The Toast - S5 Ep23: Prude or Prudent?: Tuesday, February 8th, 2022

Episode Date: February 8, 2022

Pete Davidson calls Kim Kardashian his 'girlfriend' for the first time (Page Six) (10:17)  NYC gives Pete Davidson, Colin Jost extra time to move Staten Island Ferry (NY Post) (13:14)  Shay Mitchell is pregnant, expecting second child with Matte Babel (Page Six) (18:41)  2022 Oscar Nominations (25:51)  2022 Razzie Nominations (32:55)  Dear Toasters Advice Segment (36:48)  Summer House Recap (50:12) See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Tuesday. Claude is coming to us live from the studio. It's so, it's so heartwarming to see those toasty palm leaves. Hey, Claude, how are you doing? Well, what you're seeing is the toasty palm leaves. In front of me, I'm seeing a studio that hasn't been touched in months. There are packages everywhere. It's literally, it's chaos here. That's why I had to come in. We got to go through some of these boxes. Anything good? Yeah, a mattress, more Sewing Down South pillows, some copies of my book, lots of skincare, lots of different new sponsors coming on. So it's exciting. But before we get into today's show, I have four things to say that I actually wrote down. Wow. Wow. This better be good. The first thing is that I wanted to let everyone know that if you're coming to my shows this weekend in Boston on Saturday and Sunday, we will be having Spritz, which is very exciting. So come Thursday. Another Spritz related

announcement is if you're a California residentia resident we are now being sold in bevmo locations and total wine so i know a lot of the locations have received the shipments yet and you guys have already gone some of them are still rolling out so just call your local bevmo your local total wines if you want to get spritz in store which is very exciting that was two okay three do you remember how i was talking about a couple weeks no no like a week ago that i caught up on rupaul's drag race and my favorite queen was cornbread which ultimately meant she was going to go home soon yes i forgot to tell you that on last friday's episode cornbread hurt her ankle and went home so i literally cursed her immediately but it's pre-filmed so not really and the fourth

thing I have to say is I have an enormous surprise for you for me is it just for me is it for everyone for you well everyone can enjoy oh my god I'm so excited what is it so do you remember how I called you last night and then you were like, sorry, I just woke up, I'll call you back. And then I said, no, nevermind, I forgot. Yeah. Well, I didn't forget. I realized the thing I wanted to show you, I wanted to show you on air

because it is a gift for you. Oh my God, okay. I'm so excited. Yeah. Hi Jackie, this is Carmen from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Claudia wanted me to tell you good luck with your pregnancy and that you're an amazing sister. She loves you so much and believes that you will be a great mom to your baby boy.

I have a joke for you that I think you will thoroughly enjoy. What's the joke? At the wedding, there are three rings. There's the engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the suffering. I hope you have a great day, a great year, and you will be a great mother to your baby boy. Bye! Oh my god. If Carlin says I'm going to be a great mom, then it's facts. So for those who may not be familiar, literally a month ago, I tried to get a cameo from Carlin

when Jackie was really at the height of her obsession with Carlin and it went unresponsive. And then last night, the cameo gods opened up their clouds and dropped a cameo from Carlin. Oh my god that is so beautiful you obviously have to send it to me. Damn I haven't seen Carlin in a while because she's they've been in Zion so she hasn't been on the show but look at her she's such a professional queen like hitting all of her talking points. Ring light. Throwing in a joke. You love to see it. Yeah so that really made my night last night and I'm glad you didn't pick up the phone when I called because I think it's better to have shown it to you on on camera. That is so sweet. I feel so like thought of and I really appreciate the gift. You know,

I love our sporadic gift exchange. It's been a while since we've done it. And now it's my turn. I owe you. That is true. You you do owe me and I don't know how you're gonna top a cameo from the one and only Carlin no that's a literally an amazing idea I don't know how I'm gonna top that with a gift that you're just gonna leave in the studio and never take home I know um also speaking of studio I am at the studio today which does mean my tabletop triangle will be making many appearances so get ready for lots of song and dance today y'all I'm so excited it also means that you are filming an interview with a guest yeah so I'm in studio because I'm filming an episode

today that will air tomorrow with our we'll do a regular episode excuse me so it's a guest segment yeah it's a guest segment we'll do regular episode episode. Excuse me. So it's a guest segment. Yeah, it's a guest segment. We'll do a regular episode tomorrow. And then at the end, I'm sitting down with someone who's been highly requested on this show. And someone who I've actually never met, but I've spoken to like a bunch of times. So I'm actually excited to meet them in person.

And it's going to be really exciting. Yeah, I mean, I'm so excited as a fan to watch the two, as a fan of both of you, actually, just to watch like two people who I enjoy converse. It's something that I would watch on my own if I wasn't a participant in this show. And no pressure, but like, you got to crush it. No, I know. And we also just have like a great show today because there's obviously the Fast Five. It's Dear Toasters, which is always a great day and did you watch summer house i did i caught up on

summer house last night i'm pretty much all caught up except i didn't record the first 20 minutes of last night's episode so i missed the response of like are you hooking up with kristin so we didn't really get much gas like craig was being a gaslighter and like, like Paige was basically like, I know I can't be mad, but like I can be sad. Yeah, sure. But like she's doing the exact same thing with Andrea, like literally to a T and Andrea's in the house. No, and she knows that.

But she's I guess she's now discovering like she actually has real feelings for Craig. Totally. And I'm excited to talk about it. And so just those 20 minutes I missed, but I watched the rest of the episode and I watched everything that I had missed previously. So I'm excited. Yeah. And I really, I just want to get your take on like everyone, like what your thoughts are. Yeah. I have some strong feelings, but I'm also seeing how like my feelings are already changing. So it's like, I don't want to say anything like too hurtful because I can't take that back. And then you and then and I'm really I don't feel this

way about summer house but I feel this way about housewives it's like doing this show it like I sometimes feel like I might not want to say something about someone just in case like we ever have them on you just don't want like your words to come back to haunt you and then I think we need to like make a pact like either we keep recapping and saying our truth or no housewives come on. Because it's, like, you don't want to say something that you'll, like, later regret. I want Paige on the toes, so. I couldn't think of one crossword to say about Paige. Oh, me neither.

Literally, can you imagine just, like, running around in a house full of cameras, looking as snatched as she does like with her legs in different positions like I would be so self-conscious she's so stunning and also her mom gives such good advice I was thinking like that is really sound motherly good dating advice yeah except she's team Andrea and I just I can't she doesn't know yet she doesn't know yet she doesn't know Craig like we do but no I wasn't talking about the summer house cast like I um I feel comfortable sharing my my thoughts and opinions your true thoughts and most of them are positive but it is interesting how like people just can grow on you in one episode and I'm like oh I take back everything I said totally totally so I guess without further ado

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Sign up with promo code TOAST for a special offer that includes a four-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale. There's no long-term commitments or contracts required. Just go to stamps.com, click on the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code TOAST. Awesome. Okay, our first story, like I can't believe this is news. I feel like I'm in middle school, but it's also a big deal. Pete Davidson calls Kim Kardashian his girlfriend for the first time. Pete Davidson was on People, the TV show,

and when he was asked if his heightened fame had led to a more fun lifestyle, he simply responded that most of his days consist of him showing up to a set or hanging with friends or his, quote, girlfriend. He said, or if I'm off. He ran right by that word. Yep, I just either hang with my friends or chill with my girlfriend inside so I don't do much I mean we have to take stock here we have to zoom out they have been linked since October it is February like that is a long time and they're

still together and they're together all the time like duh their boyfriend and girlfriend but it's still shook worthy to hear him say it, considering I don't think any of us thought that we would still be here five months later. No, and he literally swallowed the word. Like, I got to hang out with my friends, my girlfriend. And also, there were two other notable things that happened from the interview.

In the background, the host pointed out, was like, do you have a Kim Kardashian? You know those prayer candles where, like, they're, like, those long, tall candles? Kim has one with her face on it, and he had one in his room, which was incredibly cute. And then also she was asking him about Valentine's Day, and he was like, this is, like, the first year I think I'm, like, having a real Valentine's Day, which is so cute. How is it the first year he always has a girlfriend? Maybe not, like like in February because he only he does like brief stints you know yeah and I'm sure maybe he's one of those boyfriend

he's one of those guys who like breaks up before Valentine's Day so it's like not to get too serious resumes after Valentine's Day but because he's looking forward to Valentine's Day with Kim like once again shows that this relationship is much more mature than we thought it would be you know like when it first started I was like this is perfect thing for Kim you know bounce back have fun but I don't know the more I learn the more I think this has OTP potential OTP potential you think so I get I mean I don't know and it seems like Kim is in the best place she's ever been anything could happen and Pete does have to you know settle down at some point with someone and maybe it's Kim I haven't I haven't really confronted that thought yet to me this is still like you know a cuffing season fling and you know rebounding from however long

she was married but I would love and I doubt she wants I would love to be wrong here I welcome that I doubt she wants to like jump back into like a commitment marriage OTP but you just never know like you expect a rebound and then you just fall head over heels. You just never know. That's the beautiful thing about love. Yeah. So that's really exciting on the Kim and Pete front. So happy for them. Something for the Keats fans. Also, our next story is a little more Pete Davidson news, completely unrelated, but still

exciting. New York City is giving Pete Davidson and Colin Jost extra time to move the Staten Island ferry. So Pete Davidson and Colin Jost bought. OK move the Staten Island ferry. So Pete Davidson and Colin Jost bought. OK, I don't know if you know this. Pete Davidson and Colin Jost bought a retired Staten Island ferry and they want to turn it into a comedy club. But they're having a hard time. Oh my God, I love that idea.

Yeah, they're having a hard time moving the ferry and like getting it into port, literal ship at port. But the city is giving them extra time to figure it out. The massive ship called the John F. Kennedy was still berthed Saturday on city property near the St. George Ferry Terminal. Well past the 10 business days, they were required to move it by. However, the Post is told that City Hall is giving them an extension. However, the Post is told that City Hall is giving them an extension. They're working with us. They know it's not an easy task and they're being very helpful in helping them get the boat to appear.

But then they're going to start a comedy club in a retired Staten Island ferry. And I just think that is so cool. No, that's a really sick idea. I love people, you know, obviously Pete Davidson is from Staten Island, and I saw people on TikTok were shook to find out that Colin Jost was from Staten Island as well. Maybe because Pete talks about it like 24-7 and Colin Jost has never mentioned it. So I guess this is what they were referring to. This is how the internet found out that Colin Jost actually was, in fact, from Staten Island. I love people who give back to their community, who want to help their cities.

New York is in dire need of some new attractions. I think this is such a cool idea. I can imagine getting like a little nauseous. Like you're already nervous. You're doing stand-up for the first time.

You just got booked five minutes at the Staten Island Ferry. Stomach's in knots. You get on stage. The boat doesn't stop moving. You just puke. Yeah, but you have to think of all of these

like cruise performers and stuff who perform on boats all the time plus they perform on huge boats this is a big fucking vessel like this is this isn't a little you know um tugboat it's it's big i'm sure you could feel like the motion of the ocean beneath you but i don't think it'll be that crazy it's like when you go to actually even when you go to like a restaurant like grand Banks you know that place yes like on the boat this is so much this is so much bigger than that yeah no yeah and people go there willingly people go there of their own volition so they do I think this is such a cool idea yeah Yeah, me too. And just the idea of thinking about like Pete, Colin, Kim, Scar Jo,

like taking in an evening of comedy on a retired Staten Island ferry is the sort of dreams that I didn't even know that I had. And you know what? This is, from a business perspective, like really a no-brainer because I can't imagine they're going to have a shortage of comedians who would love to do shows there. I mean, up-and-comers, of course, because you want to be seen by Colin Jost, who writes for SNL, and Pete Davidson.

But then also, like, they have so many comedian friends. Like, this is going to be a poppin' destination. They want to park it in Staten Island? No, just appear in the city. They need to find, like, you know, a home for it. But they're having a harder time moving it from where it is right now it like is going to cost a lot of money and a lot of doesn't the boat just need to like put it into drive i that wouldn't make sense but maybe in the water and it's a boat where are the keys what's so difficult i'm not understanding

put the sail up and go that is so so funny maybe it's like broken maybe it's broken and that's why it has to tow it yeah exactly you do have to tow it but that's that's really a good idea something we're thinking about something to think about for sure I mean who knows maybe this will become like the premier comedy spot in town and like you'll be able to see not like other girls there oh my god I would love to I would be honored to humbled to I think this is such a cool idea I like this is so unique I can't think of anyone doing it's so them because Pete is so Staten Island and they're so comedy and I just think it's great I think it's going to be giving comedy seller a run for their money yeah no and I think there's never enough comedy and never people like love a night out I

think this is just a great idea by all accounts and I um I hope I I step foot in there one day even though I'm probably support um I wouldn't one who would get queasy like that's too much for me but I'm very I'm very delicate with the motion of the ocean so So I'm not one to go by, but you're so delicate. You just make little small poo rocks, small poop rocks. Oh my God. That was so fucking funny yesterday. If you haven't listened to yesterday's episode,

we hit off our inaugural segment. Uh, no, we, we launched. Okay, whatever. We have a new segment on Mondays called Unburden Yourselves.

And if you want to submit, I just want to stress, the email is unburdenyourselves, plural, not unburdenyourself. We couldn't get that email. Right. And because of that, we're going to make the name of the segment Unburden Yourselves. Because why do we need to make it so fucking confusing? It's unburdenyourself, but the email's unburdenyourselves.

It's just the whole thing is called unburden yourselves it ain't right I changed it I realized that yesterday so I changed it in the description of the episode because I was like why are we making our lives more difficult harder yeah it ain't right it ain't right are you ready for our next story yeah okay because we are welcoming another queen to the pregnancy club shay mitchell is pregnant expecting her second child with matt babble she announced that she is pregnant with her second child and said saying goodbye to a loved one while simultaneously experiencing the joy of welcoming another into this world is the great cycle of life. It is almost my challenging, it is also my most challenging season to date.

She said her grandmother had passed away last week. So she's, you know, these two things are happening at the same time. Sometimes. Emotionally. But we are very excited for her. She's so premium. Like everything she puts out is just like gorgeous stunning perfect this photo shoot she had was chef's kiss impeccable just

like gorgeousness um but I love to talk excuse me hold on I have to sneeze I'm going on mute oh I love that I can mute myself um this. Talking about Shay Mitchell really reignites my love for examining the post-life and career of all the Pretty Little Liars girls. Like, for me, and do I talk about this a lot? Is this one of my things? It's not one of your things, but it's like... It's getting there? It's not getting there. It's just...

I don't know where I would categorize it, but go off. You're very passionate. I just love, I think it's like such an interesting like Hollywood, what's it called when it's like a test case? Case study. On how four girls can rise to fame, and then they all literally did completely different things with it afterwards. And I feel

like if I had to have been one of those girls I would have wanted to be Shay Mitchell yeah but which part do you think that she's excelled at best because she does a lot yeah but she's I would say her career is like being like a really really high profile influencer yeah I know she acts a little bit and she's an entrepreneur she has her um like she's a cocktail luggage company and a canned cocktail oh wow yeah she does a little bit of everything yeah and I think she's like did it really well like I remember when she was on Pretty Little Liars especially towards the end she was just like plugging her YouTube channel so much and I'm like why are you doing this but you know long term I think she has such an interesting, like, well-rounded career

that includes acting, but it's not the main drag. Yeah. For me, I'm more of a Lucy Hale. You know, I would have pivoted towards Hallmark movies and the CW and influencing as well. Also good. And then Troy and Belisario very much went like the activist route. I know she's like a big activist especially on social media

and Ashley Benson just kind of went like the socialite route. Like she doesn't really like do anything but she's still really famous. Yeah and Troian like whatever she did she ended up at the royal wedding and so she also made a really good marriage like I think they have a good marriage. I think they love each other

very much and he also got her invited to the royal wedding and that is truly a match made in heaven yeah so every it all has its pros and cons it all worked out it did it really did well I'm happy for Shay Mitchell another one added to the club as we as you know the club shrinks and it grows at the same time we just Kylie's now you know in the postpartum club but now we have Shay so it's it's still exciting though I do feel like less of a kinship to um just because I'm like you're almost there like yeah you're not really in the club anymore no I'm in the club it's I'm as clubby as I'm like you're as clubby as they come yeah I'm doing good I am I can't believe you're still here. I know. I know. The struggle is real. Like for the past month I've been like mornings are

mornings are my favorite. Yeah. Now I still love like doing the toast like once we're into the toast but like just even getting ready. It's not like I'm sleeping so well but it's like just having to wake up and then get out of bed as opposed to like lay there. Even though I do need to get up because I do need to pee. It's just like I'm physically more exhausted. Like everything hurts. It's so crazy. Like I'm just constantly every time I move a muscle, I'm like, oh, like everything comes with a soundtrack.

I feel like you've set a really bad precedent here at the Morning Toast. This is our first, you know, maternity leave. And I just feel like you've set a bad bad precedent here at the Morning Toast. This is our first, you know, maternity leave. And I just feel like you've set a bad precedent. Like, you should have been gone months ago. And I just want to say, like, I will not be doing what you did. That is fine. Everyone is different. And I, whatever you need to do, you'll need to do.

That's completely fine. And I'm just doing, like, whatever I can. But I also know, it's nice to know that, like, you I'm just doing like whatever I can but I also know it's nice to know that like you know you have given me a lot of flexibility though I have not opted to take it but I do feel very much um accommodated here at the morning toast with our pre and postpartum uh policies schedule yeah good good good we are a company that supports pregnant women we are we are don't get it twisted are you ready for our next story which our fourth and fifth stories actually go together and they're kind of like iconic great well maybe it'd be a great time

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That's N-O-O-M dot com slash toast. That's N-O-O-M dot com slash toast to sign up for your trial. Thank you, Claudia. Now our fourth and fifth stories will go with the fourth and then the fifth because that's how, you know, numbers work. But we have Oscar nominations and we have Razzie nominations today.

Woohoo! I'm ready for number five. I know, me too. But let's just go through the Oscar nominations also to see if there's any crossover, something that's nominated for an Oscar and a Razzie. That's always so funny when that happens. Or like an actor or actress who's nominated in one movie for an Oscar and in another for a Razzie. The Razzies are so shady.

I didn't know that they released their nominations the same day as the Oscars. Like that is peak comedy. Everything about the Razzies are iconic. And I think it's like a dream of ours to host the Razzies more so than the Oscars. If the Razzies are listening, like we love everything that you do. Year after year. You never disappoint. Okay.

So here are the Oscar nominations for the big categories, okay? Best Picture. We have Belfast, Coda, Don't Look Up, Drive My Car, Dune, King Richard, Licorice Pizza, Nightmare Alley, The Power of the Dog, West Side Story. Okay. A thousand movies. A thousand movies. I have not seen one of them. Me neither and what's notably missing is House of Gucci. Yes and Lady Gaga did not get the nomination either for best actress and I think you know her fans are quaking but I

haven't seen it yet so I can't say but either the reviews and the trailer like didn't look promising anyways let's continue on best actress Jessica Chastain The Eyes of Tammy Faye Olivia Colman The Lost Daughter Penelope Cruz Parallel Mothers Nicole Kidman Being the Ricardos Kristen Stewart Spencer all right still no House of Gucci I haven't seen any of these movies I love Nicole Kidman I love Penelope Cruz I'm happy for everyone I never seen it I love Olivia Colman I hope they all win oh and Kristen Stewart

this is her first Oscar nomination right I think so even though she was snubbed for Twilight Breaking Dawn part part one and two I agree I hope she wins I do love her even though I also heard bad reviews about Spencer. So. Yeah.

Then for best actor, we have Javier. No, not these days. Javier Bardem for being the Ricardos. Benedict Cumberbatch, the power of the dog. Andrew Garfield, tick, tick, boom. Will Smith, King Richard, Denzel Washington, the tragedy of Macbeth. Um, what I heard, the only thing I've heard about any of these films is that like Will Smith like put his foot in King Richard like he was

incredible so he's an amazing actor I hope I actually am rooting for for Will here yeah then I'm going to scroll down we don't need to do like supporting whatever um just some other categories that I personally enjoy best animated film i mean i don't i think it goes without saying it'll be encanto but the nominees are encanto flee luca the mitchells versus the machines raya and the last dragon luca was big luca was big but like encanto was taking the world by storm and I know so many people message me I know that there's a song no no no wait oh god we don't talk about Bruno we don't talk about that's the only part I know because that's the part that went viral on TikTok and then this song also went viral on TikTok he saw that the man of my dreams that's all i know

very cool everyone you don't understand like it's like you have to watch in kanto there's a song about bruno and i haven't watched yet and olivia it was like kaylor loves in kanto and olivia's like you have to watch in kanto like you're gonna love it plus plus there's the bruno element but i still haven't watched it and like i'm sure i'll be watching incanto like for the rest of my life rest of your life i don't need to watch it right now even though like it's iconic that there's a song about bruno watch paul dark watch ozark paul dark yeah while i still can even luca there's a character named brunoencio Bruno so Silencio Bruno Bruno is on the up no that name is going to be like next year's top list of names yeah no it's it's iconic I love Bruce I miss him even though he's just in the other room and then best original song is always a fun category we have be alive from king richard by

beyonce dos ariguitas from incanto lin-manuel miranda so uh we don't talk about bruno was actually we don't talk about bruno was not even nominated um for the for this category then we have down to joy from belfast by van morrison no Time to Die from No Time to Die, Billie Eilish. Somehow You Do from Four Good Days by Diane Warren. So obviously there's like a, it's almost like a joke now. Diane Warren is like the Leonardo DiCaprio of this category. She's nominated every single year and I do not believe she has won once. That's crazy.

I don't think that this is her year. I do think Billie Eilish will win you think so yeah I feel like Encanto might win I I honestly I don't know enough of the songs but like I don't know I honestly I don't know and I don't care especially since it's not we don't talk we don't talk about Bruno. Obviously, it should have been the one. But they put forth probably this one instead. Well, I'm holding on for Diane Warren. Tonight's, this year's her year. Yeah, it seems like as good a year as any. Yeah.

I can't believe Lady Gaga got nothing. I know. And she, like, put her whole, like, life and foot into House of Gucci. And now she has to, like, do that again for another picture if she wants to be an ego back into it yeah yeah you know she like just leaves everything like it's probably exhausting well she has the oscar from shallow she has grammys obviously did she get a tony no no lady gaga egott singer songwriter has two golden globes which doesn't count no she got um those harper's bizarre like talk about giving us crap we don't need she i think she has an emmy from american horror story she does. She has an Emmy and a Grammy, multiple.

Two Golden Globes that don't count. Obviously, a million Grammys. Oscar, yes. So she just needs the Tony. Yeah, this is the only initial she hasn't touched yet. The superstar has not yet earned a Tony nomination. But we wouldn't be surprised if she brought her talents to the Broadway stage in the near future. Maybe suggest a theater adaptation of A Star is Born.

Harper's Bazaar, just stick to the facts, okay? No, people have a really hard time doing that. No, everyone's got to be like a comedian, you know? Yeah, totally. Okay, but more importantly, it's time for the Razzies. Are you ready? It's the final Razzie. Do-do-do-do.

Do-do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Give it up for the Razzies. We want to host one day. And that's a magic number. Thank you.

Wonderful. Feels good to express myself. The nominees for Worst Picture are Diana the Musical, Infinite, Karen, Space Jam, A New Legacy, and The Woman in the Window. I haven't heard of really any of these. Woman in the Window is the movie that was based on the book that's like a thriller Amy Adams is in it um I didn't hear whether it was good or bad but apparently it was bad and you've heard of Space Jam obviously yeah I feel like based on the titles Diana the musical should lose should win yeahst actor. Scott Eastwood. Dangerous.

That's blasphemous. That ain't right. Blasphemous. Roy Hartramp as Prince Charles in Diana the Musical. I think Diana the Musical might sweep this year. LeBron James in Space Jam. Ooh. Ben Platt in Dear Evan Hansen.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Mark Wahlberg in Infinite. Didn't see it. I think I've only seen one of these movies, but Ben Platt definitely feels like he gave the worst performance. Then we have worst actress. We have Amy Adams. By the way, Ben Platt like takes himself so seriously. Like, do you think he got like an email from his manager this morning that like he got nominated for a Razzie and like it's bothering him? I think it's bothering him i don't think anyone told him yet i think they're trying to figure out how to tell him yeah delicately worst actress we have amy adams in the woman in the window she can't win jning, Karen, Ruby Rose Vanquish.

It's a tight category. I'm feeling a sweep for Diana the Musical. I really am. Wow. Worst supporting actress, Amy Adams again for Dear Evan Hansen. And Taryn Manning again. Taryn Manning,

they're both nominated in both categories. Wow. She was really bad amy adams she must have been if the razzy said so this is so funny so so funny also in worst supporting actor um ben affleck is nominated for the last duel jared leto house of gucci well there's there's house of gucci's nomination wow Nick Cannon the Misfits more Diana the Musical crazy I'm pulling for Diana this year uh you are okay you should also watch it I would rather I'd rather have a day of watching Razzie nominees than Oscar nominees I couldn't agree more. So much more complex and dynamic. A hundred percent. Anyways there's some more categories that are hysterical but may the worst actors win. Congratulations Ben Platt. To everyone who was nominated. Like what is what does Hollywood like think of the Razzies? Because I respect them but

like is it something like it started off as like a parody but now it's like something we've all come to look forward to every year yeah I think some probably some actors like lean into it especially if you're someone who was nominated for an Oscar and a Razzie in the same year I don't think that we have any of that here but uh it's it's it's funny like I hope that they can laugh at themselves. It's hysterical. Speaking of hysterical, when, no, today's Tuesday. Tuesday is the day we do Dear Toasters, which is our advice segment.

So if you ever want to write in, it's deartoasters at gmail.com, and we will do our best to guide you, you know, in the best possible route. It's totally anonymous. So, again, that's deartoasters at gmail.com. best possible route. It's totally anonymous. So again, that's deartoastersatgmail.com. Here we go. Good morning, ladies. Here's an important fact. I'm 27, and here's my dilemma. I seem to have a type, and that seems to be 20 years older than me. My most recent exes are 45, 41, and 47. I've always found myself dating men who have daughters close to me in age and closer to me in age than they are. For the record, I've always found myself dating men who have daughters close to me in age and closer to

me in age than they are. For the record, we've always become besties and that's never been a problem. I really don't want kids of my own, so there's no issue. But I do find myself worried about 30 years from now when I'm still in my 50s and my husband is almost 80 and needs a diaper change. Of course, my poor father isn't exactly thrilled when he's meeting my new man and they're practically the same age. And he made a comment the other day implying he really wishes I would find someone younger. My mom seems to have made peace with this but I'm torn. I've recently tried dating a couple guys in their late 20s early 30s but it lasted like two dates because I was just not into it. I recently started talking to another guy and of course he's 43 and of course I'm super into him.

For the record I'm young, hot, successful. I'm financially independent with a great career and I've purchased multiple homes completely on my own. So I'm not after their money. I'm just into maturity. So do I keep being that girl who dates old men or do I suck it up and lower my maximum age on Bumble? Sincerely, a toaster with salt and pepper taste. I have to say, I think there's two things here.

One, I don't think there's anything wrong with dating someone older, especially you're not like you seem like your motives are totally pure. But I hear you on the being 50 and wiping your 80-year-old husband's ass. I hear you. So can we date like a 35-year-old, like 37, 38, someone 10 years older, not 20? That way you're closer and they're still mature? That's what I was thinking too like you just because like 20 years old is a lot older than you like doesn't

mean you have to date someone your old age your own age and I also think I you make a very good point about like being attracted to maturity and so if you are like having good relationships I wouldn't worry about that so much and I also wouldn't worry about what's going down when you're 50 years old, because also when you're 50, like everyone's mature. And then maybe it's time for you to date someone your own age at that point. So don't worry about 30 years from now. Just do what makes you happy and try and find the best connection for yourself. And maybe you could, you know, high 30s it, find some somewhere in the middle.

But the heart wants what it wants and it does sound like the day you like who you like yeah like who you like and your motives do sound pure and um maturity is very attractive so I I think as long as you can like see like it seems like you you see all of the quote-unquote issues and what could arise and you're not like keeping your head down or blind to it so I wouldn't be so worried I mean it definitely it's probably like a bummer for your parents um parents yeah but but when you meet the right person you bring the right person home like I think it won't be so difficult to convince everyone yeah and I think the fact that you've come to the realization that you don't want kids like you're free to do literally whatever the

fuck you want and I think you should just listen to the song who you love by John Mayer because it's really like you love who you love who you love who you love so whoever you're attracted to that's who you want to be with it's your life like you got to be happy yeah you know yeah I think it's okay agreed next up this Next up. This sounds like a book, though, like something Colleen Hoover would write, you know? That you would read. All right. Hello, that I would read, yes. Claudia and Jackie, how you durn?

I'm seeking advice about a proposal disclosure. My husband's best friend of many years and the best man in our wedding has not told us that he got engaged on New Year's Eve. Here's some context. He and my husband were very close throughout high school and college. We've met his girlfriend several times over the past three-ish years, and we really like her. They recently moved back to our hometown where we no longer live, so there's some geographical distance between all of us.

We saw them over the summer, and the best man told my husband that he had bought a ring and was waiting for the right time to propose. Well, after New Year's, I was snooping around on Instagram, and I saw through someone else that he had proposed. I thought my husband would like to hear the news that is from his friend directly, so I didn't say anything, assuming that he would text him within a few days. Neither of them are very active on social media. Well, now it's been a month. I know that if I tell my husband, he'll be hurt that his best friend didn't tell him himself. I don't think that they've texted in the past month, but they are in a somewhat active group chat with some other

friends, so I'm surprised it hasn't come up. Should I just tell him and get it over with so he can congratulate the couple or do i continue to wait it out and fake surprise when he finds out another way am i wrong to think that this is shady sincerely the second hand offended wife okay first of all it is shady but it's also weird you haven't told your husband like just tell him yeah just tell him be like i was on social media you see so and so got engaged because also say when i mean it's weird that jackie tell him also it's weird that he hasn't what is that i didn't say that that's what you just said you did you were like just say hey are you okay jackie you rewind the tapes rewind the tapes you literally like are you you're gaslighting me is there someone in the studio who can't hear but you are gaslighting

me someone check on her we'll rewind it continue you said it okay I lost my train of thought which is that it's weird that the friend hasn't told your husband, but they also don't seem like chatty, girly girls, like who, you know, are up each other's butts all the time. But, and I'm sure eventually he'll tell. And then like, what are you going to wait three months and pretend to be surprised? And like in these three months you knew, like just say to your husband, oh my God, I saw on social media,

so-and-so got engaged. And then he'll reach out and be like, hey, congratulations. I don't think it's that big of a deal. Applying this, I think you're applying this I think you're applying the standards for female friendship and projecting them onto like your male friends your husband's friendship with his dudes like especially if they're like don't live near each other it's definitely not like super normal that he didn't tell him but it's not like the craziest

thing I think it's weirder that you didn't tell him yeah it's not super normal but it's not the craziest thing and I think you know you can put this to bed really easily and in a very uh benign way by just being like hey I saw this you should like send him a text honestly you do sound like a podster like trying to make drama where there's not no you're looking for stuff you're looking for drama yeah yeah yeah I mean you're a stuff starter who is who is it hello have we met all right third and final dear toasters again if you've written us in recently and we've given you sound sage or terrible advice update us it's not nice you guys leave us hanging like you take our good advice and then ride off into the sunset hello jackie and claudia first off congratulations

on everything the two of you have going on jackie, you'll be the most incredible mom to Elsie. And Claudia, my friends have told me your show is hysterical. Why haven't you come? Your friends have told you? Maybe it hasn't hit her town yet. I'm writing in because something happened that I still can't wrap my mind around and definitely cannot bring it up to my therapist. She'll think I'm insane.

I've had a crush on a co-worker of mine for months. The only problem is he's married. I know that's bad, but hey, I'm never going to act on it, right? So what's the harm? Or so I thought. A few weeks back, he and I were alone at a hotel bar on a work trip when things started to get a little flirty. Next thing I know, drunk me decides to tell this man that I think he's hot

and haven't been able to get the thought of him out of my mind. I assumed he would just laugh it off, but no. This man, straight face, offers a threesome with him and his wife. I assumed it was just the Casamigos talking, so I laughed and changed the subject. The next day, it was as if nothing happened, so I just went on with my life thinking he had forgotten about that drunken part of our conversation. I was wrong. This morning, in the office, he pulled me aside to let me know that his offer still stands and that his wife loves the idea.

I told him I'd think about it and get back to him. Do I do it? I mean, this man is literally my ultimate crush. Also, how the hell would someone turn that down without making things awkward? I should also add to the fact that I've never had a threesome before. Not that I'm not totally open to the idea, just no one's ever offered it up until now. Rude. Let me know and I'll definitely report back. Oh yeah, if you don't report back on this one, I'll kill you. Sincerely, a turned on but not wanting to lose my job toaster.

I just want to say one thing before we give advice. Not wanting it to be awkward in the office is not a reason not to turn him down. Like if you don't want to do it, you don't feel comfortable, turn him down. Yeah, and spoiler spoiler alert I think it's going to be more awkward if you do it and then go back to the office it's awkward no matter how you slice it but at the end of the day do what you want to do not because you're worried about anything also you're you're a toaster who doesn't want to lose your job I I mean I don't I can't imagine how you would lose your job over this if you are if he asked you and you're consenting um it's up to you I think you should do it I don't think you should do it I think you should do it you know what there are some moments in life where you just have to do it do it for the plot do it for the story like I think you sound like

a fun-loving cool gal as long as everyone is consenting and everyone's been tested and you're being safe you know what have a little fun she said she's not opposed to the idea of a threesome so like try it out life is about adventure experience do it no I mean I don't think you should do it and I can't imagine if I were you like I'm also extremely like awkward in the workplace person and I can't imagine if I were you like I'm also extremely like awkward in the workplace person so I can't imagine like having a threesome with someone and then like seeing them around I personally would have to leave the job so if you said you know you're looking for other jobs anyway and like on your way out you want to do a threesome I I could consent

to that for you but uh I think this is bad news bears I actually have a really good suggestion um I think you should tell them that if you're if you do want to do it I think you should tell them be like I'm really down but I think we should wait until either one of us is gonna leave or get a new job until we do it so be like it's like a tentative yes be like yes but only when the time comes for me to leave this job or for you to leave this job then I think we should do it because I just don't think we should like set ourselves up for like awkward intra-office communications so like it's a yes but a hold yes but like people stay at their jobs for years and then what we're just like walking around the office knowing we have like a threesome hanging over our heads still weird it's I it's literally a Tessa Bailey novel it's a Tessa Bailey novel. It's a Tessa Bailey novel. No matter how you slice it, things are awkward now.

But do whatever you want. I'm just saying if it were me, I could not do it and continue to like work with this person. No way, no how. Oh, let me say, I'm a big talker. If it were me, I would literally run and get a new job and start a new life and join the Witness Protection Program. But I'm disassociated from this and I'm just like hearing like you know what but at the end of the day none of what we're saying matters if you want to do it or if you don't want to do it like you need to decide that within yourself if this is something

you want to do and if you do I like my idea of saying yes but only once one of us is getting ready to leave this company because we cannot walk around every day like knowing what we know yeah and it sounds to me like you want to do it but you're just worried about like the awkwardness that's gonna happen later and I'm here I'm here as the awkwardness on your shoulder telling you don't fucking do it it's not worth the big cloud of awkwardness that's what I'm also maybe we can have other toasters chime in who have had threesomes like are they awkward is it something that like is so amazing that it'll be worth all the awkwardness or it'll be like something that like wasn't even that great sexually and then you have to put up with all the awkwardness in the office for the rest of your

life well I think I think like that part could go either way but it's the fact that like you're sleeping with someone who you work with which even if you were two single people like to just sleep together once and then like go into work every single day like I would find that to be really awkward but knowing that like you slept with someone and like he's married and there's no like romantic thing happening here but like we've seen each other's bits and we've been extremely intimate like that's just a lot to like have in the back of your head while you're trying to type up the end of your sales report no I agree Jackie but at the end of the day like I also think like maybe we're overthinking this and like sometimes you just have to be crazy like you know like crazy and

I think that this is one of those moments I don't think we're overthinking this I really I think this is this is big stuff I think you should do it I think so but maybe you know maybe I'm prude maybe I'm wrong no you're not maybe it prude. Maybe it's no big deal. It's another Tuesday. No, no, no. You're not being prude. You're being prudent. You know, like there's a lot to think about here.

And I would love to hear other toasters chime in on what they think. That's today's podcast title. Prude versus prudent. I agree. I agree. I agree with you. Well, I want to hear what other people have to say. And if you've had threesome,

like we are honestly ill equipped to answer this. So maybe someone with more experience in the comments can let us know. So that was dear toasters. Thank you to everyone who bravely wrote in. Of course, we'll be doing this after Jackie gets back from maternity leave. So that was our final one for a while, but still,

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BetterHelp help you alleviate some of those because life is hard enough so Jackie okay give me your I want to hear your um like rundown of what you think of all the castmates okay give me a name and I will tell you my thoughts um Kyle and Amanda okay so many thoughts first of all I they are married now and it seems like they've like obviously worked out whatever what was going on while they're filming but I am just going to try and go off of what I see on TV and I also feel like Kyle is one of these people who it's like there's Kyle the person and then there's Kyle the reality star and I'm sure like you know in the months where they're not filming their relationship is a lot more stable and they definitely have their issues still like any other couple but they the show is such a big part of their life it's such a big part of their

business and he like I can see how he like struggles to deal with all of those things so I'm only commenting on Kyle the reality star because that's what I see and that's what I know. But it is painful to watch. Not only like is he so wrong in his mistreatment of Amanda, who is like the sweetest, most patient person. And like he's fucked up in the past. And the fact that like he's getting impatient, that she's bringing up her cheating trauma, it's like, no, no, no, that's part of the fact that she stayed with you, is that this stays with her, and this is a part of your relationship. Even taking out the cheating, if your man is staying at the bar once everybody else

has left and is not coming home until 4 a.m., and he is so fucking drunk, like, cheating or otherwise, that is not fiance behavior this man is like 40 years old and it's I agree it like the alcohol is really ruining his life and his relationship and he can't even see it and then to come home and not even be contrite about the fact that like you're acting like a frat boy but to put it on her that like she's overreacting when I actually felt like she was underreacting I wouldn't have ever like I literally would have never spoken to him again ever manipulative especially after like seeing his reaction it's not like he came in and was like oh

my gosh I'm so sorry like I'm not gonna do it again he came in and was being an asshole like I can't believe she even puts up with that like she's a much more patient person than I could be but she also really loves him and just walking away from the relationship isn't really an option for her unless like it absolutely has to be but it's it's a last resort it's not something she's just always like I'm gonna go so I have a lot of respect for her but she also like in these first few episodes she just seems so sad like even when she's crying on her birthday because she felt like a burden to everyone and no one wanted to celebrate her. It's like it's weird because being engaged is like supposed to be the happiest time of

your life, but it's actually like the most stressful. It's the worst. So like you see this person or like you don't seem happy. Why are you getting married? But it's like it's just the worst. Like three months before your wedding is just like and I can't imagine that on top of, you know, filming the show, like all of the drinking culture and like everything that comes along with it.

It's a really like toxic environment and she's not a toxic person. So it's just a lot to navigate. And my heart goes out to her. But I also can see how like they ended up together. But while I'm watching it right now, I'm like, girl, leave. But also their business is tied together. It's not that simple. Yeah. So, okay okay Paige and Sierra queens queens queens queens queens looks friendship queens queens positivity like

the two of yeah there I couldn't say a bad word if I wanted to um I just I love their friendship I love their style I they're both like they stay like above the drama but they're both interesting and I like that like they're both single and ready ready ready and willing and able to mingle they are a joy to watch um Danielle and Lindsay I'll start with Lindsay because everything that Lindsay does is then followed by Danielle um literally Lindsay is someone who like I don't feel like would be my type of person because she's very like she's a lot you know she has Claire Crawley chaotic energy she really really does but she also has like it seems um like a very big heart and she can be like a

softie and I feel like she tries to especially this season I don't know what she's like what her overall story is but like this season you know knowing that uh last month she had a miscarriage it's like she um obviously leads with like just being fun and like I'll deal with that when it's time to deal with it but you can tell there's like a sadness there and I just like my heart I want her to find happiness and joy but just like being like you know I'm gonna go to Mexico this week and we're gonna go see the Greek next it's just a lot and she's not like my kind of person in general but I have I'm warming up to her very quickly yeah so I've like I've watched last season and then like sporadically since the beginning and I didn't like her in the beginning and she's grown on me so much she's she's definitely

a you know unique not everyone's cup of tea gal but she's just like a fun loving queen and for the most part she's like a good friend to everyone and I actually really like her now um but it did take me a little to get used to she's just like she's really not like other girls I don't I don't know who I would compare her to she's different so she takes a little bit and now knowing that her and Carl are like so in love makes me so happy for both of them and Carl I just want to say is like a king and I've actually seen like past seasons where he's been like the fuck boy and like really awful behavior and it's just like sobriety is so attractive on on people most people like and I'm just him like having his morning meditation and his run and like AA meetings and being sober is actually like I think a really good foil to the rest of the show

that it can be a lot to watch of I mean all of the drinking there's so much alcohol consumption and it's like and then you forget and it always reminds me of jersey shore where it's like that's what i was just gonna say oh my god the chemical effects of alcohol like it's a lot like the moral hangover the anxiety that comes along with it the things that you do that like you wouldn't have normally done and i do think that like i'm sure you know the idea of being sober on a show about drinking isn't like doesn't sound like the best idea but I think it it adds like a very good balance exactly to the show and he to me is like the most attractive one of them all I mean they're

all so attractive but now wait go back you didn't you skipped Danielle I skipped Danielle sorry okay I was trying to avoid like I'm just I'm not I'm not here I'm not enjoying I'm not receiving what she's giving no and she just like follows Lindsay around and she also is in love with Kyle I don't know if anybody has realized that yet okay I know when like the last time I recapped Summer House you weren't listening because like you don't watch the show I literally said like she's such a pick me like all the girls are like fawning over Amanda like oh my god are you okay are you gonna get married you have this piece of paper like there's a lot of real shit going on and she's like hugging Kyle at the pool like it's weird yeah it's weird and then also like even in the way she was talking about Amanda like at the July 4th party Amanda was like you know living her

best life dancing whatever and she was like talking about her in a way that was like very backhanded, you know, like jealous. Yeah. Like just trying to make her like look bad, but also while not being explicitly bitchy about talking about her. It was just, I think that she is in love with Kyle and also the stuff like of her relationship.

It's so funny when people are like, I mean, I guess everybody does this, but she's like, we're getting married. He's the one, you know, we've been together a year. We're living together. Things are perfect. Amazing. Like, couldn't be better. This is forever.

He shows up and immediately they're fighting. Literally. Even though you can't get along for two seconds. Robert is a p-jump. Like we were introduced to him last season. He's such like a team player. Like all the guys love him. He comes as much as he can, for everyone he's a sweetie like he's a p-jump so like if they're

fighting like I have to assume it's Danielle's fault oh that's so interesting because I was just gonna assume like I don't know Robert from Adam so I was just gonna assume like Robert's not being there for her in the way that she needs him to be. But that's very good to know. As far as I know, like, he's a PJOM. Okay. Very, very good to know. And other than that, she's just, like, up Lindy's butt. She's just always up someone's butt.

And it's, like. It's, like, boring. Yeah. Agreed. I want to talk about Maya because there's. She's kind of, like, fallen through the cracks. But I do feel like there's a lot there. And I think that she's becoming friendly with Ciara and Paige.

But she does like talk to the group next week and start crying. And I don't know what she's talking about, but I kind of feel like she feels like an outsider. Like I don't think anyone has really made like an enormous effort to get to know her or include her. And then like the final straw was when Lindsay was like, you can't come. Yeah. Oh my God. Which is so rude. Why would Danielle come? Danielle has a boyfriend.

Maya doesn't. Two single girls going out on a Saturday night in the Hamptons. 1,000%. And where are you going that you can bring one person, but you can't bring two people? They went to a bar, Jackie. They went to the place where they were at during the day because Lindsay was going to see the bartender and he was working all night. She was like, I promise I'll come back here.

So it's a public venue. Got it. I missed the first 20 minutes. So I missed that. I thought maybe she was going to like some house party or whatever. No, they went to a pool party. It looked so pathetic. Because they're really not allowed to film at a lot of places.

So this place that they went to, I've actually been there before. It's like a restaurant. It's a hotel. And they go to the restaurant. They keep pretending it's like different places. Where is it? What is it? I know one of the restaurants is called called something with a c I just ate there

this summer um it's like random in Southampton um but they have like a pool party and they had like a violinist it was like very low energy and you could tell nobody was having a good time um but so they were there during the day for a pool party then they left and had dinner at home that Maya cooked that looks so good and then Lindsay went back because she had been flirting with the bartender and she promised him she would come back and so she brought Danielle who has a boyfriend and why why can't you bring two people to literally a club a public venue a completely agreed now thank you for that context yes I had a lot of thoughts about Maya because in the beginning it was like she was slipping through the cracks but then I was

starting to feel like everyone on this show you you know, has been, even if they came on last season or the season before, like they're very much a part of the cast to bring on like one new person. I guess that other guy is new too. Well, it's happening with both of them. Like the guys, I don't know. I haven't seen one person talk to him. He seems okay with it. It's like he has really sheltered himself with like his turkey and his protein and his

workouts. And his food shaming. Like what the fuck was that? No, that's a whole nother conversation. But I was actually thinking like it must be really hard to come onto a show like this as just a completely new person and have to forge connections with everyone when everybody's already connected and they're not as like they don't have it as a priority for them to like get to know you and I feel like she's actually doing a really good job like she'll she went to the brewery with that like that random random group of people who aren't even the friends that she came with

and I feel like even as a viewer every week we're getting to know her more and I'm really liking her personality but like this is it's a very taxing like social experiment to come into a house in general like a share house like this not filmed is a lot filmed is a lot to come in with people who are all like celebrities now and best friends and like is so much so I think she's doing a great job but I think she's having a hard time and if she weren't having a hard time I that would be surprising so I think that's what she like sits the group down I think maybe she wants to leave and then they keep her and then she ends up being like a lifelong sister I don't know but I think that's I think that has to be what she's talking about because when Lindsay was just so rude like can I come no like excuse me so hurtful

so hurtful um and then there's the Andrea Craig and Paige of it all obviously Craig and Paige are so OTP Andrea's cute and I know he likes page and i think he has good intentions but it's just not their time agreed and i mean watching craig and page roll out it's definitely like it's not as seamless as i thought it was gonna be not a fairy tale and but i mean that's real life so that's fine but it really is so interesting and how page like just wants to like be single and it just has this like idea and that's always what happens it's like I'm gonna be single for a year but like what about what if love comes at you at eight months you know I know but think about it like think about it I need four more months I'm thinking about it your page you got famous like two three years ago like it's really fresh

you're so stunning you're literally like an eligible bachelorette socialite of New York would you want to settle down no you'd want to have fun for like a few years and then ultimately settle down so I just don't think she was expecting this great love so soon after her most recent breakup yeah I guess I would love to know like more about her dating life in general and also it's like when she's single during this time is she really only seeing Craig and Andrea or are there other people maybe there are people who are like even more eligible interesting famous than Craig even the thing is I love Craig and I can't tell if Paige is only mad that he's hooking up with someone because she's famous and isn't it interesting how they cut Cavallari out of the whole thing they just keep calling her Kristen so for the

first two episodes I I was like, oh, some girl named Kristen from Charleston is in a triangle. Like, I didn't put it together for so long. No, I just thought it was, like, a random girl. Like, random, random. Then I put it together that it was Kristen Cavallari, and I was so shook. And it brings – well well first of all so the

question is this whole time that they were all hanging out and like being friends and weird like which one of them was she hooking up with if either and now the answer is Craig is it yeah okay but then that's so crazy because of the whole Madison LaCroix, Jay Cutler thing. It's like that was a nothing burger then. They weren't, it wasn't even about Austin. No. So I, when all those rumors were swirling and they were all like weirdly hanging out, I just assumed it was Austin hooking up with Kristen Cavallari. Yeah.

We all did. But that, and that's why like last week's episode was such a bombshell because Lindsay was the one who got it out of Craig. No, it was actually Craig the whole time. such a bombshell because Lindsay was the one who got it out of Craig no it was actually Craig the whole time but okay I I was when I was looking for articles this morning I saw page six where um Amanda Batula like did an interview where she like alluded to the fact that there's a chance that Craig is like lying about hooking up with Kristen yeah just to make Paige jealous yeah like so that's a possibility too Craig is very charming like he's not conventionally like

what everyone like he's just like different and I he's like kind of nerdy I could see him being by the way I'm sitting right now with my sewing down south pillows um I could see like him pulling Chris and Cavallari I could no me too but it's like I did he or didn't he and now if he's like lied about it that's also weird uh it's a very interesting dynamic and also when Paige was like it's not I think if it was any other like random girl like she doesn't know she doesn't care but the fact that like now she's in this public love triangle and it's like Kristen it's just who wants that but then when Paige is like you put me in this love triangle I didn't want to be and it's like Paige already was in a love triangle herself with

Andrea and Craig so it's really like it's and it's a mirror image honestly except for the fact Andrea's in the house with them and like she's like canoodling with him every weekend but that's why you can't just like when she said it was her idea to not be exclusive when she said if Andrea finds out about Craig like that's not my problem no it's literally only your problem yours and yours only and now it's becoming a problem and you can you can't avoid like these things whatever it's nice to know that they become a couple soon because they go to Paige and Amanda not Paige and Amanda Amanda and Kyle's wedding like as dates yeah but then in the last night's episode like Paige hooks up with Andrea yeah which like was dumb but I get the point she was trying to make yeah she's fed up yeah but like I just feel solid like I don't even

need to like nitpick this whole thing like I feel peace knowing that they end up together like no matter how they get there like I honestly don't care yeah no they are so stinking cute I just I want more of the love and less of the drama because I mean my ship is just so it's a good show right yeah it is really good and the the cast of characters are good the house and the kitchen is so nice and like they keep it nice and clean and I saw the inside of the fridge and it didn't worry me even though Alex and all of his man meets are like coming through he and they obviously they go back to the city every Sunday and they have a cleaning service come to the house so they could

only make it so disgusting every three days yeah no so that works for me and just like this man's commitment to fitness like it is his like relationship and he has no time for anything else and he's gonna have to kind of boring yeah no he's got to loosen up he's like married to the fitness life and you've got like how do you go on a date with someone even if you're, like, worried about getting two 12 grams of protein? You know? Yeah. A hundred percent. So.

Honestly, I just, now my mindset is, like, I'm worried about Paige and Craig and I'm worried about Maya. Like, I really want her, like, I do feel bad for her. It's a hard dynamic and I just want her to, like, be happy because she seems like a really nice, cute girl. Yeah. So, I'm curious to see what next week is about uh and hopefully hopefully they end on a good note and we get more Paige and Craig he needs like he just should be on the cast I can't deal with like what weekend is Craig coming I

agree he needs to be there every weekend agreed it's really crazy to see him like out of his like we said this about Winterhouse too but like I feel like on Southern Charm he's always the butt of the joke it's like Craig but now like Craig comes to the Hamptons and it's like oh my god Craig's here like this big movie star. Everything's coming up Craig. Everything's always been coming up Craig like lest we never forget that Craig has consistently been on the right side of history on Southern Charm and I'm so glad that he's getting his just desserts and the justice that like he's been seeking now that he's able to like we're able to see him on a show where he's able to thrive and not be under like Shep and Whitney's boot 100% also it just like shocks me when I think back to

like Naomi and Craig and how dearly I shipped and now like Naomi is on Southern Charm again and they are filming or they just wrapped it they've been filming Naomi's there like Paige goes down like Naomi I could see Naomi and Paige like being friends and I don't think Naomi like whatever no Paige on Watch Rap and Zal I've said that like while they're not like friends they follow each other on Instagram and like Paige thinks she's really cute. They're not like, but this was a while, this was like a couple months ago. So maybe since then they've gotten close. Yeah, it's just like, it's just so crazy how things change.

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