The Toast - S5 Ep50: Off With Her Head with Stassi Schroeder: Tuesday, April 26th, 2022

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the Morning Toast. Happy Tuesday. I'm excited to be in studio with the first time around the show and your first podcast in two years. Is that correct? In two freaking years. I don't think, you know what, I don't think you understand what a big deal this is. Like, same. Because for eight, for eight years, I was doing podcasts 24-7. Not just my own, but other people's. You know how podcast swaps go. Of course. And then all of a sudden for two years. Silence. Nothing. Nothing. So like I do feel like I'm gonna puke a little bit. No. I'm like a tad nervous. Of course. I mean any like interview after like a scandal is like always a big deal. But people are really excited you're on the show. And today's a special day because it is the pub day for your book. Yeah. And by the way, I just have to say the title is so

good. Off With My Head, The Definitive Basic Bitch Handbook to Surviving Rock Bottom. It's out today. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. Now, I know you were always planning on writing a second book, right? Yes. After the success of Next Level Basic. Yes. So actually, I was like 70% done that second book. and shit went down right in June of 2020 and I was like we're gonna have to regroup right and begged my publishers pretty much and was like please you're the last you're the last hope the last hope I have please don't get rid of me and right and they said they gave me the longest extension ever and good you know what go rewrite it and rework it. And this is now what it is.

And it's so much better than what I had before. Yeah. Because what I had before was so chuggy when you think about it. Right. And basic. But it was just a follow up to next level basic. Right. And like there wasn't like the heart right this has and you actually have

something to say now something quite important yes so let's go through it okay because you know can i just say i became such a huge fan of yours and jackie's over just love to see over quarantine i was like i i didn't listen to any podcasts for a really long time. Because people were talking about you? No, just because my podcast got canceled. So I was like, I just like can't. It hurts too much. I feel that. And then after a while, I was like, okay, I'm ready to like get back in there. And yours was the first one I started with. So sweet. And I am a huge fan. So I am. I'm really excited. We love to see toasters just popping up out of nowhere it's the best um but let's talk through it okay so you shot to stardom Vanderpump Rules I would say a lot

of people would consider you their favorite cast member for a really long time for a really long time yeah yeah and back in the day so you're on the show for what like seven seasons eight seasons eight seasons I took like a I took some time off in the middle. Oh, right. Who could forget? Patrick in New York. Yes, thank you for reminding me. Great time.

And you were really a fan favorite on the show. And you had all these things going on. You had the podcast. You had the podcast tour. You had a New York Times bestselling book. So it really seemed like everything was going well. Then you met Bo and everyone was like, yes, this is how it ends. It was all really, really going well. How boring. No and everyone was like, yes, this is how it ends. Like it was all really, really going well.

How boring. No, so boring. Something had to happen. A hundred percent. Something had to happen. And what I find interesting is like you really weren't a stranger to controversy. Even at, you know, the height of all of your success, you had a lot of like backlash for things you had said.

Everyone remembers Nazi chic. Personally, as a Jew, I wasn't offended by it, but I see that other people were, and I'm not going to diminish your trauma. But personally, I didn't think it was that big of a deal. But you had these little things before. Yeah, well, no, I had been canceled quite a few times before. And I talk about this in the intro.

I was just reading it. Of the book, where I had made a joke to my friend Katie. She'd asked me on her podcast, do you think you would be canceled again me on her podcast, you know, do you think you would be canceled again? And like, do you think now you know how to handle it? And I'm like, I absolutely will know how to handle it if this ever happens to me. Oh my gosh, I got this.

I've been through being canceled so many times. And no. No, nothing really could ever prepare a human being for what it's like to be universally hated. Like, no. No. No. And I imagine, like the weirdest thing about watching your whole scandal was, like, you

obviously were going through the scandal and then found out you were pregnant. Well, I had already found out. I was already. We found out you were pregnant. I apologize. Yeah. And how far along were you when, like, the major scandal, like, the core of it happened? I was nine weeks pregnant.

Yeah. And they say the worst thing for a pregnancy is stress. Is stress, yeah. The amount of people texting me being like, just try and stay calm. Right. Like, really? Just like, stay zen?

Fucking stay zen! I'm sobbing dry heaving on the floor of my house. Like, what do you mean stay zen? This baby will get the strength that I have from all of my tears right now and all of my emotional breakdown so like i get you know what please stop telling me to say stay zen like yeah but how did you navigate that because like you have to be very conscious of your stress levels you're going through something stressful it's kind of impossible when you're

going through something like this it was a good week of hell and not being able to to stay stress-free but after that week once everything was done like once i was fired from everything right let's go so bravo fired you they were the i think the last one of the last ones to fire your podcast was canceled started with like my um my sponsors right of course. Which I expect that. I'm like, oh, I've been through that before. Yeah, sponsors gone. Yeah, I'm like, that's fine. We're gonna be fine. Right. Then my publicist dropped me, which

then had my made my agency drop me. So I lost all of my management and all that. Been there. So then it was then I think it was Bravo who fired me. Then my podcast fired me. The hits just keep on going.

And they deleted all my episodes. Right. And then my tour venues just started. Right, been there. Started canceling. And then one of the hardest things was that I'd sold the rights to Next Level Basic. Oh my God, I was just reading about that in your book. Yeah.

And to be made into an animated series. And it was, like, to me, that was, like, the highlight of my career thus far. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to be able to, like, quit reality TV. I'll be in, like, a writer's room working on something, creating something, doing something different. At least, like, I'll have, like, this this is it this is what i've been building towards and um that also fell through so the only thing i was left with yeah was this book and your instagram and my which no one liked at that point right no of course i really couldn't use it were you um how active on social media were you

were you reading everything that was being written um there were days that i did and then days where i was like i will actually throw myself off the roof if i can my home if i keep doing this so i can't so that's when i uh like stopped looking at social media altogether except for pinterest right that's such a happy place it is but you know when you've infiltrated pinterest with scandal, like you're in big trouble. You know shit has gone down. Well, was there a financial element for you because you had just bought a house? Yes.

Yeah, right? And then it was like, could your timing have been worse? Yes, of course. I just bought a house. I was about to have a baby. I found out I was pregnant. And like, I'm losing all of my income. What the fuck am I going to do?

What the fuck am I going to do? So yeah yeah that was um tough yeah so now what we're like two years out when you look back on that incident a lot of people were upset you called the police on faith well yeah there there was a tip line that was called okay so there was an article written and um they had a tip line number for the woman in the picture in the article and and you thought it was Faith? Yes. And you really did, like in your soul, think it was Faith?

In my soul, thought it was Faith, and Kristen and I had like thought that we like did our due diligence. Crime stoppers, yeah. Just fucking stupid, stupid shit. Right, right. We acted on gossip, and that was the problem. I did not witness anything. Like I did not witness Faith doing anything. And that is truly, I think, been the biggest lesson is to, you can't go accusing people

of things that you've never witnessed before. But yeah, so Kristen had called a tip line and just left her own information, not Faith's information. And they never called us back. And when you look back on the whole situation now, like at a glance, first of all, what is your, is there a relationship with faith? You've spoken to faith? No. So back after like the week after I lost like all my jobs and stuff, I had a couple people reach out to her to ask for her number and she didn't want to give it, which I'm like, okay, I have to respect that this person doesn't want to I get it 100% I wouldn't want to

talk to me either 100% so that's been where it's at and that hasn't changed no interesting and so now when you look at that whole situation you're far from it now it's two years out you're a mom now you're back podcasting on Patreon you've evolved in a lot of ways what is your main how do you look at that situation now? Like what is your takeaway from it? I mean, there are a million takeaways. So if you could be a little more specific. Yeah. I think like my question is, is how do you see it now? Do you see it like it was something like it was really hard to go through, but you're glad you went through it because you're a better person now? Like how do you? Oh, 100 fucking percent.

Yeah. Absolutely. Because I don't think, I feel like I was on this path to just not having to think about real shit. And I could have easily continued on that path, just doing reality TV, living my best life, podcast touring, me, me, me, me, me. I feel like Beyonce. Right. And it really, I had to really sit for two years and

stew and stew not just do but like take a cold hard deep look at myself and what do I value like what do I want my life to be what have I done wrong and why are those things wrong and how am I going to not do those things again and how do I inform myself enough so that like it that something like that doesn't happen again yeah um because I have a daughter right right that changes everything that I have to you know she has to look up to me and I love that you dedicated obviously your book to your daughter it says Hartford you saved me can you talk a little bit about writing a book that is so deeply personal and kind of like and I've been there my book is right here and I've been through the same exact well similar situation and writing a book just trying to explain yourself when a lot of people have turned on you

and you so desperately like want them to know like I'm actually not this person I'm actually like a great person and I've made mistakes and I And it was so emotional for me, and I wasn't pregnant. So I know you wrote the majority of the book in your daughter's nursery. What was that journey like? Okay, so I will say this. If I wasn't pregnant, I probably would have spiraled in this situation. I think that I would have dark-passengered the shit out of my life, and Hartford being pregnant is what really kept me like having a,

having purpose. So like writing this book in her nursery while I'm pregnant, imagining like what this kid is going to be like, what I want her to know, what I want her to like learn. Like that was so soothing and calming. Like while I wrote this book, because everyone's been at rock bottom to some degree, whether it's a breakup or like, you know, losing a jaw, anything, okay. A death, whatever, like everyone's been at rock bottom and I missed

being able to communicate with my followers and listeners. And during that time, I wasn being able to communicate with my followers and listeners. And during that time, I wasn't able to do that. Because if I posted something on Instagram without acknowledging everything that happened, like, that's bullshit. It's out of touch. It totally is. And so this was my way of finally being able to connect with them again. And Hartford was just, like, really what made that so special and got me through that without having to like down bottles of wine and take a Xanax.

And by the way, I think a book is a perfect place to do that because like, you know, you could have come back in any sort of way, whether it's a podcast, a book. And I think a book is really the perfect place for that because you can be very intentional and really think about what you want to say. I'm the type of person who's always like you know speaking and then thinking. And I think sometimes like sit down and really have your thoughts put into words. Be really meaningful about what you're trying to say is really helpful. No, Claudia. That was legit my train of thought because so many people, and this is one other thing I learned during that time, don't listen to anyone's advice. There were so many fucking people, my crisis PR person, just like everyone around me being

like, you need to just like keep on going with your normal life. Like keep out there, like start your podcast again, do this. Like, and, and in my soul, in my gut, like my intuition, everything was telling me like, no, like there is no interview I can do there is no like redemption there's nothing like I have to really like sit and like have my thoughts like they need you you can't just say something in ten minutes to describe yeah this whole experience like I need to write this out and I need to chill mm-hmm and I need to be low- key and I don't want people to hear from me

for the most part until they can read it themselves in its entirety and that's why I say in this book before the chapter the canceling chapter I say if you know the only thing I ask is if you read is to read this whole chapter in its entirety before you make your judgment because it it reads in chronological order got it so people could easily just pick up the book and be like she's not taking accountability well like I'm going in chronological order right like just can you wait till the later right of that chapter yeah I agree I think it's only fair for a judgment to be made when someone's read the whole book yeah and now that your book is out you did return to podcasting in a different way and I was actually really

curious about what weird ass deal you had before that could get like did you not own straight up with Stassi because I did I do I do the network dropped oh I remember how this I remember thank you for jogging my memory because I was so concerned because podcasting is so like you own your shit. Yes. Okay. So this is how it happened. They were able to take it all down from Apple. Yeah. But then they gave me back my episodes and I sat there with it being like, do I want to re-release them on the podcast app? Do I want to do that?

Is that making a statement by me like putting them out there? I don't want people to misconstrue that as being like, I'm still here. Listen to me, bitches. Right. So I'm like, you know what?

I'm just going to keep them, hold on to them. And that I have them. Yeah. And I think people who have subscribed, they can still actually listen to them. But, um,

if you, if you wanted to go back and do straight up with Stassi again, you could. Oh, I want to. You do? Yes. No, I absolutely want to. Causeassi again, you could. Oh, I want to. You do? Yes. No, I absolutely want to.

I miss it. Right. I miss it. Because your podcast now is private. It's on Patreon. So it's behind a paywall, which is like a level when you're reentering the world. You inspired me to do that. I'm telling you.

It's a great platform. The way that you've handled what you've gone through was, I'm sorry that you've gone through it, but at least it helped give some of the rest of us info that's why I do what I do honestly to inspire others um but I think a lot of people like the number one question I got for you is like when is your return to podcasting and your return to reality tv so you do plan to return to standard podcast format 100 at some point yes I have been waiting. This is, like I said, I've wanted to kind of just remain silent and chill until this

book comes out. Because it's important. And then what about reality TV? Ever? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know because, like, it's so funny because, like, I have literally family members calling me being like, so you're going back to Vannerpump Rules?

Right. I keep seeing all these articles. I'm like, not that I'm aware of. Right. That's not, I loved reality TV while I was on it. And I always would have, I always said like, I would have done this for the rest of my life. I didn't know any different than that life.

And then I, and even in the book, I say that, because I wrote it when I was pregnant and in the first few months that Hartford was born but now that I know my daughter now that she's a toddler she's not just like this blob I bet you even when she was a newborn I'd be like yeah I'd go back to reality tv right but now that like I she has a personality, she is a human being, I don't know that I would go back to reality TV unless I was in charge of editing and what goes out about her. And I just, yeah. I have respect for so many people who do put their families on reality TV.

It's really hard. It's really tough. It's very fucking hard. respect for for so many people who do put their families on reality TV it's really hard it's really tough very fucking hard it's not for me unless I am like a Kardashian that has unless you own the company unless I have like a final say yeah and and who's editing my daughter I just can't have some random editor I've never met yes like going through footage and being like here where Hartford's crying and throwing a temper tantrum. Right. That's just not the vibe.

I think that's very reasonable. But you are. It's so weird because you you're not on the show, but you're so very much a part of the the group. It's yes. And it's weird when people like come up to me like I love Vanderpump Rules. I'm like, I'm not on it. Yeah.

But you're a core part of the history. And I think a part of the reason why it was so successful, like when you backhanded Kristen in that bar, like, oh, my God. No, it's the worst. Iconic. Violence is not the history. And I think a part of the reason why it was so successful. Like when you backhanded Kristen in that bar. Oh my God. No, it's the worst. Iconic. Violence is not the answer. No, it's not.

But like on TV, sometimes it is. So you're still very much a part of the group. The group is still very much making waves. And honestly, the show is at this weird place where like the show itself is kind of irrelevant. But the castmates are not. And I want to get your take because so much has happened off camera. More has happened in the last couple months with the Vanderpump Rules crew than the entire last season.

So just rattle off your thoughts. Okay. And not thoughts. I need your opinion exactly on what happened between the rares of rumor that Tom Schwartz and Raquel. That did not happen. And I was listening to your podcast this morning with your husband. And I'm like, that did not happen.

Okay, but if it did, what would Katie's reaction be? Um I I honestly don't know. Because it's so weird. They're it's they're in such a good place Schwartz and Katie like I know what I've been saying when people are like how is she right I'm like they are divorce couple goals. Like they're handling this so well. Like, if God forbid, no, I wouldn't handle it. No. If they divorce me, I wouldn't have it.

Burn it to the ground. No. Yeah, I wouldn't be like that. Okay. Lala and Randall, like, did you know what is that? Just give me the whole spiel. Well, no. No one knew anything.

We found out on DuMois. You did? Not on DuMois. Like a fan account? A fan account or something. So everyone was finding out at the same time. And so obviously, no, me and Bo cut Randall off. You did?

Right when that happened. To Lala. Because it wasn't just like a cheating thing. It was, it's way darker. Beyond. And I don't, and I can't really speak on it because, you know, Lala has Ocean and they're going through it.

But yeah, no. Randall's not. You met Sheena's baby's birthday? No but the in all fairness okay I drove an hour outside of town to get to it because Bo and I thought it was Saturday so I had planned. Oh my god you're kidding. I had planned all of my like my manicure, my spray tan, like packing for this book tour on Sunday around Summer's birthday party. Oh my God, that is the most annoying thing. I couldn't do anything. And then I was literally almost there when all of a sudden like my blood ran cold and I was like, why isn't anybody texting me today? I've been like, what time are you going? I've been there. I've been there. What time are you going? Normally, that's how the texts go. And I just was like quietly just like looking on my phone for the invitation and I'm like, Bo? And Hartford was screaming the whole entire car ride.

And I'm like, Bo? It's tomorrow. And that was Saturday was bleak. Yeah yeah for sure. I'm sure like Bo wanted to kill you. Oh my god that is so funny. And there was a lot of like like, people thought there was, like, tea there, but there's not. You just missed the party. There truly is not tea there. You just missed the party. Yeah.

The last thing I want to talk to you about before you're officially out of my hot seat is you being a COVID bride. Yes. Very difficult group to be in. I've been through worse. Well, that's 100% true. But you are married. Yes.

Legally. Legally married. It was really important for Beau before I had birth to get married. And so I wanted to respect that. You stand a traditional king. There you go. And so we got married. We actually had a twofer.

So Katie threw my baby shower. Oh, my God. And the Taylors were in town. and so I'm like well if we're gonna get married the tailors have to be there so why don't we just do it at my baby shower in the backyard cute actually or tacky but no no I mean it depends on how you spin it for sure but they're like baby shit everywhere you know you're it's budget-friendly you had just lost your job like you could only afford one party it's fine's fine. But you are getting married like relatively soon. Yeah. Like the big thing in Rome.

Yes because you went to... I went to a wedding there. Yes. Beautiful venue. Really stunning. Thank you. It's gonna be stunning. I got locked into that venue because yeah my wedding was supposed to be on Vanderpump Rules. And so when we went wedding scouting we had a producer

come with us. And wherever we chose had to sign off on waivers on all of that and once covid rolled around they did not let me out of it so beau when i were like okay so do we just eat that money right or do we just try and reimagine what this wedding will be off camera off camera cut the guest list to like three people right and um that's what we're doing pretty much and so when your wedding was going to be on vanderpump rules i think i know the answer to this question but does production pay for any not one dollar okay this is what they pay for an extra day so the day they paid for the like instead of just getting the venue the day of the wedding they pay for the day before so they can set up lighting and production and all that so

like no nothing that has to do with my nothing for me and how many people were going to be at your wedding when you were filming it a little over like 100 like 120 and now now it's like 35 and taylor strecker is marrying you yes which is literally the most iconic thing ever she's such a queen I'm so excited and honestly even though I think like you really were stellar on the show but you went through a weird period where you like moved to New York and you thought you were better than everyone I know but and that was like not the best thing for you but Taylor Strecker came out of that right you met that when you were you met her when you were here yes so when I think about like all of the, that was like the most miserable time ever. I literally lived in like a, like 250 square apartment with my ex-boyfriend.

Who was so mean. Who was really mean to me and wouldn't talk to me for like days at a time. Yeah. So I would either call Taylor or I would go to the Mexican restaurant across the street. Both good options. And call my mom or my friends and be like, what am I doing? And I am such a prideful person that I was like, well, I can't move back now. Like, I already made, I made this decision. I made this so public and look at me. I'm here. That I was like, I'm going to ride this so hard.

Mistake. But Taylor, who is. Was a blessing. Is my soul sister. Like, my best friend. Like, that makes it all worth it. See, really? Everything happens for a reason. Is my soul sister. Like my best friend. Like that makes it all worth it. See, really? Everything happens for a reason.

That was just like so funny. No, it wasn't. No, like as a viewer, it was like, what is this bitch doing? Like things couldn't be going better for you. You're like the queen bee. Like get back here. I know. And then I dress like everyone said that I dress like.

You were dressing weird. Yeah. I know. What did they say? It was like grunge. Like the secretary of state's wife like a senator's wife or something and I'm like I look back I'm like that is so accurate. Yeah but it was just emblematic of that time in your life. I don't think that's bad. Oh my god. It was iconic too. It was fucking hilarious. I was not thriving. Um no not thriving but you're back out now. New book everyone. Off with my head and Stassi's to join me for the past five because you are a pop culture girly.

Oh, yes, I am. What are you into? Well, we were talking about before how, like, you don't watch Bravo anymore, obviously. No, I mean, I watched Vanderpump Rules to support my friends that are still on it. But I haven't. And also, once you have a baby, you don't have time. That's what Jackie says. To just, like, sit and, like, just sit and watch all the TV in the world.

So I have to really love what I'm watching. And I feel like I can't just watch mindless shit anymore if it's not inspiring me in some way. I hate myself for saying that. No, I agree. I agree. But I just, yeah. And are you a Kardashian, Stan? It's important before we move forward.

I need to know your take. 100%. I love the Kardashians. Me too.ian like do you think you relate to most okay so like it changes of course it changes all the time i used to think chloe um but uh and then i went through a phase where i was like i'm so courtney like courtney courtney is it but like kim is just like she's it she's she's She's my inspo right now. A hundred percent. I used to be like a Chloe girly too. And I still am a Chloe.

A hundred percent. Chloe is, they're all, it's like I hate choosing a favorite because I love them all. It's like choosing a favorite child. Yeah. I feel like I'd have an easier time doing that if I had multiple children. Who do you think your favorite child is? Actually, I think I might have an easier time choosing my favorite child. I feel like you're

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Right now. Yeah, currently. Because Erika, did you see that E Erica threw out Garcelle's book? Yes, I did see that. So then Lisa Vanderpump. Which is like sad. Don't throw out a book. Recycle it, girl.

Like the earth. Just like give it to someone. The earth? Like it would have been way more interesting to just be like passing this along. Yep.

Yeah, no. It just could have gone to a better home. Yeah, agreed. So Lisa was asked about it and Lisa responded, I thought that was pretty mean, honestly. Maybe Erica um, Lisa was asked about it and Lisa responded, I thought that was pretty mean, honestly. Maybe Erica didn't understand it. Maybe Garcelle should have sent her a scratch

and sniff book or something. So she was being shady. So Erica got shady back and basically said, Lisa Vanderpump's mouth reeks of garlic, cigarettes, and Chardonnay. So, um, I thought that was kind of interesting because like, I kind of do see that for Lisa Vanderpump. No. Well, she doesn't drink Chardonnay. Oh, that's true. She's a rosé girlie. Yeah. So already. You smell her breath.

Already. She's off. That's off. But Lisa Vanderpump does smoke cigarettes. I rarely, like rarely, rarely. So she doesn't smell. No, she doesn't smoke cigarettes. We saw her in Dubai on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills getting angry and having a cigarette

with Ken. And it was like seeing, you know, like a teacher out of school. 100%. It was just like crazy. Yeah, totally. Have you seen Lisa getting angry and having a cigarette with Ken. And it was like seeing, you know, like a teacher out of school. It was just like crazy. Yeah, totally. Have you seen Lucy Vanderpump smoke a cigarette? In the past, yeah. Back when I was smoking cigarettes in 2012. Well, that was another question.

Cigarettes are like a main character on Vanderpump Rules, which is just so weird. Like, you know, why don't you guys just like vape? Okay. Are they still a main character? Well, with some of the guys, yes. Not so much since everyone has had kids okay but like up until recently like the cigarettes were literally like the plot no i start like i'm my i'm gonna my this is gonna turn orange the spray tan is

gonna start sweating into this vest when i think back on like the first like two seasons of vaner pump rules like it's literally just chain smoking I'm like what the I can't believe that was what I know it is yeah no it's embarrassing it's so crazy like it's just cigarettes it's so vintage right maybe it's gonna look like cool and like you know James Deeny someday like how we look back at like Lindsay Lohan's like heroin chic era oh my gosh yeah that's gonna be you guys it's such a throwback i agree it's like so random like get a jewel like everyone else in all fairness there were no jewels in 2012 that's true the show has been on for so long yeah it's been an eternity um so what does this event or pumps breath smell like that's what i wanted to ask you well i haven't got close enough

to smell it that there's that do you smell people's breath okay so i happen to have like a nose like a hound and i'm very breath conscious. Like, I'm really, like, as Ben, I'm always like, your breath, your breath, your breath. Because, like, there's two different types of breath, let's be honest. Breath that smells like food, which really doesn't bother me unless you're eating something, like, really smelly. But if you're just, like, tasting, like, your tacos, like, that doesn't bother me because, you know, it's food. But then it's, like, breath that's, like, I can't really explain it. Like, it's, like, the smell of your insides. But that's not, people can't help explain it. Like, it's like the smell of your insides.

But that's not, people can't help that. That's like called halitosis. No, no. There is halitosis for sure. But then there's also just poor dental hygiene. Okay. And I think the latter is inexcusable. No!

Like, I at all times, I have like Listerine strips, gum, mint. I'm so breath conscious. And I just wish more people were like that. I get it. But like I have like, I have a soft spot in my heart for people that have that problem. Because I feel like it's like a digestive thing in your stomach. And I'm not talking about those people. I agree.

Like there are medical issues. And that is totally not your fault. I'm not talking about that. Okay. If you don't have halitosis and your breath smells like you're inside, you're done. That's unfair. That's unfair. That's unfair to us.

And you know what? That's kind of like what I miss about wearing a mask. I didn't have to smell anyone's breath but my own, which wasn't pleasant. I'm not going to lie. Smelling your own breath, no matter how good it is, is like... Or you know what was the worst? It's like when you wore the same mask for so long... And then you had your steak on it.

...that when you put it on, then you're like, does my breath smell like this? Holy shit. I'm one of those people. Well, you know what? Do you still have a relationship with Lisa Vanderpump? We're friendly when we see each other, but it's not anything really more than that. Now I don't know what I did to you, but I'll take a pinot grigio. Sorry I've been wanting to say that for like an hour. Why? I hate it. Like every... I like I

don't... I remember the exact moment that I said it and a producer came out after the scene was like that's why we needed you back this was after New York right right right and I'm like for what and they're like that the Pinot Grigio that was hysterical I'm like no it wasn't I genuinely needed a Pinot Grigio and she was my server right and I had no idea I could I can't see the humor in it I'm like I'm too in it that I can't see how it's funny it's so funny and it was just like so mean like I don't know what I did to you but I'll take a peanut grigio like it was just so funny because she was just kind of standing there like useless and she's like staring at you so you're like well I don't know what you want but I'll take a peanut grigio it was you know I need to start I need to start embracing this I need to receive it I need to own it I need to just like find

the joy in it what's the one line people like quote to you the most is that one yeah that one or I am the devil and don't you forget it which I'm very into I'm proud of that for you you're such a like true crime girly right I have always been a true crime girly until it became so popular that it was everywhere. That it became chuggy. But I wonder if that's why. Like, am I just trying to be a contrarian? Or did I just, like, did I grow out of it? Do you consider yourself chuggy?

Yeah, I think so. I think you're chuggy, but, like, in a really chic way. That's so nice. Because there's something glorious about being chuggy. I agree. Because you don't care what people think. You just like the things that make you happy. I totally agree. It's like so easy. But like if I could be chic while being chuggy, I'm here for it. I mean like you're wearing a vest. Like that is not chuggy at all. It's from Zara. It's like a tuxedo vest. Look, do you want to see me wearing that? Like I could never. So

you are chuggy, but like with a spin, like with with a real with your own unique flair i love this yeah can we change my instagram bio to this right now with the flair with the flair chuggy but chic chic chuggy like that is totally you um so you can confirm 100 her breath doesn't smell like cigarettes chardonnay i totally can confirm that um i don't really believe you because i feel like i could she doesn't drink chardonnay i just could see a world in which has cigarettes like on rare nights when she's like being attacked in dubai like out out out like you know what i don't want i didn't want to be like have you smoked a cigarette with lisa vanderpump back in the day yes iconic um okay well in other groundbreaking news kim kardashian has joined t joined TikTok with her own solo account after, of course, we know she made her debut with Northwest. And then she made her own account a while ago, but never posted.

And yesterday she posted. And she posted, you know, of course, with Chris Appleton and Mario, like doing glam, just having fun, being girly girls in the jet. On the jet? On the jet, because she was on her way. She was wearing this blue sequin gown, which she wore to the Kennedy Center on her day with Pete Davidson so I you know I inferred that on the jet they were either on their way or leaving the Kennedy Center because she was wearing that blue scoop neck dress which was a very um very mature dress I'm not sure it was my favorite I was giving like mother of the bride but um she's on TikTok and I as like I'm the resident TikTok correspondent here I know that

you are very into TikTok. So I follow you on TikTok. Do you follow me back? Probably. I don't think so. This is the thing about TikToks. Do like the people you follow. I agree.

Following doesn't matter. Like the people that I follow, I end up not seeing anymore. The notifications are not filtered at all. So I stop. I'm like, I shouldn't follow people anymore

because then I'm never going to see their videos. Also, the TikTok journey that I'm like I'm like I shouldn't follow people anymore because then I'm never gonna see their videos also the TikTok journey that I'm on is um like um old vintage castles in Scotland oh is that like you get like travel back in time with me to what it would be like as a peasant in the 1600s oh I get like like that's my that's my I get like, here's a little brown pill you put in your belly button and you'll literally lose a hundred pounds. That's what I get. And like, honestly, I'm getting dangerously close to purchasing. In your belly button?

Yeah. How does it hold it in? That makes no sense. You put the pill in your belly button. That is a lie and a scam. That is not real. Don't do it. You put this brown, it looks like a piece of dog kibble in your belly button and is not real, don't do it. You put this brown, it looks like a piece of dog kibble, in your belly button,

and then you slap a Band-Aid over it. No. And overnight, you lose 100 pounds. I need to see this TikTok after we're done. I'll send it to you. I need to see this TikTok. I'll send it to you. And then there's all these doctors reacting, basically being like, do not do this. But I don't know.

I'm not convinced. That's what I get. Do you post on TikTok a lot? Not as much as I you know in my brain I'm always like I'm gonna I'm gonna be a TikTok early I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna post multiple times a day because I guess that's what gets you like you know up there on TikTok but TikTok is so hard full-time job like creating TikToks are so hard. I have so much fucking respect for everybody who does it. These kids are like fucking movie editors. I don't understand.

But also, at the same time, I wrestle with it because I'm like, the thing I love about TikTok is that I don't see celebrities or well-known people. It's like, again, it's like, here's an Anglo-Saxon home. Right. And this is where they would make their bread. Yeah. Like, do people want to see my TikToksoks i'm not sure so like maybe it's not maybe like i just want to be a spectator

a lurker is also great i spend like you know a couple weeks ago you do the screen time thing like where you could see how much screen time you spend on um that's against my will like it tells me on my phone i ignore it's so annoying so a couple weeks ago um collectively in one week i spent 24 hours on tikt TikTok so like a whole day yeah oh my yeah I'm really mentally ill honestly like it's an illness it really is I need to get off and you know what is your philosophy on having um your children on social media because you've really seen the dark side of it yeah are you gonna be like a helicopter mom well I mean if you see if you follow me on Instagram you would see that I do follow you

I post my daughter a lot no but I mean when she grows up yeah so this is not now that it's kind of like with the reality show thing at first when she was born like I had like two weeks where I was like I'm never posting her she's mine like oh my gosh and then I was like oh my god but this is the so special the most important thing that's ever happened to me. The thing that I love the most. How can I not share this? Fuck it. I'm going to share it.

I've embraced it. And then now that she's a toddler, now I'm like. She's recognizable. Yes. And people, just the other day, someone came up and asked for a picture with Hartford. Not with me. That's weird. And I'm like, no, my baby's not taking photos with people.

shirt with Hartford not with me that's weird and I'm like no my baby's not taking photos with people and now I'm like do I back off posting or is it harmless because is this just 2022 where where people do post everything like I really see both sides to it and I can't fucking decide how I feel you'll figure it out at some point at some point but I I think more people should think about the other side. Like, I think a lot of people, especially a lot of people that I follow, are, like, really out there with their kids. And that just, like, freaks me out. I don't know.

I don't. But see, we're going in the direction that, like, just everyone's doing it. I know. No, you're 100% right. So, like, will it be weird if she grows up and she isn't on it? Will then she be, like, you know what I mean? You know, that she's, like, a freak. she'd be like you know what i mean i don't know the class freak i don't know no totally i think that's the thing i'm like i'm gonna fuck her up in some way right regardless of what decision i make and that is so much pressure oh my god

100 i could never um all right moving on happy for kim kardashian welcome to tiktok follow me back um next up we've got a little selling sunset news and I just really want an excuse to talk about the worst show on television. But Jason. Is this the worst show on television? So I've never seen it

but I thought it was so popular. It's so popular but like if you have a. I'm sorry. I heard that. If you have a brain cell, like it's so dumb. It's literally dumb.

Like I just can't use a different word other than moronic but people are like quaking because this season started out you know Chrishell was dating the boss yes I saw I see all this on social media daily mail yeah but so now like and I'm only like two or three episodes into the fifth season and it's really atrocious like it's really really bad but did you like it in the beginning yes in the beginning and then it isn't all reality shows are like. But did you like it in the beginning? Yes, in the beginning. And then. Isn't all reality shows are like that? They're golden in the beginning. So true.

Because it's so much more real. And like everyone, no one knows what the fuck they're doing. And nobody has anything to lose. And no one has anything to lose. No one has any brands. And then as like the years go by, everyone's too scared to just like be themselves. And that's when things get a little stale. But so why people are quaking is like. so Chrishell and Jason dated for six months.

And then he dropped on her that he didn't want kids. And so now he's getting like a lot of shit for wasting a woman's time. Like I actually think like the meanest thing a man can do is waste like a woman's, you know, fertile good years. Right. So he's getting a lot of shit for like being six months into a relationship and then telling her she didn't want kids. He didn't want kids. Okay. Did she ask for like being six months into a relationship and then telling her she didn't want kids. He didn't want kids. Okay. Did she ask him before those six months?

Such a good question. If she didn't ask, that's her own fault. We're all responsible for ourselves. Yeah. Personal accountability is so important. So like there needs to be context. Agreed. Before we go like hating this random dude.

But just watching them, like it's so painful. And the reason why I really don't like the show is because like the villain is Christine okay so I did see that she tweeted um like enjoy all the fake storylines and I'm like oh no I'm like that is like the number one thing when you're on a reality show don't do because you're literally just shooting yourself in the foot and you're gonna cancel your own show it's literally you're gonna cancel your own fucking paycheck by tweeting that. But having said that, like, am I on team Christine? Absolutely. So watching the show, it's like infuriating because it's all the women against Christine. And like, Christine is not, I don't have a reason as to why I'm team Christine. It's just like all these other girls are like losers getting together, like laughing. All they do is

talk about Christine all the time. Like someone could have just given birth and they're like, oh my, did you hear what Christine did? It's like Christine, Christine, Christine. It's so lame. So it's just like, you know, you guys are acting like loser energy. I'm going to be on team Christine. I don't have a good reason. I just am because she's like cooler than you. She is. So watching a show where like the one person you like is so universally hated, it's frustrating. Okay. I get that. Um, wish I'd seen it. I wish I wish I had. No, honestly, like you said, like being a mom, you really cannot like spend time watching things that don't serve you.

Selling Sunset serves nothing. There is no purpose. Like do not waste your time. I'm being dead serious. I'm just being honest. Okay. I also think on reality shows too, this is like a theme that happens where all the girls band together

and dislike one person. And it's always interesting how that happens where all the girls band together and dislike one person. And I it's always interesting how that happens because sometimes and for the most part it's based in something that's off-camera that they can't talk about. So true. And so then all the women that are friends look like fucking assholes because they're sitting around hating on this person. But the truth is is they can't talk about the actual thing that is the reason why they don't like Christine Quinn so I wonder if it's the same sort of situation reality show is so fucked up right but also I think a lot of it is just like

when you meet someone like you're not always gonna vibe with them and there are people who you meet who are like there's just something weird about them like you can't put into words but like they're just not your vibe like there's something intangible about like what's off with them. And in a reality show that just comes off as you disliking someone for no reason. Correct. And you're not going to like everyone. Exactly. Which makes things complicated because everybody likes to pit everyone against each other.

And you're either team this or team that. Right. You can like everyone and not have to pick a team just because somebody doesn't like. It's not a way to live when you really think about it. Were you on The Amazing Race? Fuck off. You were, yeah, with black hair. Yeah.

Tell me about that because, honestly, they asked me and Jackie to audition for it once, and I was like, I would literally rather die. You should totally do it. Rather die, like, running around, flying coach. But it is like a real-life adventure. Yeah, you do. You have to fly coach.

You also have to, like, sleep in tents. And, like, just stand by at the airport. Yeah, you do. You have to fly coach. You also have to like sleep in tents. And like just stand by at the airport. Like, no. I print my travel documents. I get to the airport early. I have a glass of wine. It's just not for me. Yeah, no.

I would never do it now. No, right. Of course. I don't have what it takes at all to do it now. I was 16 and they did a family edition and I blame my dad because I was a minor. So like I had no control over the situation. And did you like come close to winning? Not at all.

No. We actually lost in New Orleans like five minutes away from my house. Like so there's that. It was so depressing. Oh my God. Also that just it sounds like there are a lot of reality shows I imagine like I could do. I couldn't do. I don't think I could ever do Amazing Race. I think i could do maybe like big brother because you just have to

lie in bed fuck that you just lay all day that is actually i would rather do amazing race 365 days straight then i the thought of having cameras on me 24 7 except in the bathroom is like that is next level i can't i really i did when we went to summer house oh i wanted to ask you about that a couple times i put it in our contract i was like cameras in our room go off at 10 p.m they go back on at 10 a.m i'm not on the show you don't need that from me like i my mental health will start to fully deteriorate and spiral I cannot handle that sort of pressure like yeah I need my like alone time to recharge a hundred percent to scroll tiktok Paige was just here and she was saying like Craig also hates it like he will never come on full time because it's so disarming it just truly is and then if like you're having sex I'm seeing two people having

sex I'm like this is like porn I would never never. No, I can barely make out with my husband in front of like a friend. It's so awkward. I don't do that. I can't imagine. No, it wouldn't happen. We wouldn't have sex for months if that was the case. Oh, I wanted to tell you something. A message for Bo.

If it's negative against the Rams. No, it's not. It's not. We can go fuck the Rams. No, I'm totally kidding. Kelly Stafford follows me on Instagram. I take back everything I said. I know that he purchased me a hat and gave it to Taylor Strecker.

And Taylor sent it back. And I want to blow up Taylor's spot and let you know I never got the hat. No, I know. Because Taylor sent it back. What does that mean? I don't know. It was so weird. She came and she was like, oh my God, I forgot it at my house.

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That's modernfertility.com slash toast. Speaking of vaginas, Lea Michele was so close to Jonathan Groff in Spring Awakening that she showed him her whole vagina. So she is you know over sharing. Happy for her. So they're doing Spring Awakening. These two met. Jonathan Groff is from Glee. I know him. But he's also the voice of, now that you're a mom, he's the voice of um you know. Which? The guy with the ice in Let It Go.

I mean, in Frozen. Oh. Sven. No, that's the horse. Who's Sven's owner? Are we talking about? Kristoff. Oh, he's Kristoff. I think he also might be Sven, too.

Like, I think he's all of the voices. The horse? The donkey? The donkey? Yeah. What is he? He's like an ice reindeer. No yeah no I watched Frozen twice a day. Of course. So they are best friends and they met like

years ago during Broadway Spring Awakening and now Spring Awakening is like coming to HBO Max. So like they're doing press and being annoying together. And she shared something like I just feel like I could have. I saw this on on the plane yesterday because I was like what is Claudia gonna ask me about the fast five I need to be like all up on my shit and I'm like wow it's a slow news weekend there's literally nothing this week has been dreadful yeah I can't lie but so here's what she said Jonathan and I became so close we were intertwined but it was that it no okay they're really just being lengthy in this article um

where does she say okay sorry i'm starting again jonathan groff said lee and i were given this material where we had to fall in love but the first thing i felt was that they're gonna know i'm gay fuck i never had sex with a girl i'm in the closet so i'm just gonna pretend that i know what i'm doing i wanted the choreography to tell me what to do and give them give me the moves to allow me to express myself and thank God for director Michael Mayer. And then Lea Michele said,

at one point, I literally showed him my whole vagina and Jonathan says, I can confirm that. Any more details or is that? No, that's pretty much it.

Just like, so unique. I need to know, was it just like pulling my pants down or was it like, stirrups? Let's do this. It's so crazy cuz I feel like most women like have never even looked at their vaginas like I don't like to do

it no but like Jonathan Groff a gay man has probably seen more of Lea Michele's vagina than most women have seen of their own vaginas this is true if she did like lay on a table and spread up but I don't see the point in that and what that that helped with a sex scene. I literally, that sounds like just like shock. That's so Lea Michele, you know. She's, oh, have you been watching The Girl from Plainville? Yes.

I am. I'm two episodes behind. Me too. I have two left. Okay. Don't you think the glee thing is so weird? I love it. Because I love this.

I love this specific reference I know and I could really see how like you know a very impressionable impressionable you know um unbalanced young girl can watch that show and like want the attention of having your fiancee die like it's so twisted but I was living for the um the musical numbers oh no totally I'm I'm very into it yes so good um but actually Michelle she showed Jonathan Groff her vagina and I um now I just feel like we should show us all of her vagina so we can really kind of relate to it are you a Lea Michelle fan I feel very conflicted because like if you knew the amount of influence Glee like has and continue had and continues to have on my life I'm such a Gleek I've seen the show uh one million times and I really

identify with Rachel Berry like being vocally gifted we have that in common and also just like you know being really like annoying I actually really relate to the character because like we're both really annoying and like we're not everyone's cup of tea um and I just I love the show and I love the songs and I love the singing but Leaa Michele, you know, in real life I don't know if I would like her that much. Have you met her? Yes. She came on the podcast and I have to say she was absolutely lovely. Absolutely lovely. But it doesn't discount what other people

you know their experience has been with her. Yeah I've always been curious. I just think she's so talented. Beyond. Beyond talented and but then you read these things. I know. But also, it's like, you know what? Let's just, she's talented.

I know. Let's like her for what her job is. She's not out here trying to be like, miss, like. Do you know about the conspiracy theory that she can't read? Do you know about it? Yeah, it's like really big. And I actually asked her about it on the podcast, and she was like really upset about it. Because she like really big um and i actually asked her about on the podcast and she was like really upset about it because she was like wait like genuinely upset somebody

definitely can't read yeah like like if you get upset over that accusation you can't read and now i am even more thinking about this for the next seven days of my life and what's so weird is like we met her in like this apartment building like we we came to her. She didn't come to us. And she like had this. Because she couldn't read street signs. Because she had this room reserved for us. And it was like this room in her building that was actually a library. And I just thought that was really interesting and kind of.

Beshare. Do you think she can read? So this girl, this podcast, and I don't remember the name of the podcast, and I apologize, but these two podcasters put together this PowerPoint on why they think she's illiterate. Over the years, they've seen all these things, and they just think her and Ryan Murphy are working together, that he reads her the scripts, and she memorizes the lines,

and she doesn't read her own scripts. And they have all this footage, videos, her signings over the years of them really putting together all this proof that they think that she doesn't know how to read and it was like kind of a joke but also dead fucking serious and it blew up I'm so shook right it blew up I'll find it and send it to you and it got back to Lea Michele and Andy actually asked her on Watch What Happens Live and she was like not thinking it was funny at all she was like no like i've seen it and like it's like so stupid like me and ryan ryan murphy she was like very defensive me and ryan murphy like working together like why would we ever like yeah it's a girl it's a joke and you being so defensive it's like oh you

actually don't know how to read oh does that mean she's not funny in real life she was i have to say she was wonderful on the podcast. And, you know, a lot of people, I will say, like who you meet who got famous for one thing, they always hate the thing that made them famous, you know? Yeah, sometimes I resent the shit out of Vanderpump Rules. Of course. And for me, like when you're so deeply impacted by a show,

like Glee really, I was raised on Glee. I feel very deeply connected to it. She was incredibly kind about it. She wasn't being lame. She was giving me like all the gossip on Glee. Like she was so happy to talk about it and like indulge me in my fandom. So that was very kind of her. Cause I think a lot of people wouldn't do that.

Like a lot of people just like hate the thing that launched them, you know? Yeah. It's because people are scared that that's going to be the only thing they can ever do. A hundred percent. Okay. So moral of the story,

Lea Michele. Yeah. She showed her vagina. Like I have nothing to say because i don't know like why she would do that i don't it sounds just like i need to promote something right now so and we're talking about it spring awakening on hb why did i not think to do this over my book i should have showed somebody my vagina wait i have something better let's make some press what is the craziest thing like the craziest juiciest tidbit in the book? Oh, my God. I have no.

The thing is, I don't know what other people find. We find juicy like celebrity. Like. OK. OK. I can. OK. I think based on like what people are writing about right now, I think the juiciest part.

First of all, you didn't read it to prepare for this fucking interview. Bitch, I literally walked in today and my book was sitting on the counter. It just arrived. Where's my early copy? I sent you a box. It just got here today. Look, it's right it's right there oh shit so that's why i put it on this pencil and i started reading it before you sat down you know i'd like to read i would have read it before but i didn't get um like an early copy okay i'll say this i will say this um before uh we got fired and all that went down, Vanderpump Rules was supposed to transition into a new show called that. It was going to be called Valley or whatever.

And our wedding was going to be the start of that new show. So it was going to be. Because you guys live in Valley Village. I mean, I don't. You don't, but everyone else does. But a lot of the people do. And so they were going to slowly transition us and have like, and keep Vanderpump Rules with a whole new cast of people who work at the restaurant. Younger people, like fresh to sir.

Yeah. And then so the rest of us would transition into this. The way that like Vanderpump Rules started, where it was like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and it transitioned into Vanderpump. That's what we were going to do with my wedding. That is juicy. Yeah. So that's not happening.

Obviously. Like half the cast got fired. Oh my God. That is like such a juicy piece. Thanks for sharing that. Yeah. So if you buy my book, you can read all about it. I started reading it.

It's very good. It's very honest. started reading it it's very good it's very honest and I think it's a good combination of like you being extremely vulnerable but also like giving the people what they want like juicy tidbits behind the scenes do you do you go through what it's like like hour to hour minute a minute like the day you got canceled I used to yeah I used to all the time but like I I quickly realized that you cannot live like that in order to survive I mean in the book about getting the chapter on getting canceled yes you give people a play-by-play I quickly realized that you cannot live like that in order to survive. I mean, in the book about getting the chapter on getting canceled. Yes.

You give people a play by play. I get full blown play by play every single day. What happened? Like I compare it to like the biblical, like creation of earth, except it was like the destruction, the universe. Right.

But it was like the destruction of my universe. Yeah. So that it was. All right. Fifth and final story. We got the Real Housewives of New Jersey trailer and it's supposed to be

like the craziest. The craziest season yet. I know. But like it actually has been an amazing season and I really I know you don't watch Real Housewives of New Jersey

but I just wanted to bring it up and ask you about your interactions as a Bravo Liberty with Teresa Giudice because she is just like positively dreadful, awful, the biggest hypocrite you've ever met in your life.

Like really such a nasty woman. And I've met her in person and she's actually quite lovely. I've never met her. Oh, you haven't? No, I never have. But what is like, what does the Bravo Liberty universe say about her? Um, the thing about the Bravo Liberty universe is that we all want to talk about ourselves. Yeah, so true.

I've never met anyone that's like, let's talk about Teresa. Oh, really? Yeah. You know, it's like everyone is just like so pumped up on their own ego. And myself included. I'm not taking myself out of that. That it's like, this is what I'm doing. This is what I'm doing.

There's no time to ask questions about other people. Speaking of ego, are you friends with Tom Sandvall still? We were never close friends. Like if I see him out someplace, can we sit and like have a conversation and it's like good to see you? Absolutely. That's what it's like. But we were never friendly. But do you guys run into each other quite a lot just given like the group?

Not that much. I don't really go out. My life is not the same as it used to be so the only reason that I ever do run into him is if it's like Tom Schwartz's birthday right or Katie's birthday or something like that but that's pretty much it is Tom gonna move out of the house or is Katie um I I think they're both going to oh they're gonna sell the house I I'm pretty sure that's the plan I also don't know if she wants me to speak on yeah that's fair that's fair do you find like this is what I always say to Taylor Strecker because like every time she comes on here she has like had the worst job ever of like somehow she does I feel so bad for me too

because I know she gets a lot of shit for being my friend and I know she gets a lot of shit for being your friend too and she's always like the punching bag slash just representative I know for like her friends drama I know and as a member of Vanderpump Rules do you feel that way a little bit too like anytime you do any sort of press and I know you haven't done press I haven't done any so this is my first one like oh shit after this I'm like I should probably think about whether people are gonna ask me about Lala's breath and Randall and Lala. But whenever any of them go on Watch What Happens Live, Andy asks their opinion on every single cast member. So that was my least favorite part of doing reality TV. And when conversations have arisen where people have been like,

are you open to doing Vanderpump again? I'm like, I can't imagine going and doing an interview and being asked about Tom, James, Raquel, every person and like that being just the only thing that I have to offer like I I'm just I can't do it. No that honestly sounds like the worst part like I have my own problems like I can barely speak for myself let alone everyone else around me. 100 percent. So the book is out today it is off with my head you can get it everywhere right? Amazon, ebook, Barnes and Noble, indie bookstores. Off with my head.

The definitive basic butch, basic butch, basic bitch handbook to surviving rock bottom. Stassi Schroeder, New York Times bestselling author. We love to see two New York Times bestselling authors just like sitting on couches. Just chilling here check out the new book it's juicy you guys are gonna love it I'm gonna

I'm already on page seven and I got it this morning so that's pretty good I will be finishing it enjoy Stassi thank you so much for being here good luck with your book good luck with motherhood

good luck with podcasting with everything thank you for being a toaster and thank you for coming on the show thank you thank you for having me and for supplying me with so much content. So much podcast content every single day. That's what we do.

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That's so impressive.