The Toast - S5 Ep103: Hey, Are You a Freak?: Wednesday, August 3rd, 2022

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Wednesday. And look who jumped up right in time. It's Brassen of Brassenstrasse. It's Brassen of Brassenstrasse here at the Morning Toast on Hump Day, which is my favorite day to be in the presence of a Bryce or a Strice, because, you know, after the show, things get a little crazy. Hump Day, yeah, really crazy. Beastiality, oh yeah. Things get a little crazy Yeah Really crazy Beastiality Oh yeah

Um Actually speaking of beastiality I had a dream I was in love with my horse Where did you get this horse? And the horse's name was Odessa Okay Which is weird

Um But like before bed last night Um We were like playing a trivia game And like one of the answers was Odessa I don't know what that is I think it's a city. Yeah, it is a city.

And that was my horse. And apparently like it was a horse from when I was a child and I was reunited with the horse. And the horse also sang Elvis. Oh, that's I know why that is. Because last night I found out that Elvis comes out on HBO Max next week. Wow, you guys. It's everything's coming up because also Top Gun is available to watch on demand now. And Elvis. So once I watch those two movies, I will be totally caught up and I will be able to knock it's everything's coming up because also Top Gun is available to watch on demand now and Elvis so

once I watch those two movies I will be totally caught up and I will be able to knock them off of my content plate that's exciting check check check you're making a list and checking it twice to take the badoors down no no wait no his countess said it to take me down yeah but taking the badoors down sounds better yeah it does it's conflating the two the two franchises um so that's here to say that uh elvis will be on streaming next week and i definitely will be watching it because i just wasn't able to get my ass to the theater this time same and i have one thing to say you ain't nothing but a dog player. I get it. Frog. Frog?

Frog. Frog. Which I totally get, by the way. I think she is saying frog. We were watching the music video this weekend, and I asked you if she was saying frog. And as an artist who's released music as well, I get it.

You know, frog. Actually, yesterday was the three-year anniversary of a toast to the wild ones, a toast to the good life. And, you know, we have so many new followers here because literally like we are the official podcast of TikTok. And I don't know if like some of our new listeners know. I have some bangers, actually just two. And one of them was released three years ago yesterday. It's called Toast by Claudia Aschere, available to stream wherever you'd like. And it's pretty, I got angry. It's called Toast by Claudia Asher available to stream wherever you'd like. And it's pretty, um, I got it.

It's pretty fire. Also, I noticed in the comments yesterday, we must have some new toasters because people are asking what Patreon is and we never explain what it is. We're just like, go to Patreon if you want this, that or the other thing. Wait, people want us to explain what Patreon is. We would love to. Never ask. Okay, so Patreon.com, it's pretty much like OnlyFans,

but it's just a different website where people do different things. A lot of podcasters use it and where we post bonus content. So we do five extra episodes a month. They're different from this show. It's not like the Fast Five. It's not what you see here.

Sometimes it's vlogs. The podcast will get into like a specific subject. We'll get into beauty. Classic surgery. History. History. We're constantly discussing history discussing history yeah so we'll pick a topic and then expand on it we also do a lot of general q a's and we also do probably two or three vlogs a month depending on the month and what we're up to so that's where you can like get to know more about us when you're watching this show and you're loving it but you're like who are these girls yeah who are the girls

behind the mic i want 200 more episodes from these girls where they're being more personal more open we've been saying 200 more episodes for like two years i think it's probably 400 more episodes we could do the math so and by the way the morning toast podcast that you're listening to now is monday through friday totally free available wherever you get your podcast so if you want to a support your girlies and b.99, $7.99 a month for five extra episodes, it's patreon.com slash The Morning Toast. And then you also get access to the Patreon community, which is like full of other toasters.

And as a Patreon member, you get exclusive access to tickets, which brings me to my first point of the day. The pre-sale for my comedy tour, the second leg of Not Like Other Girls Tour, went live this morning um for patreon members so charlotte we've got seattle we've got portland it starts at 10 a.m local time so you know the portland and the seattle ones haven't started yet but charlotte started durham started huntington long island new york started um yeah it's very exciting and then general on sale for everyone

starts friday and hopefully there'll be some good tickets left for you guys can't wait for that and it looks to be about 250 episodes that we have just doing quick math four years of doing the toast but we started patreon in May we started the toast in April four years five episodes a month and then 12 months a year 60 times four yeah and well I'm Einstein Yeah. Well, Einstein. Then plus 10 episodes from May to now. Right, right. Cool. Yeah, cool. Albert Scurllies. Yeah, that's also something about us.

We're kind of like mathematicians. No, we're passionate about, of course, celebrity pop culture and ourselves. But we're also extremely passionate about the sciences. Math. Industry. Yeah. Math. Industry. Yeah. Revolution. Physics.

Claudia will never miss an opportunity to let you know that she was almost a physics major. Excuse me, almost? No, I was a physics major. Until you weren't. For a year. Right, but unless you- So that year doesn't count? No, only what you majored in.

No, no, no, no. I'm not saying I graduated with a major in physics I'm just saying for a period of time I was a physics major I think that's completely factually accurate yeah okay just don't even try to like strip me of my accomplishments because I will come for you I will come for you I'll come for that tiny little neck okay as long as you call it tiny it's yours I'll wrap my big fingers around your tiny little neck, okay? How tiny is it? So small I could crush it. We're also passionate about violence.

We're also passionate actually about reading, which leads me to my next point, which is that the Redheads recorded last night and per usual, it was an amazing episode. These girls, they're just so wonderful and the dynamic between the four of us, it's kind of like, it reminds me of the show Friends. It's like everybody's obsessed. So it's bad if it reminds you of the show Friends? Everybody's obsessed. Like there's a character for everyone.

I feel that. No, those girls, they've got charisma. They really do. And they've got smarts. Oh, speaking of you. And they've got opinions. Speaking of you and reading. What did I do?

You recommended the worst book okay like the worst book here's the thing you came to me for a recommendation I said to you I don't really have what you're looking for and I'm going to do something that I never do and I said this and I'm going to recommend something that I haven't read something that's on my want to read list that has an interesting description that maybe you would like you know I'm not interested in the details. All I know is that I ended up reading literally, I think the person who wrote this book sat down and was like, how many annoying, dumb, infuriating characters can I fit into one tiny little book? And you know what? It was quite a lot. I hated everyone. I hated the plot, the ending. Oh my God. So dumb. Oh, two stars. And usually I never finish. I never

give books two stars because if it's that bad, I won't finish it. No dumb. Oh, two stars. And usually I never finish. I never give books two stars because if it's that bad, I won't finish it. No, I give books two stars when it's really bad, but I made it to 50% and I'm getting that Goodreads book for my end of year. Right. And I just wanted to be able to say like, you know, definitively that the book you recommended was trash. I didn't recommend it. I said like, I would never have heard of it if it wasn't for you. Okay. We were brainstorming and I said, I'm going to do something I never do, which is recommend a book I haven't read. So I don't want to like trash the book, but I do like want people, like, I don't want

anyone to have to experience what I experienced. Like, should I say the name of the book? No, because it's more personal than food. And like my two star books, like are some people's five stars. Yeah, no, it for sure. It was called Greenwich Park. The description looks good and the cover was really pretty. Stunning.

You know, also I have a really hard time. Maybe this is you. I've read like a bunch of books that take place in London. And I have like a really hard time imagining it or really kind of understanding. Because I have no idea what these neighborhoods are. I don't know how far they are from each other. I can't really picture it. Unless it's written from the POV of an American like something borrowed well no something blue it takes place in London but Darcy is there and

she's American and she's like explaining it to me got it so there's like a level of understanding you need to have to like know what the fuck they're talking about yeah I feel that so many of the books that I read are based in London especially because my favorite author one of my favorite authors is Sophie Kinsella and she's a British girly and Confessions of a Shopaholic are all set in London and I just go with it like I don't pretend like I know what they're talking about. Okay so like I was reading this this whole thing. And like every cracker is a digestive. Jackie do you know what we want to go punting this weekend? Do you know what that is? No. So at first I was like whatever i'll figure it out like context

and then they like kept saying it's right to like click it hold it down it needs to go boating like who the fuck knew that dead ass but you know um one of our favorite authors sally hepworth is australian and all of her shit takes place in australia but she does a good job of being like oh maybe not everyone is going to be australian reading this and she explains it like yeah or she'll be like so i live here but my family lives on the gold coast and i'm like so is that close here far how wherever you are uh but i agree she paints a lovely picture of australia stunning and i don't feel so out of the loop same so that was one of the many issues leanne moriarty writes from australia too gorgeous place yeah um honestly when I think of Australia I think of this

iconic short-lived reality show on Netflix called Instant Hotel where um they had people um compete who had like different Airbnbs like but like they were cool niche Airbnbs um they had them all compete like they all stayed at each other's Airbnbs and like gave it a grade and then someone would win at the end it was just like I feel like I talk about this all the time, this incredibly annoying mother daughter duo, Bondi. Her name was Bondi. And they had a condo in Bondi Beach. And me and Ben were obsessed.

And there was also this gay couple, Leroy and I forget his name. And they were so obnoxious. With the pillow. Yes. And you always say I'm like him because I have to bring my own pillowcase. They were so snotty. They went everywhere. And like there was just some people who had like modest airbnbs and they put their whole life's work into it and leroy and his partner whose name i can't remember like we're so fucking snobbish like so disgusting the very last episode we get to their airbnb and

it's literally like a suburban home like in the middle of some random suburb with like a waterfall in front it was so janky and we're like you two have been so obnoxious to everyone i'm like this is what you were working with the whole time safe to say they did not win but justice for instant hotel bring it back yeah agreed i also think of our lips are sealed when i think of australia of course iconic mary-kate and ashley that's the one that's the one i hope that they're happy with that portrayal of their country uh they must be it must be on some know, like list of approved media. They were in the witness protection program in that movie, right?

So good. Yeah, and he was from a country called Yaragli. What? He was from... Who was? One of the guys who was like chasing them down. He's from Yaragli. Oh my God, that's funny.

And I'm sure in some recess of my mind, that's where Yarandi comes from. Right, Yar's funny. And I'm sure in some recess of my mind, that's where Yerandi comes from. Right, Yerwelcome. What can I say except Yerwelcome? Oh, I forgot to tell you. So we had dinner at your house last night and we pretty much spent the entire evening trying to get Michaela to say Claudia.

And I know it's a hard name to say and I'm trying not to take it personal that I'm the last person whose name she said, even though I've literally been in her house for almost two weeks. And when she went to bed last night, you know, Zach Shapiro picks her up and then like hands her to everyone to say good night. And she like laid on my belly and she literally whispered in my ear, Claudia, I swear to fucking

God. She's like gaslighting you because she won't say it publicly. And she's like not going to, she's going to make everyone think that you're crazy by saying she said it. And we're like, no, she hasn't. We didn't hear it. The cool thingivia um and zach is that they're not emotionally manipulative like us and they believed me that's good i was like you guys she she literally like leaned in for a hug kind of like you know like a child in a scary movie like claudia the power of

christ compels you and then she went to bed and i haven't seen her this morning because i feel different now that it happened that's really been your goal. You know, I don't feel different if anything i'm just like that was it You don't want to say that clutty. I love you so much. Thank you for being an amazing auntie. Yeah It's fine. That's next we're working out our differences me and michaela eden sassoon the lisa rena to my eden sassoon. Yeah And that's a patreon joke. So if you don't get it, join Patreon. Speaking of Eden Sassoon, so I'm reading this book. Oh, yeah. Uppercut by Carrie White. And she's a celebrity hairdresser back in the 60s.

Much like Vidal. And Vidal's all over it. Really? Like here and there, actually. It's not main character or anything. But like she talks about, you know, the other people around her. Like this person came from Vidal. What's Vidal doing over in the UK?

He's doing these like blunt haircuts. That's inspiring looks here. That's so interesting. Vidal Sassoon is such an interesting like celebrity, you know? And does that hair care brand still exist? For sure. Yeah. It's no Paul Mitchell, but.

They're all pretty good. Yeah. That's. Do you think Eden Sassoon has a lot of money from the Vidal Sassoon legacy? I believe this is Googleable. And did she have other siblings that she had to split it with? I feel like she probably has siblings.

Vidal Sassoon. Net worth. Yep. Net worth. Oh, I think there's a Vidal Sassoon documentary. He has a net worth of 200 million. Wow. And he's not alive, right?

I'm not seeing. Oh, who did he leave his money to oh great great question and oh and also the next question is how much is eden from and even his daughter right yeah he is two surviving children oh hundred million fourth wife ronda were entitled to the entirety of his state and assets oh fourth wife that throws a wrench in the whole thing you know yeah so they say Eden's net worth is 20 million. Nice. But she's also an entrepreneur. So she might've like put, you know, lost all the money in some dumb venture about crystals. Yeah. Cool. Cool. That, that tracks for sure. Um, so that's your hair history lesson of the day. Yeah. We've got a great show. It's Wednesday, which means we're doing dear toasters, which is one of my personal

favorite segments here at the morning toast, advice segment at the end of the show we will read three prompts from three toasters in need of our help and we will do our absolute best to deliver some really sage and sound advice um if you ever want to write in it's dear toasters at gmail.com totally anonymous you can write in about literally anything you want literally literally can't guarantee you'll get chosen no no I mean if it's good and please don't be writing essays like this episode our episodes like we try and keep them like around an hour if you're writing me a whole magilla even if it's the craziest shit i've ever heard in my fucking life i can't read it yeah but if you loved your toasters and like or you're feeling shy about

your dear toasters every so often we do a dear toasters patreon episode where it's all your toasters from requests from our patreon members to have a better chance of getting selected we can be a little more long-winded it's a great time but for the main show like keep it tight only need to know information you know nothing's that important so without further do-do-do-do-do even though he isn't here next to bruda do-do-do uh theo's here oh yeah you guys we shipped down the Theo pillow to Jackie's Florida studio so that when I'm back in New York, I'll have a piece of Bryce with me. She'll have my Bruno pillow, and I'll have her Theo pillow,

and then we'll have our real dogs, and so everyone will be together. So I guess this is the official, you know, passing of the baton. Now I've got Brass and Stress on my chair. Brass and Stress, yeah, Brass and Stress. You know what? Everyone's like, you need a centerpiece for the table right here. No. We have one.

Yeah. We have one right now. You know, a brief observation before we dive in. I feel like in our Florida episodes, in our Florida eras, we have. We're in our Florida era. 100%. We have not sang that much. Maybe that's why our numbers are so high.

I wonder why that is. and I do want to thank everyone for um the non-stop work they've been doing to subscribe to us on YouTube we're getting much closer I think we're at 95k and when I started this whole journey a couple weeks ago like we were so far we were at 80 so bullying works and that's the lesson from today's episode um and I'm feeling really good about it like also I a bunch of youtubers who um listen to the show have actually reached out to me with like some growth hack um tips and tricks and one of those is uploading to youtube shorts i should do that which i do believe has really helped our growth um so i don't know which it is the bullying or the shorts but i'm gonna continue to do both

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We will withhold our talent until we hit 100K. That's what we should do. No more episodes until 100K. And that would mean only like 5,000 or 4,000 of you have to get on your Gmail and subscribe. I think that's a good idea. And not desperate at all. And has no ability to backfire.

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While obviously now in COVID like that's disgusting. It's also just like I remember being like get your fucking tongue away from me wench. Like it was so such wenchy behavior. It was such a violation. Yeah it was. And just like something about their particular tongue. It was such a violation. Yeah, it was. And just like something about their particular tongue, something about like a school room just made everything dry. You know? No, but like that is just unnecessary.

And then sometimes like if you got your paper and you were the top one that had like the mark on it. It was moist. Yeah, you had a fingerprint. And I know we have a lot of teacher toasters. So I just, I'm curious to know if that fad has. I don't think contemporary teachers do that. Me neither. I pray I wonder what that was about because it's like people handle paperwork all the time but only teachers licked it yeah no and they're like glasses would be at

the bottom of their nose and they would be licking and it was just like it was really as if school wasn't traumatizing enough that was um that was really unnecessary now that I think about it traumatizing enough that was um that was really unnecessary now that i think about it not cool teachers not cool core memory um 100 like um do you have a teacher in your mind right now who you're like remembering do it no oh i did i am you just have like a favorite teacher who put everything on jackie it's that teacher who i spoke about in my dirty jeans comedy special yeah you just love blaming her for all your life's trauma. Behind the scenes tip, the name I used in my comedy special is not her real name. They said I could get sued if I did, even though like it was a positive story for her. But no. Yeah. Only real ones know. Okay, now are you ready to get into the stories? They're actually pretty good today.

Oh, I had sent you a story from Vulture last night. Oh, yeah. I thought you wanted me to read it like for my personal life. You didn't say for the toast. Oh, I thought it was implied. It's fine because it's really niche. But I just thought it was interesting. Do you want to just update us?

So I feel like I've been talking about this a lot recently, especially on Breaking Bread, which we have tonight. It's Wednesday. Today's Wednesday. We have Breaking Bread, but it's at five o'clock tonight. Yes, because rolled comes first. Well, it wasn't working for me and that's fine. And other people were like suggesting, I mean, you moved the time. So the time is now five o'clock Eastern time. Join us. It'll be so much fun. And then as always, it'll be available on Friday. And we support moms. Yeah, we do. Otherwise, mamas get us. I've been talking to support mamas.

I've been talking about this story because I just find it really interesting, even though I think it's like a niche side of TikTok about the Jake Novak story. So for those who don't know this kid, Jake Novak, who makes like YouTube videos where he like sings and choreographs and writes lyrics to like, he's trying to be funny. Um, and one of his went viral on TikTok because he was basically making this video when he heard about all the people leaving SNL, he was making like an audition for himself. And like, it was so cringy and like it went viral and everyone was like blowing him up. But at the end of the day, like he was just like, you know, doing his art, you know, putting himself out there. He was putting himself out there.

Well, how did the song go? You used to sing it all the time. I want to be the next SNL cast member. So here's why I should be a contender. My name is Jake Novak. I don't know the rest of it um and then people just like went off people became obsessed with the cringiness of it then started looking at some of his older videos resurfacing like this cringiness um there was like I think he didn't do anything wrong and like the hate that he got was so like the magnitude of it was so crazy compared to like he was just like putting himself out there like maybe he thought I could just see his grandma being like what if you just made a video for Lorne right um and it was like it was earnest and it was sweet um but then like you know some of his

old videos like he did one about like school shootings and it was like really um insensitive you know children dying in the schools like it was really weird um but again like i think his intentions were pure you know okay he was just trying to like make art yeah it's not malintended it's just not but the way the internet ascended upon him like and he sent it he sent it thank you he is like his real job is um he's a performer a singer in like a barbershop quartet at disneyland and people were like showing up and like harassing him it got so out of control and he posts videos once a week every Wednesday and he has not been heard from since that SNL video which was seven weeks ago so now the narrative on TikTok has changed like hashtag where is Jake Novak and

people have been speaking out like you guys literally bullied him off the internet showing up to Disneyland like you guys are evil and it's just like obviously now the conversation has changed but Vulture landed an interview with the mysterious Jake Novak and he told them everything he was like this has literally been the worst time of my life like people harassing my family members literally people like were this is really sad like people were reaching out to him making fake emails and fake websites pretending to be Lorne Michaels like and I think for a while like it got really sad and really and really bad and it's just like it's an interesting case study on like virality on the internet yeah um and his interview with Vulture was um it was really sad and then of course like he had old tweets so everyone's like no we don't feel bad for him

which is not like a valid um thing for a normal human being to say so it's just been like a crazy journey that I think we've now come to an end with like we've heard from Jake Novak he got an interview on Vulture and it was really interesting to read everything that he's been through since this one dumb cringy but not evil video came out that just made me like really sad that's why I sent it to you I thought you would find it interesting it was like I had to read it on reader view and um i was just doing something else but i can't remember and i wasn't invested in the story to begin with and now i'm depressed so no it's really it's like it's a terrible story me with them showing up to his barbershop quartet i know and i saw a video

of him and his barbershop quartet he was like having so much fun i want to cry no i know he was obviously just like passionate about his art and took it a little too far, which haven't we all taken our art too far? Hello, the morning toast. It's called being an artist. It's called being an artist. Didn't Da Vinci cut his ear off? And it's just sad.

It's really like. He's a modern day Da Vinci. Or was it Van Gogh? Van Gogh cut his ear off. But he is a modern Da Vinci. That too. So I just thought you'd find like the end, because I've been talking about it at least personally with you so much yeah i thought you'd find the end of the story quite um quite interesting i'm upset i know i wish i didn't know this i'm sorry it was

upsetting for sure the internet is so evil disgusting like why can't we just leave it on the internet that's the thing it's like you want to write like your funny mean like comment about the cringiness whatever but to show up to his work, to make these fake emails, like get a fucking life. And then, of course, it like always spirals into like death threats telling him he should kill himself. Like, of course. Why? Why?

Did I like the video? No. Did it make me cringe to the largest extent? Yes. Would I ever message him? You should kill yourself. Like people are not OK. No. I mean mean people aren't

okay it's so sad that's just really not the foot I want to start I'm sorry I'm sorry I just I forgot to talk to you about it this morning if you had added it to the docket well I didn't so what did you add to the docket you actually have some some really good stories today so first up Demi Lovato is using she her pronouns as well as they them now so Demi Lovato is using she, her pronouns as well as they, them now. So Demi Lovato is back to using she, her pronouns a year after coming out as non-binary and sharing her preference to go by they, them. The singer shared on the Spout podcast Tuesday that she came to the decision. Love podcast making news.

Of course. Haven't heard of this particular one? Me neither, but I will be subscribing. Because we subscribe. And we support other podcasts. Like a step forward for one podcast is a step forward for all podcasts agreed um she came to the decision because she is quote such a fluid person okay further explaining why she previously adopted they them she said her energy last year was quote balanced in my masculine and feminine energy

quote when i was faced with the choice of walking into a bathroom and it said women and men, I didn't feel like there was a bathroom for me because I didn't feel necessarily like a woman, the singer added. I didn't feel like a man. I just felt like a human. Lovato said choosing to identify by they, them pronouns at one point for her was about feeling human at your core.

Then she said, quote, recently I've been feeling more feminine and so I've added she, her again, but I think what's important is like nobody's perfect. She said everyone messes up pronouns at some point. And especially when people are learning, it's just all about respect. Okay. I really can't stress enough how much I appreciate that. Because obviously like I try and keep up with everyone's pronouns.

But I'm not always going to get it right. And like sometimes sometimes especially like you know um you know the certain type of internet user like usually like white woman like thinking they're saving the earth like when we talk about Halsey or we talk about Trisha Paytas I know both of them go by she her and they them pronouns so more often than not for me like I'm gonna go with she her just because it's simpler for me to remember and a court like they say it's fine so I use it um Halsey goes by Dana like I'm intentionally out here trying to undermine someone's identity which is not the fucking case first of all so I appreciate

um and I feel like whenever she talks about her pronouns she always throws that in in the end like I understand people are gonna like take a minute to adjust and I appreciate that because it could be especially when like you talk about celebrities for a living and you talk so fast like you're not always thinking what pronoun they identify as um I appreciate the the leeway um she gives us here and always wanting what's best for Demi you know like live your life girly yeah do what you got to do i'm curious if you've seen any what the people are feeling about this decision well demi lovato is just currently like not in a well-liked phase of her career and of course we all know it started with the with the diet um frozen yogurt right um so i don't think people really have like people really care not care but like i don't think people

right now are disgusting discussing whether you know demi's pronoun like I don't think people right now are disgusting discussing whether you know Demi's pronoun like I don't think that's what people are talking about when it comes to Demi Lovato I think they're talking about like we're not into Demi right now I think that's the general and maybe I'm wrong so feel free to correct me because I was curious what the temperature would be about this because it doesn't seem like something that like one should do lightly it's just like today I was feeling this way and tomorrow I'm feeling that way and I feel like um for maybe people in the trans or non-binary community this is kind of like an affront to them that like

I'm gonna be this today and that tomorrow and also like detransitioning is a huge deal and we read a book about it for the redheads detransition baby and learn more about like detransitioning and like uh the role that it plays like in the trans community so i would imagine that like someone like her doing this in this way and just kind of being it feels flippant about it okay so i see how like you could see it that way but i think and again i'm not a part of the community, so I don't know what the general consensus is, but I think they embrace fluidity, like gender, not being like a construct and like almost like not having to abide by one or

the other. And I think like they embrace that type of, I don't think they would see it as flippant. I think they would see it as fluid, which I think, uh, the, you know,

the non-binary community embraces I think again I'm not non-binary and I don't know like a ton about how they feel but I think that the general consensus from the community is like do whatever makes you feel good whenever okay I think okay and if you're able to explain to us like in the comments and like not in a you know Karen Karen sort of way I'm genuinely curious like if this is no but I think the question that you were getting at that I do agree with is like what is the non-binary community's thoughts on Demi in general as like because remember the the trans community was like not happy about having Caitlyn Jenner as like a you know kind of not a spokesperson but a

representative for the community and is the non-binary community like happy, you know, to have Demi be like a very public face of pronouns and non-binary-ness? Yeah. I don't know. I don't think people like right now are like loving Demi. I just think her public image has been like a little chaotic in the last couple of years and people might be fatigued by that. But I don't know if that also is. If that has anything to do with this and if it's uh you know shaping how people view her decision yeah yeah yeah but I am genuinely curious so LMK LMK are you ready for our next story crazy celeb memoir news Jeanette McCurdy has written uh her memoirs I've been waiting for Jeanette McCurdy to like dead ass spill every fact about her childhood in a concise way for a long time.

She's alluded to it, but she's never really like been out there about it. Okay, well, her memoir is called I'm Glad My Mom Died. I did know that that was the name of it. I thought that was, you know, very catchy.

And she is on the cover holding an urn, a pink urn. So I'm assuming her relationship with her mom was not the best. Was not good. So Entertainment Weekly has received an excerpt from the book tinkern so i'm assuming her relationship with her mom was not was not good so um entertainment weekly has received an excerpt from the book where she talks about her for i carly audition like auditions before that and how like it affected her mom she talked about one audition

where she didn't get the job and how her mom like had a breakdown oh god when she got i carly like she thought it was going to be like the best thing ever because finally her mom would be happy. And, um, Oh, that's really sad. Yeah. It seems really, really sad, but this is the book it's on sale on August 9th. So you should read it. Yeah. Well that, um, I actually might read it if I can find the time. Yeah. I wonder if the book is about mostly her relationship with her mom. I mean, even just that thing you just said, it's like so much pressure to put on a little kid and can really fuck you up. So I imagine her relationship with her mom I mean even just that thing you just said it's like so much pressure to put on a little kid and can really fuck you up so I imagine her relationship with her mom never you know got better um and I I do think that would be interesting to read but also you know as someone of a Nickelodeon historian like I'm extremely interested in the you know I don't

want to say I don't want to get in trouble I don't want to get in trouble. I don't know why. Oh, you think that she'll talk about him? Well, I don't know if she will, but I think of all the people who are in public life post that Nickelodeon time, she's been the most vocal, but still not in a really kind of clear and lucid way. And a book is a great place to do that. Yeah, yeah. And the quotes on the cover,

Gerard Carmichael calls it impressively funny and Lena Dunham calls it an important, important cultural document. Not to ruin the book for you. No, no. Who's the first person? Gerard Carmichael. Oh, comedian. Yeah.

Lena Dunham. That's that's interesting for sure. Yikes. Cool. Cool. I do think it's interesting. Like, you know, iCarly is now i think they just got renewed for their third season in their like revival she's not a part of it though she's

like available and of course uh but she's not interested she also had said on a podcast years ago that like most of the time she spent doing that show those shows i carly sam and cat like she was embarrassed for the content that was being put out and you know what like respect because I agree I agree you need to read this book you need to report back because you're looking for books to read I am like celebrity memoirs and you're always wanting to hear from Jeanette yeah no and um there's like this is a a person whose story like I have followed for many years so you will be reporting back on August 10th is what you're saying I really wish her the best I get the vibe that like her time on nickelodeon was so damaging to her mental health like

And the fact that and what I find so interesting about this whole Nickelodeon thing is like There are people from the show who have like very quietly like spoken out about it and like It was so damaging for them and then there are other people like ariana grande like she came from there, too And there's like so many people who are thriving, doing amazing. And so many who are like the exact opposite. So I just don't understand how that works. Well, I imagine it has a lot to do with your family and like your child star.

And so it's like, what is your home life like? I think Ari's mom is like, she's so close with her mom. So she had a really good support system. She has her brother who she's really close with. That's so true but if you are like you know you have a stage mom and you are the sole earner in your family like it can go the other way yeah I actually remember watching a million years ago an interview um that Kiki Palmer did about that like how being the youngest and like the the income earner in your family is so toxic and like it can really and more often than not it

does lead to like irreparable damage within the family yeah so toxic and like it can really and more often than not it does lead to like irreparable damage within the family yeah so that must happen a lot with like child stars yeah and I think Ari like also came from money so it she didn't have that wasn't as big of a deal but like no when when the when the kid is the one who brings you like out of a bad financial place it's very toxic yeah you know Josh Peck talked a little bit about it in his book but him and his mom he was raised by a single mom and they were like so close. And he was the one who wanted to go out for every audition. And she was like, are you sure? Are you sure? And then when he started making money, like he, he was so excited about it just so he could pay his mom back. It was so

sweet. Like, and, and I think like to this day, like everything he does, like he does for his mom, it was really sweet. Josh Peck's book is like one of a celebrity memoir that like I keep thinking about. It was so good. I really recommend. I absolutely have to read it because the thing about a celebrity memoir is like, even if it's not someone that you're so obsessed with,

like I'm reading this Carrie White book and like, it's so good. I don't even know who she was. I didn't even know it was a celebrity memoir. Just Lauren Bossick said to read it. And it was like about, the subtitle is like my glamorous life in Hollywood. And I'm like, great, here I go. I thought maybe it was fiction. I didn't even know it was a celebrity memoir. It just Lauren Bossick said to read it. And it was like about, the subtitle is like my glamorous life in Hollywood. Fabulous.

And I'm like, great, here I go. Yeah. I thought maybe it was fiction. I didn't fucking know. So I think that when someone has a story to tell anyone, it doesn't even have to be a celebrity. Someone you're a fan of. It's just a memoir.

Yeah. It's worth reading. Right, like Josh Peck's had like so many layers. Like, of course you want to read about the Drake and Josh of it all. And that was super interesting. But like the four years where he was like had a terrible addiction problem then the weight loss like there were so many layers of it it was so good okay so you'll be reading this and he's funny like you'll be reading it yeah um I'm gonna try

yeah okay I haven't been in like my celebrity memoir you know mood recently but there are many I want to pick up like I've been meaning to read the Colin Jost one for like a thousand years I've heard it's good but I just never even like I never I never even like to start typing it in my kindle you know what I mean I think you should read that no no wait for I was gonna say you should read that today because you're a book a day and you just finished a book that you hate but I don't want you to read a memoir and then like get fatigued because you need to do the homework on this one for us. Okay. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? Which is so sad.

Like today's episode is just depression. Okay. What is it? Ferris Bueller actress Edie McClurg is a victim of elder abuse. Her family claims, you know her from Ferris Bueller. Oh my God, of course. Yeah. Just Google her.

You'll remember her. She was like the school secretary. Yes. Oh my iconic Bob. Like she had the Tracy Turnblad hair. Yes. Or did Tracy have her hair? Oh, she was like the school secretary? Yes. Oh, my iconic Bob. Like she had the Tracy Turnblad hair. Yes. Or did Tracy have her hair? Oh, great question.

But the family of actress Edie McClurg has claimed that she's a victim of elder abuse. In court documents seen by the Post, the family of the star, who lives in LA and suffers from dementia, allege that she was abused by a man claiming to be a longtime friend who reportedly attempted to take her out of California

to marry her. The documents filed in the Superior Courts of California named the alleged abuser as Michael Ramos, who has reportedly been living at her home since 2017. She is 76 years old. According to the documents, he is unemployed and does not pay rent or any expenses and was able to finagle his way into her life, reportedly attempting to move her out of California in order to marry her despite her dementia diagnosis the documents also claim that he allegedly quote sexually assaulted her current caregiver with a report filed with the

la police department in addition the caregiver was worried that he has or may be assaulting the conservatee and that she may not even know that it's happening to her oh my god stop wait i'm this is literally the worst story why wait i'm like so upset elder abuse of course any abuse is horrible but there's something particularly evil about elder abuse yeah whether it's like financial physical sexual and this sounds like it's all three um is so fucking evil if i ever meet this man in a dark alley like i will literally i would kill him like that's so fucking evil yeah oh oh i'm upset to any person like not even the fact that she's famous like and you know what's so sad is like elder abuse is extremely common yeah i'm only hearing about this because she's like yeah you could say philip spieler and celebrity yeah very this is so upsetting so upsetting at the very least i hope it shines

a spotlight though on elder abuse but i agree anybody who would take advantage of someone who's so vulnerable who like can't defend themselves and also doesn't even have the presence of mind right Right. Is disgusting. Evil. Should burn in hell. Yeah. For real. That was like that story.

Remember from a few years ago of the coma patient who was pregnant? Of course. That was a story that changed the nation. Yeah. Oh my God. Also stories that changed the nation. I was on TikTok and I'm telling you, they tell you you don't find out anything interesting on TikTok. Not true.

Have you heard about Carolyn Bryant? Okay. Do you know the story of Emmett Till, the 14 year old boy during the civil? Okay. So I saw that she emerged from her house. She's alive. I didn't even know that. And the Daily Mail got paparazzi pictures of her.

She's like 94 or whatever. And now people are saying like, she, she's in hospice. So it's like, are we going to, um, is should, should they prosecute her? she she's in hospice so it's like are we gonna um is should should they prosecute her because she's like 95 and technically I think when you're like a certain age or you're like really sick they don't prosecute you because you're gonna die soon but everyone's like no get her um I could not believe that this woman was alive because I was just watching when I was in the airport they were doing an interview with Whoopi Goldberg she is um a producer on they're making a movie about emmett till and i was like

damn that's so crazy so like the story was like fresh in my mind and then i'm like wait because you feel like this stuff happened so long ago yeah this bitch is still alive so people didn't know she was alive or like she was just saying i think the last sighting of her or last we heard of her was like 2004 okay um so nobody really knew if she died or what she was up to but the daily mail i guess was like following her around and they got paparazzi pictures of her that's crazy it's crazy and they say she's 94 in hospice and in the pictures she looks sprightly as fuck I just want to say she looked like and by the way if you're in hospice I don't think you're like walking around she was walking her dog and the Daily Mail like reporter went up to her and her son was there like standing in front of

her like no comment no comment it's a crazy story like it's crazy i couldn't believe it how did the daily mail even know where to go she lives in kentucky i don't know the daily mail is crazy yeah but like she's been obviously living completely under the radar for years and i don't think anybody knew of like a physical sighting of her since 2004 wow but i guess they knew she was alive because like death records are public records. Somebody has been keeping up with this. And they found her. Wow. It was gave me such a chill. Like it was such a crazy story. She is such a crazy story. Yeah. Well, our next story switching gears Selena Gomez will reboot Melanie Griffith's 80s comedy

Working Girl, say reports. Yes. Selena Gomez is reportedly in talks to remake working girl the 1988 mike nichols directed comedy starting melanie griffith and harrison ford one thing about me these days like selena gomez is doing something boom support it subscribing i've been living for selena and i've been keeping an eye out for her too oh you've got to you gotta keep an eye out for selena i mean this is a great first of all working girl reboot it's what the world needs even though she's probably like working from home and like oh i hope it's not like uh she's not doing okay no it's because honestly it has potential to be like um like younger wait why can't i remember the name of that show the one i loved on freeform

bull type bull type that's younger it's the same thing yeah it's giving bull type right um i hope it's not like COVID No but like If it's like 2022 She's working from home girl No no Hopefully it's like

She's fabulous In like a high rise In some major city But that's not reality today Like I think that The reason my working girl In 1988 was So good

Because it captured It captured the spirit Of the working girl In 1988 And I think so many girls Watch it and it's like That's me with my sneakers And my heels.

Right, right, right. The blazer, the suit. But that, you know, fashion girly energy. Doesn't really exist. Doesn't exist right now. Yeah, that's so true. Oh no, I'm upset. Maybe we need Selina to bring it back.

100%. Have they cast anyone else? Joan Cusack? Who's playing Joan Cusack? I'm not sure, but it will air on Hulu according to Entertainment Weekly. Wait, did you see that Selena was hanging out with Francia Reisa, the friend who gave her the kidney who like they haven't been friends for literally three years. Then they were out making TikToks like everything's fine. Oh, good. Yeah. That made me happy because

that was nefarious. That was nefarious. Like you couldn't say it without the Selena fans. A friend who gives you a kidney is a friend for life. Right. So what happened? But now the girlies seem to be doing really well. Okay, good. Together,

which was a huge relief for me in my new Selenator era. But I think that also helps you in your new era because that was something that just like wasn't adding up. Sitting right. It wasn't sitting right.

But now everything sits right. We're all good. We're all good. We're sitting perfectly. I really look forward to hearing more about this project. Yeah, and Selena's

partnership with Hulu has turned out to be extremely fruitful. Obviously only murders. I'm loving this. Selena's just been killing it. I was actually scrolling TikTok

of course yesterday and like a fan account was posting clips of her from Selena plus Chef. And then it really got me thinking like she has not dated publicly or at least

like with a celebrity in such a long time. We get off the list. Yeah. Well, we have to add her to the list. Yeah, we do. I feel like she's extremely cautious of dating in the public eye and who she chooses, obviously, because her relationship with Justin was so tumultuous.

Which means we already had this conversation where I said Selena Gomez and Michael B. Jordan. I love that. No, Selena Gomez and Chris Evans was like, they and Michael B. Jordan. I love that. No Selena Gomez and Chris Evans was like they were briefly linked. Yeah. Not in any like confirmed way but ever since then it's all I can think about. Yeah there's really not really someone for her here. And she's like so famous that she really would have a hard time finding a like a commoner. Try a businessman beau. She needs yeah like a like um like a tech. She needs like an Evan Spiegel. Yeah. Evan a businessman beau. She needs, yeah, like a tech. She needs like an Evan Spiegel.

Evan Spiegel is literally like the dream. Yeah, who's the CEO of Be Real? Love. Except I don't think it's like successful enough for him to like have enough money. Or her. Sorry, wow look at me. Or her. Like the next big thing, you know, or the CEO of TikTok

or something, you know. She loves TikTok.ok oh does she yeah maybe taylor swift's brother okay alexis is that a girl i'm not sure because oh no it's a man is he cute like kind of i can't really like see but here he is the ceo of the bike extremely cute he's fit perfect found it selena set it up yeah set it up i like this um working girls like usually like i roll my eyes at reboots and stuff but like this is cute this is cute i mean what else is cute solo stove oh yes oh now that you have like a full on backyard, you can whip yours out year round. Yep. Life's best moments happen around a roaring fire.

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Of course. Twins who married twins. I saw this. And gave birth. To twins. Twins who married twins and gave birth to twins. Twins who married twins gave birth to genetic siblings. They say they're, quote, wait, what? Yeah, because twins, identical twins have the same DNA.

So if it's, you know, let's say it's Jane and John. Well, Jane and it's Jackie and Claudia have the same DNA. Yeah. And so Olivia and Mar okay have the same DNA yeah and so Olivia and Margo Olivia and Margo have the same DNA too so if you do Jackie and Olivia it's the same DNA the brothers in a different family no no okay their kids are all that was a bad example because now we're getting oh I get it because their kids are 50% of each of them. And their 50% are all the same. Right, right, right. So what does that make the two kids?

Twins? Siblings. Not twins. Not twins. They don't have identical DNA. No, because it could have been any combo of- So wait, did each couple give birth to single kids or twins? Singles.

Got it. And so those two single kids have the exact same DNA. Yes. How has this never happened before? I mean, you would have to find identical, maybe it's happened in the history of the world time, but there was no people magazine to source them and write it up in TLC to

give them a show. You have to have identical twin females and identical twin males who all love each other enough to get married and have kids. So the cousins are also siblings and the siblings are also cousins. Yeah. That is crazy. And this was something these twins did intentionally. Like they sought out this result.

It wasn't just happenstance that they both fell in love with identical twins. Yeah. They realized, you know, they said, quote, we were like, oh my gosh, our dream has come true. How lucky are we that we get to live it? The sisters had always wanted to marry identical twins and share their lives together. The journey to start this heartwarming moment

has been better than they could have imagined. It's like a weird dream to have. You know, some people dream of going to space, becoming a pop star. It's just weird to like dream of having kids who are 100% DNA matched. I think when you're an identical twin. You have interesting interests.

Yeah, and like just your take on life. Is different. Is different. You know, everyone has things about them that frame what they think about, you know, how they live their life. Just, you know, random quirks about them. And I think being a twin is like a really big,

I would say for me, it's like being a redhead. Like has completely changed. Like it's integral to who you are who i am for sure for sure um this is just a crazy story i read the headline and i just i didn't put together that the kids were like a match genetic sending 23 and me like they're they're spiraling yeah like they're they don't understand this is so crazy and weird um but I'm happy And I saw a picture of the families Like you know Unique looking And I think that's great But also what's crazy

Is they all look like twins obviously But they're not I would be able to tell these people apart If I spent enough time with them Right right But also Yeah yeah that's true And the kids names are Jet and Jax

Jax and Claude That just seems intentionally confusing No but they call him Jax Because it's short for Jax and Claude Oh and they call him Jet Because it's short for Jackson Claude. Oh, and they call him Jet because it's short for the Jets and the Sharks. Exactly. Right.

Okay, cool, cool, cool. No, but they want to be this one big happy family. Well, good, because it's the one they got. That's definitely, you know, you can rely on People Magazine for finding shit like this. And for that, we're grateful to them and the work that they do. We think it's like a submission box on their website because like every time when i'm in an airport and i'm buying a magazine like i'm usually going to buy people because it's the biggest it has the best pictures and the best um crossword puzzle we'll find a submission like do they have like hey are you a freak like do you they're literally the modern day pt barnum like like how do they find they're always like man who

was chained to a well for 65 years comes out with a 19 pound scrotum like they always find this crazy shit hey are you a freak like no it's like those signs pt barnT. Barnum in the movie, Greatest Showman. He was putting up like freaks, dogs. That's what they do. But I want to know how do they gather these stories. They're hunters and gatherers. Yeah, how do they source talent? Right, because I know for a fact, like when you're watching Jerry Springer, like they have an ad like do you want to be on our show send an email like that's how they source the information so i'm just curious what people's method of sourcing is that's all i was saying

it's simply i think though there's a box that says hey are you a freak if you scroll the website who isn't a freak call. Who's not a little freaky sometimes? Well, we're about to find out in Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment, where we try and help three forlorn toasters come to the conclusions that they need to come to. So deartoasters at gmail.com is the email if you want to write in. Thank you to everyone for being open and vulnerable with us in this time. And let's dive in. Hey, Jackson Claude.

Hey. Love you guys and needed to write in to ensure that I'm not overreacting. About a month ago, my husband and I moved to a new state and made a group of friends in our neighborhood. These friends are all mostly couples and we really hit it off. The husbands and boyfriends in the group decided they wanted to take a weekend trip fishing. Flash forward to the weekend of the trip while the wives and girlfriends are at the neighborhood pool. One of the girlfriends mentions how their man took mushrooms and Coke on the trip. All the other women began to talk and joke about how their men had told them about it and how they thought it was so funny. Meanwhile, I'm completely shocked as my husband didn't mention it at all. I was seemingly the

only wife who hadn't been told. Naturally, I discreetly texted my husband and asked him within a few minutes. One of the other wives gets a text from their husband. It basically says he was just told by my husband that I wasn't happy about the drugs. She announced to the group what the text said and completely embarrassed me. My husband says he did not partake and he didn't mention it to me because he didn't want to get anyone in trouble, as he didn't know that the other husbands had told their wives. Do I have the right to feel like my husband lied to me? Why would he have more loyalty to these new friends than he has to me?

I'm frustrated by the whole situation, but I also struggle with coming off as a losery wife. Help. Sincerely, a toaster who is avoiding the neighborhood pool and her husband today wait I know you're like mad at like the husband thing but like I would be more mad that he literally like ratted on you to the other women yeah that's what I would be mad about who cares if you're the losery wife by the way being the wife who doesn't want her husband doing mushrooms and coke like that's it's completely crazy like that's fine yeah what would bother me is like you got a text from me showing my concern about something

and you showed it to all the other guys that's like an invasion of privacy that's just like it's a lapse in judgment for assuming he's a good man and you love him and i'm sure that he is those things because he's your husband it's a lapse in judgment where he got carried away like you know this is a new group of friends like i'm gonna show them like my you know i got the ball and chain yeah right how she feels um and that's you need to be like never again like that's him not considering you at all like how that makes you look how that makes the other women feel about you like that part would piss me off more yeah than the drugs thing the drugs thing wouldn't piss me off because I couldn't like if it were

my husband first of all maybe he didn't know about it going into it he's not gonna do it there and when he comes home he'll be like by the way the guys did this and that he doesn't need to like report to you and be like mom there's drugs on the trip like right we're grown people I personally wouldn't think so especially if he if he's not doing it but if he's doing those things and wasn't going to tell you like till after I think that's a little dishonest but if it's just there I think it's totally fine that he didn't tell you yet. I would assume, though, eventually he would. Yeah, no. And I guess like maybe you're not upset about the text thing, but like I am.

That really would bother me. Yeah. And then like the other girl like reading it. I didn't send a text to the group. Right. The other girl. I sent the text to you. The other girl reading it like out loud to everyone.

Like that's so fucking obnoxious of her, by the way. But it's 100% your husband's fault. And like you need to explain that to him. And I'm all for you guys like having this cup like you move to a new place you found couples that you like you have like the girls and the guys the sharks and the jets but something about this is like a little um like high school agreed and i just think you should keep your friends and and whatever but just mentally like take a one sliver of a step back yes don't get too involved with all of this.

It really showed you like the negative side of the group. So just keep that in mind. Like you don't have to not be friends with them anymore. But like I wouldn't tell everyone your deepest darkest secrets. Because obviously this group is fucking chatty as fuck. Yeah. But it sounds like a fun group. You know like fishing.

Pool. Mushrooms. Fun. Fun. Fun. Sounds like a book. It does. And that's like the first red flag thing that happens.

Where like the bitchy girl in the group, her name's always Margo. It's always Margo. I knew you were going to say that. She was like, did you tell your husband? And like you're embarrassed. But you're like, no, Margo didn't mean it. It was just a miscommunication.

Right, right. She would never, Margo. Next thing you know, Margo's burying a body in the woods. A hundred percent. That's always how it happens. That's always how it happens. And it's always Margo. All right, next up.

Hey, ladies, I'll try to keep this short and and sweet but i've got a situation on my hands my fiance and i are getting married in september and my fiance's parents have graciously agreed to pay for our entire wedding and honeymoon i seriously can't believe i'm actually getting my dream wedding and it's really all thanks to them the only thing is my boyfriend just nervously told me his parents will be joining us for our honeymoon it is so nice that they're paying for everything but them coming on our honeymoon is insane my white lotus white lotus my husband agrees but is also too scared to say anything do i suck it up everything is already booked so it's just a horrible predicament i'm in and i don't know what to do please help out a fellow floridian toaster

that's like really manipulative it's not a honeymoon yeah no and normally like i'm all for you know putting on a smile just to get what you want um and if she was being a monster about the wedding, I would be like, you know what? She's paying for it. Just shut up. But honeymoon is taking it a little too far. I don't think there's one person watching or who would hear this story who would think that that's a normal thing to do. No, you absolutely can't let her come.

And you also cannot say anything. Your boyfriend has to. And your boyfriend also has to be the one to claim it was was his idea not you like it'll make you look bad this is what in the engagement process like it is important to note that like any communication between a bride and the in-laws must go through the husband and be like the husband's original idea and then the communication between the husband and the in-laws should go through the groom and it should be like the wife the bride and be like the bride's idea like the communication during the engagement process is really delicate so your husband absolutely has to be the one to break it to his parents that they cannot come and it has he can't be like oh sarah said she didn't want you

to come and like sell you down the river like moses but that's what engagements and like planning a wedding and all of these things it's actually like a trial of for marriage you have like micro courses and all these different things communication in-laws finances planning this that and it's really a test and now you're being put to the test will you pass yeah i'll see you can't let this go like you absolutely have to do something about it i mean what's the point of going on the honeymoon night with a save your money and stay home and take a check like oh or you get the family together for like family night and you watch white lotus and you'd be like that's crazy a mom going on someone's honeymoon that's funny if if the other way doesn't work try that or just stay home be like oh that's my option i'll

stay home thanks for the wedding girl at least we get have private alone time together that's insane by the way insane um okay we have one more dear toasters and it's brought to you by modern fertility we've always been big fans of planning ahead scheduling trips plotting our career moves figuring out what we're doing for dinner but we've never get well i have never given much thought to planning for kids but that's why modern fertility was created it's an easy and affordable way to test your fertility hormones at home with a simple finger prick you mail it with a prepaid label and you'll get your personalized results within 10 days. You'll get insight into your hormone levels,

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when you go to modernfertility.com slash toast, modernfertility.com slash toast. modernfertility.com slash toast. All right. Final tier toaster is a little lengthy. Hey, Jackson Claude. I'm married to an amazing man and I have the greatest relationship with his parents. They've been so helpful with the baby and are over the moon excited since this is their first grandchild. When it comes to what they want to be called as grandparents, I think it should be up to the child and see what cute nicknames they come up with. However, my mother-in-law has given herself the name of Mama. She never asked me if I think it's okay, and I feel like I'm going crazy that no one else finds it weird. She is now

constantly referring to herself in the third person as Mama, and she's even gone as far as wearing jewelry that says Mama on it. Every time I hear her say Mama, my stomach drops. I've never wanted to be called Mommy. I've always preferred the name mama for myself. It's what I call my own mother. I mentioned this a year ago when the conversation was brought up before I was even pregnant, but it seems to be forgotten or ignored. I find it so rude that she's taking the name for me and she doesn't find it strange. I'm losing sleep over this issue and thinking of when my baby starts to speak and their

first word will be mama and my mother-in-law will claim that it's about her. She also makes comments about how it's her baby and how the baby just looks like her and my husband it's like her first grandchild so i get the obsession but it's my first baby also and i feel as though she's taking all of this from me i feel like i might explode one day and i don't want to build up resentment what i want to say is listen bitch i carried this baby for nine months my body will never be the same it feeds off of my tits and I haven't slept in months. I am mama. Say it.

I am mama. But I hate confrontation more than anything. Wait, sorry. I hate confrontation more than anyone. So that would never happen. But it's how I feel. I do love my mother-in-law and I see how much joy my child brings her. So I can never say anything to hurt her feelings.

I also don't want to make this a big thing by bringing it up to my husband. And I'm worried it would upset him even though i have a feeling he would agree with me i just don't want him to think i'm not grateful for his mom who does so much for us please help sincerely she ain't your mama blow it up girl no this is another thing your husband has to take care of this wench for sure and i feel like he might be like oh i thought it was weird too but you didn't say anything so So I thought you were fine with it. This is not okay. This is not acceptable.

Not normal to stop, especially before your baby can actually speak. And it's confused. Like who is my mama? Mama is only for the mother. She could be called grandmama if that's what she wants, but you need to put your foot down now. If you really can't find a way, it doesn't have to be confrontational. You don't have to scream at her, but if you can't find a way to voice how you're feeling

to her, then tell your husband that he has to do it because if this is making you lose sleep at night like as new mamas we have so much on our plate so true so many things that you worry about as you're falling asleep at night you can't also be worried about who does my child think is his mama because my mother-in-law is feeling like you know it's she somehow is no no no no no and you know what I'm glad you wrote into us because if you've been experiencing this like on your own maybe you're not entirely sure if you're overreacting but I hope that the very strong reaction Jackie and I have had and I'm sure people in the comments will have will empower you to be like no no I'm not crazy like I'm justified in being angry

this is psychotic and you must nip it in the bud psychotic psychotic and if even after being spoken to like she's not accepting like there is a psycho in your presence 100 100 get rid of her like you get rid of her also as a new mama like if anything is bothering you even if whether you're justified or not like it it has to go right whatever it is it has to go because you have too much going on especially like you're breastfeeding. It's can't, you can't tolerate things that do not serve you. But this is not even an arbitrary, like, is it okay? Is it not okay?

Sort of thing. You're a hundred percent justified. Everything you feel is valid. Get rid of her. Get rid of her. Yeah. You say you call yourself mama in my house one more time. It's the last time in my house The jewelry The jewelry

Like I'm embarrassed Embarrassed I feel shame for her The jewelry It feels like she's definitely working out some like unresolved trauma From her youth Because this is like seriously like psychotic behavior Like I say to Harry

Like I'm your mom like as a fucking joke Like I know it's psychotic yeah wait did you write this in about me no no this is yeah did you okay where's your jewelry that's a good call um this is really like unwell behavior and you must address it immediately your husband specifically like whatever route is the easiest for you to address it whether it's a letter in the mail i don't really the delivery does not matter here just the message agreed agreed message must be received and those were the three dear toaster submissions i would like to thank everyone who

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