The Toast - S4 Ep42: The Firm: Tuesday, March 9th, 2021

Episode Date: March 9, 2021

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Tuesday. We are back, sort of. Claude is still on vacation, but she's back with us. Hey, Claude, how you doing? Oh my God. I feel like I have to take the biggest duty because I have so much to say. And once I make this duty, I will feel so relieved because so much has happened in the last week in the world, in the world personally. And I just really feel like I'm so excited to take this massive dump. Wow. That's so beautiful. Thank you for sharing your duty with us. Yeah. I really think of the morning toast as like my daily duty and I don't feel good until I take it. I can't, I can't accept that. It's gotta be something else. It's a good metaphor actually.

um it's gotta be something else it's a good metaphor actually please please we'll work up something else um so yes i am coming i'm excited for your release i'm coming to you still on vacation we were supposed to be back at you know in new york today um and while we're not technically in new york we're still churning out episodes and here's the reason why. I was planning on coming home yesterday and of course that would mean we're back on Tuesday and I really had Norma Kamali in my head, you know? I mean, I don't know when the next time I'm gonna get out to the Virgin Islands is

and I just did not wanna go home and I'm thinking to myself like, well, what the hell do I have to go back for except the toast, which we've learned this year, like, we can literally do from anywhere. So I was with Brian because we were on this trip for his birthday weekend. And he obviously, like, had amazing things planned for himself because it's his job to travel and try out new places. And I was just like, I've got to tag along. And with this new no change fees thing, it is such a delight to travel. And I know what like

on a million of my trips, and I'm sure people can relate, like you always think like, should I stay a few more days? And it's like, you can get the hotel room, but then you call the airline and it's like $250 change fee plus the price in the difference in price between your first and last flight. And it was so easy to change my flight. Not only did they not charge me a change fee, I got a credit back because my new flight was cheaper. they sent me $500 in a credit I'm like what the fuck it's such a delight and I if you're going on a trip soon and thinking about extending like this is your message like Norma Kamali was my sign and this is your sign to just do it yeah also it's like it takes so much to get out of the house these days to get out of the country and like you're there you were and I think once you were there you realized like you need to stay

there so I agree this year has taught us so much including the fact that we can do the show from anywhere and I look forward to doing the show with you from a tropical locale I just feel like the energy will be great the vibes are clearly good on your end. And I think that that will transmit good vibes towards me as well. And the vibes are definitely good on your end because like I saw that sexy photo of you in a hot tub. Like I know that you are feeling good. So sexy. You know, I had.

That was sexy. Like seriously sexy. I was like, damn. Damn. I had a really great weekend also. Zach and I went and Bruno so important of course the vibe was achieved I was talking about the vibe on our last episode of what I had in mind which was just like a really farm chum and quaint weekend where dogs were allowed and I found

exactly that at the Mayflower Inn which yes you might have heard of and seen on Real Housewives of New York um that was my that's how I even knew about the hotel I called them up asked if they allowed dogs they said yes and not only do they allow dogs like they roll out the red carpet like they encourage they encourage there were so many things in our room that were for Bruno they gave him a bed they had wee wee pads they had treats they had bowls like they were just so they were Bruno files I would say wow that's an honor yeah no so it was a great weekend it was also just like so stunning we loved our room I read a lot we went No, so it was a great weekend. It was also just like, so stunning. We loved our room. I read a lot. We went to the spa. It was just exactly what I had in mind. And I'm glad that I took advantage of my vacation days while you were gone. Otherwise,

I would have come on the show today like a monster. Yeah. Also, by the way, thanks to Jackie's recommendations. I too have been reading quite a bit. I finished Every Last Secret when I was in St. Thomas. I loved it like so much. I thought it was a great story with a great message. Like when we were recapping it afterwards, we're like, what's the moral of the story here? Like there was really stuff to think about afterwards. And then I started What Alice Forgot and it literally was not English. Like I did not understand what was going on. Like I only read the first chapter, but she was like, is cream cheese a hard cheese? Like she was literally, I think they were trying, I don't know what the book was about

because I never got to it, but I think they were trying to say like she was doing some sort of hypnosis because she has some memory problems. Is that what I'm guessing? Yeah. It just, it was not English. Like I could not understand it.

So then I took another one of your recommendations, The Mother-in-Law, and I am loving it so far. So good. Great. I'm so glad to hear it. I read two books this weekend also. I've read The Girl on the Train, which is also like a major motion picture, which I never saw. The book was really good.

Super twisty. I think you would like it, Claude, if you're looking for your next book. And then I read The Da Vinci Code. Oh my God. I saw that on your stories and I was crying I don't know why but like because it's like a really popular book it's literally like the number one book in the world like after the bible probably and I don't know it's just like definitely a good book so I was like I should read this book and I loved it it I mean there's nothing not to like that's not like a hot take. And it was super interesting and smart.

But I also felt like I was watching an action movie as I was reading it. So it felt very blockbuster-y. But it was very smart. And I really enjoyed it. So I might go watch those movies after this. But instead, last night, I just watched the trailers for both of those movies. And I felt like I saw them. Girl on a Train. That's not Gone Girl, right I saw them girl on a train that's not gone

girl right because she's like on the train the whole time no and it's not um girl with dragon tattoo right that's what I was also thinking so there's another book about a girl but you know in gone girl Emily Blunt is like always on the train um okay so that's girl on the train gone girl is Rosamund Pike. Oh, yes. Wait. No, wait. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Emily Blunt is also in Gone Girl, right? No.

She's the girl on the train. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So very confusing. Yeah. Sort of. They're both girls. It's a Chris Pine, Chris Evans type of situation. It's also confusing with Girl with No Job.

So confusing. Because that is also like a bestseller. They're making it into a movie, I heard. Yeah. And like thrilling with a twist at the end. Thrilling and chilling. Totally. Totally.

So I'm just excited to be back. There's so much to break down. I mean, obviously, Harry and Meghan, like, literally within a matter of minutes, just, like, destroyed a hundred-year-old monarchy. Like, they took that shit down. Not 100-year-old. Hundreds-year-old. Yeah. You knew what I meant. That is the reason for this season. That's the reason for this episode. We have so much to talk about, and that is the bulk of it I mean I've been processing my own thoughts and I look forward to like processing them further with you and hearing

your opinions on some of the stuff because it was just like I feel like this it was the sort of special that like we'll be telling our kids we watched well so what I was thinking is like in the beginning of the interview when they were were referring to Diana's interview um and how it was like you know it's a really well-known famous interview. In like 10 years, that's how people are going to talk about this Oprah interview. Like it was, we were witnessing history. Yeah.

Yeah, we really were. I didn't get a chance to watch it live because I had to finish the Da Vinci Code and I just didn't want to get like my wires crossed. So I watched it on Monday morning and I wish I had watched it live so I could have like, you know, kept up with the convos, but still like I also needed to just like focus. Yeah.

Well, I didn't watch it on Sunday night cause I was like drinking myself into oblivion. But on Monday morning I downloaded like CBS all access, which I have, like I have access to it, but we're in the British Virgin islands now and the licensing, it was kind of shady. I felt like a slight towards britain because like britain didn't get it until last night so i had to like literally janky i had to do this thing on my phone like that was definitely illegal like change your location download this app like your vpn or something vpn yes yeah and i ultimately got it but it was not without lots of strife but i would have done anything to watch it. Like I was dying to just, and I was seeing so many people talk about it.

It's everywhere. Like you cannot open a magazine, Twitter. It's everywhere. And so I was like, I felt so left out. It was killing me. Yeah. No, you, it's everywhere. And there's so many different aspects of it.

So many bombshells. We're going to get into all of the bombshells, all of our thoughts on each one, and ultimately where we land on our thoughts. Yeah, I think, like, I don't really know where I land. We have to, like, talk through it. But at the end of the day, you know, let's just get into it. Let's get into the Fast Five stories, mostly Megan and Harry's interview that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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No, she definitely has changed my post-COVID outlook. I just like have nowhere to apply her methods yet. But when I do, I will. The opportunity will come. Yes. Okay, let's get into Megan and Harry, Oprah, CBS, March 7th, Sunday night. The biggest bombshells for Megan and Harry's Oprah interview per People magazine. Are you ready?

We're going to go. Let's go. Yeah, like what people consider the biggest bombshells, like I agree with, but there were things that I was shocked to not see in the tabloids like when I was reading I'm like how has this not been written up everywhere yes okay so the first one is that Kate made Megan cry when the tabloids had reported a few years ago that Megan made Kate cry right before the wedding the thing is about these like tabloid stories and I remember that story I never really and maybe it's just me I never like digested them as truth like the the

um the British press and tabloids are notoriously like sheisty um and so I never I find it interesting that that particular story bothered Megan so much because I never believed it to be true like there's so many fake stories that come out about the royal family and I was surprised that she had heard about that one because she said she doesn't read anything. And it must have been frustrating when it was like literally the exact opposite thing that happened that was being reported. Like that's frustrating.

Yeah, that is frustrating. But I wonder, I mean, there's clearly a difference between like the UK press and the US press because I feel like in the US, like we regard the tabloids as like absolute garbage. Like the headlines that they were showing on the on the special like to me they're nothing more than like national inquirer headlines I think the most legitimate you know publication was the daily mail which is still a celebrity tabloid

you know but I think like that that's not like indicative of the press no you are 100% right like the way we regard tabloids in America is so different. Like when Megan spilled the most major tea that I literally did not see written up everywhere, that they have like holiday parties and cocktail parties at the palace for the tabloids. Like the tabloids are an integral part of something. Like they're not what they are in America. But like when she says tabloids, like is she talking about the equivalent of Star Magazine where it's like every week Brad and Jen are getting back together?

Yes, I believe. And people in Britain like regard these as truth whereas here everyone just walks past them in the supermarket and rolls their eyes? No, literally. And by the way, that's not the only difference. I feel like this is actually really highlighting like the differences in American and British cultures, like, because that is a huge difference for sure. But also like when I was talking about this on my stories, like I was getting two totally different perspectives and the people who were pro Megan and had a lot of compassion for her were American. And the people who watch the interview and their minds did not change and they hate Megan and they still think that she's like this manipulative

social climber. That is like for, and I want to generalize, but that was like the British perspective I was getting. Well, yeah, I can, to generalize but that was like the British perspective I was getting well yeah I can I can see how that would be the case also because I think in general like culturally Americans are you know more emotional and vocal and and um talk about everything where it's like you know we watch Ladies of London the Brits sweep it under the rug and by the way I'm sure our British listeners like we have no idea what we're talking about. I've literally never even been to London. It's the British stiff upper lip.

It's Lisa Vanderpump. It's everything that we've seen. Or for the most part, you know, it's Downton Abbey. It's like you don't talk about your feelings all the time like you do here in America. So I think she has a lot more sympathy from Americans who can relate to that versus Brits who are motivated by a sense of duty and, you know, sweet things under the rug. Yeah.

And I feel like my takeaway was like, at the end of the day, I really have a lot of compassion for Meghan and Harry. I think a lot of people have known for years like what Harry went through with his mom. And with Meghan, we're now learning of, of course, we always knew like being, you watch the crown, being a royal is not all it's cracked up to be. You're not like a princess in a castle with servants. I mean, you are, but that's not what it is. It's like actually a lot of torture. So we knew that, but I think peeling back a layer into like how she literally said she didn't want to be alive anymore, and then also dealing with another layer of like being the first mixed race person

in Windsor Castle, like that cannot cannot be easy and all the strife that came with that. I think I ended up at the end of the interview, I had a lot of questions, probably more questions than I had before, but I also had an enormous amount of respect and compassion for Megan because she only cried once and I literally would have been crying the whole time. She's an incredibly strong woman, but I did feel like i left with more questions and the frustrating thing is and what we learned from the crown is the the the palace never speaks like we will not hear from them like there are all these cameras set up outside the power no one is coming out to talk to them like they don't respond so it's actually like really ideal for megan and harry to get their

side of the story out knowing that no one is ever going to, you know, come out and argue with them, you know, tell their side of the story because the crown doesn't do that. Yeah, I agree. I do want to, yeah, before we get into all of the details and bombshells, I want to just say how the interview like made me feel and where I sort of landed at the end of it, because by the end, after hearing, you know, what they went through and, and the progression of the last five years for them I would say um I'm really happy for them like I'm really glad that they left and I think that that's what's best for them I you know that situation it's it is a major privilege and a major responsibility as we always say and it's not for everyone and so I think that they

a hundred percent did what was best for themselves and their family and I and I'm glad that they are living a different life now and one that is better for everyone's mental health I agree that like Megan and Harry are like the most in love couple of all time because I don't know how you can go through all of that with someone and and not have it really affect your relationship but they seem like just so great together truly they both seem so intent on doing what's best for the other person which is like exactly what you want in a marriage and when I was watching I was thinking I'm like these two can never get divorced like they're stuck together forever yeah no I agree and also when Megan was describing those months where she lived at

the cottage and she couldn't go anywhere and she was just sort of like trapped, it was really reminding me of the latest season of The Crown where Diana is living that way as well and just like driving herself mad because she can't do anything. But I think the biggest difference between Diana and Megan is that like Harry loves Megan, would do anything for her is ride or die for her whereas like Charles was Diana's enemy and also making her more upset and like feeling more trapped so I feel like it's not necessary like and you know they've taken these steps to make sure history does not repeat itself and I can see why at that time when she was just like living in the house you know feeling really depressed why it harked back to Diana. Cause it literally, that's the visual I was having was the crown, but I think that they have now it is different for the better. Yeah. Yeah. And also at the end of the day, like that, the Charles and Diana thing

was so fucked up because even if they were in love, Charles couldn't leave. He's the next heir. So with Harry, like, even though he was was and he said it he was trapped he had a little bit more freedom because he's six in line to the throne like he's really not as important as some other members like if kate wanted to leave william couldn't leave and even if william wanted to do that for kate william really is trapped like there was a very small percentage chance of harry getting out and he got out and it's because he is not realistically ever going to be king yeah I mean there is you know there is that king who did abdicate for Wallace Simpson but that was the biggest that was absolutely bonkers and I think I mean I don't know

William at all personally but I think the general understanding it's like not only does he want to be king he's going to be an amazing king yeah Yeah. Yeah. I agree. So another takeaway I had before we dive into the nitty gritty was, was Oprah, because I feel like Oprah did a really good job because they're talking about all these things that are second nature to them. The firm, I called HR and it's like, what does that mean? You know? And I felt like Oprah was like, kept asking certain questions. And I saw a lot of people being like oprah kept interrupting them and i appreciated the interruptions because they're talking about the firm like we know what that is do you not know that the family is called the firm

no but the firm is also like the senior palace staff not just the family no but it's like the crown is the firm didn't know that and when megan's like when they told us who who are these people like no i was asking nitty-gritty specifications because we don't know what it's like to live in nottingham cottage okay like i need to know the logistics right and i feel like they've tried to make this distinction between family members and the palace staff who are apparently just like so evil atrocious atrocious but I so I do think in some ways you know there were moments where the family was kind of thrown under the bus but in other ways they tried to make it not that way so when you and I spoke that was like what we

spoke most about because everyone knows we're sisters like family is like the biggest thing for us and even like if you literally like stabbed Ben I probably wouldn't do an interview like it's just who I am you know what I mean so I was really struggling with with with that part of it because I think in a lot of ways they did protect the family like they made it they blamed a lot of it on the institution like not the family but the senior palace staff and also the tabloids but there were certain moments um where i did feel like they really exposed the family but then at the same time i'm thinking it's like well harry and megan are family now and like that's who they have to protect them and archie and like that's just like kind of for me like the

moral dilemma i'm struggling with because you, you know, when, when Megan kind of explained like all the atrocities, especially the conversation about Archie's skin tone, I'm like, yes, queen, like fucking throw him under the bus. But then, you know, I'm so family oriented. I just really struggled with that, with that part of it. And that's the part I don't know how to reconcile myself because I love Megan and I'm, and I love that she was empowered to share that. And I think talking about how they they refused to get her help for her mental health when she was literally begging for help, I think that's so brave. And so there's just different parts of it I'm really struggling to digest.

Yeah, and I also think in differentiating between the institution and the family, and they put a lot of the blame on the institution, but that is the crown and that is what this entire family has dedicated their lives to the queen has been in service to the crown her for 70 years now and so I think by insulting that institution they're still they're insulting everything that these people wake up and do every single day and and putting it in but they also insulted Megan like they insulted Megan a hundred percent but like it's not just oh we're gonna insult the crown it's like and not only have these you know living royal members dedicated their lives to this service but it's like uh generations before

them their grandparents great-grandparents um I just finished watching Victoria like Victoria is Harry's great great great gran right you. Right. You know? Great gran. It goes back really far. And so I think I agree with you. I'm glad that they were able to say their piece. And also I think for, you know, all of us who like live for the tea, it's like it's so hot this week. Living. Living.

But it is the dissolution of a family. And it is sort of like airing out this dirty family laundry which is something that I don't respect no and that's what it is it's the dissolution of a family and at the end of the day like that's always really really sad like this is a tragic story and and I'm so mad and I'm mad at the crown that that it got to this place because I think Megan could have like ushered in an entire new like generation. She was a divorcee. She's mixed race. I think she literally could have been the best thing that ever happened to them. And instead they couldn't make it work. And that's what's so

disappointing because as much as I'm so happy for Meghan, I would have loved for her to have been like Duchess of the World and like keep doing all the tours and and being the face and what she said she's like we traveled around the Commonwealth it's 60% black like they like seeing an image of themselves reflected in the royal family is so powerful and so the fact that we only got that for a year and they couldn't make it work I think the potential for Meghan like her real impact and her impact is huge but if it had worked out, I think it would have been so beautiful. And we never got there. And like, that's disappointing. Yes, I agree. And I think they said that they wanted to make it work. And maybe there was a

way that they all could have, you know, in hindsight, things could have been done differently. But I think for the royal family, it's like everyone who is really married into the family, we see it on the crown. And even members of the family who aren't the heir to the throne, they struggle with this sense of purpose, sitting around all day not knowing what to do the people princess margaret princess margaret exactly even like the people who marry into the family like princess diana even prince philip in the beginning prince albert i was just watching yeah they really don't know what to do with themselves they're like you know part of this now institution they only have so much freedom it's very limiting and they struggle with it and

and that's and i think harry said my family just feels like that's our world. That's what we do. This is our, these, this is, this is how it is. And, and for them, they, they saw other options for themselves and said, this does not, this is not how it has to be for us. But I think that the rest of the family can't relate to that because they go through it too and this is just how it is yes but I think what they were trying to say is like yes their family goes through it everyone knows what it's like to be stuck in your cottage with nothing to do but the added element of like the racism that Megan received from the public from the tabloids was so like that's not that's not a normal thing to go through like and it's not normal to be

a queen and have nothing to do and I'm sympathetic to that and I think like that's not a normal thing to go through. Like, and it's not normal to be a queen and have nothing to do. And I'm sympathetic to that. And I think like, that's what I really learned from the crown was like being a royal, like low key sucks. And like, you have to deal with a lot of shit. And then dealing with that

on top of being the first mixed race person to ever be in the palace. Like that is so torturous, I imagine. And that was the perspective we got from Megan in the interview. and that's what I really appreciated like yeah because I think a lot of people look at it like oh you're whining you're a princess you don't like being

a princess and I probably would have said that a few years ago too before I started watching The Crown but like being a princess low key sucks and then on top of like dealing with the racism from the press like I'm surprised they didn't leave sooner yeah oh sorry then on top of Harry being Princess Diana's son so he obviously has this like dealing with the racism from the press, like I'm surprised they didn't leave sooner. Yeah. Oh, sorry.

Then on top of Harry being Princess Diana's son, so he obviously has this like real sensitivity to the media taking down certain people in the British royal family. Yes, I agree completely. Let's get into some more of the bombshells, shall we? Yes. Meghan says that she was silenced um and Jackie oh were you silent or finger silenced the latter yes it was and I I like need to know if it was rehearsed because it

was so perfect yeah it really was also Megan and Harry said that they were already married on their wedding day they said that um days before they had a civil ceremony in the backyard with the Archbishop of Canterbury um okay the three of them and that the vows that are from that moment are framed and hanging in their home in California that was really sweet and I totally understood that like the royal wedding is not for the bride and groom it's for the public um but now there are all these articles like certain church experts being like well it's not a real wedding if it's not in public and there's not two witnesses okay so maybe it wasn't like legally married but it was emotional like people are so like nitpicky with this stuff and I actually thought that was really cute yeah that is cute and makes a lot of sense because the day you know

you can get lost in in the whole day so but yes even at a regular wedding of there would need to be witnesses it needs to be in a public space. Like it's not an actual marriage. But it meant something to them, clearly. Yeah. And I think that even like a regular wedding, people feel like the day gets away from them. So imagine, what was it, like 65 billion people watched? Two billion. Same thing.

Yeah. Okay. Then the next revelation, which was perhaps the most shocking, and I think what most people are talking about, is that there were conversations about Archie's skin color amongst royal family members. After the interview aired, Oprah clarified on CBS this morning that Harry told her that it was not Queen Elizabeth nor Prince Philip who made that comment. prince philip who made that comment and when i heard that what i had already felt was was cemented was that like they kind of you know told their story in completion with the intention of protecting the queen and gran and grandpa and i was glad they made the clarification um but it

didn't even help because i know it was Charles like I know it was him in my bones yeah no I'm glad they made the clarification because um I think people probably would have assumed it was the queen or Prince Philip and I do feel like they went out of their they really tried to protect the queen as much as they could in this interview um even with saying you know they zoom and they're on great terms and and all's well um I agree that if we're trying to figure out who said it it feels like it was Charles and I mean everybody just like hates Charles right now because of the crowd it's so easy and um and because of this interview it seems like Harry has had the most contention in the last

few years with Charles. I think him and the Queen are in a good place, he says. I think him and William are like going through a rough time. But I think that they are brothers. I think they'll get back to it. I think they've been through so much together. I think they'll find their way. It's just, you know, it's a period of transition for the two of them.

But I think that Charles is emerging as the villain of this story. I mean, I watched The Crown. He's been the villain in my mind for the last two years. But also what people are saying on Twitter, there's like this huge conspiracy theory that Prince Charles is actually not Harry's father. And, you know, when you watch

The Crown, yeah, when you watch The Crown, Princess Diana, when she's going through a hard time, she's seeing Jamesames hewitt who actually really does look a lot like prince harry if i'm just putting it out there so a lot of people are like their relationship is broken because like it doesn't even matter and like that's why archie wasn't gonna get a title because he's not actually you know the future monarch's grandson i don't know if I believe any of that. I just think like they're two different people. Like because honestly when I think of Harry I think of Diana and Charles hated Diana. Therefore by the transitive property Charles probably hates Harry. Oh interesting. I don't think

that he hates. I don't I don't know because I feel like even in watching The Crown like I think Charles would understand what Harry is feeling because I feel like even in watching The Crown, like I think Charles would understand what Harry is feeling. Because I feel like Charles had so many feelings growing up too. You know, that was like part of his struggle. Yes. No, but then like, but that's not the case. Like my assumptions are wrong. That's not the case.

I feel like he has very little compassion for Harry. And it's just, I don't know. I mean, it's crazy. I mean, just another reason why we should skip over Tarles, but. The lists are just piling up. Piling up. Okay, next bombshell, they're having a girl, they announced. Oh, yes, and a lot of people are speculating the name is going to be Diana, but I said this on my story, and I just want to say it again here in case it turns out to be true I think they'll probably go with the name Spencer so cute I feel like it'll start with a di maybe not Diana I mean it might just be Diana or like something like super similar that's like you know I don't know do to do do to do Theodora died did I died did I

okay also one of the biggest bombshells is Megan says that she quote just didn't want to be alive Do-do-do? Do-do-do. Theodora. Die-to-die? Die-to-die. Okay, also one of the biggest bombshells is Megan says that she, quote, just didn't want to be alive anymore and couldn't get help. In her darkest days, Megan had thoughts of taking her own life, she told Oprah. I was ashamed to say it at the time and ashamed to have to admit it to Harry, but I knew that if I didn't say it, then I would do it. I just didn't want to be alive anymore. She said she, quote, thought it would have solved everything for everyone. Yeah, for me, that was like, along with the comment about skin color, was like the most atrocious offense from the palace.

Like her begging for help and just being straight up turned down. Like that's not something we do. Okay, I understand maybe like public perception. You don't want to send her somewhere. Bring someone in someone in bring someone in like it just shouldn't have been that hard and especially after diane and especially just like after everyone who's i actually think you know a mental health counselor who lives in the palace would be widely popular yeah and did in the crown didn't who went to therapy uh princess margaret i also had read that um william and kate do a lot of mental health um yes philanthropy and and they've spoken about

going to therapy and so it's not something that is not like permitted um yeah i just i don't know why those resources and others were not available to her. That's so upsetting. And that's a situation that you can't live in. You have to change your surroundings. And she made it clear. Like there were a lot of things that the palace offered, but not to her. So maybe there were others who, if they needed mental health professionals, they could access them.

But Megan couldn't. You know, a lot of people are given those etiquette classes. They learn to curtsy. They learn to what to do with your purse, how to cross your legs, how to use the fork. She said none of that existed, but it was not offered to me. And I think that was an interesting distinction. It's not that they just throw anyone in there. It's that Meghan was actually just not given any help. Yes. Agreed. Also, the pair's exit from the royal family was in the works for a while. They described how they wrote out this term sheet for Prince Charles and explained to everyone what they were doing, when they were doing it. And they did not blindside anyone with this.

Right. And I think what was also interesting was how Megxit became this larger-than-life thing. It was never really supposed to be that. They were always planning on stepping back, but not leaving forever. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess that makes sense and I just a few weeks ago we just reported that it was official that they were not coming back and we were like why is this news they told us they weren't coming back but in what watching it all back in hindsight it's like no they they just took a step back to not be senior working members there are a lot of members of the royal family who are not senior working members who are members who to do what they need to do when asked, but it's not their day-to-day. Right. And that's where I think the whole kind of thing gets fucked up. And that's where a lot

of people are like having arguments in comment section right now, is if you're not a senior working royal member, you are therefore not entitled to some of the privileges, which is security, right? Security paid for by the taxpayers. Yes. Right. So that's where I really sympathize for Megan. It's like an impossible situation to be in. It's like in order to have security for your family, you have to be a part of this thing that literally makes you not want to be alive anymore.

Like so, but if you don't do it, you're putting you and your your family danger because they don't have jobs they can't security is extremely expensive yeah they they would have to pay for it out of their own money i just want to say like harry does have a lot of money um how but but how i mean that he just he bought that house his his mom well now they have money and also um charles was, bankrolling a lot of this for them. He has money from, like, the Duchy of Cornwall. It's, like, his real estate properties. And they have, like, spending money. Oh, really?

I always felt like they didn't have bank accounts or credit cards. No, they have, like, money and properties and stuff. Like, I think Prince Harry is worth, like, $50 million just from, like, what, um, I don't know if it's $50 million just from like their assets right so those are the places where I felt like Oprah kind of um failed in a sense like I had so many leftover questions where they were like they were kind of contradicting themselves and like making little loopholes and I wish she just pressed a little bit more because at the end of the day even though it sucks and it's not right and the rules should change like Archie should have security if his mom wants to take a step back because she's tired from being written up in the press all the time but the the tradition

and the rule is that they don't get um security if they step back and Archie doesn't get a title if until his grandfather becomes monarch right yeah so this wasn't part of the people magazine article but it's also something a lot of people are confused about and talking about is that Archie um would not have been called prince and the and people um and that was like you know people are confused by that so I think, basically saying that all grandchildren of the monarch will be prince and princess, which is true of all of Queen Elizabeth's grandchildren. But Archie would be a great grandchild. So it wouldn't be until Charles became king that he's the monarch that his grandchildren become prince and princess.

But so then people are wondering well why are William's kids prince all those three kids are princes princesses etc. So why do they get it? Before George was born the queen made a stipulation that they shall all be his and her royal highness and is that because he's the next monarch because um because george was going to be a prince and so they had all the kids be prince so so it's like stipulations are being made why not archie for right why not for megan right and so apparently archie was offered like a duke a dumb title and and they declined it well because now i'm looking now i'm looking at okay so uh harry is the spare heir so was princess margaret and i said i went to google what

are princess margaret's kids titles a lady and an earl so archie should have been maybe it didn't have to be a prince but he should have gotten something i think they offered him something that's what i've read and they declined it oh and then the press was like, they're doing it their own way. And it's so funny how like how media narrative like they were just like, because in America, especially people love Megan, the press loves Megan. So if she didn't give her son a title, they were like, she wants him to have a normal life. And then we watched the thing. She's like, no, no, they literally like didn't give us one. Yeah yeah so I feel like in watching this interview and I mean I feel like we say this all the time it's like it was reminding me even of like real house

I was in stuff and it's like this is their truth like this yes yes yes yes this is what they experienced like they're sharing how they felt through all of these things and what it made them feel like and that's their truth and and there's no arguing with that I feel like there are so many things that the palace that members of the royal family are just like shouting in the palace that are just like their retorts to what they're saying but we will never get that from the palace so it's up to us to just like do a little digging and find out maybe why Archie wasn't Prince even though like a a stipulation could have been made for him just like you know they they write in new rules all the time but it wasn't done for him yeah and I really felt like at the end of the day I completely agree

with you like this is their story I don't think they were lying and at the end of the day like the the people of the world are so divided on this. Like either they feel like Megan is a manipulative social climber or they feel like she's the most wronged woman in the world and they have so much compassion for her. And I don't think the interview changed anyone from either side. I think if you thought one way, you were fortified in that thinking. And if you thought another way, you were even more thinking that after the interview I don't know the interview like sometimes when we talk about like celebrities especially at this level of um fame it's like they start to not feel like real people and so I feel

like this interview just really showed you that that's exactly what they are that she's yes you're sitting in a palace but like what are you doing all day I feel like it definitely um gave more context for me at least as to how they got to a place where they felt like the only way to go move forward was to leave the family and that's not something that I that I saw like before that I could understand before and so I feel like it definitely um changed some the like how I felt about some things. About the exit. Yeah, about the exit where I came to the conclusion like this was their only choice. Whereas when it happened a year ago, I'm like, what are you doing?

No, I completely agree. I'm like, this is disrespectful. And now I'm like, no, like when you have a kid, it just makes things more serious. And I think leaving was the best decision for them. Now, of course the cynic in me did roll her eyes at a few moments one of them in the chicken coop with ariel and her voice she marries the prince and and i do i see the parallel but um and i think maybe you know megan and harry did have some disney plus voiceover work and maybe megan will be doing

something with the little mermaid and this was like a little promotion for it because I also promoted Harry and Oprah's Apple TV series um but I did I did roll my eyes at that and that's because I'm just not that type of person who would think that that's like charming and maybe someone would and this is not a slight towards Megan I just thought it was like cringy yeah there were two things where I was like I don't know if I believe all this the first was when they were asking about like because Oprah asked the question that we all have. It's like, you went to Spotify and Disney, multi-million dollar deals. Like, was this always-

I appreciated that question tremendously. Was this always the plan? And I felt like their answer just wasn't like strong enough. Like when they were like, we never even thought about the streamers. Streamers. Right? Yes, no, I I agree I didn't completely

buy that I feel like it's not I don't fault people for wanting money like I get that first of all we all saw the video of Howie pitching Megan to Bob Iger before they ever left the family so they were obviously thinking about the jobs that they would need to get if they went through with this plan and I think that that that's a very reasonable thing to think about though if you're gonna leave everything behind like and you have to get a job you need to make a plan so I feel like they tried to pretend like they just sort of fell into all of these deals and contracts when I don't think that's what it was like I didn't even remember that and then the other thing that I thought was interesting is when Oprah asked them if they watched The Crown, I thought that the dynamic between the two of them was really interesting.

Meghan didn't answer. She waited for Harry to say that they watched some of it. And then Meghan just repeated what he said. And it was like they were like feeling embarrassed to say that they watched The Crown. I know. And that for me was the biggest bombshell. But then apparently he went on James Corden like literally two weeks ago and had already said it.

And he said Gran has seen a few. Yes. And so when I saw your story, I literally two weeks ago and had already said it. And he said, Gran has seen a few. Yes. And so when I saw your story, I was like, no, he already said it. And that's why. Yeah. But I thought that that was interesting that like she didn't know if she was allowed to say if. Yes.

I have two more thoughts. The first was that another thing I was like a little skeptical of was when, you know, Megan. And by the way, the interview once Harry came out was literally so boring. Like I just could have watched Megan. Megan. Megan was like a little skeptical of was when, you know, Megan, and by the way, the interview once Harry came out was literally so boring. Like I just could have watched Megan. Megan was like a star solo. She is a star. She was the star.

And the parts that were just her and Oprah were infinitely better than when Harry came in. Snooze motherfucking fest because she was spilling tea. Harry was like, oh, I can't. I don't feel comfortable. So don't do an interview. Like, please. was spilling tea harry was like oh i can't i don't feel comfortable so don't do an interview like please um so i was gonna say oh i wasn't really buying when at the very beginning when she was

like you know me and my mom like we didn't know princess diana ever did an interview we never i never googled harry please you're going on a date with a prince of course google him there's no shame in that yeah people are also questioning that that she didn't google um him or you know stuff about the not knowing how to curtsy and and all of this like how she could have learned and it and that harry should have taught her and it wasn't on them and getting an instructor for her um i mean that's so intimidating imagine like being an american we don't know anything about like the custom stuff and like the fact that you do curtsy even when you're inside it's not just a formality like for the outside world and then like going to a lunch and having to know all these

things immediately like I I wouldn't know no of course not like I would literally walk up and be like yo what's up Gma what's good yeah no and I remember there were even articles like Megan crossed her legs the wrong way like right yeah at an event and it's like she probably didn't know she did it wrong until the press said it because like how would she know that that's even a thing or like the nail polish and stuff yeah well actually two more thoughts sorry I actually loved when Meghan was recounting how she has a wonderful relationship with the queen and how the queen invited her to that day of engagements and gave her the pearl necklace and the pearl earrings i was like oh i just wish that's how it was forever because that is a beautiful i love the queen and i love megan and so like two queens seeing each

other like we love to see that but i was left a little confused because they really made it a point to to push that they are on excellent terms with gran like they facetimed her when you know prince philip went to the hospital. But I don't know how you do this interview and kind of shit on the family, the firm, the institution and continue to have that relationship with Gran. I don't know how Gran can not see past it. Yeah, like it puts Gran's life work in jeopardy.

And I agree. I think this might put a strain on their relationship with Gran. Me as well. But those are my official thoughts. We talked about it for 30 minutes. I think this might put a strain on their relationship with Gran. Me as well. But those are my official thoughts. We talked about it for 30 minutes. I'm looking at the timer. Like I could go on for years.

I know. Those are my biggest takeaways. But ultimately I'm happy for them. Like I really, really am. And I think that at least I want to forge this path of like I can be happy for Megan and Harry. And still be um a Queenie Stan and still watch the crown still watch the crown like still you know support the the monarchy yeah at the end of the day I agree my number one takeaway was like these people did

what they absolutely had to do and they are so much better for it oh and also Tyler Perry is the king of my heart body and soul giving them security and his mansion like gotta get be gotta become friends with tyler perry yeah yeah um also i just oh and by the way there are some um like uh like supporting stories about this like are you seeing all the drama with pierce morgan and bethany frankel i saw oh supporting story sorry like yes i saw bethany's tweets i saw that pierce morgan went on a tirade on his show but i didn't watch it so he basically said he didn't believe like what megan was saying about like her struggle with mental health and then which is like a shitty fucking thing to say but that's like pierce morgan like he's always just being like a shit starter and i don't know why people give him attention and he also like has beef with megan markle history they have history

because according to pierce more i think pierce morgan was in love with her um you think and according to him like they were friendly before she met harry i think she even like met up with pierce like maybe even the night that she met har she like had a drink with Pierce not a date not romantic just like you know celebrities getting together and then she met Harry and never spoke to him again I think that's like where he comes from but I think he's butthurt yeah yeah but so then this morning on Good Morning Britain like they were talking about what Pierce had said yesterday um and he got a lot of backlash and he just like walked off the set which I really don't have any respect for because if you're gonna be an animal like always at least have the courage

of your convictions to you know defend those convictions on your show but he like got up and walked away he's like i'm not doing this like i just i really i don't have any space for pierce morgan like i really find him to be so annoying and after he came for Kim like we're done with him yeah also the Bethany tweets um she had like she tweeted before the interview aired and then afterwards just said like those were my thoughts I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings um I think but her sort of like thesis was like oh so hard being in a castle with like and being a princess um but you know I mean that's her opinion I think a lot of people feel that way too you know that's exactly what I was gonna say I mean she's entitled to her opinion some people Chrishell Stouse doesn't agree with

it um right but like I think that there are people who are watching at home like in the middle of a pandemic like them trying to relate you know being kept in their castle and not being able to go she's overexposed to being in a pandemic when, like, people have lost their jobs, their family members, their livelihoods. Like, I just, I think there are some people who are just like, please. And Bethany's speaking to them. You know, it definitely felt, it definitely felt a little out of touch at times. But I think with the Bethany thing, it's like, she said what a lot of people think. And then she watched the interview and had a change of heart, which I think is a was kind of the point of the interview like Megan and Harry know these

narratives about them and they wanted their story to be out there and they told it and people had change of hearts like Bethany like isn't that the goal yeah I also this is what I was going to say my only lingering thing is like ultimately yes you want to get your story out there you want people to hear you but knowing that the palace will never do something like this either like what was the ultimate point of all of this of doing this interview they made their break they have these these they have a podcast they have all of these different mediums where they can they have a voice they have an audience and a platform and what was the intention for the interview I think to clear their names like especially mostly Megan

yeah like she's been dragged but the thing is she hasn't been dragged in America like for us like we we support her we have compassion for her and her struggles. And we know it must've been incredibly difficult to be where she was being a divorced mixed race woman. Like we know that. So I actually find it strange that they did it as like an American interview on CBS. And it came like a day later to Britain, like with an afterthought, whereas like the people she should be talking to and kind of the, the people who, who she feels like her name should be cleared are really more in the UK. Yeah.

But I think that they have a better chance. I mean, they do, they already have it of cultivating like a major audience in the US. So I think, sure. If she wants to change more minds head across the pond, but if you want to like become,

you know, be the star that you are America is the place for you I think they also just like wanted the moment marked in history and like that like Diana did it and so it just felt like kind of like a rite of passage yeah you know I mean I think they got a lot I think the whole fucking world is talking about this and I think that they got so much out of this interview. I just, whenever you call up Oprah and say, I want to tell my side, like to what end? I just am curious.

I don't know. Yeah, no, that's a good question. I don't know. Yeah, because I think also like there was a lot of promotion for Harry and Oprah's mental health, Apple TV. Like I think there's definitely just, you know, there's a business element to it. So I'm just curious about that.

They also said at the beginning of the interview that they were not getting paid for this interview. But I read multiple places that like they sold the licensing rights for somewhere between $7 and $9 million. So I didn't understand that. Yeah. I think, but who owned the licensing rights? Was it Oprah? I have no idea because Megan said

that they are not getting paid like for the interview I don't know that is I don't know yeah did Oprah make all the like did they split it and it was done by Harpo Productions like who owns that I'm on it Claude H-A-R Harry Prince of Produ Productions. Harpo. Oh my gosh. Hold on. Harpo Productions is a company founded by Oprah Winfrey and based in California. Maybe Harry's an investor. Perhaps. Anyways, that is our official recap.

If any other thoughts of yours come up, please feel free to share them. I feel like I'll be thinking about this. I'm sure we'll be talking about it all week. Yeah,'m sure wherever I land on this in like the next few weeks might even be different than how I feel today but I'm glad that we had some time to process it because I was just thinking about it all day yesterday and then after I watched it I did the little mix um peloton ride and I was just like in a UK state of mind, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So are you ready to move on from this? I mean, everything else just feels like small potatoes. We're going to literally breeze through the next three stories,

four stories, because all that matters is Harry and Meghan. And we'll be talking about it. So if you're sad the recap's over, don't worry. I'm sure it'll come up pretty much every day this week. Yeah, like apparently Thomas Markle is doing his own thing. Oh my God. The Markle family, like the sister, Samantha, Samantha Jones Bush.

What's her name? Samantha Jones Markle. Samantha Markle. Is her name not Samantha Bush? Did I make that up? Hold on. I'll find out. Megan.

Because she really looks like Kim Cattrall. Yeah, she does samantha markle okay i don't know where i came up with samantha bush samantha markle is so torturing like she's a torturer like i feel so much sympathy for megan that she ever even had to meet that woman like she i don't even know her she just looks and feels like a monster like i just would never want to be her stepsister or whatever I just I never have clicked on an article where she's me neither I have a question because apparently Megan spoke about Thomas and Samantha but was it not part of the main interview no they

have like released all these deleted scenes that I've only seen on TikTok but it's really annoying because they're like making new stories out of it I know and i'm like they're deleted scenes i know well no they were also uh on cbs this morning the next morning like bonus um waitie katie what waitie katie what's that so megan was saying how like you know when when they were date when kate and william were dating and finally got engaged the press called her waitie katie because she was always waiting for William to propose to her. And Megan was like, and that's horrible. And I can't imagine what that was like to go through, but it doesn't even qualify with the straight up racism that I received. And I actually thought that was like a really interesting point. And I don't know why that would only be in, I could think of a million

other things that should have been a deleted scene and not that. Yeah. No, I actually felt like even though it was two hours, I didn't feel like there was a moment wasted. It was good. It was, yeah, it was really good. And apparently there's even more and I haven't watched it. So I was like, did I miss all this Thomas Markle stuff? Cause it never came up in the special.

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slash toast. Thank you, BetterHelp. A fabulous service that in the pandemic is so pertinent. Yes. Okay, next story. The Grammy performers for 2021 have been revealed. I think everyone's going to be excited. On Sunday, the Grammys announced its lineup of performers for the 2021 show, which is set to air on March 14th at 8 p.m. on CBS, hosted by Trevor Noah. The list of performer includes Bad Bunny, Black Pumas, Cardi B, BTS, Brandi Carlile, DaBaby, Doja Cat, Billie Eilish, Mickey Guyton, Haim, Brittany Howard, Miranda Lambert, Lil Baby, Dua Lipa, Chris Martin, John Mayer, Megan Thee Stallion, Maren Morris, Post Malone, Roddy Ricch, Harry Styles, and Taylor Swift.

Is it remote? Probably. They didn't reveal whether performances would be live or pre-taped, but they did say that the show will pay tribute to the independent venues which have been greatly impacted by the pandemic. So I'll definitely watch it still, even though like I hate remote award shows, just because I actually really liked the Grammys

and I'm invested in like album of the year, folklore, all that stuff. But I have to tell you, I saw a Photoshop version going around and I was shocked because it had like most of the same people, but it also had Dixie D'Amelio. And when I tell you like my jaw, and it looked so real, shocked because it had like most of the same people but it also had Dixie D'Amelio and when

I tell you like my jaw and it looked so real my jaw hit the fucking floor I was like there's no way and it obviously ended up being fake um that's hysterical also knowing that it's the Grammys I'm sure some of these people will be like performing together in a way that is um not what you would expect so that's exciting. I don't know if I'm going to watch because not watching the Golden Globes was one of the most liberating things I've ever done with my time. A joy. An absolute joy.

But this is something I would watch the performances after. And I think it's exciting that Taylor Swift is performing. Maybe she's coming with a new single. Very exciting. I mean, that would be crazy. But I do think she'll probably perform Cardigan from... You think? Not Willow?

I mean, that's the one that got nominated a bunch of times. And the album. Haim is there. They'll probably do the worst song on the album. I think he did it. Actually, no, they wouldn't. Taylor, like, Taylor is so much like... When you watch her documentaries and you followed her for so long,

she cares a lot about the Grammys. She would not share the stage. Okay. I just want to say that's the worst song on the album and I feel really completely disagree oh my god that's so crazy I've listened I've actually been listening to Evermore so much to the point where I'm like it might be better than Folklore I know Willow Ivy like it really has some unbelievable songs on there. Gold Rush is just the most amazing song. And so I've listened to it so much that I feel like solidified in my top choices and my bottom choice, which is, you know, the fake church bells. Yeah, I like that song.

But I'm excited. I would love to see Harry Styles and Taylor perform together, even though that would like never happen. But I just love seeing them on the same ticket what about john mayer and harry style oh john mayer and taylor swift that was my other question john mayer does that mean he's coming out with music soon he's probably just like collabing with someone performing a cover of a classic he's a go-to like collab guy a hundred percent him and Charlie Puth oh yeah no there's like a lot of people a Meghan Trainor and Tori Kelly yes very good very good yeah okay well so if you're watching the Grammys that's what you have to look forward to I still haven't decided

if I will be but um someone who should be performing at the Grammys but they didn't say she is is Olivia Rodrigo who was saying agreed Pete Davidson is her celebrity crush and once I read that I was like oh they're gonna start dating yeah well actually there's been a lot of Olivia Rodrigo news lately like of course um she went on Sirius XM and said like Taylor Swift actually sent her a um a note and a ring it's like a three thousand dollar ring that taylor was like obsessed with when taylor was writing red and she thought that olivia would really like it and then joshua bassett was on like some weird web show and they were playing a game like this or that and they did

driver's license or skin and he like waited a minute and he chose driver's license oh my god are they still together because if not there i't know. They also like had a collab coming out Sabrina and Josh that they decided not to move forward with. Oh my god they definitely broke up which like I'm happy for Sabrina to be like out of this web. I can't believe he chose Driver's License. I know. But that means that they're broken up. I just want to say obviously Driver's License is the most amazing song. I could listen to it all day every day.

But I think Skin is also so good. I listen to it a lot and I just want to like give props to that song as well yeah I mean it's just like it sucks that it came out like against driver's license which literally became the biggest song in the world it literally is bigger than like what does the fox say no I agree also um that gift that Taylor sent Olivia sounds so nice and thoughtful and it reminded me that while I was away I actually got you a gift oh I um it's nothing like so special but I just it made me think of you and I think you'll thoroughly enjoy it oh my god I'm literally gonna cry that's so nice I'll get you

something too but only like if it's like I saw this thing and I was like Claudia needs this it's it's everything Claudia's about is it edible no okay okay I'm so excited that's literally the nicest thing like anyone's ever done for me thank you so much and did you get anyone else anything or just me nothing else there like screamed anyone else just there was something that screamed oh my god I'm so special um okay but Olivia Rodrigo revealed that Pete Davidson is her celebrity crush she said never in my wildest dreams did I think they were going to do a driver's license sketch where they played like the entirety of driver's license and Pete Davidson who is my biggest celebrity crush was

singing it and comparing me to Taylor Swift who is my idol she told radio.com it was just insane it was on my 18th birthday too so it was a crazy day and now i'm like oh she's 18 like she'll be dating jackie i was literally saying like she said she was 18 just like so if the article came across pete's desk he would know like it would be legal um i i hope they don't start dating because she's like so young but like here's what we learned like olivia rodriguez just like all of us like you you know she loves Pete Davidson. I know the girls love Pete Davidson. I know.

And when I watch him like do comedy I get it. But then sometimes I'm like no I don't get it. I think that they're definitely going to go on a date. And he's 27. She's 18. Like it is a bigger gap. But it just feels weirder because like knowing the key part about Olivia and Joshua's relationship is that they never went public because she was too young right so it's like she just feels that young

no she got famous for being underage like in my mind she will always be 16 yeah I feel that but I just thought that was an interesting factoid and I feel like she's definitely Pete Davidson's type like a mega talented brunette queen yes he. He loves a talented queen. He really does. So he should love me. I mean, you could be next, Claude. I could. That's definitely true.

Anything's possible. Next up, we have a little podcasting news. Stassi Schroeder announces her new parenting podcast on Patreon. We also love a little Patreon news as well. Stassi is staging a comeback after being axed from Vanderpump Rules last June. The reality star who welcomed her first child with Beau Clark in January announced that she and her fiance

are launching a parenting podcast on Patreon. She wrote on Instagram, quote, becoming a parent is literally the best, most fucking overwhelming, magical, chaotic, incredible thing that's ever happened to me. And I'm so excited to start sharing the good, the bad, the messy, the little moments, the what the best, most fucking overwhelming, magical, chaotic, incredible thing that's ever happened to me. And I'm so excited to start sharing the good, the bad, the messy, the little moments, the

what the fuck, and everything in between. She said, join our family on Patreon, where we have started a brand new exclusive podcast called The Good, The Bad, The Baby. We'll be sharing the real moments as they happen, as well as exclusive videos and more once we figure this shit out. The Good, The Bad, The Baby. I keep thinking of Dua Lipa with DaBaby from that song, Levitating.

That's funny. I didn't think of that. Sorry, I'm choking over here. Are you okay? No, you know, I got this little fucking little tickle in my throat. It won't fucking go away. Just give me a second.

Oh, okay. Well, in the meantime, I mean, we'd love to see, we'd love to see a Patreon podcast in general. We had discussed what we thought Stassi might do when she came back onto the scene. And I think that going back into podcasting is a great choice for her. I think that Patreon is a great platform. We obviously love it.

I think it's a great place to build a community. And for her burgeoning family, I think this is a really great choice. Yes, we did discuss it. And I do believe I said she would be entering the mommy space. And you were like, really? And you were right. And suddenly I remember something, of course. I'm sure someone told you that you said that.

No, no, no, no, no, no. I swear it's like a genuine memory. You've been holding on to this, waiting to see. I've been holding on, just like waiting to rub it in your face. Well, you were right. And I think it's like definitely the logical next steps. And she is a mommy and she's also a podcaster. So why not a mommy podcast?

Yeah. No, it'll be interesting to watch. Like, you know, we're always talking about like quote unquote cancellations and like how people come back from it. And I'm very interested to see like what she does next. And I think this was a smart move. I don't know many people who have exclusive Patreons without like a public free podcast.

So I'm just, I just think it's interesting. Yeah, it is an interesting podcasting move. And if you're already on Patreon, head over to patreon.com slash the morning toast where we're delivering premium exclusive content. Okay, fifth and final story is a little book news. I've been loving the book news. I don't know about you.

Love the industry of book news. The final Fifty Shades of Grey novel, as told by Christian Grey, is coming soon. novel as told by Christian Grey is coming soon. Freed, Fifty Shades Freed as told by Christian, the third and final book in E.L. James's BDSM themed trilogy that serves as a spin-off series for her Fifty Shades of Grey trilogy now has a release date June 1st. The announcement about her sixth novel in the franchise was made on Sunday. I think it's interesting that it's coming from Christian's perspective and reminds me a little bit of my son. Yeah, well, that's like Twilight. Yeah.

Is that Twilight? That's Twilight, yeah. Yeah, I agree. It's like this new thing, people telling stories from whatever perspective. I never read any of the Fifty Shades books and I never watched the movie because do you remember all that casting drama like Henry Cavill is that his name yeah was supposed to be Christian Grey and I was like so on board for it and then he like dropped out for some other movie and they gave it to Jamie Dornan and I'm like this scrawny motherfucker is Christian Grey and I just didn't get it so I've never supported the franchise

but um I might find myself reading the books every now and then I would't get it. So I've never supported the franchise, but I might find myself reading the books every now and then. I would definitely check it out. I read the first book I remember. It was all right. Also, I remember when the Fifty Shades movies were like a big deal and we used to read empty and he would always say that like Jamie Dornan and Dakota Johnson like really don't get along. And so for me, like a romance movie doesn't work unless the leads are in love and I feel like that's why Dizzy Shades while it's obviously a blockbuster you know huge movie it will never like be an iconic film because not only are they not in love they actually don't like each other and they're supposed to be like the greatest love story of our time that is a brilliant analysis like actually such a good point oh wow thanks so much let's end it there you got one point I'll get one point oh wow we're even today no but I got you a gift so I got two

points I'm getting you one don't worry I still have a few days left on my trip sweet okay let's just talk about The Bachelor quickly um so you can get back to your fabulosity um I know it just feels weird to talk about literally anything other than Harry and Meghan so like ever since we stopped talking about Harry and Meghan like I I'm over it, you know? Yeah, the episode's over. But let's just talk about The Bachelor. But it's not. I need one minute.

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no he's a man of taste it was fantasy sweet week the first date was michelle they had a great date where they like went to the spa but like mostly just played with food and rubbed it all over each other um well that's weird because she's a teacher and they like had her kids come on zoom last week so her kids gonna watch us oh i don't know like there was such a funny tweet of like like these minnesota kids watching michelle go into the fantasy suite with Matt. It's a stark contrast. He took all of the women into the suite no one got like sent home on the spot there was no drama or anyone like proposing on the spot. His date with Michelle was really strong and sweet and I felt like she was gonna stay for sure. His date with Brie was also really

great I mean she's just such a fabulous queen but unfortunately she did get sent home last night um i really think that she has a very good chance at being bachelorette and i would absolutely love to see her she showed up to the rose ceremony just looking like royalty her looks royalty her looks are everything off the charts um she just like looked so stunning at the rose ceremony like what a great way to go out even though she's always stunning you know what um i find really interesting is that you know she only has 200 000 followers like i checked this morning interesting that is really interesting i feel like the follower counts for everyone this season are really low yeah it's also like a little because literally the only thing people are talking about is Rachel Kirkconnell yes and I

think Rachel Kirkconnell has the most out of this season but typically at this point in the season people would be starting to hit a million and I don't I think Rachel Kirkconnell is still like below 500k so it's just like a lower season we also talked about how the ratings are lower I think that like also people I don't know maybe it's just like a a sign of the times like that the bachelor and the instagram ecosystem are falling out of step right or maybe it's just that brie is black and bachelor nation has a race problem yes that we have seen we saw we all saw the charts um ben is yelling at me because I'm using his computer he's gonna have to wait because like we're doing yeah like we're talking about the bachelor ben um then he had his date

with rachel she is just like so head over heels in love with him like she couldn't even she showed up to the date just like so gloomy because she was the third date and she knew that the other two girls spent the night with him and she was just so upset and that's tough it's tough it's tough and so she voiced that to him and they you know obviously made them even stronger uh she loves him yeah of course uh she told him like a million times that she loves him like wants to marry him is ready to accept the proposal right now and they had a presumably nice evening together as well and then he sent brie home so it was pretty much like oh and also in the beginning of the episode there was this big conversation with his dad they brought his dad there I'm sure

you saw like a lot of this and it was just like very personal I think everyone who was watching was just like why is this happening on my television right now so what is his relationship with his dad I think it's always been strained and so he felt like um that that was contributing to like some commitment issues on his end. And he wanted to sort them out before making like a commitment or attempting to, and which is all like so respectable. I just like,

it felt a little, um, like exploitative for the bachelor to be like airing it. Yeah. No, that like, that feels like a personal convo, you know?

Right. So, um, that's what you missed on Glee. Well, one other fact that I just want to share is that what we know about Matt is that he's extremely religious. And I have a hard time believing he actually had sex with all three girls. You know, they always make it seem like the lead has sex with all three finalists.

And we've now found out later, like, Ben Higgins didn't have sex with Kayla. Like, there's all these different things. Raven and Nick did not have sex. So I wouldn't be surprised if he only had sex with the winner who I believe to be Rachel Kirkconnell yes I believe to be Rachel Kirkconnell just based on everything that's happened off screen but also on screen like they really are falling madly in love I think he definitely did not have sex with Brie just definitely in my head yeah and I think there's a chance that him and Michelle did have sex but I don't know that interesting I was just reading the vibe I'm really looking forward like my zest for the for the franchise will come back for after the final rose because there's

so much and now we're finally all caught up you know watching this stuff with Rachel knowing all the stuff that had already happened it seemed silly and like a waste of our time so I'm looking forward to finally catching up with everyone. In real time. Yes. I agree. We're on our way there. I guess next week.

We'll have our winner. And then I think after the final rose. Is like that same night. So hopefully it all. Wraps up next week. And I don't know. Where the franchise goes from here. I don't know.

If I'll be sticking around. To find out. Yeah. But I think that. Either Brie or Michelle. Will be the bachel. Yeah. But I think that either Brie or Michelle will be the Bachelorette and I think that they would both make excellent, excellent choices. I agree. And that is our show. My AirPods are dying because we're going on an hour and 15 minutes, but we needed to catch up and we're back every day this week. And I'm going to be Patreoning while I'm here with TPG doing a little points you know podcast all about traveling

during the pandemic what he thinks of the new change phase situation so we'll put we'll put uh we'll gather questions for that but head over to patreon.com slash a morning toast for that and that's all i got i'm going to the beach have so much fun um we will see you guys tomorrow for another podcast only episode and we missed you love you goodbye love you bye