The Toast - S4 Ep53: Hey Girl Hey with Taylor Strecker: Wednesday, March 24th, 2021

Episode Date: March 24, 2021

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the morning toast. I am so excited. First of all, because it's Wednesday, happy hump day to all of you. Please don't forget to hump someone you love, whether it's your partner or your dog. It doesn't matter because it's a special day, mostly because it's hump day, but also because I am joined by one of the great loves of my life, filling in for Jackie today, Miss Taylor Strecker. Hey, girl. Hey. life filling in for Jackie today, Miss Taylor Strecker. Hey girl, hey. Hey girl, hey. I'm so excited. I've missed, I mean, I always miss you, but I get to see you, but I, it's been, it's been a minute since I've been on the show. I know. I'm so glad you're here for a multitude of reasons. One, we have so much to catch up on. I don't believe you have been on this show since you've

become a fiancé. I have not. Are you wearing your ring? I am not. It doesn't fit my fingers. I won't tell Taylor. I won't tell Taylor. But also because we just have so much to catch up on. Jackie gets a day off while she's on vacation. And everyone wins except for me because I'm still here working. Oh, my God.

I'm so happy to be here. We do have so much to catch up with. I mean, I feel like it's been, God, Claudia, how long? Like a really long time because- Years. No, because we've been in COVID for a year. Oh, you came on the Patreon recently. That was really fun. That was so fun. I came to your apartment, went on the Patreon. Yeah. I mean, I swang in and out, but I'm really excited to be here today. Can I say what I want to say? Literally, I just want to put one disclaimer.

I'm up in Pennsylvania with TPG. We're having such a nice day. His dogs are super loud. So if you hear barking, it's just Celine and Marshall living their best lives. Nothing to be alarmed. Okay. I just this Monday, just this week, just two days ago, launched my motherfucking own Patreon. So-

Thank you, Queen. Claudia, you have been telling me, you can say right now I told you so, because you've been telling me for years, years. I'm not one of those people. Like, I really feel like your journey is your journey. I did tell you so, I did, but I'm not going to rub it in.

It's just like a matter of fact kind of thing. I don't know why it took me so long. If I'm being completely honest, it's like now that I'm over here, I'm like, I'm such a moron, like such an idiot for taking this long, but whatevs. We can, let's backtrack because I feel like we've gotten actually a lot of new toasters in the last year because of COVID who might not be familiar with your story. Okay. And I find it just to be such a story of like empowerment with your radio show.

So why don't you tell everyone, like for those who don't know, apologies for those who are obsessed with Taylor and already know. But tell us like a little bit about how you got here. So I have been in radio for like audio, if you will. I mean, you guys, I was in radio before podcasting even existed. I'm 1 thousand and three years old. So, but I look like a cherub, but I little chubby baby is what I look like. I, um, so I've been in radio for a while. I worked at Sirius XM for like 10, 11 years. I worked for

Cosmo radio, which was like the magazine. And back in the day, Cosmo was like the number one women's selling magazine. So it was kind of a big deal. I got it like right out of college, like super young. And it was amazing. I got to interview like all the celebs. I mean, it was like,

it was a rotating door of celebrities at Sirius. Like that was the thing, like Sirius equals star fucker. You know what I mean? So that was like incredible. Like I got to know Selena Gomez really well and invited her to my wedding. Taylor Swift.

Your first wedding. My first wedding. I interviewed Taylor Swift and I didn't know who she was because that's how early on it was. And she knew I didn't know who she was. And she was like really cool about it. She was nothing if not professional. Justin Bieber was a dick. And I almost got fired over that interview.

But I didn't get fired then. They waited 11 years later. Then you got fired. And it was, I mean, it really was the coolest job ever. And I am really grateful because without Sirius, I really probably wouldn't even be in radio slash audio, whatever podcasting. But, um, then they savagely fired me, um, on a Saturday when I was going to get an advertiser for the show. Mind you, I didn't make one penny from ad sales,

which we now know is so egregious. But anyway, so that was a dumpster fire. But while I was at Sirius, I, I was an identifiably straight girl. I, Cosmo,

right? Cosmo. I like the girl that they picked to do their radio show had to be like the Cosmo girl, right? Giving tips on blowjobs. And I was just like, I hate blowjobs. I hate sex. I hate penises. It doesn't everybody else. And it was crazy. And so of course I was like dating in New York and, you know, living with my best friend. And so I ended up, I was out in the Hamptons one summer and I met this guy, we're going to call him Chad for this portion. I was out in the Hamptons one summer and I met this guy.

We're going to call him Chad for this portion. And Chad was, you know, like douchey cute. You know what I'm saying? And so he was, I had been dating like a bad guys for so long. And like, I never really was like that into any of them.

And Chad, I was like, I have to stop dating drug dealers and start dating like adult people, you know, because I'm just not feeling like the drug dealer thing is going to like go well for me the longterm. But we all go through a drug dealer phase. It's nothing to worry about, nothing to be ashamed of. It's so true. So I remember like thinking this guy, I'm not like wanting to jump his bones, but like, do I ever want to jump anyone's bones?

Right. And at some point it's just like, you know, comfort. Yes, exactly. and he was like so nice and such a gentleman and really was like a good guy and i was like i'm gonna think with my brain and no longer like my heart or my vagina not that either one were really involved in the first place anyway um so we started to date and he was just like it was like a year and a half and then he proposed we moved in and then he proposed and i we just went through the motions once we were engaged shit hit the fan with his family and i was like oh my god like what am i doing i tried to like postpone the wedding i was like this is going to be so bad the prenup we were fighting for the prenup we were fighting over everything it was just like i'm fighting over religion it

was out of control yeah but i just was like well you like how rude to cancel a wedding when everybody's already sent their gifts you know i, I couldn't possibly have manners. I was raised well. So despite the fear, I went through the wedding and thought we'll figure it out after the wedding. And five years later we got a divorce. But remember what I said, it's all a part of a journey. It is a part of a journey because after I got a divorce, I fell in love with my very, I only had one, my very cool lesbian friend. I was, I was so lame. I thought I was like, when I met, well, my now fiance Taylor, yes, her name is Taylor. I'm Taylor. She's Taylor. I remember thinking that like, I'm so cool and woke that I have a lesbian friend. Now, mind you, this was like seven and a half years ago, so please don't come for me.

So you can say dumb shit like that. Exactly, and think all the dumbest shit. So I actually thought she was straight when I first met her. I actually hated her when I first met her, because she was tall and skinny and blonde, and her name was also Taylor, and she was the better Taylor, I could tell in two seconds, and I don't like that shit. So I was like, fuck this bitch. You're a big woman for

admitting that. Thank you. Oh, she's, I'm definitely the ugly duckling of the relationship. And that is, you are not, but she just is like so sickeningly gorgeous. It's just not fair. Very annoying. I like, I, I vacillate between like pretending her body is actually mine. Oh, that works. And remembering it's not. So when you were, you ended up being at Sirius for 11 years. You had a huge show, like huge show. It was big. Got fired, boom, done, toast, canceled. Yes.

And then you just kind of picked up the pieces and started your own radio show. And that's what you've been doing over the last three years. And why I really wanted you to come on this week is because, you know, we're all in this space. It's, we don't have a Sirius XM, like we're all doing it ourselves. And so you had tried different platforms and you finally now landed on Patreon, which I'm a huge proponent of Patreon. We've had so much success with it at the toast. I think it's an amazing platform. I like love that a lot of creators aren't on it yet because it's not oversaturated and the people who subscribe to our Patreon, like it works. Like

it's just a good platform for people like us. And I'm so excited that your show now finally moved. You also do a daily show. You do Monday through Friday. Monday through Friday daily show. It used to be so after series fired me, I basically found a network that could kind of do like, it was like live streaming radio. So I basically was like,

get the show back. That was taken from you. Cause it was truly taken. It was taken from me and the whole audience. They didn't even give me a goodbye show. It was like pretty savage. So that was crazy. That it was, it was crazy. And I had taken from me and the whole audience. They didn't even give me a goodbye show. It was like pretty savage. So that was crazy. That it was,

it was crazy. And I had to go like radio silent, but intended, um, for like months because I was in, you know, a contract, um,

situation with them where they were saying I could, my non-compete said was serious. I couldn't work for a year in audio. That is podcasting. I actually had a deal with CBS, like right out of the gate. Yeah. Stassi made a call for me because she

was like, yeah, she was like Captain Save-A-Ho, thank God. Right. And because I call her hysterically crying and then she was like, I mean, I was about to call you guys and try to talk about coming over to the old place as well. Verizon, yeah. Yeah.

And then that shit hit the fan and I was like, Claudia can't help me now. No, I know. I'm Yeah. Um, and then that shit hit the fan and I was like, Claudia can't help me now. No, I know. I'm like, girl, like I need your help. I'm canceled too, but in a much worse way. Oh my God. I literally, I got to a point where I was like, am I, do I have like the opposite of like, like the medias of what's it called? Touch. I was like, does everybody, I'm like, is I'm turning into shit and all my friends around me, I'm like spreading the shit out. No, 2018 was a very hard year for both of us.

Oh my God. But then my lawyers, Marty and Larry, it's the only way to go. Agreed. They were both like, they were like. If your lawyer is not named Marty, I don't want it. And curly hair and old. Oh yeah. And they got me, they got it down to three months because it was bullshit.

And that's when I launched the Taylor Strecker Show. Still the same name on the Patreon relaunch, but I launched it three years ago on this platform called DNR. Right. And it was live radio. It was 8 to 10 a.m. So now we're more of kind of like a prerecorded situation. But so now you just like it's hard. And now you're what, like three years out

from that, like completely rebuilt your own show, moved it to Patreon. Like it's really like, I feel a story of success. And I think it's something a lot of people, especially after this year can relate to just like being so down on your luck and having to just make the best out of what you have. So I'm so excited that you're here. I hope that any toaster who loves this episode will subscribe to Taylor's Patreon. It's premium. I listen to her show all the time. She's insane. Like truly fucking insane.

And I just think it's a great, you know, a moose boosh before the toast. Thank you, girl. Yeah. You guys definitely, the episodes are out like first thing in the morning.

Like if you wake up at five. You're better at that than us. Like we are, we keep with COVID, like we're like 11, 12. I like that. No, no, no. I like that. I have to do it because I'm morning radio. That's like five. Yeah, you're better at that than us. Like we are, we keep, with COVID, like we're like 11, 12. I like that. No, no, no. I like that.

But I have to do it because I'm morning radio. That's like where I'm, I'm like grandfather bear. We're the morning toast and our episodes come out at noon. Like. For millennials. You're more, you're bringing our brunch show. Yeah. But so Taylor is here with us.

We are going to dive into Fast Five, Get Her Takes on all the drums. And because today's Wednesday, we're also going to do Dear Toasters with Five, get her takes on all the drums. And because today's Wednesday, we're also going to do Dear Toasters with Taylor, which I'm actually really excited about. Dear Toasters is our weekly advice segment. And you know, Jackie and I have really lived like the same life. So we kind of have the same feelings about everything. And I feel like you could offer a fresh perspective to some of our toasters in need. As an older, late in life lesbian, I absolutely could. A hundred percent. So I think without further ado, it's time to jump into the Fast Five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast. And today's episode is brought to you by a brand new sponsor that is a toaster-owned business.

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Okay, so this first story kind of has the world shook because anytime Pete Davidson farts, the girls freak out. Yes. So according to page six, Phoebe Dinniver, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, excuse me, was spotted after the Pete Davidson romance rumors. Bridgerton star Phoebe Dinniver has been spotted out and about for the first time since rumors swirled of her potential romance with SNL funny man Pete Davidson. The 25-year-old actress was photographed attending a pre-production meeting

in Greater Manchester, England on Tuesday for her latest project. So there's really no story here other than the fact that she was paparazzi'd, but it's just a platform for me to talk about this relationship and preach about how I feel it's unfair. Okay. So Phoebe is, I actually met Phoebe years ago when probably what, cause I was hosting younger, the after show and she, Oh my God. Yes. She's Josh's girlfriend. Pregnant, right? Yeah. Wait. I always get scared. Yes. Pregnant. I, I, cause I'm so far ahead. I always get scared that I can't say things. Oh my God. but so yeah so so pregnant josh's girlfriend the whole thing she's i forgot she's a total adorable button of a human being you know like i feel like you see people on screen

like they sometimes aren't like they vibe different in person but she holds up like what you see is what you get she is like too cute for words and i I just don't know. Does, I mean, does Pete Davidson have like a magical ding-a-ling? I do not understand. That's what Ariana Grande said. Like she, when she said that about him, I don't know if she, it was intentional or not, but like she made him the most desirable man in America. Do you, okay. So do you think it's the Ariana Grande effect or do you think, I actually know this is crazy.

So back at Sirius, sorry to keep being like an old person back in my day, but back at Sirius, when I had my first rotation of co-hosts, Carly Aquilino from Girl Code. Oh my God, I totally forget about that part of Pete Davidson's life. Yes, yes. She was a co-host.

So I got to know her. She was like every week on with me for like over a year. So I really got to know Carly. I love her. Talk about a button. He's got a type and it's a tiny little miniature person you'd stick in your pocket. With red hair. Yes. And oh, she had that fire

engine red hair, but she's always changing her hair color. She is so cute and so funny. And they were comics. That's how they met. And he started to like really rise up and was like kind of a dick. Oh, but you know what? I've always kind of admired how I believe that they're still friends.

She had a role in King of Staten Island, a small role, which was his movie, which was like, obviously he, you know, wanted to collaborate with her. And even though that's like one of the couples, he's had like so many lives. I forget about like the Cassie David of it all. Totally. Yeah, she was after Carly. She was after Carly. After Ariana Grande, he was like the most desirable man in America, Kate Beckinsale. Like he just had it all yeah and so personally I'm not like a Pete Davidson you know stan I don't

he's not really my type I do understand like the obsession and for me it's just like I don't think it's fair that Lady Bridgerton just like gets to be with Pete Davidson and then also you know Simon from Bridgerton like you can't have it all girl, like leave some for the rest of us. Oh, that's why you're, I'm mad that he keeps getting these girls. It's like, how? In what world? I'm not mad about that. I'm mad that like this one girl, she gets everyone like, let, leave some for the rest of us.

I feel like he, remember when someone said he had butthole eyes, that wasn't nice, but it did make me laugh. It wasn't nice because it's a medical. Then I decided that it made me not laugh again. Right. And it was like a. And I just erased that I said it. No, because what happened was like somebody said it on like a Barstool Sports podcast or whatever.

It was Barstool. And Ariana Grande like replied to that and being like, that is so mean. I believe he has Crohn's and it has something to do with his Crohn's I'm not 100% sure so don't quote me on that but it was like a medical thing and that just that was such a crazy time in the world like when Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande were like the the world was unbalanced I will say I was like obsessed with the fact that I thought he was significantly less attractive than his partners and it made me angry because I felt like it was like a misogynistic I don't know just, just, it really summed up like the world that we live in. Like the King of Queens, like really he gets like Lisa Remini, like that's like, or Leah Remini. It's like, that's not fair. That's a hilarious comparison. Kevin James and Leah Remini. Like I didn't know

where you were going with that. I call it the king of queen syndrome. No, that's actually really good. Like, it just doesn't add up. It doesn't add up. But I will say that. I love Leah Remini, by the way. She's a queen. Over the years, Pete Davidson has very much grown on me.

I definitely think it was the Ariana Grande effect worked for real. I fell in love with that Sweetener album. And then, like, fell in love with their love because I felt like the whole album was about their love. And then three seconds later, she wrote a break about them. I was very confused about timing and publicity and was very distraught. But I actually, I saw that movie. I was on a flight and I watched, um, the King of Staten Island and actually he's fucking awesome. Yeah, no, it was cute. And the thing is with funny guys, it's like, you don't always have to be the most handsome to be the most attractive. Like when you are in comedy, like your personality and your, your wits, like just make you funnier. I mean, sorry, make you cuter.

It's true. But like, does that work for us? Like if I'm really funny, do I get prettier? I'm the funniest bitch alive and I should be like Giselle, but no one's treating me like Giselle. So no, it doesn't work for us. Same. And that's why I'm going to still fight the good fight. Well, Phoebe Denever. Denever? I'm sorry. I don't know how to say her last name. And I said it wrong to her face.

Phoebe D. Phoebe D. Phoebe D. Is literally, she's going to be like the biggest movie star. Like she's going to be like. Ever. Ever. Because she's so gorgeous.

She's so talented. And Bridgerton was so big. And now with this, like, I just, I see big things for Phoebe Dee. Me too. I like Phoebe Dee. I'm rooting for her. She's also set to star in the new Sky original biopic, The Color Room, where she will portray ceramic artist Clarice Cliffon. Never heard of her, but that should be interesting. Interesting. I wonder how much she's getting paid. I know. Like, I mean, she definitely made a lot of money because Netflix pays out the ass, but she was relatively unknown before that, except for younger. She wasn't that recognizable.

I'm really happy for her, but she just needs to... My takeaway here is leave some cuties for the rest of us. Stop taking them all. She's greedy. In the words of Ariana Grande, I'm so greedy. So greedy. All the words of Ariana Grande, I'm so greedy. So greedy. All right, next up. This has to be the dumbest story I've ever heard in my life.

Also from Page Six. The Real Housewives of New York cast is not surprised Bethany Frankel orchestrated her engagement news the same day that their trailer dropped for the new season. You know I hate Bethany, right? I know you do. So I'm here for the story. I'm here for the story. Okay, so this is what page six says.

The Real Housewives of New York aren't putting their happiness on pause for Bethany Frankel's marital bliss. Members of the reality show's current cast were miffed at former member Frankel on Tuesday as they suspected that the skinny girl mogul timed news of her engagement to be released on the same day Bravo dropped the season 13 trailer of Real Housewives of New York. A source is telling Page Six, quote, They were all confused why she's still obsessed with Real Housewives of New York and would orchestrate her engagement news to come out the same time as the trailer for the show. Bethany is just being her petty self, but she can't take away the cast's happiness or how hard they worked during this season during the coronavirus pandemic. However, an insider close to Frankel pointed out that Frankel never confirmed any engagement news herself. The paparazzi took photos and spotted the ring. So I think this is the dumbest story of all time.

I know you hate Bethany, and I really need you to try and take that, like, try and be unbiased here. I can't. Why? Because, like Because like literally Bethany is her own star. She does not need to keep competing. She left the housewives by choice. Like she's not losing sleep. Like, and you know, I could literally hear Ramona, Ramona planted this story. Like I can hear Ramona so vividly in this narrative, like thinking everything's about her. Totally. Here's the thing. I believe Bethany to be a great reality TV personality. I believe her to be very successful and very wealthy and very aspirational. I also believe her to be a monster person with no soul, a dumpster person, if you will. And I believe that I really think that she is a petty person and I think that no matter how famous

she is and how successful she is she's probably constantly torturing herself because she's so competitive and measuring herself on like her actual failures and she might although and I'm with you she left housewives it's not a failure but here's the thing there are some people there that are so dark and I believe her to be one that it's like, even if they choose to leave, they don't want the show to survive because it threatens their ego. Like they need to know that it was then that they are the star. You know, I think there is some of that with her. That's actually a really interesting take. I don't agree, but I'm definitely that type of person. Like if I leave something like it needs to fail, you know? Like,

so you just pinpointed like a character trait in myself that I didn't know. I currently possessed. That's what I'm here to do. I really do think though. I think that there's something with that. And also Bethany is the queen of page six, the queen. I know.

But like, first of all, she was paparazzi. Like, and if you look, she calls them. If you look at her Instagram, her last three photos, she's kind of wearing a ring and you can see it. Nobody pointed it out. She wasn't really hiding it.

I don't know. I don't think that lions don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. Bethany is the lion here, in my opinion. New York is like a floundering franchise. It's still popular, of course, but it hasn't been as popular or as good since she left. I'm going to need you to stop coughing. Like we are doing a podcast. I'm turning my microphone off. Oh, you're turning your microphone off. Okay. Sorry. Okay. No one can hear. I was like, this bitch is literally fucking coughing on my show. Like. I had COVID.

Okay. Okay. Fine. You are living in post-covid life that's fine like fine oh my god i didn't know you were turning your mic down i apologize for reprimanding you no one heard it okay um but back to the story i just don't believe it but you do and that's fine i just think that bethany is like living her best life and And I really don't think she cares. Like she's super popular right now. Like she has all these things going on. Her podcast is widely successful. Um, she has HBO max shows in the, like, she's just like a lot going on. No, she really does. I mean, I, I, I think her success is, um, very admirable. I will give her that a hundred percent. And it's not like the announcement came on premiere day. It literally was the day that the trailer dropped. Like nobody, only like hardcore fans watched the

trailer. It's not, it wasn't this big insult to Ramona. Although I do believe Ramona really sees it that way. I don't think she's lying about how she feels. Oh yeah. Ramona's delusional world is real to her. We've got to take a trip to Ramona's delusional world because it sounds like an amazing place to live. Although Ramona did call it when she said Bethany doesn't support other women. She did. Oh my God, you are such a Bethany hater. I love Bethany.

Did you see my Bethany tweet on my Instagram? Happy International Women's Day to everyone but Bethany. I actually did see that and that was a great tweet, especially coming off the heels of her Meghan Markle stupidity. That was so bizarre. So I have to stand by my word. I actually love how you crack yourself up so much. It's like one of my favorite things about you. I figure if no one else is laughing, I better be laughing. Yeah, no, and it's like all you need to do is hang out with yourself.

Pretty much. Pretty much. Okay, this next story is so bizarre. Have you seen this like viral internet cinnamon toast crunch thing? Okay. I saw something about a meme with Taylor Swift with cinnamon toast shrimp. What's going on? So I don't know about the, what Taylor Swift thing you're talking about, but here's the story. E-news is going to break down the whole cinnamon toast crunch shrimp tail debacle. For anyone who doesn't know, it's like the weirdest thing to happen on the internet. Twitter users are eating up the story of how Jensen Karp unexpectedly found something fishy inside his bag of Cinnamon Toast Crunch. I love a pun.

Oh. The L.A.-based podcaster whose wife is Daniel Fishel from Boy Meets World Topanga. No. Yeah. I've got stories. Oh my God, of course you do. He claimed he found two sugar-coated shrimp tails in his bag of cereal

and has been sharing his disturbing experience with fans on Twitter. On Monday, he posted a picture of what he alleged are pieces of shrimp that he found inside the cinnamon Toast Crunch bag he bought at Woodland Hills Costco in California. Jensen tagged the brand and wrote, um, at Cinnamon Toast Crunch, why are there shrimp tails in my cereal? To prove he was serious, he added, this is not a bit. He wrote, I'm looping in at General Mills because I'm genuinely nervous I will never

eat or sleep again without answers. The Cinnamon Toast Crunch account responded to say, We're sorry to see what you found. We would like to report this to our quality team. They also offered to replace his box with a new one, and he responded, Guys, I'm not sure I'm ready for another box. At this point in the shrimp tale, Seth Rogen entered the chat. The comedian wrote, You win, to which Jensen replied, Seth, define win. Later in the day, the brand announced, after further investigation with our team that closely examined the image, it appears to be an accumulation of cinnamon sugar that sometimes can occur when ingredients aren't thoroughly blended.

We assure you that there's no possibility of cross-contamination with shrimp. However, Jensen was not pleased. He posted two more close-up images of his fishy friends and said, After further investigation with my eyes, these are cinnamon-coated shrimp tails, you weirdos. I wasn't all that mad until you now tried to gaslight me. This post has more than 100,000 likes. Wow. The podcast host mused to his followers,

imagine a universe where I'm like, yuck, these are shrimp tails. Then I reexamined them a few hours later and realized, nope, they are just accumulations of sugar. So now the internet is like in a tizzy looking at these photos. They are 100% shrimp tails.

Like there's no, like you can't convince me otherwise. Are they shrimp tails with, like, a little bit of the meat still in it? Or are they, like, sucked out? No, it's, like, the tail end of the tail. Like, you know, the crisp. The tail end of the tail. It's, like, flaky.

Oh, God. It's really sick. Interesting. I mean, are there any people that don't believe him? If you see a picture, like, you have to believe it. But this guy, I don't know, like, what he does or if he works in comedy, but he's so funny. Like he keeps tweeting at General Mills like he will not let the saga die because he feels like they're gaslighting him. I actually, my first thing was I was like, oh, him and Topanga are looking for some press.

I know. However, right? However, I do, the fact that he used the term gaslighting because there's nothing more frustrating than something happening and then the person that did it to you denying it. It's the worst feeling in the world. And so I actually believe his incessant tweeting

is because he feels so wrong. He feels so gaslight. He's like, Phoebe found the what in her, she found the finger in her. Are you talking about friends? Friends. What did she find? Remember, who found the finger in the food?

Somebody, it was, it was like a, oh, it was like a, I think it was a severed finger and finger in like a Coke or something, a Diet Coke. Okay. Like I've seen every episode of Friends and I have no fucking idea what you're talking about. I mean, sometimes I dream things and make them up and think that they actually happened. So this could be one of those cases, but I swear, I think that there was like a finger one. And didn't she become like a millionaire because like the brand didn't want it like to get out.

There was a finger and the Coca-Cola or something. Are you talking about the show Friends with like Lisa Kudrow and Jennifer Aniston? Yes. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about like the shirt you're wearing. The what? Yeah, like the shirt. The shirt you're wearing.

I'm literally wearing a Friends t-shirt right now. Hello? Phoebe becomes a millionaire? What the fuck are you talking about? No. She ends up like, it ends up falling through like she loses the can or something. You know, some Phoebe thing happens. But like, I swear to God I remember this.

Okay, I have to Google it. Like, what? What is the premise? I feel like we are not speaking the same language. Like, I literally don't understand what you're talking about there was an episode of friends where somebody i think it was phoebe found like an appendage i believe it was a finger and i think it was a diet coke maybe it was a box of popcorn i don't know but it was like a thing okay i don't remember and and if you're right like the friends community is going to come after me because I'm like a friends encyclopedia, but I have literally no, I have no recollection.

That's why I'm questioning myself. Wait, wait, wait. Friends finger episode. There's no such thing. Like I'm telling you. I swear to God. I mean, I'm kind of like somebody like I'm like, I'm like your grandmother. Like I don't really like remember something that somebody has told me yesterday, but like I remember things vividly from has told me yesterday. But I remember things vividly from the past.

Yeah, but I also make things up from the past. I also make things up from the past. Are you finding anything on Google? Because I bet you're not. Friends, the one with the thumb. The one with the thumb. That's the name of the episode. Okay, and what's the premise?

There's also one called Friendly Finger. The one with the font. I'm trying to find Wikipedia. If I'm wrong, I'll be so embarrassed, like dead ass. Phoebe struggles to get rid of all the free money she's receiving, including $7,000 from a soda company when she finds a separate thumb in her drink. Wow. Wow. Fuck.

You're right. It was episode in the third episode of the Friends first season. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Oh my God. The Friends. I might have to delete this part of the podcast because I'm so wrong.

And like, I'm embarrassed because I am the number one Friends fan in the world, but clearly I'm not. You are. I'm actually not. I'm happy for you that you, like, Googled it and you got justice for yourself. That's thinking you edited it out. No, it's literally being edited out right after we hang up.

Okay, so where do I pick up? Well, I don't even know. Oh, we were talking about. Cinnamon toast crunch story. Yeah. Okay. So I feel like maybe he's trying to like, I don't know, like he,

he wants money for what she deserves to get. That's gross. Yeah. No, by the way, there's tons of stories like that. Like, do you remember that hockey player who found a full blown chicken head in his

bucket from Buffalo wild wings? The picture is the crazy, the beak. It's the craziest thing. Don't Google it. It's disgusting. Like there's so many stories like that. Like somebody in Wendy's found a finger instead of a French fry. Like, yep. Oh, so this stuff happens. So, and when it happens, you get paid. Those people get paid. They get paid. So I feel like not only is he expecting them to be like, oh my God, dude, we're so sorry. Like, let's give you a check. Instead,

they start to like deny him his truth. That woulduriate me too yeah no he was looking for his like big money moment and instead he just got gaslit but i i mean i can't believe it's topanga's husband that's for me the wildest i was at her first wedding i was at her first wedding i was at her first wedding and got hammered and like got really weird. I mean, he didn't do anything weird. I got really weird with Jonathan Taylor Thomas because he was there. Okay, wait, start from the beginning. Start from the beginning. Why were you at her wedding? When I went to Cosmo Radio, she came on the show all the time and there was like a point in time where she was talking about like getting her own radio show like in the afternoon. So that's kind of how I got to know her

and she was like into Cosmo Radio like a fan. So she was a fan of my morning show and then also this guy Patrick Patrick who did Stassi. Topanga had like a little mini crush

on Patrick for a moment in time. What an interesting factoid. Yep. And he was one of my very good friends how I met Stassi. Right.

So that's kind of but her and I kind of just like stayed in touch over the years and we like went to the Soho house and had lunch together and we had like the best time we were like kindred spirits I'm like we're best friends and then she invited me and Wasbin my ex-husband to her wedding it was kind of like one of the you like you don't get an invitation you're like oh my god I didn't expect to be invited but this is gonna be the best thing ever literally happened to me yesterday no. No, I just got invited to a wedding

that I just haven't spoken to this person in a really long time. I love them dearly. But you know, COVID changes things. Everyone like I didn't get invited to a bunch of weddings this last year that I probably would have if it were a normal year, which is because of COVID. And it's important for me to say I'm not mad. I actually hate weddings. Yeah. Unless it's like people I love dearly, like family and very, very close friends. I will respond no to most weddings. Like I just don't like going to weddings. But it's just like so nice when someone wants you at their festivity. It's an honor to be invited. It's such an honor. So Wasbin and I got out to LA and we went to the wedding and it was so fun. Where was it? It was, like, downtown L.A. in, like, a huge, like, cathedral space type of thing.

Do you watch Selling Sunset? Yes, of course. I swear to God where Christina, Christine Quinn got married was, like, she got in the newer one. Right. But, like, this was, like, maybe, like, eight years ago. But I swear to God it was the same location. It was, like, a big-ass chapel eight years ago, but I swear to God it was the same location. It was like a big ass chapel. Big ass chapel, indoor, outdoor, like huge cathedral ceilings. Like, you know, like, like colored lights everywhere.

It was like that. And then an, in and out truck came when we were all like wasted and JTT was there and I was like, this is my moment. He is my man. And he did not like it at all. He did not like me. He did not like it. He did not think I was cute, this is my moment. He is my man. And he did not like it at all. Oh, that's upsetting. He did not like me. He did not like it.

He did not think I was cute and or funny. You're not funny. But I've just remembered that night, Wasbin and I were sitting at a table with this very nice lesbian couple from New York City, and I was obsessed with them. Oh, my God. See, you knew early on.

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Okay. Taylor Swift and her mom, Andrea, donate $50,000 to a mother of five who lost her husband to COVID. Taylor Swift and her mom, Andrea Swift, are giving back to a family in need. The 31-year-old singer and her mother gave a joint donation of $50,000 on the GoFundMe page for Vicky Quarles, a mother of five whose husband, Theodos, died of COVID-19 this past summer. The family's fundraising goal was $50,000, and thanks to the Swift's donation, they have surpassed it. Daquanda Smith, the organizer of the GoFundMe page, shared an update from Vicki thanking the cardigan singer and her mother for their generosity. Words cannot express how incredibly grateful I am for all the kind and caring people who have made donations in support of me and my five daughters, she said.

I would like to especially say thank you to Andrea and Taylor Swift for your thoughtfulness and generosity from our home state of Tennessee. She went on to share that the Swifts had sent her a sweet personal note that warmed her heart. The road ahead will definitely not be the same without Theodice, but with each day I am humbled and anchored in hope that I can continue to raise the girls to be as compassionate and caring as all of you. She concluded, thank you so much. So I live for Taylor Swift. Like it's she gave us great news today. I won't go into it because I know you're not a Swifty, but we got great. Are you going to say something? I'm not, not, I mean, I'm not as Swifty as you, but I'm, I love her. I think

she's great. I don't know why I just felt like you hated her. No, no, no. I didn't know her. I wasn't a big fan and I didn't know who she was when I, the first time I interviewed her, but just based on that experience alone, I would be a fan of hers no matter what, forever. She's just, she seems like, I think there's some things that she does that I've not over the years been a hundred percent here for, but overall I think she's like fucking awesome. Okay, good. I'm so glad. I love this story. She gets like, anytime Taylor Swift does something, there's some sort of backlash. And especially when it comes to philanthropy, she always does philanthropy, like very low key. She's not, she just like posted on GoFundMe, like literally put $50,000 on her credit card.

Like she didn't make like a whole big check, you know, local news thing. I just live for her. I think, I mean, this is a terrible story I hadn't heard about. There's millions of stories like this now because of COVID. But a mother of five losing her husband, it's so sad. I love Taylor. I love her mom. I love that they did this.

I love that they did it secretly. And it became a big news story just because like, it literally was on GoFundMe $50,000 from Taylor and Andrea, like just two regular people. So it became a story because it's, it's newsworthy, but not because she's like out, you know, being so like, look what I did. Exactly. No, she's like the real deal. But you know what? The real deal. Even if she was out, I don't mind. Like, I feel like we shame people who are like public with their donations. They're still donating. I know. Well, I mean, I know the whole Kylie Jenner thing.

Well, so that's also what I was going to say. We spoke about that yesterday on the show, coming off the heels of this whole stupid, like, GoFundMe $5,000 thing. Like, it does make Kylie look kind of bad. It does. It does. But I do like there was a part of me when I first read that headline that I was like yeah maybe she should give

him more but like isn't it better to give like let's not like shame people for giving because then it's like because I think that that's a big thing when it comes to especially charity it's like well I'm if I can't give enough I shouldn't give it all it's like no every little bit helps so but also you know Kylie explained herself when I saw the headline too, I'm like, damn, that doesn't look good. But then when Kylie explained herself, she logged on to the GoFundMe. The goal they were trying to hit was 10,000. They already

had 6,000. So Kylie gave five to put them at their limit and like a little bit over. That makes sense. And she just put it on her story to share the news. Like it wasn't this whole conspiracy to get her followers to pay for her ex makeup artists surgery. Like it's so stupid. Like, so that's where like the news makes drama where there's no drama. Yes. No good D goes unpunished. That's the epitome of that.

But I'm really happy to see Taylor getting the respect she rightfully deserves after years of being disgraced by the media. And it's just never, ever, ever a bad time to be a Taylor Swift fan. I love her. I love her. And I love what she did with Scott Borchetta. Fuck you, Scott Borchetta. She really liked you.

Oh, girl. I, yeah. I could, I stan her silently, but I do. I know. And it's just like the bane of my existence is just like realizing the way we talk as a society about Taylor Swift versus how we talk about other artists, mostly male artists. It's so misogynistic. And like, she really is, she is what Ramona Singer would consider a woman who truly supports other women.

She really is. She truly is. She walks the walk. Unless that woman is Kim Kardashian. Oh, well, I mean, you know, those are, those are deep wounds. Yeah. And I can't get into it because it's really like a, a sensitive spot for me. I wrote about it even in my book because available at girl with no job.com slash book. Um, because those are like my two Queens and I just can't even, I can't even, let's just move ahead. If you had to pick, if you had to pick.

Can't literally can't would, would rather like, what, what are my options? Jump off a bridge or I'm jumping. Okay, fifth and final story is news that probably doesn't surprise anyone, mostly me. According to the New York Times, Ellen DeGeneres loses a million viewers after the apology for her toxic workplace. So when Ellen DeGeneres returned from a summer hiatus to open the 18th season of her daytime talk show in September, she came armed with an apology. Quote, I learned that things happen here that never should have happened. She said, I take that very seriously.

I want to say I'm so sorry to the people who were affected, yada, yada, yada. Viewers did tune in for her apology. Her season opener this year had the highest ratings for an Ellen premiere in four years. And then people tuned out. an Ellen premiere in four years. And then people tuned out. Ellen has lost more than a million viewers since September, according to the research firm Nielsen,

averaging 1.5 million viewers over the last six months, which is down from her average of 2.6 million in the same time last year. The decline has come at a time when workplace behavior in Hollywood has come under intense scrutiny against a backdrop of protest and social change. It is a startling step. Okay, New York Times is getting like all, you know, SAT word over here, but.

I can't even read the New York Times. I don't even understand it. No, the first two paragraphs had everything I needed. She went from an average of 2.6 to an average of 1.5. I do have to say, I think overall cable show ratings are going down. I don't know if I would blame all of this on her toxic workplace. Definitely a lot of it, but also take into account that it's been just like a weird year.

People's trends are changing. Cable ratings are, over the last 10 years, always going down, plus this scandal. So I think they're making this a bigger story than it is, but it is interesting to see a million, an average, that's a lot of people. I'm with you. I definitely think that they're kind

of manipulating the statistics to their storyline, which is like, see, she's done because of what she did. But I think it's actually a lot to do with if none of that had even happened, I think the ratings would still be down. Maybe not to this extreme amount, but they'd be down regardless. A hundred percent. But this is just like so clickbaity. But I would love to hear, you know, as a fellow host, like what are your thoughts on the whole Ellen thing? You know, Ellen thing's interesting. And

if I misspeak, I apologize. I think I know a lot, but I know I don't know everything. Okay. You know, it's complicated because I think sometimes like in business, we're different versions of ourselves than we are like personally. Right right and like and and like sometimes you have to be kind of tough in business and it's uncomfortable but like it needs to be done um and also Ellen's very famous and interacts with a lot of people that remember her and she might not necessarily remember all of her interactions also she set herself up by being the be kind girl because like like like then you if you're anything but perfectly kind you're a monster and you're off-brand and you're a liar. So she really, like, there was so much working against her.

But, I mean, listen, some of the stories are horrific. And, like, she, like, it's fucked up to just mistreat people. Like, the waitress who, like, she, like. The nails. Like, sent her food back because of the nails. And, like. I know. It's also fucked up because she literally blamed all of the backlash on, like, the people.

Like, she said it didn't come from her. It was, like, the workplace around her. But it's, like, you know it didn't come from her. It was like the workplace around her, but it's like, you know, it comes from the top. Of course it does. And also that thing too is in her and she sucks at apologizing, which is my least favorite quality in a human being.

I couldn't agree more. And say, you're sorry. Right. So I'm like 50% in and 50% out, if that makes sense. And like, I just feel like I think that we should take it seriously.

But at the same time, like there are so many other egregious things going on around the world and businesses. Like, I mean, hello, Harvey Weinstein. Like Ellen is, I feel like she, people want to cancel her as hard as Harvey. And it's like, yeah, she's a fucking bitch with a bad attitude. But like there is a spectrum of wrongdoing. And I don't think that she's at Harvey's level. Taylor, like this is what we've been saying so much, especially in this last week with, like, the whole David Dobrik scandal.

I don't know if you're caught up on it. I'm not. Whatever. Like, he, you know, all of his sponsors are pulling out, you know, his HBO Max series, his everything. was this investigation done that one of the members of the vlog squad um trigger warning had you know raped someone who was a part of david's vlog david knew about it made jokes about it filmed like was there i don't know it was really toxic and so many people are like david dobrik's a nice guy like this is cancel culture i'm like actually no this is like a full-blown crime like this is not at all there is a hundred percent of a spectrum.

And I agree like, okay, is Ellen the nicest person in the world? No. Should, you know, should she go to jail? No, she's just a mean person. And even though it's not, that's not a crime. Exactly. And you know how many, and I hate to go here, but you know how many fucking guys are assholes in Hollywood?

And it never, he's just a man in charge of his career god forbid a woman pushes back you know well again I want to say I do think Ellen's an extra contusaurus I totally agree I do think that like there's so many guys who you know my favorite example with fear my favorite example is Alec Baldwin. Like he just skated by and no one ever questions, like there are so many crazy things. First, the voicemail, you know, calling his daughter a pig or whatever. And they know that's personal. Okay. Whatever. The beating up the paparazzi, being mean to everyone. And it's like, he's still the toast of Hollywood. He's on SNL. Like everyone loves him. This whole hilarious scandal. He's just like untouchable. That would never happen to a woman.

Never, never in a million years. So that's a good point. Yeah. So those were the past five stories. And I feel as though you needed to know them. I feel much more well-rounded. Me too. So before I let you go, it's Wednesday.

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Okay. Here's the sitch. My wedding was supposed to be last October, but we postponed it to this year because of COVID. I ended up having a small ceremony last year to make it official, but we are still having the big celebration in the fall. One of my bridesmaids has been hooking up with my college ex since January and just told me about it. I've known her since preschool and I was obsessed with him from seventh grade through senior year of college. They both went to the same college, if that's even relevant. I don't want to throw away the friendship, but the more I think about it, the more mad and betrayed I feel. Talk about RDH.

Even my husband agrees that I should be mad. Why is it now on me to forgive and move on when she could have just not done this? My question is, should I hash it out with her and let it go? I need your help. This is tough because weddings, you have to make life decisions

because your wedding is one of the biggest days of your life. Yes. But if you're getting married, why do you really care? Unless you're like me like one of the biggest days of your life. Yes. But if you're getting married. Like why do you really care? Unless you're like me and get divorced. Then it doesn't matter. Right. The thing is it's like.

If you're getting married. Like why do you really care? Well this is a thing. I mean listen. It's tough. Because you kind of don't get dibs. Like once you've moved on. But there's also kind of girl code.

That it's like. Just because something doesn't work out. With a guy. Doesn't mean like. If I had a friend date. Like there's an ex of girl code that it's like just because something doesn't work out with the guy doesn't mean like if i had a friend date one of them like there's an ex-boyfriend of mine like if one of my friends dated him i'd be like that is so fucked up like because he's just mine forever even though i don't want him anymore and i'm a lesbian i don't even want that that dick it's like he is not he's not yours you do not get to go near him um this is tough i mean the thing is it's like i can't really relate to this because Ben was my first boyfriend like I don't really have like

exes you know right which is so weird I do and so I'm gonna like I'm gonna let this girl know I mean like we shouldn't say this

but we're allowed to feel it like you're allowed to feel pissed off at this especially I don't know listen I don't agree I know sisters where

the one sister was dating a guy. The other sister had dating him secretly behind the back. That's disgusting. Because they were just a hookup. And then the sister married the guy. So, girl. Imagine having had sex with your sister's husband. I'm not 100% sure if the first sister had sex with the husband.

But I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. That's sick. It's just wild. But I remember the older sister would always say, well, he's my soulmate. And that was the argument. That makes it acceptable.

And I always remember thinking, there's plenty of fish in the sea, though, no? Yeah, no, the sister thing is weird. That's not the same. But I don't know. I feel like once you get married you kind of relinquish like and i feel like if that if that were ben and he was like mad at his friend for dating his ex i would literally slap him so hard across the face like

the disrespect you can't admit it to anybody the disrespect yeah she definitely can't tell her husband how she feels but she said she did did. And her husband agrees with her. Like it is wrong. Oh. There's weird things here. I like their relationship. It sounds like her and her husband like are, you know, real team players. Yeah. And they're like so transparent.

He supports her even in her crazy thoughts that could hurt his feelings. But he's like, fuck my feelings. I love you. She has a great future ahead of her. That's what I'm saying. Like, look at your husband. He supports you even when you're being crazy. Like, focus on that. That's amazing. You got the right guy. I agree. That's the message here. Okay. Next up. Dear Jackie and Claudia. Well, Claudia and Taylor. I listen to your show every day. Never thought I'd be writing in for

some sisterly advice from my sisters. A couple of weeks ago, I noticed my boyfriend of four years acting weird, avoiding eye contact, going to bed early, et cetera. When I confronted him about it, he nearly broke down in tears and told me he had something to confess. After about 20 minutes of trying to get it out of him, he told me that earlier this year at my dad's 80th birthday party, he and my brother went upstairs and ended up having sex, full blown sex. I was alarmed on multiple levels. One, my boyfriend is straight, who has never expressed interest in other men. Two, I couldn't believe that he would be so disrespectful to do this in my family's house. And three, the betrayal for my own brother may

just be the most devastating part. Oh, this is going to break my heart. My brother knows that this is the man I want to marry. We've been together since college, and he's basically a part of the family. I've yet to confront my brother about this. I'm nervous, scared, heartbroken. I don't know how I can get past the betrayal of this magnitude from a family member, but I'm also not prepared to have a broken relationship with my only brother who I've always been very close with. My boyfriend and I have decided to stay in our relationship and work through this, but I don't know if I can ever have them in the same room again. I feel like this is going to change the dynamic of my family forever. Should I even bring this up to my brother or just continue life as usual pretending I don't know this happened?

I don't want to fracture. I don't want to fracture my family over a drunken mistake. Thank you. Wow. You are, are you motherfucking Teresa? Yeah. How is she being so logical about this?

I would be, I mean, I would, I threw my sister into the shower and broke the door over a pair of Uggs. So what do you think I'd do to my brother if this were the case? No, I would go ham. Like there's so many things I want to unpack here, but I feel like the first that maybe you maybe are avoiding is like, I feel like now that it's kind of out in the open, like you and your I feel like now that it's kind of out in the open, like you and your boyfriend should have a conversation about where you stay,

where he stands in his sexuality. Cause that's important for you to know. Yes, absolutely. Because I think that there is a closeted, hello, me, closeted community of the gay community where it's like,

you're in such denial that it's almost like, well, it doesn't even count. Cause it's not like I'm cheating on her with another girl. And it's like, well, like, and listen,

if you're okay with an open relationship, that's totally cool. But like, you need to really understand at length what you're signing up for, for a future with this guy. Because, you know, there is something to be said for,

is he bisexual? Is he, you know, actually gay? Um, I just want you to make sure that you're not signing away your life to something that's like, it's, it's not, you're not both seeing it from the same perspective where it's like a half-assed relationship because there's a part of him that he's hiding or that he doesn't

even, you know, it doesn't have the courage to work through yet. He might be scared to come out. Coming, I know from experience coming out, it's really scary. So, but the fact that he had sex with your brother, who I think is out as gay, Well, that was not confirmed, but I have to assume. Okay. I'm going to make the assumption is, girl, that's wild. I'm too close, but I'm shooketh. I would like to shift your perspective a little bit because in her writing to us, she said, I don't want to fracture my family over a drunken mistake.

And I don't know if I would belittle it down to a drunken mistake because it's so much more than that. It's so layered. It's your brother. And I do think like you need to put equal amounts of effort into working this through. Like this is going to be really uncomfortable, like for a, for a while, but you don't give up on family. And if you're willing to work through this with your boyfriend, then you should be more than willing to work through it with your brother. Um, it's going to be really awkward, but I really feel

like you should be hurt. It'll bother you your whole life. Like you, this something you get over. The thing though is I feel like she's so considerate about everybody else's feelings. Like girl, what about your feelings? Oh my God. That's a great point. Like you didn't once say like anything about yourself here. Like this is, this is actually like a really heartbreaking for everyone. Like I can imagine how difficult it is for her boyfriend, like maybe struggling with these feelings, how difficult it is for her to get caught in the middle. But the only person I don't feel bad for is the brother. Yeah. The brother, the brother's really, you're, and also listen, I'm not, I'm not saying I

believe in like breaking up families, but you're allowed to get mad at your family when they disrespect you. Your brother really disrespected you. I kind of feel like your boyfriend did too. Yeah. Um, a hundred percent. And, and, and a drunken mistake is like your boyfriend goes out and hooks up with somebody that's a stripper, right? That's a drunken mistake.

This is like, you know, this is, there's so much betrayal from so many angles and I don't know how you're so calm. Like I am being, I'm being dead ass when I say this, I really want you to find a couple's counselor for you and your boyfriend and or your own counselor because you are so um ready to just push down your own feelings on this like you need to you need to like use this opportunity like you've been very wronged by very many people that you trust and like you deserve to like live in your feelings and you're so concerned about not breaking things up what nobody was concerned about you 100 that's such good advice like look out for number one here yeah look out for yourself i mean yes family's important relationship's important but

you your relationship with yourself i am so like woo right now but it is the most you're 100 and if like also you set a precedent with people being able like with your boundaries and you like have none if this is if you're like we're just gonna like act like nothing happened it's like oh my god girl that is gonna cut to you at 50 with like a martini at eight in the morning like you know like and all the pills it will eat you up like i promise you what we were talking about so deal with it now and know like i mean i know i'm like who am i but like i fucking have your back 110 like i I'm pissed for you. That's so sweet. No, I'm serious for her. I feel like this was a great submission for you

because you kind of can speak to that experience. Yeah, I can. Like, listen, I definitely was suppressing that I was a lesbian, gay, whatever. I had no inkling whatsoever. And then when I met my now fiance, I was like madly like horny in love with her. And I was like, uh-oh, something's happening. This is how it should be. Exactly. And that's when I was like, Oh yeah,

checks. I hated Dick. I like her not Dick. I guess I am a lesbian, but like it can be. So I have an empathy for struggling with sexuality. I've lived it, but like I didn't hook up with my free pass to hurt other people exactly it doesn't okay so i would love i would love to hear an update um if you work this out and i'm really wishing you the best um on to our final submission dear claudia and taylor first of all i listen to y'all every day i want to thank you for making my pregnancy during a pandemic more bearable my husband and i have been together for about six years now. When we first started dating, I met his mom almost immediately and we totally hit it off. There was some weird only child, only son stuff going on, but I didn't

think much of it. Well, I immediately, well, immediately after we got engaged, she went full on bonkers, kept trying to plan everything, even tried to make our registry for us before we even set a wedding date. I told her politely that I really wanted our registry to be a thing we did together as a couple. And she called my husband asking if he was sure he wanted to marry me after the wedding. Yeah. After the,

I just read a book called the mother-in-law. Like it's too pertinent after the wedding. After the wedding, she sent me a text saying that I was passive aggressive and manipulative. She called to tell me that I would never come between her and her son, and I was selfish to think that my wedding day was only about me. Oh, my God. I'm so PTSD. She also left me out of his grandmother's obituary, post-marriage, et cetera.

She's just the worst, but my husband consistently makes excuses for her, so I just try to grin and bear it. Flash forward to this year. I'm pregnant and we're planning to move to a city two hours away for his job. She naturally decides to leave her husband, not my husband's dad, and move to the city as well. No! She said it had nothing to do with us. One week

after moving in, I hear from my husband's aunt that she is telling everybody that I am horrible to her and she wishes her son had married his ex-girlfriend. Seriously? What the fuck? The weird thing is she's consistently texting me nice things and asking if I want to hang out. Her reasoning is that I never want to hang out with her and that's why she said it. My problem is that I cannot stop letting it consume me. I talk and think about it all the time.

It's just so upsetting. And she wants to take care of my daughter and I'm trying to do the mature thing and let her when all she wants to. Wait. I'm trying to do the mature thing and let her when all of me wants to be withholding help yes signed an obsessive toaster p.s despite how it may sound in the letter my husband is a precious gem of a man and very supportive he just wants us to find a middle ground yeah i mean at the end of the day the relationship between a wife and a mother-in-law

is 100 incumbent on the husband. And a husband has to take that role of being the communicator, the, the, the moderator, like, and if he, and he might be a precious gem of a man, but he has to take that role very seriously because the key to successful relationship with your mother-in-law is having you tell your husband something or your, your partner and your partner telling the mother-in-law, like that's how it works. Oh yeah. You, no, no yeah you know he sets the boundaries with her not you and guess what you need more boundaries yeah so again i'm going to say get couple therapists for real no or just communicate openly like you need to have a full infrastructure in place like

when you have a toxic mother-in-law which i am so thankful i have like an angel of a mother-in-law so i don't have advice per se you know know, from experience, but I do know that like when it comes to in-laws never have direct communication, especially when it's like about something hostile. I had toxic in-laws and I always say this. I mean, there was other factors like me being a lesbian, but I really didn't know that. I really didn't know it. I swear to God, I did not know that like husband and I would have gotten divorced regardless of me being with Taylor Donahue. So that's the truth. And I know his sisters love that I'm a big old lessee because they get to be like, she

was gay the whole time. But the truth is, and I said to him when we got divorced, honey, we are getting divorced because I can't with your family. It's not about the whole lesbian thing. And I really said to him, I didn't even know I was going to hook up with a girl when we were getting a divorce. But I just, I really was like, because I wanted him to know, I didn't even know I was going to hook up with a girl when we were getting a divorce, you know? But I just, I really was like,

I, cause I wanted him to know, I was like, this is not you, but you need to find somebody who either your family fucking fully like adores and fits in with them, or you need to start working on how you're not going to repeat the same mistakes that you made in this relationship.

Like I understand I am so hard hit. It's not like a mother-in-law, a sister-in-law, a father-in-law. It doesn't matter what in law, but a family member that's like toxic, it can be really hard on your relationship. And again, you sound so amazing. You know, you're sticking up for your husband and I, you listen, my parents, my, my, my dad, my paternal grandmother, my dad's mom was really mean to my mom. I grew up watching it and my parents are still together. So it's

absolutely survivable yes um even though i ran away um like a little scared bitch but i will say it's it is not easy and the fact that she moved that's fucking that's next level like that's like a level 10 mother-in-law issue he just needs to say to her he needs to figure out a way to like get a receipt and then be like mom you can't talk about my wife like this she doesn't talk about you like this yeah and i'm sure he's lovely and supportive but he has to be a little bit more um i hate to use the word but like confrontational and and she'll yeah she'll respect it coming from him but it's she's made it very clear she doesn't respect you so your husband is now in charge i'm sorry but that's how it has to

work she has to be and yeah he has to let it be clear that in order to be a part of your like family life, your nuclear family, she has to treat you with more kindness and respect. And that's the bottom line. And if she can do it, then it's all good. And if she can't do it, then there's going to be problems. It's really simple. Balls in her court. Wise words from Taylor Strecker. Taylor. I've lived. By the way, that was Dear Toasters. If you ever want to write in feel free to email us deartoasters at gmail dot com we will always keep it anonymous write in about anything

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