The Toast - S5 Ep135: Cautionary Tales: Thursday, September 22nd, 2022

Episode Date: September 22, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials! it's so exciting and yeah it's a big deal it's just a big deal no matter where you are who you are what you're going through um it's Thursday unless you live in Australia to which I believe it's Friday so I'm even happier for you even better we're huge in Australia that's like what happens when you have a global brand yeah you make it to Australia 100 A hundred percent. What's new with you on this fine morning? So much. I wanted to share, um, like a really scary situation that happened to me yesterday.

One, cause it's crazy. And two, because I feel like I wish I had listened to a podcast where somebody documented this experience. So I would have been less scared and known that like, it's not normal, but like it's,

it just happens. So yesterday I went downtown for, I told you, Theo's Bar Khmetsva. I did a partnership with Amazon and we threw a little party for Theo. It was so fun. It was all the way downtown and the streets are on fire because of the UN General Assembly. The president is in town. So I took the train. And I'm on the train and I don't have a seat.

Which I like hate, but whatever. So I took the train. And I'm on the train, and I don't have a seat, which I, like, hate. But whatever. Like, I lived. And then we stopped somewhere busy, and the train kind of cleared out. So we walked over to the seats that had opened up. And on my way over there, I banged my funny bone, which, like, hurt, but it wasn't the end of the world. So I realized, like, 25 seconds later, like, my elbow is still hurting me. And I turned to my side to chat with the person I'm sitting next to, not a stranger, someone I know.

And as I'm turning, I hit my funny bone again. And I'm like, oh my God, I hit it again. And this time it hurt like, like true pain, not like the tingling sensation of a funny bone that like makes you giggle. True to my core core physical fucking pain and I said I was like oh my god that hurts so bad I actually feel nauseous and once I said that I entered into like a medical crisis I had a full-bl seconds, no, two minute. I think the whole thing probably lasted two minutes, two minute panic attack. I thought I was going to vomit. I got so nauseous.

I thought I was going to faint. Like I didn't even have enough energy to sit up straight. I was like, I might have to lay on the floor of the subway because I'm not okay. I started profusely overheating when the subway was actually freezing. I was sitting under an air conditioning vent. That's why I chose the seat. I started to drip with sweat. Like I had done six soul cycle classes in a row, beads of sweat coming out of every orifice of my body. My clothes became immediately drenched. I put my hand behind my neck. I walked, I took out my hand. You would have thought I had just washed my hands before I tried them. It was so crazy. I'm freaking out. I'm like panicked. I'm like, what is going on?

I feel nauseous. I think I'm going to faint. Oh my God. I'm like embarrassed. Everyone's looking at me sweating, sweating, sweating, sweating, sweating. I started like just focusing on my breathing. Thank God I had a ponytail and water. I literally just started like chugging water, put my hair up. I'm sweating like I've never sweat in my life, focusing on my breathing. All in all, the whole ordeal lasted two minutes and like I started to come out of it and I still didn't feel 100 percent, but I was not as bad as I was. And by the time I got all the way down to Canal Street, like I had fully recovered, I was just like shook by this thing. And it was kind of all I could think about

like for the rest of the day. And then last night, I had some girlies over because we're going to talk about how we got a screener to watch Luckiest Girl Alive. You watched it last night. I watched it last night.

I invited some people over. And I was telling everyone about my treacherous day. And Dana, one of your best friends from college, co-host of the Redheads. You all know Dana. Her author of the beautiful hit song, My Judy Brown.

Her face like drains its blood. She's like, Claudia. I'm like, what? She's like, the same thing happened to me last week. I was freaking out. And what's so weird is that it happened to her on the train too. She was going to Amy Schumer at Madison Square Garden and they got off on Penn Station

and she like snapped her ankle. And after that happened, she proceeded to have like a full blown three minute panic attack. She laid down on the floor of Penn Station. She told her husband, like, go find me some cold water. Like, I'm going to lay here on the floor. And it like was a couple of minutes. And then she came out of it. Like she, like, when I tell you the validation I felt knowing somebody else had had that experience, because I was like, I'm medically not okay, she told me what it was called, hold on, I texted her last night, so I could google, like, what the name was, it's called vasovagal syncope, synope, syncope, I Googled it. It's like when, you know, like something happens to your body that just causes your body to go into like fight or flight mode. And like your

blood pressure just drops immediately. And you feel like you're having an anxiety attack. You are profusely sweating. You are nauseous. You think you're going to faint. My elbow still hurts like really bad. I don't know what I did to like bang it up so bad. It wasn't even that hard of like a kerfuffle. I just want anyone to know like if something like that happens to you, like it's normal and you really, in order to get rid of it immediately, you have to clench your fists and like move your legs. And they say even singing can help.

Just raises your blood pressure. Not the singing. If I had known, I would have become a subway performer. There were nights of endless pleasure. Yeah, they see this girl. She's on the outs. All of a sudden, she sings herself back to life. She sings herself back to life.

Now, I just want to say, I'm sorry that that happened to you. It was so scary. And could it have happened on like a worse place, like a panic attack on the subway? Like so many people, so far from home. Oh, and by the way, as it was happening, was like one of those situations where you're stuck between stations because like the train in front of you is being

slow so I'm like feeling a little claustrophobic like it was fucking horrible yeah so overall how was the subway fine it wasn't the subway's fault that I'm literally unwell I don't know I feel like there's three factors. In both your and Dana's situations. Like one. The pain. Caused. The injury.

This anxiety. But I think the fact. Maybe that it happened underground. Compounds the anxiety. Exacerbated. You know. Yeah. I think if I had been at home.

I wouldn't have been so scared. Yeah. I think the anxiety part. Of my anxiety attack. Might have been. Like a little lessened. But. That's just just what happens when your blood pressure drops like really dramatically um and I think I would have been freaking out no matter where I was but I think yes the fact that I wasn't at home I was in a large crowd I was underground I was like stuck between stations

I was like thinking of maybe getting off on the next station but like I could not fucking move yeah well all I have to say also is thank god Dr. Theodore Fichemin was with you because if this was a medical crisis he would have known what to do no thank god I wasn't alone because like I was like panicked that like Theo would jump out of my seat and run off at the next station yeah thank god I wasn't alone like I was I would have been so so scared if I was alone because like I just I just like shoved Theo in Lizzie's lap and like I just sat there like focusing on myself oh my god but if I had to care for another like living being on my own I would have freaked out yeah damn it was like seriously top 15 scariest moments of my life wow so that's a thing by the way like sometimes you can just randomly injure yourself and then have a panic attack and they say when you break a bone, you know that it's really broken

because right after you break it, you get very nauseous. That's like a thing. Okay. Look, we're learning so many new things. So I was like, did I break my elbow? No. No. It was horrible.

I'm so sorry. But I'm okay. And Theo was bark mitzvahed at the end of this treacherous journey. Yeah. So all of that. I just think that's kind of like the Jewish way of existing. Like in order to celebrate a simcha, a celebratory moment. You have to know struggle.

You've got to know struggle. You have to suffer. A hundred percent. So it was a very Jewish day. Theo's bark mitzvah was amazing. Amazon, private brands threw a real soiree. All of his doggy friends came out. All of his human friends came out. It was a beautiful Amazon, private brands, through a real soiree, all of his doggy friends came out. All of his human friends came out.

It was a beautiful affair. Really stunning. And I have a cute vlog coming to my Instagram soon. So don't forget to follow me on Instagram. And you were sheping nachas for your boy? Sheping nachas left, right, center. Nachas everywhere. Oh, I miss that doodadu.

You know, I need to get my do pillow. It's across the room. Maybe for tomorrow. Oh, my brew pillow doodadu. You know, I need to get my do pillow. It's across the room, maybe for tomorrow. Oh, my brew pillow is right over there. So brew is very proud of his cousin. He hopes one day to follow in his bar mitzvah footsteps. If anyone wants to sponsor him. Does Bruno want to, does Bruno, when the time comes,

does he want to read from the Torah? He does because he wants to challenge himself, he said. And he's interested in Talmudic learnings and he thinks that doing that for his bar mitzvah might be the perfect foray into the rabbinical life do you ever think back on things you did like when you were younger and you're just in awe of like the fact that you did that yes I one of the things that like I'm in awe of is the fact that like when we were all bat mitzvahed, for women, it's optional to do like a Torah portion. Not only we did a Torah portion, we did a haft Torah and we did a maftir. Like we did the whole thing. We studied with a rabbi

for weeks and months leading up. And honestly, like if you put that shit in front of me right now, I couldn't read it. No, but yeah, you study for weeks and months you listen to it on tape so that you can pretty much like memorize it and yeah it's pretty cool it's pretty it was cool i'm like proud that we did that yeah and also we use trope in everyday life like literally 100 i'm gonna explain what trope is but it's what we do and maybe if we hadn't been bat mitzvahed in that way we wouldn't know to do it but like trope is like the tune of something so just like it's pretty cool like I could do hey Claudia and that would be like right like in the in the Torah in Hebrew there's these things called nekudot it's basically like punctuation they're like these little symbols under different letters and under different words that represent a certain tune. That show you how you should sing that word. So there's like a three dot thing under the word

like, uh, what can I think of a word? Omer. So you'd have to be like, Omer. And anytime you see those three dots, it's Claudia. Yeah. Jacqueline. It depends what like letter in the Hebrew word it's under that's that letter you emphasize so it either could be Jacqueline or Jacqueline you know sort of yes sort of uh anyways it was a lot of work we use trope in everyday life so that's something that we learned for our bat mitzvahs that we carry with us and I think we don't even shout out rabbi platic we don't even realize how much it's a part of our life. So true. So true.

And those little cassettes, we would like tape our lessons with the rabbi and then we'd have to like go home and listen to it. And like it was torture. Like it was so much work. But anything worth having, like your womanhood. Right. Being a woman of God. Woman of God. That's us.

We're such women of God. You could be a Jew and believe in God. She's not a christian um speaking of the truckers for god have arrived um speaking of god we are entering the time of year filled with jewish holidays so just warning like the next couple of weeks are sparse. Wow. The God is really showing up. The truckers for God. They are kind of sparse. We've got Rosh Hashanah, which is the beginning of the new year, which is a good one. You know, food, friends, family, holiday, faith. The Mi Yom Kippur, which is the bad one. It's the day of fast, the day of atonement. It is the worst day of the year. I'm so not looking forward to that, to everyone's breath.

Except this is the first Yom Kippur where I'm in a hardcore reading cycle. And I do feel as though reading is a really helpful way to pass time. Yeah, because you're not going to watch TV, right? Or you are. No. Yeah, no TV, no phone, no food. No fun. No drink. no yeah no tv no phone no food no fun no drink that's the hard part like some people don't even brush their teeth like if you're uber religious and I don't do that not because I'm not religious but because I cannot and I'm literally gonna like suck the water out of all the bristles on my

toothbrush when I wake up yeah thanks to bruce ohuch. Oh, even though. Thanks to Bruch. Thanks to Bruch. Even though getting an IV like the week of fasting really, really helps. I don't know if that's cheating, but like I think I'm going to do it. Do it. That's not cheating. Okay. I'm going to call IV drips and schedule one like for two days before.

I'm just going to, Juliana, drink a lot of water. That's trope. Yeah, you got to drink a lot of water. Trope. That's trope. Trope, trope, trope. Neku dote. Neku dote. water that's a lot of water trope that's trope trope trope trope neck who don't um so yeah that's coming up for us so if there's anything you know with the Jewish New Year if I did anything to upset anyone this year um that's on you and you should stop being so sensitive yeah

no and if I did offend or upset anyone like deal with it no and it's like the time of year where you're supposed to kind of like make amends with everyone so I just want to say like if something I did or said or you know acted in a way this year that kind of bothered anyone or hurt them to their core like that's 100% on you not on me and I'm not sorry no no no no no no no like you should kind of you should spend this time of year like reflecting on why you are the way you are yeah I agree no but those 10 days in between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur we always tell you guys they're like the most critical 10 days in the Jewish calendar it's when the book of life and the book of death are written for the upcoming year so we're on our best behavior you

will not catch me talking crap in the next 10 days no No, no, I don't think we're going to be able to work. I'm not even going to shadily send like a, a Instagram story that I'm finding cringe. Like, yeah, yeah, no, that's going to be tough. It's going to be tough to do our jobs appropriately.

Like if we can't talk shit. Yeah. So if the episodes, like the 10 episodes after next week are bad, like just know it's a, it's a faith thing. If you think they're bad, you're anti-Semitic. And, and we're gonna gonna we'll get back to normal after Yom Kippur they also do say

like if you pass away between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur like the two big holidays during those 10 days where like the book of life is being inscribed like you're an extremely special person and not to make everything about us but our dad did die in those 10 days and that's like one of the few things that brings me solace. Yeah, I think they say straight to heaven. I think that's what they say. Straight to heaven. Like no matter what the fuck you did in your life,

like heaven. Straight to Allah, my ba. Nice. It's a good life, honestly. Like if I could schedule like when I'm going to die, like I would request those days. You would do it right before Yom Kippur? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure. Because that's the way I. You would do it right before Yom Kippur? Oh yeah yeah yeah no for sure because that's

why I don't have to live through another Yom Kippur. So that's a little bit of your Jewish facts daily. It's a very Jewish season coming up so it's top of mind for all of us. It's a very Jewish season coming up so Hava Nagila Hava Nagila. L'chaim. L'chaim to life.

So yes. But let's not mar the mood with Yom Kippur talk. No, no, no. We still have like 15 days and we're going to make the most out of all of them. Every single one. Today, we've got a great episode. We have the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap, which I have a lot to say on. We both watched it.

And I don't think we can necessarily recap it, but let's just quickly talk about the fact that Netflix was generous enough to hand over a screener to Luckiest Girl Alive for us. We both watched it last night. We're not going to like spoil it. We're not going to say how we thought because it's not fair. But you guys know that's Jackie and I's like favorite book of all time.

We've been talking about the movie being made since its inception. Mila Kunis is the star. Connie Britton is in it. Connie Britton was amazing. And yeah, we got to see it last night and we're going to be annoying about it. Yeah.

It's very close to the book, I thought. And I thought it was like 99% perfectly cast and perfectly set up. Like the New York scenes, the Nantucket scenes. Yes. The settings were gorgeous. The Brentley school, like everything is really how I imagined it from the book.

And I don't know that I've had that experience from a book to movie that I've seen recently. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. I don't want to give any thoughts. Like I want to wait until everyone sees it

because I think that's annoying and I don't want to put anything in anyone's brain. Like it was so good or it was so bad. Like because then I'll influence. If you loved the book, watch the movie

and then we'll talk about it. It comes out I think on September 29th or 30th. So next week on Netflix. Not sponsored but like thanks for the screeners and I'm super appreciative and I I would love some more yeah but if there's only ever more special there's only ever gonna be one like I'm so glad that it was our favorite book of all time and that like someone there like saw us and knew that like that book is our personality is important to us yes I also um nothing makes me feel cooler

or more famous and special than getting a screener. They're hard to come by. I mean, some shows just like give them out, you know? Yes. Like they're like, please watch our show. But the good ones, you can't get them. No, they're super hard to come by. Yeah.

We need more screeners. Otherwise we would have been able to watch Kardashians and recap it today right right and I think like a bunch of non-influential losers get the Kardashian screeners and I just opened my Kardashians on Hulu PR box I made like a really cute video um and I'd very much appreciate the screener honestly if you want us to recap it on Thursdays we're gonna need the screeners or we'll just recap it on Fridays and you like the the recaps can be irrelevant right that's on you and like maybe if we don't recap it on Friday then it waits till Monday and then like by then everyone's moved on so yeah right like we're busy

like sorry we're so famous not famous enough to get screeners but okay I'm very appreciative of the PR box it was very cool no I'm obsessed with that 818 hat I made such a funny video the 818 hat is so cool it actually matches my outfit today exactly and I wanted to kind of maybe wear it on the show but I thought with the headphones might be weird it might also in the PR box was the Beats by Kim and that was which I'm just grateful for that was so beyond generous so beyond generous because I want to talk about something okay I want to talk about something. Okay. I want to talk about AirPods. Okay. So I have the OG AirPods, like my first pair I ever bought. And about two years ago, they started to crack out on me and I wasn't giving up.

I'm like, oh, you want to wait 30, you want to last 10 minutes with battery? Bet. I'll fucking, I'm going to use you until I can't use you no more. Mostly because I have, we used to sell like OG toasters. We'll know we used to sell decals for AirPods. So like like my airpods are tricked out in morning toast stickers it's so cool and I wasn't willing to give that up it got to a point recently where like I could not use those as my headphones anymore like they really they're they're broken so then I was like you know I'm gonna get airpods max and I was really excited until I went on the website and I saw they're $600. Like, I'm sorry. That's insane for a pair of headphones. Like that's beyond. The ones that cover your ears.

Yeah. Yeah. They're cool. They're stylish. They're out of control. I'm not spending $600. Like I'm just not. So I was like, all right, let me just get new AirPods. And I was like, I'm obviously going to get the most up to date AirPods. Like because my old ones obviously are not cutting it. So I got the third generation and i don't know who needs to hear this kind of today the theme of today's episode is just like warnings messages people need to hear you do not need to guess yeah you do not need to get the new air pods they are the most literal piece of shit product first of all they're tiny good luck staying in your ear i literally yes that's it yeah good luck staying in your ear

they're fucking tiny they fall out unless i have like big gaping ears which i don't think that i do second of all they're like they show up with these factory settings and i have no fucking idea how to turn them off i'm just listening to music and then siri will come on text from jackie ashrae hey claude how you doing like shut up bitch like shut up I don't know how the fuck to turn it off it's so annoying do not get the third generation airpods max you can buy a brand new version of the old ones I just thought it was like silly to spend money on like the old version no old version perfect I just I think different occasions call for different headphones there's no one perfect headphone I do think airpods are good in like casual settings.

If you're walking in the street, like you don't want something that covers your ears. You need to be able to hear everything. I don't even want noise canceling. You can turn that off in settings. You need to be aware of your surroundings. So I would say for like casual taking like calls or whatever, FaceTiming with headphones, AirPods are fine.

We don't use them for this show. We don't use Bluetooth headphones because we need the connection to be as fast as possible. we use wired headphones i'm not crazy about the ones that i wear they hurt my head a little bit i think i'm gonna get a pair of bows for this situation but then i also need headphones for working out and i need those to be tight and right and loud as fuck and i think actually the beats kim headphones headphones, I'm going to try those next. Yeah, no. Like AirPods just had to go and like fuck around.

And now they found out because everyone hates everyone. I know. I know I'm going to get feedback. Everyone agrees with me. Like I just know it because fuck Apple. Yeah. Well, that's that's something else. That's something else. That's something else.

Also fuck Apple for just like Apple products. 100%. But like that's what happens when you own the market and like you have a monopoly and like you make the best products. But like the way that they have to change the chargers for all their computers, iPads, phones, like every couple of years,

just so we all have to buy new chargers, making our old chargers obsolete. Like that is so fucked up. And that is actually like financial abuse. Honestly, I really believe that. You really need that money so badly. You're valued at a trillion dollars. You're really so desperate.

Right. As opposed to engendering goodwill. What about goodwill? Why not engendering goodwill? Why not like making me love your company instead of begrudgingly using it? Right. And like rolling my eyes every time I walk past a store.

Yeah. I have like three chargers here. They're all for different things. They all look different. Nothing's ever. No, and my charger's not charging on my iPad because it's got used to your iPad instead of mine. And that girl was fucking right.

And it's all your fault. And it's all your fault. That girl was fucking right. Because I've told mom. And that girl is right. That girl was onto something. It does get used to charging yours instead of mine. And it all of a sudden doesn't work.

Because Apple chargers are literal fraudulent. Like I'm ready for the documentary. I'm ready for the untold story of Apple chargers. Yeah. I hope you're happy. Claude, San Diego chargers greater than Apple chargers. So fucking true. So fucking true. Go chargers. Go chargers. So fucking true. So fucking true.

Go Chargers. Go Chargers. Oh, actually, I got some feedback from our football discussion yesterday, which was riddled with inconsistencies. No, us? Never. Couldn't be. Never.

Sports? Couldn't be me. But the 49ers, which I've obviously put my entire life behind, their quarterback suffered a career, not a career, a season ending injury. He like broke his ankle. You know what? They've still got Jimmy Garoppolo, who's extremely hot. Like Kyle Juszczyk, like 49ers have all the hot players.

I think that sometimes like when you lose your big player, this happens sometimes. Like the person who comes off the bench, one is so grateful for the opportunity and they're going to put their heart and soul into it and like the team sort of rallies around them and it's kind of like an underdog story I don't think it's it's end for the 49ers yeah it gives them a ruach it does a spirit what team does Russell Wilson play on he's also like one of the Seahawks he signed like the most lucrative contract in NFL history. And honestly, I'm just happy for Sierra. Yeah.

Except I saw, you know, it's so funny to me about cancel culture. Not that I'm like advocating for anyone to be canceled. I'm not. I think you're advocating for equality though. For consistency. Yeah. It's so not nuanced. And like they just decide who's going to get like the wrath and who's not.

And so Ciara launched a skincare line or maybe a beauty line. I don't remember. And she's making all this content with all these TikTokers. And she made a TikTok with this girl that I love, Monet. And they did it to the Ciara song. This beat is automatic, hypnotic, hypnotic, funky, fresh, so blank. It's so Arsler. So re-

Yep, got it. Since I started. And not only did they use- Goodies make the boys jump on it. Boys jump on it. No, I can't control my stuff. And yes, my stuff, but yes, I farted. So she made a TikTok with that song

they could have used any 10 seconds of the song they use the one with the r slur and they're mouthing the words and then they just like don't mouth to the r part which I just think is so fucking weird like not only is that not a word we use no one really acknowledges how it's like putting that song and let's get it started in ha you're gonna use that song to promote your line and you're gonna use that part of the song like literally nobody asked you like you could use any other part of the song i just thought that was so weird like where's the energy you know not that i'm in any way advocating i fucking love sierra she's a true national treasure and i'm obsessed with her relationship with russell wilson i just feel like the weird

thing about cancel culture is like it's not an equal playing field. You know, it's mixed messaging. So it's like, okay, we could listen to songs with the R word, but not the S P star Z word. Right.

Right. Right. And like, if somebody had old tweets with the R word, which shout out, I definitely did. Like the energy for me. And like, I'm a Z-lister.

Like Sierra's like an alien. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cancel culture, like the levels make no sense. Like why some people get so much backlash, some people get no backlash. Some people don't even get like an article written about it. You know?

That's so true. Like, and I'm grown enough to acknowledge, like in high school, I used that word all the time. Everyone I know did. It was like, this is so, like everyone did. now we're all adults who know it's like not okay but like where's the energy and i can't stress enough how i'm not i'm not advocating for more cancel culture i'm advocating if we're gonna live in cancel culture which we are like everyone's like i hate cancel culture but they all participate in it like we live in the cancel culture the culture is energy the culture is canceled I want equal energy for equal uh crimes

and I also want like if you're an a-lister you deserve more backlash than a b-lister like I'm sorry it has to be agreed agreed with that so I'm against cancel culture but let's acknowledge the fact that like sorry we actually we do we live in a society where everyone gets canceled for things they said mistakes they've made things they said in the past old tweets that is the world we live in so i want equal justice and like sometimes people are are like you know the pendulum is swinging the other way like oh please people have been saying that for five years over you know it's not and then i'll see someone get canceled for and i'm like this is a joke yeah right'm like, this is the smallest potatoes I've seen yet. Right.

No. And like when I always think about like our old cancellation, how like it was probably like the level of an A-list celebrity when back then we were true fucking irrelevant uglies. Like the way there was so much energy for us when like we were actual nobodies, it did make us into somebodies. And like, that's the small part I'm grateful for. Like, I think this show is what it is because like a lot of people found out about us from our cancellation and they were like oh well this is crazy but the girlies are kind of

funny you know yeah so I just think like that was so crazy and then I see like I feel like I know this is gonna sound so crazy I feel like and maybe, maybe my perception of it is skewed because it happened to me and it felt like so much press, but I do believe that is what happened. I felt like we got more backlash and bad articles written about us than literally like Ansel Elgort. Yeah. Like, is that crazy to say? No, I don't think so. So I just feel like with cancel culture, I've acknowledged that that's the culture we live in. And I'm, I'm going to start, like, I'm going to petition, culture, I've acknowledged that that's the culture we live in. And I'm going to start, like I'm going to petition, like I want more consistency, more equality, more appropriate amounts of backlash to certain situations.

No, and this is what I think is- And I love Ciara. Ciara just is the launching pad for this conversation. Because honestly, people come for Ciara, like I will defend her to the death. Like back then, like you could make a song like that. No, the song slaps. The song slaps.

And, like, literally, it went through record labels. Press, like, nobody thought there was anything wrong with it. Because back in the day, like, nobody thought there was anything wrong with using that word. And, like, if we're going to go after that song for that word, we have to start with Let's Get It Started. Because that one's in the title. Right, the black eyed peas. That one's in the title. That one's in the title.

So that one would be, like, the bigger offense. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, what I find interesting about like the media and like the in equal cancellation and whatnot is like I could do anything in this world and I will never get pressed for like anything good we could do like ever. Right. If I say one thing wrong, everyone's interested in the bad thing I said.

Right, right. So it's like we aren't actually not famous enough to garner press unless we say something mildly unpopular, which we have many times. And all of a sudden, like, we're the biggest stars. Right. But no, like, I could literally genuinely take a bullet for someone and no one would cover the press. No, we could do like, we do really cool things like with our platform, with our podcast. Yeah. Like when news comes to our personal life, like your tour and nothing.

No press. Oh no. Spooky stuff. No, but the second I, you know, maybe offend a pit bull, it's over. It's over. O-V-E-R. I just think it's interesting. And I agree.

Like there's no sense in being anti-cancel culture anymore because like you lost. So now that we live in cancel culture, now that we live in cancel culture, I've accepted it, but I'm going to advocate for more equitable distribution of the assets. That's it. That's it. Okay. That's it. And I'm so glad we had this conversation because it's, cancel culture is extremely nuanced.

Every situation is so different. And I feel like the energy doesn't match for, for some situations versus others. I would actually say it's more nuanced and needs should be more nuanced than it is right now. Yes. Right. Right.

And like, whatever I wrote about in my book, girl with no job.com slash book. Also, I'll see you guys in Long Island this weekend, Saturday. I feel like this part's going to get clipped out and like passed around. So I'm like,

let's like promote everything. Okay. So I am a touring comedian I have a show I only have like eight shows left this one is in Long Island New York in Huntington Saturday seven o'clock it's gonna be super fun there are very few tickets left my last show in New York and then I'm hitting uh Pittsburgh Alabama Nashville all those shows are sold out honestly this one in New York has like 50 tickets left and that's the only one. So if you're missing out on the funniest show of your life, that's on you. That's on you.

So yeah, that was really everything I wanted to talk about before we started. What about you? I think I'm good as well. I finished my drug and alcohol abuse course and I'm feeling really passionate they let you break it up you don't have to do it all in four hours you can log out come back in you're you're still there it actually wound up me taking me like four hours and 45 minutes um not bad I'm feeling really passionate about the issues at hand good so good yeah, you have to think about it. Like, I feel like shit like that,

like, everyone knows drinking and driving is wrong, but then, like, you become a mom, and you realize, like, Harry's going to be driving one day, and you want everyone on the road to be on their best motherfucking behavior. Yeah. They better. They better act right.

I'm literally, like, when Harry gets his first car, like, I will wrap my body around it and be, like, a force field of protection. Like, that's how I would lay my life out on the line at the rate i'm going he's gonna get his car before me before you i'm working towards i'm working towards my goals but they're just like not happening as fast as i want but they're just so hard they're so hard like it's crazy and even in the in the course it was like all these reasons you could get your permit or license suspended it's like if you miss 15 days of school unexcused absences like

and I'm like girl I'm 30 wait by the way first of all I didn't know that that was a thing that's so interesting at least in Florida two two not you taking your courses your course with the 16 year old no and it's like and if you're still 14 you just need a parent to sign off I'm like year olds no and it's like and if you're still 14 you just need a parent to sign off I'm like if I'm still 14 I'm literally turning 40 yeah yeah no I'm turning 30 in November you guys so um in lieu and get in lieu of gifts just follow me on Instagram in lieu of gifts just cancel Sierra no I'm kidding no I'm totally kidding I cannot stress how I'm not advocating for that like she's one of the few celebrities I literally would take a bullet for I love her and I love her husband and I love their wedding.

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into her son's birth as she puts her Tristan Thompson trauma behind her. Khloe is focusing on better days ahead and with a new little one by her side. In last night's season two premiere of The Kardashians, she gave fans the first look from inside the birth of her son, who arrived months after her ex Tristan's paternity scandal first surfaced.

The emotional moment was captured on camera by Kim, who was able to join her in the hospital for her surrogates delivery on July 28th Chloe that makes me like so emo that Kim was there I know well they couldn't have everyone there because of COVID stuff so Kim was there then they FaceTimed True and Chris and then was Tristan Chloe let Tristan come after after Kim was there it's like all of his affairs are just like always timed up with like the third trimester the birth and she's like always having to be the bigger person and it's really fucking annoying for her yeah well so she said in the episode ever since December it's been

this dark cloud looming over me every single day I've been feeling depressed and sad and now that my son is here I get to move on and I get to enjoy it's almost like I get to close that chapter and be done with this trauma and put it behind me she continued as a video montage of her and Kim holding the baby flashed across the screen she said now I finally get to start the healing process now I get to start enjoying my life with two kids in it and figuring this out this is going to be day one and this is going to be the start of something positive and happy and beautiful oh my god I'm like so emo over the fact that like it was her and Kim like because that's literally that line from friends like boyfriends and girlfriends will come and go but this is for life like family is for life family is always there for you and even though like your husband

like is supposed to be your family um he was never her husband so I just I'm like really happy for Chloe that she has that support system because she's that support for all of her sisters. Like she's always that one showing up for everyone, supporting, like putting her needs

on the back end. And I love that she chose Kim. I'm like loving how close they are recently. And I feel like Kardashians on Hulu really highlighted how like it used to be like

Khloe and Kourtney like always leaving Kim out. And now I feel like Khloe and Kim are like in just like similar places in their life. And they're really connecting. And I love how close they are. Yeah, it is so sweet. And I feel like that was our sort of take when everything came out about Chloe and the

surrogate in like in light of Tristan's everything. Like now that she has this baby, that's all she wants. And like Tristan, honestly, he can go fuck off. Like I'm and she'll always be so respectful and the bigger person and like much kinder than I think. Couldn't be me. Much kinder than most people would be. Couldn't be me.

But this is what matters. And this episode, like they focused on the whole journey. Like I think it, you know, probably starts in December and ends in July. You end with the birth. They didn't tell us what the name was but it will start with a t they said okay so our guess of RJ jr is not correct okay but did we guess any t names Thuma or it could be I mean if she was in a good place with Tristan he could be TJ TJ right but honestly she wouldn't

desecrate the beauty of birth by naming someone after Tristan which just sucks because TJ is such a cute name so cute um okay but like I never would have been able to guess true because up until true Thompson true was not a fucking name yeah now it is now it is so it could be tree oh wait it's a boy. Sorry. True and Tree are also too similar. And there's only one famous Tree and her daughters. So that's not going to work.

But let me think. Let's Google T names. They did this on the show last night. Yeah, but it wouldn't come up if it's anything like True. Oh, Theo's the name of the other one. Who? Oh, fuck. Yeah. Wow, the's the name of the other one. Who? Marilee Nichols. Oh, fuck.

Yeah. Wow, the fact that she has a T name too is like hurtful. Yeah. Even though like she has every right to. Yeah. Thomas, Tiago, Tyler, Tucker, Tatum, Taylor. I feel like it's just going to be like a new name. I know.

Like Tile. Yeah. Tyson. Tire. Tobias and I actually like Tyson Tobias Funke Tobias Funke Titus Andromedon Andromedon that's a good name Titus it is but there's really only one Titus and it's Titus Andromedon the greatest character in television history treasure even though I think often about how like Titus Andromedon is literally me. Like I'm obsessed. And Titus Burgess,

who's the character who plays him, like is like low key rude. Like, have you ever seen him on Watch What Happens Live? It's like my favorite thing to talk about. I feel like I talk about it all the time. Yes and yes. He was so rude.

And I also met him one time when I was an intern and he was also so rude. He's not. I asked him if we could like reference in like I was like my job was to like meet the celebrity and like make them take a picture and my I was like can you do pinot noir like a bit from Kimmy Schmidt and he was like no and I felt so stupid and ugly and fat like I was just I was literally 17 I was so nervous I was obsessed with Titus Andromedon and I was like okay like hi I'm Claudia I'm like the social manager like can we just get some photos maybe like a video of you doing Pinot Noir and he was like no I was like okay I'll just die thanks yeah he's not the type that loves the thing that made him famous and that

just couldn't be you and like he was mean to me like a lowly intern and then he was also like fucking rude to Andy on Watch What Happens Live because like Andy didn't know like every single thing about the play he was currently in which it's definitely annoying when you're like doing press and the person like hasn't read your book or like clearly didn't finish it because they ask you a question that's like in the book or in the play but Andy's question was like not that crazy like and it set him off he was so rude that's like one of my favorite clips to watch great uh our next story is a little more Kardashian news because Kanye is sitting down with ABC's Lindsay Davis for an interview the whole thing airs tonight on ABC at 8 30 but a preview was shown on Good Morning America this morning where he's talking about fatherhood, apologizing to Kim, talking about, you know, father's rights. He said that

he had to fight for what are father's rights that he wants to say and how his kids are being raised just as much as Kim, like that he's not just a sperm donor, like he should be able to say like where they go to school. Like he said, I agree with that. But why is he talking about it on ABC news? Talk about it with Kim. Yeah. Well, I think one, Kim gets to do her long form thoughts on the show.

So it's actually better. She doesn't really talk about it. No, she does. Like it takes months until we really hear from her whenever he's having an outburst. But then like she sits down on Kardashian Zulu and talks about it. You know,

I don't know why. I don't really know why he went to gma or whatever but i guess it's i don't know if it's any better or worse than doing it on instagram as he normally does but it definitely seems like it's more thoughtful and he's just talking right but i also i also think about gma being on abc right abc is a part of the hulu family the kardashians had to have gotten a heads up about this or like I feel like they could have, like they could have stopped it. Yeah, but so far from what I've seen,

like there's nothing nefarious, disrespectful or anything. Like he's always crediting Kim as a mom. He just like wants more say. He said he'd had to fight for a voice in his kid's upbringing, which had left him feeling hurt. He said, I'm their dad. It has to be co-parenting. It's not only up to the woman.

Like men have a choice also men's voices matter and then he showed a video of North at Donda Academy um having a great time dancing to music and this and that right it's like he wants to say in his kids education not like should we go to this private school or this private school he wants the kids to go to his own school like it's not a balanced conversation well it is the difference between this private school and this private school and I agree with him I think and it's so nice that like he wants to be so involved but then you think of someone like Tristan and like he doesn't deserve equal say in what Chloe's doing so I think it's a case-by-case situation well actually like he does deserve no I don't think so. He's the dad. I know. But like maybe it's just like as a mama bear now. No.

Really? Like, like I think yes. Okay. If the person is a murderer or like a sex offender, like, okay, great. Yeah. You obviously like don't get to say, but like cheating is terrible. It's terrible. It's terrible. No, but like you're not a mature adult. You don't put your family first. You don't think

about your kids and your, and your lady love before you think about your penis. Like I'm not leading you with the big decisions. And if we disagree on something, like I'm getting my way. Well, I think just in general in hetero relationships, like if we're disagreeing on something, the mom wins. Like that I agree with. Like you can have your opinion, but at the end of the day, if we're not going to come to a compromise, I win.

Like moms win. I think that's fair. And then he lied about knowing that he had a kid coming on the way. He has Khloe going forward with surrogacy when he knows that he has a kid coming. Like that's not a person I would leave big decisions to.

And you don't get as much say as I do. No, not in this moment. But I do think this is the official end for Khloe and Tristan. And like years from now, when she's in a relationship, he's in a relationship, he's doing whatever he wants.

And there are big decisions about like, where's True gonna go to college? Like, I think they both have equal say. Not in this moment, obviously. But when the dust has settled. Okay. You don't, yeah, like you don't not get a say in your child's life forever

because you were a dick. It's not not having like any say. And he obviously will see them and whatnot. But like the mother is like the heavy. The mother is the heavy. I completely agree. But I think other situations are different. You know, when you see moms who lose custody.

Yeah, it's like cancel culture. Everything is nuanced. We have to judge it on a case by case basis. And so I think for Kanye, who wants to be so involved, and I think he is a good dad when he's not, you know, putting all the family drama on Instagram. And he wants like he's very involved and interested. And so it's just a balancing act. But like, yeah I I hate when stuff

like this is done publicly like this is really truly none of our business like we shouldn't know that Kim and Kanye are arguing about which school to send their kids to like it's so personal but honestly this conversation feels less personal than everything that came before yeah and he said like I'm just really curious like I always just associate Kanye doing press with Kanye not doing well. This like this is what he said in. Then this is just a clip. But so far it really seems like he's fine. He said.

Right. This is the mother of my children. And I apologize for any stress that I have caused. Even in my frustration. Because God calls me to be stronger. I need this person to be less stressed. And of the best sound mind as calm as possible. To be able to raise those children at the end of the day.

Like. And he's. He said he has a new respect for Kim and that he's always wanted her to be calm. And like, he's the one who's like making her not. And he's sorry for that. Right, right, right. Oh, that's sweet. That's actually really sweet. Yeah, so it's like, it's-

I need to watch the interview before I really like say anything else. Also speaking of Kanye, like he's been in the news for this Gap and Adidas stuff. Yes. He's no longer doing collabs with either of them and he's posting everyone's LinkedIn to his Instagram

page. I know. Honestly like when Kanye goes like so random deep dive like posting all these businessmen like it does I know I sound fucking crazy. It does make me feel like one day like he might like reference our closed on sunday like partnership with him like why because like he's obviously like he knows about what goes on in his business he doesn't just design like he gets to know like

the fact that like someone from yeezy had reached out to us and gave us an unreleased kind of like that was sanctioned by kanye like, I know I sound crazy. I just feel like one day he'll like post the clip, you know? Do you know what I mean? And just pray that day never comes. Is that delusional? No, I never,

I've literally never thought about it, but it's not that crazy. Because when he's like referencing like the lawyers who did the deal, and this one guy who works at Gap corporate, like he's not just like this type of artist who does partnerships and doesn't like, he knows everything that goes on in his business. Like that's my takeaway when he's posting these random people's fucking LinkedIn's like that's my takeaway.

So the fact that we had like an official communication with, you know, a Yeezy employee who obviously had gotten approval from Kanye to give us his unreleased song to sing on our podcast years ago. It makes me think like in some way like we could come back on his radar another time like when he's on an Instagram spiral and like blowing people up yeah and it's I think it would only be like if we're saying like something completely supportive or completely detracting right and so that leads me to say like I think the kids should be going to Donda Academy and I think they should live in Chicago Donda Academy it looks like great time I'm actually thinking of sending my kids to Donda Academy they have a Jewish program that's really it's on par with Chabad no the Donda Academy stuff like I think it's nice honestly like yeah for sure we'll have to do a tour. 100%. Are you ready for our next story?

Speaking of press, Olivia Wilde is making the rounds and talking about some of it. She was on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Let me guess. Let me guess her answer. I just don't think this would be a conversation I would be having if I weren't a woman. Amongst other things, yes.

She doubled down on her claim that she fired Shia LaBeouf from Don't Worry Darling, now alleging he gave her an ultimatum with Miss Flo. She said, quote, we had to replace Shia. He's a fantastic actor, but it wasn't going to work. When he gave me the ultimatum of, you know, or of or when he gave me the ultimatum of, you know, him or Miss Florence, I chose Florence. I can't say Florence. Did she say Miss Florence? I was just about to say, I can't say Florence without saying Miss Flo,

but I realized in this context, it is important for me to get it right. In response to Shia's claim that Olivia had begged him to stay on the project, she clarified, quote, that was him feeling he was stepping away and me feeling like we were moving on without him. She said early on in the process of making the film as the director, I tried to mediate a situation between people to try and see if they could work together happily. Once it became clear that it was not a tenable working relationship,

I was given an ultimatum. I chose my actress, which I'm very happy I did. Also in this interview, she's going hard for Florence. She said, um, at the time it was, I bummed that we weren't able to make it work. Yes. Did information come about him come to light later that made me confident we made the right choice? Yes. She said about Florence she's sensational in this film and it is about her being brave enough to listen to the brave people who come before her who everyone else has ignored and trust her instincts. She said Florence is as good at dramatic work as she is at action.

I have nothing but respect for Florence's talent. She's fantastic. She's on the set of her movie Dune Part 2 right now. There's nothing cooler than a busy actress. I have nothing against her for any reason. No. So Margot, our sister, had actually seen the movie. I spoke to her about it last night.

She said it's literally Flo. Like Flo's the whole movie. It's like not even Harry. It's Flo. And that she was marvelous, like really incredible. So I think, you know, regardless of their relationship, like press-wise, like she has to praise Flo.

Yeah, and it's like, why should she have anything against Flo other than the fact that Flo kind of blew up her spot? But if she were mad at Flo about that, it would also be kind of like saying, yeah, what she said is true. I think taking the high road in the relation to her beef with Florence

is really like her only course of action, especially because Florence clearly did such a great job in the movie. Now the stuff with Shia, I could actually see how some of it was taken out of context. I think that like she's been a little bit villainized in the sense that I think that

that obviously when she was begging him to come back to the movie, that wasn't the last thing that happened. They must have been trying to make it work. And then after that video, he gave her an ultimatum and she chose Florence. But I think the reason why it's murky is because she acted like she fired him based on allegations because it wasn't a safe work environment when that no she like used a movement and she used the moment to like make herself a hero however I do think like I can see a world in which you're a director working with famous celebrities with big egos and you like let them down in in certain like kind of

manipulative ways to let them think that they walked away even though like behind the scenes I actually can totally see how like she was happy to let Shia think that he was the one making the decision, like giving him that power just to keep like actors egos in check, even though like this was some sort of calculated plan to get rid of him in a peaceful way. I just think they're actually like both not lying. They're just like not telling the whole story like she did fire him if he gave

her an ultimatum but Shia is saying like you also you wanted me to be in it but I couldn't make it work you know right and I think that was actually probably an intentional thing that Olivia did like let him think this is his decision even though like we want to get rid of him yeah I just think that there's more stuff that happened after that video but the video vindicates Shia because it's like no she wanted me to be in it at still at a certain point that video was really bad yeah like but I think it might be a little frustrating for because there's there was more that happened afterwards nuance um and now she's like doing the press tour she was on kelly where her conversation was a bit lighter where she pretty much was like because kelly was like i'm

not going to ask you about it because i think kelly you know knows what it's like to be misunderstood and in the press and everything and olivia just sort of skirts around it and saying you know there's people who are living without water and like that's more important oh my god i mean there are people who are living without water and we all need to like really be helpful and talk about that. But that's neither here nor there. Yeah, no, like make a movie about it.

Like you have a platform. Use your platform. But this is the movie that you made. So we're talking about this movie. Right. And you're actually doing press for this particular movie. That's why we are talking about it

and not the water crisis. But if the movie was about's why we are talking about it and not the water crisis. But if the movie was about the water crisis, we'd be talking about the water crisis. Of course we would, and maybe you should have thought of that before you made a movie, not about the water crisis. It's just, oh, and of course she said to Stephen Colbert, quote, I think what's funny is, like, I don't feel like my male director colleagues are answering questions about their cast.

I hate that shit because first of all, no, she's right, we're not. Because I've never seen a video of a male director that made them look like a big fucking liar. If there was, just so you know, if there was a video of James Cameron going around like lying to Kate Winslet about Leonardo DiCaprio, you bet your ass we'd be talking about it

every single day on the show. But there's not. So you're a woman, yes, but you're also a woman who found herself in a situation that i have not seen from another male director and i feel like there's actually a lot of like a decent amount of drama with male directors like that that guy james i mean that james gunner or whatever like yeah guardians of the galaxy guardians of the galaxy which i don't know enough about the situation but i remember like everyone's talking about the fact like all these actors penned a note on his behalf even though I think he like might be a sex offender or something

like there was weird shit so I feel like there's actually a decent amount of drama with directors and especially and by the way it's a director getting involved with um anyone on the film that like Kristen Stewart Snow White and the huntsman we were talking about that but also most directors aren't famous she is a actress celebrity first a director second maybe that won't be the case in a few years directors aren't going on stephen colbert most directors are fucking irrelevant i wouldn't know them on the street if they took a dump on my chest like yeah that's a really good i wouldn't that them on the street if they took a dump on my chest. Yeah, that's a really good point. I wouldn't. That's actually probably. She's a celebrity first

and that's why we're talking about it. Not because she's a woman. I hate that shit. Yeah, agreed. You're famous. Like literally Jason Sudeikis, Harry Styles. Like there's a lot going on. No, and she's a front facing person.

Like she's B to C. Right. Most directors are B to B. Most directors are B to B. She's B to C. Therefore, it's in the press. We are talking about it. Okay.

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Let me be a Numa. Okay. Our next story is actually, um, some canceled culture news. Let me finish reading it before you comment, because there's been an update. Tiffany Haddish claims she lost all of her jobs

amid the child molestation lawsuit. Tiffany Haddish claims she, quote, lost everything as a result of the now dismissed allegations of child molestation and grooming made against her and fellow comic Ari Spears. She told TMZ, all my gigs gone, everything gone. I don't have no job, bro. According to IMDB, she has two products in post-production,

but none that she's currently filming are listed as in pre-production. She also has no upcoming tour dates for her comedy tour per Ticketmaster. Haddish and Spears were accused of grooming and molesting a brother and sister when they were 14 and 7 years old, respectfully, in a lawsuit filed earlier this month. The alleged victims claim that she coerced them into participating in explicit comedy skits. The siblings who made the accusations dismissed the lawsuit this week. They said, quote, my family and I have known Tiffany Haddish for many years and we now know

that she would never harm me or my brother or help anyone else do anything that could harm us, she told TMZ onuesday on behalf of herself and her brother we wish tiffany the best and are glad that we can put this all behind us what yeah but wait but those videos were made like yeah i don't i really am so confused when i read this story like i felt it sounds like seriously someone's holding a gun to their head like say that I know and I don't want to like accuse anyone of anything but like I'm so confused because I felt so sick sick reading the story like genuinely horrified for the case to be dismissed and for the woman to say like she would never harm us never mind maybe they like chatted offline and came to an understanding.

Right, because at the end of the day, this is hearsay, obviously. Like you're supposed to, you know, believe the victim. And that can lead people to be doubtful. Like there's no like full proof. But those videos, like you can watch it. It's disgusting.

And I wouldn't, I wouldn't. And I know people have but like there is video evidence of extremely inappropriate content being yeah so maybe it all happened but they're just moving forward in a different way I'm so confused I honestly that's fucking weird yeah because part of me is like, well, if they're, you know, saying it didn't happen and the case is dismissed, then like, that's not right that Tiffany Haddish is, you know. But then I think about how those videos still were made by Tiffany Haddish. But these statements, they don't say that it never happened.

It's just like, she's just singing a different tune now. And I just feel like maybe they've spoken and figured something out. She said, my family and I have known Tiffany, excuse me, ads, Life Station. She said that? No. The ads just are coming in front of my quote. Okay. My family and I have known Tiffany Haddish for many years,

and we now know that she would never harm me or my brother or help anyone else do anything that could harm us. We wish Tiffany the best and are glad that we can put this all behind us. Well, the interesting thing is that they're saying Tiffany, not Ari Spears. Yeah, Ari Spears, for his part, slammed the claims and called them extortion.

Well, the thing about being a comedian is that your career is what you make it in the sense that like, you know, Louis C.K. was widely canceled and he's still one of the most popular comedians. He doesn't do anything mainstream. He doesn't go on the late night shows. He doesn't have a special on Netflix. He tours all around the country. He does huge venues. He sells his specials directly to his listeners. As a comedian, like you can have a very prosperous career. That's why, you you can have a very prosperous career. That's why, you know,

people who do standup and become really, really famous, they never stop doing standup because the day that all those movies and everything stops, you can always go back to making a hundred grand a night selling out a stadium. Well, a stadium, you probably make more than that, right? No, no, sorry.

You make a hundred grand a night, like selling out like a big ass theater, like us, like six to 10,000 person, which like the Dolby, Radio City, Madison Square Garden, like that's the type of venue. So that's, what's interesting about being a comedian is like, as a comedian, you can true. And that's why I think it's kind of a safe career for people to say whatever they want. Because at the end of the day, like even when Chappelle was like so on the outs after Chappelle's show and was considered like this radioactive he

was still one of the most successful touring comedians because people don't care oh you're not a Comedy Central anymore I can buy a ticket to your show like you don't need the industry behind you or to have to necessarily even approve you because you sell tickets directly to your fans you sell your comedy specials directly to your fans. Patreon is a new wave of that. Like all these comedians who aren't really Hollywood are still some of the most like successful comedians in terms of touring sell out just as big of a venue as like a Jerry Seinfeld.

Yeah. No. And the money is there too. Like Amy Schumer literally sold out Madison Square Garden Theater and like so did I you know that's actually a really good comparison something like so many of the um comedians like comedians who come from podcasting digital world are doing just are doing the same venues as an Amy Schumer as well not there's there's but then there's like another level of like chapelle sebastian

maniscalco those are the only i'm not talking about i'm really talking about like podcasting comedians who are like they're not digitally native but have like used the internet to who are big on patreon themselves a career you've read tom segura's book right like he no it's on my list he couldn't get a special at first like filmed it it himself, sold it. I think it was back when like he printed DVDs, I think. I'm crying. So yeah, there is big money in that. But it's funny because I feel like there are some comedians, not the Chappelle's and Sebastian, those are like, and Kevin Hart.

Those are like, they have the industry and they have the audience. Yeah. There are so many comedians that just have the industry. I know. I don't I don't know who you're thinking of but like I'm thinking of literally one person in particular and it's like I don't think this person has any actual fans but it's like Netflix special put her on late night it's like who how did who is this person thinking about just I'll tell you later

I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna like dog fellow female comedians I just find it interesting and so and that's how I kind of feel about a lot of SNL cast members not all of them some of them are genuinely funny and have audiences the standout ones but like a lot of them are just like the thing is about SNL is like you actually don't need to have like a huge fan base to do your job well no no but you just need to be funny do good impressions be a good writer like yeah but it's not gonna make you a rock star comedian if you don't have like that galvanized audience and you're not like something special but I also just feel like those days are like kind of over where like you're becoming like a nationwide the biggest comedian

after doing SNL like I feel like Pete Davidson was super rare because that hasn't happened like since Kenan yeah but I wouldn't even say he's like the biggest comedian. I don't know. No, no, no, no. But he's famous. Like honestly, Michael Che and Colin Jost, like they do stand up together. They go on tour. They sell huge venues. That just doesn't happen anymore.

They've been on the show for 10 years. So the thing is like when you get canceled as a comedian, it's not the same as being canceled as an actor. You're canceled as an actor. You're fucked. Because in order to be a successful actor actor you need the industry to approve you you need to be in the green you can't just like go to a theater and do a one-man show right so with the that's why like so many people just like you would think like why does Jerry

Seinfeld still do stand-up it's because like it's just built into like the DNA of a comedian like never give that up because like you could lose everything and you just have to go back. That's how Chappelle built it all. He got so canceled. Chappelle's show was canceled. He was so irrelevant. Literally excommunicated by Hollywood. So he just kept touring, touring, touring.

And then he became so big at touring they couldn't ignore him anymore. That's really what's happening with Louis C.K. And that's the beauty of being a comedian. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Like to half the world he's like dead. And that's the beauty of being a comedian. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Like to half the world. Exactly.

He's like dead. And the other half. Right. He's like the best comedian alive. Right. And he's making money hand over fist. People just love him. So I am confused as hell about this Tiffany Haddish situation.

But what I mean to. But why I brought that up is that she's going to be fine. There's no shows on Ticketmaster that's not because Ticketmaster won't have her go on tour yeah uh yeah Ticketmaster will sell your tickets but do you think at this point I mean people love her like in movies and stuff but can she sell tickets yeah we'll see yeah I think she can okay are you ready for our fifth and final story someone else is selling something Brad Pitt debuted his new skincare line he credits his ex Gwyneth Paltrow

for getting him to wash his face okay every time Gwyneth Paltrow and Brad Pitt even remotely reference each other I fall so head over heels into shipdom even though there are a few couples I love on this planet more than Gwyneth Paltrow and Brad Falchuk I think they have like a really strong marriage and I'm really happy for them but when she referenced like that whole Harvey Weinstein with him like they always just like maybe like once every few years will reference their relationship in such a positive light it's like it makes me want to cry it makes me want to cry that I wasn't present for it I was alive but I was six right right i was four brad pitt has entered the skincare chat the actor and director announced his new collection called

le domain skincare in an interview with british vogue and opened up about his own skincare routine and which one of his famous exes influenced his brand and his beauty routine he said i love what gwyneth's done with goop she is still a really dear friend and she has built this empire she has always had that in her as a curator and it's been a it's been a lovely creative outlet for her in fact come to think about it she was probably the first one to get me to wash even wash my face twice a day maybe oh brad wanted to make it clear though that despite this being his brand with she created with the help of the parent family of vintners oh i feel like moira rose he is not the face of the parent family of vintners oh i feel like moira rose he is not the face of the brand he is however the driving force behind the the product's creation

which use grape-based antioxidants from chateau i'm sorry great what are you saying it's the skincare uses grape-based antioxidants from his thank you vineyard chateau miraval which has allowed him oh my god is that contentious that's like a it's a huge asset in his divorce what i'm trying to say is that he was using these grapes on his face at his vineyard and now he's bottling it and selling it and he's just like one person in the chain and i don't know why you wouldn't be the face of a skincare brand when your face is brad pitt when you're brad pitt um but he really believes in this stuff he said he's gotten sent like so much stuff over the years it's all crap and that if this didn't work he wouldn't bother with it but it's the real deal okay I'm like

really beyond like shook that like we're having this conversation like Brad Pitt releasing a skincare line is so beneath him like it's giving like it's it's so weird it is weird I'm not here for it I'm sorry do I believe the grapes are great for your skin yes do I believe it's better than anything that's currently on the market no I don't know why he's doing this it's so bizarre and it makes me think he's hard up for cash I think maybe he said in an interview a few months ago that like he's in I don't want to say I don't know if I'm misquoting but kind of like the final chapter of his life and he's an actor and a director but like those sorts of things like you need to work to get paid and maybe he's just at a point in his life where he's like I want the checks to come in like I want to build a business and not have to work for every paycheck directly

a hundred percent and if that was the case I can't imagine that he would land on skincare. I feel like he would invest in like a couple like liquor businesses, maybe like tech. I feel like when you're that famous, you get opportunities to invest early in companies that are no doubt going to make you money. Like that's how the rich get richer. Like they get those opportunities that nobody else gets. I feel like he probably could get a hundred businesses wanting his money that are 75% gonna make it you know I think like he sat down with his team and they were like well Brad why would he start like from inception that's more

work well Brad what are you known for and he says that's more work than just writing a check look he has to come up with the name the branding the formulas like write a check to Spritz Society and we'll do the work for you. You know what I mean? But I think he's not someone who doesn't want to work. I think he just wants to. But you just said he wants the checks to come to him. I think he wants to work smarter, not harder. And I don't think skincare is going to be that.

No, it's surprising. It makes me think that this grape stuff must be the fountain of youth. Right. Maybe Angelina was using it too. Maybe we need to need because like that could be the only reason why he's doing this because we absolutely have to have this product on the market right but it's giving like 4 a.m infomercial yeah anyways do with that information what you will I feel like you needed to know it and we all need to chew on it a hundred percent but what I really need to do is talk about the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills because

the blow-up of all blow-ups we finally kind of sort of got it not at all we got absolutely nothing we got the saddest party I've ever seen in Beverly Hills oh it was giving basement hangout in the eighth grade yes and that's what every single party on all Real Housewives have turned into I think since COVID but they obviously don't care to step it up. It's only the women getting together in like a house or a sad venue, getting dressed to the nines in a theme and being pathetic. So let's dive into the TV recap, which is brought to you by BetterHelp. It can be tough to train your brain to stay in problem solving mode when you're being

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sprinter but all the women said Kathy was being like nuts Kathy was probably drunk and fucking mad at her sister and she was acting weird with the conga line and wanting to leave and screaming at her sister. I believe all of that. Only Kathy, only people who want to see Kathy taken down are saying she was acting so wild. Crystal,

who is a friend of Kathy said she didn't see anything. If Kathy's making this whole scene at the cafe, but not with Jackie, not everyone went. Did Crystal go to that club? So that Crystal said she didn't see anything Sutton said Kathy didn't want like wanted to do a conga line nobody wanted to do it and then Kathy said to Sutton come home with me if you don't come home with me you're not my friend okay like not a like fine neutral messy drug behavior like not anything that's like

World War III in Beverly Hills the only people who are saying that Kathy was so insidious, never seen anything like it before is Rinna, Diana, Erica, Kyle. Kyle is going off of what Rinna told her. Yeah, so here's the thing with Kyle. I now kind of like getting the whole picture so when Lisa Rinna had the absolute gall to say that Kyle is more successful and rich and richer than and more

famous than Kathy Hilton like I had to just laugh like that was funny um I don't think Kathy thinks of herself in competition with Kyle but I think Kyle thinks of herself in competition with Kyle, but I think Kyle thinks of herself in competition with Kathy. Um, you can't even compare the two. Um, I do think that they haven't accurately really told us what their, Kathy, before this, Kathy and Kyle had not been on good terms for years. And they never really told us what that was about. It's not really about American woman. It all stems from the agency.

Kathy's husband is like a maven of real estate in LA. Kyle and Mauricio get married. Mauricio starts to work for Rick. They really kind of gave Kyle and Mauricio a life, like a something. And then years later, he works his way up the company and he goes out and makes his own company, the agency. I think he takes a lot of business from Rick's company. I think it hurt Rick's company. And that's something to get into a real argument with your sister about. Taking away someone's livelihood, hurting their livelihood when you went out on a limb for Kyle's husband. That, I think, is what this all stems from, honestly.

That's why they weren't friends for many years. They've never really spoken about it. I was surprised they even alluded to it last night Lisa um and Kathy has every right I'm sure Kathy's husband fucking hates Kyle and her husband I'm sure he does yeah so that's what it's really all about and they can make us seem it's about like American woman and mom it's not I think those things don't help and when you're on the outs with a sister it's like if we're on the outs about like a real whatever business just like the agency't help. And when you're on the outs with a sister, it's like if we're on the outs about like a real whatever business, just like the agency thing that happened.

And then you're going to go make a show about our life. And I don't agree with the way that you're depicting things like that is problematic. And Lisa being like, she's jealous of American woman, like American woman's not on the air. Why would anyone? No.

And I think like Lisa's really forgetting that Kathy Hilton is one of the richest women in Hollywood her daughters are two of the most famous iconic socialites um of all time and they're still at the top of their game and the most relevant I think she's forgetting like the Hilton Enterprise while it doesn't still you know own the Hilton hotels is one of the biggest names in real estate like Lisa Rinna really needs to get a grip that was like a crazy delusional thing to say yeah and just made it seem like so obvious like what they're trying to do I think Kathy probably has a temper I think you know we everyone has she's a rich old woman has a side of them that most people don't see is ugly you know you go on a girl's trip and

you're drunk and people are disrespecting you day in and day out and you reach and one of them is your sister breaking point 1000 percent um but I don't without proof or quotes or anything like nothing that Lisa Rinna is telling me makes it seem like anything other than like she had a really bad night and that's that yeah and it's very possible that Kathy said horrible things that I wouldn't agree with but until I have any sort of proof Lisa Rinna is just not known for being an accurate storyteller she's known for being a drama queen she's known for being extremely biased literally was being such a soap opera actress whoever said in the last episode I think was Garcelle like you would need an exorcism to remove the soap actress from Lisa Rinna like that when she was leaving crystals last night I just I just feel like I need to go home like the drama still wouldn't say what Kathy said like crystal had no idea what the fuck she was talking about like it was giving crystal being

like she said something so dark but I can't say it yes and everyone was coming at crystal being like you can't say something like that and not give us details Lisa you can't say something like that and not give us details even the text messages to Erica were extremely vague we never what did she say okay she wants to take down NBC and take down Bravo okay like so she's angry about she hates her sister she's mad at the show that's sister ting yeah no that's like she's having a really bad night but nothing in there is like she's this evil plotting no and everything that she's met at kyle for like seems innocuous but when you put it all together and like you you know how a sister should be there for you like if kathy's having a bad night and she's wasted and something's like

wrong and she's like kyle i need you to take me home and she says no if you ever came up to me at a club with a group of friends you're like claudia i'm not okay like you need to come home with me now i'd be like all right i'll call the uber like that's what friends do and that's what sisters fucking do I mean I would hope you would never all day of being disrespected and like I know the conga line and Kathy's older Kathy's older you respect your older sister like sounds stupid but it was just like one more thing where it's like they're knocking Kathy everyone is just dismissive dismissive of her the Casa del Sol dismissive everything is like Kathy's's crazy kathy's cuckoo they're making her out like she's a mental patient

justice for kathy until i see anything that even remotely disproves otherwise i'm so not convinced it would take a lot to convince me because i i don't trust i don't believe a word that comes out of lisa so that's a problem right so i so I'm definitely biased. I can own that. And then also Erica's biased. And I fucking love Kathy. Erica's very ready for it to be someone else's turn as she's plainly stating. She's basically saying like,

all right, my worst moments, but you know what? Your worst moments were caught on cameras and I don't think Kathy would have said any of that if the sprinter had been wrapped up in cameras. They were officially cut for the day. And I think Diana is interested in being the number one girl in this group.

And I think Kathy's really the only one giving her a run for her money. In terms of prestige. Yes, and money. The more they try to take Kathy down, the more tacky and gross they all look and poor. And the more elevated and sickening Kathy becomes. The way I would lay my life out on the line for Kathy is not normal considering I actually I have met her twice um and both times

I was really impressed with what I saw also next week Lisa Rinna like goes to Kathy's house and it's like why do you have a black heart like black heart you're gonna need to show up with with more also Lisa Rinna can I tell you something about Lisa Rinna. If Lisa Rinna finds herself in a situation where someone's exposing themselves and there's not a camera, why isn't Lisa Rinna pressing record? Right. Just on her phone. And if you ever find yourself between two sisters, just know you are in the wrong.

This is none of your fucking business. Get out. Yeah. And I love how Kathy in her confessionals was like, yeah, no, I was being like drunk and crazy. I didn't think that. And you know, Lisa was so great. She was so sweet to me and understanding.

It was a great conversation. Like I love her serenity and calm when Lisa's like, I think I have to go home. Yeah. I loved it. It's like making Lisa look like such a yeah I just think that if Lisa Rinna heard what she heard like she would have recorded it because that's Lisa Rinna she's texting Erica she can text on her phone but she didn't hit record so true and I love Kathy like yeah I'll get my own plane yeah I'm Kathy Hilton for fuck's sake

fuck's sake and it's about time everyone starts fucking acting like and stop treating her like you know crazy old grandma like the way I'm so team Kathy like and I don't want anything bad to come out because I'm obsessed yeah that would be hard but it's at this point they actually are doing themselves a disservice because now what needs to come out needs to be so bad unforgivable inexcusable as opposed to if we got like some quotes and I was like okay Kathy apologize move on she threw a cup she threw her glasses I'm gonna take the bajor's down yeah so I need more until I was a big burger and the party made me sad. And it kind of makes me want to rewatch the Kim and Kyle of it all.

Because back then, like Kim was so painted as the villain because she was the one like going through stuff. So it's like, how can Kim be wrong? I mean, how can Kyle be wrong when Kim is the one, you know,

who's drunk. And now I'm just like, I feel like I might have been seeing like the Richards family dynamic so wrong I hadn't when all I never cared honestly like I I wasn't I really didn't like Kim as a housewife but I was never like a Kyle Stan and I feel like it wasn't until like everyone took down Lisa Vanderpump and like Kyle like engendered herself into like this next generation with like Dorit and Erica. Then I was like, oh, my Kyle's like a great housewife and a great gal. Right. It's so true.

You always like really loved Kyle. I just like I never really cared about that drama back in the day. It wasn't my beat. No, I didn't care either. It just like made me sad. Like sisters. Like fighting like that is terrible on TV. It's terrible.

And I feel like Kathy's very much like our, like our line of thinking, like old school, like very Caroline Manzo, like you don't betray the family. Even if there's something wrong, you handle it in private. Whereas Kyle's like,

well, I'm going to be a good housewife and I'm going to put it all out there. Like we share. Like no. No. Some things can be kept private. And I think family discourse is for nobody's ears, but, but the family.

And but that's just me. So hopefully someone will start bringing us some information soon. Yeah, I need proof. I need proof. And how Kyle, I think this is how it plays out. How Kyle's going to let Erica and Lisa, like, try and destroy her sister, that is unforgivable. Those are her best friends.

If she said stop, they would stop. No, like, Lisa Rino wants to take down Kathy Hilton. And Kyle's going to let her do it. Yeah. But I'm not. And Erica's going to help her. I'm not. I'm not. We need to show out in full support

for Kathy I actually didn't even look last night to see what people were saying are you people I believe are from firmly team Kathy it's Lisa Rinna does not make a good hero she is not the hero of this story she has never been the hero of this story people do not believe her even the ones that like her know she's crazy pot stirring drama yeah it's the soap actress uh the yeah an exorcism oh I did want to say how much I really appreciated Garcelle owning the fact that like perhaps she should have just given a heads up she wasn't sorry about what she said but she could have given her friends a friend a heads up when they were spending the weekend together she was like you know what I should I also like the way Erica handled it I think like last season she would have been like I'm coming for you

and your children she didn't even get into the nitty-gritty about what she said I would have liked to heads up I thought we were bonding it hurt my feelings and Garcelle was like yeah you're right yeah and I think Erica understands like this is just her job and like not to take it personally like I'm sure Garcelle wanted to talk about this like she wanted a fucking hole in the head like it's not comfortable and I think she was really mature about it and I love that like she just took umbrage with the not getting a heads up which I totally yeah like we're talking about in Aspen that was the time you didn't do it you could have done that and I love I love the whole exchange I was just like mature dialogue queens mature queens so that is the recap that is our show

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