The Toast - S4 Ep94: The Bold Type with Katie Stevens, Aisha Dee and Meghann Fahy: Monday, May 24th, 2021

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

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Good morning millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Monday. Acknowledge the space that you're in. Rise and grind today. It's a Monday but we're alive and we've already been so productive this morning that I kind of feel good. Like let's let's hit this Monday hard and it's also a short week so like how really mad can we be? I know we have a long holiday weekend coming up everyone so acknowledge that space and we're gonna rise and grind until it's the long weekend but we did rise and we did grind this morning because we recorded an interview which is going to be at the end of this episode so we can tell you on the show with the girls from the bold type we've got asia we've got katie we've got megan we've got all three all three bold type girls so like we the five of us i would say we were the bold type we

were being quite bold we were being extremely bold and if you are a fellow bold typer then today's episode is for you because um ahead of their premiere on May 26th we're sitting down with them about the final season and they were just like so nice and sweet. It was such a treat. It was a true delight so if you're gonna listen it's at the end of this podcast episode. If you want to watch the video we recorded with them via zoom. It's up on our YouTube youtube channel um just like was really grateful for the opportunity yes extremely grateful i feel like my outfit today is like extremely bold type very jane it's very right she loves a puppy sleeve a bold sleeve a bold everything and so when i got dressed this morning i i definitely had that in mind yeah i forgot that like you know that they're fashion

girlies no i knew that but i was just, it didn't occur to me to like join them on their fashion journey. So I just looked like a regular person. I do try to always dress in theme for our guests, but we're recording another interview today

that will be up on tomorrow's episode. So we're not going to spoil it yet. And so I had to dress for both guests. And like, when you know

who the next guest is, you're going to know that it was really hard for me to not put all my eggs in that basket. I know, I know. And I appreciate and I commend your bravery. I really do. someone's got to do it oh bless you i'm

sneezing the podcast in a while you sneezed on it means i'm truly brave truly we have a great show for you guys a lot happened over the weekend there was snl the bbmas kaylor's birthday like there was just a lot of things happening that we just cannot wait to discuss yeah it was a nice weekend though i feel like i had a lot of weekend i I feel like I got, I got a lot of time with the family. I read a lot. I finished my book, The Romanov Empress. It felt so long, but it was just as long as anything else that I read. And it was really good. So if you're looking for like a great history of Russia from 1860 to 1920, The Romanov Empress, the story of Maria Fyodorovna I am always looking for a nice brief history brief history of the Romanov empire from 1860 to 1920 so the next time I'm searching for that I will definitely pick

that up yeah because it's like you get the history but in a in a snack well it's not snackable because it was long but you know like through the lens of one extraordinary woman I too had a very robust weekend lots of family time I went out on Saturday night and just like got so drunk. Like I was hungover until I went to bed last night. Like really bad. I guess we didn't really chat that much yesterday because I didn't know. It was really, really bad. Like I went to bed at 10 o'clock.

I had like a splitting headache. I just, it was one of my worst hangovers to date. Wow. Was it worth it? Yeah. Okay. I didn't have anything to do yesterday either. But was the night fun?

Yeah. It was whatever. I was just like desperate for a good time. Like I went to a party like I normally would the night fun? Yeah it was whatever. I was just like desperate for a good time. Like I went to a party like I normally would have left upon arriving at you know. But of course I stayed for like three hours. I was just like really wanting to get drunk and like hang out. Well you know you did it. And I'm fine with it. And you did just that. And now I'm gonna take it easy this week before the big weekend. And it's probably time we let you guys know. I know it's a long weekend but of course we make a long weekend longer weekend longer even longer so our last show of the week will be Thursday and then we'll be back

on Wednesday because we just have like things to do I'm gonna go on a boat you know like I have big MDW plans yeah no it's really my fault because I have to be out of town I have a wedding Jackie has a wedding so like I then took up vacation on the days that you were going to be gone yeah so we'll be back on Wednesday. Sorry. It sounds really long when you say it like Thursday to Wednesday, but everyone's off for the most part, like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Yes, exactly. So we just took one extra day. One extra day. Which we need to take. So we'll give you extra content this week to get you through. Lots of interviews, lots of Patreon. Speaking of, I uploaded my What I Eat in a Day vlog to the Patreon and I think people are

really, really enjoying it. I know that you did. I actually really did and I do believe it goes without saying that before watching the video, Jackie's not a doctor. No, no. She's not recommending this for anyone. This is just what she does. No, I'm not a doctor. I'm just a vlogger. So I have to show you what I eat in a day. And honestly, people get those two confused a lot. 100%. But like, if you're not, you're not a vlogger if you're not showing people what you eat in a day. And you're not a doctor if you're not a vlogger. 100%. And I find what other people eat in the day, like, so interesting. So, because you just get, like, good ideas from other people, too.

So, I film that. And if anybody wants me to record one, it will be three hours long. Because I just, like, eat so much in a day. I would love for you to record one. You know what? It's, like, actually embarrassing. Because would love for you to record one. You know what? It's like actually embarrassing. Cause like the video would be five minutes. Like I have a chewy bar in the morning and I don't eat anything till dinner.

And then I eat 4,000 calories for dinner. Like that's just me. Yeah. I, I would be curious. And also when you start to have to film like what you eat in a day, it's kind of like when you have to like input your accountability into new or something,

you really start like paying attention. You're like, should I eat that? Or I'm gonna have to like input your accountability into Noom or something. You really start like paying attention. You're like, should I eat that or I'm gonna have to put on the vlog. Right. So I definitely had one of my best days because of the vlog. So thank you guys for holding me accountable. So the vlog was basically like your teddy melon cam. 100%. 100%.

If you want to eat well, just vlog it every day. Okay. Good thing I don't want to eat well. But then you also have to like post it too and nobody wants to watch that. No. They don't. Well, we have a great show for you guys today. Lots to discuss.

Lots to recap. I'm so excited to talk about SNL. Like I have so many thoughts. So I just feel like why not? Get right into it. Yeah. Do you have anything else to say? I feel like I always have something to say.

We want to wish a very happy birthday to Magnolia. Today is Magnolia's first birthday. Happy birthday, Knowles. Bruno's girlfriend. He's looking to take you to dinner tonight. So keep your calendar open. We love you, Magnolia, even though Magnolia's mom, Margo, never watches a show. So this is falling upon deaf ears. Yes, but we're just so happy Magnolia's turned one and we couldn't wish for anything better for her. And you know what? She's really like a really good girl. She's a good girl. And so I'm really proud like she's that she's had a really hard first year Margo keeps her in line

like Margo was the strictest dog mom ever but look at Manoli she's really like a great dog yeah speaking of dogs I have a Bruno update that I don't know I told you and like you really were like shook by it and so was I forgot what it was that Bruno I weighed him this weekend oh Bruno weighed 16 pounds, you guys. I just feel like that's a lot of brew. It is, especially because my frame of reference is Theo, who I believe weighs somewhere around 25 pounds. So you cannot tell me that Bruno only weighs nine pounds less than Theo.

No, it was kind of shocking. But I was just like, the more the merrier. And then it's also shocking because 16 pounds is like, you would think like lifting weights or something. Like 16 pounds is is like nothing. No but like if you pick up a 15 pound dumbbell no that feels like really heavy but compared to Brew I don't know I just thought everyone should know that. Make it make sense. Brew is growing into just a lovely young man. Growing. He does it every day. He's growing in the evening and even when we play and when we grow a little taller we can do more things because we're growing.

I didn't know the other half of the song. Excuse me. Okay we can get into everything. I don't have SNL as a story so you'll have to slot that in somewhere. You don't? No. Why? Everyone's quaking. About what? You know it was the final episode of the season. People were curious if certain cast members were gonna be announcing that they're leaving. None of them did but like well I guess we could just get into it right now. Yeah just tell us your thoughts quickly I just like it's never it's not gonna be a story unless Elon Musk is hosting it's not gonna be a story. Oh that's so funny because I literally thought it was the best episode all season I was in hysterics and yes when I'm hungover I'm more susceptible to laugh at your jokes cuz I'm like just generous like that but I

thought it was hysterical I thought I learned so much about Anya Taylor-Joy like she's first of all like so stunning but we already knew that I didn't know that like Spanish was her first language she grew up in Miami she had a very unique accent it was like American but like not um she grew up in Argentina like she was just this woman of the world and I didn't know anything about her um she acted so well in all of the sketches there were so many funny sketches and we can update they do my thing, which is at the end of every season, they write jokes for each other. Oh, yeah. So, like, they blindly have to read jokes that the other one wrote for them.

And, of course, like, Michael Che always makes the jokes or Colin Joe's, like, really racist. So it was just, it was so funny. It was a great episode. And Lil Nas X was unbelievable. Like, I just think he's so talented. And he ripped his pants on stage. I saw the headlines. Everyone's, like, quaking. I thought he was unbelievable. Like, I just think he's so talented. And he ripped his pants on stage. I saw the headlines.

Everyone's, like, quaking. I thought he was great. And you know what? Really, just, like, I was thinking when I was watching him, like, he really has created, like, an entirely new genre.

Like, I don't even know what I would call his music. Like, it's so different. And, like, his aesthetic is so different. And I just thought he was great. And I thought it was

a really good episode. And now a lot of people are speculating it's the final season. Like, who's leaving? Who's staying? Because there was an emotional moment. it was a really good episode. Now a lot of people are speculating, it's the final season, like who's leaving, who's staying? Because there was an emotional moment. There was an emotional moment at the beginning of the episode with 80 Kate McKinnon, Cecily Strong, and Kenan.

And everyone, well, Cecily got kind of choked up and the whole vibe of the show, I was getting like the impression that Cecily was going to leave, which I am so excited for. Like I actually think she's the least funny person like on the entire show. And that's saying a lot. And also they gave her, like, this big tribute thing at the end of Weekend Update. So it was kind of just, it felt like her send-off.

Like, she didn't say or do anything. It just had those vibes. And I endorse. Like, I think that is fully the right decision. And then Pete Davidson came out on Weekend Update and just made like a weirdly sentimental conclusive kind of speech like, this has been so fun. Thank you so much for letting me grow up in front of you guys. Bye.

Like it was like, I will not be surprised if he leaves. Yeah, it's honestly surprising that he's still there. I mean, especially because he's never there. Like he doesn't, he was literally in one sketch and it was actually pretty funny. But I really feel like they need to clean house like in a lot and they need to like

start promoting other people. Like I feel like Beck Bennett like is actually really funny and he deserves like more airtime. Yeah. I really do not think Melissa Villasenor is funny like at all.

And I wouldn't mind seeing her go. It almost feels like she like does certain impressions and like forces them to make her do it on Weekend Update. I just don't find her funny at all. I do not find Cecily Strong funny at all.

I think that Keenan is great. Keenan should stay. I think if Keenan or Kate McKinnon leave, the show is fucked. They're the actual celebrity stars that come from SNL, like Kristen Wiig or whoever. So I don't know what they will do if either one of them leave,

and I don't think either one of them is going to leave. You don't think, but people think. People are speculating that Kate McKinnon is leaving. I don't think she is. Okay, interesting. I agree. They could use a little bit of a shake up and the ratings stay the same.

Yeah, and just like some of the people who've been on for a few years, like they just didn't take off. Like Heidi Gardner, like she's funny, but like she didn't, she's like not unique enough in my opinion. Got it. So I just feel like a lot of people who have been there, like, and they really need to

make the show, the Bowen and Chloe Fineman show. Like they are the future of this show and they're hysterical. Yeah. So that's my thoughts. Okay, cool. I only watched the one sketch, Braw Barn, because you and I need to go there. You guys, I lost my mind mind that was maybe one of the best sketches i've seen in like the last 10 years when they said a bra is for bubbies and a bra is

for breasts i was crying and then when they held up their two bras i'm like i literally have that bra like they were like straps so wide they're a pair of jeans it was so fucking funny and so accurate and when they gave jill zarin a shout out jeans it was so fucking funny and so accurate and when they gave jill zarin a shout out like it was just everything that was a brilliant sketch yes okay well i might watch the rest of the episode now it was very good now that you've raved about it yeah okay so now without further ado to do to do where are you right here sleeping being a precious boy it is time for the past five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast while you listen to the sweet sounds of construction. We are so excited that today's episode is brought to you by Olive and June, the Manny

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Is it Eurovision? It's Eurovision. It's truly global. Eurovision winners, Mane Skin, agreed to a drug test after cocaine allegations. Okay, this is a crazy turn of events.

Well, let's backtrack because most people in america do not know what eurovision is and i i honestly didn't know about until last year when i brian got tickets and we went in tel aviv like yes and i think for the first time ever it was broadcast on peacock so you could watch it in america and which we did all of saturday watching eurovision the longest it was so long of all time but it was a talent show interesting it's a talent show talent show for every european country it's like the interesting. It's a talent show. A global talent show for every European country.

It's like the Olympics. Everyone gets to submit one act. They write original songs. They perform them all weekend. They cut to finalists. And on Saturday, it was the finale. 26 countries performed.

One is the winner. It was Italy. It was Italy. And if you watch, then you're genuinely shocked by Italy being the winner. When the scores were coming in and all the points were going

to Italy and Switzerland and France France deserved it Italy and Switzerland I'm like are you serious like I I was I thought this was a talent-based competition so I was kind of confused yeah no it was definitely based on nothing other than I don't know friendships like right I have no idea why these people voted the way that they voted politics but it was is it political? Do you really? Like, I was wondering as I was watching, because like the way these countries were voting made no fucking sense.

Like, no, literally like justice for Malta. Justice for Malta. Malta was so clearly the winner from, and Israel was in, and I of course wanted Israel to win. And even I knew that Malta should have won. Like Malta was everything. Everyone on Twitter was like, it's literally Maltese Lizzo. Like she had such an amazing voice, such energy. Such a great song. Such a great song. Malta was everything. Everyone on Twitter was like, it's literally Maltese Lizzo.

She had such an amazing voice, such energy. Such a great song. Such a great song. And she had her girl dancers. It was just powerful. Yeah, there were so many great acts. Sweden. Italy didn't even.

Cross my mind. Wouldn't even be top 15. Actually might have been bottom five for me. Agreed. Which was shocking. So anyways, they won based on whatever credentials these people voted on. Based on policy. Yeah, and then also they got the fan votes.

Like, no, they didn't. And Malta, like, didn't get a lot of fan votes. Yes, she did. And Malta's so small. And of course, like, the bigger countries are at a bigger advantage. They have more people to vote for them. It's a really big deal in Europe. Like, people wait up all night and they vote.

Like, it's a huge deal. So of course you're going to vote for your home country. And I just don't think there are that many voters from Malta. Yeah, perhaps. But that's why the judge votes could really help. But anyways, in a strange twist of events, the Italian glam rock band that won the Eurovision Song Contest returned home Sunday to the adulation of fans, congratulations from the government, and so much speculation that the lead singer had snorted cocaine during the show that now he's vowed to take a drug test. He said, we want to shut down the rumors spread on social media after he was seen bending over a table during the Saturday night live TV broadcast. There's a photo of it, a video of it.

It really does look like he's doing cocaine on TV. It really does. So in order to squash the rumors and not take away from their win, he is going to do a drug test. Well, I think, I mean, I saw the picture and Leia was like, you cannot tell me that this man was not doing cocaine. But if you agree to a drug test, and it's not even mandatory, because I think, let's say he was tested positive for drugs. I don't think he would get his...

Disqualified. No, he wouldn't. So I just think he wants to salvage his reputation. Yes. Which I understand. But he doesn't have to submit to this drug test so the fact that he is makes me think that he wasn't right because the picture he could just let these like rumors fly and it's just like this funny thing but the fact that he's going so far out of the way makes me feel like okay maybe

maybe not and i don't think it would disqualify him in any way this isn't the kentucky derby right no it's not like a sport yeah i this he's not medina spirit right so I don't know um like I think the fact that he is agreeing to do it when literally like nobody's asking him to makes me think he's innocent but that picture is very damning it is very damning but I also feel like I hadn't seen these rumors until he agreed to the drug test so I kind of feel like he's giving it more legs yeah but also like when I was watching him I literally said to you I'm like if this guy wins he's gonna be the biggest douchebag in all of Italy like he was just like feeling himself and like now that he won he like thinks he's so great um yeah so he's obviously like I just got the vibe that he was like a douche

and like really like wants to be famous so I think so I think like honestly all in all this is just like part of his image now yeah no I'm maybe he's just like riding this wave and like he's like oh okay I'm going viral like let's play this out. Right. That's true. Also, there are a lot of ways to get around drug tests. Right. Especially if it's not, like, mandated by the court.

Like, when you have to submit a drug test, like, to the government, they, like, watch you pee. There's nothing you can do to. Right. But if no one's monitoring. He could be doing, like, an at-home Dwayne Reed one. And his sister pees in the cup. Yeah.

There's no one monitoring this specific drug test. Like, no offense. Like, why would I believe you? Right. And I'm pretty sure, like, cocaine leaves your body in three days. Three days. And it's been three. Yeah.

So if he's like, I'll take it tomorrow. Unless you do it with your hair. I think, like, hair drug tests. I don't know. I don't know. I've never taken a drug test. We'll keep you posted on the results of this. But mostly we just want to talk about Eurovision because it was just really interesting to watch.

It was. And it was, like, nice to watch when you have no stake in the game like you're just truly like a an admirer from America but it was really frustrating because we started watching it at three o'clock and it was over at like seven so it was four hours just for us to literally watch a competition that was based on nothing right truly truly based on nothing because if they wanted to like if they wanted someone to win also like you told us the person who wins then Eurovision's hosted in their country next year so maybe like at Eurovision they know where it's going to be next year and they've got to make that person win somehow that I could possibly understand but then in that case they could let like the fan votes sort of sway towards

like I just wish the judges votes were based on merit it made no fucking sense yeah and it was just I felt like I wasted my whole afternoon. And I also felt like at first when everyone was voting for really terrible acts I was like oh maybe this is a way for them to have their country win if they vote for someone who's like not really a good candidate. But then everyone might have had that same idea and voted for the worst people because the worst people were the winners. It was so shocking and it really felt like a waste but I did enjoy like watching like this global moment. Yeah me too. I kind of felt like left out and I was thinking like if if we were a part of it like we would kill it in America you know. Yeah and we were also saying that Toast by Claudia Asher is actually like a very Eurovision

song. It really is because all the songs are original and they're all for the most part except even the people who went it was rock everyone else it's really like a dance bop, like very, you know, Erika Jayne style. That's literally what Toast is. So I'm just putting it out there. Like if somebody wants to license Toast for next year's Eurovision in Italy, like I would be okay with it. Yeah. I think that that's exactly the future of Toast.

I think it is too. Okay. Ready for our next story? Another wonderful performance moment. Pink. Pink performed her show-stopping medley of hits at the bbmas including an aerial duet with her daughter willow okay this was like really surprising to watch it was a family affair to kick off her medley of hits at the 2021 billboard music awards pink hit the stage alongside her nine-year-old daughter willow for an adorable acrobatic performance of their duet cover me in sunshine

then she went on to sing a medley of her hits but when i first saw pink come onto the stage i was like okay that's probably her daughter that she's carrying but then they started going through the air i was like there's no way that's the daughter yeah but it was the daughter yeah no i know the daughter because i follow pink on tiktok it's like a daughter lookalike no and she's been like promoting this new song cover me in sunshine so much so willow's been all over the talk yeah and i just have to say like adore pink I'm about to praise her I absolutely despise that song agreed I'm literally Pink's amongst her biggest fans like I can't say enough good things I don't like that song hate it um but not to be negative I thought it was a wonderful performance I think like it

really kind of validated what we know about Pink but now like maybe the world will see like she's just like a star. And she's ready to do the Super Bowl. That was the message. In case the bigwigs at NFL were like, is she ready? Is she not ready? Last night she said, I'm ready.

And if Pink is not doing the Super Bowl this year, this year, I don't want to see, she'll do it eventually, I'm sure. But if it's not this year, then I don't want it. No, I completely agree. First of all, her vocals are on point. Her songs are such hits. Like even when her medley, which was kind of small, it was only like three or four songs. year then I don't want it no I completely agree first of all her vocals are on point her songs are such hits like you owe like even when her medley which was kind of small it was only like

three or four songs like the truckers for pink have arrived yeah and they're not going quietly and they're saying super bowl this year not next year yeah because first of all she has so many fucking hits that are just mega mega like everyone knows them every generation if like kids on tiktok know it it's from me me girls anthems her performing abilities are unparalleled like truly and she loves a spectacle like every one of her concerts is a mini super bowl the aerial the flipping the harness like that's what a super bowl is it's a true spectacle and that is her specialty and i don't know why it's taken this long yeah i don't know why either but she is ready and willow's ready too because I was truly shocked to see that her daughter is an acrobat as well yeah like that I was really

nervous but obviously they know what they're doing but I was just like wow I I was I was really impressed you were speechless apparently no I was really impressed it takes a lot to like impress especially at an award show yeah like from a kid you know yeah and she had said before when she was interviewed on the red carpet she was like the first three minutes of my show are maybe my favorite performance I've ever done and I was like I feel like celebrities are always saying that to like hype themselves up and I can now I understand um but let's talk about the BBMAs like a little bit because I watched I watched up until Pink performed me too and then I was like goodbye it was really boring and it's just one of those award shows it's like whoever shows up gets the

award like yes I not and not a lot of people showed up right so like oh i wonder who's gonna win the country award maybe the only person who's here gabby barrett won both of them like it was just obvious and like kind of stupid and you don't really watch out for the awards because no offense they're kind of meaningless you watch for the performances i saw a bunch i thought doja cat was great i thought doja cat was great and sisa like they're just like a dynamic duo i love Doja Cat. Oh so good. I feel like in something like she's just every song is a hit thanks to TikTok. Every song is a hit. And when I was watching the BBMAs I was just really thinking like and I thought this I remember thinking this last year too like I know every single one of these songs only because of TikTok like I've

never heard them on the radio I don't listen to them on Spotify but I know every word because of TikTok and it's actually and Tanya Rad did the um pre-show she was like the Juliana it was actually crazy like she did the whole thing and she did amazing like she spoke to the Jonas Brothers Pink literally everyone she did incredibly and all the so much of the interview questions like were so naturally about TikTok especially with Doja Cat like it's the impact TikTok has on the music industry is truly unparalleled. Yeah. But the show was boring, honestly. Yeah, it was pretty boring.

I was happy to turn it off and get back to my book. I just want to say, like, I thought AJR was really good. I have no idea who that is. Okay, they sing that song, let's go out with the bang. That was from the Kardashian commercials. I don't know it. You would know it if you heard it. Because even Zach knew it.

And we're, like, the oldest people alive. I don't know it. You would know it if you heard it because even Zach knew it and we're like the oldest people alive. Yeah, you really are. So I just like they, I just liked AJR. Just want to say that. Now you're a big AJR girlie? I'm a big AJR girlie and the lead singer

like had his own thing going on. Oh, are you into him? No, no, no. Was Zach getting jealous? I was about to say that wasn't my personal thing. But he had his own thing. He was doing his own thing.

I respect people who have their own things. And they do their own thing. Do. They do-da-do. Their own thing. Do-da his own thing. I respect people who have their own things. And they do their own thing. Do. They do-da-do. Their own thing. Do-da-da-do-da. Do-day.

No, it was an interesting just sign of the times of like who's around and who's not around. And who's showing up and who's not showing up. It was nice to see Drake. Oh, I didn't get that there. I didn't see him. What a handsome man. I didn't see him. I thought Nick Jonas did a good job hosting.

Kept the show moving. I know it pains you to say something nice about him. But it doesn't. Like, I'm more than happy to say nice things about Nick Jonas. I just like didn't really know what he was doing there. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's like too famous for that. No, I know. And I wondered why he even would do that, especially because like hosting is now like the worst job in the business. But he didn't even try to be funny. He he was just like I'm getting you from A to B. I know and I appreciated it but I do think part of the reason because I agree I don't know why he would take it he's more famous than that and he's getting awards not giving them out like it was just bizarre I do think that he's like very eager to do things separate from his brothers like be a Jonas brother but also be Nick Jonas he's in this movie coming up he's got the spaceman

like he very much wants to oh yeah he has Spichemin yeah he very much wants to be his own thing in addition to being a Jonas brother and I think that this was just one more part of that I don't understand the eagerness to like not be a Jonas brother when like the Jonas brothers are the greatest thing that ever happened and Kevin Jonas like actually looked really hot last night so I think that's why okay cool I agree I don't understand the eagerness but you know what like everybody you need to fulfill your passions that's true otherwise otherwise you'll resent your brothers and we are always always like talking about and pushing our passions forward here at the morning toast and we should be more supportive of Nick Jonas following his passions I'm completely

supportive of him oh I'm not right I'm just like be a Jonas feather and stop just yeah yeah but sometimes that's not enough for someone I can can't imagine. I can't relate. Can't fucking relate. But I guess that's how he feels. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? Only if it's a story that's brought to you by Hair Food. It is.

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Kendall Jenner had a star-studded launch party on Friday night for her new liquor brand, 818 Tequila. Her famous family, including her sisters, Kylie, Kim, Khloe, and her mom, Kris. No Kourtney, by the way, because she was out supporting Travis. Came out for the party at the Nice Guy in West Hollywood and documented the occasion on all their social media channels with some sickening photos other celeb guests included Hailey Baldwin Kate Hudson and Katy Perry

that's so weird I literally was just like who's Hailey Baldwin her name is Hailey Bieber now like that's how I literally think oh that's so true to me they're interchangeable but Bieber is taking the lead no but I was like Ireland Baldwin was there like I literally did not know who that was so weird wow um yes so there are very few things that like I wake up in the morning and see and like actually I'm furious that I wasn't invited to like not in any world that I would be invited but like that looked like the best party first of all it's all about tequila so everyone was probably just so drunk Kendall really does have like the coolest friends you know like Hay like Haley, like I love that crew. And Kylie was there.

She looked amazing. The stories, like I watched Kim's stories a hundred times. Like it looked so fun. And I just like, I woke up like really sad that like, I'm not a part of that social circle, even though like in what world would I be? But like, you know me, I'm like delusional. Like I was really upset. Oh wow. I was really happy to like see this party.

It just looked- Two different girls. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I could not handle being there. It just looked. Two different girls. No. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I could not handle being there. Like you. Oh, I could. You would be great.

I would work. Like for me, I just like, I'm just so glad that this is happening. Like for them, I'm so glad that they're like sharing content. Everyone looks so amazing. It did look so fun. There were like fun, funny videos, lots of TikToks made, like great photo moments. And they're really doing the most for 818. They're doing as much as they possibly can. I know. and it's like difficult because I do believe 818 is only currently

available in California so I love the press and I love the marketing but like I can't even buy it yeah and it's like at this point I mean I probably won't try because I wouldn't know like what good tequila is versus bad but like I'm sure at this point you're curious I'm sure it's fabulous like I would drink it you think so yeah the part do you want to know for sure you know I'll sure it's fabulous. Like I would drink it. You think so? Yeah. But do you want to know for sure? Yeah, no, I'll try it. Like if I ever get an opportunity. Yeah. Also, Kris Jenner and Corey Campbell.

Kris's outfit was so iconic. Like she was wearing the 818 vest. I don't know if that's going to be merch, but like it was all just so brilliantly marketed because like need that vest so badly. Yeah, the bucket hat. Everything. Kris looked so cool. Like she looked cooler than anyone there yeah no they're doing a really good job of marketing it and um i'm happy for kendall because

me too she's had like i feel like you know it's always up until now she's been like the face of another brand or this or like mumbling for doing collabs with her sisters yeah she's never had her own like big thing like this and and i think it went really well. I saw she bought. Borrowed Kylie's lip kick truck. To do the 818 track. I saw that too. Which is just like. We love to see the support. I'm sure the Kardashians just own that truck.

And like they use it for different things. You need a truck for everything. For all your businesses. And you know what? Like I feel like. We don't really know that much about Kendall. But what we do know. Is that like she gets really anxious.

And like so many of her jobs. Require her to be away from home. And to travel a lot. And like that's when her anxiety. Builds up. And you know as you get older. You do kind of phase out of modeling and so I really feel like this is like a perfect bridge for her into like another phase of her life not that she's old but you know what I mean yeah no you want to constantly be evolving so I think this is like a brilliant marketing move I think

the branding is very cool there is a little bit of controversy so I have that also there's a Texas company well there's a lot of controversy about the tequila itself of course I mean that commercial was twisted like whoever literally put her in that outfit and the hair and makeup and then also had her sit in a pickup truck with a broken window with a trash bag over it like it was so offensive and so out of touch it was a charge yes yes also a Texas tequila company um it's called tequila 512 um the CEO Nick posted to Instagram this week highlighting the similarities between his brand and her brand one they're both three number names they're made from the same distillery they kind of have like a same color scheme and then the 512 is distilled three times and 818 is just still twice and 818 costs more than 512 you know there's definitely something there to his claims like

a hundred percent yeah to me this sounds like um Kylie Lip Kit and Colourpop oh my god literally that's a great analogy exact same product but you're paying for the branding same factory yeah same factory everything huh good call yeah and three times the price yeah yeah but you're buying like the the name the name wow that's actually a really good call it's a perfect analogy thanks well if if kylie cosmetics is any indication then 818 will be very successful okay but also kylie cosmetics right now yes like not in operation i think they're like they're something big is coming secret project but like i guess if i i can't like go buy a lipstick right now like the site is down i know like being

transformed i feel like they might because i feel like this is kind of dramatic for a total rebrand like with new logos and i do feel like they need a new logo it's kind of outdated um i feel like they're becoming like a clean beauty company you think yeah or it's gonna be like a hub for all kylie skin like she just trademarked kylie baby maybe it turns into kylie beauty and it's like skin maybe hair hair. And she just is like doing more. That's a much better idea than mine. Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, that's definitely it. Because like Kylie Skin, when it came out,

I was like, nobody needs this. But now I'm like, Kylie Skin's everything. I use the face wash. And I know like a lot of like dermatologists have said, like they don't like some of the fragrances used. But I base my judgment on skincare for like how it works on my skin. And not like what someone on TikTok says.

Agreed. And with that said, I think the not like what someone on TikTok says. Agreed. And with that said, I think the best like influencer skincare right now is Covey. I was talking to Emily DiDonato yesterday because you have been, I use the vitamin, they have three products. Yes. I use the vitamin C serum and you've been like raving about the cleanser, but I have an open cleanser and I don't like to have multiple open products. Oh, I use a different, I like rotate between three or four cleansers.

But so yesterday, I finally ran out of my CeraVe drugstore moisturizer and I didn't have, so I went into my cabinet and I got the Covey one and I can't believe I let it sit in my cabinet for like a month because it's literally the best moisturizer I've used ever. It's so fantastic. Like if you truly use one cleanser, then two vitamin C serum and three, the moisturizer, it's, you don't need anything else the whole kit is really gets you covered from start to finish and emily giannotto is a toaster

so like that makes me like the brand like a little bit more but it's really it's a it's a i agree it's one of the best influencer brands out right now i'm almost not influenced i'm almost out of the cleanser because i also put in my travel bottle to take with me to like pritikin and in nashville and i'm gonna buy more like i love it so much me too this is not that just a genuine i agree enjoyment of covey so i think you're definitely onto something with kylie beauty sounds sounds nice yeah but i think it's gonna be something big like that so stay tuned but it's been it's been like a while the website's been down like not just since yesterday for like weeks yeah yeah agreed so we'll keep you posted mystery but this is a case for the fbi literally are you ready for our next story sure because j-lo is all

smiles with ben affleck in miami i'm sorry i love these people well i love j-lo i so don't care like i'm i'm really really searching high and low for a fuck to give and I just don't like okay cool they're back together like what should I do go throw a parade I don't know because up until this point like I really thought they were just like working on a new business venture no but now these pictures are really pointing in the direction that you know Bennifer is reunited better than ever the one thing I do like have energy for is the fact that like this is such a slap in the face to A-Rod after he literally slapped her in the face. Yes. Like, with the whole Madison LeCroy thing.

Yes. So I love that part of it. And A-Rod is, like, obviously spiraling. Like, his posts on social media have been so weird. And also, did you see he started a makeup company for men? It's called, like, His and Hers or something. I did see. Because I saw that picture that was, like, going viral.

Which I actually think is not a bad idea. There is some guy on TikTok I've like seen. He's like a small business who like makes concealer for men. And like he's literally just got put out of business. But I thought some of the promotional imagery was very provocative and very weird. I just saw this like picture of A-Rod putting on concealer. And it was just kind of disarming. And he looked very bizarre.

And I can't stress like I actually think it's a great idea like I think Ben sometimes needs concealer like he has such puffy under eyes like I think it's a good idea but like just something about seeing this picture really like just threw me through a loop or whatever the fucking phrase is flew me through a loop no and it's like the picture is um kind of jarring but then also like everyone's talking about this picture it's actually pretty good in marketing for his yes brand he just looks like I don't know he just looks weird like sitting in his vanity like and not to be mean like I really do believe first of all there is a space for like you know manly men you know makeup makeup yeah um because they need it like I see

sometimes people on the street with pimples I'm like girl like I would never leave my house like that like neither should you like yeah yeah why is it okay for you yeah they need it like I see sometimes people on the street with pimples I'm like girl like I would never leave my house like that like neither should you like yeah why is it okay for you yeah they need to start putting forth some more effort like I agree with the mission behind the company I just can't explain like why something about the photo just like tickled me in the wrong way I agree I I do agree and I just like I I actually went from like being obsessed with with A-Rod to like wanting to see him hurt like I'm so mad at him for what he did to j-lo yeah and i i know that this benefit thing is definitely bothering him because like people are obsessed with benefit in the way that they used to be obsessed with a low and i know he's jealous like i know he is and that makes me happy because i'm so team jennifer and

it's like they were so obsessed with a low j-rod for so long that you didn't think that her next relationship could be bigger and better but it's actually like so much bigger so much better and they have an even better couple name like Bennifer it's iconic yeah no and it like harks back to and it's just everything and so yes while I agree like just Ben and Jennifer like whatever whatever when you add a crowd to the mix I'm like so yeah so beyond like think of how embarrassing it must have been for JLo to not only be caught up in some scandal with her fiance but when that fiance is talking to like a 25 year old reality star, like that's just, I love Madison LeCroy, but it's beneath JLo. Yeah.

And so like whatever A-Rod is feeling right now, like he is so deserving of. Yes. I agree. I'm very upset with him. I agree. Clearly. Well, you're ready for our fifth and final story. Only if it's a story that's brought to you by BetterHelp.

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Will be buying an AR company, Wave Optics, for over $500 million. They're making a big push into augmented reality technology. Wait, just really quickly this reminds me i want to talk about the we work documentary after this because oh okay great snapping said friday will acquire wave optics a british augmented reality company for over 500 million dollars the deal first reported by the verge and confirmed by a spokesperson will help the owner of photo messaging app snapchat push its way into a future where ari where could be ubiquitous they really believe

that ar is the future and they're trying to push it on everyone i thought that that's what the snap spectacles were yeah i just feel like they've been talking about like ar and vr forever and like it really never like took off i agree i agree like of course and people know i don't know anybody who has vr goggles or ar are they the same thing augmented reality virtual reality whatever no I just know people like who have done it like experimentally like in their houses like nobody owns VR and like hangs out in their VR glasses like I just think this whole augmented virtual reality was like a trend a few years ago and it really never took off and I just feel like maybe it's time to let sleeping dogs lie yes but then I was actually in a conversation last week about um nfts and I was learning I'm not in the world at all but I think like with

the rise of nfts they're also like ar vr there's like other worlds that people will be living in got it and spending time in and buying she's getting emotional subject and buying like things in other worlds I mean the other realities other reality thing just reminds me of that black mirror episode with landry from friday night lights where he ends up like kidnapping people from his office and putting them in that virtual like spaceship and then they find a way to kill him yeah and he like dies in the video game oh yeah yeah no it reminds me of the black No, it reminds me of the Black Mirror. IR VR reminds me of the Black Mirror episode where those two friends keep playing this video game.

I have not seen it. Oh my gosh. Okay. So there's two friends. They both put on their VR goggles and get into a video game where they each pick a character that's not like them at all. And in the video game, they're playing against each other all the time and they spend, they're just fucking the whole time.

Like. What? They're two. I did not think that's what you were gonna say two video game characters like are in love with each other like they both these guys are like friends like buddies from college and they'll log on are they like straight they're straight guys i think like they're married and like they would log on at night and like go fuck their buddies video game character they were like in love in the vr and then in real life like they would never they weren't into each other in real life but they had this like whole other life in the video game and uh they had it had like come to terms with it and i think the way that

it ended was like oh sorry spoiler alert um because the wife like found out what was going on and the way that ended is like i think like once a year they got to like play their video game and like stop them crying and like like see their long lost lover. That's like Brokeback Mountain. Like they used to only be able to see each other once a year. Also, I just can't. I like refuse to support Black Mirror as an institution. After they literally destroyed me.

When they made me watch that Prime Minister fuck a pig. Stop. Because his daughter or the princess's daughter was kidnapped. And the second he started fucking the pig. To completion. Which of course course he couldn't do so he had to go for like two hours and then they let the princess go i that was the last episode of black mirror i ever watched and every couple months i think about it and it's so upsetting like it was the worst thing i ever in my whole life and i've seen some fucked it is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. Like, it brings me, I have trauma. Like, real PTSD trauma from it.

Yeah, I totally agree. That was so unnecessary. So, by the way, nobody asked for that. Like, so fucking unnecessary. Yeah. And, like, the moral of the story is, like, because everyone was, like, they let her out, like, the minute, like, right before the broadcast started. So, if not, everyone was, like, fixed on their TV screens, fixed on their tv screens they would have known yeah she was running through the street sick sick oh my god i honestly i don't know if i could go on with the show like once it gets in my

head i'm like so mad that we're talking about it because you don't understand how this literally haunts me haunts um but can we talk about the we work documentary i watched it on friday night because you told me about it and me and ben were like i had a lot of thoughts on it i had a lot of different feelings about it that's why i'm glad we're talking i don't know if i said all my feelings on the show because like on the one hand i was like this dramatic much yeah dramatic much on the other hand like this guy was definitely adam was just like a freak but that's not a crime no i just think the whole documentary was so dramatic. And I was like waiting for him.

Like, okay, when does he start killing everyone? I'm like, they just made it seem like he was such a bad guy. And he was a freak. And him and his wife, the only thing they were really guilty of was doing too much too fast. And if WeWork had just stayed being WeWork and they didn't try to have the schools and the living facilities, like that was fucking weird. Yeah, but like people lived there. And they loved it.

Those people were so, the happiest they'd ever been in their lives. So I thought they, I think, like. That's what I was, I think I said on the show, like, they were really doing that shit. Like, they were talking, like, even the camp. Like, they put it on, like, it's literally Fyre Festival, but they made it happen. No, it's not Fyre Festival. No, I'm sorry. It's what Fyre Festival, like, should have, like, the infrastructure.

Like, they made these things happen. And we were watching, and I'm like, like wow can't relate to being that big of a loser to like ever going to a we work summer camp but these people are having the time of their lives and like no one's getting hurt so i just didn't understand why the documentary like was hell-bent on villainizing this guy adam when his really only mistake was mismanaging his money and his business and thinking that he was like godlike and yeah he they were trying to paint him like a keith ranieri so i, okay, when does the branding start? But there was no branding.

I feel like he was a freak. And it definitely sucked that all those people got laid off. And he walked away with $1 billion and is still waiting for another $500 million from SoftBank to this day. Definitely unfair. Again, that's just how these tech things work. People step down to CEO companies and get hundreds of millions of dollars. That's just the world we live in and at the end when that girl was like i lost my purpose and like like it was so unbelievably dramatic i was like girl it's just a job like

it was just i was not feeling sympathy for these people at all when like i should have been i guess i agree i just thought they really like were trying really hard to find an angle on this story when it is actually really interesting how you go to market at 47 billion and no one buys your shares and you end up at 10 billion and there was an interesting story there to how they were like you know considering their numbers like they weren't I don't think they were they were being like just deceptive in like how they crunched their numbers and I think that's an interesting story like for like a financial documentary. But my God, were they being such drama queens?

And honestly, that guy, the bald guy who works for NYU Stern, he was so funny. When they were saying like in their mission statement, like we are a collective of creative. And the guy was like, you literally lease desks. Like chill. It's office space. And how much they didn't want to be a real estate company when literally they're a real estate company. Obviously Adam never the founder because if he had then he would have known like

the value would have been in buying all this real estate and then he wouldn't have been a burger company he would have been a real estate company yes but and that's why i always assume they owned all the buildings that they had office spaces in and it made sense when they didn't because you he didn't start with a lot of money and that's why he could just lease these random floors for like certain amounts of money per month in order to buy buildings in the city and that's what they were saying it is generational wealth like you have to be so wealthy to just like pick up a building or own a floor like and that's I was like how did he get started and also what about the other founder who literally didn't say one he wasn't even in the documentary yeah it was like I don't know I just felt like they had it out for this guy adam and i can't stress like if i met

adam i would despise him no and like everything about the we meant oh we grow we live it was so lame and it's like all this like jargon buzzwords that like mean absolutely nothing like i have no time for yeah but i agree with you they They really were trying to, like, shoehorn this narrative where it's, like, it's... We all were... We all, like, really were kind of pathetic. Yeah, no. And honestly, like, I feel like the documentary intended to make Adam look bad, but it ended up making a lot of the people who worked for WeWork look like some of the biggest losers

I've ever met in my life. Sorry. I agree. The documentary was giving me NXIVM vibes because I all I was thinking was like how everyone in NXIVM was a huge fucking loser yeah and it wasn't even like a cool celebrity cult it was like your most famous person is a girl from Smallville Smallville like get better celebrities like and that's how I felt about this documentary I'm like where's the drama like what's the tea like I know but you know what the tea was a little bit like

Ashton Kutcher oh going all in thank you so much for bringing that up because the next day me and Ben watched it on Friday night and we're walking to lunch and we're still talking about it and I'm like honestly I feel like they tried to paint Adam Newman to like look like a loser when at the end of the day the documentary was worse for nobody than it was for Ashton Kutcher like going on this PR like loserdom tour I, honestly, aren't you embarrassed to be associated? Also, it wasn't great for Gwyneth Paltrow.

Rebecca, Adam's wife, is her cousin. And so she was like this freaky deaky, like, hippie, like, we grow, we live, all these things.

She's like, we're not going to be done until we change the consciousness of the world. And so she did, like, a group, like, panel or something.

So, like, Gwyneth was in the documentary. It wasn't great for Gwyneth. But it was really, honestly, embarrassing for Ashton Kutcher like he should never leave his house again but he will yeah you know that he will yeah I agree I had mixed feelings about it and it just wasn't so like why was everyone so hyped up about a like a Regis office space concept no like why why was it even 47 million like that's the marketing that's on silicon valley no but that's the marketing that was like adams that's what he brought to the table it really was

like people wanted to live there like yeah it was this like cult like community but they weren't hurting anyone so it's not a cult yeah and i'm sorry like if you agree to live in a we live like that's on you we're all grown adults like it was really weird yeah when when he was like i would have friends come over and they would never come back like obviously like what are you doing it was so bizarre i completely agree so i said what i said and i thought it was really fucking weird and i thought the documentary was just trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and maybe we're just conditioned to watch documentaries where things are so fucking crazy to be blown but like sometimes yeah I guess it is interesting we used to see the headlines about

we work I think we reported on some of it I don't think we ingested anything that actually happened because this was all news to me so yes it is nice to know what happened but I agree maybe we're just conditioned to like expect the craziest shit from documentaries and there wasn't anything that crazy it was a big fat fucking nothing burger nothing burger with a little loser sauce no a little a lot um so yeah I I would recommend it though honestly like the documentary because like it was interesting like there were interesting parts of it because and I think for me what was interesting is like with all this like tech companies and stuff and these valuations like they really don't ever make sense to me and like I couldn't wrap my head around how a company like WeWork that actually was really successful and

like people were in the door and people are signing up. And it's a great idea. And they couldn't get enough space. Like, you know, how like. 200 locations. Right. How that becomes not profitable. Right. Well, that's the whole thing. Like Uber doesn't make any money. That is something I'll never understand. But now they're under new management. WeWork is still in business i i feel like they didn't make that clear enough i'm like so is this company out of order like but i also had the thought i don't know if i said this on the show already if they could have like chugged along a little longer till covid and then everything hit the fan they could have made it seem like covid was the reason yes but i was thinking that during the documentary too i'm like well this company was going under regardless because working

from home like your whole business is out your whole business is out no one's going into the office let alone with a million strangers in a commune right literally and by the way even if COVID hadn't taken them down the culture now around working is so different that honestly the concept of shared workspace is a little outdated now we're all working remotely we're not rubbing up against strangers like they wouldn't have survived on a need basis who we're going to be next it's the antithesis of a post-pandemic world and they but i think that if they could have gotten to march 2020 they could have blamed it on that they could have blamed it on that like so many companies will do and have done becca cosmetics first to go um okay so let's cut the chit chat and get

on to our interview yes so if you're watching on YouTube, there's another video just next on our channel. It is The Bold Type. We've got Kat, Jane, Sutton. The girls are back together. And it was really, really awesome to talk to them. And if you're listening as a podcast, just keep listening. And thank you guys for listening to the show. We'll see you tomorrow.

Enjoy. Bye. Bye. Welcome back to The Morning Toast. Jackie and I are humbled, honored, and just, like, so excited for our guests. We have all three castmates. We've got Aisha. We've got Katie.

We've got Megan from The Bold Type, you guys. Thank you so much for being here. We've been talking about your show for the last two weeks on the podcast. We are obsessed. And now you're here. Final season's premiering in two days like we're devastated yeah yeah people people are pretty sad about it well that leads me to my first question why well free form question we do getting canceled? No. No, we weren't. We weren't.

That's the thing is, like, I think that it's really cool that, like, I've been on a show where we have been canceled before at the time. And we don't get to Freeform for giving us a season letting us know it's the last one letting the writers know it's the last one so that they could like really wrap up the stories and like give these characters and us the goodbyes that we wanted and deserve five seasons is like so cool no it's amazing and to be able to end on your own terms is always ideal you know but I think for some of us it's amazing. And to be able to end on your own terms is always ideal, you know? But I think for some of us, it's just, like, upsetting. Because, like, we have found comfort in the show and in the development of your characters, but also the characters around you, like Jacqueline and Oliver.

And I just, like, I don't know what I'm going to do without my gals. Well, you could rewatch the show. I already did. Have you guys finished filming the final season yet yeah so how do you feel about the way it ends for your characters like do you feel do you feel good about it i definitely do i think people are going to be happy we better with you we better i'll be so upset seriously unforgivable if we don't see a Sutton and

Richard, like I get that you had to play with us in season four, but like, obviously you guys are OTP. And if that doesn't work out, like, just know, like, I will be upset. Wait, what's OTP? I don't know what that is. One true pair. One true pairing. I learned this recently. Oh, cool. And that's like what you guys are. So I'm glad to hear that from you. Yeah, I'm glad we got a nod from you. Yeah. What about you, Aisha? How are we feeling where Kat ends up? I was actually very surprised. I was not expecting it. And it really happened so fast. I was like, what? Okay, that's good to know. I mean, I feel like the show is successful for so many reasons

but for us like I feel two really strong ways about the show one I think you guys incorporate social media and just like influencers in a really natural way where sometimes like you hear like tv shows like Emily in Paris like talking about influencers and it's like so cringy you could die so I feel like it actually makes us feel seen like oh my god you guys actually like that is how it actually is as an influencer and I think you guys really handle like controversial topics in really approachable ways like one of our favorite episodes was Betsy the gun like it was so funny but it was also like my girl it was valuable I just think yeah and like when you guys are filming those episodes like do you guys know like that it's gonna be to be, it's like so funny, but it's also very accessible talking about like hard things.

I think that we've always, you know, there are some times where we do something that's a controversial topic and we're like, Ooh, I hope that this goes over the way it's intended. But I think we have always been able to show the gray area to these topics to be like, oh, you can actually sit and disagree about something and be able to have a conversation about it and, you know, come out the other side, maybe with, with more knowledge and feel more educated about where somebody is coming from. And, you know, I think that that's important in this day and age where like so many people just want to live in an echo chamber and don't want to challenge themselves to like think about how other people feel or might

feel differently um so I feel like we've always handled that and we have always gotten messages from fans being like we paused the show and like me and my friends talked about it and I think that that's like so cool to have that effect yeah yeah it's super valuable and also like another element that I just feel like really elevates the show is the wardrobe and Jackie actually pointed something out to me that I thought was so interesting that like some of your characters have worn the same thing more than once which is like how actual girls who work at a magazine live and just like normal people and so first of all I love that and second of all do you get to keep any of your clothes because like they're all so stunning we were able to buy some of them this final season um and we did that half off

which by the way most of the stuff that we wear is like still a pretty penny like it's not but that was like one of the cool things about it it's like some of the stuff that we wear is, like, still a pretty penny. Like, it's not. But that was, like, one of the cool things about it. It's, like, some of the stuff that I took home, like, I would never buy for myself. So it just felt like a good opportunity. You know, they, like, tailor everything to our bodies and stuff. So why not? That's true. And so where do you guys film?

Montreal. Oh. Even the New York City outdoor scenes? What? Yeah, so like. Even the city scenes. Yeah, the outdoor scenes. The outdoor scenes.

I mean, in season one, we did get to go to New York and like film for a couple days. But apart from that, like there's a park in Montreal that like we cheat as Central Park. That is so interesting. Oh my God, I thought this whole time that you guys filmed in New York. And we're in New York and we cheat as Central Park and that is so oh my god I thought this whole time that you guys filmed in New York and we're in New York and we had no clue right I can tell because of the scaffolding and I really miss it and the construction literally they've been putting up the scaffolding in front of our like beautiful excuse me our beautiful window and it's like hello and there's like construction usually during our show you'll see like a bunch of hot construction guys just like working on the back of our show in the back of our show yeah dog oh this is Theo he's a huge fan he watched the whole um series with me a

couple weeks ago and he had some thoughts but overall he's really pulling for Sutton and Richard so hopefully you can make that work for him for Theo yes Theo okay yeah I'll put a call in on Theo's behalf so the new season premieres in two days how are we feeling are we we're obviously sad we're you know bittersweet but how are you guys feeling about the final season I'm excited I think it's great I think people are gonna like it and sorry we're all ready to kind of like give it to the world and then sort of move forward down the road yeah do you guys film this season during covid did that change how you were able to do some of the stuff oh yeah what were like the protocols take it away, Aish. Oh, all right. Well, yeah, it changed it a lot. But, you know, what's nice about it was we knew what everyone's face looked like, you know, from their nostrils down because we've been really blessed to have a lot of the same crew for all five seasons.

So I think it would have been a lot harder if we didn't know everyone already and have like cultivated relationships with them. So we all kind of helped each other through it. But yeah, it was really hard. Like, you know, that's part of the reason why I love my job is that I get to feel like I'm in the circus and like hug people. And so that was really difficult. But, you know, we got through it. And I'm so like, I mean, I speak for all of us, but I feel like we're all so grateful that we got to do it because you know, those are like interesting times. So we're very blessed. Well, we're grateful that you got to do it. Cause we're so excited.

The new season premieres on free form on the 26th of May. So we'll be watching. Thank you guys so much for being here. We are obsessed. Like, thank you for the work that you do for the culture, for the community. Like we love you. Thank you guys. And thank you guys for listening. We will see you tomorrow. We love you. Thank you so much.