The Toast - S5 Ep22: Pennies and Nickels: Monday, February 7th, 2022

Episode Date: February 7, 2022

Kim Kardashian Hits Back at Kanye West's 'Hurtful' Comments About North's TikTok (PEOPLE) (13:23)  Kylie Jenner Welcomes Baby Boy with Travis Scott (PEOPLE) (19:03)  Queen Elizabeth backs Camilla as 'Queen Consort' in surprise statement (NY Post) (29:24)  Andy Cohen receives Hollywood Walk of Fame star, honored by John Mayer, more (Page Six) (35:30)  New York University Launches New Course About Taylor Swift for the 2022 Spring Semester (PEOPLE) (39:31)  Unburden Yourselves Segment (46:43)  Real Housewives of Miami Recap (58:24)  Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Recap (1:17:08)  Euphoria Recap (1:26:24) The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Monday. Hey, Claude, how are you doing? It's not only Monday. It is happy last Monday before Jackie goes on her maternity leave. So I think the better question is, Jackie, how are you doing? Thank you for asking. I know as I said it, I was going to say like this is my last happy Monday for a while, but I just feel like that's too sad for everyone I didn't want to remind everyone but it's true this is my last Monday on the show for a while and I'm doing good I mean I'm more out of breath than ever so just bear with bear with me did you listen to my story the other day when I was talking about how I get so out of breath on podcasts because I watch your stories with sound because I respect you thank you. Well, you've been doing closed captioning because you respect me and I appreciate that. Yes. But if you listen to the most recent episode of the Redheads where I really like host and I talk a lot. Yeah. At one point, it sounds like I'm about to break down and start crying.

Like everyone else was just like waiting for me to stop. And we all started laughing so hard. I was so out of breath. And they were like, how does that not happen to you on the toast and I was like Claudia never lets me speak for this long and that's why like what I do is so important you know no I didn't even realize how much oxygen you're saving me by cutting me off see that's the thing like I care so much about the health and wellness of you and your child that I won't let you speak because I know it's not good for you, you know? Yeah, no, you're such a giver. Thank you so much.

You know what? Not to cut you off. I actually, like, people always say, like, Claudia never lets Jackie talk. Yeah, I know. And if it was something I could control, like, I swear to God I would stop. It's no disrespect to you at all. But I did listen to another podcast. I won't say what it was. I listened to another podcast this weekend with two hosts.

And my God, one of them did not shut the fuck up. And I was like, let this other person get a word in. And I'm like, oh my God, is this how people feel listening to our show? I wonder. And I'm so curious to know what podcast you listen to. I'll tell you after. Just the one that was talking like is like just kind of annoying. And like that's literally me. Like I am really concerned now that I'm giving off the same energy

and to everyone who's ever had to listen to an episode of this podcast like I do apologize. But you know what I've realized? Okay two things. I'm going to say one first I listened to another podcast a while ago and one person was cutting off the other person. I was like well what was the other person going to say? Can you shut up? But sometimes you cut me off when like I wasn't going to say anything much more impactful. So I'm saving you. So you're kind of like saving me and making it look like you're leaving them wanting more. But I had nothing to say. No, if anything, like I'm the villain of this podcast and I'm only helping your like Q ratings go up.

Thank you so much. That's what I, that's why I do what I do. Honestly. You're such a giver. We so appreciate it. I want to hear how your weekend was at the farm. We're so glad to see you back home that you decided that you would go back

home. I know it pains you. Like it did because if it wasn't like a Sunday, there would have been nothing telling me to come back home but we do have a really busy week this week and I and I'm also going back out on tour this weekend so I just wanted to um like reset at home even though I do miss the farm life but I did have such a great weekend I went out in Philly because Brian really lives like equally between Philly and New York City so we decided to go out in Philly and I had so much fun. Like Philly is lit. I went all over. We went to this place Fabrica, which is like dinner theater.

So you eat, the food was actually poisonous, but like it didn't matter because they put on such a great show. They had like aerial dancers, drag queens, comedians. Like it was just like a really cool concept for a restaurant. Like there's, I don't think there's anything like that in New York. There was burlesque. It was very, very cool. We had a lot of fun. like a really cool concept for for a restaurant like there's I don't think there's anything like that in New York there was burlesque it was very very cool we had a lot of fun that's really cool I feel like there's a lot of that in like um where did I see it where was I like in um in Europe like in Saint-Tropez and stuff like that's what they do like those dinner shows um and they're really amazing and I feel like no one's been able to do like a good job of replicating it here necessarily,

but it sounds like that's exactly what you experienced. And like the restaurant was beautiful. We sat down and it was like, it feels like Ibiza. It was really, really, oh sorry, Ibiza. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ibiza. Ibiza. I think that's where it was. It was really, really cool.

Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's where it was. So that was really fun. And then we hit up a bunch of gay bars, which are just different than the gay bars in New York. Like they were just so complex and so different and they were like multi-level. So the one that we ended up at, Tavern on Comac, I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. The first floor,

it's like a piano bar, which you know I love. I did perform a song because it was like karaoke and I like, no one was living for it. Like they're like, get this girl out of here. Yeah, it was sad. So sad. And I have the whole thing on video and like I refuse to watch it or send it to anyone because I really thought I did something, but I was like blacked out and I was drinking Fireball and tequila, which I never do. Like I always stick with tequila. So I was just out of control. And my voice was just like not where it needed to be. So that video will never see the light of day. And there were a few toasters there. So if you guys heard that, no, you didn't. OK. OK. You know know what that's actually the perfect story um just to segue quickly into our first edition of unburdening yourselves today and i

feel like that's actually a really embarrassing um little anecdote that you just shared and i appreciate you unburdening yeah i'm unburdening myself in the spirit of the segment yes today is our first day we've collected we got so many emails you guys everyone unburdening themselves with embarrassing shit that they've done over the weekend so we'll be sharing that at the end of the show and thank you to everyone who submitted don't worry it is of course anonymous and if you want to submit it's not too late unburden yourselves at gmail.com great so then we went to the thing about philly is that like in city proper there are casinos so it's like really cool to go from like bar to bar to casino.

We don't have that sort of lifestyle in New York. And we spent the next four or five hours at the casino just being blacked out and diabolical. Then we went to Wawa. And then we fell asleep in the car ride home. And it was really a gorgeous night. Like really one of my best nights, for real. Did you win money or did you lose money? What do you think? I guess you would have

said we went to the casino and I won money if you had won no but the thing is were the losses were the losses staggering no so for me when I go to a casino it's not about winning it's about losing the least amount possible and I've definitely lost way more than I did on Saturday Friday night so I feel good about it. Okay. Okay. That's great. It could be worse.

And you had a good time. And sometimes that's the price you pay. Exactly. How was your weekend? I'm sure similar vibes. Similar vibes. Went to the casino. Brew and I went to a gay bar where Brew sang at the piano.

But he was a hit. That was the difference. Of course. Everyone was living for it. Of course. No, I had a productive weekend in the sense that I watched relevant television you guys not just Poldark which I finished and I'm so glad that it's over and that there's not a new season coming thank you goodbye good day sir thank you next thank you next and then I treated myself

finally to Real Housewives of Miami and it was such a treat oh my god I'm so finally to Real Housewives of Miami. And it was such a treat. Oh, my God. I'm so excited to talk about it. Like, here's the thing. I miss, I mean, first of all, the show is amazing. And it's on another level than the other shows, than the crapola that we're watching. Crapola. But two, like, I really miss, like, binge watching Housewives is what, like, why we

love Housewives so much. It's what life is about. If I was watching these episodes week to week, I don't know that I would say that they're so amazing. Because it's not like so much happened. But I was just able to like really enter the world. And it wasn't like so every week I'm into it and then it's over. So it was really enjoyable to binge watch it. Obviously that doesn't work for the other shows because we recap them here.

But it kind of like reignited my love for Housewives. Which I know all of you know has been lacking. And it just gives like OG vibes, like rich, amazing editing. It looks like Selling Sunset. Like it's gorgeous. It's really gorgeous. And I can't wait to recap it. I'm so excited to recap it.

I'm so glad that you watched too because we'll both share our thoughts even though we were like FaceTiming all weekend about it laughing so fucking hard. And then I thought I watched something else but it's not coming oh obviously I watched Salt Lake City um right and I started a new book last night that's like a silly rom-commy book that I like literally I read for 20 minutes and I'm like 30 percent in you know the feeling let me know if you like it because that definitely sounds like something I would be into okay so far so good it's called made in manhattan m-a-d-e oh okay because i was like copyright yeah um so yes tv recap we have real housewives of miami last night's euphoria was literally like a life-changing episode like i need to talk about it we'll do it in the tv recap

it was life-changing salt lake city um i watched theating Game and we don't need to put it in the TV recap like it was a cute movie like if you liked the book you'll like the movie it was exactly the same Lucy Hill was great it wasn't like you know a life-changing film that's gonna you know win Oscars but it's cute um and I started the new Colleen Hoover book amazing look at you content queen yeah the farm life is definitely for me. Yeah. Everyone's talking about last night's episode of Euphoria. So I look forward to breaking that down so I can understand like what shook the world so hard. Oh my God. It was quake worthy. You ever watch something? I used to feel this way when I was younger and watched a lot

of SVU. When it gets like scary, like your whole body is watching and you're like have such a pit and you have to remind yourself like multiple times like it's a TV show. These are not real characters. This is not something that actually happened. It was so pit inducing and Ben never watches, but he was like in bed watching with me last night and he was like, is every episode like this? I'm like, no, like this is special, unique. Oh my God.

Okay. That's a lot. It was a lot. Okay. Wow. And then also after Friday's episode wrapped, like all this stuff came out with Kim and Kanye. So we have a lot to recap in the Fast Five, in Unburden Yourselves, in the TV recap.

And I just think like we have to stop dilly dallying and get right to it. And get right into it. Literally right after we wrapped on Friday, we saw that Kim finally responded to Kanye. And I was like, we could have like hopped back on and recorded more. But I'm actually glad that we didn't because so much stuff has come out since that like it requires a whole Monday morning debrief. And that's what we're here to do. So without further ado, it is time for the Fast Five stories that you need to know before

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Kim Kardashian hit back at Kanye West's hurtful comments about North's TikTok. So as discussed last week, Kanye took to Instagram to talk about the fact that he does not want his eight-year-old daughter on TikTok. And who does he need to reach out to or speak to to make sure that this doesn't happen. Then in a surprising twist of events kim responded on instagram stories and she really hasn't been responding to a lot of his outcries so this was major she said kanye's constant attacks on me in interviews and on social media is actually more hurtful than any tiktok north might create as the parent who is the main provider and caregiver for our children i am doing my best to protect our daughter while also allowing her to express her creativity in the medium that she wishes with adult supervision

because it brings her happiness. Divorce is difficult enough on our children and Kanye's obsession with trying to control and manipulate our situation so negatively and publicly is only causing further pain for all. From the beginning, I have wanted nothing but a healthy and supportive co-parenting relationship because it's what's best for our children and it makes me sad that Kanye continues to make it impossible every step of the way. She said she wants to handle all matters privately regarding the children and hopefully he can finally respond to the third attorney he has had in the last year to solve any issues amicably. So not only was this in my opinion perfect statement, it was also a groundbreaking moment because ever since the divorce, Kim ups, downs, highs, lows, Kanye saying things, she has never once responded.

I do believe the only other time before they got divorced, she released a statement when he was on his Twitter rant, just being like, you know, dealing with someone who suffers from a mental illness is really difficult. And we asked for privacy at this time so this is like groundbreaking because I think her intention was to never handle anything publicly co-parent for the kids remain you know um honorable and and all that but he pushed her so hard and and I think the implication that Kim is doing something that's not in the best interest of their children is like what really set her off because she's such a good mom. And I think wherever you land on like should kids be on social media, it doesn't matter. It's like an issue that should be handled privately between the mom and the dad. Like I don't care what your opinion is, what my opinion is. Like it's not our child. Like it

doesn't matter. Right. And this is not the way to go about it even if your message is totally, you know, justified and on point. Yeah. Him not wanting North on social media is a reasonable thing that he should ask him privately. Yes.ye has been posting all weekend he has since deleted all of his posts but there have been some um you know bombshell ones he posted a screenshot of her statement and said what do you mean by main provider america so you try to kidnap my daughter on her birthday by not providing the address you put security on me inside of the house to play with my son then accused me of stealing i had to take a drug test after chicago's party because you accused me of being on drugs tracy romulus stopped manipulating kim to be this way so this also harks back to remember a few weeks ago when he was talking

about like kim's publicist and how she has these people around her that he's like not here for and we tried to like explain away that it wasn't Tracy. And then it's probably some rogue publicist who she hired a third party. But it's Tracy. Yeah. And the thing is, is, you know, this is obviously very reminiscent of Kanye's posts ever on social media with you know him struggling with with some of the stuff that he goes through so I don't know I do feel weird like living for this like oh look Steph Chef's husband was the one who gave Kanye Kim's number like I and I see people like commenting on it being like oh my god crazy

it makes me very sad it really does and I hope that for what I my perception of this whole thing for what I believe to be going down like I just hope everyone can find peace because this isn't like fun drama or gossip it's like no it's sad it's sad uh it's very sad I do feel for Kim I'm sure this is an incredibly like frustrating situation for her and I think also for Kanye also I just wanted to clear up because I think last week when we were assuming that Kanye didn't want North on TikTok it was like because of like being in the public eye and he was like well he we were like well he put her on stage at his show and blah blah blah but um I think it's more to do with and something else that we spoke about last week unrelated with like the damaging effects on of social media like on children and

especially young girls which is like a different conversation I do think that like TikTok contributes a lot to it so I think while you know his message um for a lot of people is extremely valid fair the delivery is piss poor as bad as it gets and it's just not on us to have an opinion on how they parent their children and so him putting it in the public discourse it makes everyone think that they have an opinion that people give a shit about I don't care what your philosophy on social media is for your kids I will handle it my way you handle it your way and Kim and Kanye can handle it how they see fit so I just I just feel like this whole story gives me a pit and it just makes me feel you know reminiscent of other times where he's been acting out on social media and what

implications that has on his mental health. Yeah, no, it definitely gives me a pit. And as someone who was like, you know, my ship was leveled because I thought that they were in a good spot and co-parenting well and everyone was doing like what was best and happiest for them. This is like a sad for the Kimye stans who were still holding on. Not to the hope of a romantic relationship but just to like this family unit like this is really not good you know it's not and I think when we all like gossip about it and post about it we should just keep that in mind you know like this is someone's family it's someone's mental health and it's not like fun gossip it's it's sad agreed. But we have some happy Kardashian news, which is that Kylie Jenner has welcomed a baby boy with Travis Scott.

She posted last night on Instagram a photo, black and white photo, of baby's hand, and I'm assuming Stormi's hand, with a blue heart saying 2-2-22. And that's all we've got for sure. And Kris posted that she has a grandson so we know it's a boy plus it was a blue heart and now it's time for name speculation and the there's a lot of of like strong guesses coming through yeah so i would like to throw my weight behind this one particular theory that i saw on tiktok i do not claim that i invented this i did not people on tiktok are saying it because a lot of the emojis and like the things coming out of the baby shower were like heavy use of the word angel now I don't think that the baby's name is angel but now a lot of people on TikTok are you know coming up with

angel-like names heaven halo so I'm thinking something in the angelic realm okay that's a good guess the names that are coming out also I I saw last week that people think it's Valentine. No, I don't think so. I don't think it's that either. That's like a name from Poldark, so maybe she was also watching. And that could have inspired her. But there was one name that's like sort of making the rounds, but it's not as strong, I guess, as the others, which is Sunny. And I think that could be it

because it would go really well with stormy yeah but remember when Kim had north and then we thought like the next one would be like east yeah but it's not I don't it's not like stormy and rainy like it's first of all it's her son and it's sunny and then it also like they they go nicely I think it's a possibility I I think it's a possibility but I'm not convinced like and you go nicely I think it's a possibility I think it's a possibility but I'm not convinced like and you know what I think what Kylie comes with is going to be something no one has thought of because that's so Kylie and you know what else is so Kylie like she's just so effortlessly naturally cool like of course her child would be born 2-2-22 which is like a date I'm sure a million people tried to get married on it's like a cool day yeah yeah and it's the day after stormy's

birthday which is just crazy but it's such a crazy coincidence also courtney had mason and rain on the same day five years apart oh that's cute isn't that interesting yeah i mean when do you think we're gonna find out the name? The odds are 1 in 365. Ooh. 366 on the leap year. When do you think we're going to find out the name? I don't know. I'm ready for it, though, Kylie. Please.

Like, we need this. It's killing me. Yeah, like, we need something to live for. Like, please. Yeah. No, when I saw last night, even though she, like, announced that she gave birth, like, it was just so exciting. And even though, like, we all knew she was giving birth any day now still so shocking

you know what's so interesting about kylie too when you compare her two pregnancies is like the first time around she was like really not newly famous but it was like coming off the heels of this crazy success she was like the you know the first self-made billionaire youngest whatever and she was like you know they had the vlog and it was this whole thing. And now she's just so chill because like I think she's in a really good place. And she's like, yeah, we had a baby. No big ta-da. Just yeah, we had a baby.

Yeah, maybe there'll be a big ta-da though with the name. Like obviously there has to be more content coming. I just, and I'm sure she's extremely busy. But if she could just get it on that name thing for us, that would be really, really good. Right. And she's just so chill. Like she had the baby on the 2nd and she told us on the 6th. And I'm sure she had to be in the hospital for a few days.

She's just like being a cool girl. Yeah. She's not like other girls. No. No, she is not. No. So very exciting. I'm really curious to know what the name is.

And I don't think anybody has guessed it i don't think it's angel and i don't think it's heaven and halo or anything like that but i i understand why people do you know what else i saw so she posted like a bunch of the flowers that she got and i was i like screenshotted zoomed in and read the card me too and it was from kim north saint it was from the kardashian west crew and I thought it was kind of isn't like a really formal weird thing to do like for your sister like go to her house and say congrats yeah I guess I thought imagine if I sent you flowers like well first of all I thought the card was like so formal and then second of all I was like am I can I expect flowers for my sisters

that would be so nice to have all these flowers in my house if you want like I can arrange that but i wasn't planning on it like i think it would be nice that's something like that's something your accountant does yeah i know but they they send each other flowers for everything and it's not just like flowers it's a whole thing but you know what it also they love flowers it would be nice but flowers are a lot of maintenance like when you're just you know a regular person and you're keeping them in your house and they're not, like, forever roses from Jeff Heatham. So I don't know if, like, I'm already having to keep, like, all these things going on. I don't know if I can deal with flowers. No, I know.

It's, like, a full-time job being a florist, a botanist, if you will. It's a full-time job having, like, plants and flowers in your house, yes. 100%. And then they, like, get smelly if you forget to water them for one day depending on how cheap they are like it's just like it's and then the petals fall over the floor and like theo eats them and then i have to sweep them up like it sucks the smell is deadly but it is the smell of death like the flowers have died i'll never i'll never forget the first time i smelled like a truly dead flower because i didn't know i thought like okay flowers

wilt and maybe they lose their delicious smell but they don't you know turn to poison decay yeah yeah and so I was shook I'm like what the fuck is that smell in my house and I'm sniffing all over and I'm like the flowers it was just like the most mind-boggling thing to me that is funny I don't think that the Kardashian flowers go bad like that speaking of decay I did finish that um documentary taken at birth um and I just want to say I did recommend it but at the end I realized they like gaslit us the whole time they had all these theories and uh none of them turned out to be true and I was just like why did we watch a six hour documentary like we got we got like nothing.

Interesting. I tried to start this Tinder swindler because you made it sound really good. And I just I couldn't get I couldn't get into it. OK, it's not for everyone. But I watched there's an American Greed episode about Elizabeth Holmes. You should watch it because it's one hour and it'll explain to you the situation. And the only thing that I took away from it from the half hour that I watched, which I thought you might find interesting,

is that her fans who just think she's a girl boss who's being mistreated, they're called the homies. Ooh, I'm such a homie. I'm going to add that to my Instagram bio. Hashtag homie. Swifty, homie, and levotic. Perfect. I thought you might like that.

I thought it was cute. Also, this doesn't really need to go in the TV recap, but I did watch the most bizarre documentary series. It's like a National Geographic series called Locked Up Abroad. And they have people come. It's an hour-long episode and they tell the story of the time

that they were put in jail abroad. And then they also have actors dramatize it while the person who actually went through it narrates. And it is the most craziest thing. were put in jail abroad and then they also have like actors like dramatize it while like the person who actually went through it narrates and it is the most craziest thing it was on hulu and i just want to say if anyone listening to this podcast has ever thought like you know what i'll do it one time i'll make five thousand dollars let me smuggle drugs from peru do not do it and the first rule of smuggling drugs is not on your body not on your body everyone knows that okay just do not do it where do you do it then so a lot of people have the drugs like metastasized to like different i don't know if that's the right word but like different substances and then they

line the bottom of their suitcase with it and it can go through security totally fine unless you know you get pulled aside special you know but some dumb people like duct tape it to their body and then they put on like huge sweatshirts and so they're walking through the the airport like with enormous sweatshirts and sweatpants on like two two girls two young girls wearing huge hoodies and huge sweatpants oh that's not obvious don't that's what people wear these days no like you should have seen the dramatization they looked so stupid like I would have arrested them in a second interesting okay it's a really good show oh you would recommend it yes especially the one um about the woman who has a daughter and she smuggles drugs in I want to say Ecuador and she ends up in Ecuadorian prison for five years falls in love

and gets married in prison, has a baby. And then like right when she finds out she's pregnant, her appeal goes through and she has to go back to the States and leave her husband slash baby daddy in the prison. Sounds like a Hallmark movie. So good. Sounds like a Lifetime movie. 100%. 100%.

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safety of our pets. And I trust Fuzzy, and so should you. Trust and believe. Trust and believe. Our next story, a fellow pet lover. Queen Elizabeth is shocking the world as she backs Camilla as queen consort in a new statement. So first of all, it's the queen's platinum jubilee 70 year anniversary of her on the throne. So there's just like a lot of celebration, a lot of queen news.

Is she the longest reigning monarch? She is the longest reigning monarch, which is very exciting. She put out a letter, the majority of which thanks her subjects and remarks on the progress made during her reign. But near the end, she dropped what many consider to be a bomb. She said, quote, I remain eternally grateful for and humbled by the loyalty and affection you continue to give me. And when in the fullness of my time my son Charles becomes king I know you will give him and his wife Camilla the same support that you have given me and it is no I don't think so I don't think that I will and it is my sincere wish that when the

time comes Camilla will be known as queen consort as she continues her own loyal service so this was a big deal because even though it's like impossible a lot of people are fully like convinced that she will have you know Charles abdicate because he sucks and is hated by everyone and William who comes next is like so beloved by the nation and it seems like a no brainer but I guess that's not how it works and she's now fully confirmed that like Charles is gonna be king well most people were I mean for me that was the surprising part that like she is telling us like she's not skipping Charles. Like I literally, I really believed in my soul that she would find a way to skip him, that she knows that like he's not it and that the future, like if you want to, the monarchy

is, it's already like, it's always in peril. And if like we need a fresh start and we need to modernize and like nobody's here for Charles, we can all agree on that. So I just thought that perhaps there was a chance so that's what's most shocking to me and she's like no Charles is next in line like don't get it twisted and most people are extremely shocked that Camilla will be known as queen but I mean if he is going to be king then yeah she would be his queen that doesn't shock me as much well like that's the whole part I actually don't understand. Like, how Philip was a prince.

Okay, I finally understand it. Okay. Because a king outranks a queen every time. So if Philip were to become king, then he would outrank his wife, who is the monarch. And that's just not going to happen. Got it. Okay, okay. So he had to remain a prince so that she could be the number one girl in this group.

So basically, the person who married in is only going to get the king or queen title if it's a woman. Yeah. That rocks. Yeah. Finally, women succeeding in front of men. Yes. So that's why Camilla could be queen. And it's not like she's an actual queen like Queenie.

Because she's a king. She's just like not a queen. I can't explain it. Like she doesn't give off Queenie vibes whatsoever. And I just like I see Kate as a queen. Like I do. I think the nation loves her. I don't see Camilla as a queen.

Now I think that if Camilla and Charles were to mysteriously disappear this might be Queenie covering her tracks being like no he was supposed to be king. Oh interesting. As if like this is her intention. I'm still holding on to hope i'm holding on to hope too and as far as camilla like people really are anti-camilla hate i personally i don't hate i don't feel strongly one way or the other and what like just saddens me is like when you watch the crown or you know the story of like charles and camilla

and like they should have gotten married first and they didn't just because she wasn't a virgin so like they brought Diana into it they ruined so many people's lives and like marriages and happinesses because she wasn't a virgin and like but but other than that like she was a completely like suitable choice or she was like a little bit older than him too right she's a little like I guess you know uh wild why right but like in hindsight if you just let these two get married they're clearly otp they love each other so much even in their fucking 70s yeah it would have been a completely different story no they would have loved loved loved camilla like they would have gotten past it would have taken a little time to get past like

oh she's had sex with a man like they would have gotten over it and then they would have just like come to love. And their love is real. Like it is. It's not one of these arranged marriages. So people would have loved it. And you're right. It's like, what's that phrase?

You know, pennies and nickels, you know, like save a penny. Like when you do something in the short term and like you're not thinking long term. Yeah, it's definitely pennies and's the phrase um a penny short dollar no no it's like save a penny spend a dollar i don't know save a penny ride a cowboy i keep thinking save a horse ride a cowboy also no what is the phrase a day late a dollar short oh maybe i'm misthinking misrepresenting cutting off your nose to spite your face kind of okay maybe they're whatever but just let me know in the comments what phrase what phrase you think applies i think pennies and nickels there is a phrase here there's always a phrase here do you not agree for sure no this is like quintessence this is quintessential phrase

dumb yeah no there's lessons to be learned here. And I feel like even in watching Poldark, it's always this way. It's like, just let the people marry who they wanted to marry because you're going to get into a big mess otherwise. Drama. Yeah. So those are my thoughts on that. But then also you could say like, if it didn't go this way, then we wouldn't have William

and Harry and et cetera, et cetera. That's true. Yeah whatever that's the latest with the royals queen camilla is apparently allegedly on the horizon i'll believe it when i see it which is less shocking than king charles cavalier spaniel yeah you know maybe I could get behind it after all, King Charles. Only if they, like, you know how every, the queen has like a breed of dog she's obsessed with. If King Charles doesn't have King Charles's, then I'm officially done with this family. No, as if I couldn't hate him more. I agree. If he doesn't have King Charles's, good day, sir. Good day, sir.

Goodbye. Okay, that seems like a fair litmus test yeah yeah are you for ready for our next story two of your favorite people actually this story has every element of a story for you really yes okay andy cohen received the hollywood walk of fame star he was honored by john mayer and the woman who came up to the stage fell presented to him fell okay i thought there were so many interesting things about this um ceremony one i was surprised andy didn't have a a star already but he totally deserves it two i thought that housewives who were chosen to be there were interesting i only saw garcelle and lisa rinna

which i just found to be just interesting maybe Maybe it's because they both live in L.A. and were available. Yeah, perhaps. And I just loved that John Mayer was there. And I have to say, in Real Housewives of Miami, I despise Nicole. And when she said her hall pass would be John Mayer, that was like the only time I related to her in like the smallest sense. John Mayer's speech was hilarious, you know, riddled with housewives analogies. He's obviously really into housewives.

I just want to say Nicole definitely said that John Mayer thing because she knows like Andy and John and like John might see that. Like she's a thirst monster, 100%. But I'll talk about that in the TV recap. I have a question. Do you really think John watches real housewives like that or he had a ghostwriter?

I think he dabbles. I do. I don't think he keeps up like we do. No, but he made that like we do no but i but he obviously he made that like lisa barlow heather gay joke which is like extremely recent um niche so then he must keep up but when he goes on watch what happens like does he play housewives trivia i never i never thought about it i just thought he was andy's friend i didn't think he was a housewives like super fan i feel like he he became a housewife super fan after the baby shower like i

think at first he was like oh this is what my friend andy does and then he had so much fun with the ladies and then like john mellencamp's daughter was there and i think he was like this is just my theory like i'm just hypothesizing i think that that was the catalyst for him to be like oh maybe i should get into this interesting i think that he had a ghostwriter who's obviously like not um watching salt lake city with the same set of eyes that we are and how like of all the friendships on Real Housewives period like the fact that you think Heather Gay is like the friend of all friends I find to be extremely mind-boggling extremely suspicious so I actually I didn't I didn't enjoy the content of his speech the woman presenting the star to Andy when she got up on stage, she missed a step and she completely ate shit. And she handled it with grace, kindness, and elegance. She acknowledged the fall.

I think she said like, who cares? My dress is from Old Navy. I think she said something like that. Like she made a funny joke. She handled it with elegance. And you know what? I respect her for it and not only do I respect her I sympathize with her so wholeheartedly I think she wrote into

unburdening yourself today to share her story so well then we're gonna help her through that yeah no she she did um sail past it quite elegantly but of course it made as elegant as one could it made everyone think of you yeah which i'm not like super pleased about i can't lie you've been burning yourself a little people associate with me yeah no i've been a little too honest with you guys i agree you gotta play it closer to the chest to the vest or to the chest vest vest okay do you think like the the timing in which they decide to give people stars on on the walk of fame like makes no sense yeah when i saw the first picture of him getting his star i just assumed it was like a throwback picture like what was the second what like what i don't understand it's such a weird thing and everyone like so weird

gets it like not at the i mean i guess you have to be like extremely established for a long time to be like that iconic to be on the walk not like as you're ascending or even when you're at the like you need time spent at the top so by the time you do get it it's like well duh how did you not have one before yeah that's true but every time i see someone getting their star, I'm like, they just got it. Yeah. Yeah. Shook. Are you ready for a fifth and final story?

It's another Claudia's choice for sure. Oh, yeah, I'm ready. NYU launches a new course about Taylor Swift for the 2022 spring semester. New York University's Clive Davis Institute has officially launched a brand new course on Taylor Swift

for its spring semester variety reports. Quote, this course proposes to deconstruct both the appeal and aversions to Taylor Swift through close readings

of her music and public discourse as it relates to her own growth as an artist and a celebrity. The course description reads. What are your thoughts?

So I just want to say, okay, like obviously NYU does something like cool 10 years after I graduated and I had to sit through the Loserville population, us at NYU. People at NYU are like so averse to like mainstream things. Like if you're not wearing a beanie and like drinking an iced chai with, you know,

non-GMO milk, like they're not interested in you. So I have a feeling, I could see nobody signing up for this class, first of all. Second of all, it's in the Clyde Davis Music School, which is, like, a really, really small program. It's where Maggie Rogers was discovered. It's extremely prestigious. So it's not really, like, anyone can sign up for this class. If you've been through, like, the class sign-ups, you know how crazy it is. So this is going to, no one, no one no one who like is a Taylor Swift like

mega fan who just goes to like regular like the liberal arts program is gonna be able oh sorry is gonna be able to get into this program and I just want to say reading the course description it really should be in like the psychology major because it's not like they're talking about her music or like her lyrics they're like, the aversion and the obsession. It's really like a psychology course. I guess so. Okay. You explaining that it's part of Clive Davis, like that it's this small school full of like music experts.

And I'm sure there are other classes similar to this about other artists. But because like it's Taylor Swift and it's new, like it's making news. It made news. But before you just shared that, like I just thought this was extremely uh moronic it's like just go on tumblr like what it's like it's so silly like fifty five thousand dollars a year to learn about taylor swift what from a professor who doesn't know her like doesn't know more about her than anyone else can seek out this is the ruse and the manipulation that is college education the most useless waste of money a hundred percent like imagine sending your kid working so hard your whole life sending your kid to get a great education at NYU and they come home

and they're doing Taylor Swift homework no discredit to Taylor Swift but it's just so like it's it's so college like it's so dumb it's so dumb like and this is not me saying anything bad about Taylor Swift I agree not even close but like where are the useful skills like you could spend like you could spend your whole day on like tumblr instagram like going through Taylor Swift's like concert dvds and and that's and get the course and you could write a thesis. But where are we teaching the children? Teach them something.

It makes sense because it's in the music program. Yes. So yes, I agree with you. But I just think overall, what does this say about college? I just think college is so dumb. I can't. Getting dumber by the day. I'm super grateful for like the opportunity to have had a higher education. And everyone who went to college is very, very like lucky and blessed.

But I just think in the real world, like there's nothing really that you learn at college that you can't learn. Like just being a human being out working, meeting. Like there's really no tangible, in my opinion, unless you're going to like law school, med school. Don't come for me because I respect higher education. I do. I just think that like I really can't pinpoint something I learned in college that helped me in the real world. I'm being dead serious. Yeah.

I have a few different thoughts on this. And I agree with you. If you're in a specialized field, yes, it is extremely critical that you go to college. You're going to become a nutritionist. Yes. A doctor, scientist scientist bioengineer like we're not talking about we're not talking about you um no but you're talking about like the broader liberal arts education where you can take a class like taylor swift's rise and what it means for society yeah yeah nonsense i think a lot of what is learned in

college is nonsense but I do think the the practice of like going to college like you you are a teenager when you arrive and it's like it's kind of like this buffer where by the time you emerge like you're able to be on your own like at college you're on your own but you're not really there all of these like things in place like you know you're living by yourself but it's like a dorm and there you're going to get your own food but it's a meal plan and it's like halfway to adulthood and I think it's a great transition trend for people to transition and I think also for a lot of people like working especially in a lot of like books that I've read like especially non-fiction books like working to get to college can completely

free you from whatever circumstances you were born into and and the world then becomes your oyster like think of the show made right like the opportunities you get well that's just like a fucked up part of society that's a fucked up part of society a hundred percent but like you can have gone to college and not gone to college and one doesn't make you smarter than the other so i'm talking about like the emphasis we put on having a college degree in order to get good jobs like and i'm not saying doctors, of course, doctors need to go to school, like please stay. But just like the emphasis we put on college and also the way it's like not equally available to everyone. It's just we're setting everyone up for failure.

Right. I completely agree. And then you also get into the conversation of like, you know, elite institutions and like the college admissions scandal. Corruption. There's thousands of colleges in the country, yet everybody's fighting and clamoring to get into these few where, by the way, you can learn about Taylor Swift there. It's just it's silliness. And I agree with like the the structure itself and the fact that, you know, there's only so much you can do if you don't go to college. That system is like setting people up for failure people who don't have access to higher education yes but but also the system like it it has afforded a lot of people like opportunities tickets out yeah but it's like why can't you get that ticket

otherwise yeah no I just think the emphasis society puts on college is so stupid like because you can really do anything and it doesn't matter if you have a college degree or not depends on what you're doing yes yeah yeah was that a hot take i'm sure yeah but we've said that before yeah and i'm not saying i disrespect higher education academia the scholars i don't i respect you what you do is empowering and important i just think like the system in which we like discredit people who don't have college degrees when in the end like I'm not that much more different because I went to college. Right when a lot of college degrees some college degrees are worthless. Agreed. Mine.

Well those are the fast five. You absolutely needed to to know them we have so much more to discuss um but those were the fast five stories and next what are we doing next claude what's program have in store for us well so you i think we should do unburden yourselves because in case anyone didn't watch euphoria we will put all the tv recap at the end of the show and we'll just quickly unburden ourselves great okay that sounds like That sounds like a plan. Okay. This first one is so funny. Okay. Ready? Hello, Jackie and Claudia. I'm so happy to hear about this new segment you're doing because while the subject of this burden is small, the embarrassment around it is certainly anything but. I'm in a group chat with two of my coworkers who are a few years older than me. They're both

married, 30-something men. While we've become great friends through work who hang out fairly often, there still is this unspoken boundary between the three of us considering my relationship with them is rooted in work. The two of them were discussing something in the group chat that I didn't understand. I sent them a screen recording of me Googling the topic to show how clueless I was to it. While I was trying to make a joke around their topic of discussion, I ended up being an even bigger one.

At the top of the video, when I was searching in Google, all my previous Google searches populated briefly while I was typing out what I had intended. Since I was recording the video and the dropdown was quick, I didn't even realize you could see it. After sending the video, one of the guys responded, are we going to discuss why is my poo small rocks? Which unfortunately, which was one of my Google searches, along with a lengthy list of other mortifying other searches. She sent me a screenshot. I had been caught red-handed that I couldn't even deny it or come up with a decent lie. They send me ads for Metamucil now, and on my desk, they left a packet of Pop Rocks, but taped a small over the top of the title so she sent me a

screenshot here are her other google search ferragamo loafers okay tau chicago free people waco mini series obviously she was watching the toast reindeer boob why is my poo small rocks mini credit card okay everything is fine what's a reindeer boob but um why is my she wanted to see what it so this isn't an advice segment but if you were asking for our advice you obviously need to leave your job leave the state um maybe the country that is so embarrassing except i it could be worse because it could have been like why am i having raging diarrhea like at least like small rocks poop is like girly poop it's like you're so like you're so dainty and cute like you can't even make a poop because you're such a cute little girl so it's like if they i guess they knew already that you poop, technically. So it's like, and you have small rocks poop.

If they had to imagine you poop, at least they're not imagining you like sweating totally naked on the toilet, like crying, terrible pain, like screaming for help. Like Shawn Mendes. Yeah. Like now when they envision you, they're like, oh, she's so cute. She can't even make like a full poop. Screaming for help yeah like i always say like don't ever be nervous in front of anyone because like everyone has had moments where they are completely naked sweating like an animal crying screaming for help on the toilet like that happens to everyone even sean mendez so you know what at least the picture

they have of you pooping is not the Shawn Mendes picture. It's just, like, cute little, like, I don't even poop. Small rocks. I think this is great. I'm happy for you. Congratulations. And you know what? There could have been so much worse.

It could always be worse. When I think of everything I've ever Googled. You need to remember, it can always be worse. And here's the silver lining. At least it was small rocks poop. Not like big turd. Big sweaty Shawn Mendes girly. How to unbog toilet.

Oh, that's funny. Oh, my God. Yeah yeah like there's just so much are you okay i'm gonna pee my pants you're never gonna go into labor someone once said i'm gonna go into labor from laughing on the toes and this is on the podcast that could do it oh my but you know what we're giving sage advice like it's gonna be okay it's gonna be okay i feel i feel like if you've had a laugh about this then you can move on we i need to move on and you know what at least i need to move on or my water's gonna break well as expected like most. Well, as expected, like most of our submissions are about pooping.

I don't know why, but that seems to be the thing that most people have associated with shame. Hello, Jackson, Claude. How you doing? And us. First, I just wanted to say that I love you both so much. You ladies are truly the best part of my day. When I heard about this new segment, I knew I had to write in. Now for the unburdening.

I have a duty secret that gives me the biggest pit. It was last Friday when I was making my way back to school after a wonderful toasty winter break. Hold on, I need to, this font, it's like I need my glasses. I'm getting so old. Okay. It was last Friday when I was making my way back to school after a wonderful toasty winter break when my stomach started to rumble. I was already about halfway back to school, so I figured I would just make it through the last 45 minutes of the drive without having to stop, and in my favor, my stomach did settle down. Fast forward, and I'm about 10 minutes away from school, and my stomach starts to rumble again, but this time it's urgent. I'm on the main road into the school, but there are only farms, thanks again, central Pennsylvania, and there's no bathrooms in sight. At this point, I'm about to doody in my pants. So I do what I had to do.

And I pulled over, grabbed some antibacterial wipes, ran around to the side of the car and waited for some cars to pass, squatted and took a doody right there on the side of the road. Even just writing this to you is giving me the biggest pit, but I did what had to be done. And this will be the one secret that I take to my grave. Sincerely, a shameful duty toaster. I mean, lesson learned. Next time, stop while there's places to be stopped. At least, like, you did it.

It's done. It's farmland, so they'll just think it was an animal. Yeah. And they're used to seeing, like, you know, poops abound. And nobody saw you, it sounds like. So just make sure the right lessons are learned here. And then it's not a mistake if you learn something. And you know what?

You have actually inspired me to unburden something that I did this weekend. Oh my god, what did you do? It's really bad. I wasn't even going to bring it up because I think it's technically like a crime. Okay. Are you sure you want to bring it up? Yeah. We can always cut it out okay what the fuck did you do so we went to wawa on our way home and i had to pee so bad and they wouldn't

let me use the bathroom i was like screaming i'm like please so i get back to the uber i'm on the i'm on the the seat behind the driver and we pulled up on the right. So my door is in the road, not on the curb. And it was like four in the morning and it was like a main road, but it was mostly empty. So I just pulled my pants down. I leaned my back against the passenger door and I squatted like I was on a toilet and I just peed in the middle of the street. Oh, OK.

So yeah, technically like peeing in public is um a crime no but i actually think it well it depends where you are on the city yeah like in the city you can do it these days and yeah no i see people doing it all the time in the city and if i had to be subjected to like one more scary man whipping out his penis and peeing in a water bottle by a payphone i think that i'm entitled to relieve myself at four in the morning on an empty street when i'm in a lot of pain it was a medical emergency at this point. Got it. Okay, sounds like you took care of business All right, this next one is is harmless. I think honestly And it's the final one. Sorry. First off obsessed with the toast. You guys make my day every day now

Let the unburdening begin Last night I was out at a bar in new york city and I made the cardinal sin of leaving my jacket on the coat rack Because this place had no coat check when I was leaving my friends and I were grabbing our coats to go out into the tundra when I noticed that my expensive coat was of course the only one missing from the rack in true tipsy girl fashion I decided to remove all the coats from the rack and place them on the floor if they didn't resemble my missing jacket I was calling it process of elimination but the bouncer called it grounds for termination. I haven't been kicked out of a bar since I was 21 and I just felt the need to get this off my chest. P.S. It turns out a girl stole my coat and was hiding it under her table

while watching the whole debacle. It's a harsh world. Well, I hope that means that you got it back. And up until like knowing where it went, I would assume that someone had left with it. Like that's fucking infuriating, especially when you're drunk and you're at the end of the night and it's like your emotions are flared up due to alcohol and you're cold and you want to leave. It's really annoying to have your coat stolen, but I really hope that you got it back and that in some way this girl got hers. No, but there's like a lot of shame with being kicked out of a bar. I was kicked out of a bar like about a year ago and it was like one of the worst nights of my life.

Like it's so shameful. You just feel like a vagrant. Like and like what you're just being like a menace. You're usually you obviously can get kicked out of a bar for like starting fights. But like I feel like most of the time it's like you're just being like an asshole because you're drunk and you're like yelling at people. And it's like embarrassing. I got kicked out of a bar about a year ago for puffing a jewel

like they had a no jewel policy and like i didn't even get a second chance that's not embarrassing then it was no it was harmless and that's why i was like so i the problem was is that i got kicked out and i snuck back in and then the guy found me while i was waiting in line for the bathroom and he was like didn't i kick you out and i was like so wasted i was like do i know you i was like what are you talking about no i just got here that doesn't sound like a bar worth going to you can't have a fucking jewel it's a really fun bar i'm not gonna lie but i don't want to name it because i don't want to associate myself like as the girl who got kicked out of it you know got it got it and i love that bar and i just want to say if anyone who owns the bar who

knows what i'm talking about like i would love to come back please yeah and rethink your jewel policy yeah i mean like the worst things go down in a bar. 100%. So that was Unburden Yourselves. And you know what? It was a great kickoff to our new segment. If you want to shoot us an email, it's unburdenyourselves. It's plural because we couldn't get access to the other one. It's unburdenyourselves at gmail.com.

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just like not my um cup of tea necessarily I still am a Larsa San I like really just like her energy she just seems like a funny person to be around she's calm too yeah like very calm and just like smart and sure of herself and watching this like really made me sad that her and Kim are no longer friends and it's so funny because like so many of like her mannerisms are just the things that she says remind me of Kim and I could see how you know they got along at one point because they're both like have just that same energy of just calmness and a little bit of shade and I admit like I wish I hope that one day they can be friends again but I don't know what happened and I doubt we ever will and I don't think that there's any coming back from it for her. And I think she knows that. And so she took her talents to Miami.

To Miami. I also was really surprised to learn that her and Scottie Pippen are still technically married. I did not know that. I thought they'd been divorced for like 100 years. Yeah. And me too. I just assumed that they had divorced even before she was on Real Housewives Season 1. And I think that their life is so interesting.

And I mean, their kids are so cute. But the fact that they still even have like their childhood home and that like Larsa is living there, it's just like so, so crazy. The whole situation. Also her OnlyFans. It's one great storyline for Housewives. And that the fact that like everyone's like fighting. And it's interesting to see like the way that people treat it you can like learn a lot from them i thought alexia was

being like so awful about it judgmental first pool party and a lot of the other women were more open-minded and it's not as if like larsa like does it in secret or like didn't tell the other women and like someone found it like she's very open about it and um just like who cares who i mean who cares but like yeah that was a bad moment for alexia like really bad who fucking cares yeah and then like audriana like coming over and wanting to like sell feet pics for 200 and like literally pathetic it was giving the underpump rules feet for nose pics well i think we should talk about audriana because you know in the og seasons she was a top tier one of my favorites heavy hitter and now knowing that she's not even a housewife she's i guess she's considered a friend of because she's not holding an apple at the beginning she doesn't

have a tagline um but she's making such an effort like to get attention and be like crazy getting the tub with my titties out and knowing that she didn't even become a housewife it puts this like kind of sad spin on everything she does i'm like she obviously wanted to be back on the show so bad she's trying to make a moment out of everything and it didn't even work there's so much sadness surrounding everything that she's doing and like desperation and even like the the situation with the rooms which was like such a it was probably like peak rooms on a trip housewives situation yeah and it became this like big fight. And it's like the person who like got naked in the master suite took a bath and poured water.

And everyone like still can't get arrested. It was about Lisa. It's not even close to about. Yeah. Like it's about Lisa just for having an attitude when it's like literally nobody cares what Adriana does or says. And also even her relationship with Julian having like such disrespect like like for her marriage it just is so thirsty and weird and I also like I even when she like came for Gertie at the party and also when um they were party planning and Gertie and Julia were both opening up about their experiences like her reaction I thought to Gertie was like so cold

and it just everything she does with Julia like it's so weird everything she does is just like the wrong take it's just wrong and I agree and it's made even more sad by the fact that at one point like she was the alpha on the show yeah she's like overstayed her welcome I don't think she should have been a part of this um reboot but Julia I think is one of the most interesting women we've ever had on housewives first of all when she said her wife was martina i was shook like obviously i've heard of who that was like that's an actual famous person like it was just i wasn't expecting her to say that i'm like oh my god and i also wasn't expecting her to say she had a wife like she's just so dynamic and

so you know interesting she just is so different than any of the women I think we're used to seeing come on the show um I think and she lives on a farm like I think her life with Martina is so cool and different and I think she's such a cool girl like I could see myself wanting to be friends with her she seems really fun um and her being hung over and saying um she's sick she's not hung over is the most Ben Soffer thing on the planet like waking up after drinking like an animal being like oh man i have food poisoning no you had too much alcohol like i hate when people do that literally i'm glad the girls called her out on it also calling 911 for a hangover is insane like the way that they were all being morons about her hangover was infuriating

infuriating um but back to julia really quickly when she shared that story about um her son who was basically killed by their nurse i was i never heard a story so crazy in my whole life that's like something you see on svu like shaken baby syndrome it was so sad and so shocking and i tried to do a little bit of research and there's like you know theories that she was like with a Russian oligarch and they had the thing arranged like it's just so crazy and I just made me love her even more yeah no she has such an interesting personality story it's and all the women like really gravitate towards her which is just so funny because like they're all the women are like so similar and like into her, which is just so funny because, like, all the women are, like, so similar and, like, into the same things. And it's, like, at the end of the day, like, everyone just wants to be, like, loved by Julia.

But I think in general as it pertains to, like, the drama of the show, like, people aren't really here for her presence because she doesn't really add much. But I think when she's around, like, she lifts the spirits of the other women and makes everything a good time. But also, like, the way that she, like, enables Adriana and their friendship and their friendship and like the friend engagement was just it's a big fat no for me it's so weird I agree like she's an almost perfect housewife except like her obsession with Adriana is so bizarre and like Adriana bringing two dates to the art show like I don't know what Adriana thinks she's doing but it's not working someone has to tell her it's not working and also like aside from the fact that Adriana's behavior is cringy and everything she tries to do like just comes off like so not as how she intended like she put on this art show for this huge tennis like this is a huge opportunity I don't know what kind of other art shows she does

but like this is major the art is really sweet like Martina's like giving her this I loved the art and to even bring one date to that like where, where you have to, like, you're there to sell art. And to, like, schmooze. And not to bring two dates and, like, make it all about you. It's just, like, again, she just completely misses the mark every single time. Yeah. Also, I really want to talk about Alexia's family dynamic because I find it really interesting. I watched the OG show.

I remember when Frankie got in the accident. It was so sad sad and I'm so glad to see him doing so well he's such a sweet kid and every time he's on my screen he's just like saying cute things and I know Alexia loves him so much but the thing with her other son Peter's actually really crazy and while I think maybe Todd's was a little harsh I I kind of agreed with his sentiment. Like, and you were the one who just told me that, like, what did Todd say? He's like, you're going to end up in jail. Like, you're a loser. And you're going to end up in jail.

And last month. And you just told me. He was arrested for domestic violence against his girlfriend. He's a troubled kid. He's a bad kid. And Todd was, like, trying to warn. And I think Alexia is a very sweet woman. But he wasn't wrong in saying that she enables his behavior I mean even the mere fact that he gave his younger brother

pot is so insane yeah and and he had that episode and he doesn't even seem apologetic he's just mad that Todd yelled at him like he's like a spoiled kid and he's like 25 yeah no I totally agree I think people were like yeah sure Todd's message is on point but the delivery was awful I don't even think the delivery was awful because I don't think they would have heard him if he didn't speak in such harsh plain terms I think like all three of them really are used to being like so coddled but also sometimes like it does take an outsider to look at your situation and be like you're not handling it like and I'm sure Alexia has every well-meaning and i can't

even imagine what she's been through and so it's no fault of her of hers but humans are only equipped to handle so much and like i think that he's actually the perfect partner for her because he's not afraid like i think a lot of people would be afraid like i don't want to step into this i don't want to you know get i don't want you to resent me yeah I don't want to, you know, get, I don't want you to resent me. Yeah, I don't want, like, Alexia, they're supposed to get married. Like, this could ruin things for them. But, like, he's really more interested in actually seeing them doing better. That he's, like, willing to sacrifice how they see him for a second to let them know what they need to know. I thought it was one of the most compelling scenes in Housewives, like, of a personal scene that I've ever seen.

compelling scenes in Housewives like of a personal scene that I've ever seen and I was so glad that eventually they were able to hear what he was saying and not just be mad at the fact that and the way that he was saying it yeah yeah I didn't like when he said Frankie's not my son like yes he's not your son but like you're marrying like that's just not the sentiment you want to move forward with yeah that made me cringe and it made me cringe that a lot of the conversation was being had in front of Frankie um you were the one who told me like you read this conversation was actually two hours long and Frankie wasn't there for most of it but I think the fact that he was there for even some of it like was uncomfortable I it seems like he was there towards the end when there was like reconciliation happening I don't think he heard the worst of it even though they made it seem like he did okay um but i just love alexia and i think like

the way she talks about the herman stuff i mean and marisol said it too like i don't know if i would be as graceful and and lovely um like the way she just like really loved herman and like isn't even she probably was at one point but is now isn't even mad at the fact that he cheated and had this whole secret life she just like wants to know like he was happy in in that part of his life. And I just I don't know. I just I think she's like a really unique person. I really like her. I think she's sometimes she comes off badly with the other women because she's just like

she has so much going on. She can't deal with this moronic Nicole and Lisa behavior like I get it. But then it's like Marisol's like, you know, Alexia has so much going on. Yes. Yes. And then she's like her wedding got canceled. I'm like, wait, that's not so much going on. That's like wedding and then she's like her wedding got canceled i'm like wait that's not so much going on that's like you know surf i think sure it's stressful that's not the shit that's keeping alexia up at night right right so i didn't do a bad job i completely agree i was

like stop saying that it makes it sound stupid yeah um other housewives who are present uh nicole and lisa i loved Lisa then. I still really like her now. And I, I don't know why I thought her personality was like different than how it actually is. And she's very like chill and relaxed and like sure of herself. Yeah. But a little boring too, but I feel like she definitely turns up. Um, and I would have thought like she'd be more of like a people pleaser even with the

room stuff but the fact that like these are all like seriously glamorous established women and most of them are sharing rooms and it's fine and she's just like no i and i do understand like needing personal space especially on a group of course i say that every time we go on a group trip i'm like i don't care where we say i just want my own space and then I wind up in a room with uh four people um and I'm surprised no other housewife in general like puts their foot down about that but usually the women do get their own rooms and I also think like Lisa's just like not that friendly with anyone to be sharing a room with them except for except her friendship with Larsa I think is really like fun and when she like is asking Larsa if she can stay with her

and she's like shut down it's like fuck this Lisa's totally justified in wanting her own room I do think like I understand Larsa's frustration because first of all to find a house in the Hamptons that's nice and that fits and that has a pool and it's on the beach like it's the it is an impossible task and the fact that they found that house is a miracle so I understand Larsa being like enough but Lisa has every right to want her own room. But like the way she just like demanded it like a spoiled brat, like that's the problem. No one's questioning like you, like the reasoning. You're entitled to want your own space.

I totally get that. So why don't you just bow out, be like, honestly, like love you so much. Thank you for signing this up. But like I just would feel more comfortable at a hotel. Like I just don't think she, she just was like trying to start shit. Like she was being a bitch. I think it was, it was like a long travel day and she was grumpy. Yes.

I'm going to talk to that. And Nicole, I really don't like her. I liked her in the beginning. I think she came out a little strong with all of her like personal scenes. Like, I personally don't care. I don't know you. That's like just my rule. Like, I need to have you for at least two seasons before I care about your family like that's just me sorry

um and I do think some of the shit Marisol said I I actually believe Marisol a hundred percent because Nicole didn't even deny it she just like watered it down so I do believe that she said that shit and I feel like she was like let's just normalize like judging each other and yeah I guess but like I I'm a judgmental person but like I think some of the shit she was saying was like let's just normalize like judging each other and yeah I guess but like I I'm a judgmental person but like I think some of the shit she was saying was like really mean yeah I think that they're both both right sort of like first of all I agree that she probably said those things but it was also probably like before she even met Larsa like when if we were if you were in that situation it's like okay we're gonna be on the show with this cast of girls and here's this person and that person like we would talk privately

like about I mean it's different because we're sisters but like you would like you just say your snap judgments based on like what you expect people to be like but I also believe her when she says yeah I had these preconceived notions and I was wrong and I think that that's like kind of okay I I thought she handled it in a in it in a new way for Housewives as opposed to being like, I didn't say that. I didn't say it. Or like doubling down. She was like, no, I said that not as maliciously as you're saying that I said it. But also I was wrong and I really like you and I felt like that was kind of okay.

It was a different approach for sure. It was a different approach and I do feel like Marisol was really trying to start stuff. And it's also, like, what you think about someone before you meet them versus, like, three months later. Like, at what point is it irrelevant? Like, we're friends now. I said this before I ever knew who you were. Sure, that's a poor reflection on me that I would be so judgmental, but, like, that's just no longer the case, you know? So it's, like, either say that on day one. Like, either say it at the pool party like oh nicole you uh you now you met larsa do you still think

she's a hooker and you don't want to be associated with her but don't wait until two people become like actually friends to like bring up some old shit yeah but don't you think like i understand having like misconceptions about people preconceived notions um but don't you think like to go from you're a hooker i don't want to be associated with you to the extensiveness of the platform is kind of a big jump yes like come on yes but it could be all it could be like that she met larsa really liked her which i can understand because you know i'm a big larsa stan and also before i saw larsa and watch what happened Live last week and

if you just like asked me my thoughts on Larsa Pippen just like if you asked Nicole her thoughts on Larsa Pippen before they started filming together like I would have probably said like you know thirsty whatever but then like even just watching her on TV I was like oh no she's not those things so that is what like Nicole was saying it is kind of just human nature and sure it's better to like not share unsavory opinions about people but I'm sure they all were just talking about like who are the new girls in the group what's everyone been up to and Marisol just like booked what Nicole said and threw her under the bus I just really don't like Nicole like I was like living for that her getting called out I I do really like Gertie.

I think she's, like, one of the best-dressed housewives. Oh, my gosh. All the women are amazingly dressed. Gertie is a breath of fresh air. I know a lot. She gets on other girls' nerves, and it made me really sad when Adriana said, nobody here likes you, and only Martina stood up for her. I was like, oh, you know.

Yeah, that was sad. Someone else should have been like, I like you, unless they really don't. But, like, she's. Yeah, Julia, you're literally. She threw this party for like yeah julia you're literally she threw this party for you julia speak up she threw this party for you alexia she's your wedding planner and your friend like where was everyone else that just made me sad um but i love her energy i didn't even realize that yeah i was just thankful that martina said something because like what what a shitty feeling like to be told horrible and also just another poor reflection on audriana for even

saying nobody here likes you like what are you 12 literally i also think um her marriage is really a really sweet story like that they met in the 11th grade and i love that he's a firefighter obsessed they're so cute i'm so obsessed and i i really like i like her so much i don't know how other people feel and i i guess like some of the women don't know how other people feel and I guess like some of the women don't like her and she's a lot but I think she brings a lot to to the party that conversation personally resonated with me I think I'm more of a Gertie than an Adriana like I definitely am not everyone's cup of tea I'm like loud and annoying and so I hate when people are like can you calm down like that's just who I am fuck off like don't be my friend don't tell me to calm down like that's like saying don't be me yeah yeah so all in all i think

it's a great franchise i think it's really well done i think a lot of people are like let's get it on bravo like as if that's some sort of upgrade but i like it the way it is like i don't know if they've been releasing episodes episodically or weekly. Because I like having a bunch to watch. And you saw the preview for next week, for this week? Adriana talking about Kanye's dick? Yes. I mean, one, again, Adriana, the fucking woad. And I look forward to seeing Larsa put her swiftly in her place.

Yeah. Like, I cringe. I can't stand. Cannot stand Adriana. Cannot stand stand i'm glad we can agree on that like she is the villain um a hundred percent nobody even cares let's talk about like she's the villain you can't be the villain if nobody cares about you um i just i literally can't stand her also i just want to say like larson marie jewelry is so pretty i looked at the instagram last night we're just expensive i know but larson's always

wearing like such nice jewelry and like i like it's like dainty but also like it's like fine jewelry i just like really like the vibe don't be surprised if i show up in some larson marie jewelry no i agree it's very on trend i stand harder than ever just want to say um let's talk about the chaotic mess that was salt lake city last night where we wrapped up the trip in zion and lisa barlow absolutely lost her mind um i did enjoy like watching her be crazy just because she's so in my opinion up until this point has just been like so refined to the to the point where it's like almost calculated yep um her saying she was richer than all the women, like question mark, question mark, question mark. Even though that's not saying a lot, I think this group is running on fumes financially.

She was being so weird. I can't even recap this show because I don't understand who's mad at who for what. For real. I can't recap this show. For real. I can't recap this show. Whitney's performance that last night in the red dress, like, running around the house, like, saying, like, where's Mary Cosby to save Meredith?

And also, like, when Meredith literally. When she went to the kitchen to, like, bring up with Meredith again, like, to just keep banging her head against the wall, Meredith fucking puts her in her place swiftly to the point where like whitney just has to like walk away with her tail between her legs and then she comes upstairs and recounts what happened as if like she you know was the she won she was the victor i'm like girl and it wasn't until mary said you know it's really frustrating arguing with someone who's so drunk did i realize that she was that drunk because a few nights before a few episodes before no it was um that night that they were in aspen or vale and everyone was coming for mary they were dressed as like um october fest and mary left because she's like i'm

not arguing with drunk people they won't even remember what they said the next day and you could tell that everyone was really drunk and that mary wasn't so i was like okay that's fine i didn't even realize that at this junction whitney was so drunk again that Mary wasn't so I was like okay that's fine I didn't even realize that at this junction Whitney was so drunk again that's why she was making zero fucking sense and it was infuriating to watch for me one of the biggest moments of the episode was when Meredith flipped the tables on Whitney and was like what if I told you I didn't believe you that you haven't heard from your dad in months which is something obviously Whitney shared and Heather and Whitney being in the back of the car recapping that being like that's a low blow it's literally what you did it's actually it's not even as bad as what you did because we Meredith's dad passed away like what you and I

guess a lot of people are like Meredith why don't you just tell them when it was and I get that but to justify these morons these drunk morons with a response it's disrespectful I understand I know it's frustrating people are like well if it really just happened just like tell everyone what it was so we could like shut up about this no the fact that people are even asking is so outrageous and that's why Meredith won't justify it with an answer two things one not only did Whitney like could they not even see themselves Whitney misremembered what Meredith said Meredith said what if I said your dad you haven't not spoken to your dad in months and then in the car Whitney said Whitney said to Heather that Meredith said, what if I said that your dad's not an addict? So she didn't even know what they're fighting about because she doesn't remember.

Because she was so wasted. And two, as far as Meredith not just sharing the date, it's like even having to explain when the date was and take you guys through my calendar and my planner justifies this conversation. So not only am I not going to do that, but at what point do you trust me as a friend to know that I would not make up in a memorial? I mean, yes, if I were in her position, it's probably just easier to be like, here are the pictures on my phone. You can see where I was. You're a fucking morons but also like kind of just by leaving it open-ended it's like look at yourselves and what the fuck are you doing asking me about this literally like you don't deserve the peace of mind of like oh I get to ask about every single

personal thing in your life and you have to tell me when and where it was as opposed to just being like Meredith had a family thing and we're gonna leave it at that and why would we even question whether or not it happened when she said it happened and so then I don't understand Meredith's motives in inviting Whitney and Heather over like I do think Meredith is trying to find a way in which this all gets pinned on Lisa and Whitney and Heather are more than happy to throw Lisa under the bus but it wasn't just Lisa it was Whitney and Heather more so than it was Lisa. Yeah, I agree. Then she like comes and she apologizes immediately.

I think Meredith is, even though she's like above it and she disengages and she has no time for it, I think she enjoys being a housewife. And so like she comes home, she collects herself and she's like, okay, now I have to get back in the game. I think she gets really frustrated with on these trips and at these dinners and stuff but then when she has a moment to reflect she's like okay how do I get back into like Mary Cosby has no fucking interest in being a part of this and but Meredith I think after she has like some time to come to herself she's like okay shit now I gotta get back

to work who do I start with I just can't believe that we have spent hours and hours talking about Meredith Stad's burial and we have not spent more than five minutes talking about the egregious allegations against Jen Shah, the insurmountable proof that the FBI has that she was taking advantage of the elderly, the disabled, the old, the vulnerable, taking advantage of all these vulnerable groups, stealing money from them there is a a huge amount of evidence that the fbi has she's on trial she has to move out of her house to pay her legal bills and we as a group have not spoken about it for one fucking minute jen shah and that's why jen shah's staying out of it she doesn't want to put her ass she can't believe

no one's asking her questions how's sha's internal bleeding like sharif's internal bleeding mind-blowingly stupid how these women have fucked up and really like lost the plot and it's beyond me beyond and what's so crazy is on beverly hills like we gave the women so much shit for not holding Erica's feet to the fire when every single time they got together it was brought up even if they didn't you know say exactly what we wanted them to say or accuse Erica of this and that and mind you the crimes were committed by Erica's husband and even still the viewers were like it's not enough like even Sutton who was doing the most like still we were like she could have done more she didn't really

say that much meanwhile they couldn't they they couldn't get together at all without it coming back to erica and what she's going through meanwhile questions on there hasn't been one conversation between all of them about it and the one time that there even was which was at jenny's um party in the garden it all turned into like fighting over who's, no, and the fact that they're not being good enough friends to Jen. Like that was Meredith's take is like, you need friends right now

and your friends aren't being good enough friends. And then they all have to prove how they're such good friends to Jen. It is so fucking twisted. And the main difference between Erica and Jen is that these are Jen's crimes versus these are Tom's crimes. Alleged.

Right. It is insane to watch this season, like period, even without the Jen stuff going on. Just like watching them all point fingers at each other for like God knows what, honestly. Idiotic. Knowing that there's this huge thing that no one is going to talk about. And maybe it wouldn't feel like this season is so bad or these women were being so dumb if it weren't for jen's like if this was a regular season without jen's crimes it would be like a pretty good season everyone's being crazy and yelling at each other

pointing fingers but the fact that there's this enormous elephant in the room and i don't think we've spoken about it since she got arrested at beauty lab i mean we had a historic moment nypd homeland security showed up in utah on camera it made such waves when we read it happened we couldn't believe it and now we were waiting waiting it might as well have not happened after the fifth episode where she got arrested like goodbye i never heard from it again when they said next week on the season finale i can't even tell you this i cheered leaf oh my god I said woohoo and even after watching Real Housewives of Miami all weekend it's like take for example the conversation that was had at the table in

Montauk between Marisol Nicole and all the women and how they're fighting over you said this and I said that and like I'm able to follow that I thought maybe my brain was just scrambled that I can't follow housewives arguments anymore so to to watch that and be like, oh, yes, no, I understand what's going on. And then to watch Salt Lake City and be like, what the hell is going on? Like, even when I'm not on my phone, like I'm hunkered down, I'm paying attention, like I'm sober and I can't understand it. Make it make sense. And usually it's not you.

It's them. Usually I would say like, OK, there's something we're not getting. You know, maybe at the reunion we'll get more context it's not even that it said these women are like just so flimsy and they're also just they're just like not serious women sorry no it's they're they're horrible they're horrible so i'm very much looking and if andy doesn't get some fucking answers out of jen sh Shah in the reunion I might be done with this franchise for real it's not even good I can't believe what we thought we were gonna get versus what we got and the fact that people think that this is a great season like I can't understand

the low level you expect from Housewives because I don't know I grew up in the Bethany Frankel Jill Zarin age I just expect more sorry agreed and I might have felt like a little bit maybe it's me before watching Real Housewives of Miami like if I hadn't had that experience this weekend I would be like you know what it's just not for me like I've outgrown no no no it's not me it's that it's the producers it's the cast because it can be done still and it can be great and there's no reason there's they've dropped the ball completely this season and it's not me no it's not you um the last thing i watched that i want to talk about is euphoria last night was a monumental episode there was a lot of chatter

online like reporters being like this is the episode where zendaya wins her emmy it definitely was there was really nobody else in the episode basically they left us on a cliffhanger last week like she was like she was doing a lot of drugs and then like she was like at a church so it seemed like she overdosed. And it turns out she didn't overdose. She's in her house and her mom finds out that she's back on drugs and her mom wants to take her. She's going to withdrawal. Her mom wants to take her to the emergency room.

They get in the car and obviously her mom doesn't take her to the emergency room. She takes her back to rehab. And when Rue Zendaya realizes this, she hops out of the car and this leads her on like a 24-hour crazy ass journey where she's like looking for drugs, looking for things to sell because she owes the drug dealer money. She's trying to go to her friend's house, trying to get help from anywhere, stealing from her friend's mom's house. And she goes to the house where all of her friends are at and steals the mom's earrings. But the mom called Rue's mom and they staged another intervention where Rue blows up this huge secret that she's known for a while. She says, Cassie, how long have you been fucking Nate Jacobs? Nate Jacobs is Maddie's boyfriend.

So it was like, I swear to God, when Rue said that, like I screamed. And I was just not expecting like the idiotic high school drama to show up in this real drama this real life shit and the acting was just so good like maddie freaked out cassie starts crying and they're all this commotion starts that all the women are like shut up we're staging an intervention like it's not about you and your stupid boyfriend but the kids are just acting like animals that zendaya is able to escape oh my god so she's running around getting chased by the cops throwing up everywhere she's having crazy withdrawals she goes to her old drug dealer's house who's like her friend she tries to steal drugs from he has um his mom is like hospitalized

in his house and she is like he's like like a hospital in this bedroom she goes in and tries to steal like the mom's vicodin and stuff he throws her out she goes everywhere she can until she just goes to the woman she owes money to his house and this woman's like very weird we don't know her motives but she's basically like you need to give me the ten thousand dollars or i'll sell you to people like you couldn't even imagine so rue gets there and she's like going through crazy withdrawals and she's like please give me pills give me pills and the woman's like i only have morphine and i the only way to do it is intravenously i think that means with a needle and it was like oh i don't do needles so she gets so desperate she's like all right just give it to me so the woman gives her more

morphine obviously rue like gets knocked the fuck out and wakes up and like she's in this apartment and she's completely locked in the drug dealer and her husband are there there's like a man sleeping on the couch. There's guns everywhere. There's locks everywhere. So it's clear that this woman who said like, if you screw me over, like I will sell you to the worst people on the planet. It's clear that Rue owes her money. She's not going to get it. And she's going to sell Rue into some sort of like trafficking ring. And everyone's asleep and it is jackie the most hit worthy scene of her trying to break out of this house there's padlocks on all the doors she's trying to get the keys she sees the keys they're jiggling they're not working jiggle jiggle jiggle the man's sleeping on the couch she goes to the bedroom the man in the other room wakes up he gets up ruse opening the window she

has to jump from two stories her leg has been like broken this whole time because she keeps running her ankles definitely like sprained or something she jumps and then she's in the parking lot of this apartment complex and there's this big gate closing and she has to run run run she makes it out of the gate she like that scene i swear to god i've never had such a pain in my whole life because it's like if you get out where do you even go but if you stay you're gone forever you're sold into some something so she gets out and we're like go home rue your mom is looking for you she's trying to help you even though like when the she rue said the most horrible things to her mom like you know you're a terrible mother like you know because she was going through

withdrawals i don't think she really meant it so the final scene of the episode is rue's mom at the kitchen table she hears the door open she says rue is that you black screen so we don't know if it was real we don't know if it was that scary man from the apartment coming for rue's family because rue owes him ten thousand dollars it was fucking crazy and it was like not even like the good euphoria stuff that we love like you know the cool outfits the high school drama which we live for jacob lord he wasn't even like the good euphoria stuff that we love, like, you know, the cool outfits, the high school drama, which we live for. Jacob Elordi wasn't even in the episode. And it was chilling. Chilling.

I'm queasy. Jackie, it was horrible to watch. Literally, like, such a pit. But definitely Zendaya earned herself an Emmy nomination or two. I do think also Sydney Sweeney will get nominated this year because she's just she's just killing it um it was painful like literally painful to watch because she's like throwing up the whole time she looks horrible because she's going through withdrawals her ankles broken she's like running around town and she can't even run because her ankles broken it was just it was horrible you just want to shake her like go home your mom cares about you she

wants to help you oh my god horrible like the scene where she's like literally in someone's house stealing money and then the people come home early from dinner and they find her under the bed it was just like rue couldn't win she could not win i can't that's crazy and so her mom basically found this suitcase of drugs under her bed and flushed them down the toilet. But the reason why that's a problem is because it wasn't Rue's stash. It was she took it from the drug dealer and then was going to give the drug dealer $10,000. So that's why she's freaking out. The mom thinks she's like fiending for drugs.

And like she is. But I don't know why she didn't just tell her mom, mom, literally, I have to pay this woman $10,000 and you just flushed all that down the toilet. We need to go find $10,000. Because her mom just thought she was being like crazy rue feeding for drugs and she was but she was also really feeding for the money got it but it's still drug money yeah it doesn't matter though because her life is at stake now with this crazy ass drug dealer woman oh damn crazy show crazy show well thank you for recapping it because i've been seeing so much stuff like the craziest episode ever.

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