The Toast - S4 Ep47: Goodbye Bachelor: Tuesday, March 16th, 2021

Episode Date: March 16, 2021

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Tuesday, the Bachelor is over. Yes, very, very exciting. I can't believe it's only Tuesday. Last month's Bachelor finale, three hours. Like, when I was done, it was like 11.15. I was just like, whoa. Yeah, there was a lot to unpack. Of course, that's what we're here to do today. In addition to just brightening the lives of millions of Americans and a few Canadians. And also keeping you abreast of all the other news that you need to know which spoiler alert not much. Jackie I can't stress how important it is to constantly be kept abreast. No it's so important like you think it might not be but it is. Speaking of

breast I actually have a surprise for you today i have a surprise for you okay you go first since you brought it up so this is really for people on the youtube because it's more of like a visual present um okay ready are you gonna show me your sexy shirt under my jacket shirt oh my god can we get a close-up wait turn your shoulder give it serve it to the to the camera oh my god I forgot about sexy shirt and how much it meant to me during the queue that I experienced and I know you were going to be feeling all rdh that it's only Tuesday so I thought I would brighten your day a little bit that's something that's like it's always nice to get a little sexiness on a Tuesday because at least Wednesday we have hump day but like Tuesday what's

Tuesday deserves love too Tuesday deserves love too in the form of a cold shoulder but now my surprise for you I brought your gift oh right I got Claudia a gift while I was away last weekend I was just in the gift shop and I saw something that I was just like this is Claudia and a gift it's nothing crazy but I saw it and I thought of you is it a sweatshirt no it's I wrapped it in a sweatshirt saw it and I thought of you is it a sweatshirt no it's I wrapped it in a sweatshirt I am so fancy I wonder what it is it's big oh this is so nice thank you so much I'm sorry that I didn't like wrap it wrap it turn it over it is okay first of all it is a 500 piece puzzle which is my you know like soft spot and it is a piece of artwork with lots of leaves that says piece by piece but peace is spelled p-a-p-e-a-c-e p-e-a yeah no it's a puzzle that's supposed to bring inner peace because like the leaves are

very common so this is a really hard puzzle yeah Yeah so I think that. This is so thoughtful. It's just a puzzle plus piece which is you. A puzzle plus piece and you know more often than not a puzzle brings me peace. Right so and this one is designed to bring you peace. It's just beautiful. I thought you would like it. This is from the Mayflower. The Mayflower Inn. It was in the gift shop. Wow a piece of Real Housewives history. Right I just. Thank you so much. You're so welcome. I hope you enjoy it. I do. I love puzzles. And you know I bought so many puzzles at the beginning of quarantine. And I've done all of them already.

And like do you do puzzles twice? I don't know. Oh. I don't know what people do. Because I don't even do puzzles once. That's crazy. Like you're missing out. Especially because you're so smart. Like you have that type of mind.

And also like if you are ever like at a nightclub. And you drop your earring on the floor. You want Jackie there to find it like she has crazy eyes so you actually would be so good at puzzles and it might bring you peace maybe we'll do it together maybe we'll do it together no I really actually think like you of all people I know you hate games it's not a game it's so relaxing doing one on your own with like a coffee and like you leave it on your table no that does sound nice I actually think you would like it do you want this one no okay oh my god you don't like it no of course I do but I want

you to have a puzzle yeah no I can get a puzzle I actually have puzzles in like it. Do you want this one? No. Oh my God. You don't like it? No, of course I do. But I want you to have a puzzle. Yeah, no, I can get a puzzle. I actually have puzzles in my house, I think, because I've been gifted. Start easy, because a hard puzzle can actually ruin your day. Okay, I'll start easy. I'll think about it. That was so nice. Thank you.

You're welcome. When you told me you got me a gift, I tried to get you one. I just never found myself in a store. Do you know what I mean? No, and also it's like sometimes you don't choose the gift. The gift chooses you. I didn't go in there saying I need to get something for Claudia. But something for Claudia found its way to me.

And actually in my own way like I did get you a present. Because I traveled near and far. And I found a hotel that I just know you're going to like. So like I did the work for you. Thank you. I stayed at the hotel for you. You're so generous. That's what I do here.

That's what sisters do. That's what sisters do. So I'm glad you like it. Hopefully you could play with. Even though like I'm going to be very cautious about what I say like puzzles do give me March tie-dye vibes oh I think a lot of people can relate to like certain things that they hoarded or started to do at the beginning of quarantine that like no longer bring them joy it just reminds them of that really dark time like when we were all tie-dyeing things and pretending we were happy yeah that but it's like a year ago today you know the two weeks to flatten the curve that actually wasn't that dark of times like we were it was so novel that it was

kind of exciting it was like two weeks off four months later six months later eight months later like those were the hard times at least for me personally oh a hundred percent I actually on my time hop I finally um caught up to like you know the flatten the curve and I guess I actually remember like people were I remember my friend Margo came over do you remember at the beginning of quarantine I was like I'm having a game night like should I cancel and you were like yeah and I was like oh my this bitch is so dramatic and my friends came over and my friend Margo who's like always very smart she's very like cautious she was like are you guys gonna like get like canned food I'm like what like h. She's very like cautious. She was like, are you guys going to like get like canned food?

I'm like, what? Like hunkering down for like a storm. I'm like, you're crazy. And I was literally like the last person to go to the grocery store that by the time Ben went for us, like it was when, you know, there was no toilet paper

and we were literally living off of like Hawaiian rolls. That was all they had at the grocery store. But in my time up, I finally got a picture of like when my whole counter was just like filled with like random supplies. Yeah. And it actually brought me back to like that part was fun. That was like a sleepover.

It's like a snow day. Yeah. You know, but then it turned into something else. Yeah. Snow year. So I tie dye. I mean, I feel bad. I feel bad for the tie dye.

Yeah. No tie dyeing will just like never not make me like sad. Yeah. I feel that. But I feel like we could bring back puzzles. That one is so peaceful. And puzzles actually really did were one of the things that like made me really excited. never not make me like sad yeah I feel that but I feel like we could bring back puzzles that one is so peaceful and puzzles actually really did were one of the things that like made me really excited like it was like a nighttime activity in quarantine yeah that and like quiplash yeah oh my

god those were the days also for me it was like reading and yeah cooking and like look how far I've come in the last year like I thought when I was cooking pasta at home I was like wow chef that's true I was like I'm such a chef and now like I'm literally cooking lemon chicken lemon garlic mashed potatoes made of cauliflower by the way that's so true because I remember at the beginning of quarantine we were both saying how like people who were listening to us who like use their kitchens actively like they thought we were insane but I had literally never used my stove yeah um before quarantine and I was actually making myself dinner last night and I was like look at me I'm not even in quarantine and I'm making myself chicken no totally yeah good time proud of us proud of us as well and I wish I had

a kindle because now I'm like so hooked on my kindle but I was really anti-kindle you were I was like I need to I was like so Carrie Bradshaw I need like to feel the book oh and now it's like I can't hold a book it hurts my wrist you know, and the airiness of the Kindle is just unmatched. No, it's unmatched. And I just got this lap thing from Barnes and Noble where like you stick your Kindle in and you rest it on your lap. It's like a pillow. So all I have to do is tap and it's like and my wrists.

I mean, the Kindle couldn't be lighter. But now if I have to hold it, I'm like, oh, also Kindle needs to come out with like a little you know how when you have a selfie stick, you get like a little Bluetooth clicker. Claude, I said this. Oh, like on the show. But it was before you were a Kindle needs to come out with like a little, you know how when you have a selfie stick, you get like a little Bluetooth clicker? Claude, I said this like on the show, but it was before you were a Kindle user. And I so agree. They just need a Bluetooth. Because sometimes you're laying comfortably and you have to pick your hand up. You have your arm, like you're laying on your, a hundred percent.

Yeah. Like they make them for like selfie sticks and stuff. It shouldn't be that hard. Kindles have Wi-Fi. They should have Bluetooth. They do have Bluetooth, I think. So maybe someone makes one, but it should be like the, I mean, it's Amazon. Like they could do that in their sleep.

Yeah. No, they literally could. So yeah, that is our quarantine recap. And I just really look forward to the day where we stop talking about coronavirus, you know, and I'm getting there. Yeah. I look forward to it as well. You know what else I'm looking forward to?

Thursday. Because we have a little merch collection dropping on Thursday and I don't want to spoil too much you'll see it tomorrow we'll wear it on the show but I would say that it is beautiful stunning and smart you know I would say that too and you know me I can't resist like a little sneak peek so there's what like five or six items I have one in my hand I'm just gonna give you like a brief whoop okay whoop whoop that's all you know. It's so cute. I was wearing mine yesterday and it's also so comfortable. It's a different material than like the last drop and I'm so excited for you guys to see it Thursday. It will be launching. Stay tuned for all the deets. It's

just a small beautiful stunning and smart collection. I would say it's a capsule collection. Yes. Yes. Love a capsule. So yes that'll be Thursday but starting tomorrow you'll start to see some of the items on the show on our instagram so make sure you're following the morning toast on instagram yesterday i was just like on fire with the instagram there was so much content yeah it was really good so little time so little time and also while you're on a following spree follow me at jackie ashrae and uh theo pups with no job they've been on hiatus though they yeah their social manager's kind of slacking. No, well, I was going really hard for the pups and then they came to me and they were like,

listen, we need to take a break. Like self-care, we just need to focus on ourselves right now and we just can't be in the spotlight. And I said, pups, I hear you. They felt like they were being exploited. Yeah, and it was just like every day a picture. Like I'm always texting the moms, like send me pictures of the pups.

And the pups were like, we're we're tired no also like we can only post so many pictures from our houses and like we haven't left our houses in a year you know you know what it actually was that made me stop posting so much from the pups like I take premium pictures of Bruno every single day it's a passion of mine but I can't only post pictures of Bruno to pups so I have to wait for a premium picture of Theo that's not in his bed so I'm so it's like waiting for rain in this drop amazing fucking reference waiting for you it's like waiting for a rain in this drop so that's really teardrop comes down and even Margo and Magnolia she just like doesn't send me like portrait mode natural lighting photos like the ones I take of Bruce

and so the standard for pubs is up here no one's meeting it therefore there's not nothing to post okay well that's actually the truth and I think I feel really good getting the truth off my chest I think that you should get back to work on the pups account like it was so good and I think you need to be taking premium photos of Theo outside but I think that like you see Theo every day and like you take better pictures than me like everyone knows that I have maxed out on pictures I can take of him in the studio if you look at the we just got a new rug no but if you look at the. We just got a new rug. No, but if you look at the pups Instagram, like they're all. It's either Theo in the studio or Theo in the bed.

Well, because Theo. Just like his mom. No, but like Theo works so hard. He only has time to be in the studio or at the house. And I think if you actually look at those pictures, you get a real sense of who Theo is and his work ethic. I mean, I do agree with that. So he needs to work a little less hard, play more, take more pics. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. So we needs to work a little less hard, play more, take more pics.

100%. 100%. So we have a great show. What's on tonight on TV? I think Real Housewives of Dallas. I have a lot of catching up to do. I caught up yesterday. And, like, I'm such a supporter of Real Housewives of Dallas. I really am.

But, like, my God, it was so bad. Really? Yeah. And, like, the drama is so fake like it's like they it's frustrating when like a housewives franchise has low ratings and it's so good and like people just aren't seeing that but I feel as though like they deserve their ratings based on what they're giving me like it's really not okay well I felt like up until this point the season was pretty good but I think I'm like three episodes behind now so I had to catch up on two okay I'm gonna catch up today

we'll recap tomorrow switching gears a little bit back to Real Housewives and today's show is gonna be a different little structure we're not gonna save our bachelor recap for the end because we know that's what you're all here for so we are gonna start with the bachelor recap so without further ado let's get into the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast and today's episode I'm you're probably wondering, Claudia, why you're glowing like the bags under your eyes are gone. You look so well rested. Thanks to Bowlin Branch, today's sponsor. No one wants to cut corners on what's important. And few things matter more than good night's rest. So true. Bowlin Branch's signature sheets feel so soft and light, you'll forget you're not actually sleeping on a cloud. And they're

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Should we start? Should we recap the whole episode? Yeah, I mean, the really only part worth discussing was after the final was the last 30 minutes

of the three hour special hour special. But we'll take it from the top. For those of you who didn't watch we actually asked yesterday do people want us to continue recapping the bachelor and or award shows and most of you said no we don't need to watch anymore but some people said like i don't watch but i just listen to your recaps which is helpful so let's just recap the episode and then we'll talk about where we go from here yes so the episode itself was so boring. Like I could have died. Like those two hours felt like an eternity. And you feel like you have to watch live because it's the finale.

So like you're watching with commercials and it's just painful. Painful. So many commercials. And then the actual content was just as boring as the commercials because it was just like all like just fine. Like it was all standard. Like, of of course Matt's family loved the girls they're both great girls like whatever the family feels more strongly about

one but I actually felt like both girls made a really great impression and the family felt really good about both of them which was then interesting that his mom gave him this advice which I actually think was just really good parental advice yes but not on The Bachelor but you know off brand for The Bachelor and to be honest like I off brand for The Bachelor. And to be honest, like, I've always felt like the one of the core problems with the franchise is like, if they really want like a genuine success rate, it's very rare for someone. The Bachelor, they say it's weeks, whatever. It's literally, the whole thing is a month. Like, it's really not a natural place to fall in love. It's such a short amount of time. I think the way that they force engagements,

like with Rachel Lindsay's season, it really came to like like a peak Colton had a problem with it like most people and a lot of the people that they cast on The Bachelor are very religious so most religious people like are not willing to get engaged unless it's like the one you know right so it's become like this hurdle and even though I like I agreed with Matt like okay you're not ready to rush into a proposal so maybe you don't go on the show that rushes people into proposals. Right. I felt two ways about it. One, obviously, like, you know what you signed up for. That's what everyone says.

But on the other hand, I was like, I kind of like that The Bachelor, this show is slow, like pumping the brakes a little bit because these rush engagements are not. They're not productive. And so I on a personal level, I liked the fact that he was like let's end this in a relationship they're both pretty young like there's literally no rush but for the show it's like you said the whole time your wife was in this room that's what it is like it felt so random like okay your mom said one thing and now everything you were thinking for the months before and that's what Chris Harrison was trying to say even though he did come off like a little rude like of course he's gonna take his mom's advice his mom is like his whole world and

literally every time his mom cried like I cried I loved her and that was good parental advice outside of the scope of like this weird journey that they're on um but it also sort of felt like like his mom said one thing and like he changed the trajectory of the show where it sort of felt like he was waiting for some sort of reason to not get engaged yeah and i don't think it's a big deal but like we just then spent so much of the episode like matt just like sitting in silence like thinking should i get engaged or not and from an entertainment perspective it was so boring yeah he canceled the dates like so it's literally we're watching him pace around his room rachel paced around his room michelle paced around her room like it was just boring boring boring right

and then given the topics of conversation that after the final rose we never even mentioned the whole plot of the episode which was about him changing his mind on an engagement and everything we watched like we there's never even a conversation about it and of the three hours I feel like they probably spent like 15 to 20 minutes on like what we were really looking for and I could have used just way more of that but then by the time we got to Rachel and Matt's conversation which we'll get into it was filled with like mostly silence so like I'm just from from a and we'll get into like the deeper topics but just from a purely entertainment perspective for a show that's supposed to capture us for three hours I felt bored for so long of it and like that's where I like I'm like why am I subjecting

myself to the show yeah it's entertainment it's supposed to entertain me yeah but you weren't entertained I was not entertained I will just say that the setup that was meant for the proposal um sickening so sickening maybe the most beautiful in bachelor history maybe like they're all extremely beautiful but this was like a very like a hallmark wintry fall vibe they're all really beautiful except at the last season for both Clarendale and Zach and Tayshia like it was not the cutest. No it was not the cutest but they did a wonderful job. I thought it looked like a fairy tale and then they had the horse drawn carriage. I agree. At the end and so from a production standpoint I really enjoyed the visual. I completely agree. When he sent Michelle home it was like really awkward because she had like just given him that

gift and what we found out afterwards which I thought was so crazy was like Michelle was like really heartbroken like off camera and Matt wouldn't even like talk to her usually any I would say once we have like six or eight people left anytime someone leaves it's a big deal and there's a long conversation they sit outside yeah you talk about like it's not me it's I'm sorry it's not you it's me no Matt was just like peace It's me. No, Matt was just like, peace. No, literally, we're done. Goodbye. It was so harsh. It was harsh.

And so I thought maybe there was just stuff we weren't seeing or whatever. But the stuff we didn't see is the fact that she wanted to have that conversation and that he said no. Yeah, and I really did feel bad for her because she was still even getting choked up on After the Final Rose. And she's a great girl. And spoiler alert, she will be one of the next Bachelorettes. And I do think she's a great girl and spoiler alert she she will be one of the next bachelorettes and I do think like she's a great girl worthy of love she can definitely carry a show um I think Matt struggled with that sometimes like being the lead and I think she'll be great but um I don't know if I'm gonna watch but she'll be good yeah we'll talk about the bachelorette the upcoming season

um but let's the the breakup did seem very abrupt especially because they had a really good day and things were going well yeah so but it's just been so clear from the beginning that like Rachel is like at what point are you just gonna break up with her like are you gonna let her get dressed for a proposal which I actually really respect right I think towards the end especially with the bachelor when they let like both girls come up like in their prom dresses like at some point it's just mean. Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah.

And I always like when like you know he sends a girl home. And the girl who won like doesn't know that the other girl went home. And she's like nervous. It's like oh you don't have anything to be nervous about. Like it's you. Right. In fact but like Rachel really thought because he canceled. They never canceled the last date.

And then she showed up. And I really thought she thought it wasn't going to happen for her. It was like a fecocked ending. Like it just made no sense. It was. But then it was a happy ending. And then it showed up and I really thought she thought it wasn't going to happen for her. It was like a fecocked ending. Like it just made no sense. It was. But then it was a happy ending. And then it wasn't. So like the whole time, like in their own way, like I have really felt from the beginning that Rachel and Matt like had the strongest connection. And it was like something you saw all along.

And I was like watching it like happy for them, but like also like not like knowing what was coming up next. Yeah. So let's dive into After the Final Rose. the first thing was Chris Harrison was not there and I know a lot of people are upset about a lot of people are happy about it but at the end of the day like based on the conversations they had like I don't think anyone could have done a better job than Emmanuel Acho like he was excellent he was excellent he did an amazing job I can't imagine thinking about how Chris Harrison would have handled the situation I just don't think it would have been as impactful. Even if he wasn't a part of the controversy,

like even if he had stayed out of the whole thing, I don't think you can really grasp it if you're not black. Yeah. And I just don't think he ever really goes that deep ever. I agree. So I think it ultimately worked out. People were confused because he was still doing the narrations. It was confusing

I thought why don't they just have like a manual voiceover or even Matt like yeah and it's also like he said he's he's stepping back from The Bachelor yet like here he is like working doing voiceovers and in the episode more than he's ever been in any episode like he was everywhere last night I mean they couldn't I mean they could have I guess edit him out of the episode but they chose early in the season to not edit the season based on things that were happening outside of the season. That's true. But I thought that him narrating the rest of the episode, I think it actually worked for cohesion.

And then it was like nice that it wasn't him at the, after the final rose. Yeah, it couldn't have been him. Like it really, and I thought Emmanuel was great, even though like his jacket was so tight. I could not stop staring at his arms. I'm like, if that was me, like I literally wore a dress on my trip

that I busted out of. Like I couldn't imagine that like in the back like there wasn't some torn seams. I was just getting very distracted by it. Not that that was the point,

but I was just curious if other people were distracted by that as well. I noticed it once and then I wasn't distracted by it though. Got it. Okay.

When he sat down, like they did loosen up a little bit, but every time he stood, I was like, oh my God, he's busting out of the jacket. So they brought Michelle out first.

Like whatever. Those conversations are always boring. But I did think it was interesting that Emmanuel asked her about the Rachel scenario. And I think she gave like a very kind of

like political answer. Because you live in the house with these girls. Like they probably are friends. Rachel and Michelle. Yeah. And so if Michelle is saying like I think that Rachel

has a good heart. I think that that's important to know. Yeah. And for me and like Ben was, Ben watched like the last 30 minutes with me and we both at the same time

were like kind of blown away by, Emmanuel said something that was so pertinent because I think that like we throw the word like racism around and those types of labels like stick forever. And he made it very clear, like, Rachel, I don't think that you are racist. We're not saying you're a racist person.

There's a difference between being racist and being racially insensitive. And he made it a point to refer to her as racially insensitive multiple times, which I think is an important distinction. I agree. I thought the same thing. So I just think that's when he said that, I'm like, he was the man for the job. Like Rachel Lindsay was totally right in nominating him because it was so it's so layered and this is like what people talk about now all the time like cancel culture and everything and I think he kind of picked it apart very delicately and at the end of the day I think he was trying to

be devil's advocate trying to like have compassion for Matt and I think he like did an excellent job like I would give him a five stars out of five. Yeah, while also asking questions that I think a lot of us have. Yeah. And at the end of the day, like, when we sat down with Rachel and Matt, like, it was not at all what I expected. I was pretty sure that they had broken up because... That's what we heard.

That's what we heard. And I just don't know how, like, any couple, like, really gets through that. Like, it's so awkward, you know? Yeah. So he sat down with Matt first, and he chronicled the post filming journey where they were in the honeymoon stage it was really great these things started to come up Matt said that he just sort of dismissed them as like rumors and then after Rachel Kirkconnell put out her apology they broke up that's what he said yeah and basically he had said that when when they were

talking basically like at first Rachel like really didn't understand why they were so bad. And I thought that the question Emmanuel asked Rachel, like, okay, you win this show, you get engaged to a black man. How many nights do you lie awake thinking about these photos? You know, they exist. Thinking they're going to come back to haunt you, resurface. And her answer, which was super honest, was like, literally, I didn't think about it once because I did not think I was doing anything wrong at the time and I think that was kind of like indicative of the entire thing here it's like she didn't she didn't actively you know go to a party wanting to hurt an entire community it was just her ignorance that blinded her from like the history of antebellum parties yeah so I thought that was a great question but what he had basically said was like Rachel's at first now it

seems like she's really committed to you know learning more but at first when it came out like she kind of refused to even within her within her and Matt's relationship refused to like see it as a big deal yeah and so I think that her reaction to that in the conversations that ensued after were the reasons and I think those things are obviously things that we don't know but how they led to breaking up over it yeah and at the end of the day I just especially the conversation between Rachel and Matt, like I just felt really, really sad. Me too. Because like Matt was like super angry.

And like when he was, when Emmanuel was like, you want to have one last embrace? And like Matt just sat there. Like they were, I just felt bad for really everyone. Like it was so sad because at the end of the day, like there is a love lost. And I really did feel like if this hadn't happened, like I do think that they could have been like hardcore OTP.

Yeah, I agree. It's so sad for both of them. I think for Matt, he went on this whole journey and to have it end like this. Right. I think that he must be just very sad. I think for Rachel, who calls him the love of her life, like multiple times that she'll never feel this way

about someone else. Like, it's just really sad. That's how I felt watching the end of it and it was tough it was tough like it was a really it was just really intense and everyone was like freaking out over the silences but that's how those conversations go right and so that's what happened like they could have cut them out sure but like that's what was happening you know it was super intense and like I think even at times like Emmanuel felt really awkward. Because like nobody was saying anything.

Because nobody knew what to say. Like of course I'm sure Matt would love to like you know be in love with Rachel again. And like take her back. But it's so much more layered than that. Yeah. So it was an interesting after the final rose. Perhaps the most interesting we've had in a while. But at the end of the day I just left like with this sadness.

Yeah. Then they tried to turn things around by announcing the new Bachelorette. we've had in a while um but at the end of the day i just left like with this sadness yeah then they tried to turn things around by announcing the new bachelorette and we're both the bachelorettes it is katie and michelle so i think uh katie's going first katie's going first this was based on the spoiler that i read which turned out to be true katie's spoiler that i read was just katie oh no the spoiler that i read which sounds Katie. Oh no, the spoiler that I read, which sounds totally true, is that Katie is going first, then they'll film Paradise,

and then this summer they'll film Michelle season because she didn't want to miss school because she's committed to those campers. And we absolutely love to see that. Wow, wow, wow. So she said she wouldn't have done it if she had to take off. Oh my God, I love her.

She's like so not thirsty. No, it's so beautiful that the campers are her priority i just no i know a million girls would leave the campers in the dust for a chance in a heartbeat yeah so actually i have a lot of respect for that yes um but and then also that explains why we have two former bachelor hosts caitlin and tasha i'm assuming one will be for katieie season and one will be for michelle season oh that's interesting that way it's not like it takes two women to do the job

of one man right because it really and not even the job of a man the easiest job ever to say this is the final rose right there's one rose left uh thank you professor harrison um but that does lead me to the future of the franchise and my relationship with the franchise. And there was one episode where I was really like, you know, Katie's my girl because she like stood up against the bullies. That does not a Bachelorette make. And I just like, I feel, and I get this way every couple of years, like very fatigued by the franchise, really feeling like they take advantage of my time, especially last night, like three hours.

Like there was 20 minutes of really good content in there and that's all we really needed to say. They don't know how to not they don't know how to be like it's a finale it could be one hour with a one hour special. How long are episodes of Love Island? An hour I think but they're on five nights a week. Got it okay. Would you rather that? No no no no no no no no. Um I was just curious. So I think as it stands, like, I really feel like I've outgrown the franchise. And of course, maybe that'll change in a few years. But even though I like Michelle, I don't live for Katie.

So I definitely won't watch Katie season. And although I do like Michelle, like, she's very nice. Like, and nice is boring. Like, give me Claire Crawley, crazy chaotic energy. Like, that's what makes good TV. So I'm happy for her I wish them both incredible luck I do feel as though I'll be sitting out this franchise also it makes me such a negative person like I come on here I agree I agree what about Paradise Paradise is good but then it's like if I don't know the people like yeah so I think you'll be able to watch this

season of Paradise you won't know like Katie's guys. But then probably going forward. I agree. I just, I think I've aged out. Yeah. And I'm moving on. And I got a bunch of DMs from people being like, it's literally like an addiction. Like I quit The Bachelor years ago and I've never looked back.

Yeah. And I just want to, I want that energy for the rest. And you know what? Norma Kamali said like the pandemic,, we are slowly coming out of it. And we have so much to do in the next year. We have so much catching up to do. I don't have time to spend two hours a week watching The Bachelorette when I could be at the edge of a cliff like Norma said I should be.

Yeah, I agree. So that's that on that. Yeah. See ya, Bachelor. See ya. And one last thing. When Matt sat alone with Emmanuel, just kind of talking about the responsibility he felt internally

and then just like external pressures of being the first Bachelor, I thought the way he kind of communicated that to someone who might not understand what it's like to be the first black Bachelor, like myself, I thought was really well done. You know, because he feels this responsibility, like going into the homes of millions of Americans who might not have had like a black man in their home before,

but have like these kind of built up stereotypes and like imaginations like what a black man is. And I just thought like he did a great job representing himself, his family, the franchise. Him and his brother look so much alike. It was crazy. Yeah. Crazy. But neither one of them I really saw looks like their mom no but they do look so much alike it's crazy like are they

twins Basil no I don't think so no but it's just like me and you you told me that a lot of people were saying online that his brother looked like Colin Kaepernick which is so true yes crazy crazy um okay so that's the Bachelor recap. Anything else you want to say? I just want to say, if we'll ever be speaking on The Bachelor again. Right. I just want to say goodbye.

Goodbye. Goodbye. It might not be a goodbye. It might be a see you later, but it's probably a goodbye. And I want to say thanks for the memories. I've made actually a lot of really good friends from watching The Bachelor.

But I've also wasted a lot of my time and lost a lot of brain cells so I'm gonna lay the franchise to rest I do feel as though in its own way The Bachelor like will be coming to it like I just feel like it can't go on forever and for a while it felt like it was gonna go on forever but it's kind of starting to like self-implode yeah and I do think like it might be the end of The Bachelor as well yeah not now not now but sooner rather sooner than we thought yeah I think these next two Yeah. And I do think like it might be the end of The Bachelor as well. Yes. Not now. Not now. But sooner rather. Sooner than we thought.

Yeah. I think these next two seasons plus Paradise is going to be very indicative for them. Yeah. I think a lot of people also feel the way that we do. Like. Me too. We're now going to say our goodbyes. Yes.

Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Some happy bed bed news ocean ocean lala kent gives birth to daughter ocean it's a wave of happiness for the emmett family lol a wave that's funny vanderpump rules star lala kent and her fiance hollywood producer randall emmett have welcomed

their first child together a daughter named ocean theyear-old new mom captioned a photo of herself cradling the newborn on Monday saying Ocean Kent Emmett. Super happy for them obviously. I kind of loved their very nonchalant announcement like no major photo shoot just like Lala probably on Randall's phone like right when the baby came out. Yeah. And I actually love them as a couple when you think of how far they've come like remember she was driving the white Range Rover and everyone thought she was like having sex with an NFL player who was like paying for her life. And now they have a baby together

and it's like a nice life. I'm really happy for them. I'm really happy for them. I really like the name Ocean. It's not, I hadn't thought about what I was expecting, but I guess I wouldn't have expected something so. Conventional. Conventional for her.

And I think it's just a really pretty name. Me too, it is really pretty. It's just so crazy. Like I think it's just a really pretty name. Me too. It is really pretty. It's just so crazy. Like how Sheena is about to have a baby. Brittany's about to have a baby. Like in the last year, Vanderpump rules has changed so much. Yeah. They're still not filming. Also Saucy just had a baby. There's just so many Vander babies. There's so many Vander bumps. Well, the bumps are turning to babies that's true but um i do think they're like we we've said this a few times there is an opportunity for a show there but so many of the members have been you know quote unquote canceled that i don't know like how we go how that works yeah but like this group of very famous friends are all having babies like it is an interesting

concept for a show yeah really cute i don't know if we'll get it but happy for Randall and Lala. Me too. I feel like she was pregnant for like a while. Oh I feel like hers was shorter. Like it just felt shorter because it was like came after. I guess she was the second announcement but before Britney. I don't know. I feel like Britney's been pregnant for so long. My favorite thing is like when pregnant people acknowledge that like other people feel like they've been pregnant for so long and they're like imagine how i feel 100 that's gonna be me yeah okay next up a little royal news prince philip 99 was released from the london hospital after 28 days prince philip has been released from the hospital as and is in good spirits a royal source tells people the duke of edinburgh has today been discharged from king edward the

seventh hospital and has returned to Windsor Castle following treatment for an infection and a successful procedure for a pre-existing condition, a Buckingham Palace spokesperson said on Tuesday. That royal healthcare man just keeping corpses alive. Yeah, I mean, the pictures of him leaving the hospital. Truckers for Prince Philip are here. Oh, they are very strong.

The royal truckers. They ride. They rideers. They ride. They ride hard. They ride or die. I feel like it was a little worrisome there for a second. He was in the hospital for a while. And I'm glad to see that he's coming home. Yeah.

It's also kind of crazy that he goes to a hospital. Wouldn't they have a hospital in the palace? Yeah, it's certainly big enough. But also, hospital has all the latest and greatest. No, of course. And if we learn anything from Joan Rivers, it's like if you're having a procedure, do it in a hospital. Go to the hospital.

Yeah. Because if she was in a hospital for her standard endoscopy, is that what it's called? Throat thing? She would have been fine. Yeah. Damn. Damn. Taken too soon.

Somehow all conversations lead to Joan Rivers being taken from us too soon. Yeah. Because it's all you can think about once you think about it. When you think about like health. Yeah. Picture of health, Joan Rivers being taken from us too soon. Yeah, because it's all you can think about once you think about it. When you think about like health. Yeah. Picture of health, Joan Rivers. I agree. By the way, I'm looking at the monitor

and the plant behind you looks so stunning. Oh, I don't think we really told everyone who's watching on the YouTube. We've had some like recent changes. We got a lot of comments on our Instagram that the carpet we used to have like looked like a wee wee pad and it did. No, and it's like we didn't need comments

on Instagram to let us know. Like we knew it was dirty. With our boot marks theo and bruno have both peed on it jackie one time trekked in some like weird oil on her boot that like left skin marks everywhere yes also then like two weeks ago while we were doing picture and i dropped my coffee and that was really the last straw so the thing is is that on the show you can't really see the carpet at all except under the table so like it doesn't matter yeah but then for the post show pics it was like it was gross and i would try and edit them like you know in face or like or remove the stain and there was nothing that could be done so we got a new carpet it's supposed to be like one of the this is like for kids like

meant to like have paint spilled on it you know yeah so hopefully it's better and brighter and then our new plant is from one of our sponsors that we did uh last week bloomscape sickening right sickening it looks so good behind you now i want a plant and it's been a while since we had plenty vibes here in our studio when we used to literally exclusively cultivate plenty vibes in our old studio right and this is a live one those ones were fake oh we gotta take care of it yeah water and everything we have a living being in the studio wow a friend for someone's living here a squatter it's a ghost spooky the ghost of bloomscapes past um before we move on i do feel like i have something to say okay i think it's so important that when you have something

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It's going to change your life. Okay, last two stories are a little TV news. First up, Grammys ratings tank in 2021, possibly to an all-time low. The 2021 Grammys made history and turned heads, but it still couldn't win the ratings game. Early ratings from Nielsen have the awards drawing a measly 7.9 million total viewers. Although the numbers should climb when adjusted for time zones. Last year, 18.7 million viewers tuned into the event.

And that was also pretty low. Wait, to go from 18 to 8? Yeah. And then in 2019, it was 19.9. Got it. So to go from 19 to 18 is like whatever. We're living in the age of streaming. Of course, it's going to go down. But to go from 18 to 8, like whatever we're living in the age of streaming of course it's gonna go down but to go from 18 to 8 that's really bad that's really bad and it's like I feel

like last night's episode of The Bachelor probably put up like the same close numbers because I think Bachelor usually gets around like five million but I feel like um I feel like everyone was watching that after The Final Rose last night wait I'm shocked like and by the way it's really bad we report on this after every award show like the ratings always go down and it's just like a combination of people not having cable anymore kind of celebrities like especially in recent years especially with COVID like just becoming like random almost and I'm just like shocked at the the skip like I did I read that headline but I did not read that first line like that's fucking crazy yeah crazy and I'm actually really shocked that it's the Grammys because I think of and I said

this yesterday of all the award shows the Grammys to me is like the most inclusive in terms of like I think the most people from different walks of life like listen to music you know everyone listens to music and all genres are represented all age groups like I don't know I find that shocking yeah I mean people don't want it they don't know. I find that shocking. Yeah. I mean, people don't want it. They don't want it. Good to know for us. And after our conversation yesterday, we got a lot of feedback from people saying they won't be watching the Oscars and they really don't need us to recap it. So thank you because I'm going to use those few hours to take Norma's advice and go to the edge of a cliff. Perfect. Looking forward to it. I'll probably just sit in bed like watching

something else, but you know what I mean? Maybe you'll be be reading maybe you'll be doing your puzzle I've got to finish the mother-in-law this book that I'm reading I just love it like I don't want to finish it oh that's so great I'm reading a book that I have been reading like it's taking me so long I'm not really loving it but now I'm at like 80 so hopefully I can just finish it it's called the editor and I chose it is it called the big Time Magazine Editor or just the editor? Just the editor. But actually it is a big time editor because it's like historical fantasy. It's like the editor is Jackie O. Like she edits for a publishing house.

So it's like, it's not real, but it's based on a real person. But it's so interesting. I thought so too. Yeah. You know? Third and final story, a little more TV news. World of Dance was canceled at nbc after four

seasons and before you ask it is the one with j-lo oh okay well so there's so you think you can dance which is like the less popular dancing with the stars but one time we talked slender about so you think you can dance and the syttd community like no wait so you think think syttd is say yes to the dress sorry syt whatever why so you think you can-y-t-t-d is say yes to the dress sorry s-y-t whatever why do you think you can dance community like came for us they're like no no we are strong so i was wrong about that but i don't think i'm wrong seeing as how this got canceled that like world of wonder dance whatever it's called is nothing of the sort yeah and also now with the mask dancer um how can they compete and the masked franchise is actually like killing it.

When they first announced their show, like the Masked Singer, I'm like, well, we've hit an all time low in creativity in Hollywood. Like this is the dumbest idea. People fucking love it. I know. You know, I felt that way about this show that they were showing a commercial for last night on The Bachelor. It's about like, it's like a dog grooming competition.

What? Like the perfect pooch or something. Lisa Vanderpump is a judge. Rebel Wilson hosts. And I was like, literally, who would ever watch it? The commercial comes on,

I'll tell you who. Bruno was hyper. Oh, living. And it's like, oh, then I would put it on if Bruno would enjoy it. No, and that's actually similar to like,

So You Think You Can Dance. Like there is a cult community of people who are like obsessed with dog grooming. There's a community of people who are obsessed with dancing. Like that's the beauty of entertainment. Like there's truly something for everyone. There's Dr. Pimple Popper.

Her show is very popular on TLC. Yeah. I just I wouldn't have expected a dog grooming show on like ABC prime time. But you never know. Have you watched the Thousand Pound Sisters? I have not. It's so good. And they're like

viral on tiktok and um there's this sound that's going viral and it's literally like me and you try being my size amy you don't know how it is it's literally like my life in a sound and i think you should get into thousand pound sisters it is a spin-off of my 600 pound life which is a thousand pounds together oh you know it's a misleading and I'm gonna say a thousand pounds each because why is she saying try being my size if they're so I think it's like 600 and 400 like one I forget I forget their names but one of them is much more um physically like able bodied than the other because there's such a disparity between their weight oh okay that's confusing That's confusing. Yeah, but we love a sister show and I actually think you would like it. I have to get Olivia to watch it because Olivia and I are obsessed with my 600 pound life and literally Olivia once bought me a magnet. You're supposed to put it on your fridge of Dr.

Nisardin. So like every time you go in for a snack, it's like, what would Dr. Nisardin say? That's really funny. And he's a fucking savage. Like that, he really is the heart and soul of that franchise. Oh, for sure. TLC is just popping out weird content left and right. I actually went through. That's what they do.

I went through a TLC phase. Like I was obsessed with Sister Wives, which just like recently became like, it's too much for me. And I also became obsessed with my 19 Pound Scrotum, something like that.

It was a really interesting show. When I was in high school, like me and my friends were obsessed with TLC. Like we would watch crazy as shit. That's so crazy. And then like me and my friend Rachel, who were like really obsessed, we both decided to start Sister Wives. And she didn't start it and I did. And then I became so hooked.

And that's how my love affair with Cody, Robin and the gang began. Damn. Okay. Maybe I'll check out Thousand Pound Sisters. I actually think you'll like it. Like they're hysterical. Oh, and they're also influencers. Like they like have a community before the show.

Now they're super famous. But before the show, they were like YouTubers. Oh, cool. You know, it's just, it's very layered, which is my new favorite word. I think we need layered merch. Okay. I say everything is layered because you know what? Most things are.

Thank you. Most things are. Theo just got up. Looks like he's enjoying the carpet. Yeah. And that's all you can hope for. That's a sign of approval for sure. I think that's it, right?

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