The Toast - S5 Ep34: Questioning Every Fart with Ben Soffer: Thursday, March 24th, 2022

Episode Date: March 24, 2022

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Thursday. Happy what should be the fourth episode of the week, but it's only the second because, and I'm so glad, this worked out perfectly. I'm so glad that you were scheduled to be the co-host today because we have to come on and discuss what we've been through. Yes. So Ben is here. He was already scheduled to be here. But before we dive in and do anything, like we have something to say. We've been hit. No, we've seen hell. The devil entered my body. Our home was hit earlier this week with the notovirus, which apparently is a thing that everyone knows about. We didn't know. It's like the seasonal stomach flu but apparently this year's is a real bitch we okay so over the weekend we went out on Saturday Saturday night we go to bed and Ben is up all night both ends and we're like what the fuck honestly I didn't really take it seriously. I was going to say, we're not anything. Claudia is asleep as I am hurling, shitting.

It's bad. Like, again, I can't stress enough. She said both ends. Both ends. And so I thought it was food poisoning. So I was more than happy to help when I woke up. I was very helpful. Yes, you were.

When you woke up, you were helpful. I wasn't worried about getting anything from you because I thought, I was very helpful. Yes, you were. When you woke up, you were helpful. I wasn't worried about, you know, getting anything from you because I thought it was fucking food poisoning. Yes, it was not. And then Monday, after the show, I'm like sitting here typing, like putting an episode up,

and I feel as though I've been hit by a bus. I'm like, oh my God, I have to go home. So I'm in the Uber with like my head hanging out the window because like I needed fresh air. I'm like, I think I'm gonna vomit. And I get home and I literally collapse in my bed for four hours I just fell asleep which is I mean I love to nap but that's insane like one o'clock and I woke up at five o'clock and it was over like it had started the devil had entered me as well and my like I just can't and it was literally 36 hours of nonstop torture.

I haven't had a, I mean, I must look, we must look so thin. Like, what we've been through. I haven't eaten a full meal, seriously, since Sunday. I lost 12 pounds. It's so crazy. I actually, if you look at my Google search, it's literally how to use a virus to start a diet. Jumpstart a diet. Like, how do you use it to jumpstart and leave the weight off?

And what I read is that you can't puke fat. So like that doesn't like, it's not like really a thing. No, it's not. Like we will bounce back to our original weights. No, but when I tell you, again, I've been instructed not to get too graphic. Because what we witnessed in each other this weekend. So I will not get overly graphic. in each other this weekend. So I will not get overly graphic,

but what I will say is that at one point, early Saturday morning, six in the morning, I'm hurled over the toilet and all of a sudden, Stop, stop. I just take a huge...

Stop, stop, stop. Hey! Stop. Seriously. Stop. Stop, stop, stop. Like, that's too much. I told you not to get too graphic

and that's the most graphic part of it. So what are you doing? Dump. Ben! No. On, what is that thing called? No, part of it. So what are you doing? Dump. Ben. On what is that thing called? No, just shut up. Seriously, shut up. The floor.

Ben, shut up. It was just, we've seen things in each other that we can never unsee. No, we can't. I do feel as though our marriage is stronger than ever. It is. And just know that there were lots of clothing, lots of clothing, lots of towels, lots of garbage bags, lots of heating pads that we had to throw out. Let's just stick with that. Fine.

I think that's a good assessment of everyone needing to know what went down. Yes, yes. Rest in peace to that heating pad. Just know. It really, it didn't deserve what it got. No, what you did. And then, by the way, Ben ruined the heating pad. I love that you're literally talking in circles around it.

Yeah, of course. I shit on the heating pad. She gave me a heating pad to help me. Shut up, shut up. I woke up. I woke up. Shut up. And I shit on it.

So shut up. Ben, by the way, I have like a $60 heating pad that's so big. Ben ruined it. And when I thought he had food poisoning, I was like, you know what? I'll get myself another one and it'll be okay. Then I had to

go through the devil's disease without my fucking heating pad. No, you had a heating pad. You got me a shitty one from Walgreens that was literally, literally four inches by four inches. My heating pad at home is literally like 36 by 36. No, it's an unbelievable heating pad. It's sickening. Yeah, it was ruined. It's like as big as this couch.

It's huge. It's huge. And it was ruined. So to go through the notovirus without my unbelievable heating pad. Sickening. Yeah, it was ruined. It's like as big as this couch. It's huge. It's huge. And it was ruined. So to go through the notovirus without my stupid heating pad, like that was crippling. I'm just saying people are like COVID, noto. Ben, I was thinking the same thing. The way that the entire like economy world shut down for COVID, like this is worse. This is worse. And apparently this happens every year.

And literally just by being in the same room as someone transferred, not six feet, 600 feet transferred. It was, I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, this is what we should be shutting down for as well. This is crippling. And literally the out both ends of it all, I promise could kill every, every senior citizen. They're dead. They get this, they're dead. You guys like, okay. So here's the thing. This is an informative podcast. So the first thing I want to say is that if someone in your household is like starting to feel nauseous, like it's not food poisoning, it's highly contagious and hunker down. First of all, I didn't even know this thing existed. Like if I had known, I would have just like approached it differently. I had no idea. The second thing I want to tell you, like if it does, and I now know people who are getting it and everyone's DMing me.

So here is like my number one tip and it's such a good tip. And unfortunately I had to learn from you not having this tip. If you catch this virus and you find yourself like having to puke, please do yourself a favor and sit on the toilet while you puke.

Puke into a garbage bag, a garbage bin, puke on the floor. Literally do anything else. Do not remove your ass from the toilet because you will regret it. Okay? That's all I have to say. And just justice for the girls out there who go through this virus while on their period because the whole thing, the time I was thinking like if I had my period right now like I would just I would I would not be okay. Yes. And. Dramamine.

Amodium. Amodium. Pedialyte. Yeah, see, I have a problem with Pedialyte. I know you do. You were like watering down your Pedialyte. Pedialyte is so sugary. It's like disgusting. Electrolytes.

No, but you can get Electrolytes. Electrolytes are like salt. Electrolytes aren't sugar. I don't think Electrolytes are salt. Oh, really? Yeah. Are they? Okay. Google it aren't sugar. I don't think electrolytes are salt. Oh, really? Yeah. Are they? Okay.

Google it. Google it. I don't think so. I'm pretty sure electrolytes are salt. No, they're like neutrons, you know? Protons. Jimmies? Are they?

Salt. Is it salt? No. Wow, you're so smart. I'm so proud of you. Yeah, I am. They're definitely not fruit punch. Well, it was strawberry-flavored Pedialyte because it's for kids.

Yeah, it was way too much i thought it tasted disgusting and i need pedialyte to make a watered down version that has just as much electrolytes but it's drinkable they do they have like pedialyte light they have like pedialyte popsicles oh they do yeah they have like a ton of different i just got the only one that gopuff had because like we were fucking desperate so you're welcome by the way also shout out gopuff oh shout out gopuff literally life-saving technology. 15 minutes, I got the Imodium. 15 minutes, I got the Dramamine.

15 minutes, I got the Saltines. 15 minutes, you could get the Spritz. In California. Only. Only, okay. For now. For now. Okay, so I feel as though we've grossed everyone out enough.

That is where we were at. I apologize for missing both episodes of The Toast. Like, of course, Jackie leaves it up to me to do The Toast and I get the stomach flu. But I'm back. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not a hundred percent, but I can now sit here for an hour and not crap my pants. So, that's why we're here. Thank you to everyone. I'm really sorry for missing both episodes, but we're back. And we are gonna do Dear Toasters today because we were supposed to do it on Wednesday's episode. So, Ben is gonna join me. We've got lots of news since it's been a few

days. We've got Dear Toasters and we've been a few days. We've got to your toasters. And we've got Ben. And honestly, that's all we need. Agreed. And the fact that you're even apologizing, if you guys could see her, this woman was sick as a dog. Did you feel bad for me? Here's the deal. I didn't feel.

No, no. I felt bad for you, certainly. Because you gave it to me. See, this is the narrative that I don't like. You gave it to me. But somebody gave it to me. Yeah, of course. narrative that i don't like you gave it to me like somebody gave it to me yeah of course but you brought it into our house like what were you doing on saturday that you like what where were you hanging out that you picked up you were together yeah exactly what were you doing i don't know being together no you brought it home maybe you picked it up gave it to me and then i gave it back to you and the first time you

got it yeah you didn't have symptoms. Yeah. That's what happened. Okay. That's what happened. Okay. You brought it home. Thank you so much. And anything else you want to say about the disease before we go?

No, it's a terrible disease. I'm telling you, I'm still like 80%. It's just, it really takes your soul. Oh, it crushes your spirit. It's gone. It's gone. My spirit is gone. My will to live, like, it was just awful. No, it's spirit. It's gone. It's gone. My spirit is gone. My will to live.

Like, it was just awful. No, it's bad. It's bad. And also, like, there's a real joy in life when you feel like you're going to have, like, a nice fart. Like, it's really nice to fart. Like, if you need to fart, fart. Everybody. If farting is good for you, it's healthy. If you need a fart, it feels great.

Sometimes a fart can change your day around. And sometimes, not sometimes, now this disease has taken the fart from me because now I'm afraid every single time I'm like, oh, that's a fart. Nope. Maybe you're shitting your pants. No, you're questioning every fart now. I'm questioning every fart. I'm so sorry.

This disease made me question every fart. You'll get your spirit back. Don't worry. I don't know. I think you will. I'll never fart the back. Don't worry. I don't know. I think you will. I'll never fart the same. We're different people, like 100%. We are.

But we have enough of a spirit to do today's show. Thank you, Ben, for joining us again. Of course. Last time you were here, the reviews were rave. They always are. And when Josh Peck was here on Friday, so many people, first of all, they loved the episode. And they also said they totally see how you and Josh Peck are best friends because we got many people, first of all, they loved the episode and they also said they totally see how you and Josh Peck are best friends

because we got so many comments saying how similar you guys were. Yeah, I mean, Josh is the best. The best. Number one. You gonna read his book? Of course.

When? I don't know. Look, I don't read books. I read Claudia's book. That was the first book that I read since I read half of, what's that book

that turned into? Curious Incident of the Dog in the Middle of the Night. I read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night. Great Night. I read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night. Great book. You only read half? No, I think I read the whole thing. Who ended up killing the dog?

I don't remember. The guy's dad. Yeah, I remember. And then there was a wonderful Broadway show that Claudia said she hated. Ben said he saw this Broadway show. He's like, remember that book, Curious Incident? They turned it into a Broadway show.

You guys should see it. So what do we do? We buy tickets for the whole family. We're sitting in this plane. We're like, we have been Curious Incident? They turned it into a Broadway show. You guys should see it. So what do we do? We buy tickets for the whole family. We're sitting in this play and we're like, we have been hoodwinked. This is trash! So that's the last time we ever take a Broadway recommendation from you. Interesting. Okay, let's dive in because we've got a lot to cover. In today's... no? Here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast.

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Did you know that? Yeah. Didn't that happen like a couple days ago? Well, we haven't done the show since Monday. Oh, true. True, true, true. So Kylie Jenner shares a new photo of her baby boy before announcing that his name is no longer Wolf.

Yeah. So she posted this really, really sweet documentary that they put together. They did it for Stormy, too. On her YouTube channel. It was really sweet. I did find myself tearing up when all the sisters were just talking to the camera, giving Kylie advice.

And then she wrote, FYI, our son's name isn't Wolf anymore. Emoji, emoji. We just really didn't feel like it was him. Just wanted to share because I keep seeing Wolf everywhere. Yeah, you keep seeing Wolf everywhere because you told us that was his name and then you didn't tell us you changed it. So, of course, that's what we're going to say. Totally.

You tell us it's the kid's name, we're going to go with that. Correct. So, I feel like we need to normalize changing your mind. Yeah. It's not that crazy. We did it. Right. We got our beautiful Theo.

I looked at him and I said, because, again, by the way, I think that it's a lovely origin story, his name. We call each other Moof, Moofie. Mufon. It was a perfect name for our son, Moofie. But obviously, that's a horrific name for a dog. So after naming him Moofie, we switched to Theo because he is obviously a Theo. Yeah, that was like a weird thing we did.

It was, it was. But it normalized changing your mind. And that was with a dog thing we did. It was. It was. But normalize changing your mind. And that was with a dog. Like imagine a real human. Oh my god I'll never look at you the same. No but you know what I mean. That was with a dog. No but like a child's name follows them throughout their life. It has so much meaning. It's like how people perceive them. Sometimes kids get bullied. Ben Soccer. Like you know. Yeah do you know how much Theo would have been bullied if his name was Moofie? He's a completely different dog. Bullied by who?

That dog that tried to hurt him at the park. Remember that one time? No. Remember when Theo was under siege? Yes. That was not good. That red rocket almost went right in his booty. Yeah.

It was terrible. But with a kid, like, it's really important. And so when we were, like, helping Jackie pick out names for Harry, like, it's such a huge undertaking. Like, I don't know how you name a child. It's also so stressful. Like, every single time I said a name, like, I just know that it was bothering them. Yeah, totally. Like, they...

It was very tense. Like, parents don't really want your recommendations on names. They don't. It's a discussion, but, like, it's, like, it's their child. It's their decision. Like, you know? So true. No, it's a discussion but like it's like it's their child it's their decision like you know no it's so true like it's like oh we were talking about it but like i don't think our opinions had any weight no honestly the opposite if i recommended a name they automatically hated gone yeah no you're oh ben's wreck nope i also think like it is

us overstepping to like suggest names for sure it's not our kid no i'm not in our business actually i was gonna ask you what. Excuse me. The coughing? I forgot to take my Zyrtec this morning. Oh. No, really. Zyrtec, please send me more.

I don't want you to say like what names you like because like people are always stealing names. Like what names do you like? Hmm. Are you like a name? Boy or girl? Let's go. Oh, no.

By the way, I can't. People are going to steal it. Yeah. But do you have like names in your back? I have some names that I like. You do? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

I have some names that I like. Give me one. No, we like the same names. We do? We've spoken about some names. Okay. We're on the same name length. Yeah, totally, totally.

Trademark that. Name length. Name length. So, happy for Kylie, normalize changing your mind. These are really big decisions to make and sometimes you name your kid and the kid comes out and it's like, you're not a wolf no but by the way no one has ever birthed a child and they were a wolf yeah it's such like an intense name yeah like i'm sorry i agree you should be able to be renamed wolf at like the age of 16 you know it's grow up. Are you a wolf or are you not a wolf? Because if you are,

then your name could be wolf. You can't grow into a wolf. No, yeah. Like, you either are... Or you're not. I completely agree. Yeah, it's a really crazy name. And there's only one wolf in the world.

Do we know what name they've chosen? No, that's the thing. She hasn't told us yet. Yeah, that is the only wolf. Taylor Lautner's the only wolf. But she hasn't told us the new name

and I'm just, like, quaking. Like, what is it? Like, is she gonna stick with the same, like, intense the new name and I'm just like quaking. Like what is it? Like is she going to stick with the same like intense vibe? Or maybe he's not an intense child.

You know maybe he's like super peaceful so his name will be like you know Solomon. You know what's interesting? They named their

daughter Stormy and Stormy when you think about it is an intense word. Storm. But they put the I softened it and now it's like a sweet word. So maybe they were planning on doing the same with wolf,

where it was like an intense word, but make it less intense. That's an interesting analysis. I never thought of it that way. You know, like maybe like take the— Thunder. But with a silent K. Yeah, take the fear out of wolf. Maybe with W-O-L-P-H.

Ooh, even though she did say W-O-L-F. Yeah, I mean, she should have listened to me. That's stunning. I like that a lot. Yeah, I think that's a good take. I like it. So we'll just be sitting here with, you know, our fingers up our ass waiting for her to tell us the new name. I'm not doing that ever again.

Okay. Let's go into some conservatorship news. I know you're a really big fan of Amanda Bynes. And she has been flooded. I'm not a big fan of Amanda Bynes, but I do often reference her. You're not? I was a fan. This new Amanda.

Ben, don't be mean. She's going through a hard time. You really think so? Yes. Well, listen. I know you haven't been keeping up, but let me tell you. She's been flooded with TV offers. Now her conservatorship has ended.

So she's been in a conservatorship like Britney Spears. Like, look at us, always putting women in boxes. Like, do you know what I mean? Men Now her conservatorship has ended. So she's been in a conservatorship like Britney Spears. Like look at us always putting women in boxes. Like do you know any men in a conservatorship? No. Wendy Williams is about to be put in one. Always with the successful women. So a different kind of Amanda Cho could be on the way. Anyone and everyone in the TV industry has been trying to get a hold of Amanda Bynes after the termination of her conservatorship, her lawyer revealed on Wednesday. He said, while Amanda's being flooded with interview offers, most of which came pouring in over the last few days she's not ready to talk and is laying low for a while her lawyer shared that several production companies have also reached out to Amanda's team about filming documentaries or a potential reality show on her life moving forward um so according to her lawyer the New York Times LA Times Wall Street Journal Vanity Fair L

CBS Nudes Gayle King and Logan Paul are among those who have pitched interviews with the former actress. That's according to TMZ. And she hasn't allegedly been offered any book deals, even though that will definitely be coming soon. So the Superior Court judge agreed to end her conservatorship of her and her estate nearly nine years after it was established to protect the star from her struggles with mental health and substance abuse in the last several

years she said I've been working hard to improve my health so that I can live and work independently and I will continue to prioritize my well-being in the next chapter I'm excited about my upcoming endeavors including my fragrance line and I look forward to sharing more when I can to me Amanda Bynes is like we always we make an example out of like Britney Spears and I feel like not a lot of people talk about Amanda Bynes because she kind of like really went low-key under the radar. I didn't even know she was in a conservatorship. No I just thought that she was batshit crazy.

But she's not. Like she was she went through a hard time and like literally her freedom was taken away. But the good thing about this is from what I understand is that like her family's totally on her side and she's like on good terms. Whereas like with Britney, her family was like taking advantage of her and draining her money and they were the ones trying to keep her in the conservatorship. So I'm really happy. I hope she's in a good place. Like I I think like she I was talking about this with Josh Peck on Friday. She like we were robbed of one of the greatest

comedic actresses of our generation. Loved her. Because I think like the media was so mean to her. It got to her. Her mental health like was not a priority for her team. And like I just think we were so robbed of an Amanda Bynes career. Yeah. Your favorite movie.

She's the man. She's the man. The best movie. And like if you watch it, and it's like a funny, silly movie, but if you watch it like keeping a keen eye on Amanda Bynes, like it's Oscar worthy. What was that movie where she's a princess? And her no her dad is a is the like King of England.

Yes. What a Girl Wants. Oh great movie. What a Girl Wants. Also a great movie. What a Girl... great movie. Like she had banger after banger after banger. I mean she's the same as Hilary Duff like what's the except funnier. No she's in my opinion like more of a star than Hilary Duff.

Yeah she could have been. Mm-hmm. She could have been. So honestly like as much in my opinion, like more of a star than Hilary Duff. Yeah. She could have been. She could have been. So honestly, like as much as I would love to see a return to the screen, like I just want peace for Amanda Bynes. Like I just want her, you know, to have her money. I hope she can just like retire peacefully, fall in love, take care of her mental health. Like I just, I'm really happy about this. The most shocking part about what you read is that she's launching a fragrance line.

Yeah. And it's like, what is read is that she's launching a fragrance line. Yeah. And it's like, what is wrong with people that are pitching celebrities fragrance lines? Like, who's going to buy the Amanda Bynes post-conservership fragrance? Well, the thing is... Why can't you make something that's actually unique to her? The thing is, is that I think Amanda Bynes just might be, like, stunted a little in... Like, when she came up, when she was like 16, 17, 18, and she was a huge star, fragrances were making billions of dollars. Kim Kardashian, every celebrity had a fragrance.

Like the first big thing Kim ever did after, like outside of her sisters was a fragrance. Like there was a time where fragrances were literally like gold mines. So I think that because she hasn't worked in a while and she's been like in this conservatorship, I think she might be stunted a little and just like where she thinks like celebrity brands are.

And maybe she's like still stuck in like the 2000s. That's what I think. I think that there's no shot that that was her idea. Oh, I mean, I don't know. I hope she's in charge of her own business now. There's no way that she said, end conservatorship i'm launching a fragrance i actually like i could see that for amanda she's not like other girls

interesting i love her like i will buy the fragrance i will support well that's nice of you yeah i won't be buying the fragrance but if she launched i don't know a soccer brand yeah totally like a line of jerseys line of jerseys from homage to she's the man yeah like bring back the old amanda like welcome to aleria hold on welcome to aleria welcome welcome welcome welcome welcome welcome welcome welcome welcome welcome to aleria it's a gorgeous instrument. It's gorgeous. Yeah.

Where'd you get it? It was a gift, actually. Thank you so much. And it's from Tree Works, made in Nashville, Tennessee, USA. It's awesome. We love supporting USA companies. It's awesome. So, yes, Amanda Bynes is free.

We look forward to seeing what she does, supporting her and giving her all of our love and support. Yes. You agree? Love her. Okay. Rooting for her. I don't know why I thought you were, like, the biggest Amanda Bynes fan. Because you grew up on Amanda Show.

I loved Amanda Bynes. Then Amanda Bynes seemingly fell off a cliff. I feel terrible now understanding what she went through. But it certainly shook i haven't i haven't thought like my amanda bines is stuck 12 years right right like there's no i haven't heard about her like at least britney's struggles were very so public public which made us constantly question everything is she okay is it her is it her family? What's going on? And now we've led sort of to a place. This huge movement.

This huge movement. There was a hashtag. No, Amanda Bynes, I fell by the wayside. She just fell off a cliff. No, and like. No one spoke about her. Nobody heard of her. I randomly just saw a video of her with blue hair and like a bull nose ring.

Yeah, and she had like a heart tattoo on her face. And she just like looked again like different you but looked completely different and and you can anybody can change their vibe but yeah but she just didn't feel like funny or no it was like it's not funny anymore it's not funny anymore yeah it felt very dark um okay well rooting for her always always rooting for man but like come on fragrances and also like if you're looking for an interview, like we will have you at the morning test. All right. Next up, page six.

This is like huge news. I don't know if you'd give a shit, but Bravo is rebooting Real Housewives of New York with a new cast. Oh, I care. Completely new cast? And a second show with ex-Housewives. Ah. So if you haven't been keeping up, like the Real Housewives of New York has just been

slowly unraveling. Like it went from a decent show. No, it went from a great show to a decent show. if you haven't been keeping up, like the Real Housewives of New York has just been slowly unraveling. Like it went from a decent show, no, it went from a great show to a decent show to like a bad show to an unwatchable show to a show that was so low in ratings that Bravo didn't even film a reunion with them. Like they didn't even think it was worth spending the money. Like it was just so messy.

It was so bad. And so they're looking, and so with a lot of the OG shows like The Real Housewives of Orange County, they've been on for so long that a lot of them are getting to this place where it's like trash, like it's unwatchable. And they're doing different things. With Orange County, they brought back someone who was beloved. They cut a few people, added some new people, got rid of some OGs.

And like, it's not great, but it's better. But I don't think they were going to take that approach with New York because it wasn't a big enough turnaround in ratings and in entertainment. So now what they've decided to do is to get rid of everyone, start with a new cast. They said they're looking for people who are potentially related, people who are actually friends. I don't know who that's going to be.

But then they're also going to keep, because there's so many gems on the show. Ramona people love, Sonya, Luann, ex-housewives like Dorinda, Jill Zarin, people feel very connected to. They're gonna have a second show like a spin-off for all the old spinsters. Now, while this sounds like a good idea, I'm not really sure how the the cure for a show with low ratings is to start two shows. Like you can barely get good ratings for one show. Now you're going to do two? Yeah. I'm not sure.

And the second show sounds like they just don't want to fire all those ladies, so they're just going to give them some show. Maybe it'll be on Peacock. Peacock has actually been really good for Bravo. It's a very strange story. Yeah, I don't think this is the answer, honestly. It's strange because if you want high ratings just bring on like one mega New York person but I

guess maybe they didn't want to maybe like the real popular people like don't want to do a show with like these crazies. It's very hard to get women in New York like the Real Housewives of New York at the beginning it really they did a good job with some of the women getting like legit rich people. Like Luann de Lesseps, we know her now as like cabaret star who gets kicked out of bars. But when she was on the show, she was an actual count, countess excuse me. Her husband was a count. They had a stunning townhouse on the Upper East Side. Like huge estate in the Hamptons, a driver. Things have changed. And now like all the women on the show are essentially has-beens.

Like Sonia Morgan was married to J.P. Morgan's grandson, but is not anymore. And she has a townhouse that's like being held together by a thread. It's like not real rich New Yorkers because the actual like old money people in New York, they don't want to be on the show. Of course not. It's trash. Yeah. So it's impossible for them to cast.

They should really get some influencers. Like they should get the charnas girls like something navy and her sisters yeah that's a good idea like their moms they're married they're very successful in their own right their sisters like they would be great just i don't know what they're gonna do jackie jackie yes jackie would never but like like by the way she would never until she got an offer no she would literally you gotta think about it jackie would never she wouldn't even think about it no like 100 not i would think about it but she wouldn't she wouldn't even think about it no interesting no like 100 now but so like they just need fresh they need new this is a problem that housewives as an industry is running into like they they're kind of aging out. Like people like Olivia was the first person on the planet to watch

Housewives. She was obsessed and she hasn't watched in years. Like it's just it's dry. It's kind of stale. Even when it's good it's not like great. And I just don't think that this is the answer. I do think what they did with Real Housewives of Miami was great. Real Housewives of Miami was a show that was on Bravo for like two or three seasons. No, three, maybe three or four. It was good. It didn't have like huge ratings, but it was really good. It got canceled, obviously.

And then eight years later, they brought it back on Peacock. Larsa Pippen's on it. They got sick people, actual money. And it's really good. Yeah, but it's funny. If you think about it in a sports analogy, athletes don't play forever. Right. They get replaced by young

talented athletes like you retire like the I think I think the biggest problem is that these if these women are past their time no you're being ageist it's not about that because it's not about age it's really not like some of the best housewives are in their 60s and the women who are in their 30s are trash it's not about age it's really not it's about first of all it's about money like when you come onto the show and you have the biggest house, the nicest cars, like, it gives you status. And for some reason in the last couple years, Bravo has not been able to cast women with real money. It's all a facade. And they get into legal trouble.

Jen Shah, Teresa Giudice, Erika Jayne. Like, they get into this legal trouble. So I think the first thing is money. And it really doesn't have to do with age. Like, hate her or love her. Lisa Vanderpump was one of the biggest pot-stirring bitches in the country and she's the oldest housewife she was in her 60s i wasn't implying age i was saying that everybody has a moment in time oh okay and it's very difficult to keep a moment in time for more than 10 years yeah agreed move on like like get get a. Again, that person can be 80 and cool.

But there's just so much sentiment. We feel so connected. They don't want to let go of Ramona, even though people have problems with her and she's not great anymore. You're connected. No, I know. No, I mean, you'll still keep up with her.

Yeah. You can see her other places. Yeah. Maybe what they do is they start bringing OG housewives to reunions. There's a new New York housewife. What is that? New York housewife?

New York. Housewife of New York. You know when you say a word? 100%. And you're like, is that it? Like, is the a word? When you say a word so many times, it's like garage, garage, garage. That literally just happened to me? Yeah.

But why can't they bring her, like, back on, like, a future reunion show? Like, you have, like, the OG housewife there. Yeah, there's a way to keep the women. Like, maybe she's, like, hosting the reunion. Well, no, but I know what you mean. Yeah, they keep, like, housewives who are no longer on the show. They come on Watch Happens Live. They do these big Watch Happens Live in LA specials.

Keep them in the ecosystem. Yeah, now they're doing Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip with old Real Housewives and the Berkshires. Yeah, you're right. They could keep them in the stratosphere. Without keeping them in the main show. Agreed.

You're right. I just don't, I don't think this is the answer for Bravo. I don't. But I'm happy that they're trying out different things for all these franchises

that are like starting to expire. Yeah. And we'll see what works. OC didn't really work. It worked fine, but not great. I don't know if this is going to work. So we'll see what works. I think what really worked. It worked fine, but not great. I don't know if this is going to work. So we'll see what works. I think what really worked was with Real Housewives of Miami.

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and win a cash prize. So the network has greenlit Claim to Fame, a competition show in which 12 people related to celebrities, quote, step outside their famous family member's shadow and live together under one roof, concealing their identity and lineage in the quest for their own fame and fortune. Brothers Kevin and Frankie Jonas will host the show, which come from the Love is Blind producers, Kinetic Content, and Disney's television, and Walt Disney. So Claim to Fame will be a Big Brother-style competition in which 12 players are isolated from the outside world, compete in challenges, and form alliances to stay in the game. Keeping the identities of their famous relatives a secret will also be a key part of the gameplay.

The show marks a return to Disney for Kevin Jonas, who along with his brothers Nick and Joe rose to fame in the 2000s with the help from Disney Channel. I kind of think that this is like a really good idea. It's definitely interesting. Yeah, first of all. What is the game? Like what is that?

So do you ever watch Big Brother? Me neither, but they put people in a house, and there's all these challenges, and it's like mental warfare. You have to get other people eliminated while also creating alliances. People really like it, and it's very interesting. So I think having it be like Celebrity Offspring is really cool. By the way, this concept of people really liking shows, so we will like it. People really like Love is Blind.

That show is trash. No, but I have a feeling if I watched Celebrity Big Brother, I would will like it. People really like Love is Blind. That show is trash. No, but I have a feeling if I watched Celebrity Big Brother, I would really like it. Okay. It honestly sounds like Celebrity Big Brother because most of the people in Celebrity Big Brother are not really famous. It's like Frankie Grande, Ariana Grande's brother.

By the way, this is also Celebrity Big Brother, but without needing to pay celebrities, but still being able to use their names. Totally. They literally are just hoodwinking everyone. Totally. It's like, I don't want to pay celebrities, but still being able to use their names. Totally. They literally are just hoodwinking everyone. Totally. It's like, I don't want to pay Nick and Jonas, so I'm going to pay Kevin and Hoosie.

Nick and Jonas. What did I say? Cute. Who's Nick and Jonas and Kevin and Hoosie? What did you just say? I don't want to pay Nick and Joe, so I'm going to pay Kevin and Frankie and nonstop talk about Nick and Joe.

Right. No, no. You're right. This is kind of like pulling the talk about Nick and Joe. Right. No, no. You're right. This is kind of like pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. Yeah. They literally cut the budget into- Less. Yeah.

I also am really curious who they're going to cast. Like, is it going to be people like, okay, we know who Frankie Grande is, or is it going to be like actual people who have never been seen? Like me, I heard, you know, Ashton Kutcher has a cousin, you know? That's who it's going to be. Yeah. It would be really funny

if like six months later something comes out in the news like somebody lied about their relation to the celebrity. You know, I'll go on the show. I'm Sienna Miller's

long lost sister. It's true. That's actually really funny. And I wonder if the celebrities are going to be involved at all. Definitely. I think not, actually. Maybe for like the winner. Yeah maybe maybe. I think it's and I like that they have Frankie and Kevin hosting. It's fun.

Because Frankie Grande has become like a major TikTok star in recent couple years. I think he has like three million followers. The Gen Z's love him. Obviously what is our generation? X. Millennials love Kevin. And I think that this is great. I think it's actually like a really good idea. And I actually might watch it. Depending on who the people are. Like if I have no idea who they are,

I might not. But if it's like, you know, I don't know why I keep thinking of Frankie Jonas, but like a relatively kind of known person. Like who is a cousin of a celeb? Yeah, I don't know. Is it like total nobodies? I need more clarity.

I can't think of one. Yeah, no, me neither. And that makes sense because they're a celebrity's cousin. Why would you know? Okay. They have to be total nobodies. Yeah, I think so too. So like who cares?

So it's not even celebrity Big Brother. It's just Big Brother withbodies. Yeah, I think so too. So like who cares? So it's not even Celebrity Big Brother. It's just Big Brother with random people. Big Brother with random people. Who happen to be like loosely related. Loosely related. To like influencers and celebrities. Yeah, it's like one of those like my cousin's sister's boyfriend. Right, was in the army.

Exactly. Totally. Well, best of luck. And I'm happy that Frankie and Kevin are getting work outside of singing. Best of luck. Best of luck. All right, our fifth and final story is some Jeffrey Epstein news. His pedophile island has hit the market for $125 million.

So his two private islands, commonly referred to as Pedophile Island due to allegations that he sexually abused girls as young as age 11, is set to list for a whopping $125 million. The New York Post can confirm. It's located in the U.S. Virgin Islands, and they're known geographically as Great St. James and Little St. James. The islands have been fairly untouched since Epstein's death in 2019. That wasn't a suicide. According to Epstein's estate lawyer,

the proceeds from the sale are expected to go toward resolving any outstanding lawsuits, regular costs of operating the island, and other fees including taxes, creditors, liens placed on the properties by the U.S. Virgin Islands Attorney General. And what's interesting is that Epstein purchased the Little St. James Island, which is over 70 acres, in 1998 for $7.9 million. Wow. And now it's worth $125 million. $125 million.

Yeah. Who the fuck would buy this? Even if you really want a private island, like you're rich enough, and you're shopping, and there's a sale, let's go to this one. And it's obviously a little discounted because of all the shit that went down there. I don't think I could ever, even though it's pretty sickening. So one, the US Virgin Islands,

it's dog shit in comparison to the British Virgin Islands. So true. You're going to spend your money? Go British. You're right. Two, it's not discounted. It actually seems like it's a premium. Well, what are 70 acre islands going for now that have estates and mansions already built on it?

It's a discount. You're right. It has to be discounted. It has to be very discounted. No one would pay top dollar for this. No. The thing is, can you ever get the feeling or smell off the island? It's kind of like buying a house that somebody was murdered in.

Yeah, it's worse. Even if you murdered in. Yeah, it's worse. Even if you bulldoze it, it's creepy. Hearing the stories of the girls who would literally jump off the cliff to try and swim and it was like sharks everywhere. It was horrible. Yeah, but now that I am thinking about it, like a hotel chain, $125 million, you turn that into a sickening

property. I don't think any consumer would really feel comfortable spending money there. It's so creepy. Maybe enough time hasn't passed. I was going think any like any consumer would really feel comfortable spending money there. Like it's so creepy. Maybe enough time hasn't passed. I was gonna say I wonder if like okay so now it's Pito Island. Once it's re-bought, re-branded, most people don't know the coordinates of the island. Like they're just like they see like oh Marriott has a new property. Right. And they go they don't know what it was. Yeah. Like, we don't know what was anything. You know, I'll be very interested to see, like, what happens here.

If, you're right, like, a Marriott buys it. I just don't think anyone wants a bad press. Like, it's not worth having one good hotel to have, like, oh, yeah, we paid $125 to pay off Jeffrey Epstein's taxes. The problem is the press. Yeah. If the press wasn't involved and somebody could just buy it and... But I don't think anyone would even want that. Like, it's so creepy.

It's creepy now. I'm saying it's just, it's land. Like, before it was, Peto Island was probably like the most gorgeous, beautiful... It's little St. James. Yeah, it's just... It's so weird. Yeah, it's weird. It's so creepy.

What a conundrum. I know. Discounted island. And he's so creepy. What a conundrum. I know. Discounted island. And he has all these homes, like crazy estates. Like the one on the Upper East Side, I think it's like 78th and Madison. It's like this huge... That's where he was arrested. Like where they found all this evidence, all these tapes.

Like that's a stunning piece of architecture. It's literally like a landmark. It's one of these old townhouses. Like who the fuck would want to buy that? That should just turn into like a government building. Yeah, like there's just not... I don't think there's a buyer for these places. He has all these crazy estates. One in like Cleveland. Like, it's crazy. What if he turned it into like... And he didn't have kids, right? What if he turned it into like a school? Yeah, I mean... No? A school? Yeah. I mean no

a school yeah I get what you're saying but like for no no no no no

I meant more like honestly it should be like a prison like doing something for good no but you don't want to waste an island on a prison no you're right it should be like a shelter like something

yeah yes I know what you meant something gorgeous and nice yeah like maybe you like yeah I understand yeah no but I understand what you're trying to say

like trying to turn you know the bad fortune into good fortune. Yeah, like people would love a beautiful island. Yeah. Or like make it like an island for like people that can't afford an island. Yeah, no. I know what you're saying.

Like turn it around. Yeah. Turn it around, turn it around, turn it around, turn it around, turn it around, turn it around, turn it around, turn it around. Turn the beat around. Love to hear percussion. Sorry, I'm just like obsessed with my little instrument. So, Jeffrey Epstein's Island is being sold. I will be watching this story with a very keen eye. Like what happens? I wonder if anything we predicted here on the show

like might happen. We predicted nothing. No, I know. Well, those are the Fast Fact Stories. I feel as though you needed to know them. And today's episode is truly far from over because it's Deer Toasters.

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Dear Claudia and Jackie or the guest. That's you. Oh, ow. Oh my God, I just poked myself in the eye. Okay.

I'm a single girl in my 30s trying to find love on the apps again. I matched with this guy a few weeks ago and we have plans to go on a date in two weeks. If I'm a single girl in my 30s trying to find love on the apps again. I matched with this guy a few weeks ago and we have plans to go on a date in two weeks. If I'm being honest, he was a 6 out of 10 in looks from his Tinder profile, but he

seemed like an overall great guy that we might have some similar interests. The problem is, I did some online stalking and I found his Facebook where I scanned through his photos and found him to be more like a 4 out of 10 looks wise. I know this sounds shallow, but now I'm second guessing the date. He took the initiative to pick the time and place and he seems like a great guy who really wants to meet me.

But I have a gut feeling there will not be an attraction on my end when we meet. What should I do? Do I still go and give it a shot or do I follow my shallow gut and not waste my time? Sincerely, a 30-something girl who's not getting any younger. Okay, I have a few things to say. The first thing is that you should 100% go on this date because one, nothing bad really

can come from a date. Like, it's always good practice to go on a date. You met him online, so just make sure you go somewhere public. Make sure you know nothing scary can happen. But if it's just like a standard date, there's nothing really bad that can happen. It's always good to, you know, practice up on your dating skills and you really never know. And the thing is with looks, I just don't believe in looks, you know? Like a person is as beautiful in your eyes. It really is true. Like, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What did they say?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Like, when you meet someone and you have great vibes, like, you will think that they're good looking. Like, I really firmly believe that. And I just, I think that, like, the beauty standard, unless he's, like, a gremlin. But, like, the beauty standard is just like not real. Like I just think you should 100% go on this date.

Yes. And I've heard a million stories of girls like, oh my God, I almost didn't go and then you know, like they're always saying that at the wedding.

Like I almost didn't go and then you fell in love. So you never know. Yeah. What were you going to say? I was just going to say, one, if you agree to go on a date,

go on the fucking date. It's really, really fucked up to cancel dates. And I know it usually happens on the, at least I date go on the fucking date it's really really fucked up to cancel dates and i know it usually happens on the at least i hear it on the guy's side the guy canceled the date on the girl it's not nice so you agree to go on a date go on a date worst thing it's dinner you want you were going to eat anyways yeah you're gonna see a movie you might not have to pay yeah or if you do you were gonna pay for dinner anyways because you're single it's true you need it to pay you don't eat for free. No, it's true.

So go on the date. I would say don't go into it. With a bad attitude. Like looking for your boyfriend. Go into it like looking to have a good time. Yeah. Because I totally agree with you that you absolutely can fall in love with someone and end up finding them attractive that you didn't. But not if you're going into it looking to date them.

It's more if you're going into it looking to be their friend. And then all of a sudden it turns into something more. Yeah, okay. Do you understand what I'm saying? I do. But like, sure. Yeah, I do. I do.

I do. The only, look, if two people are trying to date, they need to be physically attracted to each other. No, but you never know. She hasn't even met the guy yet. No, but the stories about how you have like one that's significantly better looking than the other is always, oh, they were best friends in high school and they grew together and now they're married. Right, right, right. Or, oh, they were best friends here, best friends there.

It's very rare that you have two people that are on opposite ends of the look spectrum falling madly head over heels in love the minute that they meet when they were intending to date. So you think she should go into this looking for a friend? I think that she should go into this looking for really good conversation and see if he's really funny and if she finds that physically attractive.

Also keep in mind that like boys don't care about photos. They don't edit them. They just like get tagged. Well clearly this guy does. Because his Tinder profile she's saying is much better than his other. Not much better. We went from a 6 out of 10 to a 4 out of 10. don't care about photos they don't edit them they just like get clearly this guy does because his tinder profile she's saying is much better than not much better we went from a six out of ten to a four out of ten like it's a lot no it's not i just think like just go just go okay definitely go go if you want if you want to date and you want to end up in a relationship you got to leave your

house definitely go also if you agreed to the date before you started stalking him why'd you stalk him what's the point right anyways yeah you're only setting yourself up for failure a hundred percent leave it alone also do you find it on facebook because if it's facebook he probably hasn't updated them in nine years she said facebook yeah yeah no i don't i just don't think guys social media is ever accurate of how they look facebook certainly yeah instagram they're always like just taking pictures of like like sunsets. Like it's not a thing. I don't even know what that means. Well, not you. Okay. Next up. Hey girlies. Ben. I live and die for this podcast, so it only makes sense to

solicit advice from the two most beautiful stunning and smart girls around. That's us. That's beautiful. Okay. So my boyfriend of eight years and I recently moved in together. He's a total PJOM. But of course moving in together sheds light on habits that each other has that we may not have been aware of before and i think i found his only major flaw oh he's a booger flicker aren't we all they're everywhere now don't get me wrong everyone's got to pick their nose i'll admit even i do it sometimes but i always make sure to use a tissue to keep everything hygienic but I'm finding this man's boogers everywhere on walls dressers blinds

literally every day I find a booger in the least place in the place I least expected to the first one one or two times I pointed out to him and called him gross and we both laughed about it but now it's reaching a disgusting level and I'm not sure what I can do he's my future husband and I love him to pieces but this is going too far and frankly it's making me look at him in a different light any advice on how I can bring it up more seriously to him and maybe help him develop more sanitary nose picking habits thank you number one are you feeling shame buy a magic eraser they're great are you feeling shame right now I'm not feeling

shame because it sounds like I wrote this in yeah well you also are like the biggest nose picker on the planet and did you ever see my boogers anywhere no no because I'm clean I understand you I don't care if you pick your nose. No, because I'm clean. I understand. I don't care if you pick your nose. Live your life. I'm actually a big fan of normalizing nose picking. Like, it's what we got to do. But you and your boogers on the shower wall and the bedroom wall,

everywhere, on furniture, on luggage, on my mirror, everywhere. I totally disagree with normalizing nose picking. They create sinus infections and get dirt up in the sinus cavity. It's actually a terrible thing. So stop doing it. You pick your nose all the time. No, I sneeze without covering my mouth all the time. That is why you'll often find my boogers, not often, occasionally find my boogers on a shower wall because when I'm in the shower and I need to sneeze, I literally went in the middle of this podcast to go and take a Zyrtec. I'm clearly an unwell man. You need to see someone. I needed to sneeze. You need to see someone. So I sneezed and I guess a booger left my nose and

hit the wall. So how does it make you feel that your wife... Oh, but by the way, we're talking about... We should be talking about her. No, I'm talking about me now. Okay, fine. How does it feel that your wife, who worked so hard to make this house a home, who loves you, who works hard at her job and comes home and cleans and does the groceries, has to spend some time out of her week with her magic eraser scrubbing your bloody boogers off the wall? Like how does that make you feel as a man? It makes me feel like we're even because when you get in bed,

you don't leave for nine hours and I'm your personal slave. So, I'm sorry that I occasionally sneeze and a booger ends up rogue. It's not occasionally. Like, it's a lot. Okay.

Did you write this? Shockingly, I didn't. Okay. Well, what's our advice to this girl? We have to give her advice. Advice? Like, honestly,

you have to talk to them. No, advice to her... Yeah, by the way. Just leave it. Leave it. I didn't. Okay. Well, what's our advice to this girl? We have to give her advice. Advice? Like, honestly, you have to talk to them like... No, advice to her... Yeah, by the way. Just leave it. Leave it. I keep dropping this book. Advice to her is it's not like a... It's so funny that there's boogers.

Like, say, look, man, I don't like cleaning up your boogers. Please do your best to not do that. Like, have it be a little... Okay, I'm going to take your advice. Look, man, I don't like cleaning up your boogers. Please do your best to not do that. Like, have it be a little... Okay, I'm going to take your advice. Look, man, I don't like cleaning up your burgers. Please do your best to not do that. Look, man, I don't like getting up in the middle of the night to get you a fucking seltzer. How about you get up and get your own fucking seltzer?

Again, if there's a good trade... Right, right, right. I don't know the circumstance in their relationship. Yeah. If this man is waiting on that woman hand and foot, 2 in the morning, I need Advil. 2 in the morning, I need seltzer. 2 in the morning, I need a Ritz cracker. Then I think the trade of the occasional using the magic eraser to peel a booger off the

wall is not as egregious. But if this man is not waiting on this woman hand and foot she waits on him hand and foot and has the occasional booger to peel off with a magic eraser yeah then it's a problem okay I think that's a good analysis fair yeah relationships are all about balance they are yeah one booger equals two seltzers okay our third and final dear toasters is something we've never had here before we have had a boyfriend write in for his girlfriend. Uh-oh. Hey, girls.

Ben. I'm a boyfriend, and hopefully a p-jum. And I'm a boyfriend of a huge listener, fan, toaster of your podcast, and I wanted to write in on her behalf because she has vented about this issue to me for months. Quick background. My girlfriend moved to a new city so we're long distance now and we ended up moving it and she ended up moving in with a friend in her previous city she lived alone and enjoyed it but rent was a lot more in the new city so she decided to live

with a friend who has a dog fast forward to now and her roommate has been traveling for work and or pleasure and it seems like she's doing it at least two weeks every month the issue is my instead of uh boarding her dog or finding a rotation of friends who may watch the dog, she always quote asks my girlfriend to take care of it. Never asking if it's okay with her schedule. It's the assumption you know like you'll watch my dog. The roommate has given zero amounts of money to compensate, but there have also been damages the dogs has caused that have not been rectified as well. This guy's definitely a lawyer. My girlfriend loves this dog and is good enough friends with her

roommate that she put up with it for a couple months, but now it's past the point of being inconsiderate in our opinion. I've suggested that she just talked to her head-on about it, but I know that probably that's probably the guy in me and would probably make her living situation awkward. I'm just the boyfriend and I know my place to stay out of it, but I hate to see her getting taken advantage of. Do you girls have any tips suggestions on how she should approach slash address the issue with her roommate, boarding, more payment that is agreed upon, or just pull a Nancy and

be like no? P.S. you should make wait you should make a male translated map. Oh you should make a male translated map slash key of all your acronyms. It took me way too long to figure out what PJOMA stands for. Thanks in advance. Okay this is tough. Like this girl's definitely being taken advantage of. And honestly, she just has to be like, no. So what I would say is if it's not your dog, you should not have to watch it for free for two weeks a month. Yeah, it's insane. Because no matter how much you love the dog, it's a burden. At the end of the day, it's a burden. Responsibility.

100%. And we know you can't enjoy a day out necessarily, or you can't go away for a weekend, or you can't because beautiful pooches have needs. Yeah. And they rely on us to go to the bathroom, etc. If the girlfriend's listening to this, I would tell you you're being totally taken advantage of,

and you're being taken for a ride. Getting free dog sitting. Yeah. So either talk to her about it and be like, honestly, like you don't even ask anymore. And like it's kind of a big responsibility. And like I have a life too. Or you can just take the route of being like a bitch and being like, no. And you would be totally justified in doing that too.

What I would, that works. What I would say is just to the first question, boarding, fuck no. Yeah, no. Don't have the dog. If you're on board with the dog two weeks out of the year. That fuck no yeah no don't have the dog if you're on board the dog two weeks out of the year that's the thing don't have a dog if you don't have like a good backup plan like i feel we feel we're very blessed like when we travel either for work or for pleasure like theo has a safe place that he arguably likes better than our house that's your parents yeah and if we didn't have that, he would come with us.

Right. Like, if you don't have a good... I would never, ever, ever board Theo. Two weeks. Well, I wouldn't board him at all. Yeah. Boarding,

you never know what goes down at those places. It's always better to leave with a family or a friend. I'm not a fan. But if you have to figure out a situation, which, I mean,

figure out a solution because clearly you have a situation on your hands. Figure out how much it would have been to board the dog. This is one option. And then get compensated for it. But maybe she shouldn't pad her pockets. That would be weird.

No, I just don't think this girl who has a dog should be traveling two weeks out of the month when she doesn't have a real plan. Yeah, but maybe she asked you for work. So what she should do is she should find a dog walker that can walk the dog. You know, like, they should have a conversation about it. Yeah, no, like, it's not this girl's problem. Find ways to be helpful. Honestly, this girl did not, doesn't have a dog, and dogs are responsibilities.

That's true, too. And it's not her fucking responsibility. It's not her problem. Since when she moved into an apartment and got this big job. That sucks. It's not her fucking fault. No. So either start making up a lot of excuses, like, she's going to be like, oh, I'm walking,

well, I'm leaving, can you watch Molly? No, actually, I'm going to a farm upstate with my boyfriend. Yeah. Oh, no, sorry, I can't. My boyfriend's coming to visit and we're staying at a hotel. Oh, no, I can't. I'm going to visit my boyfriend. And by the way, clearly this woman doesn't give a shit about her dog.

Yeah, like. You should offer. I have another idea. Take the dog. Take the dog. I'm taking the dog. The dog's now yours. Yeah, that's good.

Say, if you're going to leave it with me two weeks out of the year, it's my dog. Yeah, no, that's good. I'm so happy to take care of it. Yeah. But it's my dog. The dog's now yours. Yeah, that's good. Say, if you're going to leave it with me two weeks of the year, it's my dog. Yeah, no, that's good. I'm so happy to take care of it. Yeah. But it's my dog. It's irresponsible. My dog. Like, you have to be able to live your life and also have a dog, of course.

But you also have to have, like, a safe place for the dog. The dog is not an afterthought. No, it's my dog. You need a family member, a friend who cares about the dog, someone you trust. It's my dog now. Yeah. I think that's the most. I think you should take the dog.

My dog now. But you're definitely being taken advantage of, so do one of the things we said. Yeah. And think that's the move. I think you should take the dog. My dog now. But you're definitely being taken advantage of, so do one of the things we said. Yeah. And you have a Pigeon boyfriend, so like, that's all that matters. He wrote into Deer Toasters. He obviously, he's a man of taste and style and values. Yes. That was Deer Toasters. If you ever want to

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