The Toast - S4 Ep46: The Great Grammy Debate: Monday, March 15th, 2021

Episode Date: March 15, 2021

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast! Welcome back to you! And to the studio, and to the YouTube channel. What up, everyone? We are back, baby! We're back. It's been so long. So much has happened. There was a quarantine, there was a trip. There was so much. There was. And I think it's so important to take time for yourself because like I have this zest for life right now like this is gonna be the best episode ever wow I'm so excited it's just like I think

I don't even know how to explain how it is that I'm feeling and I hope that everyone who's listening can take time for themselves like just a few days away from your job if you can like it is so refreshing and to see other people there's nothing like it there is nothing like other human beings and I never thought that's something I would say I never I hate other people I never thought that's something that you would say either oh it was delicious I just loved waiting in lines at the airport like I was just like living for it nice well tell us about your trip oh well it was very long and I apologize in advance for taking that extra week off I think I think we all needed it I'm I'm not mad about it I'm happy you got what you needed out of it I liked you know being at home and but I'm also so happy to be back in

studio finally but I needed to miss the studio that's it it's like you need to miss don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you got to let's go. Literally. Literally. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. So I definitely felt that. And I just, I was supposed to leave on Monday. And this feeling like of having to leave was making me so upset.

I was like, I can't. Like, I was literally going to cry. I'm like, I love vacation me. And I'm tan and I'm beautiful and I'm excited. I don't have anxiety. So I was with Brian because we were celebrating his birthday, TPG. And of course, he had like a whole other leg of his trip planned to this other island and this amazing hotel.

So I decided to just book a room and, you know, throw caution into the wind. And I've never been that type of girl, like wanderlust. You're also the type of person that like when your vacation is done, like you are done and you're ready to go home. So if you weren't ready, then it wasn't your time. Much like the San Francisco 49ers, was not your time exactly and I actually like to prep one of my favorite qualities about myself is like I could be on an amazing trip but when the trip is over like I always really want to go home like I always miss my home I always miss Theo I don't fucking miss my home anymore because like I've been there for so long so I knew Theo was in great

hands with his grandparents and I felt like if now, I had Norma in my head. Norma was like, your 20s after this pandemic is over, when you have the first opportunity, like, get the fuck out there. And so I got the fuck out there. And I had the best second half of the trip. I stayed at the Rosewood. And I literally called you the second I got there because you and Zach have to go there.

Like, it is honeymoon central. Rosewood in Virgin Gorda, which is, I've never been to the British Virgin Islands. Sickening. The most, it was giving me Turks and Caicos, Maldives vibes. And it's not super easy to get to, but it's not 16 hours to the Maldives. Like it was gorgeous and it was so unique. Me and Brian did a Patreon episode and he really spoke about how like this is such a

unique time to travel. And if you can, like with so many people are working remotely now, so you really can travel. And if you feel safe doing it, it's super safe. It's so special. Like I was at this hotel that was, they say they were at 10% capacity. Me, Brian and Ben were the only people at this hotel. Like it literally felt like the kids were, the campers were like running the joint. We love to see it.

It's so unique. Like I encourage everyone to safely travel. Cause like Brian said, even on the on the on the podcast like in one way or another like change fees are coming back like all this stuff we're going to get back to where we were before so if you can just like take a weekend for yourself road trip fly somewhere I felt so safe like I never felt for one second like I was in like a situation that I was uncomfortable with the BVIs I've had my nose poked and prodded I think probably six or eight times in the two weeks that I was gone because they have very strict rules so I felt really safe even though

they do the COVID test a little different in the BVI like they choke you to death like in the airport the second you land in Tortola they test you and I walk out of the center and I'm like Ben like was that I'm like a baby so I'm like was that insane he we come out crying like they just do it differently in the BVIs but whatever I got I was allowed to travel so all in all thank you everyone for giving me the grace of taking an extra week off and it was incredible and self-care self-care is so important except I was doing a peloton ride and Robin NYC said something like so profound didn't she just just give birth? She just gave birth. And also I've been back on my Peloton grind.

I'm finally beating my old record. So like I've gotten to a good place mentally. Not like physically really, but I guess that's good. Emotionally is all that matters. But she once said in a ride that really stuck with me, sometimes self-care looks like hard work. Not what you were just saying. You know, we're like speaking different languages no no but

like sometimes it does you know like yeah well yeah it depends if you're robin nyc like of course like i'm sure robin nyc also like goes on vacation and chills out but like sometimes what you need to do what's best for yourself is to put in the work okay so like i'm like hating that you're saying that because let me tell you why like i'm the type of person like who unpacks like the second i get home and of course I have not unpacked and it's killing me but like I just can't like to unpack the memories it'll be so sad and like I'm just not in the mood and I feel like in order to feel my best I should unpack sometimes self-care looks like hard work sometimes self-care looks like unpacking it's so unlike me like I'm I literally like I could get

home but the thing is I think that you've been taking care of yourself so like if you slip on the unpacking like it's fine the scales they balance out like I literally just want to like hire an intern to unpack for me like I so don't want to why can't Theo do it because he's useless do do do do do do I missed him so much how's Bruiser you guys your stories by the way sorry to cut you off like for the thousandth time um your stories have been some of your finest work really i keep responding to everyone lol like i feel like nobody cares about bruno and his cone oh i mean i don't know about i can't speak for you know the whole community but you're a tough critic so if you if you're into it then i think others are too hysterical he's doing well like every day he's getting better his spirits are coming back but it's like this sense of betrayal like that he feels i've taken away his committed towards him

it's really put a strain on our relationship and i keep telling him like brew it will get better like better days are ahead of you what can i do to make you feel special like what does brew want to do brew needs some self-care brew needs a vacation what about? And really all he wants is to see Magnolia and Theo. Like, and that's all. And he's like, I told you a million times. But can he while he has stitches? Um, well, Knowles has been like busy. Theo's been busy. So it's like, it hasn't even been an option. His stitches seem like on the mend. So as long, I think that in a few days he could see them, but it's like, everyone is so busy. Theo literally is back to back. Back to back to back. And to back to back.

And you know what he's doing all day today? Meetings, meetings, meetings. Meetings, meetings, meetings. He's booked and busy. No, we got to get the band back together. Like now, because we were in quarantine for a week. Then we had two weeks off for the trip. Like it has been like a full ass month since I've seen my family.

Yeah, no. Which is so not like us. It's so not like us. But it's just a wild few weeks. The Parcells would be so upset with us. Like I know. But you know what? I'm sure like Parcells like things have happened. Which is so not like us. It's so not like us, but it's just a wild few weeks. The Parcells would be so upset with us. I know, but you know what? I'm sure Parcells,

things have happened. I saw Rachel was in Hawaii. Yeah, it looks like a beautiful trip. Gotta hit up the montage. Totally. Also, I think we should just talk about, obviously,

the elephant in the room. Which is? How tan I am. There are so many. Well, I'm one right here, but how tan I am. I think we should talk about it. I think it's a beautiful glow.

Do you feel like sickening the sands down I have like I think I'm Gigi Hadid like I'm the most beautiful woman in the world and I was as I was doing my makeup today I was like in the vanity being like oh my god I'm so gorgeous like it really got to me how like of course a spray tan is good but like nothing compares to like a true tan with the freckles and it's like upsetting that we live in New York and like this I'll only look like this for like a few more days and this only happens like once a year and it really made me start thinking like I think I gotta hit up the UV beds like I need like a real tan and it's like yes I could get skin cancer which would not be good but I would be tan. I think a spray tan will have to suffice I don't think I think at this point like the beds we just know too much about them. No and I think a spray tan will have to suffice. I don't think, I think at this point, like the beds,

we just know too much about them. No, and I think our grandfather would be disappointed in us. After all, he did die of skin cancer. Right. But I think, I don't know. I haven't written it off yet. No, no, but you should. I know, but like, how do I get this real looking tan spray? And you know what? Here's the other thing. If you were to look this tan all the time, then you wouldn't even feel fabulous anymore. Shit, bitch, you are so fucking fucking smart so I think enjoy it while you have it sickening let's get a close-up on the tan but like when it goes away like look at my chest like hold on and also like we can't talk about this tan without talking about the sunburn that you had to endure oh my god to get it okay let me tell you let me tell you so me and Ben the whole trip was supposed to be one

weekend and I'm like in the British Virgin Islands for Brian's birthday and I'm like you know what Okay, let me tell you. Let me tell you. So me and Ben, the whole trip was supposed to be one weekend. And I'm like, in the British Virgin Islands for Brian's birthday. And I'm like, you know what, Ben? Like, let's make the most of it. Let's go to, like, a random other island before. And I always get a spray tan before a trip if I'm traveling with other people. Because, you know, you like to get dressed up, whatever. Because it makes everything better.

Makes everything better. But if it's, like, just me and Ben on a trip, like, I don't give a shit what I look like. So I was like, should i get a spray tan or should we go to saint thomas first get really tan and show up to like brian's birthday trip looking sickening so knowing what happened so i'm like that's funny let's do that so we get there we only have like two full days in the sun before we have to go to brian's and so i'm making the most and i'm like not wearing sunblock but i'm like i know i'll get a little burn but that's okay because like I'll be sickeningly tanned in like no time we get back from the beach the first day and you know you don't realize like how bad it is

until you're showered and you're inside and I did look at the UV index um as I was sitting in the sun for literally 12 hours and it said 11. And I don't know why. That seems high. I don't even know why I bothered to look it up because I don't even know what that means. But I later learned it's the highest one. And we get back and me and Ben are tomatoes. It's the kind of sunburn where you're purple, you know? I do know this is hurting me.

It was so crazy. It like literally ruined like a huge part of our trip. Like we could not sit in the sun for any other day like i couldn't even take a bath i wanted to go to the spa i couldn't go to the spa it was crazy we were doing we were so desperate because like we were planning on showing up to the party looking sickening instead you looked sick literally we looked so sick when we arrived everyone was like oh my god are you guys okay and we're like trying to play it off we're like we're fine like we've just been in the sun a lot.

We were dying. We couldn't even walk. Like it was literally like robot walking. It was traumatizing. So this is your sign to wear sunblock. And I feel like because we've not seen the sun for a year, like you do forget how powerful it can be. And so I think a lot of people will encounter,

they'll be so excited for the sun, like so excited to no longer be green, that they'll get a little carried away. So I'm glad we have this warning wear sunscreen I know it's like not so cool to put on sunscreen like while you're like sunbathing I know but like it's also not cool to be purple you should see my back like you would die it's literally looks like I don't even know how to explain it like it's just skin falling off like in every direction and it's so itchy and I can't scratch my back it's literally like the most it's the most cruel thing ever like having a scratch on your back that you can't itch

but imagine having it 24 7 but if I scratch your back you need to scratch mine remember when Kris Jenner almost um managed that girl band bg5 yeah I think that she did but she obviously like would say now that she didn't yeah because it was a huge failure yeah huge failure not everyone can be Little Mix you guys Little Mix is just taking over the world does anyone else feel that way they wake up every day and it's like Little Mix just did something else sickening no I I don't but I don't doubt that you feel that way but it's also because I like on Peloton I guess like you were in the BVIs I was on Peloton right and on the Peloton like all the instructors that i ride with have so much respect for little mix and every single time a little mix song comes on they're like little mix they were on x factor they said girl bands can't

win x factor guess what they did they won x factor is peloton big in the uk maybe um well one of the instructors that i ride with is um from the uk but just cody rigsby has the utmost respect for little mix and it's a pleasure to ride so I actually followed Cody Rigsby on TikTok like not that I know anything about his work I've never even said all I know about like or all you need to know is that like he would be your best friend I know and so like he goes viral on TikTok a lot like not his videos but people are always like clipping his like funny shit that he says on his ride and um so I followed him and good stuff I haven't seen anything yet like I literally did yesterday got it well that's who I've been hanging out with um and Bruno

Sweets and Bruno Sweets and Bruno Sweets every day like a new cone arrives for him yeah to um figure out and he's just like he's like this is better than what I was working with but still a betrayal I was like a deadbeat mom I took the the cone off. Like, I know you're not supposed to, but like Theo didn't lick his suture. So like he was fine. Yeah, we got him like this turtleneck. That's what Theo had. Onesie. And it's just a little big.

I have like a smaller one coming soon. And unfortunately, like we caught him like licking a little. So it had to come off. It was like really sad. I was like, you had one job and it just was to not lick. Yeah, but you can also give him an hour a day without the cone. Just watch him like. Yeah, yeah. so it's been it's been getting better um it's just it was tough for for Bruno Sweets you know. For the whole Wine Rib Sweets family. It really was but I think

eventually it will bring us all together. Of course and I'm just glad that now Bruno can safely play in the park. Very very true. Just in time. Oh everyone's like come into New York it's 65 degrees. It's 27 fucking degrees yard it's 65 degrees it's 27 fucking degrees today it's freezing yeah you guys we had one nice day like let's not get um carried away no that's exactly what people did got carried the fuck away i know and it's like even saturday and sunday was like 30s 40s but everyone was treating it like 60s which was actually nice i actually had a really fun like day outdoor day with my friends on saturday and it was nice to like have that um that vibe again

yeah I saw your stories and I'm like oh homegirl's wearing a fur coat it's not warm anymore right but it's like I'm just gonna act like it's warm but it's not you have to uh wait hold on um create the weather that you wish to see in the world yeah dress for the weather that you wish to see in the world but then sometimes like if you're dressed so out of season, like you look like a fool. Yeah, everyone has a memory of like childhood when it's like it turns to this. Or adulthood.

Yeah, right. But like I have a distinct memory. It's like, oh, it randomly like became spring and like you're still in your fucking like long sleeve turtleneck. And it's like the shame. You never forget incidents like that ever I remember one it was in adulthood where it was like transitioning from um summer to fall and I just decided that it was going to be fall today and so like I got all dressed up for fall and it was like

so hot you fell into fall and I felt so stupid no like I'm telling you like it's literally the most traumatizing and it's such like a random thing and everyone's like aren't you hot yes Sally I'm fucking hot I fucked up like why don't you rub it in it's really like a traumatizing and you're right it happens in adulthood but for me like that traumatizing moment was 100% like in middle school yeah actually my first memory like as like if you think of like the first memory that you that you have it's hard to really pinpoint but I just remember like being in pre-k and I think the seasons were changing and it was that's a really young memory no that's what I'm saying I just remember sitting in class it was like becoming spring and I was wearing a dress and I just remember feeling hot and feeling like this dress wasn't like the right thing to be wearing

like I was at school being cute. And pre-K you wore a dress to school? 100%. 100%. Kids wear like onesies, I thought. No, no, no. Like I was just wearing a cute dress. That is so funny. And I just remember thinking like,

it's a little hot for this dress. Then you had like swamp ass from the dress. Chub rub. I don't remember that. Okay, wait. I think I remember my first memory and it involves you, obviously. Obviously.

So I do have a distinct memory of us. And tell me if I'm making this up, because you know. And also, sometimes memory, like, the idea of memory is just so complex. But also, sometimes someone tells you a story, and then you think that it was your memory. But it's someone telling you a story. Literally, over this weekend, I heard Ben telling someone a story. And I literally turned to him, and I'm like, that's my fucking story. Like, that literally happened to me. And I'm like I I feel like I shouldn't have called him out

because I kind of embarrassed him but like I couldn't believe it. And here you are embarrassing him. I heard him telling the story I'm like that and it wasn't even that long ago it was like one year ago I'm like that's my fucking story. I think that sometimes a memory can like can do that can but it's also like a cool story I think he was just trying to like steal my story oh yeah just let him have it but what's your first memory so we had just had breakfast and we were getting ready for school and we started spinning like oh I know I have this memory and you're beating your pants yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a normal thing to get ready for school have breakfast and then start spinning we were like doing like circles to see who could get the dizziest and we were laughing so hard because we're just so funny we were somebody

and Jackie peed and then she had to get driven to school separately yeah because I didn't make the bus because I peed my pants um just one more thing I wanted to talk about that I didn't um expect to happen you know and I feel like a lot more people should be talking about this because what I really experienced on my trip like you know socializing with not a lot of people of course but just people for the first time was my social anxiety is off the chain like I woke up every morning being like what did I do last night and I didn't even do anything crazy like we sat on the beach like it's just I didn't expect that to be a side effect of the pandemic but I just want to warn everyone like when you start to slowly like emerge

back into social scenes with like not your just immediate circle like I don't give a shit what my immediate circle thinks about me like they're my immediate circle but just like your your social it will it will shake you like it's not we're not used to it well I think also social anxiety like that sort of what you're describing also comes from drinking yes like hangover anxiety yeah but I feel like before the pandemic like a lot of us had managed like that that delicate balance of like drinking having fun, and the moral hangover that comes after it. But I have found that, like, now being in social settings, like, my social skills are just off. Yeah, and, like, people are talking, and I'm like, I just don't care what you're saying. Yeah. But I think I had that before. Yeah, and I think I was always awkward, so. No, you're not awkward. You're just, like,

not super forward. Yeah, but I do, do like I feel hyper aware of my social skills. I'm like. But you know it's cool. It's like so does everyone else. That's true. Everyone is just doing their best. Right. Like everyone comes back from the day and they're like my social skills were weird.

Not oh Jackie was being weird. You know everyone is now like obsessed with like how weird they were. Yeah. How they came off. Yeah. I think we're fine. Yeah. I think we're fine too.

Hopefully. No. Everyone's talking about us. Okay. I think we should get into everything because we have a lot to discuss today. And we have a fabulous interview at the end of the show with Jasmine Sanders, aka the Golden Barbie, who is in this year's edition of Sports Illustrated as she was on the cover last year. She's an icon and a queen.

The episode is podcast only. So if you're watching on YouTube, at the end of the episode, just head over to the podcast because we recorded with her via Zoom. And she was still looking like sickeningly stunningly beautiful and golden a hundred percent um so you think so i think without further ado it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast do i sound hoarse you do okay yeah i don't know why i just like feel hoarse i was actually going to um mention it but then we just, you know, went on a million tangents.

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It was like 7.55, and I was like, I'll turn it on just because it is the Grammys and we do host a pop culture show, and it seems like the thing I should watch. Yes, I know that you and I, we take this like hard stance on award shows. Not always, but especially in the last year because they have a way of feeling so out of touch in so many ways, even though they spend so much time, like airtime during the award show,

like talking about the pandemic, talking about the healthcare workers, how hard this year has been. Just something about it feels like people are literally struggling so hard to put food on the table. I'm like, I just don't care that Laura Dern is wearing Oscar de la Renta. Like, I agree.

Like, that's what we've been saying a lot of this year. And I've always, like, felt just, like, not the most excited person about award shows, especially this year. But I've always felt like the Grammys, if I can watch one, it is the Grammys because there's performances. And I do think that, like, music is so important, especially in difficult times difficult times like I have turned to music so many times this year and it's gotten me through a lot of times so I I don't want to punish the music no and I generally feel like I actually really love music award shows like I would watch like the people's music whatever like American music awards I just love like I happen to be such a big fan of so many popular music artists in pop music, in country music.

So I don't have that same detest. Like I look at the Oscars and the Golden Globes and I'm like, you fucking snobs. Like I can't relate to these people at all. And I just like, I have this like hatred for everyone who acts. I don't have that for the music industry. And I think it's because first of all, right, exactly what you just said, even in the toughest of times, like this year year music has been so helpful like sad music happy music rain on me literally save the year like I don't feel that way about the Grammys and I actually think part

of what's so frustrating about the Golden Globes it's the same fucking four people every year it's like change it up no and it's like we spend so much of our year watching TV and like the things that we watch aren't being talked about. Like where's, you know, Real Housewives of New York on the Golden Globes red carpet. A hundred percent. So I feel like music really nails, it's so diverse in its genres and its people. There's so many different artists, there's Latin artists, like there's just so much. And it feels really representative of the world we live in. Whereas like the Golden Globes, I'm like, what world are you guys living in? Yes, I totally agree. So for that reason, I gave the Grammys a chance.

I watched the opening, like the first chunk until commercials, I think. And there was performances by Harry Styles, Billie Eilish, and Haim. And I just like don't want to be super negative. No, that's okay. That's usually my job, and I'm going to be positive. So let's switch it up. But then I had to turn it off. Yeah, that's okay. That's usually my job and I'm going to be positive. So let's switch it up. But then I had to turn it off. Yeah.

And then Zach was watching it. So I caught, I caught DaBaby, Bruno Mars, Taylor Swift, and Dua Lipa. And I loved all four of those performances. And I was like, I'm leaving on a high. So overall, I'm like neutral. And then I heard really good things about like the rest of the show. I just felt like the opening was like a really bad start. Let's just start from the top.

Like let's go through all the performances and then all the winners. Harry Styles. Okay. I know you said we were talking about this before. You said it felt like a cover band. No. So I think Harry Styles is beyond fabulous. So talented.

Absolutely love his music. Love the song Watermelon Sugar. Who doesn't? I felt like the performance was like kind of lackluster. It felt like someone doing like a talent show at high school doing a really good job but like that's how we're gonna open the Grammys I just wasn't I wasn't totally impressed no I couldn't disagree less like the lack of shirt I don't know like how you could say that was talent show and the boa and the like it was it was gorgeous like I don't think I've ever seen Harry Styles belly like it was everything and he literally said I want your belly and then his belly was out like that is fucking lyrical artistry genius is it yes yes

okay okay agree to disagree okay but I'm with you on Haim like that was I thought it was a really good placement like you know what I mean like that's a great time slot. And I think I've said this before. I should adore Hayden. And I just don't. Friends of Taylor Swift, Jewish sisters. Like, oh, my God. Us. Like, no. No.

Not us. Except that one song that they first came out. The Wire. Sickening. Love that song. Yep. They haven't done it for me since then. And I did like their coordinating Prada outfits. But I'm like, they're just so, like, quirky, you know? And I'm like, it just done it for me since then. And I did like their coordinating Prada outfits,

but I'm like, they're just so like quirky, you know? And I'm like, it just wasn't for me. It was not for me. And Billie Eilish was in between Harry Styles and Haim. And the thing is, is that I just don't think I am meant to be like Billie Eilish's number one fan in terms of like my demographic. I think she speaks for a lot of young people.

I respect her a lot and I think she's extremely talented but she's just not my personal vibe. Is that okay to say? Yeah I think that's fair to say. Okay. Okay so then what happened after? Can we just get a list of the performers so we could just like compliment because the best ones were Dua Lipa like oh my god what a star. Star. Every time I see her perform I'm reminded of like how incredibly talented she is. Her music is not only stellar. Like she's literally, if she tried desperately to release a bad song, she couldn't. But when she performs, she comes to life.

She's such a good dancer. She's such a good live performer. Her voice is so good. Her outfits were so sickening. Chris Appleton did her hair and you could just tell like her hair was sickening. Her red carpet, Cher, Butterfly. She got a 10 out of 10 on every level and as the awards went by like she kept not winning them and I was surprised she did end up winning one and I was happy for her I was happy for her too Cody Rigsby really campaigned for her to win album of the year it wasn't gonna happen I know

but I think she had like a really good chance and I would have been happy if she had won. I'm obviously so happy that Taylor won. There was literally no way that any other album, and I'm not just like a delusional Taylor fan. Even though I absolutely lived for Dua Lipa's music this year and like some of like physical and Don't Start Now are some of the best songs of all time. I actually don't think I ever listened, actually in the beginning, like once or twice I listened to Future Nostalgia from start to finish. And like as a whole. Yeah, but that but that was it no and it's like but I listened to Folklore from start to finish all the countless times I did it this morning while doing my hair and makeup like and

I think that it's just and I'm not just saying this as a delusional Taylor Swift fan which I am I'm not denying that but I think so many people whether they're Taylor Swift fans or not like leaned on that album so heavily like it came out at the worst time for everyone like for whatever different reason whether you were struggling like emotionally financially mentally like that album literally like cured coronavirus like it just it didn't cure coronavirus it cured quarantine like it made quarantine bearable it gave us something to live for and not to put down any of the other albums but like album of the year represents the year. Folklore was this year.

I'm not arguing with you. No, just in case there's anyone who maybe didn't understand. Cody would. And it was a good album. Not putting it down. I don't think Cody loves Taylor Swift, but also they don't play Taylor Swift on Peloton. I don't think they have no rights to her music.

So we'll never, he's never had to discuss her. We'll find out. We'll find out. Okay. Black Pumas performed. Doja Cat. Doja Cat's outfit was really, really brave. Yeah.

No, it wasn't good. But her performance, she always impresses me. I'm like, oh, yeah, she is really good. Because, like, her music is good, but she's like a Dua Lipa. Like, the singing, the dancing, on fleek. Like, she was great. Yeah. Post Malone.

I love Post Malone. And just, like, the fact that there was a very small gathering of people on that roof kind of how they did at the CMAs and we kept getting panned to people who were just like watching the performances which is my favorite part of award shows was great he was giving me like the best reactions to other people's performances and his performance was excellent too and I feel like I know she's um like not technically single but I think him and Cardi B would be a really cute couple oh cute also when they had like their little you know gym auditorium of performances and you saw like the other people in the background um it was an interesting I loved it addition yeah it's just

like they had to be on the whole time right which is hard yeah uh Megan Thee Stallion okay unbelievable like unbelievable like nobody worked harder at the Grammys than Megan Thee Stallion okay unbelievable like unbelievable like nobody worked harder at the Grammys than Megan Stallion like nobody it was such a good performance and then when Cardi came out in that big bed it was everything everything okay I have to watch that one oh you didn't see it oh no I didn't see it I said the ones that I did see it was so sickening like literally just they were working and they did WAP they did body yada y. They did a little, I think they did a little Savage. It was like a medley. It was unbelievable.

And they had this huge bed constructed. And it was just like so sickening. And then like Trevor Noah came out and like was making really bad jokes. And I have something to say about Trevor Noah. I've seen a lot of people critiquing him. And he started to annoy me. And then it occurred to me, it's like even the best host in the world always becomes annoying at some point in the night.

And I actually think Trevor Noah, like, did a really good job of keeping the annoyances down. To a minimum. But his peak annoying was when he came out on stage, like, to Cardi B when she was done and, like, being like, this is my dream. Like, he was being so annoying. I'm like, Trevor, like, just cut to commercial. Yeah.

Okay. That's fair. John Mayer and Maren Morris. It was really cute. I loved it. I was waiting for John Mayer to sing, but he just played guitar, which we love, but like, come on. Oh, I didn't realize.

Okay, so let me know what that sounds like. Taylor Swift. There's so much to unpack. First of all, let's start with the song Selects. We got Card cardigan which isn't my favorite song but i think it really showcases how talented taylor is in terms of like lyrical i knew you'd haunt all of my what ifs like just like all these beautiful soliloquies then she gets up off the grass and she's sitting on top of the house and she sings

august which of the two albums she released this year, I would say August is probably my favorite song. And the fact that she- What about Peace? Oh, but see, I don't want to listen to Peace just like anywhere. Like I would listen to August like on a plane, a train, and like I would listen, Peace is reserved. So August, yes, I stand by what I said. August is so good. And the fact that she played it means like she knows

that it's like, you know, my song. Then I'm like, oh wow, that was so great. Then she goes into an Evermore song, Willow, which is my fucking favorite song on that album. And Aaron Dessner, the lights come on, Aaron Dessner, Jack Antonoff, they're in front. She's with her dress. You realize like the house they're in. Really, I think it was meant to resemble Lily Pond Studios. Yeah.

Is that what it was called? It was, I don't think it was Lily Pond. Pond. Pond. Pondery think it was Lily Pond. Pond. Pond. Pondery Place. Taylor Swift Pond. Long Pond Studios. Okay, I was really close.

And it was just like beautifully metaphorical and wonderful. And she looked gorgeous. And the songs were gorgeous. She sounded gorgeous. It was a 10 out of fucking 10. Yes. I loved the set. It looked like a storybook. I felt like that was a great use of fucking 10. Yes. I loved the set. Looked like a storybook.

I felt like that was a great use of, you know, the auditorium situation. And it was clear that it could be done. Yeah, it could be done. Also, before her was Bruno Mars and Anderson.Paak, Silk Sonic. Now that. That was my number one performance of the night. It was stellar. It was so fucking good.

That song, we haven't had a chance to recap the first song that came out, Leave the Door Open, and it's so amazing. He just nails that aesthetic. Like, he has this idea and the way that it comes to life. Like, I knew, like, with the outfits and the dancers and the microphones and the song, it was just really so, like, beautifully disco-y. Yes. I love him.

It was so good. I'm so excited for the album they're putting out and it was such a treat to like have him back on the Grammy stage like in the mix where he should be where he should be he took a break I'm happy for him sometimes self-care looks like taking a break but sometimes it looks like coming back to the Grammys and giving the people what they want I couldn't agree more so well said um DaBaby and Roddy Rich okay but what they want. I couldn't agree more. So well said.

DaBaby and Roddy Ricch. Okay. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. When those old women, like, who were in the choir, were, like, choiring,

like, making gossip, it was so brilliant. But also, like, dancing. Yes. They were giving me life. I thought it was such an interesting way to perform a song that we've heard so many times. And I had so much respect for the ingenuity.

Like he just he literally turned a rap song into like a gospel soul song. It was so genius. I loved it. Yeah. Did Justin Bieber perform? No. No. I'm going through the list of nominees.

Did Lady Gaga or Ariana Grande? No. Did Beyonce? No. No. But she gave us so much life in oh oh I forgot you didn't watch okay so her and Megan Thee Stallion won I forget what the category was but obviously hips tick tock when I dance that song yes of course and like Beyonce

let Meg like make the whole speech Megan was like freaking out that she was on stage with Beyonce and as uh this as she, like the stage was ending, Trevor Noah, of course, like pops in. And he's like, by the way, like history has just been made. Beyonce is now tied with, he didn't say who it was, but I read up, it's Alison Krauss for the most female awarded Grammy artist of all time, which was like crazy.

But it did give me like a little flashback to like Kanye VMA, like, cause it was like really like Meg's moment. And Beyonce was like really letting Meg have the moment. Like Beyonce said two words at the end and Beyonce felt like she made the same face that she made like when Kanye interrupted Taylor Swift at the VMAs, but it ended up being fine.

I think maybe I was the only one who felt that way. And then Beyonce won another award like two seconds later thus making her they said on air the most awarded artist and then I saw the recording academy on Twitter like kind of clarified female artist oh I was seeing most awarded artist that's what they said on the TV that's why I was confused okay still amazing no it was cool to watch in real time and Megan The Thee Stallion and Beyonce's, I would encourage you to watch on YouTube. Like this, the two of them standing there, like Megan Thee Stallion, like freaking the fuck out. She's like, when I grew up, like everyone around me knows, like all I wanted to be was

Beyonce. And like, I literally became the ratchet Beyonce. And it's like been the biggest dream of my life. It was just like a great moment for women. Wow. That's amazing. Okay. I'm going to go through all the winners now.

Share your thoughts if you have any. I pretty much thought, I pretty much agreed with all the winners. amazing. Okay I'm gonna go through all the winners now. Share your thoughts if you have any. I pretty much thought I pretty much agreed with all the winners. Like okay record of the year was Billie Eilish Everything I Wanted. Except that one. I'm gonna disagree. Yeah. Um album of the year Folklore Taylor Swift. Hands down. I heard like you really weren't feeling that one. No I was I mean I just like knew it you know it's hard being like Raven-Symoné. No and I'm so happy for Taylor especially after like having watched Miss Americana and the snub for her reputation. We know how important it is to her. When she was singing in her song,

like I Come Back Stronger Than a 90s Trend, I felt like she was talking to the Academy. The Grammys, yeah. And when she made her speech, she was like, thank you so much. I'll never forget that you did this for me. Like she, certain artists don't care about the Grammys. Taylor has made it very, very clear.

Like Album of the Year, just the Grammys in general, is something she really values. Yeah. Song of the year was I Can't Breathe by her. Yes. Best new artist, Megan Thee Stallion. I agree with. But who else was nominated?

A lot of nominees. Ingrid Andres, Phoebe Bridgers, Chica, Noah Cyrus, DeSmoke, Doja Cat, Kay Trinata. I think Megan Thee Stallion, who won, is the clear winner. Now I'm remembering when I found out Noah Cyrus is nominated in the same category as Megan Thee Stallion, and I was like pretty much shook, and I'm just feeling that all over again. Yes.

Best music video, Brown Skin Girl, Beyonce, Blue Ivy, Carter, and Wizkid. Oh yes, Blue Ivy. Now I have a Grammy. Happy for her. Best pop duo group performance, Rain On Me, Lady Gaga, and Ariana Grande. 100% well-deserved. Best pop solo performance, Watermelon Sugar, Harry Styles, and Ariana Grande. 100% well deserved. Best pop solo performance, Watermelon Sugar, Harry Styles, which I think is a big deal like considering when you

remember like Harry Styles came from One Direction, a band whose music was very popular but never Grammys worthy. No and like considering all the other songs nominated too in that category, it was a hard category. It was. How was BTS's performance? That's something I have to, they sang Dynamite? They literally, the Grammys like uses BTS for ratings because it was the last thing. It was after Album of the Year. They always do that. Oh, every award show uses BTS. But my God, I was like, it was so good. And I was like dancing in my bed and Ben was like trying to go to sleep. And I was just trying to explain to him like the production value. I'm like dancing in my bed and Ben was like trying to go to sleep and I was just trying to explain to him like the production value I'm like these kids like the dancing was it was better it was the same it's like all their performances like this one wasn't any different

but it was just like 10 out of 10 dancing if it ain't broke don't fix it and it was like gorgeous you know Hollywood lights like I don't I think they were in Korea yeah they were in Seoul yeah but it was still like they were on top of they were like in a studio and then they walk up the stairs and they're like on top of the building there's like fireworks it was just Hollywood glamour like five stars they are really showmen and these days we don't get that a lot a lot of things are like stripped down they reminded me as I was watching them like they are like bruno mars like the way they have this like they make like the the the show like a priority yes they're all elements showman yeah they are the greatest showman they are the greatest showman and i was actually really surprised that dynamite did not win anything like it really was like a song of the year i agree and

i think it's really hurtful i agree and the And the BTS ARMY was fucking twisted up on Twitter. I know because they were so excited that they were nominated. And it was a big deal for them to be nominated. But I do think that Dynamite like is one of those songs that cured the year. It reminds me of like, and I keep, I don't know why I keep comparing them to Bruno Mars, but it was like a 24 karat magic. Like it was just song that just like snuck up on us. That was like, damn, this song is so fucking good.

Yes, agreed. Best pop vocal album went to Future N future nostalgia by Dua Lipa and I feel as though she deserved that in the pop category yes I agree and also feels like for a lot of these people who were nominated in many categories won at least yes I don't know anyone that didn't win anything except Haim I think and did Justin Bieber win anything no but he also like denounced the Grammys on his story remember that's true and also they they announced so many before the show and oh he won with Dan and Shay for 10,000 hours that I feel as though is deserved I love that song um yeah and then all of the different genres rock country etc um yeah the country um category I thought was

really really interesting Miranda Lambert won and I do do feel, I've made, like, such a 180 on Miranda Lambert. Like, I respect the fuck out of her. And her album, Wild Card, is so good. And I thought she deserved to win, even though I was really gunning for Ashley McBride because I love her so much. But, you know, it was all women in the category. I know. And you know what's so interesting? Sorry to cut you off again.

I feel like in country award shows like the men are always winning and it's like the Jason Aldean Luke Bryan like they're kind of like they all do the same thing I don't include Luke Combs in that category I think he's a really unique artist but like the big like Jason Aldean Luke Bryan Blake Shelton like they all have the same three songs and they like share them and it's like not real music and I think they are always like winning whereas like the women in country music like are putting out like heartfelt lyrical masterpieces and I'm so glad the Grammys respected the women in country because in my opinion they release better music yeah I think I think that's a really good point I think Miranda

Lambert I'm so happy that she won I think her album was great my personal country album of the year though was Ingrid Andress In Ingrid Andress. Me too. But I, no, actually, I stand by Ashley McBride. I know I'm new on the Ashley McBride ship, but we are fully built, ready to go. Love to see it. Love to see a new ship. Speaking of ships, let's segue into our next story. A little relationship news.

Very confusing. On Friday, Page Six announced that J-Lo and A-Rod broke off the engagement. And then everyone else said, said no they didn't and now JLo and A-Rod are saying no we didn't they're saying we're working through stuff yeah they say they love each other and want to work on their relationship A-Rod told TMZ that he is not single and JLo put out a TikTok video that was so sickening did you see the video no, she put out a TikTok that, it's all about like her being fabulous, like montage sort of. Okay. And it references the split.

She posts all the headlines and then was like, said something. What did she say? Something like. Oh, wow, good for her. I live for a TikTok clarification. Yeah, she. Let me just watch it.

She debunked. Good for her. I actually just recently followed JLo on TikTok. So I'm actually surprised i didn't see her content yeah it's a really good tiktok video and she's also letting us know and i don't know i mean when we heard the news that they were splitsville okay here we go oh she's gonna watch the video this yes oh wow she's such a queen okay I don't want to get demonetized but love that for her yes so they're still together apparently um they obviously have problems like we've all been

alive and well in the last six months like there's a lot going on there there is a lot going on so just Madison LaCroix like taking down like a Hollywood couple I was like ready for it to be over for them and I because I just think he's so unworthy. I agree. But now they're still together so never mind. I'm like upset by this whole thing because I think of them as a couple I was so invested in. Like I thought that these two people like the fact that they haven't been married for 50 years like makes no sense. Like they're perfect for each other in a million different ways. And then over the last year I've just heard all these things about him, like, fucking around on J-Lo.

Obviously, the Madison LeCroy one is very public. But there's a couple headlines, like, random playmates, different models, coming out saying they FaceTime, they, like, have phone sex with him. And I'm like, you're really going to disrespect J-Lo like that? Like, who the fuck do you think you are? Like, are you kidding? I'm just... It's disgusting.

It is. She's everything of the sort. And I feel like the events of the last few months have made me realize disgusting. It is. She's everything of the sort. And I feel like the events of the last few months have made me realize, like, he's kind of nothing of the sort. No, and I went from, like, idolizing him as, like, an athlete, a businessman, and as a businessman beau, to literally, like, thinking so low of him. Like, you're going to fuck around on J-Lo? Like, who on God's green diddly-dally earth do you think you are? Yeah.

To fuck around on JLo that's just not it no it's not it and so who knows how what happens from here but they're together so we'll respect it I do feel like it's probably like the beginning of the end yeah but I don't know I feel like why would she renege like why she's like because once it's over like once it's over, like, everyone's going to take her side, obviously. It takes time. Maybe they're not, like, officially over right now. But, like, this is the first break, and I think it's just the beginning. They could possibly still be together.

But, like, an independent, fierce woman like J.Lo, like, she just can't get over things like this. Like, it's unforgivable. I agree. So, there's nothing to say anymore. The story was they broke up and then the story was that they didn't yeah this is giving me like um Lily Reinhart Kohl's Browse vibes like everyone reported that they broke up and then they literally tweeted like no we didn't but then eventually they did see yeah okay our next story back to award shows the Oscar nominations

are here they were announced by Nick Jonas and Priyanka Chopra see this is actually like what makes me roll my eyes like the Oscars yes so let's just go through the big categories. If you feel strongly or want to make a prediction let me know. I've only seen I think for movies that are Oscar worthy I've only seen Promising Young Woman which was excellent. Oh was it? Yeah. Okay well it's nominated for Best Picture along with Nomadland which from what I've heard is like a best picture. Okay. The Trial of the Chicago 7 also heard really good things. Minari, Sound of Metal, The Father, Judas and the Black Messiah, and Mank. I heard Judas and the Black Messiah

was fire. Actress in a leading role. Frances McDormand, Nomadland, Vanessa Kirby, Pieces of a Woman, Carrie Mulligan, Promising Young Woman. Oh I didn't realize that she was in it and you were still able to watch it. Okay so did we talk about it on the podcast? I don't think so. I think we did. I think actually you might be having amnesia because I said she like looked so weird in the movie. Like, because what do you think when you think of Carey Mulligan, what do you think of? Pixie cut. Daisy. Great Gatsby. Yeah. She looked like Britney Spears, like the whole movie. She had like long blonde hair and like, like just couldn't see her as as any. Like it was so confusing to watch her.

But she was very good. Okay that's good to know. Viola Davis, Marini's Black Bottom. And Andra Day, The United States vs. Billie Holiday. Andra Day is a shoo-in in my opinion. And then actor in a leading role. Chadwick Boseman is nominated for Marini's Black Bottom. Anthony Hopkins, The Father.

Riz Ahmed, Sound of Metal. Gary Oldman, Mank. Anthony Hopkins, The Father. Riz Ahmed, Sound of Metal. Gary Oldman, Mank. Steve Yoon, Minari. That'd be really beautiful if Chadwick Boseman won. Yeah, that would be really beautiful. A posthumous Oscar. Award, yeah. Actress in a supporting role.

Are you still interested? Oh, I'm not paying attention anymore. I know. I just haven't heard of any of these movies. You guys, I really haven't seen or even... Some of them I heard of, didn't see. Some of them I have haven't heard of any of these movies. You guys, I really haven't seen or even, some of them I heard of, didn't see. Yeah.

Some of them, I have not heard of. No, me too. So, I think. And that's crazy because like, we literally talk about pop culture full time.

That's just what I'm saying. Like, these movies, like, movies used to be, like, do you remember the year when like, there used to be a time when like, you would see,

maybe it's because theaters like, aren't open this year, but where you would see like, five out of five, five like you saw Slumdog Millionaire like you saw all of that but also it's like theaters weren't open this year but we all spent the whole year watching movies and television from home so I don't know no I guess like Trolls didn't get nominated I guess it was the movie of the year I guess it didn't I guess the holiday didn't get I guess the King of Staten Island didn't either which is shocking um the only other category that i am always interested is the original song oh yeah me too um husavik from eurovision song contest oh actually i do

believe i came on here and like ripped to shreds that movie eurovision you did it was a piece of shit but the music was fucking amazing okay like so I was shocked okay that's that's positive yeah also Fight For You from Judas and the Black Messiah Low Sea from The Life Ahead Speak Now by Taylor Swift from One Night in Miami and Hear My Voice from The Trial of the Chicago 7 you. I feel like this is the first time in a while that an animated movie song didn't get nominated. I'm gonna listen to the music

because I actually enjoy that. Yeah, that's always one of my personal favorite categories. Did you say Cynthia Erivo is one of the singers? Oh, I didn't say who sings the songs. Are you sure? I thought you just said that.

I said the movie it's from. Oh, well, if Cynthia Erivo was going to perform, like, then I'll tune in to the Oscars because she's something to see. Yes. Well, when are the Oscars?

Who cares? I guess I would be, on the iPad, I would know. April 25th. I would just like to know if, like, our listeners, like, do you also hate the Oscars? You know what?

That is such a great question. Like, do you want us to be watching these things? Is it important to you? Because, like, I'll do it for you, but just, for you but just like I would literally rather die than watch the Oscars this year I agree like I will do it if everyone says please we need your recap like I will do it that's what we do but if you guys feel as we do and like we just don't care about these things right now let us know yeah I've just never really like I think it just over the last few years I've

just become like over movies I know that sounds crazy I'm just so much more of like a tv show girly now because it used to be like movies were so much better than tv now it's like tv is where you want to be and also like to be in a show or a limited series on a streaming service like is extremely prestigious yeah it used to be like no one wanted to be on tv right it was like the small screen yeah big screen but when everything is on your tv at home it's all the same and also like the small screen versus the big screen. But when everything is on your TV at home, it's all the same. And also like the doing a series like I think of like Queen's Gambit. Like that is a movie that was done episodically. Right. I wouldn't be surprised if like in a few years like Leonardo DiCaprio does like a short series, miniseries on Netflix. Like it's prestigious now. And it's the Golden Globes for me like I don't live for, but they are to me a little bit more my speed because they include television yeah I agree I just think that the way it's categorized is starting to become outdated considering everything that we watch is like even if it's like a series that has three

parts all that's a show that's not a movie but like we're not we're not in these boxes anymore no and honestly like The Queen's Gambit is the perfect example because for me, that was like the most amazing thing that came out this year and it won't win an Oscar because it's not a movie. Right.

Technically. But it's Oscar worthy. I completely agree. Yeah. They should really change their rules. I think that one day they're going to

because times are changing. Times are changing. I agree. Okay, speaking of change, Chris Harrison. Speaking of change, is it the Chris Harrison story that happens to be brought to you by Legacy Box? Yes.

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Bristow and Tayshia Adams will co-host the next season of The Bachelorette. Quote, Chris Harrison will not be hosting the next season of The Bachelorette. We support Chris and the work that he is committed to doing. In his absence, former Bachelorettes Tayshia Adams and Caitlin Bristow will support the new Bachelorette through next season. I mean, that's crazy. I think that when he had stepped back, I thought it was just like, you know, like, just to like calm people down and thought maybe it would blow over by the

time the new season was ready to start. But people are really, really fucking unhappy with Chris Harrison. And I think that people are going to be very pleased with Tayshia and Chris, I mean, and Caitlyn. And I think that's actually like such an honor for Tayshia and Chris, I mean, and Caitlyn. And I think that's actually, like, such an honor for Tayshia and Caitlyn. Yes, definitely. It's still unclear, like, what's going to happen after this season of The Bachelorette. Like, for next Bachelor, it's possible that Chris comes back? Or do they bring in two former Bachelor contestants who are meant to support the male lead? Or maybe, like, Caitlyn and Tayshia are so universally beloved,

like, this becomes, they're the new Chris Harrisons. Right. Chris Harrison so maybe it's a trial but also and I'm so excited for it to be Caitlin and Tisha I think both of them are perfect choices but like the fact that it it's like it takes two women to do the job that it ain't that hard no but like why couldn't I mean I'm happy to have both of them but like why does it take two of them yeah if Chris Harrison could do it alone I know and also like I mean I think I can at least speak for Caitlyn like Caitlyn is a professional host like she hosts her own podcast it's super successful I don't think there's a doubt that she could do the job or Tayshia right but when I first read this statement it didn't they maybe it's just the way that they framed it they'll be there to support the lead like they'll have like

girl chats and stuff and like off camera not necessarily like be hosting like are they gonna come in and say this is the final rose like we fucking know it's the final rose so maybe well that's true like Chris Harrison's job like like the show could go on without it it's like thank you Chris Harrison we know how to count yeah um and actually that's a good point kind of how like Jojo did when she filled in for Chris Harrison yes she was there like for emotional support but she didn't pop in and be like, this is the final rose because like it's literally self-explanatory. Right.

So I think maybe that will just go regardless. But I think it will, I don't know if they're stepping into Chris Harrison shoes exactly or they're going to change up the format of like what it means to be the host of the show. Like the role will be different. Which I'm just like here for in general. Yeah.

I mean, I'm intrigued because I love Caitlyn and I love Tayshia, but I do just like here for in general. Yeah. I mean, I'm intrigued because I love Caitlyn and I love Tayshia. But I do feel like, and I know I sound like a broken record. I've said this a hundred times. I do believe after tonight, like I'm done. Yeah. It's been a journey. Tonight is the final rose, you guys.

And it's the finale and after the final rose tonight, right? Yes. But I'll tell you who is happy about this. The truckers for Tayshia. Yeah. They are going ham, you guys. They've lost lost their minds they're so excited and I'm excited for them me too um I'm just like I feel maybe I'm curious if other people feel this way like I'm so fatigued by the bachelor franchise just like they've really put us through a lot this year

I'm like I'm just kind of over it I'm really curious to see how this season ends up now I feel like we finally caught up with real life like watching these dates that I know were filmed six months ago when so much has happened in the last month so I'm looking forward to tonight seeing like I do believe Rachel wins I do believe maybe they are still together I don't know how they could be after all this but I'm curious to get an update and to actually hear from Rachel Kirkconnell but after that like I think I'm just done like it's so exhausting I think a lot of people feel that way so that's okay and we'll see do they announce a new Bachelorette tonight in past they have because usually the Bachelorette starts filming in like four days from after the final rose I heard a spoiler so I heard a spoiler too and based on the spoiler that I heard

um you won't be watching I remember that okay fifth and final story just a little streaming news Disney Plus is popping off and it is forecast to steal Netflix's crown as the world's biggest streaming firm wow by 2024 so that's just a little caveat okay and also like who knows what could happen like so much can happen like we literally who thought the pandemic was gonna happen you know right Netflix is forecast to lose its crown as the world's biggest video streaming provider within three years. Maybe that's why Netflix is now like cracking down, we reported last week, on shared family accounts.

Like you have to start using your own account. Yes. Amid explosive growth at Disney after the launch of its rival on-demand service only 16 months ago. So we have spent a lot of time here at the Morning Toast chronicling the streaming wars. The success is Disney Plus. The failure is quibi yes and i think that this is an interesting update though like a lot needs to happen in the next three years for it to take hold but it's nice to know that disney plus is doing so well yeah i mean disney plus is actually killing it and when

you think disney plus i'm like oh yeah it's great for kids and it's great for like adults who want to watch old episodes of hannah montana but it's actually really kind of nailing it in the music space like with Black is King um Long Pond Studios like they're kind of like hitting a bunch of other categories like I didn't see them succeeding in and stealing like Netflix did a few music specials like Ben Platt or whatever but they're kind of like killing it in places I didn't think they would kill it in like obviously like cartoons interesting also I think that like the Mandalorian I know we don't watch that like Baby Yoda is so massive for them um and they had a really like a bunch of really good premieres Baby Yoda is so cute camper he's camper I know I kind of want to like kiss him no everybody loves Baby Yoda and I've met I don't think I'll ever watch the Mandalorian I mean no I know that I won't definitively something would have to go

very wrong for me to start watching the Mandalorian but I think baby Yoda is someone we can all get behind I actually think he's like a camper at heart and he's so fucking cute he's so cute he needs to be counseled I don't know anything about like what is a Mandalorian what is the TV show about all I know is like baby Yoda is so cute so cute um here's what i think i know and it makes sense based on the fact that yoda is a baby i actually don't want to know it's a prequel to star wars so like yoda in the star wars is i think he's fully grown yeah in the prequel he's a baby oh that's cute yeah i think that's the concept okay well happy for disney plus keep it. Maybe we can get, like, an Evermore Long Pond Studios, I don't know, just an idea, throwing it out there.

Mm-hmm, maybe we could. Like, they actually deadass stole Taylor Swift and Beyonce from Netflix. Homecoming was on Netflix, Miss Americana was on Netflix, Reputation was on Netflix. Oh, that's so true. I guess they're just paying big bucks to huge stars, and it's working. That's so true, and I just wanted to get your thoughts on one more thing, because Taylor announced that Loverfest is canceled, it's not happening um I think that makes a lot of sense

considering she's put out like two whole new albums since and Lover like we're done like Lover who yeah we're like done with her I just assumed it would be canceled like this is not news to me right no that wasn't my next question which was like so what do you think she's gonna do next considering she had this like plan for a festival I feel like Evermore and Folkmore like could be a very like fall harvest festival yeah no I did I definitely think we're gonna we're gonna skip over the lover era and do like a folklore Evermore I don't know if it'll be like another festival or a concert a tour I think part of the reason why she was doing lover fest was back then which was literally like two years ago now um she was going through a lot and like could not she was fatigued she was fatigued and also I think her mom's health was um her I think her cancer had made a return

so I think she didn't want to spend time away from her mom but you know that was a while ago like maybe things have changed maybe she can go on tour now yeah that's a good point so I would maybe she's looking forward to tour life I would live for like an ever more folklore, like somber ass, like Bon Iver type, like cry fest. Yeah, I think that's what you might be getting. But I also like, she does stadiums and I don't know, I feel like that like concrete isn't the vibe and I would like a grassy knoll. I know, but the thing is,

say what you want about Taylor Swift, whether you like love her or hate her, she knows how to put on a show. A showman. She is like a definition of like, her concerts are experiences. So I think evenman she is like a definition of like her concerts are experiences so I think even if it is like a more low-key vibe she will make it a sensation she'll cultivate the vibe but that's like how I felt when I saw Ed Sheeran like a man and his guitar

at MetLife Stadium like give me a light or something like there was nothing it was so boring and I like Ed Sheeran but his concert was not it yeah I think that she'll definitely get creative considering the vibe of folklore and Evermore. She'll cultivate that vibe. Yeah. It'll be good. I agree. And I'm like, I love her, like, that little trio of Aaron Destner.

He's, like, so cute. I don't know if he's ever won a Grammy before, but he was just, like, so excited. And, like, Jack Antonoff, I feel like, has won a million Grammys because he produces so many popular albums. And he didn't even say anything. But Taylor let Aaron Destner speak first. And he was just, like, so excited. Like, thinking his brother and shit. Like, I was living for it. Oh's really cute yeah okay well those are the

past five stories I feel as though you needed to know them um I did not watch Real Housewives of Atlanta because I was watching the Grammys but you did watch I did watch the last two episodes we haven't recapped yet it's the fallout from The Bachelorette you see um the story make its way to page six and in the blogs and everyone speculating on I mean there's not even anything to speculate like it was Kenya 100% though she hasn't like admitted it but all the girls agree yeah it's not like a huge point it's just like it was Kenya fact you know and it's like we're not even gonna debate it um and I feel like for Kenya she was trying to you know get porsche to engage in this conversation and porsche's porsche's strategy at the end of the party and going forward has just been to like

not even respond to kenya it's not her business that didn't work for kenya so kenya took it to the press to a place so that porsche had to address it at some point she still hasn't really there was a it's nobody's fucking business the The cameras were off. She's a single woman. Leave her alone. I so agree. Kenya just is so wrong on this. And then the episode that aired last night was 10, 10, 20. Cynthia and Mike's wedding, which was so stunning.

It was really crazy to watch her wedding. Like given like I just kept thinking back to her wedding to Peter, which we watched when it aired. And the vibe is just completely different and like the way that her sister is just like so here like they're in this together versus like member at they stole the license stole the license so it's just like it's beshared the two of them and it was so nice to watch and see and she talks about like getting flack for having a wedding during a pandemic. I guess Wendy Williams had really like gone in on her at the time. And it was like having, watching it then, it's like given what we know everything about this year, it's like the wedding just felt even more special

that it was like a celebration of such love and like people coming together. Yeah. I'm not the type of person who's going to shame. Like if someone invites you to a wedding, I'm not going to disagree with them. If I feel safe, I'll go. If I don't feel safe, safe I won't go everyone it's we live in a free country do what you want um but I do think it's interesting how like at the and I was surprised because I know Kelly Dodd is problematic as fuck but I was actually surprised she didn't have like a full

out wedding like with like 300 people she had a 20 person wedding and like they were giving her shit at the reunion so I'm like I'm a fear for Cynthia like what they're gonna shit at the reunion. So I'm like I fear for Cynthia like what they're going to say at the reunion. And there was like a hurricane coming through. So they had to move the ceremony indoors. So it would have been an outdoor wedding. But it was an indoor wedding. There was a lot of people like I'm sure it will come up at the reunion. But I was just really happy for Cynthia.

I know. And she just had like such a long journey. And like I do feel like Chihil is forever. Forever. So I love him. It was so it was such a beautiful thing to behold and there weren't cameras in they didn't go into the wedding it was people's like home uh iPhone iPhones and also Cynthia's like photographer videographer footage which was also kind of nice because I do feel like sometimes when the cameras are there they drag everything

out but so instead it was just like these are the need to know moments yeah well I actually felt it felt more intimate I actually have been to a televised wedding Brittany and Jax and I have to say that there was like a full camera crew there and I feel like they did a really good job of like they looked like just regular videographers for weddings they didn't drag stuff out like everyone was just like I actually had a lot of respect for like how much they didn't torture Jax and Brittany to like get certain footage yeah no but I'm saying like from the viewer perspective, when they have all this footage, they air all of it. Sometimes it's even a special and it's like there's not that much that I care to see. I agree. I just want to see the major moments.

And so we were able to be there without being bored by it. And so we saw the very special moments and I loved being able to watch it. That's nice. It was really nice. loved being able to watch it so um that's nice it was really nice but the night before the wedding um they had um a party for the nieces because I guess uh Candy and Kenya are bridesmaids so they were with um Cynthia the night before so the aunties were away the aunties were away the nieces will play and it was just like crazy um it actually was such a fun looking night but Toya's just so wishy-washy wishy-washy you have

to watch this scene it's like what are you trying to say like it's like she just says a million things in whichever one like someone's gonna agree like that's the road she would go down but what does she actually stand for i don't know right because when she was like finally seeing like who kenya really was in south carolina i thought she had finally like turned to the good side and then she goes goes to Kenya's photo shoot and is like apologizing. I'm like, no, no, you were right. Yeah, I agree.

That's frustrating. Yeah, and then she like starts to air Kenya's, some of her stuff with her husband. And even the other girls, like Portia's like, that's not your place to be telling us this. No. So it's like, she has no idea. She's all extreme one way and extreme the other.

And it's just, it's extreme. It's too extreme. That's so extreme. So it was really good. We it's just, it's extreme. It's too extreme. That's so extreme. So it was really good. We have a lot of TV to catch up on this week. Last week I did not watch anything. So I'll be watching like everything in threes pretty much. Right.

Except for The Bachelor, which is on tonight. Yes. So we were, we are back on with the TV recaps this week. I apologize for not watching. I just like couldn't do it. I understand. I couldn't either. I was just in another place

reading, watching period pieces and it was lovely. I'm so happy for you. Yeah, but now I'm back on the grind. Sometimes self-care looks like hard work, guys. Yes. So if you're listening as a podcast, stay tuned for an amazing interview

with Jasmine Sanders from the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition. And that's it. That's all she wrote. And she actually wrote a lot today so we will see you tomorrow bye jackie and i are so excited for our next guest because not only is she also a bikini model which is just like a crazy coincidence jackie and i have been obsessed with our next guest for so long and we are so excited to finally welcome the golden Barbie, Jasmine Sanders, here on The Toast.

Hello. Hey. I am so happy to be here, guys. I don't think you understand. I literally have been listening to your podcast. And I was like, if I can get on here, it would be really fun. You guys seem like a lot of fun, like in person. So once this is opened up, we need to hang out.

For sure. I don't know if you remember, we actually partied. I don't know if we would, I could say we partied together, but we partied adjacent to you at Coachella at the Revolve Merv Griffin estate. Right, Jackie? Oh my God. Yes, Claudia. I think you can say it was together because I was like bouncing around the couches in these parties. Like I'm all over the place. Wow. I would have forgotten that cloud. Your memory is so good. And then also there was like an after party. We did party adjacent to you and it was a highlight. I love hearing it, but we have to party together now. Like you guys, we got to go out. We got to play.

We do. Well on Friday, it was just announced that New York city clubs are opening up at 33% capacity. And that has just been a huge win for us. And we're really excited. For us. I will be very honest. I'm terrified. I'm like, I'm still very nervous when I step outside.

So I'm like, I want no parts of larger parties. I will sacrifice it all to get into a club, but that's just risk it all. You have more to lose because you are now again, last year you were on the cover. Now you're back in sports illustrated. And I have to imagine that even though you're like, you know, an OG now, it's still like super exciting when you get the call and you do the photo shoot. Like it still feels like it's new. It definitely still feels like it's new. I wouldn't, I'm like, I don't consider myself an OG yet. Like Kate Bach is an OG. She's done like what, eight, nine years now. So I'm like, that's somebody that I consider a vet. Um, I feel like I'm still earning my spot.

So every time that I come to shoot, I'm just like, I give my all and I will always give my all because it's one you just have such a great community of so many women. There are a couple of men on set that help take care of us and stuff as well. But you have so many empowering women around you. Like, all you do is like, sit on set and like ooze confidence. So it's like really just giving your all that day that you get to shoot and showing everybody why you've been picked. And I don't know, I've been doing it since I was 13. And this is something that's always been a goal of mine. So when I go, I'm like, I'm living out my dream. I'm living out my dream. So every year it's, it just gets better and better. Well, what MJ Day had to say about you, I thought was like so nice. And I just want to read it really quickly. She said, Jasmine is one of the most selfless individuals who has fought really hard to get where she is today and doesn't forget or neglect anyone that has helped her along

the way. She shows up on set, ready to work hard, nails every shot and still possesses a true humbleness that That is such a rarity. And that is just like a rave review. I love her. I'm like, don't make me cry on here. No, but I, she, one, she's a mom to all of us and she takes such good care of all of us, but they create such a space where you feel safe to be yourself. You don't feel like anyone is going to bash you for the way you look, your size, anything, your hair, your makeup, what, whatever your interests are, everybody has their own place. And it's like, it's one big sorority.

We all have like, we all go through things. So it's like, just trying to remind yourself that we're all normal. And this is it's kind of my space of really knowing like, I'm able to be myself, I'm able to rock out. And I have so many supportive women around me. So why not be me? Yeah, I feel she really allows that like, MJ is the best, the best. I love her to death. That's so awesome. What do you think it is about Sports Illustrated, like from especially what we see as a consumer, like it's so inclusive and you can, the confidence like radiates from all of the people being featured. So what do you think that Sports Illustrated does to cultivate that environment that you think that other brands or

labels could take from that and incorporate in their space as well? Well, one, they just embrace it. Like they embrace everything about us. They love hearing something that's new and different. Like they know that I like work on my projects and stuff around the house. Like I literally like spray painted my own fireplace and like did everything. Like I build things all the time and then like, I do have a boyfriend. So if I need him to do something, I will. But like, I'm very hands on. I'm very much a tomboy. And I'm very independent. And it's just like, I tried to touch so many different things. But this is one client that allows you to do that allows you to express how you're feeling, whether it's, hey, I want to like dance

around on a table and like live my best life, or I want to go to school and I want to tackle this and I want to become a lawyer or a teacher, like there, or even just giving us so much access to charities. Like that was the biggest part for me because a lot of companies don't like partner with charities as much as they do or don't allow you a hands-on opportunity and one of the first things I got to do was go and play soccer with some kids from best buddies and I was just like that was the biggest highlight to do that even before being in the pages of the magazine. So they, they really give you an opportunity to find where your lane is and embrace it and shine. And it doesn't matter if like, like I asked MJ, I was like, look, I'm in love now. I might get pregnant one of these days, which I'm not, but I'm just like,

if it happens, it happens. And she's one of those clients that's just like, girl, okay. And you're going to shoot if you want to shoot. Like if you feel good about yourself, then come and shoot. And it's just like those things now that I'm like, I'm almost 30, I'm getting to a space where it's like, okay, now you have to think of the balance between real life and your job. And, um, I don't know, she just allows so much room for you to be you and whatever part that may be. And I love it. That's so cool. I'm sorry, girls. I ramble. So I'm going to talk to you. Um, so you, this year was obviously different for a multitude of reasons, but you shot in Tampa this year with youuzai and we watched model squad. Like we know how legit Yuzai is. So can you tell us like how this was different from past years? Cause I'm sure there was a lot of things you had to do differently.

Well, first off, I have to say, I love Yuzai. He's amazing to shoot with because he brings something out of you that it's just like, like, you just feel like a lion. Like, I don't, I don't know what it is. You feel dangerous. You feel strong. You feel confident. You feel sexy. You feel submissive. Like there's all kinds of different feelings that you're able to give out. And it's just because he's such a good photographer. I'm terrified of seeing him. Like when it comes to TV, I'm like, I don't know if I could have done that, but I'm very on set with me. Very iconic.

Um, but oh my God, uh, wind back. He said, what was the difference? The difference between our last two shoots would just have to be the second that I landed when I got tested here in LA before I left. Then I landed in Tampa and got tested before I even saw anybody. And I was just like, oh my God, I want to hug the girl. Like I haven't seen everybody in so long. And they're like, no, no, no, there's no contact. Like, we're all going to stay. I'm like, thanks. This is, it's bittersweet. It was very bittersweet because you do feel like a family.

And I do feel kind of bad for the girls that are rookies this year, having to experience it that way, because it's a different, it's just a weird distance that I know no one in sports illustrated wants to give. But it's just everyone protecting themselves and being safe, but it's just, everything's and being safe. But it's just everything's a lot smaller. But the vibe, the energy is still the same, where everybody's just a little more distant and still screaming for you and giving you energy and hyping you up on set. And then like, I don't like I feel like I had better interviews, honestly, this year, because I was able to,

I was able to learn about myself this year over everything that's gone on and really give them more of a vulnerable, open interview. And they also created such a safe and comforting space for us to like, just be open and be fun. And we got to do different things. It wasn't as, as a group. I mean, let me explain. So when we go there, we don't, I'm like, sorry guys, when we go there where it's usually you don't see another model. They, they book the girls like every other day. So that way we don't overlap. So when I got out there, I was like, well, at least I get to hang out with like some of the girls from the crew. Like we're all friends and family. Like I wish

I could see them and hang out. But it's like you have to go in your room and just tuck away. And then we also shot at Hard Rock. So it was like being in the casino area and kind of seeing that people were still out and about with their mask on, but like sitting with the glass. It was like, I'll stay in my room. I would rather just be in my room on FaceTime with my boyfriend, get some good sleep, get a good bath in before and relax. Yeah. Well, not to spoil the interview that you gave, but what do you think

is like one of the biggest things that you've learned about yourself this year? Um, just being able to be more vulnerable and open is okay. Letting people know that I'm not okay is okay. Um, I always felt like I had to be the strong one and like, um, kind of just make sure all of my friends were good, which I still, I was very heavy on doing that. And still I'm very heavy on checking on everyone. Um, but I had to allow myself to open up when people checked on me instead of just holding everything in and feeling like it wasn't okay to be going through the emotions and the roller coaster when there's so much going on in the world from Black Lives Matter to all the marches

around the world to COVID, like, and jobs and people losing their homes and their lives. There was just so much up and down. And then it started to get closer and closer to family. And I was just like, this is real and it's scary. And I think it was just a time for me to be like, you know what? Like, let me lean on people. It's okay to lean on somebody. Yeah. And I'm a cancer.

So I'm like, I'm a cry baby. Me too. Oh my God. Me too. July 10th. June 22nd. We're going to celebrate. I see it. The world's going to open up. You're right on the cusp. Yeah. It's, it gets interesting. I have a couple of personalities. Oh, me too. And I'm like the, I'm a stereotypical cancer. Like I dish it. I'm so like mean to everyone. And then when someone's mean to me, like I want to

cry, like never leave my house. Like how could you, I was just being real. I wasn't like bullying you. I'm just playing around, but you're taking this to another level. One thing I want to talk about that I feel like Jackie and I have followed you for so long. And it's because your username is so iconic. Like you literally are the golden Barbie. So can you tell me how you came up with that? I will be honest. I'm not the golden Barbie without my glam team. Because it took a lot to feel and look like a Barbie.

Like I'm literally in sweatpants and Uggs right now. And nothing matches in my outfit. It's great. But I don't know. Me and my sister were playing around like it was back in my space days like I used to my email address used to be like life-size Barbie doll like I was obsessed with the Disney movie um I was just like I had a tattoo on the bottom of my foot that's numbers um I don't think anybody really even knows it's there but it's just like i saw it on the movie and i was like this is so cool i have to like one day find a meaningful number for me and like get

get numbers on the bottom of my foot like a barbie doll oh my god i didn't realize yes i didn't realize you were talking about the most iconic movie all time it's great no matter where she goes dress her up dancing i was like mom yes to her toes come on it's amazing it was everything it was my favorite movie i watched it non-stop um but yeah i don't know i me and my sister were playing around trying to find a name for myspace and twitter and um she was like well i don't know, people call you Goldilocks, they call you a Barbie doll. Let's like figure it out. And we put golden Barbie together. So I give my sister credit, she can have it. She can have all the credit for that. But it's stuck. And now I'm like, can I still be a golden Barbie at like 40? Like, are you guys going to allow it? Okay. Cause

I, I feel like I want to rock with it. Barbie is ageless. Okay. Perfect. I love it. Um, I have one last question for you. Cause I know like for me, like when I'm always getting ready for my like bikini shoots, um, of course you have like a regimen that you keep up with, but in COVID, like the gyms being closed, you did that all from home okay so covid i did build a gym in my house um i partnered up with dog calm and i'm gonna like launch and show well not launch because no one's really coming over in my house to use my gym but like it's i have told my friends that it's like all the gyms have closed down. So my three friends that stay in my circle all the time, I'm like, if you want to stop by, come in the garage, get your workout on.

Like we have Lysol wipes, everything in there, just clean down the area, put your towels in the basket and leave like you would a normal gym. You're like renting the space, but nobody's paying. And then membership. No, I don't think so. Do you know how it could be a for profit garage? That was one of my biggest like expenses, like being like, Oh my God, I'm paying for a gym membership, but then I'm traveling and I'm not even using it. I was like, screw this. I'm I need an apartment that has one or I need my, uh, my house. And when I'm in Miami, it's all Anthony. It's like, he, my boyfriend is so insane with his workouts. They're so good, but it's like, I don't know

what he does, but it's manipulated my body into this nice curvy situation that I'm, I'm dealing with and I'm loving and I'm embracing it. And I was like everybody else. I was drinking. I was having like fun with my friends on zoom calls and like doing like lunches over zoom and stuff. And then I was like, okay, you're starting to gain some weight. Like, yeah, it's not, it's comfortable, but like whatever. And I was like, I don't feel healthy though. Like, I feel like I'm like sluggish. I get really lazy in the house. So I was like, look, just like, I need to, I need to start working out with him. We went to the gym sometimes because they do have things a little more open in Miami. I'm still wearing our mask and everything, but for the most part, I try to work out outdoors. So

when I'm in Miami, my workout partners, Isabella Gretman, we are like on the tennis courts. She plays tennis. I'm horrible. Just not coordinated enough at all. It's really hard. It's extremely hard. Like I can't do it. I'm just, I know what I'm good at. But he literally has us running laps around, around the tennis court. He has us jumping rope for 10 minutes for our warm up. And I'm just like, okay, my heart rate's going, what are we doing next? But he knows how to bust your butt in 45 minutes. Like he's like, look, you don't need to be in the gym for two hours, which is a really big thing for me, because I can't give two hours of my time to like, literally just be in the gym for two hours, which is a really big thing for me because I, I can't give two hours of my time to like literally just be in the gym, like messing around. So I'm like, let me do

something serious. Exactly. Let me like, if you're going to torture me, let's do this for 45, make it happen. I'm sweating my butt off. I see my body changing and it's just really continuing to do it. I still eat whatever I want, but like right now I have a green juice with me. Like I'm always like either green juice in the morning and then kind of having my desserts at night or whatever. Like I, I let my body do what it wants. And especially this year, I was like, embrace it. It truly looks like it's working because it landed you back in sports illustrated congrats. Like we live for you. We support like the golden Barbie experience. It's a journey and we're just along for the ride.

And happy to be, I am so happy to be on here. I cannot thank you guys enough for having me. And thank you. Sports illustrated again. Another year. Illustrated. I'm so excited for my shoot, everyone. It comes out next week.

So just stay tuned for that. Send it to me so I can post it. It's actually like me and Jasmine didn't want to spoil the surprise, which was cute, but it's actually like a duo, me and Jasmine, like in the ocean. It's sickening. I mean, I'm going and Jasmine, like in the ocean. It's sickening.

I mean, I guess we can. It's on embargo. It's on embargo. It's not. It's okay. Fine. Well, congratulations. Everyone follow Jasmine on Instagram.

She has the most sickening Instagram at golden Barbie. We love to see it. Thank you so much for being here. And thanks everyone for listening. Thank you.