex and the City reboot. They're also told that David Eigenberg, who played Miranda Hobbs' love interest, Steve Brady, won't be returning either. Are you fucking serious? But a rep told Page Six on Thursday that the actor is in negotiations to appear in the series oh my god first of all okay there's so much to unpack here especially because i don't know if i've mentioned i've restarted re-watching i'm on like season five already i watch it every night ben loves it and it's just like a great show and it really is like a study for me of just this really interesting television show that is for some reason making a comeback when literally nobody wants to be a part of it and the more I watch the more I realize okay the show is literally carried by Samantha and Miranda Charlotte too but really Samantha and Miranda Samantha's not

going to be there love love love the episodes with Mr. Big like I actually sometimes skip relationships like I just skipped burger because it's so painful and so Big is one of my favorite relationships so was Aiden Big's not Somebody on our Instagram left a comment. It's totally unfounded by evidentiary support. But they were like, there's been a rumor for a while that they're going to kill off Mr. Big, which is fucking crazy. But if you think about it, how can they not have him in it? What, Carrie gets divorced?

Right. After everything we've been through in the last two movies, like they didn't end up together. That's such a good point. The only way out for him is to die. And Steve is literally my favorite character he's right so funny and like I'm just re-watching and with a new mature lens and knowing that we're getting the show back with literally the characters we didn't ask for aka Carrie it's very upsetting yeah I know but you know what these new this news just makes me feel

even better about my decision to not be watching I was gonna watch but now it's like it seems like Carrie Sarah Jessica Parker like wants to do it and like they're just gonna do it because she wants to do it even though all the other people have really moved on in their lives like at some point like you just have to stop eating a dead horse right and I don't think that the people involved in the show realize that Carrie is the worst part of the show. Like they think that she's a star as long as it's Carrie. As long as SJP is there. Right. SVP. I said SJP.

Oh, I thought you said SVP. No. But that's not the case. No, you're right. You're right. They think that it's, obviously she's the protagonist. The show works around her. If she's on board.

But that's not, it's nothing of the sort. Yeah, I actually really want to urge the creators to really reconsider this. Like, you know, when you did the two movies, it was a bargain. But you know what? I actually really enjoyed them, even though they weren't great movies. But I do think, like, at this point, you are going to put the legacy of the show in jeopardy. And it's, like, really not worth it. And I just, I beg you to reconsider, especially now knowing that so many people do not want

to be a part of it. Kim Cattrall, Chris Noth, Steve. Like, are you fucking kidding me? What is a show without Steve? Yeah. And how would he not be in it tell me him and miranda broke up again so we're just ruining all the happy endings that we've cultivated which is why i want to stay in where we're at i don't want to know what happens after the second movie if this if these are the changes they're going to be making yeah and especially with steven and miranda i feel like to break them up is just like it sends a bad message like they were really i think of all the couples the realest one like they had the most real lives you know yeah they

dealt with real issues like Carrie is like you know she somehow never has to pay her bills and big just like buys her an apartment like that's not real life like Miranda and Steve like that is a real relationship and if they break up like I will actually be so annoyed yeah I agree and I don't know how many reboots need to fail before the people in charge realize that they are nothing of the sort. Yeah. But I do feel like this is something that's just going to have to play itself out.

It's a lesson you have to learn the hard way. Yeah. And it really makes me sad to think that we are living in like, you know, the peak of science and math and creativity. And like somehow Hollywood has all the money in the world and they just continue to remake things. And don't get me wrong.

Some of the remakes are good, but it's like, can anyone have an original idea anymore no they really can't like even like the shows that have gotten so popular like Bridgerton based off a book Queen's Gambit based off a book okay but based off a book is fine I mean Gossip Girl was based off a book Sex and the City is based off a book that's true but like Hollywood has not come up with something original no but they need to like keep basing things off of books. I think that's a really great road to go down because I read so many books

and I'm like, oh, this would make an amazing movie. But then they make the movie and it's garbage. Yeah, I'm just saying like, even though, it's good.

I like when they do things based off of movies. It's interesting to know that we're living at like, you know, it's never been more technologically, creatively advanced

and Hollywood can't come up with their own original thought. Whether it's a movie or a reboot, a book or a reboot. Like, why don't you come try something new? Start from scratch. Yeah. But if, you know, all else fails, stick to the books.

Yeah. I do often read, I mean, I can't believe they haven't made an Evelyn Hugo movie. Because it's like so good. They might. Yeah. It takes time, these things. I really enjoyed that book. Yes.

But even like Game of Thrones book. Book. Yep. Twilight book. I mean. even like Game of Thrones book. Book. Yep. Twilight book. I mean. To All the Boys I Love book. Did you watch the third one? No not yet.

I haven't really been watching. The Kissing Booth was a book too. But I cannot get into my whole spiel about The Kissing Booth. I don't have the time today. I'm tired. No you can't. I haven't watched a lot of TV recently. But I think this weekend I'm going to pick back up Downton Abbey.

Bruce and I starred in an episode yesterday. And that's his favorite show of everything that I watch. I just want to give him that that's so funny Theo's favorite show is Friends right and that's so Theo so Theo even though I haven't watched Friends in a few months you know I got to take breaks to keep it fresh yeah I feel that I had I took a really long break from Downton Abbey I don't know I just got busy I feel that but um we're I'm getting back in it's just so good oh and I have to catch up on RuPaul's Drag Race before tonight I'm actually so excited oh that's exciting oh also today is like the best day to just stay home yes watch the morning toast and all your shows not that you would make it a story because I know you don't watch but so last season on RuPaul's Drag Race there was a contestant whose name was

Sherry Pye and she was super talented and she was never on the show like she was there the whole time we never got to hear her critiques we never got testimonials from her and it was like they literally cut her out of the show and it turns out um that after they filmed but before the show aired there was like 12 people who came forward with allegations of catfishing sexual assault and that's why they cut him out of the show then tamron hall announced last week that she was going to have him on her show and there was so much backlash like you know give your platform to the victims instead of the show then tamron hall announced last week that she was going to have him on her show and there was so much backlash like you know give your platform to the victims instead of the perpetrator but he went on she aired the interview it was like 15 minutes and it was really bizarre um but he just like came out and said like yeah i did all of that like i have bpd like he said i'm

not blaming my mental illness but it was like a really weird interview but what i thought was most interesting was tamron before the show did like a solo monologue addressing a lot of the backlash that she got and she was like I am a reporter I'm a journalist like I have interviewed rapists murderers you know her sister was murdered and she was like I would even interview the man who was accused of murdering my sister so I thought like her whole spiel like addressing the backlash was actually really um an interesting take on it but it was like a crazy weird saga that I was a part of because I was watching last season that it now finally came to an end and it was it was a really bizarre interview. Wow I didn't know that Tamron had him on but I do remember when everything went down as last season was airing.

Yes crazy. Crazy. Okay next story some love is in the air news. Love is in the air. L. Every sight and every sound. What's that? That's a song. L. Love is in the air. You know that song? Keep going. Look it up. Love is in the air. And I don't want to run around. That's a song. No, you're singing like the tune of a song. Yeah. But the love is in the air. I don to run. That's a song. No, you're singing like the tune of a song. Yeah. Love is in the air. I don't know. Well, it sounds like a good song.

So if it doesn't exist, you should record it. No, it totally. I think it goes like this. Love is in the air. And while I'm aware I want to run. You know, something like that. It's like from those movies. Well, you know what the good news is?

If it is a song, someone will let you know what you're trying to get out. Yeah. Just drop it in the comments. Love is in the air. Something like that. Okay. Michael B. Jordan says, I love you to girlfriend Lori Harvey in a sweet post of their night out.

That's cute. I saw these pictures like. Stunning. Find me two better looking people. No, I know. And also like their valentine's day was like the peak of romance everything of the sort so many flowers so everywhere you looked flowers flowers flowers and on thursday the black panther actor shared some new photos of him and

his girlfriend from their night out writing i love you baby in the caption so this is big news like because we reported a few weeks ago that they're together. Then they were literally on a ship. And now they're in love, which is so special. Yeah. I mean, there are all these conspiracy theories that it's like a PR relationship. But I just refuse to believe it. Because this is just such a pairing. You know, Hollywood elite royalty, Lori Harvey. And, you know, heartbreaker man of everyone's dreams, Michael B. Jordan.

That it just makes too much sense to be a setup. I really believe that. I really believe it too. Where is this aquarium? Do you know? No idea. It was just such a beautiful evening. Yeah.

And I'm so happy to see that they're in love. I hope that this relationship, like, I hope they're together forever. Blossoms, like all the flowers that they brought. Like, just beautiful. I would love to, like, learn more about them. I know they would never, but, like, that's the type of couple I would watch a reality show on oh my god a hundred percent I just I actually feel like the life of Lori Harvey is so interesting because like Steve Harvey is so fucking rich like you never met someone so rich in your life and he just comes from this like

and she comes from this like a royal Hollywood family and I would just love to know more actually I really feel like the Harvey's would be good for a. And I don't think it's so out of the question. Like, it probably wouldn't happen, but it's not so far-fetched. It's not so far-fetched. I think now that Lori Harvey's dating Michael B. Jordan, like, she might have, she might be beyond it. But I think before that, they really have such an interesting life. Like, Marjorie's, like, a huge philanthropist.

Steve doesn't stop working. Like, his radio show, his talk show, Family Feud, like, literally Miss America. He's Ryan Seacrest on like 10 times and actually and they have a lot of kids so actually i think that's a really great platform for them did you see the commercials for the new show for real hosted by andy cohen it's like yes yeah that looks great yeah it does look good he it's basically like a docu-series where he is talking to reality stars and and sort of going I think I'm assuming each episode will be dedicated to a different reality show where he like gets all the behind the scenes oh I thought different reality star

no I think a show oh interesting and so he'll get like the genesis all the time like not just like this age we're no it's like from survivor to vanderp. Right. I thought it was such an interesting concept for a show. Maybe I only think that because I would literally like smell Andy Cohen's farts. Like I would do like I don't care. But it did look really good. And he's the perfect person for it. Yeah, it looks really good. So that's exciting.

For real. Yeah, for real. Speaking of love news and reality shows, Dale Moss says he has a lot to smile about after reuniting with ex-Claire Crawley. You guys, are Claire and Dale back together? Dale is all smiles after he was spotted reuniting with ex-fiance Claire Crawley. Claire and Dale, that's so funny.

No, it reminds me of Frozen. Yeah, of course. The former Bachelorette contestant who announced his split from Claire last month shared a photo of himself on his Instagram story with the caption, a lot to smile about lately. days before his optimistic post he and Claire hung out at Nokomo Sunset Hut bar in Florida according to photos obtained by TMZ the pair spent time at the bar before heading out and walking down to the nearby waterfront

the outlet reported okay this I did not see coming and I really think the only thing sadder than the way things happened is if they get back together yeah to me this is not tracking for what I had thought so maybe I need to rejigger what I thought because what I thought was like Dale was like coerced into this relationship like was really not into Claire and got out the second that he could so if that's the case you don't go back to that person no so I'm confused now I'm confused too but I thought that no I think that like Dale obviously things didn't play out the way he imagined but I think that he had feelings for Claire and let's see where things go but it felt like he was unfaithful to her and dishonest with her and so like what is she doing with him once again oh

well and then if that's the case and there was a real estate agent we never that's the case my respect for Claire right all the way down right like come on I don't yeah so I I do want happiness for her and like if this is it I'll the thing is respected but I just I feel like it's just like she was disrespected right I want happiness for her too but at this point like I really do not trust her judgment when it comes to relationships like that's what I learned from her chaotic energy on her season and that's sad that is the truth and that's what we do here this is the morning truth yeah and some of those truths are hard they are they're very hard very hard okay next story a little royal news that i'm confused about okay prince harry and megan markle confirm they won't

return to royal roles the queen says all are saddened like is this one year ago how is this new news but it's everywhere breaking news well because Megxit was like supposed to be a temporary break they're stepping back that with the implication that you could step forward again and now it's like I think I assume that too but this is like a full confirmation that it's like they're out for good okay i thought megxit was for good i guess i did too but i don't know how you step out and step back in like how you do maybe you just needed a break like i think maybe people thought that this was a break but they're laying down roots in calabasas and netflix like disney plus they are so never going back and i think they've gotten a

taste for the civilian life their version of civilian and it's too delicious to pass up. All the money. Yeah, it's not civilian. It's Hollywood royalty. But it's still civilian. Yeah. Like, you don't have royal duties to your country. No, of course not, but it's A-list.

Yeah, of course. Like, civilian is... No, their version of civilian. Like, my version of civilian and Harry and Meghan's are just, like, kind of different, you know? Yeah. Not that different. Well, Meghan and Harry will officially not be returning

to their royal roles. Buckingham Palace confirmed in a statement on Friday, as was speculated the couple who left full-time royal work in March of last year will no longer keep their patronages, a.k.a. their royal involvement with numerous UK charities. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have confirmed to Her Majesty the Queen that they will not be returning as working members of the royal family. The statement continued from Buckingham palace following the conversations with the duke

the queen has written confirming that stepping that in stepping away from the work of the royal family it is not possible to continue with the responsibilities and duties that come with a life of public service and i'm sure they're like oh no right we have a question i mean i think colloquially i think that's the word like i will always refer to Prince Harry as Prince Harry because like his first name is Prince and his last name is Harry like that's just I was just going to say this too but I never really got into the habit of calling Meghan the Duchess of Sussex right um so she'll just be Meghan Markle to me but do they technically have the titles or I think they are still the Duke and Duchess of Sussex I don't think calling him Prince Harry makes any sense anymore.

Okay, but like he's Prince Harry. Colloquially, yes, he's Prince Harry. That's how we know him. So what do we call him, Harry? Yeah, Harry and Meghan. Harry Windsor. Okay, Harry Windsor's just like never gonna catch on for me.

No, I mean, obviously you call him whatever you want, but like he's really not Prince Harry. No, but like is the media gonna be referring to him as Prince Harry or Harry of Harry and Meghan? What does the headline say? Prince Harry.

See? Right. Some things just don't go away. Trust me. It's like a nickname. What? It's like a nickname. Yeah, but there can really

only be one Prince of America. Prince. Who's that? Prince. Oh. The singer. Okay, I didn't know, I thought you might say

like Joe Jonas. Oh, of course. Sorry, there can only be two princes. Sorry, I fucked up. Joe Jonas and Prince. Yes. No, this is like is like crazy but it's also like we already knew that like we've been expecting this I never thought they would be going back but I guess in terms of like the way that the crown has to release information like this was the next step like I'm sure they knew

a year ago they said okay you'll leave and then we'll release another statement in 2021 yeah saying we'll break it up yeah make it like less of a scandal even though what when it all happened last year it couldn't have been bigger news right are you ready for our fifth and final story because my ipad is dying oh shit yeah but also i can't believe megs it was only a year ago like i know truly six lifetimes ago we were in the old studio sorry go finish your ipad demi lovato has brain damage after suffering three strokes and a heart attack following her 2018 overdose. Demi Lovato is telling it all on Wednesday,

YouTube premiered the trailer for Demi Lovato dancing with the devil, a documentary series about her near fatal 2018 drug overdose and the effects it had on Lovato's life. The trailer gives the first look into what the 28 year old songstress faced after being hospitalized. She also reveals that she had three strokes and a heart attack in the hospital. Damn. Damn.

I watched the trailer. It was like three minutes. It actually looked very titillating. Yeah, I saw the beginning where she was like, I'll just say everything and if we want to cut it out. Yeah. And it seems like they didn't cut anything out. Right, because they left that in. Right.

I love the title, Dancing with the Devil. Me too. And I love her sister who played Juanita on Desperate Housewives. I love. And she's in it. Oh. So that's why I'll be watching. Mm-hmm. But I do think it's played Juanita on Desperate Housewives and she's in it. Oh. So that's why I'll be watching.

But I do think it's, I've always said this about Demi Lovato. I think like the way that she has a lot of young fans but like is always really open and transparent

about her struggles with addiction and substance abuse is super, super admirable and it seems like in this documentary it's no different. Like she's going really deep.

Yeah. And we all knew, you know, we were here when it happened. We knew the information that we were given. I had no idea that it was this bad, that it was like near death. Yeah.

And they're like, she's still suffering, you know, from the complications of the incident. I agree. I appreciate that she's always so honest with her fans. I think that's something. It's one of the best things about her. It's one of the best things about her and something that we get really frustrated with other people about, like that they say one thing and do another. And I always appreciate her honesty she's released documentaries in I think in the last 10 years

there's been two other ones and then in each documentary she's like oh well in the last one it wasn't totally true true because of this and that she said that in the last one about the one before it yeah and I mean she can release whatever she wants and she is always like being honest in the moment but I it is frustrating to like know that like she could come on this documentary and be like well I was lying in the last one right it does yeah but that's but that honestly I feel like even though it's frustrating as a viewer I feel like that's honestly parallel to what it's like to like know someone or live with someone who struggles with addiction yeah but I agree it's it also is a lot she's been through so much it's a lot of documentaries three documentaries for

someone who's I don't even think she's 30 yet I imagine documentaries are so like emotional and painful and you just like excavate everything about yourself yeah but maybe they're also therapeutic I actually I could see them being both that is therapy you know yeah but also like for me I would like not want to sit down and watch what all these other people had to say about me like oh that's how you feel cool yeah and then you have to go back to being like friends with them yeah it's like even though I know what you said about me in your documentary yeah that's an interesting process yeah I actually love celebrity documentaries I feel like we talk about this a lot some of my favorites are Gaga 5'2 um one of the other ones that I liked?

I could pull some up. Yeah. I feel like we've done this before. But I just always remember. Oh, no. That's still Lady Gaga 5'2". I actually really, really just like that one. It's on Netflix.

And it's like leading up to her performance at the Super Bowl, which was just like, you know, a huge mental, physical, emotional journey for her. Totally. So here are some that I know that you watched. Miss Americana. Of course. Loved it so much. Sorry, I cannot believe I that I know that you watched. Miss Americana. Of course. Loved it so much. Sorry, I cannot believe

I just forgot it. I apologize to the Swifties. Loved it so much because it was a documentary with a purpose. Yes. Amy, did you watch that one? No, I started it on a plane once.

I couldn't get into it. I watched it. It was really sad. Katy Perry. Remember when she had a documentary? And she was getting divorced. Okay, that is part of me, right? Yes.

It is such a good documentary. And you know what? It aired in theaters. Yes, it did. I saw it in theaters. One Direction. Of course. I've actually watched it recently.

So cute. Gaga, Five Foot Two. Unbelievable. Justin Bieber, Never Say Never. Did you watch that one? No, but that was also a half concert. Yeah. So was actually the One Direction and the Katy Perry were half concert, half documentary. Yes. I'm trying. There's, oh, Joan Rivers' piece of work. Yeah. So was actually the One Direction and the Katy Perry were half concert, half

documentary. Yes. I'm trying. There's, oh, Joan Rivers piece of work. Oh, iconic. The best piece of work ever. I actually own it on YouTube. I don't know where else you can watch it, but I highly recommend you buying it because I feel like it's going to be gone soon. It is so delicious. If you ever want to understand like why we have such an appreciation for jones comedy her work ethic her legacy that's your homework this weekend watch joe nervous piece of work you will laugh and you will cry and it also chronicles around the same time where she's on celebrity apprentice and she spoiler alert wins and it's just such there's so much happening it's so good yeah also some other ones that we haven't watched, but that look really good.

Whitney. Talk to me about Whitney Houston. Hold on. There's so many. I mean, Michael Jackson. This is it was a really big one. I watched a different Michael Jackson documentary that I actually found more interesting. Yes.

Me as well. We watched the Paris Hilton documentary. Oh, loved that yes you know who just put out a documentary too and I haven't heard anything was Ariana Grande her sweetener tour but then oh on Netflix right yeah which I haven't heard anything about but then remember we watched Dangerous Woman it was like the YouTube one yeah yeah that one was pretty good oh also Seasons Justin Bieber was good YouTube does really good YouTube does Demi does Paris they do good documentaries I never watched Seasons but I heard it was really good it was I watched the

episodes about the wedding because they were like so stunning yeah I feel like there's so many more but that was just the list I saw yeah if you're a celebrity like keep releasing documentaries oh one that I actually really do not like or memoirs like they I think they both accomplish the same thing one that I really really really didn't like like that will like really piss off a Stanhood but I'm like feeling like starting drama today Shawn Mendes is wonder first of all like the home stuff I really didn't like we get it you're humble like what else is there like it was just like I love to hang out with my friends from high school like okay what else like we get it you're modest you're ground to earth like down to earth can you do something else now um and then the concert I actually realized uh I don't know any Shawn Mendes songs.

Like, I know, like, the five that are on the radio. But, like, I don't know any from his album. Like, I know, okay, you know, the early ones. Stitches. Okay. The big party one. Like. Something Big.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that is, like, a song he doesn't stand by. But that's, like, his first song after mine. And I thought that was an amazing song. Okay. Something big, I feel it happening. Yeah. Okay. So, In the Blood. No. In My Blood. Yeah. like his first song after mine and i thought that was an amazing song okay something big i feel it happening okay so in the blood no in my blood yeah stitches um it's something big that doesn't count okay um oh i know i can't wait one song that's not about you yeah if i can't have you

lost in japan uh wonder such a fucking good Wonder, such a good fucking song. Hold on. Let me just go to my Spotify saved songs. So it was like a 45 minute concert. And I'm like, what are these songs? I've never heard them before. Yeah. But he is so handsome. Like that.

Oh, he has a song on the Descendants soundtrack. I was just about to say, what are we calling? We're not calling those shirts. White tank tops that boys wear. We're not. I can't believe, by the way, forever that they were called those. Yeah. What are they called?

White tank top, I guess. Yeah. A Hanes. A Hanes. A Hanes. Yeah, that's lined. Yeah. Oh, my God.

You know what? I just realized, like, for most of my life, they've been regarded as. You can just. I'm not saying it. You can say it so people know what you're talking about w-i-f-e-b-e-a yeah okay here's it um er what are we calling them yeah here someone else made up that name is there a more appropriate term i can use in place of the w word here in the u.s um here are some tank top sing. But that's an Australian term.

A sleeveless shirt. Or an undershirt. Undershirt. Yeah. But undershirts can also be. T-shirts. Like with sleeves. A sleeveless undershirt.

So it's a tank top undershirt. Yeah. A sleeveless undershirt. We just need to come up with a word. So that we know what we're referring to. Maybe we should come up with it. Okay. Tankini.

Like a rib top. Yeah. It's ribbed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever.

He was wearing it the whole time. And it was so hot. And that was a silver lining. But I actually really did not like the documentary. Yeah, it's ribbed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever, he was wearing it the whole time and it was so hot and that was a silver lining. But I actually really did not like the documentary. That was the tangent. That was the moral of the story. Yes. Okay.

Are you going to watch Demi's? Yeah, probably. Like, if I get bored enough. Yeah, same. Even though I'm not, like, a huge Demi Lovato fan. Like, I always support her and her music is, like, not my... It's fine.

But I, like, I think she's a great role model. Yeah, I watched the last one I was really moved by it me too and um she was just like open as fuck on I know just like my content like I would like to watch it I just know that I'm not going to yeah and you know I was actually thinking about the other day did you ever watch Ben Platt's Netflix special I feel like you didn't no I didn't isn't that crazy because like we're such big fans I was like so excited about it but I honestly feel like emotionally I can't handle it. It's actually really emotional.

I just like I can't go there. Did you see that video that went viral on TikTok of the couple at their wedding, a gay couple dancing to Ben Platt's Share Your Dress? They made up like a choreographed dance. No, that's so cute. But I'm not. I don't see TikToks. Ben Platt put it on his Instagram.

That's why I thought maybe you would see it. Send it to me next time. It's really cute, but I don't see TikToks. Ben Platt put it on his Instagram. That's why I thought maybe you would see it. Send it to me next time. It's really cute. Cute. Okay, let's dive into our TV recap segment where we are recapping one movie every week for Toast Movie of the Week in honor of Black History Month. And this month, I mean this week, we chose Cinderella, Rodgers and Hammerstein's Cinderella starring Brandi and Whitney Houston to celebrate, you know, more black representation in Disney

movies because it makes a really big impact on young children. Yes. And I was really excited to watch it. And I think it's important for everyone to remember like you have to set your expectations because it's made for TV yeah and it was made early 2000s yeah like probably 20 years ago so the special effects like with that you know pumpkin rolling down the hill like making it like it was really you know it reminded me of paint on Windows 98, like just really old school. But there was so much about the movie to love. And for me, like that was Whitney Houston.

Hundred percent. And my biggest critique of the movie is like we didn't get enough Whitney Houston. Not enough Whitney. And I feel like this is, I guess, the issue just with Cinderella. The story is like Fairy Godmother is only in one scene. So she could they really maxed out how she even followed her in her in the carriage yeah like she was like let me in like she she wanted in the movie as much as she could get she showed up at the end of the night yep to have a little girl chat powwow and then she sang the last song at the end so they did as much with

Whitney as they possibly could have but it is like a fatal flaw of the movie that she's not in more scenes because I could have watched that impossible scene all night long. I was literally screaming at the top of my lungs. Impossible. Impossible. Impossible. Impossible. Like I was just living for it.

And I just could have watched that whole, you know, pumpkin dress singing impossible. I could have watched that forever. Forever. And I was also really shocked at how star-studded the movie was. Queen and King, Whoopi Goldberg and Victor Garber. Iconic couple. On point. On point.

Jason Alexander. I thought was a miscast. You know, he was, I think he was trying to bring, like, LeFou energy. Like, you know, I'm so clumsy. Like, everyone's always stepping on me. And it just was not translating for me and I feel like he suffers you know from a Hollywood curse when you're too good at your job you'll always be that thing that made you famous you'll always be that

character but then he's in Shallow How and he's his Shallow How character is so similar to George Costanza like did you see her toe like it's like the same stupid humor yeah that's why it was like the only role in my opinion that he was ever really good at after Seinfeld okay because he's so Costanza so I'm like why is George Costanza in France or wherever this movie takes place you know yeah yeah I just made no sense I just felt like he didn't I don't know it didn't work for me there's some like it was very LeFou But I also could have seen it Being like Stanley Tucci Like Oh yeah So

That was a miss for me I feel that Bernadette Peters was great And I didn't know Either of the characters Who played the stepsisters But they were great They were hysterical

They were hysterical And Brandy of course Was just a star Like so beautiful Not wearing an ounce of makeup Like couldn't have looked More stunning And also I didn't know

Who the prince was And I guess he never got famous he never got famous after i think this was like his first film it's introducing introducing yeah yeah but i guess it wasn't no but i thought he did a really good job i think he was okay yeah he was cute he was very made for tv you know i didn't think whitney or brandy or like bernadette peters were giving me made for tv energy no but then it was like there were commercial breaks in the middle yeah you know i was wondering why it kept going to black but you told me afterwards that it was made for TV. Yeah which also explains like the uh the editing. The editing and also just like the set. Yeah the set was a little wonky. Right because it was like a TV set it wasn't like a major blockbuster film. Budget. Right. Yeah I guess I just remembered you know watching it as a

kid and you know when you're a kid and this was like 20 years ago, you have lower expectations, obviously, and everything is so fantastical. But now it's like I've seen Beauty and the Beast live action. Like this budget, this special effects was like so wonky. But it didn't take away from the specialness of watching, you know, Brandy and Whitney Houston on screen together. But the one thing I will say, and maybe not about this movie, but about the Cinderella story in general,

is that I understand it's meant for kids. But as as an adult like i could only play dumb for so long there were so many things that weren't adding up okay so the prince met brandy in town right and then she showed up in a dress and with her hair up and he didn't recognize her okay maybe you know he only met her once whatever her own stepsisters and stepmother didn't know her like that was so stupid and i could only and i actually don't think kids are even that dumb like i think the kids would be like mommy well they know her they live with her like you know what i mean yeah it's so stupid yeah and there was just like so much like so many okay another thing like so many flaws in the storyline so he goes to try on the glass slipper with everyone and he's at the house bernadette peters and her two girls try it on and then he goes is there someone else in the storyline so he goes to try on the glass slipper with everyone and he's at the house bernadette peters and her two girls try it on and then he goes is there someone else in the house

how the fuck would he know that yeah he's like a dog sniffing how does he know so there was just like so much like convenience for the storyline yeah and of course like i think everyone harps on the fact that like what size could she have been like i'm a size six and a half i could fit into seven i could fit into a six but i think just you know playing devil's advocate the whole dress and ensemble was made like the magic so like the magic made it like so bespoke like literally fit to a tee and so i think that like no one else has her exact foot yeah it was as if it was like an imprint yeah it was also as if the prince was like blind because yes okay you could go make everyone try on the shoe but you vaguely remember what she looks like so if you're like literally making a redhead try on shoes like it's obviously

not her yeah yeah like it obviously wasn't Bernadette Peters she had red curly hair and also Bernadette Peters was with Jason Alexander the whole night. Right, it was like the lack of logic was actually really bothering me. But I understand that it's for children. Yeah, but like I think that it's like rude to children to like let them. It's insulting to their intelligence. I couldn't agree more. Yeah.

But the soundtrack was really what I showed up for and I really forgot like that I knew so many songs. Yeah. The prince is giving a ball. The prince is giving a ball. The prince is giving a ball. Stunning is giving a ball. The prince is giving a ball. Stunning. Also, in my own little corner, in my own little chair,

I can be whatever I want to be. All in all, it was like a fun little movie. It was. It was a little stupid, but it was fun. And honestly. But that's on Cinderella. Like, that's on Rogers.erella like that's on rogers storyline itself yeah i agree like i don't know if it's a story and it's like a it's a disney story that

keeps getting retold and i feel like it's actually really flawed in its in its plot and maybe it's something we we rework right and also i think what i was realizing last night like the story is really only five scenes and each of those scenes was being like really stretched out it's like there's you know the home scene the ball the shoe trying on and like that's it yeah but the wedding was stunning stunning and the dress that yes Whitney made both dresses like loved it was really like epic to see Whitney Houston on tv and I think it just made me realize like I need to watch The Bodyguard because that's like the movie that, you know, was like her big acting debut. Yeah.

And she's just like so stunning and like with her dramatic, you know, sleeves and her hands like Cinderella. No, she used to. You've had the magic all along. Everything of the sort. Everything. And she looked sickening in that dress. Sickening.

And I could just watch that scene like a million times of like the carriage ride. Like that song is so good yeah impossible things are happening every day so all in all it was a good fun cute choice I think next week I would like to settle on something like a little more um full if you know what I mean yeah but again if you have recommendations yes please let us know i've so enjoyed this and that's our show and that's our week that's our week and now we have our interview with norma kamali so enjoy that get some inspiration heading into the weekend perfect weekend energy like to soak yourself up fill up your cup and then your cup shall runneth over over the weekend hundred percent so enjoy thank you norma kamali for being here with us it was really really cool

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in the Texas area, stay safe. And we're thinking of you. Yes are have a great weekend you guys bye welcome back to the morning toast we are so excited to have fashion designer icon and now author norma kamali on the show welcome norma thank you for being here it's my pleasure i love being here we are such big fans yeah jackie's hoping you're to notice that she's wearing one of your clothes. I know this. Okay. I love it so much. I have the matching pants too, but you know, my quarantine 15, it just, we're not there yet. It couldn't work today. But the color is great with your hair. Thank you so much. Your clothing is everything of the sort. That's a phrase that we love here at the Morning Toast. And so we are so excited to be talking to you and so excited that you have written a book called I Am Invincible. Yes, I have. And I'm happy to say with my 75 years of experience, I decided to put a handbook together. And I wish I had a handbook when I was going through my 20s,

30s, 40s, 50s, 60s. And so basically it's really a handbook on how to get through the decades, what to expect. Obviously 30 is very significant, 20 is significant, 40, you reach a plateau and you monetize where you're at and then 50 is reinvention and it and and it's good to have a sense of what that means so not that you're going to avoid the experience because the experience is the transition that takes you to the next place. But it helps you keep in mind that you're not the only one that's going through that and that it is part of the evolution of a woman to have those experiences.

Now, I'm sure at many points in your career, you've had the opportunity to write a book if you wanted to because you've been so successful for so long. So why now and why this particular book? I think now because, like I said, purpose is really important. But having a sense of what your purpose is in this lifetime helps you make decisions that are the right decisions for you. Instead of meandering along and letting life happen, you'll decide on important things in your life based on how you see your purpose for this lifetime. So I recognized early on that my purpose was to serve women and to share my experiences. So this, especially at this point where I have so much to share, and I also talk about aging with power. When I turned 20, my mother said, happy birthday. It's all downhill from here. And I started crying. And I said, I don't want to be as old as you are. And I'm like, no. But we all go through that. We

all recognize that we're going to age when we're not teenagers anymore. We're going to start aging. And then everybody thinks of it in such a horrible way and fashion and the beauty media keep telling us about anti-aging, anti-wrinkle, anti-everything that has to do with something that I quite frankly am very comfortable with saying I'm 75 and I am 75 and I've written a book I have furniture line coming out my scent is coming out in September I have like a lot of things I'm working on and I'm very inspired I wouldn't want to be 20 again I wouldn't want to be 30 40 50 ever again I did that. And so I'm experiencing this part of my life. And if you think about the three pillars of a healthy lifestyle, which is sleep, diet, and exercise, those are the tools that help you get through each of the decades and feel good about your age, feel good about your body,

feel good about wanting to make love because you feel good in your body. Those are things you should think about every decade. But if you think about it at 75, you can, you can enjoy all kinds of things in life. So you worked on this book for quite a bit. And now that it's out, it's been out for like two weeks. What is the reception been like? Because I'm sure it's pretty personal. And then once you put it out there, having people read it, accept it, reject it. What is the feedback been and how has that been for you?

Well, as you know, because you have a book and congrats. That's as you know, it's like giving birth in a way you know you work on it you you really want it to be quality and you want to feel good about it you want there to be an experience that people have with it and it's wonderful when you actually see that what you work so hard on actually is getting that reception. And because the book is really written for a 20-year-old, because that's when you get the most out of it. When you start and you think about all these things at 20, you get that much more out of the book and the experience. And then if when you're 30, you read it again, when you're 40, you read it again, because as you get to that age,

you then understand, oh, I see what's happening. I see now what I read when I was 20. Now it's real. Now it's a real thing that's happening. So I see the book having, you know, just hanging around your house and being there at times where you just pull it and say, what the hell's going on? Like, what the fuck? I'm, I'm feeling, you know, I'm feeling so shitty. Like life is passing me by. Why is that? What's going on? And, and then you get grounded just by Okay, I see. Yeah, I still feel like life is passing me by. However, I understand that I need to reconcile some stuff at this point in my life. So I think the book and and I'm seeing as I talk to 20-year-olds and 30-year-olds in different age groups, I have a different conversation with each age group. And I'm so happy because I think if you can take away one nugget of information that can help you in making decisions about your life, I'm thrilled.

I will feel like I did my job with this. Definitely. We're so excited to read the book. Most of our audience are young millennial women. So what advice would you have for them and for us, women who are starting out? Finding our purposes. Yeah. What would you say to us

so so what age are you guys i'm 28 i'm 26 okay so first of all the 20s are about going out and being on the edge of a cliff all the time like check you gotta to talk to her you got to talk to her norma she needs good to go to a cliff no but she is on a cliff it's a different cliff than you're on that's true thank you norma but but this is when you you know you get objectified by some guy that you thought was you know the perfect guy for you or girl or whoever partner for you um it's when you really make some embarrassing horrific mistakes it's when check it no but you're supposed to this is but you're supposed to. This is when you're supposed to. And you just have to stay on the cliff, not go off the cliff. So that's good.

But if you go off the cliff and get up again, that's even better. You learn about yourself in your 20s. You learn about your relationship with other people, with friends, with dates, with relationships, with your body, with your whole sense of self. And that is critical. And it's an important experience. So having a lot of new experiences in your 20s is really important. And unfortunately with COVID, when you're in lockdown, it is the worst time. And I feel, I really feel like you have to make up for this, that you can't. Yes, life just passed you by for a year. And it sucks. And I feel that you have to really live life double time when this is over.

And I mean that from the bottom of my heart. There is so much you have to experience before you hit 30 and don't miss out. So I think if you and your listeners really keep that in mind, that you need to interact with each other a lot, do less technology and more touching and interacting physically with each other. And I'm talking about hugging and girlfriends hanging all over each other and brushing each other's hair and touching boys that you don't even love, but you just, just having, no, I'm very serious, but really having that in the seventies, we did that. We just touched each other a lot. We were hugging and kissing each other a lot.

We didn't have technology. It didn't interfere with that. And having, when you feel through your body, through your hand, when you touch a guy's face that you may not be in love with, but you just feel empathy or sympathetic, you feel something for him and he feels your hand on his face or even a girlfriend or but that is so dynamic you feel it it affects how you feel about things and about this human being and he or she feels some experience from that too don't give that up you force that to happen because you're all missing out on that and you're you're starting relationships on technology ending them on technology and to really appreciate sex, you need more simple touching. And you want to really learn more and more about appreciating sex and your body and what your body feels,

and what somebody else feels. And sometimes just having those interactions where it's not love, it's not I got to marry this person, but just sometimes a simple massage is as good as an orgasm if it's the right experience. So I recommend, just saying, for 20 to 30, when this is over, I don't want to be responsible for orgies and all kinds of happening but but I do really I do ask you to experiment with having picnics in the park or like getting some wine and or grass or whatever it is you want to do and just like just hang out with each other and lie down and touch and sing and just be with each other without the technology don't get a basket and say okay this is just about us touching

and talking telling our most intimate secrets really digging deep into the emotion and the physical. And I think you need to do it big time, especially after COVID. And I think once you start having those experiences, they're very addictive and you won't want to give them up. You really want to do more of it. Definitely. I think people are maxed out on technology this year. Yeah. And looking forward to experiencing new sensations once we can. Once we can.

So I think that's really good advice. I think that's wonderful advice. I feel like very inspired to double down on living like once we can. Let's go to Vegas. I was ready to just like wash,

just like call this year a wash. Right. But no, we have to make up for this year. I think that's great advice to give all of our listeners. Before we let you go, we wanted to get up for this year. I think that's great advice to give all of our listeners. Before we let you go, we wanted to get your temperature on, you know, the happenings in the fashion world.

I feel like COVID has definitely been, put everyone on pause in their fashionable, you know, attire. I'm just really, you know, walking the earth in leggings and sweatpants and our own merchandise, shopmorningtoast.com. So what are you seeing now like this lounge where does it like I feel like a lot of people don't like it are you into the lounge wear you

know the comfortable elegance well you know to me everything I do has to be comfortable if I make an evening gown you could you should be able to go swimming in it I like for me it has to I'm I I'm a big very physical active person so nothing gets dry cleaned I don't believe in you know it's like a pet that you keep feeding why should you have a piece of clothing that you have to keep dry cleaning like that jacket you have on you can wash wow yes so so for me it's it's always about feeling good in clothes that they should make you happy you should feel great in them you should walk a certain way in them because you feel that way but they also have to be super comfortable so all of my clothes no matter how extreme they are they're not they're not meant to be precious so the the comfort part of it is fine but i think there's a good question about what's happening with fashion and the fashion industry so all of us have an imprint in our brain that's never going to go away it's the

covet imprint we will remember this you will be 95 and say remember when and it will be a real memory and it will impact a lot of your decisions about a lot of things. And one of the things we've all experienced is either you're not wearing shoes, you're wearing slides, you're wearing sneakers. I visit my shoes, I love my shoes, I've collected shoes since the 60s, and I take care of them and I wear them. And now I look at them and I say,

girls, you're all gorgeous. I think you're fabulous. But I'm not that quick to put you on my feet, because I am, my feet are in such good shape now, because they haven't been squished in pointy shoes. They're, they're really good. I mean, I could use a good pedicure, but they're in good shape. They're basically in good shape. And I feel so comfortable that I think shoes will be very different. And the kinds of shoes we wear at different times are going to be very different. And I think there's an evolution there. The other evolution I feel is that in the 70s, New York City was bankrupt. It was a dangerous city.

People were leaving it by the droves. There weren't enough people who had money to pay taxes because they all left. The services in the city fell apart. There were strikes. There was violence. There was danger. And it sounds a little bit like something we might know right now. A little bit.

Yeah. Yeah. And so as a result, the city became incredibly affordable for young creative types who said, you know what, we'll be fine. We'll deal with the violence. We'll deal with all of this. culture that started and New York City in the 70s probably was one of the most creative times for the country and affected the world and that's when the fashion industry the American fashion industry really began where Halston, Calvin, Ralph everybody started labels and I had I was in a big push in the beginning of my career, too. And the creativity was extraordinary. And it was a time where nobody wanted to look anything like anybody else. The last thing in the world you would want is to have the same bracelet, the same dress, the same shoes, anything. But you would find these one-of-a-kind special pieces and you'd mix it up in your wardrobe.

You would look, you would do everything to create sort of this piece of art that you were every time you dressed. And the more different you look from everyone, the more you were expressing yourself like a piece of art. So millennials don't really think that way. Millennials have a different mindset about fashion completely. So it's not going to be an easy that's not a natural thing for you to do but what i do think you guys will be doing is you will be thinking more about sustainability and the quality of what you're buying and the longevity of it in your wardrobe, especially as you get towards 30. And then I want to say one thing about 30. 30 is huge. 30 is one of the biggest transitions of all the decades. It's a hard one. It's a little bit of a slap in the face and an awakening and you will shed some tears on your pillow oh no

that's me soon yep and that's okay that's okay because everybody is going through that but timeline. So I'm I, I found my soulmate at 65. And in 1970, when I was 25, an astrologer told me that I would meet my soulmate when I was 65. And I wanted to have her killed. I said to I would like, I'm sorry, you cannot be right and unfortunately she was right i met guys i dated them but you know as i look back they weren't exactly you know people that you would want to spend your life with right so everybody has a different timeline i'm not saying your timeline is 65, but don't let this chronological, mystical timeline that was developed centuries, I mean, millennials ago, be the timeline for you. It is not your milestone. It's somebody else's milestone. It's somebody else's milestone. So you have to be sure that you attract the man or the woman or the person you deserve. And nothing less than that. And so you have to work on yourself

to make sure that you love yourself and you have self respectrespect so you draw that to you and you have to be sure that it is that person and you can have a good time in the process it doesn't mean you can't meet people and do things but don't don't be frightened by 31 when you all of a sudden are at you're in the age group where you're aged out of the dating market because you're not. That's, you know, maybe on certain dating apps you are, but you're not. And so, but getting through the way you get through 30 will define how you get through all of these transitions for the rest of your life. I think that's really good advice, honestly.

And I think that's something a lot of people needed to hear, myself included. So thank you so much. And really, thank you for being here. Congratulations on your book. Everyone go pick it up anywhere you get books. It's called I Am Invincible. Thank you for being here. It was honestly a huge honor to speak to you.

And thank you guys for listening. And we will see you tomorrow. Bye. Bye.