The Toast - S5 Ep31: Our Attorney Will Get Us Out Of This with Sofia Franklyn: Thursday, March 17th, 2022

Episode Date: March 17, 2022

- Pete Davidson got Kim Kardashian’s name branded on his chest ‘as a scar,’ she says (USA Today) (8:22)  - Kanye West Suspended from Instagram for 24 Hours After Trevor Noah Attack (Pa...ge Six) (22:29)  - Ellen Degeneres Giving Her Staff ‘Millions’ of Dollars in Bonuses as Show Ends (NY Post) (30:37)  - Jussie Smollett Walks Out of Jail After Appeal Court Order Release (via Deadline) (34:52)  - This Might Be The End Of Sharing Netflix Passwords (CNN Business) (50:21)  The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Sofia Franklyn (@sofiafranklyn) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Thursday. We are joined for a little afternoon toast by my own mistake. We will get into it. Please welcome today's co-host Sophia Franklin. Sophia with an F. Woo! Hi, everyone. I'm back. Yes. Back from the dead. Let's talk about why we're here so late and let's talk about how it's a hundred percent my fault. Mm-hmm. Well, yeah. So you take it over. I mean, let me just say I look like a wet dog. I'm soaking wet. Yeah. We both got stuck in the St. Paddy's Day parade. It was probably one of the lowest moments of my life trying to get to work today and not being able to cross any streets and being stuck
Starting point is 00:00:36 in the rain and wanting to literally die. Having to beg a police officer to just, please, can I cross the street to get to my office and them tell you to fuck off yeah it's like i i never realized how privileged i am to be able to just cross the street it's humbling to be told like no ma'am you have to go all the way around yes in the rain yes and there was a line claudia did i skip the line 100 there was a line to cross the street it's just i i can't no i just i can't so i texted texted Sophia like we love you will you come back on the toast while Jackie's on maternity leave she was so gracious
Starting point is 00:01:07 she said yes of course no problem and so I was like great 10 30 in my mind that's what I said and then I wake up this morning bright-eyed bushy-tailed
Starting point is 00:01:16 ready to see my favorite co-host and I saw I have a message from you at one in the morning last night you're like did you say 1 30 because your Google calendar says 10.30, but you told me 1.30. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:01:26 oh, Sophia, being crazy again. I was about to blame you. And then I scroll up and I realized I typed to you 1.30 because I'm a moron who doesn't know how to type and I never read
Starting point is 00:01:34 and I just like send things off and then I live with, go on with my life. Right. So we are here at 1.30 because I don't know how to type. You have been very flexible and I really appreciate
Starting point is 00:01:42 and I apologize. The funny thing is, is when Claudia texted me you actually did the same typo again oh oh yeah like that's how fucked up it is is then again you said no it's for 1 30 and then you said no asterisk asterisk whatever 10 30 I'm like yeah no you're right I did make the same mistake twice so it's 1 30 sophia got here we're so grateful thank you so much again 100 my fault well i mean not i'm gonna blame it on the parade on the saint patty's day parade 100 like it's not on you it's on them and it never is on me that's never ever ever ever that's the lesson so sophia's joining me today we're gonna do the whole show with Sophia which is so exciting because your last stint on this show was so well received and like look at us press girlies making press everywhere we go does
Starting point is 00:02:33 that give you anxiety when you end up in the press um did we end up in the press or use act or we were in literally like all these magazines wait are, are you fucking with me? No, I'm dead serious. Claudia, I don't live on planet Earth. You don't have like a Google alert for your name? No. No. You should. It's so exciting. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:53 Because I think that just- We were in page six. We were in like Us Magazine. Yeah. Oh my, what? Bits of our interview were picked up because like we were making news. Wait, also, I'm about to fire my entire team and like pr and like where the hell are they no nobody sent it to you like we were literally stars okay well i would love to see those articles
Starting point is 00:03:10 if i had google alerts on for my name the anxiety i would wake up with every morning right you like it you're kind of sick like that claudia you kind of like it you want to know why because like if something bad is happening like i need to know about it like I'm I live in crisis mode permanently oh really I'm denial mode it's for my trauma okay I'm denial mode that's how you cope I'm like whatever if I don't see it it doesn't exist I guess that's fair you know but I see everything I can tell I see that so much of your work is on your phone do you then when you're done working like are you the type of person who's on their phone a lot or no constantly on my phone yeah yeah for sure we're being taunted by those bagpipes do you hear them i like or is it or is it like a trauma trigger like i'm not there aren't bagpipes no no there are bagpipes i just i do they
Starting point is 00:03:55 like go in circles like around this building just like 50 times in a row i'm gonna be trying to sleep tonight then i'm gonna hear like oh my god guys and it's it's it i'm we're not saying the parade is necessarily well no disrespect to the irish we're so proud of your heritage but like can you fuck off also it's fucking raining also it's a thursday also it's the middle of the day the irish are obviously they can't be stopped like even the rain won't stop their pride Also, it's fucking raining. Also, it's a Thursday. Also, it's the middle of the day. The Irish are obviously, they can't be stopped. Like even the rain won't stop their pride. No. And directly in the center of Midtown.
Starting point is 00:04:31 It's insane. Why don't we go just around the city? The West Side Highway. You know what? There's probably a reason that we don't understand, Claudia. So you are going to join me here today to talk about all things in pop culture. Are you like a big pop culture girlie? Do you keep up? I'm not huge, but I do like to like divulge here and there are you well it's not divulge what the
Starting point is 00:04:50 fuck is the word oh to like what is the word indulge indulge indulge divulge like kind of works too like if you didn't say anything i would have been like i know fuck okay indulge and so this week and actually like the last month has been like so kardashian heavy obviously because all like the kim kanye drama now there's more stuff coming out um before we get into this i just need to know like where as a person because last time we talked about pop culture housewives like we were really extremely divided i'm curious where you landed on the kardashians like are you a big kardashian girly i love them i don't watch them religiously but i actually really really love them I think they're
Starting point is 00:05:26 genuinely funny me too watching the show people try to shit on them so much I think they're hilarious same and you're not one of those people who just like hates them to hate no and they remind me of kind of my family even though I don't have one sister but just I see the similarity it's just my mom and my aunts and you know we're kind of like that and inappropriate are you and your sister very similar that's why we've always loved them like the sister dynamic totally family first you love that yes good i love them i just wanted to make sure before we you know set off that we're on the right foot yes okay well i think that we should jump in because i'm so excited to hear what sophia has to say about all the juicy tidbits and let's do it let's dive into the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning
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Starting point is 00:08:41 So all these texts were released between Pete and between pete and kanye and pete had sent a picture of himself to kanye and was like i'm in your wife's bed ha ha and so many people noticed that he had a tattoo on his chest of kim and people were freaking out like a tattoo oh my god such a big deal then kim went on ellen and actually said it's not a tattoo it's branded like it's a scar i am at a loss for fucking words yeah how does that go down does someone carve it into his skin is it like what you do to cows it's what you do it's like a really hot metal rod that i guess the metal spells out kim so that's basically he's basically like i can never cover this shit up ever ever right unless i turn it into like a square that's the point it's like like, I can never cover this shit up ever, ever. Right. Unless I turn it into like a square. That's the point.
Starting point is 00:09:27 It's like, you know, tattoos, technically they're permanent, but you know, he's had a million girlfriends. Ariana Grande got a tattoo of him. She had it removed. Technically tattoos are permanent, but for celebrities, they seem to be like kind of indispensable. Right. So this is like, you can't ever unbrand yourself.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Like there's no, there are tattoo removals. There's not brand unremovals. Like. No. No, no, no, novals there's not brand unremovals like no no no it's for life I think that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard to be completely honest I mean would you want um Ben doing that for you I would I would but that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea uh-huh like I like the idea of him having something permanent on himself i do but this is like psychotic especially you know they met in october like let's get some perspective that's the thing and where is it
Starting point is 00:10:11 on his chest just very prominent right here right there like where my left breast is okay where your heart is oh wow wait let me think he was laying in the bed it might have been his right but the iphone flips it okay so whatever makes sense regardless i i think that's so stupid i like them as a couple but like carving into your skin or burning it or whatever come on it's animalistic like we don't need to do we don't but what do you think about them as a couple are you attracted to pete davidson i am not i may i just saw him a month ago or maybe less than that. I was invited to this exclusive private Dave Chappelle. You were? Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Where? Can you talk about it or no? No, yeah. It was in the most random spot. I don't know where it was. It was in the basement of some restaurant. In New York? Yes, in New York.
Starting point is 00:11:02 It wasn't like you couldn't buy tickets or anything. Right, right, right. Dave Chappelle performed and pete davidson performed i spent the entire time looking for kim she was not there i was very upset yeah pete uh i i didn't find him attractive i also just want to say i don't know if stand-up is his strong suit what i know no and that's and that's coming from me maybe he was just having an off day i also saw him live on snl he just he doesn't seem that well i mean maybe he was going through something that's an extremely hot take yes yeah what what was his set about was it about kim? I think he did make one joke about Kim. He was really just opening for Dave.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But yes, I saw him for a split second. Not attracted to him. Or his comedy. Not in that way. Not in that setting. I'm shook by this news. You've never thought that? I mean, do you like his stand-up?
Starting point is 00:12:01 I've never seen it, but I did see his Netflix special which was like 40 minutes. It was really short. It felt very low energy but it did feel like all this stuff with Ariana Grande had just happened and she was out writing songs and talking about him and he had never really said anything about it. So most of the special was I think him just addressing this major it was like his first real before that he was like a popular comedian not like a major A-list celebrity so I think he had to just like finally address it and there were some really good jokes in it it was good it was fine it wasn't like life-changing like some of the stuff but it it was good it was fine
Starting point is 00:12:32 right and I mean when I saw him he's being you know harassed by Kanye West every single day so I'm sure his mental headspace I mean whatever whatever it was I wasn't that impressed he's a thousand times better than I would ever be so I don't know why the fuck I'm talking but yes I saw him a few weeks ago not attracted to him Jackie loves to quote the great Jerry Seinfeld comedy is more no yeah comedy is more personal than food like everyone has their really own tastes I love that take and then Jackie applies that like phrase to everything like podcasting is more personal than comedy I'm using that anytime like something doesn't land like someone says my episode is shit like every single time no it's actually like a really good piece of advice uh-huh okay so I I think the
Starting point is 00:13:15 branding is definitely a unique choice I try not to be a judgmental person that's like one of my goals in my new life like I really try to just like let people live their lives and even though it's definitely not something I would ever do right um I'm I'm happy for them there is something there's a very sexy element to it I have been talking to this guy recently and we just like hot and heavy just right off the bat he already has. He said he wanted to get Sophia tattooed across his thigh so I can like see it while we're like, you know, making love. And it's a, I'm scared and I told him not to, but at the same time, I'm like, please go do it.
Starting point is 00:13:58 That's a turn on that is so sexy. I want you. You like are that girl though. Like I could just see you being that girl who makes like millions of men get tattoos of your name on them. so sexy i want you you like are that girl though like i could just see you being that girl who makes like millions of men get tattoos of your name on them and they're gonna spell it as f-o-f-i-a no it's actually f-o-p-h-i-a is how my therapist fucking wrote to me one time oh my god that is beyond funny what's the craziest do you have any tattoos no are you against them or um
Starting point is 00:14:25 I think on men okay I'm gonna get in a lot of shit I think on men they're sexy I do think that there can be a trashy element like depending on the tattoo um I like them a little bit less on women again I think there are some that I find attractive and think are hot. I don't know for me I wouldn't necessarily want to be walking down the aisle in a wedding dress and you know have a tattoo showing. I think that's a sentiment a lot of people share. Yeah. I've never had to think about getting one because it's against my religion. Oh okay. It is like you can't you can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery. You're Orthodox Jewish? Yeah well it's for all Jews like you really can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery if you have a tattoo. Okay well I'm Jewish so I guess I absolutely shouldn't. You are?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yes. Did we cover this last time or no? I don't think so. Tell me oh my god life-changing happy Purim. Tell me happy Purim to all of our Jewish listeners. Tell me something about your Jewish heritage. It's bizarre. It's very very bizarre. So my I'm Jewish on my mom's side which is how it's passed down. It's a matrimonial thing. If your mom is Jewish and your dad is not, you are technically Jewish. If your dad is Jewish and your mom is not, you are technically not. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Okay. So there you go. My grandma was born in Argentina, but she migrated there from Ukraine, raised very, very Jewish, moved from Argentina. There's a lot of Jewish people in Argentina um moved from Argentina to Utah where I'm from similar just a little swerve I think I was one of five Jewish people there oh my god of course um but she then met my grandpa and decided to convert to Mormonism oh Oh, no way.
Starting point is 00:16:05 A little flip on that. Were you raised Mormon? A little bit. Yeah. Really? Yes. And it fucked with my psyche. And that's why I talk about sex and I'm,
Starting point is 00:16:14 you know, kind of crazy. I think I'm not going to lie, but, um, I also went to private Catholic school. So I'm just fucked up in all, all different ways.
Starting point is 00:16:23 But when did you stop practicing Mormonism um I never really did but that doesn't change the fact that my mom is you know there's like a lot of people feel very in your life and all that shit but I think you know for my grandma she's she practices Mormonism but she considers herself Jewish and she's still you know she's still we celebrate Hanukkah and all of those things. I love that. A multicultural queen. Yeah you're ethnically Jewish. Right so you can convert but your blood is still Jewish. Exactly. Oh my god I'm learning so much about fofija. Ashkenazi. Ashkenazi me too. You should come over for Shabbat. Wait I really really want to.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I've only been to a few. I would love that. And I would love that. And if you do it right, it could be so fun. Like you just get lit and eat everything inside. Okay. Are you gonna invite me to the next one? I would love to.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Oh my god, I'm so excited. Oh my god. I cannot believe Fufi is a Jewish queen. That just like changes everything. Um, okay, so you don't have any tattoos. That was, that's where we started. Zero. Zero.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Maybe that's where it came from. But you talking about Utah reminds me you just moved to New York york uh i've been here for a week how is it um incredible horrifying amazing terrifying all over the place it feels really really good to be back i forgot just how much of a shit show it is. I mean, I had a car. Right. I didn't have to get a certificate of insurance and be approved by 27 people.
Starting point is 00:17:52 To get a couch. To get a couch. Yeah. You know, just those types of things. And plus, I have no furniture in my apartment, so I'm really living in squalor. The first few weeks, now actually because of COVID
Starting point is 00:18:03 and furniture delays are like months, the first few weeks slash months in a new apartment where like you're on the mattress on the floor you don't have blinds is so dark literally very yeah very dark horrible well i'm so happy you're here well thank you so much by the way i'm having the best time ever i'm never leaving i love it here so much but also you have to like realize i just went from living with my family and my boyfriend in the same house to living completely alone so two years with mom brother boyfriend a million people roommates before that and now living alone do you like living alone i love it i have realized there are certain i i find myself doing certain things like oh it's really silent in here I guess I should turn the tv on for background yeah like there's
Starting point is 00:18:51 little things like that and it's like wait it feels a little bit empty I think I need to call someone like right now you know shit like that are you the type of person who likes being alone like I am terrified of the dark I hate I've never lived by myself like I I think it takes a really secure and independent type of person to be able to like flourish on their own well I'm not bitch yeah because I do I do really really like it you do especially I guess coming from like a little bit of chaos yeah there's so many people in your house before yes also though I have spent the last week like from the day I touched down till probably yesterday just going out drinking partying that was distracting my question yeah I've been going out a lot where are Sophia's favorite places to go out in New York
Starting point is 00:19:31 well let's see where did I go I've been to Socialista quite a bit I went to Zero Bond I wanted to talk to you about that because I know you're a member yes yes um gorgeous inside stunning good food great vibes good food yeah okay can you go there during the day or no yeah uh I've never been but you can I think it's like because it's a I think people like to work there have meetings that's what I'm saying I kind of want to get a membership you can definitely like work from there I'm a huge fan of Zerobon I hope they open more um locations in different cities yeah gorgeous inside uh where else have i been just really all over the place you have a lot of friends in new york um yes i do not i feel like my friends are spread out throughout the u.s and a lot of continental queen yes thank you so much but they pop in and out I wouldn't say I have so many fucking friends here but like I have
Starting point is 00:20:25 a good core group and it matters and I'm meeting people just rapidly and it's just great for the podcast like you're building your business so many people come in and out of New York so many people live here who have podcasts must be easier for you now to have in-person guests and stuff that was I mean that was one of the biggest reasons that I was like, I need to get out of Utah and go to New York because what type of collaborations am I doing in Utah? The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Rachel Parcells. I was just going to say, Rachel Parcells.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Do you stand Rachel Parcells? We're obsessed with her here. Yes, I do. What? No, no, no. I don't want to hear anything bad. I'm obsessed. No, I am obsessed with her.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I was going to just spill a little tea. That's not even bad about her. But then I was like, that's tea and I don't want to hear anything bad I'm obsessed no I am obsessed with her I was gonna just spill a little tea that's not even bad about her but then I was like that's tea and I don't want to be that bitch but you know I usually want to hear tea but not from no her style is amazing her home I um was on the same cheerleading team as her shut up I used to stare at her all day long and be like oh she's a goddess for those who don't know Rach Parcell is a really really big um Instagram fashion icon queen she's like one of those she's the original and the biggest like Mormon blogger yeah her content is so premium her kids are so cute she has her own line of clothing I love her I I do love her too have you seen her clothes in Nordstrom it's amazing I have every time she wears her Sunday best to church I'm like gotta go to church yeah right I never bought anything because I would
Starting point is 00:21:43 never wear a dress like that in my life unless I was going to church and I'm Jewish and like I barely go to synagogue. Right. Exactly. There will be an event in my life one day that requires a Rach Parcell dress
Starting point is 00:21:52 and I will be purchasing it. Okay. And you need to tell me and I want to see it. But I mean, that's what I'm saying. If I were to do a collab in Utah, it would be with a mommy blogger
Starting point is 00:22:01 or, you know, a real housewife. Yeah. And that's not really my brand no no it's more my brand actually it really is so um i had to i had to move back here yeah no i'm so glad you're here right you've got a friend in me oh my god what wait what did you say and you've got a friend in me oh my god i thought you said you unfriended me no no you better not what are you talking about okay um okay that was quite a tangent but back to the kardashians the second story is about kanye
Starting point is 00:22:30 west he's been suspended from instagram for 24 hours after a trevor noah attack oh man i'm so like well read on these stories today i don't even need to read the articles let me tell you what happened trevor noah did this actually quite beautiful segment on his show um talking about how he grew up in a in an abusive home from the ages of 9 to 16. And what a lot of people, and it's actually very similar to something I said on the show, what a lot of people aren't talking about with this Kim and Kanye stuff is like what Kanye is doing. It's like, yeah, we're all consuming it.
Starting point is 00:22:55 It's like funny, haha. But it's abuse and it's harassment and it's not letting an ex of yours go and just berating them. And this happens to millions of women who don't have the security and the money that Kim Kardashian has and that's why when people are always like to abusive women like why didn't you leave it's like well look what happens when someone does leave and so he really said a lot of very profound things in defense of Kim and just like defending women and Kanye obviously didn't like it and he posted you know a bunch of shit on his Instagram and one of the
Starting point is 00:23:23 things he posted was very inappropriate and in the caption i think it was four or five times he referred to trevor noah as a racial slur um the k word which was beyond and meta which is a company that owns instagram and facebook disabled his account for 24 hours he's unable to comment send messages or post for 24 hours and they also said comment send messages or post for 24 hours and they also said that if kanye continues to violate the policies the company will take additional steps so i just feel like this is instagram out here doing the bare minimum like the bare minimum 24 hours this should have happened a long time ago right and it had to get to this place right it's like insanity no like our account was literally taken down for
Starting point is 00:24:03 two months and like like we did nothing wrong but like someone's out here publicly harassing stalking being super abusive and like 24 hours is all we get what why do you think they do that do you think they do that because people say oh my gosh kanye saying this on instagram and they're getting you know clicks no i think that like they have a terms and conditions and technically that are bullshit but technically what Kanye has been doing up until this point and that's exactly what Trevor Noah said it's not illegal what he's doing so he can't be arrested and it doesn't necessarily violate their terms and policies but calling someone a racial slur does because they they have a policy against hate speech I see so. So it's like, it's bullshit. But it's still bullshit because I mean, I've gotten in trouble for saying,
Starting point is 00:24:48 oh my gosh, I was trying to look for Molly. Like, like I posted a picture and I said, I was looking for Molly. It was from five years ago. I was sitting in my cubicle when I was working in finance and I got taken off Instagram for a few days. What did you do in finance? I like, like the bottom of the barrel role. I always say I worked in finance and people are like, Oh my God. But really I just, I worked for a team of financial advisors. We're hated it,
Starting point is 00:25:19 but impressive. Yeah. I mean, I mean getting your foot in the door was impressive I was trying to set right I was trying to study for my series 7 but what's up I have no idea gotta get me a series 7 sounds like a Mercedes it does S class series 7 it totally does but I'm really happy Kanye was taken off me too also it's been such a peaceful 24 hours. Right? Also, Instagram has no right to diagnose anyone. But it's, you know, it's widely known that there's struggles.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yeah. And so I think it's just the right thing to do. I agree. And I'd say this every day. It's like, it's our job to come on here
Starting point is 00:26:01 and report what happened. And obviously, every day for the last month, there's been some update with Kanye. And I know people are tired of hearing it and I'm tired of reporting on it. But I just feel like it's our job to come on here and report what happened and obviously every day for the last month there's been some update with kanye and i know people are tired of hearing it and i'm tired of reporting on it but i just feel like there's so many people consuming this and like living for it like oh my god the gossip and it's not like it's really sad and like if you apply this situation to people who are not kim and kanye who don't have millions of dollars who don't have security like it's heartbreaking like and i'm sure everyone knows
Starting point is 00:26:22 you know they either grew up in a home that went through something similar they have a a friend who's like, it's not fucking funny and it's really annoying. And like, honestly, Ben keeps asking me to watch part two and part three of the Kanye documentary. And we watched the first part and I thought it was amazing, but I'm just so annoyed. Like I'm so annoyed with Kanye. Like I just need a break. Yes. And I actually talked about this on my podcast as well.
Starting point is 00:26:42 It's fucked up what Kanye's doing at at the same time we know he's struggling so it's hard to i know be totally angry at him but what he's doing to kim people find it just kind of funny and oh my god and it doesn't really affect her she's rich but it's abuse what he's doing no matter how much money you have it's actually crazy to see you and this is exactly what trevor noah said you could be the most powerful woman in the world kim kardashian is the most famous woman in the world and even she's not we're all equal like she's going through this like a million other people do yes and how terrifying that someone who you had kids with and very personal intimate life with knows everything knows everything and at
Starting point is 00:27:20 any moment will say something that could hurt you or your family. It's every woman's worst nightmare. It is. It really, really is. And so I'm just like so over Kanye and like I need him to just get himself together. And I forget who said this, but I read it somewhere. It's like, you know, struggling with mental health is no excuse for this. Yeah. Because it's abuse.
Starting point is 00:27:38 No, it is. Can I just say a side note? Please. I saw Trevor Noah like four months ago. Okay. It's so hot. Okay. That's so funny. Me and Jackie have a Trevor Noah like four months ago. Okay. Wait. So hot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:46 That's so funny. Me and Jackie have a Trevor Noah story too. We saw him at brunch once and it was like a buffet brunch at Soho House. And we were like, obviously like dying. And then he got up to go to the like buffet and we were just shook at the size of his tushy. Like he has like a, he has like a, like a really good, like, like juicy ass. Like I'll never forget.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Like, that's my fun fact about trevor noah like he's always sitting at the desk at the daily show so you don't see his tuchus but his tuchus is like actually like really juicy that is fucking amazing do you like do you know minky kelly yes do we have a time you look like her wait did we have this conversation i'm in the twilight zone i'm the queen of repeating things me too i think we maybe have this no someone else told me that. Well, I was going to ask. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You were on Dumas Green Room. And she said the same thing. You do. Who do people tell you you look like? Jessica Alba. Oh, you do. You do. But I do have one of those faces where I think people think I look like everyone.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I will have people say, oh, I know you from somewhere and I've never met them in my entire life. Chameleon. I just look like, I look like everyone. Yeah, but you actually really do look like Minky Kelly, which is such a compliment
Starting point is 00:28:50 because she is like the most beautiful girl in the world. That's the nicest thing anyone has ever told me. Yeah, I get told I look like Snooki, so like we're just like not.
Starting point is 00:28:56 What? No, you do not. No, I know I don't, but we're just like, people really tell me I look like Ricky Lake,
Starting point is 00:29:02 who's 65 years old. I don't know who that is. Right? Beanie Feldstein and Snooki. And I'm sitting here with Minky Kelly slash Jessica Alba. And it just, it ain't right. Please. It ain't right.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Please. I'm also being told I look like Steve Buscemi. What? Which I kind of do in this weird way. Claudia, I'm not kidding. Like, the eyes, I'm not kidding. Like the eyes, like the back, like there's something Steve Buscemi-ish there. I've been told I look like people that are, you know. That might be the funniest thing you've ever said.
Starting point is 00:29:35 You do not look like Steve Buscemi. You do look like Jessica Alba. Don't be a Steve. Be a Jessica, okay? Okay, I will. Actually, be a Sophia. No, be a Fofia. We're going to keep going with the stories, and the rest of the show is brought to you by jenny kane i know you love jenny kane we talked
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Starting point is 00:30:49 being evil of course and then she came back and like addressed it a little bit but now I think she's just like hoping we all forget and we haven't forgotten but she is ending her show and she's giving her staff quote millions of dollars in bonuses as the show ends stop so much money literally Ellen is handing out quote millions of dollars in bonuses to her staffers the Post can exclusively reveal. The final episode of the Ellen Jenner show
Starting point is 00:31:11 is set to air May 26 with a source telling the Post on Wednesday that Ellen and the production company Warner Brothers worked together to make sure every person was taken care of.
Starting point is 00:31:19 The exact seven figure sum that will be distributed to the staffers was not disclosed but the source declared it was not even a question for Ellen to cover bonuses. It was very important to her.
Starting point is 00:31:27 The insider added that the host has been incredibly generous to employees since the show began back in 2003 after putting them all through hell in a toxic workplace. Can you imagine your boss making you go home and cry every single day for two years and then being like, here's a few thousand bucks well imagine if she well she says millions of dollars in bonuses which probably means how many people you think work for her and a shit like maybe 50 to 100 you think that's fair fair camera guys producers right I mean I would take the money but no obviously I would take the money and then write a tell-all book but I'm sure the money the money comes with some sort of NDA
Starting point is 00:32:04 honestly oh I hate to be so negative because I do want to believe Ellen's a good person like obviously I would take the money and then write a tell-all book, but I'm sure the money, the money comes with some sort of NDA, honestly. Oh, I hate to be so negative. Cause I do want to believe Ellen's a good person. Like she has changed millions of lives on that show, but it's easy to be nice to everyone when you're on TV. It's when the cameras are off. Are you nice to people? No,
Starting point is 00:32:16 I think, you know what? When there are a certain amount of people that come out and say, you can't just, you can't deny it anymore. Your dad roll over right yeah oh my gosh this is the craziest thing i was shopping for a couch right this was yesterday i saw your instagram story i actually did like that white couch you have okay you did okay it's
Starting point is 00:32:36 very trendy right now thank you and it's gonna be so ugly next year i'm gonna throw away four thousand dollars but we go and white is tough and we go with the trends though right now i deserve it you're trendy i was living in my mom's basement for two years let me get the four thousand dollar couch please i think that's fair so i'm looking for um another couch and i see ellen degeneres has a home furniture yeah no it's not better than jenny kane home no it's not yes i um actually when i was in college, I went to bed, bathed me on like my day of move in to go to, to get like all the stuff for my dorm. And I was looking at this bedspread and it said ED by Ellen DeGeneres.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I'm like, excuse me. Erectile dysfunction. It makes her so rich. It's like huge for her. No, it's no way. She has shoes too. Yeah, ED by Ellen. Why?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Okay, well, first of all i've never heard of it second of all i was so turned off by seeing her name yeah that i didn't even look at what type of couch she had to offer but do know like while we hate her there are like millions of women like who die for her who've been watching her for years who don't who don't care like that's why she's so rich they watch her show religiously they buy everything she does they watch all of her ellen tube all those little kids that she like puts on contract yeah like they're obsessed to die for with her yes yes and they watch they watch her every day i get that i get that so i mean it's kind of crazy that ellen is leaving tv because she's been on tv for as long as like i've been watching tv but i'm just like
Starting point is 00:34:01 over her but what i really do like about ellen well, not Ellen, her show, is that the Kardashians, not to bring everything back to the Kardashians, the Kardashians like love and trust her. And anytime they have like a big interview, they always go on Ellen and she does a good job. I have to give credit. She does a good job interviewing them. And she, all these celebrities love her.
Starting point is 00:34:16 So like she gets amazing guests, even though there's like a million talk show hosts who celebrities are friends with. Ellen has this power over people. Everyone goes on her show, like it's crazy she's she is extremely talented as an interviewer in in a bunch of ways and you know what i say i don't like her i don't like to say that until i know the full scope and the full story it but it does look really bad but you know what i'd like to think that her you know people coming forward about the toxic workplace,
Starting point is 00:34:47 I'd like to think she heard that and changed. You know, let's give people the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, yes. Hopefully. Yes, I love that approach. Okay, we're changing course just a little bit because have you been keeping up with the Jussie Smollett saga? No. You haven't?
Starting point is 00:34:59 I mean, I know what happened, but I have not been keeping up. So you know last week he was sentenced to jail. Five months in jail and like a couple hundred thousand dollars in fines. No. Yeah. And he was like in the courtroom screaming like, I'm not suicidal. If anything happens to me, I'm not suicidal. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And he had to be like taken out of the courtroom. Yeah. And then his brother posted something basically saying he's been put in. What is it called when you're alone in prison? Isolated. Isolated. Isolation. Yeah. Isolation cabin. Cabin. Did you ever watch Parent Trap? No. Isolation cabin.
Starting point is 00:35:30 No I've seen that my first. Yes I remember. Solitude. Solitary confinement. Oh my god. There it is. So and like it was like this crazy thing. But now Jussie Smollett walks out of jail after the appeal court orders a release.
Starting point is 00:35:42 So basically as far as you know let me just read it because i'm okay i don't want to make sure i like fully understand it but he is officially out of jail following the decision earlier today the illinois appeal court cut short the former empire stars sentence um and he walked out of cook county jail at around 8 p.m local time he was surrounded by members of his defense team, family, and other supporters. And his defense attorney told the media that his client only drank water over the past six months and ate no food whatsoever. That's interesting. And what I had read was basically, like, he had filed for an appeal.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And these days, like, the appeals court takes so long. By the time they would be able to get him an appeal, he would already be out of jail because it was only a five-month sentence. So they just let him out because he was a non-violent offender and he didn't like you know hurt anyone or kill anyone he just like wasted everyone's time and lied right which is a crime but it's not a violent crime so he's out of prison and he spent like six days in prison why okay why is his defense attorney saying the water and is are they trying to do like a mental insanity case no i what it sounded like to me was that he was clearly when he was in the courtroom last week
Starting point is 00:36:50 and they told him he was going to jail he's like i'm not suicidal he seemed kind of paranoid that something might happen to him so maybe he didn't eat anything he didn't want to be poisoned okay i said maybe i'm watching like too much orange is the new black but yeah but that's what you do like to act a little fbi but that's what i do like to act a little FBI. That's what I don't know why she shared the statement about water. No, I don't know either. That's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I would love to ask her about it, but is he ever getting an acting role ever again? I don't know. I think he will. Me too. Because you know, I was looking for show for articles to talk about this morning and page six. It was like Jesse Smollett, who's best known for his role on empire.
Starting point is 00:37:23 It's like, um, actually he's best known for lying to the police and making up a hate crime actually like not actually 100 well his sister journey smollett is like pretty up and coming she's pretty popular okay um i don't know i mean the thing is it happened so long ago that really even though it was so crazy and so fucked up like it just seems like less of a big deal now that it was like i remember when it was happening and people were outraged like even the you know a really famous successful guy it could happen to anyone and then like when he thought we found out
Starting point is 00:37:53 he was lying it was like he took advantage of us like everyone was like but now it's been like a couple years it was like was it so bad right right time heals all wounds people even though like it was a terrible thing to do it was really. It really made light of the whole thing. And people who doubt victims now are going to doubt because of Jussie. What he did was horrible. But it was horrible. I do think that because of what he did, he almost might get a role. You think?
Starting point is 00:38:21 Well, he's more famous now. It might be like Sharknado. Like one of those types of movies. Not a role anyone really wants to take but kind of yeah but he has some notoriety now that's true and i think that he will get a role in something watch i do agree that it'll be very interesting to watch um what happens to his career like if he continues to work yeah um that was such a crazy thing it was such a crazy time in america like it was just chaotic i'm just remembering like what speaking of prison like total random segue but people always ask me like what my final meal would be like if i ever went
Starting point is 00:38:54 to prison like what would your final meal be that's such a good question my favorite food in the entire world is sushi however i have been to jail oh my god I'm so sorry I forgot you have like a mugshot let's talk sorry let's just backtrack really quickly can you tell me about the day you were arrested so I've been arrested multiple times oh really yes um one of them I was actually there's the drunk tank and then there's being booked into jail and drunk tank is like when you're just acting a fool and they wait for you to sober up and they let you go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Basically. One of my arrests, I was actually booked into the jail. So orange jumpsuit. They took all of my belongings. I had extensions in my hair. They asked me if it was my hair and I was like, fuck yes it is. I paid for it. Were they going to take it out?
Starting point is 00:39:42 They took it out. How? They cut it? They were clip-ins oh okay i was disgusting back then blonde hair clip-ins falling out of my head all day just whatever yeah um on my police report at the top it says it has like a star and it says we because they confiscate everything and it said have her clip-in extensions at the very top. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:40:07 But I was booked into the jail. What for, may I ask? Underage, public intoxication, underage drinking, resisting arrest. In Utah? Yes. Okay. Thank you for sharing, by the way. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I do have a mugshot. I've seen it on some of your merch. I have two. Which one do you like better? Not the one that is publicized. Well, that's just how the world works, honestly. And what was jail like? So it was very interesting.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I actually made really good friends in there. I had no idea how long I was going to be in there for. I think they were trying to fuck with me a little bit and kind of trying to scare me straight. And they were like, you could be in here for up to a week. Right. You could be on that show, A&E Scared Straight. Yes. And but the thing is, is there were there were women in there for really crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Right. You know, like intense stuff. Right. But anyways, my jail cell. The I shared a bunk. Top top or bottom i was on the bottom she was already at the top she did not say hi to me um i was young that was my first time ever there i was terrified and so i decided to reach out to her although a sweet lady did tell me before i got in there to not talk to anyone, not tell anyone what I did.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Like real shit. I didn't listen. I didn't listen. And I remember asking the girl on the top bunk. I said, I'm just really, really scared. Do you have any advice for me? Because, you know, it seems like you've been here for a while. You're very relaxed up there.
Starting point is 00:41:43 And I'll never forget these words she said. It's scarier out there than it is in here. Wow. That's chilling. That's chilly. I'm like, I don't know what you've been up to. She crawled down. But the whole point, my whole point is the jail food.
Starting point is 00:41:59 No, wait, sorry. I have more questions before we get to the jail food. You're like, shut the fuck up. So how many evenings did you spend in the facility i was only there i think for maybe 48 hours which is a long time oh my god it's an eternity an eternity you can't i don't have people's phone numbers memorized i can't call anyone was your family wondering where you were did they know oh oh they went to the jail my grandpa walked in was freaking out let her out like all she did was you know right too drunk
Starting point is 00:42:31 but um the my my cellmate came down so oh whoops sorry they gave us um food jail food in the cell you ate in like a cafeteria in the cell they they shove it underneath the door and i took a bite and i literally spit it out into my napkin and i was repulsed and i was like oh my i think it was like some macaroni but it was it wasn't fucking macaroni and then a roll that was just not a fucking roll and then like meatloaf that was not fucking right right it was it was horrifying oh my god and i um my cellmate comes down from the bottom bunk this is the first time she's come down and she asked if she could have my plate of food that was the only thing she really said to me besides the other thing and i said sure and she took the train she went back up to her bunk and that was it she was really scary um i was really scared to be in there i was like what is she gonna do to me but anyways the food
Starting point is 00:43:36 is actually really really really fucking bad so oh back to jesse small yeah with my experience um i wouldn't go for sushi i would oh my god i would have to go i think steak i forgot the original question i've been so wrapped up in storytelling well you know what you remember alexis nyers pretty wild bling ring yes yes so she came on the show and she basically she struggled with addiction and at the height of her addiction is when she got arrested and she said she spent the first couple nights in jail going through withdrawal because obviously she didn't have any drugs in jail and the way she like the picture she painted she said literally the first night in prison like the picture she painted like I was just it was horrifying it's the scariest fucking
Starting point is 00:44:19 thing in the entire world I didn't know when I would get out. Right. They give you like little recess breaks. And besides that, you're in a tiny little cell. And all you have access to are like some bullshit books. Right. How old were you? That time? Well, you were underage drinking, right? Yes. So I want to say I was 18, 19.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Oh my, that's so young. Very young. It was like, it was the most traumatic thing and I couldn't talk to the outside world. The only person I could talk to was like a bail bondsman
Starting point is 00:44:51 and I was crying to him and he was very nice and he like calmed me down. I did make friends in there though. I did. You still talk to them? No, I didn't get their phone numbers. I think all of us
Starting point is 00:45:00 were a little bit distraught. Were they your age? There was one girl that I just, it was like a magnetic field that i went to her she was my age she didn't look like she had maybe murdered someone right you know um but they were nice in there okay you know there's definitely like clicks like they of course clicks in there right and i'm like sitting there i'm like fuck i don't know what click i belong in I don't know how long I'm gonna be in here can I ask you a question did you go to college yes and was applying to college like a journey was that on your record no but it's it's fucked
Starting point is 00:45:35 with other things that I've tried to get right like apartments not um actually yes because every time I get a background check right it does show up and it's, it's so minor. It's not a felony. I did get a felony, but it was taken off for forgery, which sounds really, really bad. Right. I was on the cover of busted newspaper, which was a Utah newspaper for anyone who got arrested that week it was at every 7-eleven every gas station all around utah i was the front cover it said i got arrested for forgery because i had used a fake id oh the drama the draw and people were like were you forging checks right that's what i work in finance right right and so it was just really messed up but it's utah there's
Starting point is 00:46:23 no crime and so they're just going after, you know. So it has like, it's followed you in your life quite a bit. And not, it hasn't been detrimental. But I mean, do you know what global entry is? Oh, you're not eligible? I applied and they denied me and I appealed it and they denied me again. Oh my God, is that why? I wrote like a three page essay as to why i shouldn't be held
Starting point is 00:46:45 like i shouldn't be getting in trouble for stuff i did eight years ago they don't care they don't want me on it they don't want me traveling globally that easily well can i tell you something i'm not a global entry member um and at certain airports and that's why i always fly internationally into jfk they have this thing called mobile passport it's an app that you download that nobody knows about and i don't even wish i was not blowing it up on the spot right now. The line is shorter than Global Entry. And you get through. My friend Brian, he's like a traveler.
Starting point is 00:47:09 He has Global Entry. When we travel internationally, I have my Mobile Passport. We get through in the same exact amount of time. No way. Yep. It's like as you're on the plane, you have like three hours before you land to fill out the information on Mobile Entry. And you just go right through.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Okay. My life has completely changed. Don't feel bad about it. I don't have global entry either. And I'm like a big traveler. And it's just because I'm too lazy to go to Brooklyn to do the appointment. Oh, I tried to get global entry for over a year. That's how like dedicated I was.
Starting point is 00:47:32 That is so interesting. Thank you for sharing all of that. I really appreciate it. Do you still like feel triggered by it? Like you have dreams about jail? No. Oh my God. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I was out of control. I probably deserve to like go in there, honestly. I feel like it's a lot of people. Like personally, my worst nightmare, like when I have crazy nightmares, it's about going to jail. It's like something I'm most afraid of. Yeah. And I think that's common for a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Being convicted wrongly of something is one of the worst things. It's not even about the trial. It's not about the crime. It's just being in prison. So you've kind of faced head on what I think a lot of people are like in their lives most afraid of. You're like a fucking scary ass bitch. It made me the woman I am today.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Hi, I'm wearing the hoodie. Oh yeah. your merch yes where can people get it they can get it sophiafranklin.com the the merch says our attorney will get us out of everything because i'm 18 years old i do not have an attorney my family does not have that type of money where I should be saying anything remotely near that. And when the police were arresting me, I told my friend to shut the fuck up that our attorney would get us out of everything. It's like something you probably saw on TV. Literally on TV. Literally probably thought it made me sound rich and cool. And it's so cringy.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And it's in my police report. The cop actually wrote it down. That is so cringy. I'm dying. Well, now you're making money off of it. Iconic. Iconic. It is. No, and you know what?
Starting point is 00:48:49 You are now in the perfect business because first of all, your life as someone who's been to prison, endless episodes. And nobody cares if you have a record when you're a podcaster. No one. I'm in the right business. That's for sure. How did you get the job in finance? That was actually tricky.
Starting point is 00:49:05 It was an issue. And I did have to write and explain. But also finance. I mean, they let some shit slide. No, I mean, everyone in finance goes to jail eventually. Yeah, actually. You just skipped a step. Okay, we've got one more story with Sophia.
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Starting point is 00:50:23 for Netflix because this might be the end of sharing Netflix passwords. No. Netflix knows you share your password and soon you might have to start paying for the privilege. Over the last year, Netflix has been working on a way to enable members who share outside their household to do so easily and securely while also paying a bit more. I like how they're making it seem like they're helping us. Like, you're going to do it more securely. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:50:47 Who cares? As a part of that effort, over the next two weeks, Netflix will roll out two test features in Chile, Costa Rica, and Peru called Extra Member and Profile Transfer. With Extra Member, people who subscribe to Netflix standard and premium plans can pay to add an account for up to two people they don't live with. Those extra members will have access just like any other Netflix account, including their own profile and login, but at a discounted rate. So you're still paying a membership. They don't understand. We don't need it to be all fancy.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Like people are using fucking Netflix passwords from people they dated 10 years ago. And it's like, no one's getting hurt. No one is getting hurt. They're using that as a coverup. No, they just raised their prices and then they made these like family plans. So like me and my family,
Starting point is 00:51:22 we all have different profiles. We're paying more. Like leave us alone. Leave us alone. us alone you have enough money i was just gonna say that i'm all about being greedy but netflix has enough money they've made enough questionable movies they paid literally adam sandler 300 million dollars for like a couple movies like they obviously have indispensable wealth like fuck off leave us alone leave us alone it ain't right oh my gosh do you think it's they're gonna really enforce it well they're gonna test it they are like netflix when you're that big no one's gonna
Starting point is 00:51:49 cancel their netflix over this because people can't live without netflix when you're that monopoly right we can't we can't do anything about it do you pay for your own netflix i don't pay for any streaming service i have everyone's password who's netflix do you use in my family like we all take on different things like i don't pay for netflix i don't pay for hulu but i do i think i pay for the hbo max okay i have there are some passwords that i logins that i don't even know who they are but mostly ex-boyfriends maybe maybe a couple from my mom spotify is my mom but the rest are just dudes it's like so annoying like now we're paying for so many subscriptions i still have cable cable. Are you a cable girly? Yes. Which cables you have in New York? Um, I got Bryson. That's a good one. Is that the, is that the better way to go than spectrum? So I have like a really warm
Starting point is 00:52:33 place in my heart for spectrum. It's like what I grew up with. That doesn't mean it's the best, but it's like the interface I'm most comfortable with. And it reminds me of home. I just like love it. And I switched out of it and I felt this like gaping hole in my heart for Spectrum. Wow. But if you are not a loser like me, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's some attachment. Verizon's like the fastest.
Starting point is 00:52:54 It's the best one. Okay. See, neither of those exist in Utah. So I had to just- What did you have in Utah? Xfinity? Xfinity. And then what is the other one?
Starting point is 00:53:01 There's another one. I don't know. Dish. Do you remember D dish with the satellite Xfinity is actually really good I like it it is yeah well I think Verizon's the best me too they don't have Xfinity here oh okay it's like a regional thing I think they have it in Boston but they don't have it here got it got it I don't know anyone who does I cannot believe you were that attached to I have issues but no but actually yeah no I love spectrum it's just like this random
Starting point is 00:53:24 thing that like brings me comfort like it just reminds me of like growing up with my sisters i know it's like really weird no that's so interesting i'm trying to think if there's some random like attachment i have to something were you the type of kid who like brought their own teddy bear blankets to sleepovers no no i just found out my husband podcast with me on tuesday that he was and he was that kid he grew up in the city and he left his bear in a cab after a sleepover and it was like the worst day of his life. Was he also the kid that in the middle of the night
Starting point is 00:53:48 would ask for his parents to pick him up? That's literally what I asked him, yes. And here's the real kicker. He was the kid in the middle of the night. Well, he was a kid who went to sleepovers, brought his own teddy bear and also brought his own fan. No.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yeah. Nope. A Honeywell black fan. Yeah, he brought it with him everywhere, he said. Like a face fan? No, like a stand-in fan. No. it with him everywhere he said like a face fan or like a standing fan yeah oh yeah claudia no no no no i swear to god to plug into the wall it's the cutest thing i've ever heard but like the crazy also just know like when my husband was younger he was like obese so like that's why he was probably really hot
Starting point is 00:54:19 he'll admit it to you he needed the fan wait how is it recording with him oh my god do you do it a lot no well i do it like jackie does it and i do it he always fills in for one of us and it's like we have a very interesting dynamic and like we're very we bicker um and then when you put that on a podcast people feel weird and they tell you your marriage is like trash and for me like i get so much shit for everything but like when people start um people tell you your marriage is trash like I'm so mean to Ben like you guys have a fucked up dynamic oh I mean of course when I that's like one thing I can't take heat on like I could really I have gotten shit backlash for you're sensitive about that I'm so so I try to honestly avoid we were
Starting point is 00:54:59 gonna do a podcast together because like it's so fun um but the critiques about my marriage like are so tough for me um so he was on the critiques about my marriage like are so tough for me um so he was on on Tuesday and like I was like literally acting like a different person like I'm just and it's not it's just who I am I'm like critical and like I joke I poke fun and so has been and like we're used to that dynamic but if you're new to you're just listening like you I guess you could be like Claudia's a bitch so I was just being protective of him on yeah on Tuesday like I was literally you should read the comments on this YouTube. Like people were like, who is this person?
Starting point is 00:55:28 Like you're like Honey Bear. I'm like, oh my God, you're so sweet. I love you. And that's just not how I am. Like I'm fucking I'm like this New York Jew. I'm very to the point. I'm tough. And it rubs people the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:55:40 So I honestly like I would love to podcast with him more. But I have like trauma. Well, I also like trauma well I also have trauma because of all that shit that happened and I'm really curious in my next relationship if I even want to make it public or not right no I know we spoke about that last time a little bit like it's definitely something that scarred you yes right and I don't know it's hard because it's you it's your life and so you want to share it with people. But you also need to protect certain things in your life.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah. So, I mean, what do you think? Well, I think it depends. Are you dating a celebrity? Are you dating a private person? I mean, if I'm dating a celebrity, that's going everywhere and it's elevating my celebrity. Right. Like how private is this person?
Starting point is 00:56:19 It depends on the person. And also they might have someone to say like, no, I don't want to be on it. You know? Yeah. I think that they would be totally down to be on it they're not a celebrity at all are you talking about a specific person in your life right now um just a teeny tiny bit oh okay so there is an actual person i thought we were being hypothetical there's we are being hypothetical because it's way too early and it takes me months and months and months to even be like i'm there yeah entertaining this honestly after what you've been through, like I wouldn't be shocked and I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:56:48 blame you for keeping that shit private. I think so, too. And I think I would be the same way as you. There's certain relationships that are it's protected. Yes. It's too much. And you'll never regret being private about it, but you will regret being public about it.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yeah. That's my sage advice. And I mean, I think I've heard stories from people saying being public about it can ruin a relationship no and like i know of youtubers who have like you know blown up their partners and then their partners get divorced and they're like now they have a platform to talk shit about you when you gave them that motherfucking platform right so honestly i'd say no okay i like that answer and i like you and i love you for being here thank you so much and thanks for sharing all that jail stuff that was super interesting um everyone sophia's podcast it's called Sophia
Starting point is 00:57:28 with an F she drops episodes every week it's so great you have tons of guests she's in New York now she's gonna be on the toast as much as we need her to be literally and yeah the merch is sophiafranklin.com your Instagram is just Sophia Franklin Sophia with an S Franklin with a Y you just said Sophia with an S oh fuck Sophia with an F Franklin with a Y Sophia Yanklin and I love you thank you for being here thank you anything else you want to promote um you know what I just found out what my TikTok handle was yesterday and I still don't know what it is it's Sophia Franklin zero yeah do you follow me back on TikTok because I'm always seeing your TikToks oh my god I don't know if I'm not I mean I think I do I think you should but I do a lot of time and effort oh my god I don't know if I'm not I mean I think I do I think
Starting point is 00:58:05 you should but I do a lot of time and effort into my TikTok I do have someone to help me in my TikTok okay so you have to forgive me but this was amazing Claudia you're like the best I really really want to come back your TikTok is playing I'm on TikTok right now because I'm so bored just kidding I really want to um do it with Jackie I know I know she'll probably be like back in the podcasting space in like one or two months but let's give her I don't know maybe more maybe less
Starting point is 00:58:29 no we're not we're not we're not putting pressure on women no we don't do that no thank you guys so much for listening to The Morning Toast
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