The Toast - S4 Ep75: Justice Timberblake: Monday, April 26th, 2021
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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. That feels so good to say,
as does, hey, Claude, how you doing?
It feels so close to you right now. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. For you, Jackie,
I've been here for a while, but it's so great to have you back. I mean, I did love Friends
and Family Week at the Morning Toast, I did. But there's nothing like, you know, podcasting
with a gal. No, there's nothing like it. When I first left for my retreat,
I was very much looking forward to getting a break from the toast, but I have to be honest,
I'm so happy to be back. I need to give a little update why it's podcast only and where we're at
right now. There's just been a crazy turn of events. You guys, the wellness retreat was so
fabulous that I decided to extend a few
days because I just felt like I had more wellness. Your work was not done. My work was not done. And
so I vlogged my entire first week of the wellness retreat. It's pretty detailed and I just posted
it to Patreon. So if you watch the vlog, you'll understand like sort of the genesis of emotions.
You know, I got there, I was so like nervous and awkward. I barely remember that girl.
First day jitters.
First day jitters.
But then over the week, like I really blossomed like a flower
and I'm just really having a great time.
I feel very well.
I feel like I'm doing everything that I wanted to do
and I just wanted to do a little bit more of it.
So we will be doing remote audio this week
while I just finish out my time here.
And the program is really meant to be two weeks.
I learned once I got here.
So there's still more things for me to do while I'm here.
And I'm able to work and do the toast with this like newfound perspective.
Would you say you have a newfound joie de vivre?
I would say it's exactly that.
Like I have so much energy and I'm working out so much and I'm eating well.
And I just, I feel really good. And I also, I want to do the toast while being here so that I can bring
that to the show. Okay. Well, I did have a programming update that I actually forgot to
update you on as well, is that Ben is free tomorrow to come in studio with me. So we will
have a YouTube episode tomorrow with Ben because Ben was supposed to do every episode with me last
week. And then just like his schedule changed and then Taylor Strecker like was available. So it ended up being great.
I had a robust lineup of co-hosts, but the people wanted more Ben because we promised them more Ben.
So he is committing to the craft and he is coming to studio with me tomorrow. So YouTube, we're
going to play it, you know, by ear day by day, but tomorrow we will have a YouTube episode with the
one and only Ben Soffer. That's good. I'm excited for everyone because everybody loves a Blanche episode so much.
I'm like a little sad for me because he's coming for my job.
Big time.
He's coming for your couch.
He is coming for my couch.
But you know what?
This week, I'm happy to share it.
And I'm happy to come at you audio only.
Like, I really have unplugged so much last week.
This week, I'm plugging back in.
But everything that went down last week, like week I'm plugging back in, but everything that went down
last week, like in the pop culture, in the pop culture, I like haven't watched, I haven't even
turned my TV on once since I've been here. So I've really been out of the loop. I spent the morning
catching up on what's been going down. So I'm really looking forward to getting into these
stories. Like I've truly missed taking a bite of the morning toast. I'm not going to lie.
And I'm also just excited to like start this Monday off with you so we can just like catch
everyone up.
I mean, I was out of studio Thursday and Friday.
You've been gone for a week.
Like the people, honestly, like I know you were unplugged.
I was not.
And the people were like, where is Jackie?
Like you kind of just like bounced with no kind of, you know, explanation.
Like there will be no explanation.
There will only be wellness retreat pretty much. Like that's how you bounced. And I don't think people thought like
you were going to be unplugging. You didn't just give us like an update or anything. So I was kind
of, you know, not to make it about me, but I was really like the vessel in which people were
communicating, you know, through you. And I just like, can you update everyone? Like you did not
end up, you know, getting, you know, brought into a cult no it's all good it's all good and there were a few times like where I wanted to like
update people but I didn't really have anything to say like hey guys I'm here all's well so I did
need you to be my spokesperson and let everyone know that like things were going really well for
me like so well that I didn't feel the need to be on my phone. My screen time was down 30% last week. I just got, I just got those numbers in. Those, those figures are
astounding. Those figures are astounding. My iPad screen time, 0%. Well, yeah, of course,
because your iPad is for the toast. No, I know. But if I had like wanted to watch a movie or
something, I probably would have used my iPad. So anyways, just screens were down. And I feel like
I did give everyone warning, like the weeks leading up to the, to the retreat, I was like, I'm going away,
I'm unplugging. Like, and then I did it. And I just don't think people expected that I would do
it in such a serious, that I would take it so seriously. You know, like I always say I'm going
to unplug, but like, I literally never take the cord out of the wall, you know? No, I do know.
It's just, I'm weirdly so busy here and productive.
And when I have free time, I've been trying to read.
But even this, like I started a new book on the plane here
and I still haven't finished it.
That's how little free time I've had.
It's never taken me so long to read a book in my life.
Speaking of books, I decided to take the Redheads recommendation
for the best book of 2020.
And on my trip, I started on the plane and I finished it like two days later. I started before We Were Strangers by Renee Carlino,
which was the Redheads top pick. It beat me out in the bracket for Redheads Madness.
Yes. You had to see what it was all about. What were your thoughts?
You know, it was really good. I loved the story. It was very sweet and easy read i was surprised that it was the top choice um
just because have you read any colleen hoover books for redheads yes we read we read leila
but it's not your typical colleen hoover oh you also read verity right no not no not for redheads
oh no it was really good it was really good i was i was surprised that it was the top pick
because i but i gave it five stars like it was really good. But we've all read it. It was really good. I was surprised that it was the top pick, but I gave it five stars.
It was really good.
I was just surprised.
Yeah, because you were expecting your world to be totally rocked.
Yeah.
You have to remember where we came at it from was this was Snitch's first choice.
She chose this sort of random book that no one, it wasn't really, I don't think any of
the redheads had already read it.
And so we were just so pleasantly surprised by it, whereas you're coming in from the opposite angle where there's so much hype around it.
Yeah, that's true. And then I started another Renee Carlino book that I'm hating.
Which book?
I don't know what it's called, but it's about an author who reads a book about her own life
or whatever, you know?
That sounds good.
It's so confusing. Like I can't even explain how much I'm not liking it.
I understand. Well, I'm glad that you're keeping abreast with the redheads. You know,
it's never too late to keep abreast. It's so never too late. Like I can't stress that enough,
you know? Cause like, look at me, I'm so late, but I'm not. You're like a year late, but.
But I'm right on time. Right on time. Um, did you have any inclination to listen to the redheads episode
after you read the book you know i should do that duh you should and you know it's sometimes that
might make you like the book more yeah it's a not with before we were strangers but some of the other
like more dense books that we've read after like discussing it and debriefing it especially hearing
dana's perspective where she pretty much like explains what the book actually meant to do
um you tend to like it more.
Have you read It Ends With Us?
No, should I?
Oh my God.
Okay, so I read it because Counselor obviously forced me to read it.
And now I've been like recommending it to everyone.
And I think I've ended up on BookTok because like I'm such a reader now.
And it's like the TikTok community has like regarded it as like the number one book to make you cry. It's like in everyone's, you know, here are the five books that made me cry this month.
And it's always, it's so stunning, Jackie.
And I think a lot of the toasters have read it because it's an old, I'm way behind on
the trends, obviously, yet again.
Okay.
I will add it to my list.
I don't know when I'll read it.
It won't be today.
But I'll get around to it eventually.
Of course.
I try to get around.
When someone profusely recommends a book, I try to respect them by reading it.
No.
And also, it tells you a lot about a person when they insist that you read a certain book.
Well, okay, if I'm going to, like, insist.
Well, you recommend every book to me, so every book that I love you've already read,
so this is, like, the only one I have over you, you know?
No, but, like, that's just, then it's just an exchange of books, and that's like, so fun. We're just like two bookworms exchanging knowledge. 100%. Like this is
turning into an episode of the redheads. Oh my God. No, please. Excuse me. No, I just don't
like want to be like, cause I know what it feels like to like not be into reading and then having
people talk about it. And like, this is like a pop culture show and people who don't read are
like, Oh my God, fast forward 15 seconds ahead, 15 seconds ahead, 15 seconds ahead.
Okay. But if I may, conversely, like you were one of those people, like you actually were the team
captain and it's like, if the captain could be converted, like maybe, maybe there's something
there. No, I don't know if you guys haven't learned this about me yet. Like I'm constantly
evolving and changing my opinions based on new information. And I feel like that is really, I think, one of our core principles of our brand here at
The Morning Toast.
Like, normalize just, like, saying things and then, like, disagreeing with them two
days later, you know?
No, 100%.
Like, did you ever think, like, when we started this show that it would take me to a wellness
retreat?
I definitely don't think that that's the craziest
thing ever. Like you've been on this in one way or another, you've been on this like journey of
slowing down for the last like four years, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I guess. I guess I do. I
don't know. I just feel like a wellness retreat is like such an extreme measure. Oh, it is. But
you are so extreme. I'm so, thank you. I'm so extreme.
You are an extremist.
Like you're crazy.
I don't do anything halfway.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh my God, your face is so red.
I know this like light that's in front of me
is already making my face red.
And now like I'm laughing and blushing
and I'm a tomato.
Well, you might be on a wellness retreat
and have like a day of like wellness ahead of you.
But like I have a day of opening all the boxes
that have arrived in my house since I left on Wednesday
and unpacking me and Ben's stuff.
Like I have the worst day ahead of me.
So like if you want like we could podcast for seven hours
just so I don't have to go run my errands.
Yeah, no, but you know, sometimes self-care looks like hard work because imagine how you'll feel
at the end of the day. That is so true. And I'm actually like looking forward to like having a
clean, full home. And like, I actually have so many products that I ordered, um, that like are
in those boxes that I'm really looking forward to. I'm not like dreading it that much, but the
unpacking is like really giving me agita, especially because I already have a full hamper of laundry like from before when I left, you know?
Oh, I do know.
It's dark.
It's a big day.
But you had a great weekend.
So that's the price you pay.
I did.
For just like for neglecting your responsibilities.
100%.
But it was worth it because I really had a fabulous – I had the anti-obviously wellness weekend.
I had a weekend just like full of bender like activities.
I was just like drinking a lot.
But it was great.
Like I got to see one of Ben's best friends got engaged.
So they had like a very small celebration, but it was so nice just to like dance in the
moonlight.
Like I was literally dancing under a full moon and it was like stunning.
And I don't think I ever would have had like an appreciation for the fact like I just so
appreciated like a dance floor. Do you know what I what I mean oh I do know what you mean and also like
shout out to the full moon that's happening right now shout out that's been a really beautiful moon
and what's crazy about a full moon it's like it's not specific to just us like on the east coast like
the whole world experienced that fullness no that's like literally yeah no wait that doesn't
sound right because half the world like looks another way no I that's like literally. Yeah. No, wait, that doesn't sound right. Cause half the world like looks another way. No, I, I, that's like that scene in sex in the city when like
Steve and Miranda are fighting, but he calls her on a payphone. It's like, Hey, just look out the
window right now. And it's a full moon. And that's when Miranda knows, like, she's like, Hey, come
by after work. And then it's like, you know, the beginning of the end. That's like, that's like
this movie that I watched. It's probably where I got the idea where it's like, I forgot what movie,
but it was like a mother and son. It's like, if you look at the moon, like, that's like this movie that I watched. It's probably where I got the idea where it's like, I forgot what movie, but it was like
a mother and son.
It's like, if you look at the moon, like just know I'm looking at the same moon.
It connects.
If it's the same moon, it must be full for everyone.
It connects people.
Yes, it connects people.
Stunning.
So tonight, take a look at your full moon and then say, I love the morning toast.
Yeah, no, just, and then like go subscribe and leave a five star review about how beautiful,
stunning and smart we are. Yeah, no, just, and then like go subscribe and leave a five star review about how beautiful, stunning and smart we are. Yeah. And then check out our Patreon channel because I just dropped
my wellness retreat vlog. It really has like so much information about where I am, what I'm doing.
And you do see the evolution of my expectations. Yeah. And you know what, as a viewer, I felt calm
watching it, you know, like looking that stunning sunset on your way
home from dinner. Stunning. Stunning. And I was just brought peace like you and your cat fix.
Like there was just like so much wellness oozing out that like, I think it affected me.
I'm so glad to hear that. But also I just wanted to say to you, like you had a weekend where you
said like you weren't, you were unwell, whatever, but like wellness also looks different for
everyone else. And I do think for you, like a weekend of like fun in the sun, dancing in the
moonlight, taking shots, like that's your version of wellness. A hundred percent. And I actually
don't even feel that bad right now, which is shocking. Giving like I flew in at midnight last
night on a plane that was just riddled with torture. Like I can't, I never fly JetBlue ever,
but TPG actually says when he's asked like,
what do you think is the best domestic airline in the States? He always says JetBlue and he has
good reasons. They have free wifi. They have that little snack cabinet. It's just like a modern
airline. And I just did not have that experience last night. Like, first of all, I think they
decided to put all the most annoying people on one plane. Do you know what I mean? Like the plane was just filled with annoying people. Like
everyone was talking so loud and every single person was on the phone till the second we hit
10,000 feet. Like everyone was just talking like the woman behind me, her kids, mayor and Esther
had to go to bed at nine with the babysitter. Literally the guy on the right just bought a
new property for $1.5 million. He thinks they'll sell it for a year, collect rent, and then sell it at the top of the market. I knew what was going
on in everyone's life. They were just such yentas on the plane. Everyone just chat, chat, chat, chat,
chat. And it was just so fucking annoying. And I can't explain why it was riddled with torture,
this whole journey home, but me, Ben, and Margo wanted to die. Like when we got off the plane, Ben was like, I literally feel we just like, we just landed like a 13 hour flight from Israel when it was a two and
a half hour flight from Fort Lauderdale. Like it was not even crazy. It was just torture. I will
never fly JetBlue again. And I cannot explain why to you. I really, I can't put it into words.
Okay. Um, I really liked JetBlue. So I'm going to wait till I have my own torturous experience,
but I will say flying on a Sunday night from Florida to New York is going to be jam-packed.
And it's going to be like Yenta Central, you know?
Yenta Central.
Yeah, and if you don't know what a Yenta is, it's a Yiddish word for just like a gabbing gossip girl.
Like, I'm a Yenta, but like in public, I know how to tone it down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is the morning Yentas.
Like, that's what we do, but not on an airplane.
We don't host an episode of The Morning Toast on an airplane.
I was literally just being bombarded by audio.
And it was just killing me because it was also 10 o'clock.
Like, I was so tired.
I'm like, go to sleep.
Go to sleep.
But do you think that Mayer and Esther went to sleep?
I hope so.
And, you know, I was actually listening.
And I'm like, did she say Mayer and Esther?
Because those are, like, that's my best friend's parents' names.
And then I realized she was talking about their bedtime.
So she wasn't talking about Mayer and Esther, like my friend's parents.
That's hysterical.
But maybe she was.
You never know.
Yeah.
So that was my journey home.
And I'm just looking forward to a great week.
I'm feeling good on this Monday.
I feel like we're going to have great episodes this week.
And there's so much to catch up on.
I cannot wait to talk to you about all the dramas.
I can't wait to talk to you. There's so much to catch up. And I'll just give one more just like quick plug because I don't want to spend the whole time
talking about the retreat. So you and I are going to do a Patreon episode Q&A where everyone,
if you have a question about the retreat, put it in Toast After Dark. We'll do a master post
so I can answer all of your questions if you still have more, which I'm assuming that you do.
There's just so much to discuss.
So that's patreon.com slash a morning toast.
New vlog is already up.
Wellness Q&A coming soon.
And now I think without further ado, it is time for the fast five stories that you need
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Okay, first story, big story of the weekend.
The Real Housewives All-Star cast has jetted off to start filming.
The Real Housewives are getting ready for a wild ride.
The upcoming All-Star crossover series is set to feature fan favorites Ramona Singer and Luann de la Sebs of Real Housewives of New York City,
Teresa and Melissa of Real Housewives of New Jersey,
Kenya and Cynthia from Real Housewives of Atlanta,
and Kyle Richards from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
The ladies started teasing the season over the weekend and posting photos in preparation for their adventures
after they reportedly all met in Atlanta to jet off to Turks and Caicos.
So we've been hearing about this potentially happening for a while.
Now it's happening.
We have the cast.
It's a little bit smaller and more pared down than I had expected.
And apparently that's because they were having a hard time finding a house in Turks and Caicos.
The ones that they found, the biggest one had seven bedrooms,
so they could only invite seven women.
And this is who they chose.
I want to hear your thoughts.
I mean, I just think it's so funny how like this is a show.
It's allegedly a show about like rich women, you know?
And I've never seen more people take photos on a private plane than I have Melissa, Luann, and Ramona.
Because they flew together from Teterboro to Atlanta, which is where they all met.
And then they all flew together.
And it's like Kyle Richards who like takes a private plane like every day. It's like,
so not a big deal. She goes to work in her private plane, like took like one selfie and that's how
people knew she was on her way. Like it just, the whole travel thing did make me laugh. But besides
that, I am excited. I'm not, there's, I'm conflicted on the cast, honestly, but I do think regardless,
this is going to be
iconically hysterical.
Like we know Ramona Singer does not play well with others when literally the premise of
the show is to play with others.
So it's going to be very, very interesting and they've never done something like this.
So I'm very interested to see how it pans out and if this is something they could do
more.
I just, I wouldn't have chosen a lot of the people they chose.
Yeah, but I don't know who's missing.
I don't know what I would have added, but it does feel, I mean, if wouldn't have chosen a lot of the people they chose. Yeah, but I don't know who's missing.
I don't know what I would have added, but it does feel, I mean, if we have to stick with seven people, I do think that they chose a very strong seven, but it would have been
nice to have like kind of some less OGs because when everyone is such an icon.
Exactly.
It's kind of like, you know, I don't know.
It's hard to explain.
It's like you need people who are different
personalities not everyone can be the star no and people who are icons feel as though especially
people who are ogs feel as though like this franchise is theirs ramona feels that way we
know theresa judas feels that way nini leaks felt that way um so it makes the dynamic difficult
because they all think that they're better than each other. And that's like kind of what we saw almost at like Andy's baby shower.
Like so many of the women who like Lisa Vanderpump didn't go, Bethany Frankel didn't go because
they think it's like their franchise and they're too good to hang out with other housewives.
And so I think a lot of these women think they're too good to hang out with other housewives.
Yeah.
I feel that.
Don't sign up for a special that makes you hang out with other housewives.
Right.
No, but there, but okay.
So say you take seven icons and put them in a house together.
Like it's iconic.
Like what is it's iconic.
What is going to happen?
I don't really know.
People are just like,
like waiting with bated breath for every detail that emerges from this.
Like,
I don't know why I'm not like that excited as,
as excited as like I should be for like a housewives watcher.
I don't know why.
Sometimes it just feels like some of these things, it's, it's too much of a good thing.
And I do think that's how things get ruined.
But I'm like, I of course will be watching this.
I don't know.
I just, I do feel like it's, it's overload.
I agree.
And I'm excited.
I think that we need to see how it pans out.
I don't think we can judge whether it's going to be amazing or whether it's going to be
too much of a good thing until we see like a piece of footage. I, oh, I totally
agree. And I'll be watching the whole show. I'm just saying that's like my initial thought, thought
and just a little bit of concern. I, I hear that completely. I'm, I actually am a quaking to just
see how they choose rooms because we know it's a huge point of contention in New York with Ramona.
And I just know that she bombarded her ass into that house and took the best room. because we know it's a huge point of contention in New York with Ramona. And
I just know that she bombarded her ass into that house and took the best room. I just know it.
Yeah. But like, is Kyle going to stand for that? Is Kenya going to stand for that?
No, that's why. Like, this is going to be a really interesting dynamic. It's just like
seven alpha females in a room. What can go wrong? Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know how that dynamic,
how that plays out. Thanks a lot, Ramona. Thanks a lot. Yeah. Apparently they're also not filming
for very long. So I think this will be over soon. Hopefully we'll be watching it shortly. And I,
if it's really good, I'm assuming they'll do it again. Hopefully, yeah. With like a different group. Yeah.
So we'll keep.
Is no one from Potomac?
No, no one from Potomac.
No one from Dallas.
No one from Salt Lake City.
And no one from OC.
No one from OC.
Okay.
I don't need a single person from OC. I know, but like OC.
I thought it was there wasn't Potomac, Dallas, Salt Lake City because they're newer and not as established.
OC, I thought there wasn't Potomac, Dallas, Salt Lake City because they're newer and not as established.
But the fact that there's no OC is actually really crazy because they could have thrown Shannon Bedore in there.
She would have been good.
She's not an OG, but she's been on for a very long time.
Yeah, it's starting to feel like the Hunger Games.
Like everyone sends a representative, you know?
No, it's the literal Hunger Games.
I think it's great.
I'm excited until I do.
I share your concern as well, because it's just like a sensory overload.
It's a housewife overload.
And it could be like torturous.
But I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt.
I will definitely be watching it. And I just I've been really enjoying the content.
Yes, me too.
We shall see.
We shall see.
OK, next story.
A new clip of Zac Efron sparks plastic surgery rumors.
We posted this photo to our Instagram.
Zac Efron was on Bill Nye's Earth Day musical special with Facebook Watch.
And immediately fans are talking about his jaws and lips as soon as they saw his face.
And screenshots soon percolated the internet.
Well, here's the thing.
Like, Zac Efron has, like, weirdly been MIA.
Like, he moved to Australia.
And even before that, he, like, hasn't worked a lot since The Greatest Showman.
He had that Netflix show where, like, he almost, you know, died climbing that rock or whatever.
But he's been, like, very MIA. He's kind of been on a similar journey as you, Jackie, like a wellness health journey. And he's just kind of putting himself first. So no one has
really seen him. He's not like super active on like TikTok or anything. He just like kind of
lives this more like private, smaller life. So this is like the first picture we've seen of him
in a really fucking long time. And it is a crazy photo. Like, let's just call a spade a spade. It looks
like he is wearing a filter. Like, he looks crazy. And of course, he's a celebrity. He lives in
Hollywood. People are like, plastic surgery, facelift, lip filler, cheek filler, jaw filler.
Like, of course, that's where the mind goes. But I did see a very convincing TikTok from a doctor
who said, based on the swollenness that he's seeing,
he believes it's very possible that Zac Efron had a dental surgery because his jawline is very
swollen and his lips are very swollen and it looks like he's recovering from some sort of
dental surgery. So I'm choosing to believe that doctor, whom I'm not even entirely sure is an
accredited doctor. I just followed him on TikTok,
but it was very convincing. Okay. I agree with you. I think that that could be a very reasonable explanation. I'm just going to say like, like you said, he hasn't been working. He's pretty low key.
So you're going to say he scheduled a dental surgery like the same week that he's doing this
like one appearance. One thing. Yeah, for sure. sure not totally um just something to think about but
honestly like i think he's so cute and i it kind of bums me out like every when these things happen
and like everyone just starts like talking about the way someone looks when they've had a
transformation it's so hard not to especially with like celebrities who that's what we do we talk
about them yeah um i just like imagine being zach efron and it's like you thought like say he did get filler and he thinks he's looking better than ever.
And then all of a sudden these pics are going viral.
And the tweets, they're not nice.
I saw some really mean ones.
I have to say, you're 100% right.
100%.
But the fact that Zac Efron is a man, I truly don't care.
If we were having this conversation, and we just spoke about Khloe Kardashian's transformation, and people really did not like what we had to say, but I definitely agree with you. When we talk about plastic surgery on women, I do not get involved, for real. But I just feel like, honestly, welcome to the club, Zac Efron. This is what women deal with all the time. Doesn't it suck?
welcome to the club, Zac Efron. This is what women deal with all the time. Doesn't it suck?
Oh, wow. That's an interesting POV. I never thought of it between like how we talk about male plastic surgery versus female, but that's an interesting point.
Well, it's like women get, and that's what I was saying with Khloe Kardashian. Like,
okay, let's, she claims she hasn't had surgery. People think that she has. Let's say she has,
for argument's sake. Like, do you know how hard it is to be a woman in this day and age not even a famous person but
but a regular woman and then a famous one who's just like constantly being scrutinized and just
like wants to be perfect like i can see how chloe kardashian got to the place that she's at i really
really can a man it's so fucking easy to be a man you fart and you roll out of bed and you brush
your hair and you go to the Oscars
and the older you get the more handsome you get
according to society
and the older you get the more jobs you get
and it's just like great to be a big man and old
and it's like a woman
you're 31 and you're considered disgusting
I can't feel bad for Zac Efron
I'm really sorry and I like him a lot
okay okay
I think you've made some really
fair points. Thank you. I just, I have a soft spot in my, um, in my heart for Zac Efron because
for Philip Carlyle, of course. Right. Because of greatest showman and like hairspray and of course
high school musical. And so I don't know. And also I feel like he's kind of been through a lot,
And so, I don't know.
And also, I feel like he's kind of been through a lot, you know?
Because he, like, went to rehab a few years ago.
He did?
Yeah, and we, like, barely remember it.
And then he's just been on this journey, and this journey led him here.
No, I know.
And, you know, I agree with you.
Maybe I'm being a little harsh. It's just, like, this is what women deal with all the time.
Yeah, that's fair.
That is fair.
Yeah.
Okay.
Are you ready for our next story?
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I think you look ready.
They can't see you, but you do look ready.
Okay, let's fucking do it.
The Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident
will be getting the framing Britney Spears treatment.
Janet Jackson is getting the Britney Spears treatment,
page six has learned.
Left Right TV, the production company
behind the blockbuster framing Britney Spears documentary,
is working on a documentary
about Jackson's infamous 2004 Super Bowl halftime show,
we're told.
It is time.
It is time, but also like the Justin Timberlake overlap
is interesting.
Left Right TV.
Justin Timberlake woke up this morning,
read this article, and is just vomiting. And went back to sleep. Yeah, no, like he needs a major break from the public eye
because the public needs a major break from Justin Timberlake. And it appears from this news article,
things are about to get a lot worse for him. Yep. The Spears film shocked audiences when it
premiered in February by retracing the steps that her ex, Justin Timberlake, took to spin a
misogynistic narrative about their breakup with the help of the media
and laying out the disturbing circumstances of the conservatorship
that she has been under since 2008.
Timberlake may well find himself playing defense once more,
defense once more, with the release of the Jackson doc
as the fallout from her NFL wardrobe malfunction is,
well, wardrobe malfunction is widely believed to have boosted his career.
Career.
I did like a lot of messed up words and I just powered through.
You just powered through and I thought we were out of the woods.
Me too, but then it got worse.
Okay, start again.
Boost, okay.
Boost.
Because this is an interesting point.
Timberlake may well find himself playing defense once more with the release of the Jackson doc as the fallout from her NFL wardrobe malfunction is widely believed to have
boosted his career while stunting hers. Oh, I mean, of course, like that's the culture. That's
literally what we were just saying. Like bad woman, good man. Like it's so primitive and stupid.
And you know, this is really the morning, uh morning hate Justin Timberlake fan club.
So I just love to see, like, a mediocre – like, Justin Timberlake is so mediocre, like, in everything that he does. But, like, remember – do you remember when he performed and he won the Vanguard Award at the VMAs?
And people were actually saying, like, he was the next Michael Jackson.
Like, literally, like, saying he was so talented.
was the next Michael Jackson. Like, literally, like, saying he was so talented. And, like, I just, like, couldn't believe, like, the bar we have is, like, so low for our pop stars, especially our male pop
stars. So as someone who's just kind of been, like, woke to the whole Justin Timberlake thing, like,
I'm so glad that the rest of the world joined me. Yes, they're starting to join me at my table
because we've been knowing this for years. No, I know. And it reminds me of Cody Rigsby because
he loves Britney, the Peloton instructor.
And when Framing Britney Spears came out, everyone wanted him to talk about it.
And he was just like, I've been telling you about Justin Timberlake.
Like, this changes nothing for me.
No, and honestly, like part of the reason I hated Justin Timberlake doesn't really have
to do with the Britney stuff and the Janet stuff because that's like stuff I've only
recently learned.
I've just been like a spectator. We both have. And like, I just will remember that
Vanguard performance like forever because people were like quaking, like literally like the greatest
talent of our generation. And I'm like this mediocre dancer slash singer. I was just shocked.
So I'm really very much looking forward to justice being served.
Yeah. I don't remember when it started for me, the hatred.
Yeah. You can't pinpoint a moment in time.
But maybe in this, and this brings me back to your book, what an amazing book that was. And I do think
you really, you really summed up the, the, the divide at the time between Backstreet Boys and NSYNC.
And so as a day one Backstreet Boys stan,
I just think I was never really interested in Justin.
You know what?
Even as a young girl, you had taste.
Yeah, thank you.
And that is the takeaway here.
That is the takeaway.
But I'm very much looking forward to this documentary
and very much looking forward once again to Justice being served. Yeah. And honestly, I don't know what I'm looking forward
to most like justice, you know, for Janet Jackson or the justice on Justin Timberlake. Like I'm
equally excited by both prospects. Justice Timberlake. Podcast title. Write it down.
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Next story is a two-parter, a little Bachelor Nation news that I feel is that we need to talk about.
First up, the first promo for Katie Thurston's Bachelorette season has been released.
And Claudia and I were in the car together.
And someone is getting fired.
Someone is getting fired.
Claudia and I were in the car together when I saw it for the first time.
And there's just a lot to unpack, even though there's really not that much content there.
But fans get a sneak peek at the upcoming season starring Katie Thurston, a fan favorite from Matt James' season, in a teaser released by ABC on Sunday.
In the clip, she's heard saying, I am who I am, and I want to meet someone who knows who they are.
She's also wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the words, Be a Katie.
She's also wearing a lot of other criminally offensive wardrobe options.
Someone call the fashion police because
i'm making a citizen's arrest yeah no um they these promos are actually usually really good
exciting you get the vibe of like what that bachelorette is going to be all about they
choose a great song they have a great red. Sometimes you're not even excited for the season, but they really nail the promos. Like everyone
looks gorgeous. The song is like so empowering and you get like some really good takeaways and
quotes, if you will. Right. And from this Bachelorette promo, what we got was like some
really terrible fashion choices. And I feel like, I honestly feel defensive of Katie
that they put her in that.
It was not right.
They did her wrong.
And honestly, I don't even really like die for her.
But if they did this to Michelle,
like there would be hell to pay.
Because first of all, there's so much to unpack.
Because let's just talk about the pink dress
that goes underneath the shirt for some reason,
which I'll get into in one minute.
The purple dress is ugly.
It's purple.
I thought we had like a red motif.
Remember the roses?
Like I thought we had like a theme here.
So that just got thrown out the window.
The dress was literally like prom 2007.
And then for some ungodly reason,
they decided to tie a shirt on top of a poofy dress, which made no sense to me.
And not only did the styling make no sense, but the messaging of the shirt made even less sense.
Be a Katie.
Okay.
As opposed to what?
Because my name is Claudia.
No, I know.
I think if I may just like try and, I didn't even realize she was wearing a t-shirt over the dress.
Like, wow. I'm stunned. You know, it wasn wearing a t-shirt over the dress. Like, wow.
You know, it wasn't a t-shirt and a skirt.
No, but then I was the dress from before.
I saw another photo where she's wearing the t-shirt and a pencil skirt.
Oh, the big purple zipper.
Yeah.
You could see you could see that skirt from a mile away.
How could I miss it?
Right.
So just all wardrobe options were
really bad. I think when they say be a Katie, they meant like, you know, in that moment where she
was against all the bullies and yes, in the world of bullies be stand up to them. Sure.
But you could also take that message as be a snitch. Well, I mean, I believe everyone,
if everyone were like snitch, we'd be all right.
I just can't explain what this promo did for me.
And it gave me peace of mind.
It gave me peace of mind in my decision.
But I really think like some while I got peace of mind, someone over there lost their mind
because this was just so, so bad.
Disgraceful.
So bad that it had to be a story today.
Yeah, of course.
disgraceful so bad that it had to be a story today yeah of course have we ever made the only other time where we have made a bachelorette promo video a fast five story is when becca kufrin
and the abc team had the audacity to make their song independent woman by kesha when literally
we just had to point out the hypocrisy of choosing that song when you're literally like going on a
show because you don't want to be an independent woman like you want a boyfriend right totally so
this is just on that level i just like i i was shocked when i say shocked it was the nini leaks
tiktok audio i was shocked honey i mean a white refrigerator like that's what a white refrigerator. Like, that's what it was. A white t-shirt over a poofy dress.
It was honestly offensive to fashion.
And honestly, it was offensive to women.
I completely agree.
And it was especially offensive to my community, the Maxinistas.
That ain't right.
That ain't right. That ain't right. Okay. But our next piece of the bachelor puzzle reality,
Steve is, um, coming under fire. Bachelor star Demi Burnett says reality, Steve made an unwanted
and unprompted sexual advance towards her. So reality, Steve has been in the news all week.
It started last week when a podcast called chatty Broads with Becca from Ari's season.
Martinez. Yes. Her and her co-hosts were talking about Reality Steve's past and the way that he
wrote about a lot of female contestants when they were on the show, namely Jade Roper-Tobare.
Yes. Oh my God. Okay. So I also was doing research because I knew we were going to talk about this story. And so I wanted to see like what he was talking about.
And I read some excerpts from his previous work and Jade Roper Tolbert, like wasn't that
long ago.
Like I had heard that he was writing about like Chantal, but like Jade Roper Tolbert
like was really not that long ago.
And what he wrote about her was honestly one of the worst things I've ever
like when we go back and people's like tweets get researched it was one of the worst I've seen
no but it was like it's not just he wrote about her once like the way that he came for her like
during crystals a season like she couldn't be on she couldn't be in a scene on the show without
him like mentioning her entire past everything she's's ever done. Like it was so creepy and so weird.
And I guess there are other examples
where he's talked about women in that way
throughout his career.
So Becca and her co-hosts brought that to light.
And he apologized and he said that he has apologized
to Jade and Tayshia and another contestant.
What did he say about Tayshia?
I don't know.
Because I was looking on Twitter for screenshots,
and I saw stuff about Chantal and a lot about Jade.
Yes.
Oh, I didn't see this Chantal stuff.
It was just disgusting, talking about her boobs
and how she's gained weight.
Are you fucking serious?
Do you know what you look like, sir?
Okay. Seriously. Well, then he made his apologies and then Bachelor star Demi Burnett accused him of making unwanted
and unprompted sexual advances towards her. She wrote on Twitter that he had called her last
August to tell her about a graphic sex dream he'd had about her. She said, I was always friendly to
you and you took my friendliness as an excuse to trick me into listening to your sexual fantasies to tell her about a graphic sex dream he'd had about her. She said, I was always friendly to you,
and you took my friendliness as an excuse to trick me
into listening to your sexual fantasies about me.
It felt gross.
I don't think I deserve to have you make me feel this way.
I was afraid to say anything out of fear of retribution,
but then I thought of the many other future women to come on the show,
and I don't think they deserve it either.
So the Bachelor contestants, all of them,
have like this really weird relationship with reality, Steve,
because it's like he talks so much crap about them.
That's literally his job.
And they have to also like hope that he likes them.
But he also uses them for content.
Like he uses a lot of them for podcast interviews and like website interviews.
So I thought Demi did a really good job of like, because her statement was super long.
And it detailed the atrocious,
like this disgusting dream sequence, but also how it's just like a really fucked up dynamic
because like, it's almost like all these girls live in fear of reality, Steve, and his powerful
platform.
And I didn't even know that he had outed Demi as bisexual before she even had a chance to
like tell her family.
So he just, he's just like, I'm actually surprised like in this day and age, like
people, conversations about reality, Steve, beyond just like his basic, like this very
strange dynamic he has with these women.
I'm surprised it hasn't been spoken about before.
And now that it is, I'm like, yeah, like that's actually really fucking weird.
Yeah, I agree.
And I mean, I think he obviously has a lot of people who read his site. is i'm like yeah like that's actually really fucking weird yeah i agree and i mean i think
he obviously has a lot of people who read his site i try to avoid the spoiler so i'm never seeing like
the detailed stuff but he's always just like putting every single piece of information he
gets about someone and people like go to him when you find out someone from your town is going on
the show so he just like has all of this it's such a weird dynamic that they that they like live in
fear of yes so you're like nice to him and that's such a weird dynamic that they that they like live in fear
of yes so you're like nice to him and that's why demi was like he said he wanted to call me
and like this is a person who you just please this is a very scary person an influential person so
of course i'm like oh sure like let me get on the phone and he's like being a fucking freak
telling her about this like sexy dream he had about her and she's just like uh-huh cool like
what okay ew first of all second of all I really have a lot of respect for Demi because this is
exactly what we're saying like nobody wants to be the first person to out the powerful person
because at this at a certain moment in time like they still have that power so I have a lot of
respect for Demi. And I just
like, I, I just always got like a weird vibe about reality, Steve. Do you know what I mean? Like,
it's just like weird. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, I agree. So we'll keep you posted if there's
anything else, but that's, I mean, we said we wouldn't talk about the bachelor anymore, but
this is, I'm sorry. Like with that promo, they were making it too hard not to.
I totally agree. But you know what? Maybe they did it intentionally. Maybe that's the strategy.
Maybe that's the strategy. That's a pretty good strategy. We fell right into it. I also saw that Caitlyn, Bristow, and Tayshia had been together at some destination. I have to assume that they're
filming. Yes, they're in the bubble. In the bubble, but they left yesterday because Caitlyn was on a plane.
But I'm just like confused.
Is Chris Harrison coming back or no?
I don't think for these seasons.
Because I heard they announced Tayshia and Caitlyn like as the hosts,
but then it was like, no, they're actually more like mentors.
Like Chris might be back, but is he not?
I don't think that he is. I don't think that they would need two mentors if there wasn't a Chris Harrison-sized hole. I just can't believe how in the last year,
the Bachelor franchise has fallen apart. Because in this lifetime, there was very few things you
could count on. And you could always count on Chris Harrison to show up and just do his job.
And we are now living in a Chris Harrison-free universe. And I find that really just crazy.
living in a Chris Harrison free universe. And I find that really just crazy. Yeah, crazy. So I guess they finished filming Katie's season and then they decided to like tease it and they gave
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is technically a little biz news, something that we report on the Morning Toast Instagram.
I'm sorry, it's a little biz news.
But it's a little.
Like, it's a little bit biz, a lot of bit entertainment,
and a little bit SpaceX because Elon Musk.
And is it a little bit country?
You know what?
It's honestly not.
Like, I swear.
Why?
Miley Cyrus.
I guess.
But who knows what she'll be doing.
So true.
Guys, Elon Musk is hosting SNL on May 8th with musical guest Miley Cyrus.
And I'm not going to lie.
Like, I'm so fucking excited.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
I'm excited.
I'll be watching.
You know, technically, I guess there are worse musical guests than Miley, and
I know her music, so
that's kind of cool. It's
pretty cool. Yeah, but
she hasn't come out with a new song in a while.
Was she just going to do Prisoner and
Midnight Sky?
Yeah. I was born around...
Actually, that song has really grown
on me. And I'm very hard on
Miley on this show, and I have every right to be,
because it's my show, and if you don't like it, get the fuck out of here.
But it's such a good song.
I was born to run, I don't belong to anyone.
Oh no, don't need to be loved by you.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I guess she will be performing those songs.
Maybe she has new music, maybe it's a new album.
So I think it's a new album. So I
think it's actually a good pairing, her and Elon. I could see her in some sketches. I think it's
going to get like super, you know, freaky, like alien, UFO. I don't know. I'm honestly really
excited. I'm a big fan of Elon's. Me too. I keep up with Elon. You keep up with the musks i keep up with the musk may musk is actually out
here like killing it no she is literal like maybe it's maybelline maybe it's may musk no maybe it's
may musky maybe i have to work on that maybe it's elon's mom no but also like i keep up with xae12 i keep up, like, I keep up with XAE12.
I keep up with Grimes.
I keep up with the whole Musk family.
But you know what's crazy?
So do I.
But you know what's crazy and why I'm really looking forward to this SNL moment?
Because I don't think I've actually ever heard Elon Musk talk.
Claudia, he has an accent.
From what country?
I'm not sure where he's from originally, but he has a very thick accent.
And I don't know if he
I feel like he's German
like that's the vibe I get
let's see he's from South Africa
oh I totally see that
like 100% that just makes him like even hotter
okay so like that's what I'm saying
I feel like I know so much about Elon
because I too keep up with the musks
but I really have never heard the man speak so I I'm just like looking forward, like, what is his
personality like? What does his voice sound like? How does he pronounce his child's name? Like,
these are the questions that I have. And I do think they will all be answered for me on May 8th.
I think so too. Like, I think that his monologue will definitely address, you know, everyone's
fascination with his child's name. And I think that he clearly has a sense of humor if he's taking this on.
We were talking about this privately, and I just I would like to know how this happened.
Like, does Elon have representation?
Like, did SNL reach out to him?
Is this like a lifelong dream of his?
And I also think those are questions that will be answered somehow on the show, because
it's it's it's not unheard of for them to have like a business person
and not a celebrity host but it's not common right no that my first thought was like who booked this
because Elon Musk yes is very famous but he's not a traditional celebrity in the sense that he has
like a you know a musical or an acting talent so I don't know if he necessarily even has like a
talent agent like he might have like a business manager I don't know so I'm just curious how they got in touch with he might have like a business manager. I don't know. So I'm just curious how they got in touch with him.
Like did he book it himself?
Like he responded to the email?
Like I'm just really curious on the back end.
And if anybody like who works, like he's a CEO.
CEOs don't have talent agents, but he's also really famous.
So it's just like really confusing.
So I'm really curious like on the logistical elements of it all.
But also there are questions I need answered.
And I do think that I will get all that I'm looking for.
I do have plans May 8th.
So I'm kind of nervous that I'm going to have to watch it the next morning and I'm just going to be so out of the loop.
I know, but you'll record it and it will be there for you.
Elon will be waiting for you.
Also, I was reading some of the biz journals, just like one headline and they were like this is a interesting
thing because like the host of SNL can actually like affect it could affect the markets like
depending on what he says like Tesla's stock could go up or down and he's been known to like say
things and then the stock go wild well you know what I wonder remember when he went on Joe Rogan
and he was the talk of the town and there was like a million memes of him smoking? Right. I wonder if that made the stock go up or down. It definitely made it go up. And
Elon Musk, because I follow him on Twitter, he's actually, that was weird, sorry. He's actually
like very in the know. Like he's always tweeting about like funny memes, like about what's going on in the world. So it's, it's actually like not the craziest thing that he's hosting it. It's just like crazy
because it's never been done. Yeah, no, it's not that crazy, but it's, but it's crazy. And I'm
really excited to watch. And also I was just going to say, I'm going to need like a 30 minute
monologue by the way, like the, like the four minute one's not going to cut it. Yeah, I agree.
And it better be like detailed.
Like we want to know everything about you, Elon.
And say the name.
Say the child's name.
Because we need answers.
Angel.
I heard the kid's name is Angel.
It's XAE.
No, because I saw an interview where some reporter was like,
how's XAE double 12 degree, whatever. And he's like, what? And she's like, how's XAE double 12 degree, whatever.
And he's like, what?
And she's like, how's XAE?
And he's like, what are you saying?
And she's like, how's your son?
And he's like, oh, he's good.
So they obviously don't call him that.
Okay.
Like, Elon was shook by this woman.
Okay, that's so crazy.
And also, we really should have had Grimes as the musical guest.
Like, really make it a family affair.
We should have.
She's a singer.
I'm sure he could have arranged that.
Like, you want me?
You gotta take my singer wife.
But, like, they would have, like, Grimes on SNL.
I'm sure she's been on SNL.
No, I don't think so.
I know you don't respect her music.
I did not.
You said that, not me.
I don't know her music. I have one you said that not me i don't know her music i have one
of her songs in my like in my in one of my playlists so i know one i just would have loved
like a family affair and that way it's like for quarantine like it's just they're all coming from
one household it would have been so much easier yeah i agree but i'm sure like miley will um
no no this is the best thing to happen to miley like ever. I agree. I agree. I'm happy for her.
Know that I am.
Yeah.
So those were the fast five stories.
And I feel as though you actually desperately needed to know those stories.
I think you needed to know everything that was said today.
Like we've just been so all over the place.
Well, me mostly.
And so now we are all caught up.
I really feel like it's hard when I'm not keeping everyone
abreast. When it's so in your DNA to keep people abreast. And now I feel, I feel kept abreast. I
feel like I'm keeping others abreast. And that's where I like to be, abreast. You are breastio.
Breastio problems. So what do you got planned for the rest of the day at the retreat?
So I already did my morning workout and I feel so fabulous. And because I only have a few days here,
I really am going to try and make the most of it. And I might, well, I guess I have lunch soon and
we're going to upload this and then I'll have lunch and then I'm going to work out again in
the afternoon. Also, we'll be recording some Patreon episodes. So it's going to be like a
nice mix of like working hard and working out hard you're mixing work work with pleasure yeah
this like last year I was like on a full self-care unplug but now it's like self-care looks like hard
work this week I could yes like this week is going to be filled with like difficult conversations
difficult tasks but I think that at the end of the week I'm going to feel so accomplished that is a good feeling, especially like so much of my anxiety is like, oh, you're
not doing anything.
You lazy piece of shit.
Get the fuck out.
Like go for a walk.
Go do your work.
Answer your emails.
And so I just, I feel like tackling this week, like head fucking on.
Not to sound like one of those podcasters who talks about like, you know, Monday motivation,
but like, let's fucking, let's fucking do it.
No, like, you know what?
What's wrong with a little Monday motivation?
No, this is the Monday motivation you need. Like get your ass up and go fucking do it. No, like, you know what? What's wrong with a little Monday motivation? No, this is the Monday motivation you need.
Like, get your ass up and go fucking do your dishes.
And then answer those emails.
And then organize your makeup drawer.
And just fucking do what you have to do.
Rise and grind, baby.
Rise and grind.
Oh, yeah.
Rub some dirt in it.
Rise and grind.
And then you can take a bath and pour a glass of usual wines and use your hair food
and then shop a little and use honey.
It'll feel so good because like you deserve it.
Like, like taking, like, you know, drinking a glass of wine in the bathtub is great,
but it feels so much better when like you fucking are exhausted
because you haven't sat on your couch all day.
Like you have been fucking, you know, grinding and rising, rising and grinding.
I completely agree.
I'm so glad we all have like our marching orders for the week.
It's going to be a great day, everyone.
If you want to feel well and feel excited, check out my vlog on Patreon.
Get into a great headspace sometimes.
And today, today, self-care looks like hard work.
Don't you forget it.
You know what?
Write that down somewhere.
Put it on your fridge. Put it on your fridge.
Put it on your mirror.
Self-care looks like hard work.
That's me today.
And that's a Robin Arzon original.
So if you also have a Peloton, grab a glass of Robin.
At Robin NYC?
Robin NYC.
Yeah, that's hers.
Oh, I totally thought you made that up.
No, I told you like the first time I said it, I said I heard something on Peloton that really resonated with me.
And now we've just been saying it a lot. But I heard something on Peloton that really resonated with me.
And now we've just been saying it a lot.
But I just want you to know that's Robin NYC.
So if you have a ton, get on that thing.
Everyone, have an amazing day.
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