The Toast - S5 Ep24: Fofia Yanklyn with Sofia Franklyn: Wednesday, February 9th, 2022

Episode Date: February 9, 2022

Sherri Shepherd to be named 'permanent guest host' of 'Wendy Williams Show' (Page Six) (12:28)  Heather McDonald Posts Video of Her Onstage Faint That Resulted in a Skull Fracture (PEOPLE) (18:15)  French Montana 'Can't Believe' He Once Met the 'Tinder Swindler' - and Has the Photo to Prove It! (PEOPLE) (24:07)  Amy Schneider Quits Her Day Job After Historic Jeopardy! Run (PEOPLE) (28:28) NBC Sports Says 'Situation' with Leslie Jones' Olympics Commentary on Social Media Has Been 'Resolved' (PEOPLE) (34:29)  Real Housewives of New Jersey Recap (41:42)  The Gilded Age Recap (54:45)  Special Guest: Sofia Franklyn, Sofia with an F (1:01:07) See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the morning toast. Happy Wednesday. Hi, everyone. How are you doing? Hey, Claude, how are you doing? Hello, Jacqueline. Happy hump day to you and your loved ones. I am doing splendiferously. I'm so tired. Yesterday was the longest day of my life um but i'm excited to be here because we have got a bang out drag out episode what's the phrase i don't know what you're trying to say but we do have a blockbuster episode for you today if we may just walk you through it really quickly obviously we have the fast five stories and you know what they are extremely varied and I look forward to getting your take on them. We're varied queens. We are. Then we'll be recapping Real Housewives of New Jersey another great episode from the ladies

last night. Can't freaking wait. Also I watched the first episode of Gilded Age yesterday. I don't have enough to say to but I'll put it in the TV segment because who the fuck cares. Yeah. I don't have enough to say, but I'll put it in the TV segment because who the fuck cares? Yeah. Then you sat down yesterday with Sophia Franklin and conducted one of the best podcast interviews I've ever watched. Like, you know how I've been like looking for podcast content to watch? Well, your interview with Sophia was like meant for me. I was your target audience and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I was cracking up. The two of you are so funny. There was so much good tea, information, lessons, wisdom being shared, spilled. And I just enjoyed it so much. I'm so excited for everyone to hear it. Well, let me tell you. Oh, I'm getting emotional. Emotional. Let me tell you that I don't think I've ever been like so taken by someone's presence

in my life I had never met Sophia before obviously like I've dm'd and texted with her a bunch but never met in person and she is first of all she's gorgeous but she's just like this she really is that girl like she's just so she has this great presence about her we were we were having like technical difficulties so for like 20 minutes we just sat there and like talked and we were like tears in our eyes, hysterical laughing. She's so funny. And I think like no matter where you ended up, like on what side of the Call Her Daddy divorce, you should listen to the episode because I think her POV and honestly, I didn't

want to get so much into Call Her Daddy. I didn't want her to feel uncomfortable, but she was really open. So I just let her say her piece. I wasn't really planning on going that deep, but she was open. And there's some good tea in there, obviously, but also, I don't know. I just think don't write Sophia off. She's extremely funny. Her point of view is super interesting. She's been through a lot. And I think you'll see things differently after the episode. Or if anything, you'll just have an appreciation for someone who's really funny and who can laugh at herself and fofia yanklin like it was just it was really like an amazing experience and then i also podcasted with her for her podcast and i do

believe that comes out today and there were some also juicy tidbits on there as well more content for me to consume i'm so excited and also, I think you could say she's textbook everything of the sort. I think those are the words you're looking for. A hundred percent. Like, she was just sitting across from me, like, putting on her Charlotte Tilbury, like, nude lip liner. And I was like, this is a girl, like, I want to be. Like, she's just fabulous.

Wow. I'm wearing Charlotte Tilbury today, too. Me, too. It just wasn't the same. It just doesn't look the same. No, it was different. Like she did it differently and it was so cool. And I just, I felt like I was in high school, like with one of the popular girls.

Like she was just so in person, like so radiant and so funny. And I was like, I was like giddy when I left. Cause I think she's thinking about moving back to New York and I just wanted to like get drinks, you know? Yeah, that's the best feeling. Also, speaking of getting drinks, it looks like you had a really interesting evening last night. So let me just tell you about my day. Share with the class. Okay, tell us about your day. I went to the studio to podcast with you and we haven't been to the studio in months and I just went through every package. It was literally a warehouse. So I was sweating like an animal. We had mattresses, nutrition bars, like all these

packages. I was sweating like an animal. Then I sat down and recorded Melissa Gorga's podcast, which was really fun, like a lot of Jersey tea. And I think it comes out this week or next. I'm not 100% sure. Then Sophia got there. We did our segment. Then we did Sophia's segment. I came home, got dressed, showered, and I went to a Torah class, you know, a little Tamar Judge Bible study moment, which I haven't been to in a while. I used to go to a lot before COVID, and it was really like an eye-opening experience. I guess I didn't realize, like, I have, it takes, I don't know what it was, but like it was an eye opening experience because I realized I think I've been very disconnected from my faith. Like I was just like I was sitting at the Torah class and it all felt so far.

And when I used to do this so frequently and I felt like guilty and actually the Torah class was really perfect for me because and I just wanted to share. I think it's it's obviously a Jewish class, but there was like the overall message that I think is nice for whatever religion you are. Please share. She was basically saying like Judaism, or you can apply it to whatever religion you are, like faith is like an inheritance. There's four kids. The dad leaves them $10 million each. And even if there's one kid who has a lot of money already, he's still entitled to that $10 million, just as much as the person who's not the most well off. And it's like

your faith is an inheritance. Like even if you have an abundance of it, like you always want more. And even if you are not like the most involved in spiritual, you've been like, you're still entitled. We are all children of God. Like we're all entitled to that inheritance. And no matter what spectrum of the religious scale you are, like we are all God's people. And I was just like feeling guilty because like I never go to the Torah classes. And she was like speaking directly to my soul. That's Claudia. That's so beautiful. Thank you for sharing that little tidbit. Yeah, I think that I think that especially in COVID, a lot of people have felt like disconnected from faith. I mean, on a very technical level, like not being able to go to a house of worship.

To church. Yeah. To a Torah class. So I'm glad that you reconnected. It sounded like you had a very balanced day. You know, podcast, podcast, podcast. Torah. Tyler C.

Yes. So then I went over to Tyler C.'s apartment. And I had to like skedaddle out of the Torah class Just a little early And they're like, where are you going? I'm like, I have to go to my boyfriend's apartment, sorry And he's on this new TV show called The Real Dirty Dancing And I watched last week

And then this week's episode he invited a couple people over to watch And it was really fun And he's so good on the show And he's like so proud of it And everyone should watch It's a really cute show And then we just like hung out, ate pizza And I was just like one of Tyler's girls, you know And he's so good on the show and he's like so proud of it and everyone should watch. It's a really cute show. And then we just like hung out, ate pizza, and I was just like one of Tyler's girls, you know?

That's so cute. You know what's such a random coincidence? This always happens to me on my time hop, but I was on time hop. And two years ago today, we went to Tyler C. No, two years ago yesterday, we went to Tyler C.'s apartment for that party that time. Isn't that so weird? You were there on the same day. You were there on the same day two years apart. No, that's my Tyler anniversary. That's beautiful. Do you think Tyler C is the person who wrote in about having a threesome with you and Ben?

With me and Ben? It's possible. I don't want to, you know, we really take pride in our Dear Toaster segment being completely anonymous, so I don't want to out anyone, but it's entirely possible. I don't want to, you know, we really take pride in our Dear Toaster segment being completely anonymous, so I don't want to out anyone, but it's entirely possible. Yeah, I agree. Well, I'm so glad that you had such a well-rounded day, really, and that we get the fruits of your labor, all this content, content, content. How was your day, Preggio? was the same as usual actually not really I skipped over my nap because I thought it would enable me to go to bed earlier and I was like that sounds like a nice idea so I got into bed at 10 30 and of course I was up till 1 still but I did go to the doctor yesterday I have another appointment today and we got to see like the sonogram stuff but baby was hiding we didn't honestly we didn't see shit and I was so fucking tired this is the baby I'm shy um and I was so tired that I was so fucking tired. This is the baby. I'm shy. Oh.

And I was so tired that I was, like, closing my eyes on the table. I was, like, there was nothing to see here. Oh. By Kevin Wilson. Okay. Literally. Just, it was then quiet. Then I spoke to you. Then I watched your interview with Sophia, which was really the highlight of my day.

Then I watched Gilded Age, Real Houses of New Jersey. Usual business. Nothing to report. I watched New Jersey also. We'll talk about it in the TV recap. I actually watched the interview with Sophia when I got home yesterday, like to relive it. And then I watched it again this morning. I'm like obsessed with it. Well, if you're listening as a podcast, it'll be at the end of this episode. And you're watching on YouTube It will already be up on YouTube Like before this video goes up So hopefully you will have already Treated yourself to it

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jackie's in labor oh my god like you would be hearing it from me no i would be hearing it the same way you do totally actually if we were like on the toast you might have a you know a fast track to knowing but it's the same thing here like every time i'm like zach like asking for like you know him to bring me a glass of water he's like he's like you can't literally he'll come in to the like or he'll be in the other room and i'm like uh like just sighing just a general malaise as one does and he's like you can't do that i'm like i can't do what speak breathe breathe literal breathe i just want to say if lc is a true content creator he would know the timing for him to come would be on the podcast because literally that would be so meta so everything like I just think it's something

LC should think about if my water broke during the podcast well so sickening so sickening but depending on like when your water breaks and such, we could keep podcasting because I have time. Like you do have a lot of time before you need to go to the hospital. Would you ever? Imminent. It would depend where we're at in the show because then also I need to get the episode up. Like I'm still going to sit here and work. Right, right, right.

Oh my God. That's like I remember when I was a kid. I think the first like labor on reality TV I saw was kardashian's first birth and her water breaks and we're used to seeing the movies oh get the bag get the car yeah and she takes a shower and blows out her hair i'm like this bitch is crazy but that's actually what happens that's actually what happens you spend a good amount of time at home you see how far apart your attraction your contractions are once they get to a certain point you you go to the hospital. So there's a chance if we were podcasting, I would just sit here in my amniotic fluid and keep working.

And we'd have contractions with you, right? Yeah. That's not a contraction. I think the labor contractions are like doubled over in pain for about one minute. And then you get a few minutes yeah that sounds horrible godspeed godspeed thank you well let's get into the stories our first story some hosting news sherry shepherd will be named the permanent guest host of the wendy williams show sherry shepherd is set to be named the permanent guest host of the wendy williams

show following her health hiatus in September 2021. Beginning in September 2022, the former View co-host will take over the series regularly. However, one source tells Page Six that the move will not be forever. TMZ reports that producers will monitor Wendy's progress between now and September, which is when they would premiere the show's 15th season. If Wendy is healthy enough to host by then then she'll be welcome back with open arms if not sherry will take over and producers will consider a name change for the talk show wow well obviously um it's not going to be sherry on the wendy show but i have to say they've been having a large like a huge rotation of people i know michael rapaport heather mcdonald jerry o'connell also did you see he did you see Heather McDonald posted the video of her faint?

Oh, okay. She's such an icon. Okay. So they had a lot. Leah Remini, I saw a very funny segment that she did. So I think Sherri Shepherd is great. She obviously has a ton of hosting experience. She was on The View.

And she's also just like an American icon, honestly. So I think it's a great selection. But I am confused. I just feel like we've been in this limbo with Wendy for so long. And I do feel like it's time to just like move on. They're like, she's a permanent host, but it's temporary. We'll reassess it in November. Like, which is it?

No, she's the permanent guest host. Right. Like, it's just confusing. I agree that it's confusing. But I'm sure, you know they I'm sure they're reticent to change the entire show considering it's been such a success people love Wendy and even if this is like a slow you know it's ultimately it it will no longer be the well Wendy Williams show I think they probably want to ease the audience into it as opposed to

just being like Wendy's over here's your new show you know and I think they want to just retain that audience so making the changes incremental might be easier for the audience to digest yeah I mean I have do have a feeling my gut is just saying Wendy will not return and I do feel like it's the end of an era like she is there's no show she's not like other hosts there's really no show like Wendy like she's incredibly unfiltered borderline offensive sometimes but like it's refreshing because everyone is not like that so she if she if this is the end of her show career I do feel like she will be missed and there will be like a huge gap in the market and whoever comes in will be great but there is no one like Wendy honestly love her or hate her like you have

to acknowledge she's not like other hosts. No, and it's so hard to have continued success in this space. So whatever she's been doing, she's obviously doing something right. And it definitely signals the end of an era, though I do think Sherri Shepherd will do a great job. Me too. I just, I also feel like we haven't gotten like a really good understanding of what Wendy's going through. So I just want to wish her well, you know, but I am confused. Yes, I agree.

And I hope that she takes the time that she needs. And even if once she does start feeling better, that doesn't necessarily mean like you should go back to working. Like it's a taxing job mentally, physically, emotionally. And sometimes you just need to be not working. Agreed. And I'm sure whatever she's going through, like the stress of being a daytime host was not helping. Yeah, for sure. Wishing her the best, truly.

Truly. Okay, our next story. James. It's something that you just mentioned. I'm just going to scoot it on up to the top. Oh, good. The stories are kind of out of order today. I'm just going to scoot it on up to the top The stories are kind of out of order today

There's no like Usually I try to Have them like make a bit of sense But they don't make sense today The chronology Heather MacDonald posted a video Don't explain yourself You are an artist

And what you do is beautiful and important And I don't really feel like you have to explain yourself honestly thank you Claudia but Heather McDonald is posting the video of herself on of her onstage faint that resulted in a skull fracture so over the weekend actually wait Jackie this story actually should have been slated behind the Wendy story because the video of Heather fainting reminded me so much of the video of Wendy Williams fainting. They're identical. Yes. Oh my God. Watching someone faint is shocking. I hate it. Oh my God. Heather McDonald shared video footage of her fainting spell that took place on stage over the weekend in Tempe, Arizona. The comedian fell after taking the stage for a standup set on Saturday night and was later admitted to the hospital with a skull fracture. On Tuesday, she shared a clip

of the moment along with the jokes that preceded it about how she's been COVID vaccinated, she has the flu shot, she has the shingle shot, and how Jesus loves her, and then she fainted. Okay, Heather's such an icon, first of all. Like, the fact that she posted this video. Because it's not, like, a super flattering video. Like, it's, and she could have, it's not like this was being aired. Like, with the Wendy video, that video just got shared and shared because it happened on air. This is a video that the comedy club recorded.

A lot of clubs can record your show for you, which as a comedian is really helpful to rewatch the show over. And so she didn't have to share this with us. She didn but she did and that's why she's an icon I think the last the last thing she says being Jesus loves me it's like you actually can't write comedy that good honestly like she said clearly Jesus loves me the most seriously and then and I think the audience they didn't realize at first they didn't move they didn't flinch because they thought it was part of this bit because it all like together is comical a bit it's scary and serious but if you're sitting in a comedy club like you would probably would imagine it's part of the bit so literally like I watch a video a couple times over and I'm watching different people in the audience and nobody moved a muscle like not a flinch oh my god and first of

all you can see really where she fractures her skull she goes down hard on her the back of her head and she must be in a lot of pain so like wishing her like a speedy recovery that's and I think for whatever type of performer you are like you always get nervous like I always think like what if I have diarrhea on stage like my stomach starts to hurt and I get like sweaty Shawn Mendes vibes you know that's my personal but I think a lot of people think like what if I faint and I always say like if I go on and like I can't remember what I'm about to say like one of these days I'm just gonna fake faint um so just know if you come to my show and I faint, it's fraudulent. Just like me.

Stop. Then they'll be playing this clip when you really do faint, and then this will be another ironic moment. So take that back. I've never fainted. I take it back. Sorry. I do take it back.

I would actually never fake faint. That's disgusting. You also wouldn't be good at fake fainting because you wouldn't commit to the fall. You would buffer your head or something something and we would all know we would know it's true because like in order for it to be like a real faint like every muscle in your body like everything just shuts down like yeah you're completely limb yeah you wouldn't be able to commit to that limp limp limb limbs are limp yeah have you fainted once in high school, right? I did.

Do you believe that caught you? Yeah, because I donated blood and I was just too small and I shouldn't have. I literally, you guys, I'll never forget. I'm on the third floor walking by the elevator. Jackie's walking this way like towards me. What great timing that we just happened to be near one another. She donated blood and she don't look so good.'s like a little she's a little green and she's like wobbling and i'm like hey sis you good boom falls falls on the floor our history teacher dr joyce came and picked

you up and then you threw up on him no so what happened was so then they came pick me up and they put me in a wheelchair just to like move me around and the nurse like i'm sorry this is just like some trauma gave me a bag to throw up in and so i was sitting in the wheelchair i threw up in the bag and the bag didn't have a fucking bottom it had a huge hole it was a bottomless bag i threw up all over my lap disgusting disgusting it was like and everyone in the school was buzzing about it was a bottomless bag I threw up all over my lap disgusting yeah it was like and everyone in the school was buzzing about oh my god it was like biggest drama it was in between classes everyone was like flooding out and there she was and I mean I tried to do a good deed obviously I haven't donated blood since I'm clearly not a candidate no you're not equipped um but is that the only time you fainted yes that's the only

time I fainted it's one of my biggest fears like it looks so scary I I it's one of my biggest fears yeah yeah especially I mean for Heather and obviously she's joking about and she's back on her podcast so I'm sure she's doing okay but still like a very scary situation so scary but she's like a she's really like such a seasoned comedian that she can make a joke out of this. Because like, some people might feel embarrassed by it. Some people might not want to show the video. And she's just like an icon and a legend. She's a podcaster.

She knows the importance of sharing content with her audience. And I just have so much respect for Heather McDonald always, but today in particular. Agreed completely. Okay, our next story is really funny. It's a story for you. so much respect for heather mcdonald always but today in particular agreed completely okay our next story is really funny it's a story for you french montana can't believe that he once met the tinder swindler and he has the photo to prove it so french montana posted a selfie of him and siren lavav aka the tinder swindler levayev levayev get it right don't get it and actually that's not even his real name and i think it's actually really disrespectful that this article is using his real name his name

is shimon hayut okay so he posted a picture with shio shimon hayut while he was pretending to be simon levav um and he was so surprised that he's rubbed elbows with the fraudster i guess he's been watching the documentary also. And he found the picture and said, I can't believe I met the swindler laughing emoji. Okay, I have so many questions about this. One, because it appears as though they're on a commercial flight. And we all know Simon Leviev never flew commercial. Two, this picture just was posted and taken so out of context.

I think a lot of people were like, my god they're together right now I actually didn't realize until this moment that this was like an old picture that that French Montana like found yeah because Simon is back to his was he's out of prison he's flying on jets again nobody knows what he does for a living he's got all these beautiful women around him so I thought this was something happening now but I guess it's not no I guess it's not but it's so funny because I feel like oftentimes with these uh schemesters and fraudsters they taught they taught these like celebrity connections while they're doing their scheme and of course like the celebrities are like shuttered to think like I don't fucking know this person how did my name get entangled with them and like to then imagine

being French Montana and like watching he probably watched this documentary and then like saw that he's actually met this person. And leaning into it is so funny as opposed to like pretending, you know, like it didn't happen. Yeah. Every once in a while we're watching like a documentary and some celebrity makes their way in there. I forget what I was just watching. And I think it was Gwyneth Paltrow was in it. Like it was like her cousin. Oh, oh, oh.

WeWork. WeWork. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did an interview. The wife was like this wellness freak. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So every now and then it comes up and it's so funny. And you're right.

Like seeing French lean into it is fun. And this just further, you know, cements why I have like a special place in my heart for French Montana. Always and forever. Yeah. That is really funny. You saw that they're making a movie about WeWork. Like a real. cements why I have like a special place in my heart for French Montana always and forever. Yeah that is really funny. You saw that they're making a movie about WeWork like a real it's with Anne Hathaway is playing the wife and I forget who's playing Adam but. I mean if I remember correctly when we watched the documentary and then recapped it I do believe the overall message was like is this a story worth telling um and now it's a story being told again so I mean I'll watch it of course but I don't know I just didn't think

it was like that crazy of a documentary I agree I didn't think it was that crazy of a story but that's just me I have a high bar because I watch locked up abroad you know yeah they should make that into a movie are you ready for our next story only if it's a story that's brought to you by zip recruiter it is actually it's the perfect story for zip recruiter you'll see why you almost would think we plan these things like we kind of should but we don't according to the the latest research, 90% of employers plan to make enhancing the employee experience a top priority in 2022. After all, a happy workplace is a key to attracting and keeping great employees. And if you need to add more employees to your team, there's ZipRecruiter. Their matching technology helps you find the right people for your roles

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But regardless of the outcome, I'm so excited to spend the next couple years at least tackling this new challenge yeah of course I mean even if so she won like I think over a million dollars after taxes 1.382 so after taxes it's like 700 grand that's a lot of money you can definitely live off of that but also people are obsessed with her she's like a trans icon now she's a scholarly queen there's a myriad of opportunities she also probably has a pretty good following on social media um and she's big in the academic space so if not if not now like she can always go back to her job if she wants to or a software job but like why not take the bull by the horns keep going you know off the momentum and see what you could do with your life Amy get it girl I

support this I don't know I kind of had the opposite take what like yeah I just I mean I guess I don't follow her on social media so I don't know like what she's doing and like how she's popping off but the idea that like she's like so smart she has this like big job and now she's gonna quit and become an influencer like it, it just makes you sad. By the way, that's not what she's going to do. She's not becoming an influencer. What is she doing? She's definitely, she's just going to be like a Ken Jennings in a sense. Like, I don't know exactly what she's going to do, but she's not going to be selling FabFitFun boxes. She's like a well-respected woman in science and woman in academia.

And she'll do speaking gigs. Because of Jeopardy because of Jeopardy yes yes okay I don't know I just do speaking motivational speaking she's gonna definitely work with the LGBTQ plus community I think that it's not what you think it is it's gonna be it's gonna be huge I don't know if it's gonna be huge but I also I I don't really know I just feel like maybe she could have taken a sabbatical just to like ride this wave I don't know how far this wave will take her even thinking about Ken Jennings like did he wind up getting the job he's still in the rotation of people so like what does he do all the other days of the week there's stuff out there it's not stuff

we're familiar with because we're not scholars but there's you could be famous in academic circles I'm sure I know that's possible I just don't know anyone who is. And it pays the bills. Of course. Merit scholars. You know, things like that. Okay. I mean, I just, to me, it's like if she has this job that she's liked for a very long time and then she gets this cushion of $1.3 million after taxes and, you know, fees and everything.

That's like a nice, that's just a great, a nice setup. Life becomes a little more comfortable. That's how one person could do it but she took the nation by storm and I think she's really becoming I think she's like a huge inspiration in the gay community like I think that there's so much she could do and yes she could you know have a simple, wonderful life with her millions. Or she could get after it. Take those opportunities, wouldn't you? I don't know what the opportunities are, so I can't say. Me neither, but I know they're out there, okay? Okay, I just like, I don't know.

It's just crazy. Everyone just wants to be an influencer, you know? No, I wouldn't. Don't put Amy down like that. That's not what she's doing. Okay, I hope I'm proven wrong. Really. You know what?

I really, like, I don't know what the opportunities are, but, like, I know that there are. Like, she's going to do, like, college commencements. Like, I just know it. Just because she won Jeopardy? Jackie, she didn't win Jeopardy. She is the second highest ranked Jeopardy winner. She, I'm sure, has a myriad of stories to tell, things she's been through. She could write a book.

She could write a book. You know, I mean, I need to see what Ken Jennings. Maybe you're not like the target demo because you don't watch Jeopardy. Like, does it mean she's an inspiration to a lot of people? She can do motivational speaking. What Ken Jennings does with his time. Motivational speaking, for sure. For sure. What does Ken Jennings does with his time. Motivational speaking, for sure. For sure.

What does Ken Jennings do with his time? Look it up. It's a hard question to find out. Let me see. Personal life. No, career. I, I, I. Okay, career.

Outside Jeopardy. Okay, so it says other game show appearances american crossword puzzle tournament connect connections i guess that's like his own show connections um to say trivia emails controversial tweets omnibus podcast and washington state honor oh she could start a podcast she could start a podcast where she's talking about all things you know scholarly yeah no there's a big a big market for smart podcasts we're not look at ours wait we're not academic so like I don't really know like what she could do but I'm telling you there's something okay I hope that you're right and that I'm wrong I think I am and I think that never happens but I think this might be one of the few times where I'm right you there's something. Okay. I hope that you're right and that I'm wrong. I think I am.

And I think that never happens. But I think this might be one of the few times where I'm right and you're wrong. Okay. Cool. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. Because you want to know why? It's the final story. Story.

It's the final story. Wishing you the best, Amy Schneider, on your influencing journey. And that's a magic number. That was like my breathy version, like my Ariana Grande version version i liked it a lot it was kind of stunning our fifth and final story i have to get your take on this because uh nbc sports is responding to lindsley jones who was taking herself out of the olympics commentary running apparently it was she said i'm starting to feel like this should be my last olympics that i live tweet i know another celebrity bitching but I'm tired of fighting the folks who don't want me to do it they block my videos and they get folks who think they can do it like me

and I'm tired of fighting them I love the athletes and they love me doing it and I know y'all love it but now it's just gotten too hard and no one is fighting for or with me so I guess I'll leave it to the professionals but thank you for the love. And NBC responded saying that it was an error that led to her belief that they didn't want her doing this. They said this was the result of a third party error and the situation has been resolved. She is free to do her social media posts as she has done in the past. She's a super fan of the Olympics and we are super fans of her. This rubs me the wrong way i saw that i saw that leslie posted that and it wasn't that i didn't believe her but i'm like i'm like how are they blocking you like i just didn't understand and

now look at nbc fully validating her story corroborating and i'm sorry I doubted you, Leslie. You're a hero and an icon, an American woman who deserves freedom of platform. And I support. Agreed. Now that I think about it, what was probably happening is if she was filming the TV and commentating, then maybe she was getting like they were taking them down for copyright. And that's obviously frustrating for her when she's trying to speak on the situation but she should obviously be like white listed into being able to do this obviously and also i just think nbc should like make this official like they're so dumb also like the winter olympics

are struggling majorly like no one cares even me i'm like such an olympic freak and you know you could use your mute to cough just letting you know because i do that sometimes oh yeah like there's a it's no it's really nice i didn't know it was gonna be that big of a cough okay even if it's a small cough like you should always just press mute because that's this new interface we're using it's like one of my favorite because i could go like this ready i just sniffled and nobody heard did you hear okay i think people wanted to hear me cough no i don't think that they do. But I just don't understand why NBC is, like, not actually using Leslie as an asset. She is an asset. People are obsessed.

People are watching. The same amount of people are tuning into her Instagram stories and her TikToks than are tuning into the Olympics. I don't know why nobody's watching the Olympics. Even me. Like, I can't be bothered. Yeah. But I think that it's, one, you know, the plight of the Winter Games.

It's just they're not the Summer Games. There's a lot of controversy. There's just a lot of different things, stories coming out, weirdness, you know, quarantine food. It's bad. It's bad. It's upsetting for an Olympophile like myself. But I have no desire to watch. Even when we like shared last week about the opening ceremony, I was like expecting that I would get into it.

I haven't turned it on. At this point point I won't be turning it on it's extremely weird the whole situation is very weird yeah I turn it on every day and I cannot stay off my phone like I cannot focus on any of these activities yeah so at least like they should be thanking Leslie Jones for like bringing some relevancy to this extremely bizarre time and broadcast. And they should really take her on in an official capacity. Like she's fucking hilarious. Of course. Of course.

There's no reason. Didn't they bring her to Rio? I hope so. But that was like six years ago now. And she's still doing it. She's so funny. She's one of my favorite people to follow on TikTok. Les dog. Like come on yeah but i'm glad they're working it out but it's still

like you shouldn't have to make it so difficult for her when at the end of the day she's doing you a favor literally bringing eyeballs to your like train relevant program a relevant program no disrespect to the athletes because you guys are gorgeous beautiful stunning and smart it's the programming it's the Like, it's just not working. No disrespect to the athletes. That's what hurts, to, like, have worked your whole life and then to go. And, one, it feels like nobody cares. But I'm sure there's enough people that, like, care and they're sponsors and they're, like, doing all of the things that they typically do.

But also, I think as an Olympian, like, it's not a premium experience over there. Have you seen the food that they're getting? But, by the way, like – Have you seen the food? I haven't seen the food, but there's always, like like complaints about like the olympic village and the cardboard beds where was the last summer olympics like just recently uh where the fuck where were they we were just watching um tokyo they were in Tokyo yes there was all these tiktoks they were literally sleeping on cardboard beds there's always stuff like that so I don't think that's what's like the core of this problem I can't put

my finger on what it is but I don't think it's that I think we know what it is but um like we don't want this video taken down what there's There's just a lot of, like, political issues. Oh, in China, you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. I just feel like there's not, I'm not feeling the Olympic spirit. No, not feeling the Olympic spirit. But I am hoping that the athletes, you know, get their shine.

Yeah. And as someone who has that spirit running through her blood, it's very upsetting. Yes. Cool. So those are the Fast Five stories. Very complex. Very complex. You could see how I had a difficult time ordering them.

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why it got to like this chaotic place because he's like what the fuck is going on like that just doesn't happen in Italian families right yeah if this was a conversation between like say Teresa and Joe he would have been more receptive to the way she was talking to him. But from the way that Gia approached him from the jump, he was not going to be entertained. You're not going to entertain being spoken to like that. And I have to be honest, in that regard, I do agree. I felt like when they were like all fighting in the driveway, like he wouldn't let her like say her piece because he just like was so blinded by the disrespect but I think for him like it's blinding and you also have to think like given the context like I know that Joe is Gia's dad I do and

I respect that but I don't even think she can get into the headspace of Joe Gorga like all that he did for for those kids when Joe was put away. And then also the things like he made personal sacrifices. Like you know his parents being so stressed out. Like I totally understand. And it must be hard to hear. Like it's like Gia doesn't even want to acknowledge like the bad shit her dad did. And it's like I understand wanting to see your parents in like a positive light.

But like you also can't be delusional. Like he literally put your mom in prison. And he took years away from your mom spending time with her parents yeah no I think Joe Gorga is totally justified in his like anger towards Joe Giudice I don't think they'll ever you know squash it I don't think they ever could because like of what was lost what can never be brought back like as Joe Gorga would say he put his parents in an early grave. And, you know, he sent his sister to prison. Like, these are real things. And everyone's like, it was five years ago.

Like, does that ever become fine? No. Right. So I understand that Joe Gorga will never get over it. I don't even think that he necessarily should get over it. It's just going to always be this wedge between him and Gia. And like, you can feel how much he loves Gia and he doesn't want there to be a wedge. So I think he would rather like bring, like air it out, bring light to it.

But she can't hear the truth. It's too painful for her. And I also have to respect that because she has been through so much. And like she experienced it, you know, just as alongside with everyone and really like at a very vulnerable and pivotal time in her life so like everybody's entitled to how they feel here and typically the way to resolve things is to talk it out but talking about it is like making it worse and so I don't know what they should do you know I also really feel for Melissa because you can you can sense how much

she's trying to like deflate and just minimize the situation because like they like if if if Joe and Melissa like actually told Teresa like they swallow so much if they actually told her every time she but like they they would be back where they were 10 years ago and Melissa I think is so afraid of being back in that place that she swallows everything and like this situation is like blowing up right in front of her. And she's like, she's not taking G aside, but she's trying to like comfort Gia because they're so close.

Every fight they have, they're minutes away from being back to the place with the christening. Yeah. Yeah. And she doesn't want that. It was a terrible time for Melissa. Yeah, I agree.

And then I also feel like Teresa doesn't do anything to help the situation either. She's just like standing there watching when it's like this should be Teresa's fight but I mean I guess Teresa couldn't go to Joe and be like stop talking shit about like my girl's father because it makes because Joe is defending Teresa Joseph and Teresa here right and you know how she loves to be defended that's why we got to get Joe Giudice back in the States for one last hurrah between Joe and Joe. I'm not even interested. Joe on Joe.

We are going to settle this. So the other part of the episode, which was super interesting, was this event at Dolores'. I just love Dolores. You know why? Because I get so frustrated with her because she's like weirdly team Jennifer and Teresa. And when the three of them are sitting at that birthday party unable to see their own hypocrisy I was like you guys are delusional like literally Teresa is literally Teresa did something worse Teresa had no reason to go after Jackie and she made it up Margaret has a million reasons to go after to after Jennifer and it's

true so like the fact that they can't see like how far up they are Teresa's ass I was like so disappointed in Dolores but then seeing her go out with Margaret and like get all the facts I was like I I had some of my faith restored in Dolores because she's so she's so like ethical like she's so wise and she's oh principled but she's always like using her principles in the wrong in the wrong way yeah I agree I'm just glad to see her like come to the other side because it is it's hard watching that ultimately I am team Margaret because like Jennifer doesn't just get to go around and say the things that she does there are some caveats and I like I think

Jennifer made a good point where it's like with Margaret everything that Jennifer has like judged Margaret for are things that Margaret has shared so you're taking something from the private and then judging me for that but again when you push and push and push someone like they're going to come back swinging and that's just how it is so I generally like I I feel like Margaret was justified in being like let's shut fucking shut this shit down. And why is it after every reunion, like Jennifer and at the reunions, like Jennifer just like go scorched earth on all these women. And then it's,

it's episode one. And she has to like come with her tail between her legs. Like, why does she keep putting herself in this fucking position anyways? But I do feel for Jennifer that like, now this is out there, her kids are going to know. And it's a different situation.

Like Jackie said, because at the end of the day, Jackie gets to tell her kids, like, this is out there. Her kids are going to know. And it's a different situation like Jackie said, because at the end of the day, Jackie gets to tell her kids like this is a rumor. And Jennifer is going to have to tell her kids like this is what your dad did. And that's that's really hard. And I have compassion for her. But of course, sometimes you need to learn things the hard way and to not push other people. It's the epitome of people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

And she's fucking throwing bricks for years now. And you know what? I've actually been enormously impressed with Jackie's behavior. Like, I don't think I could be that big of a person. Like, really wanting to help Jennifer. And then, like, after all that she went over to her house and she's coddling her at Dolores' house. And then she hears that Jennifer is, like, still going around to Serena and Tenafly finding pictures of the girl Evan fucked like she's relentless and she still can't see why what's being done to her they feel

is justified she can't see that even after all this and she's just like I don't know I I'm like Jennifer like you're so big you love to like come after everyone and the we come for you and you're crying and you have to go home like I'm like really do you everything she's shown us up until this point has been an act you like you can dish it out but you can't take it and this rule that like you can only dish it out if it's false information like so what we're just peddling Teresa's twisted logic when she said that that at the table, and it's so crazy. She's like rendering herself irrelevant because of how illogical she is to speak to. And all of the women in their confessionals were like, yeah, we just don't even answer her.

Whatever. It makes no fucking sense. But it's like, this is the star of the show and you can't even have a conversation with her. It's so crazy. Like she, if I were her, would shut her mouth when it comes to everything about this because it's like everything that she says about it's like well what about jackie and evan what about what you did to heaven what about what you did jackie like you can't say one thing about the situation without thinking about what she did there like obviously the opposite of principled

obviously and also this new housewife coming in with like the worst take she was so irrelevant then she had one um interview scene and it's like defending Jennifer. It's like, girl, that is not the right take. Get the fuck out of here. I don't know. I think that if you came into a situation and even though like Melissa and all her friends are saying like Jennifer's crazy, she's so mean, she's done all this. You come into the room and this girl is sitting there crying and everyone's like and her life I could understand being like this seems like a lot well you know what I actually did though think it was interesting some of the details we got about the affair like her being nine months pregnant and giving birth the next day like that's

horrible horrible but I didn't realize it was 10 years ago I thought it was like in the last few years like while they were doing the show sort of thing so it really is yeah in the past and the way that Jennifer handled it is like she totally acted like it didn't happen didn't tell her friends her family so now she's just like her spots being blown up a bit yeah and if you have a spot that's like gonna be blown up you shouldn't be coming at everyone swinging so hard and I think for Margaret it's like you've judged me so hard for having had an affair when like the person that you love has had an affair too I know other people are like well obviously Jennifer judges Margaret harshly because she's been the scorned woman in that situation right but it's like if you can you know move on swiftly with Bill and plus like at the end of the day

Margaret and Joe had they their their relationship started from an affair. But, like, they are completely OTP. They've been together for so long. Like, at what point is it just, you know, these things, they do, it's unfortunate, but they happen sometimes. Yeah, like, I don't know if, I mean, I can acknowledge that I'm extremely biased. Like, I love Margaret with all my heart. Like, I know her personally. But I just feel like it would frustrate me if I was Margaret that like nobody seems to give a shit like when they replay some of the stuff Jennifer said to

her like your mother's a slut uh uh you were asking to be sexually assault like I I would be annoyed that like none of the women are as enraged like I understand where Margaret's rage is coming from like it's not just the basic housewife bullshit that Jennifer has been saying. Jennifer has been saying, like, some of the most horrific, demeaning things to Margaret for years. So how these women don't understand how annoyed Margaret is and Margaret wants revenge. Like, I can understand that. I'm a vengeful person. I agree.

I think that there is a real double standard with the group and the women. Like, they expect more from Margaret than they do from Jennifer or Teresa because they're really like they do crazy and say crazy things and like it's not held to like the same standard as like when Margaret were to do something or even like Jackie saying if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck all of a sudden it's the villain of the season right that's the worst thing anyone could say to Teresa just saying saying something that's true. And she did like just alluding to the truth. Or if you could control what your husband did, would he be like, would you have gone to jail? Truth.

Like, and that was like the biggest fucking deal. Meanwhile, Jennifer and Teresa, I feel like they kind of ignore them. And they expect like the women shouldn't have their feelings so hurt by them. But it's apples and oranges. I can't. These are we're all castmates. Like you're all adult. It's not a leveled playing field.

Yeah. But it should be more level. Even like Teresa. I was even thinking last night about like the Teresa Danielle Stout pulling Margaret's hair thing. Like if I'm Margaret. I'm still thinking about that. I'm never getting over that in my life like we can have we can go on vacation and we'll keep it here but we will never be anything closer or

deeper than that like that's a line across I will never forget being a real housewife of New Jersey must be so frustrating because like you are not entitled to like it's just not it's not a fair game like Teresa's just on this pedestal and she gets away with whatever and it's like it's so annoying yeah and Jennifer is kind of there too because season after season like she goes below the belt she like not everything she says and does like really adds up because she's very extreme but she keeps coming back on the show people love her I mean I really like Jennifer but it But it's like if you want to have a fair fight, you need to fight with one of your friends because no one else is going to like your it's apples and oranges. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's a pretty good episode. It's actually a really good kickoff to the season. I don't know where this new girl is going to fit in because she seems so irrelevant already. But let's give her some time. Yeah. I we need to get to know her on a personal level so I can see like where she slots in

because she kind of seems like similar to Jackie and Melissa. And I don't know what she what new stuff she brings to the table. And there was another woman. Is she supposed to be? I don't think so. But she was cute. She looked like they thought she was Teresa. Yeah, she was cute.

She was cute. I like Dolores's new house. I love Dolores. Like, I just wish Dolores could really wield her power. It's like good. And I know what Dolores thinks like she's a smart person and if she could actually say what she thinks and like go against Teresa like it would be gorgeous but that would never happen no because but that's also because she's a

principled queen and and she's been friends with Teresa long before this show and she's not just gonna throw her under and I have so much respect for that agreed yeah um and then what did you think about the gilded age okay so I only watched the first episode but it was really long it's literally like watching a movie and it's so long I love the gilded age period like I love that age New York that time it's everything of the sort so exciting and so I'm really excited about the show there were definitely elements of community theater and that's also because of like the accents you know the way that they spoke back then yes it's like we're watching and it's like why are you talking like that if you're speaking it's

not like a British accent and you're speaking English so why are you talking right so it's hard to watch and I think yeah totally the Russell woman um I think that she is the biggest perpetrator of that and it comes off the blonde one no the one new money oh the mom yeah she's the worst like she's just so obnoxious like i can't yeah so i think that um sure her acting gives a little bit of community theater and there were definitely times where sometimes it felt stilted in that way. But I love the premise for the show. And it reminded me of this book that I read called The Social Graces

because it's about Mrs. Astor and not Consuelo, Alva Vanderbilt. And they reference the real people in the show, even like Mamie Fish is a real person. And I think even that architect, I need to Google him, the architect. Who built their house. their house yeah I think he's let me just google it really quickly I meant to do it last night I think he's a real architect and he like got into like a real uh scandal so I'm sure I like wonder if that's part of the show don't spoil it don't spoil it he is

a real architect hold on let me just make sure that it's the scandal yeah yeah yeah oh yeah okay I was right so if they put like real historical incidents into the show like that's my favorite kind of anything book tv show whatever so I'm here for the premise on all counts it definitely is going to take a minute to like warm up I am excited to watch the second episode Brew loved it obviously there's Pumpkin King Charles Cavalier oh yeah he felt extremely seen any show that has a Cavalier like I will watch until the final episode of the final season I totally agree but like you could tell like he whenever a dog barks or whatever like he's like what was that but when he saw this dog he sat up at the edge of the bed and just sat watching like it was on a different level too cute so if brew likes it i

like it i'm excited for the second episode hopefully they find their groove more but i think it has all the makings of something fabulous i agree that cynthia nixon is it's extremely distracting like distracting like she's on and just like that and the gilded age like i'm sorry you can't at the same time you can't do both and like maybe there's an actor out there who is that talented and diverse that can do both at the same time it ain't Cynthia Nixon yeah so that's my critique but I like her character so it's fine yes me too and also the show show is very anti-licious. It's kind of like my perfect ideal show. It's anti-licious. Totally.

I had one more thing to say. Shit. Was it about the Gilded Age? I don't know. I watched not a lick of TV. I was just so busy yesterday. So that's it for me on the TV recap. You did watch New Jersey.

Yes, that's it. Shoot, I forget what I was going to say if it was about guilty nature. Pregnancy brain. So scrambled. Aww. Well, if that's all from you, that's all from us. If you're listening as a pod... I think it was a brooding. Hold on. Let me try.

Let me try for it. Pumpkin, the King Charles. Oh, yesles oh yes oh my gosh okay we got an instagram comment yesterday that i found so interesting that i need to share with the class because when we were talking about charles becoming king charles someone explained why he's actually not going to be called King Charles and okay here it is my British husband just chimed in to let us know that Prince Charles will not be called King Charles he'll be King George the seventh the past two King Charles's were horrible so he doesn't want that line of succession and his middle name is George so it works out fine not fine for me but I guess oh my

god the plan first of all how are we going to transition to calling him George from Charles first of all second of all like the fact that we're most likely going to be alive knock on wood during like a King George the seventh era like that's giving 1776 no King George the seventh is not an icon he is not the moment and And I think that, you know what? And maybe if King Charles's in the past have been, you know, a bit mad. Well, then it's perfect. If the shoe fits. 100%. And he could turn the term around. I think, Charles, if you're watching, like, please don't do this.

Be true to yourself, your awful self. I know. But you know what they've been doing for centuries where, like, when you do ascend to the throne, you do change your name for whatever reason. But I like it better when they don't. Victoria didn't. Elizabeth didn't. I agree.

The icons didn't. I mean, I guess you'd have to be an icon to not change your name. So maybe it's George after all. It's for the best. I'm glad you remembered that. Thank you for sharing. Thank you. I'm so glad that I did too.

So if you're listening as a podcast, keep listening for the interview with Sophia. I really hope you guys enjoy it. Let me know what you think. She's, if you're a Sophia Stan, like you're going to love the episode. And if you like didn't know, if you fell on the opposite side of the call her daddy drama, we can all be, we can all be civil. And you, I think you'll really appreciate her perspective. It's, um, it's unique. And I feel like she doesn't really talk about this a lot. So I feel very privileged that she felt open and, and comfortable to talk about it. Cause it's a very painful time for her. So enjoy the interview.

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Sophia with an F. Hi, Sophia. How are you? Hi, Claudia. Thank you so much for that intro. Of course. It's Sophia with with an f it's pronounced sofia however i did have a therapist one time um right like reach out to me or had her assistant reach out to me and the letter was addressed to fofia f-o-p-h-i-a after i said it's sofia with an f well which is shocking. When you announced your podcast, I think people were like quaking, ready to hear what your

name was going to be. And I like the name. Like, I get it, obviously, because the traditional way is PHIA. But a lot of the feedback was Fofia. And I want to know what you have to say to the critics. I think if you were to look at where the PH came from, the F is like the original standard way to spell it. And the PH, like the original standard way to spell it and the ph like the ph doesn't fucking make sense i'm sorry okay i mean maybe in the u.s it does but like

outside but we're international girls we're international and like you know we have we can think outside the box yeah we can so you're in new york thank you for coming to the studio i'm very excited to meet you and podcast with you i. I feel like we're vibing already. This studio is so cute. Thank you. And I'm just thinking about my little studio in my mom's basement right now. And I'm fucking pissed. So you are in Utah, right? Mm-hmm.

You fled New York and you never came back. And you're back now. And what are you thinking for your life? What a question. Where do you want to be? Because you really left New York in a tizzy I would have done the exact same yeah um and you've been and being with family is the best yeah I ended up staying in New York way I mean excuse me in Utah way longer than I anticipated

and I've had so many people ask me like why that is I really don't know I think it was just a mix of fleeing and needing to be with family and then COVID. Right. And then I think once I was starting to get ready to come back to New York, I was also trying to launch my show and my business and my merch line and all of those things and building a team. And they're based out of Utah. And there were like a lot of different factors. However, I am 100% ready to come back now. I was actually looking for apartments the other day, which is a full-time job and the worst thing ever. So, I mean, once I get one, I get one. See, people are like, why don't you just go back to New York? It's like, have you ever tried to get a fucking apartment in New York?

You tried. Yeah, it's impossible. You don't just like go back to New York. Do you have any sort of like ptsd when you come back here zero oh good which i find really interesting i have zero of it if anything i think i feel better when i'm here that's good i guess because i used to call it home yeah you know and you just feel like more in the action yeah and i i yeah it actually makes me feel better. And I think it makes me feel like, oh, I'm not running away from something. Right. The way, the way probably Utah makes me feel. Yeah. Cause sometimes when I'm there, I'm like, you know, it's so funny. So when I got canceled

majorly in 2018, I went to Utah. Oh, shut up. Yes. My whole family, like we just fucking threw our shit in a suitcase and ran. We rented a house and it was so nice to be like unplugged out of nature all that shit and so did you wait that is so I just put that together yes how long were you in Utah for what felt like an eternity but I think it was probably two or three weeks okay yeah and like were you on social media or anything I was trying really hard not to I was on way less but I'm a curious person. I just wanted to see what people were saying about me and it wasn't good. Claudia, we have so many stories we could tell about like our canceling. No, I know. And so my first question for you was really like, how are you doing? Cause like I joke now about cancel culture, but like when I went through it, like it was so tough mentally. Like my mental health was

in such a bad position and it took so long for it to bounce back. So my first question for you was like, really, how are you doing? So how long has it been since that happened? Like two years since COVID made it fly right by. Yeah. Um, so I would say I'm in, you know, a 90% better place, but I would be lying if I would sit here and say like, I'm 100% back to who I was completely I mean quote-unquote normal for me um I still like it still shows up in various ways just kind of anxious so sometimes I'll like overthink what I'm gonna say because I'm like so scared of getting canceled again do you have that yeah obviously and you know what as someone who's a little further out than you I do want to let you know like it never goes away oh great but it does get better and in the end like you're gonna see it and you might even be in this place already where when it was happening

you're like oh this is the worst thing that could ever happen to me like what the fuck is going on but then years later you really realize the value that came out of it like for me I there were so many people in my life who were like so fraudulent and like weren't here for me and they cut me out I was like you know what you did me such a blessing because I'd never want to be your friend if I was going through a hard time and you just bounced yep I grew up a lot like how old were you when the whole thing happened um I'm 29 now so I was about 26 27 I was 23 and like it I just wasn't prepared you know right so it helped me grow up a lot there are good things and also it helped me take control of my business. Financially, I was much better off afterwards.

But there are good things that come out of it. Yeah. And so you haven't come fully out of it yet. No, there's trauma. You never will, though. There's trauma. Yeah. It's like, it's just a part of who you are now.

Right. Right. I think that's true. I think it's one of those things that like I can heal from it, but there will always be, it will always be like a part of me and part of my story. Yeah. Um, I guess the difference is like when I got canceled, it was because like people were mad at me for things that I had said, like I, I, in their eyes, like I made a mistake. Um, but I don't really see your situation was so crazy because whether people agreed with how you

handled the situation, you didn't do anything wrong. You didn't like hurt anyone. You weren't you were just making a decision for your business and for yourself that you thought was best. Right. So then, you know, your relationship and yourself and your business was like sort of attacked for that when you didn't actually do anything wrong. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think our cancellations were different. I think mine had like this layer of serious betrayal. Cause you didn't really have any of that. No, no,

no. Cause you were with your sister. I betrayed myself. Yeah. So I think like, yeah, the betrayal, I think,

I mean the bullying, which I'm sure you endured. Yes. But I think maybe like I endured it. More. A little bit more. You know what? You were so unlucky.

Because you wonder why the timing of cancellations are so interesting, depending on the news cycle, what's going on. Not only was it COVID, so people were bored to tears, but there was also not much else going on in the news. So I remember everyone like, it's not normal for most news stories about like two podcast hosts to get that much news. Yes.

But there was just nothing else going on. And it was COVID and sensitivities were heightened. Oh, my God. And it was like the timing for you just was atrocious. Really? I never fucking thought about that. But it was actually the worst possible time. The New York Times was writing about it.

Insane. Why is the New York Times writing about this shit? No, exactly. Because it was really not all else going on and people were working from home and they were obsessed yeah yeah I yeah so I think the cancellation it was hard that way and then it was also hard to see something you worked on for so fucking long um be sold for that amount of money that you knew it was worth I mean I actually think if I would have stayed on the show and we would have not betrayed each other

and we would have kept working on it, I think we could have sold it for more, honestly. And that was always the goal. Because you guys were magic together. That's why, that was unprecedented podcast success from the first year that you guys did it. Nobody gets to the top of the charts every episode with a one-year-old podcast.

And I think that's where the disconnect was between me and hers. Like, you know, I was like, no, I'm thinking I was like, no, I'm thinking a hundred million, she, whatever. Um,

but I think that seeing it be sold for even 60 million, that's, that's kind of crazy. And I, and I've talked to people about that and they'll say, that's just how life is. Like you miss out on money all the time. And you know, these business ventures or you pull out stock and like, you don't end up making a hundred million

dollars, whatever. It's very different when you're on a show and like exploiting your personal life, your sex life, your jokes, your humor, your relationship, your relationship for over two years. And then for that to be sold for that amount of money and like not see a penny, you know, and that's like, that's very different than like oh i'm gonna pull out of you know incredible or beyond me right and now it just went huge you know which i did do that by the way you did yeah i was like an early investor and then i took all my money out and i was like oh i shouldn't big mistake huge big mistake huge well look at me i'm just fucking up my money I just think you should not start Sophia with an F for financial assessment like you should not be giving people financial

advice absolutely not okay so now when you look back on the whole thing like how do you in one word like how do you feel about the whole situation now um in one word I guess two I don't know why I'm putting limitations I'm like sentence a paragraph I don't care um I would say I feel not 100 healed but I really feel it in my bones that this is going to end up being one of the best things that could have ever happened to me. I agree. And even though I'm not there yet, I'm well on my way. And like, I genuinely believe that. So I know the answer to this question, but I would be remiss, devastated, and heartbroken

that the people listening would kill me. What are the odds, the chances for any sort of reunion between you and Alex? 0%. That's what I thought. But I just wanted to put it out there for everyone. I mean, and that she wants to, know Venmo me three million dollars which by the way people say it was 60 was more like 40 oh is that true and then oh and then I guess she's splitting it 50 50 so it's more like 20 splitting it with who barstool right yeah they split it 50 50 from Spotify deal

oh I didn't know that i thought it was just the merch no that was my research no that was in the deal interesting yeah so 20 so if she wants to Venmo me 10 after taxes agent lawyer commission oh we're at three oh my god i feel way better about it um okay i want to stop talking about the caller daddy stuff but i do have one more thing to say okay go ahead there was an episode lizzie just told me thank you alex said she has a two um hour recording of you guys like a conversation that she really wants to release just so she can clear her name as you know not the one who betrayed the other one what do you have to say when did she say that i think she she said it on Jackie Schimmel's podcast. Love Jackie Schimmel.

Oh, when was that? When was that, Lizzie? Like, somewhat recently. Oh, it was recently. Yeah. I know exactly what phone call she's talking about. It would 100% not cover her in terms of betrayal whatsoever. And I actually remember the phone call,

and this is when I knew she was a really scary person to to call a best friend I knew she was recording the whole time oh the way she was talking being super careful saying certain words I'm like bitch you don't talk like this I know this shit is being recorded right right right so then I acted accordingly oh smart okay good so I mean if she wants to really it's very funny after everything she's done she would want to like release something to clear her name like but just move on sorry wait i actually have two more questions about this because honestly i'm just really curious yeah so you guys were sharing an apartment at the time yes how awkward was that and like how did you guys move out and did you see each other um it was it wasn't that awkward because i avoided the apartment like the plague and i was staying at my boyfriend at the times house and then at a certain point she ended up texting me being like I'm fleeing to Pennsylvania to my

parents house like I we I don't think we should be in the same apartment got it so then you guys were able to I mean I think I think there was like one night before she left for Pennsylvania that I think we were both home and we're both trying to like talk shit on each other and our rooms are like five feet away from each other. And it was like, yeah, but for the most part, I avoided the apartment. Okay. And then you took some time off. And one of my favorite things, because you and I have spoken a lot about this, is you

really like you were dead silent. Yeah. And you released like a couple. Was it an Instagram story? Um, yes. Of me talking. No! I already know no and by the way i totally understand being like you just needing to get something out no one's hearing from me like we were like what is so

good sofia we've heard so much from alex like what's going on with sofia and you released this like twisted video it was it was i i remember i'm like pale white i like as pale as this wall i'm sitting on the carpet of my mom's bedroom. I have been bawling my eyes out for seven hours. And, um, I am like told by like my team, you need to put out a statement. Now's the time. And I'm like, I don't want to, I really don't want to. And then, and then I'm sitting there being like, I want to say this, this, and this. And my team is like, so you're not going to say any of that. You like I want to say this this and this and my team is like so you're not gonna say any of that you're actually gonna say this script and you know what's crazy for how shitty that video was would you believe you I told you that was like the 99th like try oh no I

believe you by the way and so do you have time hop no you don't what? Oh my god. Sorry I'm not how old are you 33? I mean sorry I'm sorry 23 is what I meant. 33? I was about to say you're younger than me. I'm 27. I'm not that much younger than you. Oh you're only two years younger. Yeah. Okay I was about to say I can't keep up with the time. Well actually TimeHop is like really like an old people app. Oh it is? Yeah so it's basically just an app that you connect like your Facebook, your Twitter, all your social media, your photo album on your phone and they show you what you were doing this time last year. You get you check it every day so it's basically just an app that you connect like your Facebook your Twitter all your social media your photo album on your phone and they show you what you were doing this time last year you get you check it every day so it's like today last year like a very millennial okay a very Gen Z thing so for me like I have had my phone for so long all of my like apology videos

like a couple days a year when I go back in time it's like oh on this day you were apologizing and my apology video is like so ugly and heinous and like I was so fat at the time like I just want to die and I had this mole on my face like I was gonna ask if it comes up in your time hop but no um I haven't seen I mean it would show up on my Instagram memories yes it would I haven't seen it yet but like it might be coming I have a reminder of call her daddy and barstool and shit every day of course so like i'm kind of just numb to it i just exited out and like go on my merry way so then you launched sophia with an f i've listened to a lot of episodes it's so good thank you so much it's so good and i'm sure it was so hard because just like everyone was wanting you to fail but you just came out guns blazing and

you really changed the type of podcaster that you are yeah and what i think is so cool about you i was looking through your podcast episodes and you have two episodes in a row one is an episode on mental health your anxiety is lying to you the podcast from the next week fingering a lost art you just you can do both yeah and why did you feel the need the need to do a content shift when you had so much success with caller daddy being like a pretty much sex only podcast? A, I got older. B, I went through something very traumatic. And I think mental health became a real focus for me because I had to.

And C, I think that we were just, I think we were limiting ourselves. I mean, we were on the Call Her Daddy show. And this was now my chance to be able to branch into whatever I want. And especially because the show is called Sofie and the Neff, it's like, I'm just going to talk about whatever the fuck I want. Mental health, sex, relationships, what I ate that day, you know? Yeah. And I like it. I like it, too. Thank you.

And also what I like is it's really hard to host a podcast by yourself. Very. I think that I'm the most talented person in the world, and I could never. Like, I'm so grateful Jackie. I have Jackie, and I'm sure Jackie's really hard to host a podcast by yourself very I think that I'm the most talented person in the world and I could never like I'm so grateful Jackie I have Jackie and I'm sure Jackie is grateful she has me um and I know you bring in some people sometimes but most of the show is you how do you do it seriously like step by step so so when I first launched the show excuse me that first episode I really I had to write a script. Oh, of course. There was no, there was just no way. And I, there was like legal shit going on and like, there was just no way.

And so I kind of kept that format for a while. And then I just found myself feeling very not natural boxed in. I couldn't like, I wasn't being as funny as I normally am because you're not off the cuff, you know, all those things. So then I started to just be like okay I'm just gonna write down bullet points of what I want to cover and just go that way and that's what I've been doing granted there's a lot more editing because I'll go off the balls to the wall and like say some things that are inappropriate and you know whatever um but that's kind of how I've done it um it's somewhat pre-planned in that I don't just hop on the mic and go that's impossible no no no exactly um I've also though integrated my cousin whose name is also Alex which is hilarious I know um and I'll have her come in a lot as well

that's nice yeah to bounce off of like a jackie and so do you think when and if you moved out of utah like your content will change at all um oh that's a really good question i think more guests i think yeah i think absolutely more guests and i think it will just evolve the way that i'm an evolve once i'm back here if that makes sense you know just like my best version can I ask you a question because I feel like you know every podcaster there's haters whatever and people who have legitimate critiques and I think a critique that we get a lot that I think you get a lot too is people finding our voices annoying like vocal fry we get that all the time and it's like if I could change it I would sorry I was born this way like, I don't find yours annoying at all. Mine sounds like I'm like crying.

It sounds like I'm whining. Everything is a question. Yes, you do that. Like I, yeah. Does that bother you? I mean, does it bother me that my voice is like that? No, that people, like that critique. I had to get over that within three months of podcasting.

When people say such horrible things about you when you get canceled it actually takes a lot to offend you moving forward it's so fucking true i wish the worst thing people said about me that was that my voice was annoying oh me too that's when you know our cancellations were so fucking bad yes because that is like that doesn't even affect me anymore literally you know um what's your philosophy on on, because you, I feel like before Call Her Daddy, you weren't super active on social media. Like the podcast was your job. And now that you're very much like an entrepreneur

and the podcast is fed by the Instagram followers and you have a whole page for Sophia with an F podcast, you post a lot more. And I'm curious what your, because I'm very pro this particular topic. What is your philosophy on Facetune? Ooh, I used to be all about that um i'm not against it i think it's like so basically with like instagram stories every single one used to have a fucking filter on it

now i try to never do that but i think if you want to throw on a little bit of facetune here and there who cares who cares who cares i honestly i love it I'm obsessed I don't think I've ever posted a photo that wasn't that wasn't face tuned but that's because that's because I'm a deeply insecure person and I own it like my actual Instagram bio is this is a facetune fan page like I so just know everything you're seeing I'm giving you the the precursor disclaimer this isn't real and I think that's fair I like to mix it up and i like to mix it up because of my insecurities and hear me out i'm terrified that i'm gonna start showing up places and people are gonna be like that is not what she looks like you look exactly like your picture

nice because when i you do when i first went out on tour i was like this is the first time people are seeing me in person and i had like a whole 30 minutes in the beginning like i know you guys might not know who i am but like i'm the girl from Instagram like I look so different and I don't even care at this point like I literally look exactly the same so I don't know if you don't know how to use face I'm telling you nobody on the planet knows how to use face tune better than me and okay if there was a competition I would win okay well you I don't think you're you're not taking it way too far can I ask you a question first of all are you single i'm kind of working things out right now okay because first of all i imagine it's quite difficult to date when like oh i'm i see this

girl on hinge sofia let me look her up like uh-huh i imagine it's difficult to decide who to go out on a date with wait what do you mean by that like okay let's say you you meet someone on hinge and you're like hi i'm sofia i don't know do you you use hinge? I don't, I'm not on any, any dating apps right now. Okay. Let's say, okay. You got to a bar. Okay.

This is a really handsome, rich man. Okay. And you're like, hi, I'm Sophia. Two days ago. Yeah.

You put your number in his phone, Sophia Franklin. And are you thinking at all? Like, is he going to Google me? No. Okay. I don't mean to put in your head.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm just so insecure. I'm like, no,

because I don't think what they would your head no no i'm just so insecure i'm like no because i i don't think what they would be able to google is like bad enough that like it would make a dude not want to go on a date no also we're talking about like men we're talking about we're talking about human beings they're not that smart usually like he doesn't care what it says about me on google he cares like what i look like you know naked yes i mean that's really what it comes down to so are you open? Because you put so much of your relationship out there the last time. Is that something you will never do again or will do again?

I haven't decided. I think that now that I own my own company, it's not as risky to do something like that. It's like, you know, what is Dave Portnoy and Barstool going to like come after my boyfriend? Like, okay, cool. risky to do something like that it's like you know what is dave portnoy and barcelona gonna like come after my boyfriend like okay cool um but i i think i'll be more careful yeah you know and i will be more careful with um but i mean at the same time like i didn't it wasn't really me who told anyone anything it was my ex co-host my ex best friend right and you were you weren't

publicly saying who he was right? No, pseudonym. I never said who he was and I really only revealed details that I Felt that he would be okay with people knowing she kind of took all of the this shit and ran with it and told I got it So it's kind of like, you know, I think this next time like I would be open to letting people know do you still talk to him? Yes, okay. Are you guys on good terms? Yes, we are. Okay, that's nice next time, like, I would be open to letting people know. Do you still talk to him? Yes. Okay. Are you guys on good terms?

Yes, we are. Okay, that's nice. Yes. Very good terms. Okay. So before I wrap up, I just want to say you've been on quite a journey. Yes. You've definitely come out on the other end.

And I think you've come out now, like, with a, like, I think a lot of your podcast episodes are surprising. I don't think people would have thought that this is where you would have ended up, but it's such a more, like, mature, podcast and you could really tell like you put your whole ass into it like you really are out there just like doing fingering and doing anxiety and mental health and I just think that's extremely cool because I think obviously why people were always so drawn to you is like you're super funny and you know you say crazy sex things that like people are thinking but never will say out loud and there's so much respect for that but now you're

also like changing like flipping the script a little bit. Yeah. And thank you so much. How long has it been now since your podcast came out? Um, a little bit over a year, I want to say. And it's doing really well. It's doing really, really well. Um, you know, sometimes it plays with my head a little bit because I did come from the biggest podcast in the world. So that's like another thing that, you know, I kind of carry with me. Your frame of reference. Yes.

But however, it's doing, you know, incredible. It's top 1% of podcasts just like yours. And the reception has been really, really positive. Really, really good. Am I saying that correctly? Yes. The sleuths die for you. The sleuths.

And, you know, a lot of the people that used to listen to the old show. Yeah. Call her daddy. Like a lot of them are now few enough people. Yeah. Because there's a lot of the people that used to listen to the old show. Yeah. Call her daddy. Like a lot of them are now few enough people. Yeah. Because there's a lot of the same magic that was there. But you're also evolving, which is always good. Like when you when you're on the Internet for a long time, like you can't keep doing the same thing.

You've got to evolve. You've got to be different. Grow up mature because your audience is a lot of them. It's like the same age as you. And so you're all growing up together. Yeah. One hundred percent. One hundred percent.

Well, I love you. I'm so you're so funny funny i'm so glad to finally have met you in person you too i like want to like go out for drinks one night i can feel something well i told you that we're going on tonight and maybe you should move your flight now that we've connected you see i'm like cool like i think maybe you should move your flight just think about it i will and jackie is so mad that she's not here she's literally like she listens to your podcast all the time. I love her so much. And obviously she's so pregnant. She just like can't risk seeing people,

especially someone who was on an airplane five minutes ago. I haven't seen anyone like a month. So I just wanted to impart to you, like she loves you. Keep doing the work that you're doing. Thank you so much. And Jackie and I will film something for sure. Yes, definitely.

But that was Sophia with an F and Claudia with a C. If you want to hear more from Sophia, her podcast available everywhere with a K no her podcast is everywhere right Spotify iTunes all the places Sophia with an F and then you can follow her on Instagram at Sophia Franklin yep Sophia then I Franklin the Y so oh I like that okay maybe you should change your name so be with an F Franklin the Y Oh, I should. Yeah, that'll really confuse people. You'll be like, oh, this is so annoying. It will be for Thea Yanklin. Everyone follow, listen, subscribe.

Thank you guys so much. I hope you enjoyed this episode. And we're back tomorrow for another episode. Goodbye. Bye.