The Toast - S5 Ep16: Popping Off With Purpose with Brian Kelly: Wednesday, January 26th, 2022

Episode Date: January 26, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Wednesday. Happy hump day. And Claudia, you are in studio. I miss the toasty vibes. How's it going over there? It's good. Yes, I came into studio today because today's episode, if you're listening as a podcast, right at the end, we're doing a really hard-hitting interview with Brian Kelly, who's been in the news a lot. I don't know if you guys know, Brian and his company are suing American Airlines. American Airlines is suing them. It's like all this drama. And I kind of just wanted to break it down because it's important for us as consumers to know. Yeah. And then we also had to like do housewives chat and he did top 10, one of the best housewives impressions I've ever seen in my life of Noella. Jackie, I was, I couldn't breathe. Like I actually couldn't breathe. Oh my God. I'm sure it's so good. Wow. I can't wait to listen to that. I'm so interested by this American Airlines suit.

So I'm excited to watch your interview. Yeah. Because I think it's going to set an interesting precedent, like whichever way it goes, because these tools, like the Point Sky app, which is like so fabulous and you should have all of your information in one place. Like they shouldn't be allowed to take that away. No, totally. And he's just out here fighting for the consumer.

And so I just wanted him to have a platform. He's been doing a lot of press, but I want him to like sit down and explain because it's like kind of confusing. Yeah. And I just think we should be informed consumers. And he's just like so funny and great on the podcast. So I figured while I'm in studio, I might as well move things around. And Jackie, we moved our couches so I could sit in front of our neon sign. Underneath our couch, our carpet is bright white. I guess I didn't realize how disgusting this carpet was until we moved the couches. Wow. I mean, I think we did know.

We just didn't want to know. I'm glad there's a piece of it, though, that is still intact. And I just don't know who these airlines think they are these days. I know. Because it's like, you guys need to figure your shit out. And the last thing you should be worried about is Brian Kelly making our lives easier. Totally. And you should be interested in making our lives easier as well.

And not starting stuff with the consumers. So we could be loyal to you. Right. Because you make it really hard these days. So it was a very eye-opening interview. It was really fun. It's at the end of the episode. If you're on YouTube, we record it in studio, so it'll be a separate

video. So it was just like fun to like sit down and chat. And now that we literally rearranged furniture so I can do this show from here whenever I want. And I think it looks premium. It looks so premium. I am working out my premiumness. You guys, you're not going to believe this, but my Costco order was canceled. I can't with you. I really can't. But I have. I found another vendor. I don't want to jinx it. So it should be here by our next show, which is Monday, because you are hitting the road

tomorrow for the NLOG tour. So Thursday and Friday, there is no regular morning toast, but there will be Patreon podcast episodes up. We recorded one yesterday. Dear Toasters for the Patreon. And you guys, you really you've got you don't want, you really, you've got some questions and quandaries and we're here to help. We did our best. We really did our best. Sometimes I just feel so unqualified to be giving people advice, especially when they write in and they're like actually going through real like life changes

and problems. I'm like, who the hell am I? No, I feel qualified to give the advice but it's just it's so hard to get the full picture from you know just a paragraph so we're working with limited information and we're doing the best that we can but I think that I think we give really good advice I think we give very like Hamish wise you know not nothing radical, just like good. We're not radical, girlies. No, just some good sound advice. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So you'll check that out tomorrow on patreon.com slash morning toast. But in the meantime, while we still have you, we have a great show.

So jam-packed. Yes. Vanderpump Rules recap, Fast Five, of course, interview with Brian Kelly. I actually really enjoyed the Vanderpump Rules reunion last night. Same. Even though I had a lot of problems with some of the logistics, like not really understanding why people were recording from home. And then once they were home, they weren't even in the first 30 minutes of the episode. Why? Why? Because I think it would have been annoying to have them like chiming in from home. They didn't want it to be a remote reunion again.

And I think from what I I understood like they were sick and I think they probably didn't know what it was or COVID test pending or maybe they just had COVID or were exposed in like a very real way and it just you know that goes against COVID protocol so they had to do it from home but yeah no not having Lala like just on site definitely was a loss for me I couldn't agree more such a loss but the worse the season the better the reunion the ergo it's been a nice reunion so far I agree I'm excited to talk about it in the tv recap and just generally just like chill with you Jax like love to chill are you okay I love to chill what's wrong I'm just so excited to chill who are you chill are you gonna be okay

no I'm running on overdrive. This has been the busiest week ever. Yesterday was the longest day of my life, and I capped it off with my Barnes & Noble book club, which was so fun. Like, just love talking about myself. Taylor Strecker. Taylor Strecker, one year later, finally read my book,

and she literally finished it, like, a minute before the Barnes & Noble thing started, and so she had so many questions. I actually had forgotten. Like, she played an integral role. I didn't name name her in the book but she was the person in my book who told me at my first shows back at Caroline's that like people were planning to protest me doing comedy and she was like I can't believe that was me and she had such a pitch she was like should I have not told you that I'm like no no I didn't this book was not meant to like bring up you know

skeletons it's all good oh my god that's so I didn't realize that was her that seems like such a long time ago I know and I'm so glad and jealous of her that she had the experience of reading the book for the first time most recently she said she's so funny she's such a grandma she was like I listened to the book on tape is that okay I'm like the book on tape oh the audible oh yeah the audiobook um and i'm like yeah girl that's fine i worked super hard on the audiobook check it out a lot of the redheads in the redheads facebook group ask the question constantly does it count if that you write a book if it's an audiobook one thousand percent yes hundred percent hundred percent don't let them forget like you guys you need to give yourself some credit you got to the moral of the story. You read the book.

A hundred. It totally counts, like, in my mind. And anyone who says otherwise is just like a snob. Yeah, for real. Next they'll be saying reading on Kindle doesn't count. Oh, please. Nuts. I actually finished my book last night.

Maybe you should talk to someone by Lori Gottlieb. And it was no Good Morning Monster. Did you see that Lauren Bostic and Dear Media are turning Good Morning Monster into like a scripted podcast yes I did it's gonna that's gonna be so good with option for tv which is gonna be so good you know what's so cool about Lauren and Michael like they told us they were like trying to do that and they actually did it yeah no they people say stuff all the time they get stuff done yeah um so yes it was a busy day and we're going into an even busier weekend with my shows I'm really excited so that's why I was just acting all weird I'm like I might be short-circuiting okay let us know keep us posted on your circuits and

we'll do we're here for you and this is a safe space where you can act as erratic as you want really yeah I just want to just make sure check in with you that like you are okay currently yes I saw you drinking a soda and it's like a little maybe that's the reason well we have that's possible but we haven't been in the studio in literally two months because of COVID so there aren't many drinks it was either this or a spritz and so I thought this was more responsible use code toast at spritzsociety.com oh my god she's imagine if you start drinking I guess that's when you'll know like if you ever that's the line like if you're ever drinking on this show but I don't know as we keep doing it later and later the line starts to blur agreed oh also for I keep forgetting to mention this and Ben is going to

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where people just like discuss tips and tricks for doing Wordle. And something really smart that people do is they, do you have like a go-to word that you always guess first? I have like one or two, yeah. So I guess like statistically a really helpful word to use is adieu, because it uses four to five vowels. So you know immediately which vowels are in it and which are not that's a really good tip and trick what is your go-to word it's either

great or price i don't know why mine is ghost and then because it has some quirky letters in it and st are very popular and if there's nothing in there that's part of it then I use the word break a-k-e or e-a-k e-a-k but it would be the same thing because it doesn't have any of the same letters as ghost got it oh that's so maybe a do would be accomplishing more to be honest like I just really like the chaotic way that I start so I I'm not going to adapt this ado technology but some people are saying it's like statistically a helpful way to start. I'm sure it is, but now it also feels a little like cheating, like knowing that. Agreed. Agreed. I'm just going back to my ghost spooky vibes.

Will she get the wordle of the day? We'll never know. You didn't get yesterday's wordle. No, that was the first time i didn't get it i got it on the third try no wait sorry yesterday sugar yeah i got it on the third try the day before yesterday uh grassy knoll got it i got grassy knoll on the fourth try i think no you said fifth it's fine on the fifth try okay i send it to you because i was so proud so i have nothing to hide i'm not hiding anything i'm just not i never said you were I never said you were okay now without further ado even though it's the ado that's spelled differently than the word will do I believe I believe as well it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast

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So Bravo posted a statement yesterday saying Bravo has ceased filming with Jenny Nguyen and she will no longer be a cast member on the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We recognize we fail to take appropriate action once her offensive social media posts were brought to our attention. Moving forward, we will work to improve our processes to ensure we make better informed and more thoughtful casting decisions then jenny posted last night to her instagram and twitter that she's going to be speaking out today speaking her truth and answering questions that has not happened yet but tbd on what she will say and just content warning at the end of the episode me and Brian do talk about this again so I want to hear your take but we did discuss it yes so we saw this this week and we also I had seen that she was filming with the ladies so I figured that this was going to be addressed on this next season

they had just filmed the reunion otherwise it would have come up at the reunion and I I don't know why I was really surprised that Bravo dropped the axe here on her I feel like it's been a while since we've had one of these like cancellation situations and in all that time like everyone you know would say they're against cancel culture but like this seems like textbook cancel culture to me and I just don't know how productive it is to just like fire her goodbye as opposed to like if she did film with the women they all have a lot to say about this that's true and they could have conversations and actually like leave room for like growth understanding healing but like stuff like this just like

cements a divide and a misunderstanding between people and leaves like no opportunity for learning so I just I don't I don't think it I don't think it's that productive to do it this way and if they really wanted I think it could be so much more powerful to just to talk about these things instead especially since the women have really strong opinions about it no I agree in theory but like I just fucking hate Jenny so like you know what goodbye like she added nothing of value to the show and honestly I don't think she does a really good job of getting her point across when it's about you know dumb housewives drama I don't think she does a really good job of getting her point across when it's about, you know, dumb housewives drama.

I don't know how good of a job she could have done talking about the political climate and racial issues. No, I agree with that. And also, you know, she hasn't been my favorite housewife either. So it's not like this huge loss. And I think a lot of people feel that way. They're like, OK, bye, Jenny. Like, we didn't care that much anyway.

But it just also made me think about, like, the way that Bravo handles these things in general and all the different paths that they take in and what I think in hindsight has been like the best course of action because like this reminds me of a lot of different things that have happened first of all like Leanne being fired from Real Housewives of Dallas but see Leanne's situation reminds me most of Mary Mary's. Because they both said egregious things on camera. Which in my opinion, not that anything is worse or better, because what Jenny posted about killing protesters, that's horrible. But doesn't it seem like it would be a worse offense if we're categorizing these things, which I guess we are.

Doesn't it seem like a worse offense to say something derogatory and racist on the show yeah no and that's why I was actually really supportive even though I'm super against cancel culture like I actually thought Leanne going like was the right move yeah at the time but then it's like okay so let's also talk about what happened with Mary this season and how she offended Jenny and and everyone Mexican community right oh right and everyone would have expected that she would be fired after the reunion for those comments because it's really like the same thing as what happened to

Leigh-Anne, but that we never got there because she didn't show up to the reunion. Then we also have like Kristen and Stassi on Vanderpump Rules who were fired. But then I think, and then we also have like Brandi on Real Housewives of Dallas. Yes, I forgot you know she's really grappling with the mistake that she made and she has a lot of conversations with Tiffany Moon about the uh hurt that she caused and I felt

like that was productive you know that's actually a really good point and even though this past season of Real Housewives of New York City was so painful to watch, I felt like there were moments when they were having real conversations about things, even though at the time it was just like no one wants to. It was like messy and there was so much other like not enjoyable things about the season. But I felt like they were really like moving the ball in terms of like understanding each other and and growing and learning from stuff as opposed to just like shutting people down when they say the wrong thing yeah I mean I guess we have to hear what where Jenny stands like it's very possible she said she's going to tell her truth like is she going to come on and stand by what she said even though she did already release a statement she and she apologized yeah I don't know see me and Brian were talking about this

too I think there's I don't know what the right way to handle it was, but there are definitely two schools of thought here. People are like, get rid of her. Or people are like, why don't we hold her accountable on the season and have her, you know, sit face to face with, you know, all the women, including women of color and justify like that's punishment. It is like. No, but that's being held accountable

you know having to answer for what you've done and to like have conversations about it as opposed to like just being fired I don't I feel like being the word accountable has just become a euphemism for being canceled yeah no I I hear you I don't know what the right decision is but I don't know what the right decision is I'm down with the firing because she sucks like yes I'm not going to miss her as a housewife though you know I'm gonna miss Carlin I know I know that this whole thing was really tough on you for Carlin but also like I I take umbrage with Bravo for a number of reasons here like so first of all back to the Leanne thing I feel like they waited to see like how the audience was gonna feel about it before they made a decision.

And then this season, like really the exact same thing happened with Mary Cosby. And if Bravo had any scruples, they would have fired her the next day after those comments were made because like that's the precedent. So it just feels like they sort of wait around to see what everybody like wants them to do. And it doesn't come from a place of like they feel this way or they have strong principles. It's just like, oh, well. It's performative. It's actually the definition of performative. And there's been a lot of critical feedback for Bravo, especially as it pertained to this

issue. Like if you read their comments on the statement on Instagram, people are calling them out like hard. I agree with you. Like they, there's no, they don't have like a template that they follow. They just like see what the reaction is. Willy nilly. Yeah, it's, they're spineless.

Yeah, they don't, they have no scruples. I completely agree. Also, like they go through extensive background checks, these women. That's how Noella even found out that her husband wasn't dead. It like blew up her entire life. Like, so I mean, I can't imagine that they saw like they saw these posts and and they hired her or or but how do they you not like to do it's messy doing like someone's social media uh history is like the textbook background check these days so I just

yeah I don't understand I agree no it's been handled very poorly by Bravo. And it's, it's eliciting different reactions from people. But I think overall, the message is like, okay, but what about Mary? And also a lot of the comments are okay, Ramona. Me and Brian were talking about that at the end of the episode. Because like, you can't bring, that's the thing. It's like, there's no equal, there's no equality. Like, not equality, but you know what I mean like they're not handling each situation the same yeah but also I feel like Ramona messes up a lot on the show and says the wrong thing quite often it's often like very ignorant and offensive and doesn't realize and she has moments of learning throughout the show and like I do feel like from if years ago like she is a more understanding sympathetic person I don't know if everyone would agree with you on that but I hear you you know I so I feel like there's like opportunities

for the viewers and for the ladies themselves to like learn from these situations and I just I don't know that just like firing her just like that was the ultimately does anything productive or leads toward healing in general we're so divided like let's let's bring people together and have some hard conversations yeah I think maybe they would have taken that route if Jenny was a housewife worth saving and that's really at the end of the day that's what it comes down to I'm sorry okay it was not a housewife worth saving I think she gave she gave nothing I think that's a fair assessment and that could also explain why Ramona sticks around you know what because say what you want about Ramona she's deeply problematic she is entertaining she provides value to a franchise

year after year say what you want about her but we're always talking about her I have not had one thing to say about Jenny this season except cringe yeah and carlin sure yeah but carlin's got her sign saturdays and she'll be okay she's gonna be fine yeah but dewey might be you know looking for a new right and then also it's like so she said last week on the show that she broke her husband's ribs in a fit of anger oh my god i totally forgot about that like that what that was giving bronwyn like what why why are we letting an actual abuser on the show it was so weird so again just like their scruples are all over the place agreed oh my god i totally forgot about that she's just so problematic she has to go okay well she's. And now they're down to five women.

Who knows if they'll bring someone else on. But then also yesterday, Heather and Jen Shah were spotted, like, outside Mary's church filming, like, looking for Mary. Yeah, also Meredith, like, responded to a tweet. Because someone was like, you shouldn't even be on the show. Like, you don't even like these women. And you're always walking away. And she was like, no, like, you're right. So, like, is she leaving on the show like you don't even like these women and you're always walking away and she was like no like you're right so like is she leaving also yeah I don't know she is above it in my opinion she is there maybe maybe they'll bring in some

new people I mean I think they have to bring in new people now so we'll see yeah what happens but but it's not gonna be Jenny no but it's also interesting that they're filming while the season is still airing it feels like a very quick turnaround does it not there's just a lot happening it does but i also feel like bravo is needing to like make up for lost covet time yeah yeah you know plus with everything like changing by the day with jen shaw they don't want to miss anything right right right because we've totally gotten off track like of that storyline oh yeah goodbye goodbye are you ready for our next story i am i really really am kanye west is sitting down with jason lee of hollywood unlocked and sharing that he stopped a second sex tape of kim and ray jay from leaking the easy designer told

jason lee that despite his ongoing divorce from kim he allegedly did her the ultimate favor and got the tape back he said i went and got the laptop from Ray J myself that night. I met this man at the airport then got on a red eye came back and delivered it to her at 8 a.m. in the morning. He said that Kim was so relieved at the sight of the laptop that she broke down in tears. He said she cried when she saw it. You know why she cried when she seen it on the laptop because it represents how much she's been used. It represents how much people didn't love her and they just saw her as a commodity. A spokesperson for Kim confirmed there was a laptop but denied the existence of any explicit content. They said the computer and hard drive collected were supposed to contain the original video and any unseen footage.

After review, there was nothing sexual unseen, only footage on the plane on the way to Mexico and footage at a club and restaurant restaurant on the same trip kim remains firm in her belief that there is no new second sex tape that exists after 20 years she truly wishes to move on from this chapter literally and focus instead on the positive things she continues to do as a mother entrepreneur and advocate for justice reform amen i've really had enough no this story gives me a pit and you know what it feels very icky to me that Kanye is out doing a podcast and maybe this wasn't his intention or whatever but he's out doing a podcast just like talking about his ex-wife the mother of his children's sex tape like seriously this is like the first time where like I actually cannot defend Kanye like I'm actually upset I'm upset too I I do feel like

when he goes on these podcasts especially like long form he's just talking and he's not yes like thinking about like you know the what this means and the fact that like after everything that Kim has written through like to bring it back to the sex tape also for you to go out of your way to like rescue her quote-unquote and get the tape back only to tell everyone about it what's the point so I this story just like really um bothers me me too and it just Kim has come so far and I'm sure it really bothers her too and you can tell from this statement they're like they're like fighting back but you know what like Kim and I think she's maintained this and I think she'll continue maintain this philosophy

for as long as she can. Like, she will not say a bad word publicly about Kanye, but he's making it extremely difficult. Yeah. Yeah, he's being, like, super... Like a dick. No, just at public these days. Like, he should...

Right, the kids, the security guards, they won't let me into Kylie's party. Like, doing the podcasts, like... Come on the toast, Kanye. You have something you want let me into Kylie's party. Doing the podcasts. Come on the toast, Kanye. You have something you want to say? Uh-oh. Could we handle it? Of course.

Yeah. Yeah, we could. We could. It doesn't bode well. There's a lot. He's just every day it's something new with him and Julia. And it's just not a recipe for success. I'm over it. Over it. And it's feeling not a recipe for success. I'm over it. Over it.

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Jurors ruled on Tuesday that Kabe is responsible for $1 million in punitive damages. Her company was ordered to pay an additional $500,000, and she will have to reimburse Cardi B for the rapper's legal costs, which add up to $1.3 million. Cardi B said in a statement shared with People, After almost four years of repeated libel and slander against me, being able to walk away from this victorious brings me great happiness. I appreciate Judge Wray for conducting a fair and impartial trial. I'm grateful for the jury and their careful deliberation over the past two weeks.

I am profoundly grateful for the hard work and support from my legal team. Most importantly, thank you to my family and close friends who held my hand and helped me get the support I needed during this experience you know this is really crazy because I actually love when celebrities win defamation suits because we just live in like a a society and we have a legal system that really doesn't protect public figures from people just saying whatever the fuck they want about them um but i don't know i feel a little conflicted that like this is about a youtuber do you know what i mean it's not like it's not like cardi's suing you know buzzfeed that has like millie like i i have to assume this youtuber does not have three million dollars uh it doesn't say but it the remarks um in the lawsuit filed accused her of making malicious claims

against her such as alleging the rapper was a prostitute cheated on her husband used cocaine and contracted herpes and hpv she also um said that when cardi b was pregnant with her daughter culture it could result in a child born with special needs oh okay sorry i totally take back what i said and though i don't know this youtuber um i'm sure it's like a gossip channel and i'm sure that she has enough circulation the fact that this even like reached on her radar and like really weighed heavily on her i think it was a source of a lot of like sadness and depression for her and she talks about you know like the mental health consequences of being on the internet in general for like you know kids in school and she has the means and the resources to fight back against online bullies and that's what she's gonna do

so I I think this is a good precedent to set yeah no it's true and it does definitely make you think about like social media personalities as news sources and like where the accountability lies like honestly my first thought when I saw this was like du moi and yeah no yeah it's like this gray area where you're not a news outlet but you have an enormous platform and sometimes like you're just saying blanket things and and does that include you like could you technically be liable in a defamation lawsuit I And I think this sets like an interesting legal precedent. Yeah. I don't know how it works like all the time.

But it's definitely an interesting crossroads. You know it's just like a first time thing. It also reminds me of like Heather McDonald and the Jim. What was his name? Jim Bellino. Yeah. also reminds me of like heather mcdonald and the jim what was his name jim bellino yeah like she and shannon and she actually ended up winning her lawsuit which was like a huge thing for podcasters but it's just like this gray area that we're now in where like podcasts and like this kind of grassroots type of media has just as much influence and as much of a platform as like major news outlets so like are you supposed like are we being held to the same standard?

It's just like an interesting conversation. Yeah, it is. And I think that, you know, these cases are very hard to win. So for the celebrities. So, you know, there was clearly defamatory. What a disgusting thing to say. Like, oh my, no wonder like it obviously got bothered, Cardi. Like those are horrible things to

say yeah yeah so a little bit of justice wait got my gavel justice oh has been served nice are you ready for our next story yes disney is rethinking snow white after peter dinklage calls out the use of dwarves it's time it's time yep so peter dinklage was on a podcast mark maron's wtf podcast and love to see podcast making news he slammed the new snow white and the seven dwarves film which has been um talked about rachel zegler is playing snow white oh is she yes and he called the use of dwarves fucking backwards uh he was saying literally no offense to anyone but i was a little taken aback when they were very proud to cast a latina actress as snow white but you're still telling the story of snow white and the seven dwarves take a step

back and look at what you're doing there it makes no sense to me you're progressive in one way but then you're still making that fucking backwards story about seven dwarves living in a cave together what the fuck are you doing man have i have i done nothing to advance the cause for my soapbox i guess i'm not loud enough he said if you tell the story of snow white with the most fucked up, cool, or progressive spin on it. Let's do it. All in. Then this caused Disney to respond to what he said. They said to avoid reinforcing stereotypes from the original animated film. We are taking a different approach with these seven characters and have been consulting with members of the dwarfism community. We look forward to sharing more as the film heads into production after a lengthy development period. Honestly, they just really shouldn't be called dwarves because the story should just, if they change it to like the seven campers, you know what I mean?

Like something else, they shouldn't, because dwarves exist in the real world. So putting them like in a fantasy is just trivializing it. Like I actually have thought for a while how weird it was that like, they were called the seven dwarves. Like they just have to change it. Like it's not, it's really not a big deal. The storyline doesn't have to change whatsoever. No, but he's saying the storyline does,

like if they are like living in this cave together, like it's just, you know, a misrepresentation of this community. And I really think that what he says, like sums up exactly like the, the, how you could look at this script and say, we're going to be like, you know, progressive and that you glaringly miss the most offensive part of it. I agree. And probably the most offensive part of any of the major Disney stories. And I think that the movie title like the movie is Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

And I don't even know if they were going to use that title like the movie is Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and I don't even know if they were going to use that title like for this new one like it's right there in front of your face yeah and they think that they're like being inclusive and progressive in other ways when they're just missing like what's actually harmful it's comical yeah so good for him and he's making change change is happening good Peter Dinklage is 100% right. And you know what? He is an icon. He's right.

Like, has he done nothing? He's so famous. And we're still not getting it. Mm-hmm. He's right. He's totally right. Yeah. So we'll see the changes that they make and what the new movie will look like.

I didn't know Rachel Zegler was playing Snow White. Yeah. And this is the one where Gal Gadot is playing Evil Queen. Oh. Pasek and Paul are doing the soundtrack. Oh. Andrew Burnap is in it. Oh, so we need to make it as good as possible because it's going to be good.

Yeah, yeah. But it's just like so crazy. They had all these things checked off, you know, we're ready and we're going to make this great movie that everyone's going to love. And they missed. The mark. The mark. Completely.

With Marc Maron. Yes. Okay. Now are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. And I have a big surprise for everyone. Okay? Okay.

It's the final story it's the final story i've got a new instrument don Don't be jealous, you vicious wenches. Yeah! And that's magic number. That was beautiful. What instrument is that, Claudia? I'm not sure. It was a gift from Artem, our production coordinator. And it's from Treeworks, handmade in Nashville.

I don't know. It's like a tabletop triangle. It's beautiful. I feel like the principal at Grace, you know, like. Yes. Good morning, Rydell High. Yes. Love that. That is some smooth sounds.

Calm should put that in their app. Such a sweet and thoughtful gift. I'm getting mine today i'm really excited i love bruce to sleep with it hey bruce come to heating pad ice ice ice ice ice ice on the ice amazing our fifth and final story, switching gears completely, completely, which you know I love to do. Starting in 2024, U.S. students will take the SAT entirely online. I guess that's accurate. I feel that. The SAT, a college admissions exam long associated with paper and pencil, pencils down, will soon go all digital, starting in 2023 for

international students and 24 for U.S. The new digital SAT will shrink from three hours to two, include shorter reading passages, and allow students to use a calculator on the math sections. You're kidding! Yeah, I mean, at this point in technology, you can't say you're not always going to have a calculator with you, though I would imagine that this will mean that the math section will be harder. Yeah, that's true. But you know what?

Like, I actually feel really jealous. Like, the shorter time, doing it from home, those were some of the worst Sundays of my life. Like, getting up so early, hours and hours of tests and, like, little snacks you had to eat between. Like, I fucking hated taking the SATs. Tests will still take place at school though. But students will be able to choose between using their own devices including a tablet or a laptop if they can get one. So it's not from home.

It's just digital. It's just digital or the school's devices. Okay. But I feel like what's to stop eventually from being from home. There are all these new technology platforms now that like where people like in college were taking exams and like the computer is like watching you. And you can't open other tabs. And you can't like, I don't know, and cheat even though like what's to stop you from having

something like right next to your computer. Having a textbook literally next to your computer. I don't know. Maybe just the honor code. Nah. That's really curious. I wouldn't trust the honor code? Nah. That's really curious. I wouldn't trust the honor code with these kids. Yeah. You need a 360 camera.

Yeah, but I guess if you're on the computer in school, there's still a proctor. Yes, of course, of course. I'm not worried about it for that. But when people were doing exams from home, even though they use these apps that make sure that they're watching you, I have something right here. Next. They were definitely cheating. Like there's no way around it. Yeah.

Okay. If you took exams in college in like the pandemic, what's the deal? Were you cheating and how? And if you weren't, were others, were there ways to get it or what? Even your phone. Like you keep your phone. Look, you can't even see my phone right here. Or what systems did they have in place to make sure that you couldn't do that stuff something to think about anyways i

mean this seems like you know pretty obvious but it's also kind of shocking because i feel like the sat could have been one of those things it's just like it's a test and it's always going to be it's not like we've done away with pencil and paper in general yeah so especially if they're still going into the school yeah and I do feel like in some situations it's it might be more helpful to be on a computer but like for a reading section reading on a computer is like not really ideal yeah like you have to read your whole passage on the computer yeah but it's nice for when you have to I don't know if the writing section. They didn't mention it.

Of course, that's so helpful. Clickety clack. You could write your whole essay in literally seven minutes. Yeah. That's probably what also is taking less time. Yes. For the campers. Yes.

The manual labor of pen and paper. Yeah. And maybe this will mean you'll get your scores back sooner. Who knows? So that's just a big shift i think yeah me too no it's like we're gonna be able to tell our kids like oh yeah i took that test but back in my day we had to write it yeah we had to fill in the bubble crazy um so we're officially old i guess that's what it means yes yes it does So we're officially old. I guess that's what it means. Yes.

Yes, it does. Lesson of the day. I wasn't sure, but now I am. Okay, TV recap. Let's do it. All right, TV recap. Vanderpump Rules reunion part one of only two, which I felt like we didn't cover a lot of ground. So I was, like, surprised that there's only two episodes.

And the second part is tonight. It is? Yeah, it's not next week, which is like kind of a stunning, beautiful thing. Oh, they're just like ending it. Yeah, they're just like goodbye, good day, sir. But because they're doing it in this way, I'm like very much into it. Maybe they want to start filming, like fast. Maybe.

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Like he was just being so funny. Like when he literally walked out when they were talking about Charlie's food party, like I couldn't agree more. I'm sorry for what you're going through but like we really don't care um he was being so funny when raquel was like um do you want the ring back right now he's like sure sure that's a bitcoin that's a bitcoin which is he was just being really funny and he was also being very genuine and earnest and and i know it was i guess i didn't realize that like raquel really broke up with him yeah and that was my biggest takeaway from the evening. Yeah. No, he was being really honest on all counts, and I appreciated it. I agree.

When he stormed off because he didn't want to talk about curry and samosas, I was just like, yeah, none of us wanted to watch it or either. And even when Andy asked Charlie the question, he was like, viewers, you got a lot of positivity about how open you were about your food struggles. Can you tell us more about that? because still like I don't know what they are well also why was Charlie like a full-time cast member like aside from that food thing she was not involved whatsoever well they just need like warm bodies people yeah I think that if everybody else had shown up to the reunion she would have had like a I guess

if Brock can be there then she can be there I'm sorry Brock was the whole season Brock is an animal least favorite person ever and now I just can't fucking stand and now him coming for James and James is like slowly becoming one of my favorite people same I'm just like no no no oh no um it was really sad to hear from James and Raquel, but I agree with Tom Schwartz. It takes a lot of courage to make that choice right now and not to let years go by or you don't want to disrupt what's comfortable or disrupt your life. And I have so much respect for the two of them, especially because you would think they're two people who like, they're living this LA life they're on the show seemingly fine it's so terrible easy for them

to stay together so many people are invested in their relationship and instead they're taking the harder path and I have a lot of respect for that also because like not even just in the public eye of dealing with a breakup but like going through a breakup you know a lot of people just like keep stay or keep going back because it's like I don't want to be alone did you get the vibe that like Raquel might be leaving the show yeah because she was saying like she wants to work and she doesn't want to like the LA life is not really for good for her what's best for her I have so much respect for Raquel the flashbacks the way that she's grown over the years she's like it's a really wonderful thing to witness it's not something you get to see from people that often because you know no not a lot of people have like all this years of footage of their life but like she really has grown into a wonderful self-assured but still so sweet woman

and that was lovely to see because I think sometimes reality tv has the opposite effect I agree it was like a beautiful moment yeah um and I I definitely felt like she might not be returning yeah especially now that Jane they're not together it's James is obviously staying on the show that's even harder on a breakup when like you're trying to move away from someone and you they're in your everyday life I think that it would be best for her I'll miss her shockingly but I think she should go and she should do the things that she wanted to do with her life and this was will have just been like a fun interim thing that she also just get the vibe like she comes from family money and like she doesn't need the show oh I mean I I get the vibe

that her family is not at all impressed or interested in her being on the show I don't think she like can not work necessarily no but I don't think she needs the show like some of the others kind of need financially yeah and I think some of the others like might be a little bit more untethered from their families whereas like she can always just like go back home get her degree and what she wanted to do and get to work whereas like some I don't want to like some other people like where would they even start if they left the show speaking of financials the whole conversation about the loans and I forgot that Lisa had offered to buy them out plus a

hundred thousand dollars like I wanted to die. And then also seeing their progress, which is nothing, knowing that they're sinking their mortgages, their savings. I know Sandoval said he takes care of his family. I am heartbroken about Schwartz. I am heartbroken over

Schwartz and Sandy's. I think in retrospect, they will think it is the dumbest thing they ever did. I think Sandoval is responsible for forcing Schwartz into this arrangement, making them like this stupid duo who need to open another restaurant. And I think it is an enormous mistake. I agree. The progress or lack thereof was shocking.

It was a joke. A joke. And it was interesting to hear katie say and this has never been the narrative that sandoval is like not a good easy person to work with like doesn't show up doesn't answer stuff like i think when he's in front of you when he's in front of you he's giving you the most most most but then wherever he is wherever he is when you're not with him he's giving all that to the next person. And like there's he's not balanced in his work ethic. I found because you would think like between it's based on what we saw on the show between

Tom Sandoval and Schwartz that like Sandoval does most of the work of the work. But no, no, I love Katie. And yes, she's obviously biased because Schwartz is her husband. But I do believe she's an extremely accurate historian. Like I believe her POV for of things yeah no and Schwartz is like not it's not like she's ever said that before or anything close to it I think she can like see Schwartz for who he is and he's like so like goofy and lovable and so I I don't think she would say that if it wasn't true because it's so counter to like what you would expect from the two of them agreed I thought they all looked really great Sheena um it's just awful like really awful but I didn't know about her um birth story and I

actually thought it sounded really similar to Olivia yeah with the preeclampsia and I actually I had a lot of sympathy for her um but like I don't know why she she dies on every hill like she can't just like really let anything go like even with the tv thing it was funny like let it go oh my god it was funny and it was hysterical actually yeah she it was really crazy to watch like her minions turn on her I don't think she ever expected that from Charlie and that's why I'm not like fully out on Charlie because I sometimes she just surprises me in the most I respect it unexpected ways. Yeah, and she has a lot of – it's true.

Like you would have thought last season like she was a mini Sheena. But like she said, I'm not Sheena. Oh my god. She had actually some great one-liners. I don't need attention. I'm not you. Yeah. She was being like kind of funny.

She was. And it was like Sheena's world was like crumbling around her when even Raquel like couldn't lie for her for Danica and what did Danica do Danica what did Danica do to Sheena that meant cutting her out from everyone's lives I have no idea and like sounds like Danica's really toxic sounds like we need her on the show sounds like we need her on the show yeah the show needs more toxicity no it just like needs more people and it's I don't know where they're gonna and I think they realize like nobody wants actually new people you know no they don't not unless they come on and like Brock you know Sheena's man or something like that or Raquel when Andy accidentally called Brock Robb oh my god

iconic love to see it and you know I've said it once and I'll say it again I've really been enjoying Lisa Vanderpump this season I think this new hybrid role she's taken on as like a mentor is so the role she should have been playing for the last couple years instead of fake boss agreed um but so really not a lot happened and that's why I was so surprised. It was giving part one of three, but it's part one of two. Yeah, I think they're just kind of like getting it over with, maybe because the season didn't perform well or something. But the more that they're being brusque about it, the more interested I am. If it were three parts, I would be complaining through every part

because that would have mean we got even less last night. I'm excited to watch again tonight, to put the season behind me, and I hope they start filming again, but I they make um a few changes a few changes have you ever thought about like if they brought back Stassi and Kristen no honestly for me like it's over especially Kristen yeah I guess Kristen like doesn't really fit into the because Lisa just like really fucking hates Kristen yeah but Lisa and Stassi I know are close. Like I guess I could envision a world where Stassi came back. But you know what.

I don't think it would work in anyone's best interest. Like it's over. Yeah. Or Jax and Brittany. Oh beyond over. You know Brittany maybe but. It was weird that they even asked about them. Like that was.

Like the questions were just like so random. Like that was like the questions were just like so random. But watching Jax like in the flashback like just took me back to another time. Say what you want. Jax was an iconic reality star. He was so insane when he was like, this is my show. Like what? It was sorry.

It was so good. I do miss that chaotic, toxic energy. Me too. And I do feel like James has stepped up to the plate. And it's actually a shame because they never could see eye to eye. But I think that because James has matured a little bit, and he's less like, now when he pops off, he's popping off with purpose. Popping off with purpose.

As opposed to in the past when he just would go, maybe it's because of the no longer drinking. He still has his anger issues. But like they're not. It's not as like distracted. And it's very more like, you know, he knows what he's angry about. And I just feel like Jax and James would get along these days. I agree.

And I would have loved to see them taking the town together. Yeah. And also Jax not being here has, you know, paved the way for everyone to see Sandoval for the villain that he is yes and you know what I love to see it so all right I guess it's over tonight and there's no episode tomorrow but um we'll talk about it next week if you're listening as a podcast don't go anywhere we've got an interview with Brian Kelly and if you're watching on YouTube and you want to watch YouTube it's just the next video on our channel um and that's our last show of the week you guys because I'm headed to Philly and D.C. I can't wait to see you guys.

I'm very excited to be back on tour. It's going to be so fun. Brian's coming. Counselor's coming. Ben's coming. I heard Counselor's coming. Counselor's only coming to parks, but it's going to be a full family affair, and I'm very excited.

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Claude, you want to hit us with a little musical outerlude? Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.

I still need to learn how to use this thing, but goodbye, bitch. Goodbye. You need to take lessons. Welcome back to the Morning Toast, you guys. I'm very excited to be sitting down with someone I consider a friend, but today, you're not my friend. Wait, you consider me just a friend? Claudia, the woman who says you're my best friend. It's more best friends than I've

ever met. By the way, that's true. I don't have a lot of best friends. Okay, sorry. Let me start over. Today, I'm seated down with my best friend in the entire world, the person who I would literally give a kidney to. But today, he's not that. He is the subject of international news headlines. And I wanted to get the scoop on what the hell's going on it is Brian Kelly the points guy your favorite toast guest but today you're more than that you're always more than that I'm on the chopping block you're on the chopping block okay so I have a lot I want to talk to you about obviously like we need to just kiki I also really want to talk to you about housewives because there's so much drama going on but before that like you have been in the news quite a bit this week and last week it It's just like a really uncomfortable place for me to be.

I know. I know you're not used to it. I hate the spotlight. Attention. Attention like really gets to me because I'm actually an introvert. You know what I mean? No, and you're like an empath too. Yes.

It's, you know, I knew 2022 would be an explosive year, but, you know, getting sued by the world's largest airline wasn't exactly on that mood board that we created. I think we did create a mood board, and that was not on the mood board. But I think we should just talk about it. First of all, what's going on? Second of all, like, can you break it down? If someone who doesn't keep up with travel news, like, what's going on? So the biggest thing, you know, at the points guy, you know, points and miles are confusing. You know, it's a blessing that there's so many credit cards and bonuses, but like no human can actually read every post that we write or, you know, the credit card companies now have bonuses and rotating categories and the airlines.

You know, they're actually having a lot of good things that happened over the pandemic where you can change your flights, but it's so confusing. So we, for years in-house developed the TPG app, which we launched officially in September, but we've been in beta since last June. And one of the cool things about the app is that you can tell us like what programs you like Delta or now you like United. I'm a United girly now. Sorry, don't at me Delta. Delta never even reached out to me to thank me for being such a great customer. And what did United do to you in Houston? United is very grateful for my patronage. And that makes me feel good because when I was in Houston, they literally picked me up at the gate, drove me to the Centurion Lounge, gave me a handwritten card,

told me they appreciated my business. And that's something I've ever experienced at Delta. So I'm just putting it out there. Like, Delta, I'm still open. Like, I can be bought. And meanwhile, all my friends, people who are traveling with friends, they're like, oh my God, Brian, does this happen to you in every airport? I open up my card from United.

It's like, thanks for bringing Claudia over. It wasn't even about me. We digress. Not to make everything about us. Airlines, look, we're all, it's 2022. We want to travel. So the point of the TPG app, it's the only app out there where you can get your net worth in points. And everyone that I talk to, when you take your time and you finally connect your accounts, people have tons of value.

The whole point of TPG, why I started this is to get people traveling. And I think that's good for the airline business. So, you know, we approached all the airlines because I actually think, you know, to get younger people into loyalty, it's really difficult. Like if they're just going to try to get business travelers, like they need the millennial and Gen Z generation and we use technology no and you're right like they are missing out like right now the points business is very much like an older person business travel and if i had started collecting points when i was like 18 like traveling you know during college i would be much better off now yeah and and so you know and i do think like the gen z generation is much more educated on personal finance.

So long story short, we launched this app. And it's amazing. I've been using it for months. And over time, and this is just version one, there's so many things we want to do with it where basically we learn where you are, where you travel, and we can push alert deals to you. So if you live in Detroit and you're trying to go anywhere warm in March, we can actually. But American came to us and said, we don't want to be a part of this. American Airlines. American Airlines. And we're like, well, you know, you're the world's largest airline.

And, you know, a lot of our readers have accounts, myself included. I've been an elite. So like if a consumer says, hey, points guy, we want you to keep track of our account. Fundamentally, we just think it's the consumer's choice. Agreed. it's my data i think i should decide and the airlines have gotten away with a lot they've bullied a lot of companies because a lot of startups will try to do this and then they get cease and desisted and then they don't have the money because in our legal system it's really expensive yeah well

they're messing with the wrong people because you know we're a part of red ventures which is a massive media company we're a pro consumer we ownures, which is a massive media company. We're a pro-consumer. We own sites like Lonely Planet, Healthline, CNET. Like, we help consumers make decisions that are best for them. And, you know, when we were creating that, we knew that there might be friction. But, you know, this is what happened. But every other airline is on board, correct? Yeah.

I mean, no one has ceased and desisted us. A lot of the airlines are like, we love this. We don't have the tech resources right now because we're in a pandemic and we laid off our whole, you know, IT department. But no one has said like, you can't do this. Use it.

Because the point is, we literally, we create new loyal customers and loyal customers, credit card customers are the most valuable. How much did you spend on your Mexico ticket?

Literally. Claudia spent more on a flight to Mexico. Brian, shut up. Do not blow up my spot. It was the only seat left. Oh God. It's literally the price

of like an Asia business class ticket ticket anywho so anyway the app is to help consumers they said we don't want to be a part of it we're like well we need to do what's best for our consumer and if all of a sudden consumer you can only track one out of ten airlines what's the value of that yeah so we're kind of like all or nothing them first so they cease and desist at us and we kind of countersuit saying no. The consumers write to their data, and if we want to have that discussion, let's have it. Because a decade ago, the banks – so today you can use Mint, all sorts of financial apps that will pull in all of your financial data, and you can make better decisions. That's good for consumers, right?

We're doing the same thing in travel. But when Mint came in a decade ago, the banks were like due to security you can't do it and mint was like and just like we're saying it's security's your issue which they're kind of claiming you can create an api which is a yes and american interestingly had an api with a ward wallet which is a tracking service uh i know the founder and they just canceled it in de, over a decade. A secure connection. So this is not about secure connections. No, it's not. So don't let them fool you. So you decided to counter-sue them after they cease and desist to do it.

I just think there's a little smoking gun here. And I'm just going to say, maybe it's coincidental, but I'll let intelligent consumers see what's going on. So American Airlines is the only airline that expires their members points which is so dumb if i earn these points they're mine forever and the airlines sell these points for billions to credit card companies so the consumer and get this they gave a reprieve over the pandemic but april 1st of 2022 they're going to start expiring miles again and guess what if you haven't had activity within 18 months let's do the math from april 1 right what's back 18 months the peak of the pandemic when people are worried about their kids going to school like i'm sorry not everyone's logging into aa.com every day like checking your

activity so i'm not saying it's a conspiracy but why did they block a ward wallet their partner of 10 years and why are they telling tpg right before this big date where they're going to get you know a lot of money in expired miles like that? And they're going to piss people off. Because if I was an American Airlines customer for a while, and obviously I haven't traveled a lot in the last two, three years, and I find out in April that all my miles are going to get expired, I'm going to be pissed. Well, and you may not even find out because if you're not opted into emails, or how often

do you read, how many emails do you get from an airline a thousand but if the tpg app which you use every day push alerts you it says claudia your miles next month are going to expire here five things to do to keep them active today yeah no we've been talking about your app for so long how like no-brainer it is because i feel like the what your app is essentially is what i use you for i'm like brian i have x miles here credit card here what do i do and you're like oh my god i 20 minutes. I say I created this app so I can enjoy dinner parties again. Yes. So like not everyone is giving you their whole points profile and you have to like plan a trip to the Maldives for them. One of our friends from, I'm helping one of our

friends from San Francisco and Mexico with her points. Oh good. Yeah. Like that's what you do. And, and I've used the app a million times. It's so good. There's literally no reason why a brand wouldn't want to be on board. Because at the end of the day, like if I, and that's really what drew me to United is like, I have paid for many, many, like very expensive flights with points because it pays to be loyal. You use points to go to Israel. You get your business class. They were insanely expensive.

I just did Rome for $11. Literally. Live were insanely expensive. I just did Rome for $11. Literally. Live flatbeds. So this is like, and I think most people, and I've had friends at the airlines who are like, we want to do this with you, but like these are just such archaic institutions. And, you know, to get anything done at any humongous company. So, so yeah, so we're now, so we countersue, basically said, no, let's take this up. We're both, you know, both of our companies are incorporated in Delaware.

Let's like hash it out and let's see. Let's, you know, understand. I also just think it's a little egregious that American. So, you know, Delta is actually extended vouchers in 2022. American is not like American. You know, they've been the least customer friendly. Right. They have no mercy on us. Like we've been through a hard time. Like so on the eve of them expiring, getting back to taking away their Miles members, they're going to try to sue the points guy. So we just like, you know what? It's enough.

Like, let's have the discussion. Yeah. I think at the end of the day, as long as consumers are aware of what's going on, you know, our mission is accomplished. Yes. So let me ask you a question because I was reading a lot of the comments because I want to see, because for me it's like a no brainer. What you're doing is you're fighting for people like us who earn our points and just want to keep them and just want to be able to use them and maximize them. But what is the argument against what you're doing? Like what would devil's advocate say? So the devil's advocate would say, well, the airlines create these programs and they have terms and conditions.

And just like the airlines, when they screw you over with like canceling your flight and they owe you nothing. Yeah. Like some people are just like, they're like the corporation knows bets and what's best for us. Right. No, I don't agree. Then there's the argument about privacy, you know, security breaches data. We get it. So we're open. We've got a whole team ready to go tomorrow. If American wants to do a secure API connection, totally get it. We can do that. Yeah. And then the other, I think they're suing us over trademark infringement. And if you read the lawsuit, it's like, we've worked years to build this gorgeous brand. And if it's seen on the points guy, then it dilutes the brand. Meanwhile, I'm like, I'm pretty sure if you do some brand research, whose brand is valued

more by the consumer. Yeah. And by the way, how dare you? That's a great brand association, the points guy. I know they said in the app we had American Airlines content. Meanwhile, the content is like how to get the most value. What's the best flight? Just trying to help.

Seriously. It's so dumb. Don't kill the messenger. Don't kill the messenger. And every time I get on a Delta Airlines flight and I see your little logo on the side of the plane, I am so proud. So you've built a great business. I appreciate you fighting for us. If I had 100 hundred thousand American airlines

miles that were going to get expired, I would be so furious. Like, so I didn't even know that first of all. And that's why I, I don't even think I have an American airlines account. So I'm not worried about myself, but a lot of people might. Yeah. So if you want to help just, I would, you know, on social media, if you just want to tag, Hey, American airlines, we love the points guy. Like, you know, instead of suing the points guy like make your planes better you know or work with the points guy like

so I mean I think there's a lot better uses of everyone's energy resources we don't we're not a litigious company this might you know like

I would love nothing more than to just settle this and you know in the end everyone wins they get better customers customers use their points more people travel more people are loyal

because they know that it pays off everyone can win here. Everyone can win. Now, I can't let you go yet. And I'm going to do a huge shift in content right now. But there is so much going on in the Bravo Housewife universe. And you are like my favorite person to giggle and gossip about.

So can I get your take on what's going on in the Bravo universe right now? Yes. So the Jenny situation. What stuck with Salt Lake City in general? Obviously, the big news yesterday was Jenny was fired. Salt Lake Karen. Jenny was fired. Yeah.

What are your thoughts? So, I mean, I saw some of what she posted was very, I mean, insensitive doesn't even bring it up. I mean, she has kind of a Karen mindset. Yes. You know, like where instead of focusing on the root cause of protest, she was like looters and then she was like joking about like killing protesters which is just like yeah yeah and so it's it started off with like okay you're kind of a karen now you're so you know as both um people who have experienced cancel culture i'm not you know like in the mindset of chopped their head off immediately um and i think bravo's getting heat that they kind of were silencing the other

housewives. Jen Shaw got fired for a day, but now she's back. No one was allowed to say anything. By the way, did you see Jen Shaw and Heather Gay? Someone posted it. Filming outside Mary's church.

Yes, I did. It's like the most awkward film set. Now we've seen how the sausage gets made. Yes. It's really awkward. And by the way, New Jersey housewives is premiering soon.

And you and I like might be on an episode. I, John Fazula was in, I think by the way, New Jersey Housewives is premiering soon. And you and I might be on an episode. Well, John Fazula was in, I think, one of the... And actually, Tim Cush, who was there that night. Oh, they were in the previews for that episode? Well, yeah, you can see them. And Taylor Donahue. Oh, my God, I didn't even see that. You didn't know that, yeah.

No. Or maybe it was a strecker. Where were we? At the bar. But I'm wearing my sleeveless Versace outfit. Oh, you look great. So I should be easy to pick out. Let me ask you a question.

Cause there's a lot of conversation now because of Jenny, like where's the same energy for Mary Cosby? Because Mary Cosby actually said atrocious things on camera. I know. I agree that there's multiple like, so it's Ramona, let's bring it back to New York. So I've talked to housewives of New York.

I mean, Ramona has done allegedly many racist things like and so it's interesting it's like I get Bravo's point that like these twisted humans like Vicky Gunvalson was had many beyond and we only get to see one percent of yes footage like you know that there is so much problematic footage so I think it is a slippery slope when you start putting everyone on their microscope. Right. But Jenny's stuff was pretty... But Jenny also, as a housewife, was top five, one of my least favorite who ever graced my screen.

So for that, I'm grateful. But I know you're ultra upset about Carlin. Carlin? Oh, Jackie, actually. So Jackie Ostrich is Carlin's number one fan. I actually bought a cameo from Carlin before the scandal. I don't expect her to fulfill my cameo request now because obviously her mom's going through it.

You should resend it. I did! I literally I've been waiting two weeks for my cameo for Carlin. I thought it would be a great push present for Jackie. It's not coming. Like it's never. You got her a Carlin cameo. It's a push present. Well you still have a little bit of time. No, but like now with everything going on Carlin's not going to be Dewey is probably the worst housewife. Oh, my God.

I just don't even want to know what's going on in their house right now. Do you think he's finally going to get his sister wife? You know what? Maybe that's what they need. So, anyway, I think it's good Jenny's gone. She was bad energy anyway. She was so toxic. And the thing is, like, these storylines,

I saw a lot of people were like, oh, have Jenny on so we can discuss just over the next season. I'm like, these are— Like, not that we shouldn't be discussing racial issues. Of course. But, like, taking, if you're, like, 50 years old with a twisted mindset, like, you're not going to learn. I'm sorry.

Like, call me a pessimist. I don't think we need to see that. You know, and so I actually, I mean, I think Salt Lake is so explosive and good. But it's actually getting off the rails where it's like, these people don't even remotely like each other there's no chemistry and when lisa barlow's just like i i no longer understand where this has gone it's true jen shaw just unhinged screaming for the sake of screaming okay what do you think about meredith um you know i think meredith needs to like get herself back in

the game because the whole disengaging thing, like, that ship has sailed. And you know what? She disengaged, like, 11 times during that dinner. She left and came back to the point where, like, it wasn't even cool. I mean, I love. We should, like, a montage of all the, like, housewives running away. Literally. But actually, it would be hours and hours long.

Of course. Because every episode, someone runs away. Someone has to go. Do you think production helps, like, sets up you have to go get her? Yes. Because, you know, even though I think it's technically disruptive when someone, like, gets up and walks away, it's so dramatic, and they love to use that footage in a trailer, you know? I'm done.

So I think at the end of the day, they actually really like it. You know what they need to bring? They should, actually, Taylor Armstrong, I think, lives in the mountains. She should rejoin Salt Lake. She lives in Colorado. Same thing. Same thing. I actually completely agree. I think one of the mountains. She should rejoin Salt Lake. She lives in Colorado. Same thing. Same thing. I actually completely agree.

I think one of my favorite walk-offs. Do you think Taylor Armstrong would move to Salt Lake to be a part of that cast? Meh. I think one of my favorite walk-offs in history is when Ramona walked off when they were talking about Alex Van, what was her name? McCord. Alex McCord sent Simon Van Camen's naked photos and Ramona didn't want to be associated with it.

They were filming at the Russian Tea Room remember wait what do you think do you think Candice Bushnell is gonna join Housewives of New York is that what they're saying yeah

and then she kind of disputed it in you know what I kind of but she's friends with all them and she's thirsty yeah you know what that's

that's actually not a bad call yeah I could see that being the evolution of Candice Bushnell yeah I don't hate that. She has a house in Sag Harbor.

A new show. If she has money, I'm down. I don't think she has a lot of money, though. New York Housewives financially are hanging on by a thread. Financially? I watch Housewives for aspirational lifestyles. That's what I always say. I always say that. And New York does not deliver. It does not deliver one iota of what it needs to. You know who I miss? Adrienne Malouf.

I miss her energy. I think about her constantly. And Joyce Gerard. I'm going to disagree there. No, but the Joyce Gerard, Carlton Jebbia era. Oh, Carlton. That era of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is living rent free. We didn't appreciate it when it happened.

No, we did not. We took it for granted. Let's talk about OC. What are your thoughts on what's going on, Noella? And what, you know, the travel expert is here. Wait. Is it possible that someone can travel to Mexico? No.

Private with a passport card and not a passport? Wait, let me just do a Noella. Every time she has a margarita. I needed that. Yeah. It's been tough. That's really good. That is what she does. Needed that. Need good that is what she does needed that needed that oh my god um oh see oh I like OC this season last season it was busted Heather Dubrow I think Heather Dubrow needs to tread a little bit lightly trying to just be the LV she's treading an LVP status I mean like someone and

let's just get back Shannonannon bedore is such a villain but like she's literally just bringing up a lawsuit that was public knowledge i know you know what like and i love it when they're like you could have told me directly the point of filming that show has to do it on camera tasteful for sure but we needed to know that information do you think they should break down the fourth wall more like they did on girl strip i love the fact that they talk about especially on girl strip they were talking about like we're on a show we're famous I loved it I don't think it works all the time yeah but I wish sometimes like it's just so obvious and like it's an element in people's fighting and they can't even acknowledge it which is just

like frustrating because we know we're watching Girl Strip is really good I didn't like in the beginning who do you think came out on top of Girl Strip and who do you think came out on my Teresa came out really good yeah I think Cynthia Bailey oh out on bottom. Oh, she is terrible. She is painful to watch. She has the drama of a 16-year-old girl. You didn't want to...

Bailey Q. And her questions weren't moronic. No, totally. I actually really like her on Atlanta. I was surprised she had such a hard time. I think they all came out pretty good. Yeah, Kyle and Melissa were great. Oh, wait, I have to.

I talked to Dorinda about the Bluestone Manor. Oh, when does that come out? That is going to be explosive. When does it come out? We haven't gotten a date yet? We have not gotten a date yet. And it was filmed at her home. Last July. I think it's coming out this spring. They all stayed at her house for the night?

No, for a week. Or like for multiple nights? Vicki Gumbelson. Brandi Glanville. Phaedra. Tamara Judge. Jill Zarin. Tamara. Wow, that sounds good. Unique. I think Dorinda and Phaedra formed an alliance, which is not shocking.

I love both of them. You've actually been to Bluestone Manor. Can you tell us about it? Bluestone Manor is a gorgeous facility. Gorgeous facility. It is kind of like a museum when you walk around. It's stunning. The grounds are gorgeous.

She keeps it really nice. She makes it nice. And you're also the proud new owner of a farm i am you have horses i have now four horses including ginger spice who's a miniature horse miniature horse and you can follow them on at carbon ridge oh yeah follow we're just starting the social media and i have to do an audit of the account immediately yeah but i will be there this weekend yeah so you can i will be taking content but i just i don't have the time to do it i don't have time to do my own so but um it's cute the horses are so cute i live on 30 acres i go riding so yeah i can't believe you haven't been there yet i know i'm coming this weekend brian's also

coming on tour with me you have a lot of exciting things in the pipeline you're coming on tour with me for the foreseeable future i've a new horse. You're just living your best life and you're in this... There's even some bigger things to come hopefully this year. Yes! Yes! To be continued. To be continued. So good luck on your lawsuit. The Toasters are rooting for you because you're fighting for the man. And we are the man. And we appreciate you and we love you and I love when you come on the toast and I

just could talk to you for literally two hours. well I'm so excited to see you in DC Parks Casino I think I'll be in LA San Francisco actually we're also doing a Texas weekend Austin Dallas we're doing all I'm not okay we're we are not okay collectively Claudia what is it like traveling with me there's nothing better I have to tell you there is nothing nothing better. You want to know why? Because I think before I ever traveled with you, I had such a low threshold for like patients and like when the plane was delayed five minutes, I would roll my eyes so hard. I thought they wouldn't come back to the front of my head. Like I was just so inconvenienced by every minor thing, but you travel so much. You just roll with everything and you've really kind of relaxed me as a traveler. You're like, it's not that big of a deal. We'll be out of here in 10 minutes.

And you get cool souvenirs like your rash. Oh, yes. Which, by the way, is it better? Thank you. How do you think it looks? Oh, it's much better. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Brian was there through the whole journey on the rash. We're on our way down. Wow, it looks way better. It's way better. It's remarkably better. You were there. I was icing it. I don't think you're going to be able to charge for meet and greets with your rash.

I thought Claudia should actually, as a new revenue stream, like you could take a picture with her rash. Because it's not contagious, I think. I love you, Brianna. Thank you so much for coming. Everyone, follow Brian on Instagram. Keeping up with all of his drama with American Airlines. At Brian Kelly.

At Brian Kelly. And also just his stunning horse farm. I love you. You guys have a great day. This was our last show of the week. I can't wait to see you guys in D.C. and Philly will be there it's going to be so much fun and we'll be back explosive we'll be back on the toast on Monday have an amazing weekend I love you and we'll see you Monday bye