The Toast - S5 Ep66: History 101 with Frank Catania: Tuesday, May 24th, 2022

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

Halsey claims record label wants 'fake viral moment' before releasing song (Page Six) (17:49)  Kim Kardashian is Featured in a New Campaign by Beyond Meat as the Company's First Chief Taste Officer (Yahoo Finance) (25:20)  Kanye West announces he is redesigning McDonald's food packaging with visual of 'reimagined' burger wrapper (Daily Mail) (35:43)  Edible 'burrito tape' for mess-free eats invented by John Hopkins students (NY Post) (38:56)  Brooklyn Beckham and Nicola Peltz Reveal Their Wedding Was Inspired by David Bowie and Iman (45:20)  Special Guest: Frank Catania, Real Housewives of New Jersey (50:16)  The Morning Toast with Claudia (@girlwithnojob) and Jackie Oshry (@jackieoshry) Merch: https://shopmorningtoast.com/ The Morning Toast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themorningtoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/bookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Morning Toast and happy, oh my god, it's only Tuesday. Hope everyone's having like a decent Tuesday. As good as can be, given the circumstances. Given the circumstances. Yeah. Per my last email. I'll follow up when it's Friday. And I will be O-O-O extremely soon. By E-T-D, I will be O-O-O.

What's E-T-D? E-O-D. Sorry, I haven't worked in an office in like 10 years happy tuesday welcome back to the morning toast i have bryce in tow with me because i need the spirit of bryce to get me through i'm so tired my aura sleep score is not good praise the lord plays the bryce plays the bryce i thought i thought maybe you didn't catch that. Never. Today's a really exciting day because it's Magnolia's birthday. Oh, yeah.

Two years old. Want to give a shout out to Knowles. Bruno is packing his things. Are you okay today? He's so excited to take you to the Maldives per your request. They're going to have a great romantic getaway. And thrice we'll be there in spirit. Are you done LARPing? We'll see. Yeah we'll see. It's Tuesday we've got a great show for you guys. Mediocre stories but high energy and enthusiasm from two of your favorite gals. Your favorite gals. That's us. Also your favorite gals spoke to your favorite

person yesterday. Frank Catania came on the toast the interview is already up on our YouTube you better motherfucking subscribe especially because the interview was so good so fun it's really a visual experience you know it's sensory overload best enjoyed on the telly but if you are in a situation where you can turn on the telly and you're listening as a podcast it's at the end of the episode and you will thoroughly enjoy just the preciousness let's talk about the frank experience yes um frank walked in 20 minutes early we stan a respectful king we do but i was pumping but you know what he took it like a champ and you know what i for some reason like i didn't feel like it was weird, you know, like he's a dad.

No, I feel like what, like for someone who's had kids, it doesn't phase you. But if it's someone who hasn't had kids, it would be so much weirder. Right. Like we were saying, like if Austin Kroll walked in on you pumping. I would have to flee this country. Yeah. But no, it like wasn't weird at all. And he gave you like such nice fatherly advice. He's like, don't blink, man. Don would have to move this country. Right. Yeah. But no, it like wasn't weird at all. And he gave you like such nice fatherly advice. He's like, don't blink, man.

Don't blink. Oh my God. He gave such great advice. He was being so cute before the show. He did a great like 30 minute interview. Nothing, you know, actually there was some good tea spilled about Jackie and about ultimate girls trip. So it's a juicy interview, but it's also just like, who is Frank Catania? Yeah. get to know Frank on a deeper level and I feel like once you reach that level he's the same Frank yeah no and that's what like my major takeaway from the from the show was like he is the same guy on the show as he was on this couch as he was when he walked in on you pumping and that that's really all you can expect from a hero it's it's it's more than what you can expect, I'm feeling encouraged to meet more of my heroes.

Because it was a positive experience. Yeah. And did you ever know that you're my hero? You know, I've been re-watching 30 Rock. And, like, I am Jenna Maroney to the point where, like, I hate me too. You know? I love Jenna Maroney. That's why it works yeah because

like she's my favorite character and she's you it's so true who am I by the way she's not my favorite character at all oh I love Jenna well what does that say about me because like self I see so much of myself in Jenna and she's probably my least favorite character you're self-hating Jenna what was your question who am I I think I'm Jack Donaghy I think like you wish you were no I think really think about I think I'm a combination honestly of Jack Donaghy and Kenneth the page I was gonna say you're giving Kenneth energy I give both because like I there's something very Jack about me no you're very authoritative but like you're Kenneth in the sense that like you have a moral compass and you will not let it no matter the entertainment Hollywood is calling,

no one can take you away from your moral compass. I would hope so. That's who I strive to be. Thank you for seeing me in that way. And that's very Kenneth. He's still the boy. At the end of the day, at the end of the show, spoiler alert, Kenneth becomes like this chairman. Deservedly so.

Deservedly so. But he's still that boy from Georgia. Yeah. And you're still that gal from New York from down the block totally um so that's your little 30 rock recap that's hard to say 30 rock recap 30 rock recap 30 rock recap 30 rock recap 30 rock recap you seem to be having an easy time it's not that hard we've got a great show for you guys today anything you want to catch up on has Haroldson doing besides just like breaking barriers left, right, and center?

He's actually doing really well. For every down, there is a swing back up. And he had a really good night, even though I couldn't get back to sleep, which is so frustrating. I even had to break out my Kindle in the middle of the night to lull me to bed. Because I'm reading this book, which is a good book. It's just a little slow. It's about the history of the Plaza Hotel. And so it's really just, you know, a picture of New York

from the Gilded Age till today. And it's interesting to see the way that like the hotel changed with the city during wartime, during depression, during times of great abundance, prohibition. It's just slow, but you know, it's perfect thing to put you to bed. Yeah. Because like sometimes you're reading a book that's like really juicy juicy that's like the worst thing you can do because you don't want to put it down no yeah exactly this is not that but I also think that the percentage is going

by really slowly because there's an extensive bibliography at the end so I think I'm going to get to like 70 percent and the book's over right that's happened to me before I feel extremely triggered by the word bibliography yeah and I mean it better be Chicago MLA yeah whatever MLM bibliography is an MLM it better be bibliography Lula Roe yeah MLA annotated yeah like that is so unbelievably triggering to me like just remember the days where like we had to write so many essays and they had like minimum page lengths and like we were doing everything in our power to make them longer who remembers making all the commas and the periods like three times three fonts bigger that was desperate time yes desperado

the margins of course of course the margins and then the bibliography like making it really wordy just to like contribute to the illusion that that your paper was long you know that your paper was good yeah of course and by the way there's, like, tools out there for kids now, like, to help with essay writing. And, like, we had none of that. It was bootstrapping. What tools? Like, there's literally a website called, like, writemyessay.com.

And, like, you can literally just start typing random letters about, you have to put in the subject, and you start typing random letters, and it generates an essay for you. You're lying. I swear. That's crazy. I mean, I'm sure it's a piece of shit like for me that it was dark days it was like yahoo answers like i like i'll literally never forget i wrote a whole paper on the um origins of ethiopian jews and like literally my entire paper was from a yahoo answer like forum did you citate them no you can't citate a yahoo answer no you can't but that's really a life hack as block quotes as long as you let them know where you found it but see the thing is with the the origin of the Ethiopian Jews it's actually quite a mystery as to like um and you

didn't solve it no of course not so it's like historians couldn't even solve it and I'm in the eighth grade supposed to they asked you to just no but like I don't I don't know but like I just didn't feel like I was up to the task okay and clearly it's still haunting you maybe you should seek a book on it maybe finally get some answers no I do believe that the origin story of Ethiopian Jews is like incredibly fascinating yeah but now I just associate it with my eighth grade term paper that's the thing about school what subjects that might otherwise be interesting to us, we just like automatically hate because it's in school, you know? It depends.

It all depends. It depends on the teacher. It depends on the stage of your life. It depends what else you have going on because like I'm so obsessed with the history of New York. It's so weird. I'm not obsessed with the present. Right.

Just the past of this town. And I actually took a class in college the history of New York and I loved it yeah so you like you would think I've already learned all these things but I literally will read stuff that should be something that's ingrained in me and it's like I'm hearing it for the first time also I watched Ken Burns's New York documentary so many of the same themes obviously yeah I guess I'm like on a different level in the sense that like I know an embarrassingly small amount of history. Like ask me something like about American, like any history, like just ask me.

And I swear to God, like I don't know it. OK, I'm going to just who was who signed the Emancipation Proclamation? Abe Lincoln. I know that. Look at you cheating this girly. Yeah, but like, you know, like beyond that. Okay. When did women get the right to vote? Give me a, like you can give me a decade. I have literally no idea, but I do know that we were suffragettes, right? Yep. We were. Suffragettes. Ask me another one. I don't know if it's suffragettes. I made it a little French.

me another one. I don't know if it's suffragettes. I made it a little French. Suffragette. Bonne nuit suffragette. Yeah. You want another one? Okay. When did the Titanic sink? I okay I only know this because of Downton Abbey 1912. Gorgeous. But up until I watched Downton Abbey I had no idea. I thought it was like 1500s. I don't know. Okay how did World War I start? Now World War I is tricky. It's really confusing. Because? Now, World War I is tricky. It's really confusing. Because it's not World War II. No. And nobody knows anything about it. I don't know who the major players were.

I do remember something about the Allies and submarines. Okay. But what was the question? Who was it between? How did it start? As all wars start. Cannons. Sure. Cannons into the ocean. Sure. No, let me guess let me guess okay no if you don't know it you're not like no no i know it how did world war one start um was it the price of gas no

was it okay i'll give you i'll it was an assassination of who? Oh, wow. JFK? Twisted. JFK. Is it not? No. No, I know that's like later. An assassination of, who else was assassinated? Lincoln?

No. That's really early. It's someone, not someone here. Oh, how the fuck am I supposed to know? Because it's just like, I don't know, I feel like it's seared into everyone's brains. Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Oh, yeah. Sorry, I forgot it was seared in my brain the archduke fran ferdinand fran franz the archduke franz ferdinand okay but also like it's so crazy history is so extensive but

i'm so focused on like 200 years but like you know cleopatra, Helen of Troy. Yeah, I feel like where I... We're using these pillows like therapy pillows. No, I know. I'm clinging to Bryce. Me too. I'm clinging to Bryce for dear life. It's like a stress pillow. If someone's like watching this show, they think we're like unwell.

These are literally the best pillows, the best things that ever happened to us. It's so crazy how we can get a gift that is so thoughtful that it's really the best gift I've ever gotten this my Ray Dunn mug like I'm just on a thoughtful gift trip and honestly a pillow like this like you know when you have your period and you're having cramps and you just like have to put a pillow up against your belly yeah do you know that feeling that's where I'm at right now if only these were heated that's next if you could like put like a microwave pad inside it's literally like a fire hazard waiting to happen yeah okay back to your history lesson yes like I really know nothing I had one more question

I was gonna ask you but I um I feel like you know American history like 13 colonies like that stuff I kind of know but everything else I don't have is 76 okay so where did the pilgrims land Plymouth Rock gorgeous yeah That's actually not my specialty. That's also like not for me. Like the Pilgrims. Like to me, I don't think of that as history. I think of it as like literally like fable. Because the way you learned it is like.

I was like, yeah. Yeah. So what were the three boats? The Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria. Yeah. Yeah. And. 1492.

Don't fuck with me. Oh, I wasn't. Yeah. I don't go back that like I don't that doesn't interest me when I'm reading historical fiction I'm not reading 1400 do you ever learn like an interesting fact like a trivia fact and you just wait for that fact to like become pertinent and people like how did you know that yes I just had one like I just learned something and I keep waiting for someone to bring it up like it's never gonna be brought up. Why don't you bring it up? Jackie let me ask you a question. Sure. In your you know opinion what state do you think has more miles of coast California or Maine? Well obviously you would think California so the answer is Maine. Yes

because California it's like just the coast so it goes all the way down the coast but Maine has all these little inlets so it's like yeah that's my interesting fact of the day so I think you could find a way to work that in to it's never going to come up naturally but is yeah how about this is Maine the state with the most coastal I don't know mileage I feel like it would be then if it's more than California so you could say oh I'm thinking of moving I I love the coast I'm tempted to move to Maine did you know that it has the most coastal mileage of any state yeah or when I find myself like talking about Plymouth Rock you know from the boats I could be like if only they landed in Maine the state with the most coastal mileage that's. That's really good. Yeah. Seamless. So yeah, that's your history lesson of the day.

What was I talking about? Oh, I guess the book I was reading. You couldn't fall asleep last night. We went on a major tangent. Major tangent. All to say that Harry's doing well. Yes. Very well. So I guess without further ado.

Yeah. It's like a Tuesday. It's a boring Tuesday. It's gloomy outside. It's quiet. So I don't know. It's kind of a good vibe though. It Tuesday it's gloomy outside it's quiet so I don't know it's kind of good vibe though it's a good vibe it's a good vibe for sure yeah I like a quiet Tuesday I like a quiet Tuesday but I prefer a quiet Tuesday where I don't have my period you know if I had to like put together the perfect Tuesday yeah so you have your period yeah I

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Our first story Halsey claims her record label wants a fake viral moment before releasing a song. Halsey claims their record label Capital Music Group won't release their new music until they create a fake viral moment. Halsey has given their label a real viral moment instead by calling out executives on TikTok over the weekend saying quote basically I have a song that I love and I want to release ASAP but my record label won't let me I've been in this industry for eight years and I've sold over 165 million records and my record company is saying I can't release the song unless they can fake a viral moment on TikTok they said everything is marketing basically it's being done to every artist these days I just want to release the music man and I deserve better tbh I'm tired and tbh I hear

Halsey but Halsey is also um in turn creating a viral moment for the song right not a fake one I think probably she realized that when she did this they would get the viral moment that they wanted now everyone's like what's the song what's the song right but do you think that this was like an intentional I think it's a little bit of both I think it's frustration but it's also a way for her to kill two birds with one stone and get exactly what she wanted which is to release a song and the record label got their moment but it also is exposing the record label for the record label um Halsey's pronouns are she and they so just moving forward um I feel like this is like a trend with a lot of artists on TikTok like either they try hard to make a TikTok viral moment or they like go on and um lament about the fact that they can't release until they have a

viral TikTok moment so to me this is just like the culmination culmination of both of those like part of you wants to like sympathize with um Halsey but then part of you is like but you're also doing the thing that they want you to do you know yeah but it's must be really frustrating and I mean TikTok is so influential in music right now so I understand the urge but you can't fake viral you can't make something go right viral and why can't we still also just get music on new music Friday like why can't we have both no and also I think that certain people are at a point in their career and I would include Halsey in that category who don't have to do dumb things like this like if you are up and coming and like the marketing around like the perfect example is um Tate McRae she's like

so TikTok-y like every time that's so funny I was just listening to her on Spotify yesterday and every time she has a new song she does the video on it releases like a clip of the lyrics people love it it becomes a moment and then she releases it it's like the perfect formula and for her it works and for someone of that level in their career like that's the stuff you need to do I do feel like Halsey is like a bit beyond that at this point. Like she really is like a pop queen legend. And like for her to still be playing these like silly games is dumb. And that kind of just,

I just feel like means she's like works for the record label who like doesn't really get her. Yeah. And she should be respected at this point. Like she's earned her stripes enough to know what her fans want and what's gonna hit. What is a hit? In general, like I think when people complain about this and they're not at this level like that's the game now there's always been a game in music and now it's TikTok yeah it might not be in another year but that's the game so you want to get in the music industry you have

to play the game but for Halsey it's like really like Taylor Swift isn't doing this you know yeah she does other stuff though yeah everyone has their own thing and Halsey knows like her brand and what would work well and what has worked well in the past. I think like, but actually this is her brand being open.

Maverick. And exposing the industry. But see, Halsey has been on the receiving end of viral campaigns on TikTok and it was totally natural. People were using her song

Just made you mad and I had no one and I had no one to share their own stories about like being in abusive relationships and that did make the song go viral and these things happen naturally so to like try and manufacture it is like not it's so tacky yeah and I would love to maybe you know of instances that were manufactured that you can tell that worked no that's the thing like the sheer nature of it being manufactured means it can't go viral viral is like so natural the craziest do you know what's going viral right now I don't even know it's from Real Housewives of Atlanta no one knows it's Kandi Burris legs and hips and body body I think it's like from an episode where they like recorded a song or something it's so random that's the thing it's like you can have the biggest song ever it's like

it's not about that it's like niche audios most like major major audios on TikTok you couldn't find the origin right if you wanted to uh wake up in the morning like we know the art we do but others don't like right it's so random and so to try and make it happen is so lame and that's why i think like charlie pooth like the way he goes about doing it people like really don't like because it's so obvious he's like on tiktok and he has a decent following he's like what if i made a song out of this and then he'll like show you the process of making any turn and then it's a song called light switch you know like he started the tiktok what if I made a song out of this and then he flicked on the light switch you turn me

on like a light switch and for me that was like so manufactured right but it's living rent free it did work in your mind yes it did work in sense, but I don't think it was nearly as successful as like those really kind of grassroots natural viral moments. But I do think an artist like Charlie Puth needs to resort to some hijinks like that. Exactly. And he's also like really perfect for it because he is an on the fly musical creator. He's doing what he should be doing. No, I agree.

He doesn't need not. Agreed. Now, wasn't you who said, someone said this to me like a couple months ago when I like started my Charlie Puth like hate train and somebody made the perfect point. And I don't know if it was you, but it probably was because who else do I talk to? They said Shawn Mendes became everything Charlie Puth was supposed to become. Not me.

I feel like that was such a good analogy because when you think of Charlie Puth's... Maybe it was just natural. The beginning of his career, like the first couple songs, it's been a long night. Now it's you, my friend. And like he was really becoming

like this thing and he was like so cute and everyone like loved him. And then like that's what Shawn Mendes did like bigger and better and like I literally forgot about Charlie Puth until he like started popping up on my TikTok yeah just like an interesting factoid thank you for the factoid I wonder who was the one who said that to me I think it was probably Snitch you talked to her too it was a good call yeah I just don't think about either of them honestly so oh I do like this is like why I couldn sleep last night. Because Charlie Puth was running through your mind.

No, and I was like, what did Charlie Puth do, like, that ruined all the momentum he had? We see that a lot in, like, people's careers. Like, they're having so much momentum. Like, them, like, you know that they're going to be the next big thing. And then it just kind of derails. Yeah, I would say probably poor management. Maybe a disconnect between their management and themselves. Them wanting to do one thing

management wanting to do another and they're just not going anywhere yeah that's like always sad when it happens yeah or maybe they're being suppressed but these days if you love someone you can have access to them yes so that's pretty cool yeah it's pretty cool to have access to the artists that you love. Oh, oh. I can hear them playing this on C100. Yeah, no. Who can make music that you love. Ay, ay. That's just something I wrote.

Thank you. You should send that to Charlie Puth. We should collab. 100%. Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of a collab, Kim Kardashian is featured in a new campaign by beyond meat as the company's first chief taste consultant this morning kim and beyond

meat dropped a video showcasing kim as their new cto chief taste consultant she announced that she will be featured in their new campaign as she is an icon synonymous. Campaign? Today's not my day. So if you do it again. No, it's you. But if you do it again, I don't have. No, listen, you just created. It's a campaign, a campaign with Kim. I love.

Yeah, that was intentional. I just. Not today. OK, I'm sorry. I apologize. No, no, I don't need an apology. It's just it's going to keep happening. I'm so sorry.

It's going to keep happening. It's not like. No, it's going to keep happening for you and for me. Like I'm going to. You just like to keep happening. It's not like a... No, it's going to keep happening for you and for me. Like, I'm going to keep... You just, like, can't speak today. I know. Kim will be featured in the campaign as an icon synonymous with impeccable taste in food, fashion, beauty, and more.

She will highlight the brand's delicious, nutritious, and sustainable product portfolio with her signature recipes and engaging creative content. I love this, by the way. First of all, Kim is, like is notoriously plant-based queen. Yes. So it's definitely a good... They align, the two brands. They are aligned.

I have to assume Kim just doesn't do any sort of sponsorship. I'm sure she got a chunk of percentage in this company. Or just a really big paycheck. Yeah, but it doesn't seem like it's going to be a one-time thing because she's the new chief taste officer. So like she's... She has a job at Beyond Meat. She's going into the office.

And by the way, you know who else just did that? You know, Carter's, the baby company, they did it with Hilary Duff. Cute. I was in like the back of a taxi and it was on like the ABC7. What's her title? Chief CMO, chief mom officer.

That's really cute. It was cute. If any other companies need a CMO, I'm available. I can work part-time, whatever you guys need. I'm also available for a CMO, a chief munchies officer. So if you need snacks, I can tell you which good ones to get. I won't go out and get them, but I can tell you which ones. You could be a CAO, a chief anti-officer.

I can be a chief anti-officer. I could also be a CFO, chief fun officer. Ooh, that's good. Yeah. That's really good. Okay, so- CPO, chief party officer. We're good yeah that's really good okay CPO chief party officer we're available for hire yeah seems to be like what brands are doing I'm here for it yeah and my rate is extremely reasonable it's just $27,000 a minute um do you think they get paid

a salary who these new officers no I think like this trend of celebrities becoming like employees at companies is them like doing a deeper long-term partnership as opposed to just like being a spokesperson and I do believe they take stock in the company okay yeah I'm sure perhaps Kim did this beyond meat is public uh but I'm sure she also got paid also the food that she was tasting in the video looked so good I mean for me it would be so good but do you feel like she can influence even you to try beyond meat chicken nuggets okay by the way I've had a beyond burger at Burger King I've had it like at a restaurant they had a beyond burger um I've had beyond a

couple times I just don't see myself choosing beyond over like gorgeous kosher ground beef you know well when there's rarely kosher available yeah so when they're when it's not available I haven't eaten it before have you had imitation chicken fingers I don't think so I have I've actually been making them a lot at home Gardein has a uh a delicious frozen chicken finger if Gardein's looking for a CTO the thing is I'm too close to the chicken fingers. Like, I'm too familiar with the taste, the texture, the crunch. But don't you ever have chicken that just hits you sideways? Nah. Sometimes there's nothing weird. I always feel like Bella Swan in that scene when she has the chicken

and when she's pregnant. You ever have a bad piece of chicken? I'm like. You know, I mean, I've had a bad piece of chicken in my life, and it's literally like a life-ruining moment for sure. But usually when I make them myself, like when I pop them in the air fryer, like from the freezer section, I can never get it right. Literally, they'll be black on the outside, raw on the inside.

I can't figure it out. I'm just following the instructions on the box. Why don't you use your oven? Does your oven not work? No, it does, but I have an air fryer, so. Oh, that's pretty cool. Do you have one have one i have one but it's not set up it's in storage because i don't have the countertop space for it your kitchen and then i saw on well i also have like a nespresso machine i have other things that you don't know if you just like if you wanted an air fryer you would make space for it i would but it would look it would be horrible i have a toaster

oven you got that baby but i have a microwave that's my kitchen didn't come with a microwave so it's on the counter that's like twisted yeah it's really weird but i have a shank i have a cool microwave though so i've made it work like you live in like a really nice apartment and there's like no microwave and it's in the whole building that's so weird it's are the same that that's just like why are we not maybe maybe they're taking a stand no you know who the developer was oh the mom the mom from confessions of teenage drama queen because she didn't believe in microwaves okay but i saw something on emily did notto's story the other day where her husband told her that an air fryer is just the same thing as using the convection

setting on your oven see it just doesn't feel the same because I cook on convection that's how I cook I just feel like Emily's husband Kyle is just trying to stop me from living my best life yeah but Kyle is businessman Beau I know so like we're forced to listen to everything yeah things no for sure and by the way it's definitely made me look at my oven more flatteringly yeah oh you're an air fryer yeah I mean and I guess if you were to like just like really boil it down like an air fryer. Yeah. I mean, and I guess if you were to, like, just, like, really boil it down. Like, an air fryer is just, like, a small oven. It's a small convection oven. Right.

I think. That's what he said. I'll have to look into it. But I will not be getting rid of my air fryer. I don't think you should. Even though I literally never use it. You've never made anything edible. But you know what I do do?

But you know what I do do? If I have like mozzarella sticks like from the diner that like they took them out of the fryer too soon. I'm like, like they're still kind of like brown instead of golden. I'll pop them straight from the tinfoil diner casing straight into the air fryer. Don't put the tinfoil in there. Oh, yeah. No way. Or if you had them, you got them a few hours ago you didn't finish them you can pop them back in works for

chicken tenders too yeah but something funny about you is that like when you cook nothing comes out good no I've never successfully made something correctly never in my life like you'll be like I'm making panela vodka from scratch. And I'm drunk. No and it's like you'll show me a picture of it. It looks amazing and perfect. Like nothing you've ever made has tasted right. No the panela vodka was literally so vodka I almost vomited on the plate. I made over the pandemic I tried a bunch. So plain pasta with like butter or sauce like that doesn't count. Didn't you make chili recently and it was sickly?

Um, I wouldn't say sickly. I would say different, you know? Unique. Yeah. But to your credit, it must be hard comparing what you're making to what Ben makes. No, also, I really don't need to cook. Like, I literally live with a chef. Right, right.

But then also everything you're going to make is going to pale in comparison to the chef. Yeah, but like, if I have to cook dinner, and by the way, when I have children, like, I will, I can't be ordering it every night, right? Like, I have to cook. I know how to make, like, four things. The four things are schnitzel,

and I have a very good recipe, but, like, I would say one in every four pieces is raw. I can make taco, taco, like people tacos you know you do love taco I do but like you know I wouldn't eat the big chunks of meat because they're probably rare um I can also make bolognese I can make a bolognese sauce but the sauce um does have mold in it and the fourth thing that I can make is grilled cheese. Is it just three? Yeah, I guess.

Chili. I really can't make chili, Ben can. Those are the three things. Rice. I can make rice, minute rice specifically. Actually, nobody makes better rice than me. Except sometimes if I can. That must be true because you're a rice connoisseur and like you love your own rice.

I do, but so like I make it in like basically in a big Tupperware, I put like a cup of rice and then a cup of water. And sometimes if I use like a Tupperware that's not like 100% clean, the rice does have this like dirty dish smell. So that's why I order in multiple times a day. Why don't you ever make the bags of rice? It's not the same. Oh I've started making those they're pretty good. No it's not the same. It's crazy how you can make a bag of rice in 90 seconds or you can make rice on the stove and it's 45

minutes. And one broken pan later because you're not getting that shit off the bottom. No and I did that last week. I mean I was like I want like fresh rice no sodium whatever and one in every 10 grains was still plasticky but do you know what like I actually TikTok has really made me want but I don't have the counter counter space cooker yeah you need one I know and like I love that little paddle that you need one more than you need an air fryer I know because basically every meal I have I have grilled chicken and rice I've I don't really have meals without rice. I'll have meatballs and some rice. Yeah. Some pasta sauce. Rice is like water for you. I fucking love rice.

Juliana, I eat a lot of rice. I need a rice maker. But then also. Okay, I know what I'm getting for your birthday. No, but the thing is, I'm still the one who has to put the rice in the rice maker. And it will be bad. Like, it's just, it's not something I can do. Okay.

Okay. Are you ready for our next story, which is more food news? We actually have a lot of food news today. Kanye has announced that he's redesigning McDonald's food packaging with a visual of re-imagined burger wrapper. So he took to Instagram to post this new burger wrapper that really looks like the future. It's like a square.

I don't know what it's made out of, but he's posted it to Instagram and he said next week it's fries. I guess he's redesigning their packaging too. Yeah. What do you think? I don't really know. Like as a McDonald's connoisseur, I just feel like. This affects you.

I'm definitely deeply affected by this. I also think that like there was nothing wrong with the initial packaging. If anything, it's I think it's nostalgic for a lot of people like there's a lot of love associated with those old rappers so I just don't I don't really believe in fixing things that aren't broken you know yeah but I do love like a unique partnership slash concept for Kanye to express his creativity and as long as he's not like yelling at Kim and Pete like I'm happy. And he's not like changing recipes that you love. Also, even though this is a new futuristic design, it's still pretty classic for McDonald's.

So I think I love an update of rebrand. I mean, I guess this is just an excuse to go get McDonald's, which I didn't really need. But now that I have one, lunchtime. Speaking of new packaging, the Spritz Variety Pack is now available. Yeah, Spritzzsociety.com you can get all the flavors in one box you don't if you want to try them this two of each flavor cans two of each it's so great love that synergy that was beautiful yeah and it was designed by Kanye mm-hmm allegedly cousin allegedly um so yeah I just like I'm trying to find a fuck to give and it's hard because um

I don't but like cool you know yeah cool whatever like whatever cool synergy brand I didn't think that like the burger box was that like the new one was like that cool but how cool is it gonna be it's a burger box and they churn out millions a day like and then they go in the trash and it was never a problem to begin with yeah but they like wrap it up and just didn't have a lot of love in the box no but they wrap it first and without a lot of love I would say I've never experienced okay but so it's Kanye's partnership ensuring that every worker has love in their heart this looks like love honestly it looks like kind of gross well you wouldn't want it anyway no but um I just I just think now that Kanye has his foot in the door at McDonald's, he could make some real changes to things that actually need to be fixed,

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Edible burrito tape for mess-free eats has been invented by Johns Hopkins students. A group of engineering students at Johns Hopkins University unveiled a groundbreaking and mouth-watering invention called Tasty Tape, an edible adhesive to keep all your favorite ingredients tucked inside burritos and wraps so it's an edible piece of tape to keep your burrito together because these enterprising students were just so discouraged that their burritos were constantly falling apart they spent the school year perfecting the edible adhesive strips as part of their senior design project she one of the students was eating her burrito one day, and it was just everywhere.

And she was like, you know what? This is a problem to be fixed. Tasty Tape is made up of an edible adhesive comprising a food-grade fibrous scaffold and some other stuff that's edible that keeps the burrito together. It was unveiled weeks ago as part of the Whiting School of Engineering's Design Day. Did you see that? The group of the Whiting School of Engineering's Design Day. Did you see that?

The group of female chem... Did you see that? I just want you to know it was made by female chemical and biomolecular engineering students. We will look to... Oh, sorry, never mind. I thought it was a fuck that I gave,

but it wasn't. No, but this is really why it's so important to go to college. Yeah, right. That's what I was going to say. And get a degree in engineering. I can just see these students' parents parents rolling their eyes like 20 grand a semester to make up a dumb ass invention no I actually think this is like a decent invention no I don't

no I think that plenty of people would like people love burritos they fall apart they should go on shark tank but see the thing is here's the. A good burrito doesn't fall apart. Oh. So could it be tasty, but you just didn't have the engineering? You know, when they don't like wrap it tight enough in the tinfoil, like that is poor burrito making. What about at home burritos? It is hard.

Burritos, in my opinion, shouldn't be made at home. It's really like. Maybe now they can be with tasty tape. So dumb. Like beyond. But I think people are like, I actually Tape. This is so dumb. Like. Beyond. But I think people are. Like I actually think. And even like I'm sure Chipotle could license it.

Other places too. Like they really could have big business on their hands. I know. But like who wants to eat an adhesive even if it's edible? It probably doesn't taste like anything. Maybe it's made of bean. I know. What if it's made of rice?

She'll be there. But you also don't love burritos. So this isn't a story for you. No you also don't love burritos so this isn't a story no I don't love burritos but I do eat a lot of like burrito shaped like wraps you know yeah oh you had a wrap that was falling apart at the seams you went for lunch over the weekend because that was a poorly made wrap but I get that wrap at that place for lunch literally like multiple times a week and it's usually wrapped to perfection I don't have one complaint yeah so again it's like we're creating it's like you know what it is it's like the straws it's like the problem with plastic straws explain we're creating a solution

but we're not fixing the problem wow i'm literally on a roll ready i'm listening like people ban plastic straws because they were ending up in the ocean sure but why don't we ban how they're ending up in the ocean, which is people throwing them in, you know? So it's like we're not actually getting to the root of the problem. We're just creating a solution that doesn't actually fix the initial problem. Same with this adhesive tape. You should ban the people who are making bad wraps. The problem is the poorly made burritos and wraps. But we're creating an adhesive.

Oh, let's just keep making bad burritos and eat like chemicals at like this is so dumb wow sorry it seems like you do give a fuck yeah actually I tricked myself into giving one I agree I don't totally see how it's congress with the straws you don't see my analogy uh I do I do but I also feel like okay, so there are a lot of like tools that are helpful for things that people can't do properly at home, you know? But like, see, the thing is with plastic straws, it's not like people are just throwing plastic straws. That's the issue with the plastic straws.

It's like, there's so much plastic, there's so much waste. And like the straws don't even make up 1% of it. Right. So like, people are throwing all this shit in the ocean, including plastic straws. So you think the way to solve that is just to get rid of plastic straws? Moronic. And then have you seen this shit in the ocean including plastic straws so you think the way to solve that is just to get rid of plastic straws moronic and then have you seen the masks in the ocean have you seen the turtles wearing masks no so like the problem is obviously why is this trash ending up in the ocean let's tackle that instead of banning plastic straws we could maybe

reduce plastic use across all categories not just target one yeah like the target one and you know what the banning plastic straws it's a little ableist a hundred percent hundred percent it's a little ageist the elderly a hundred percent babies rely on straws hundred percent you're only thinking about yourself hundred percent don't get me started on the straws no me neither because like when they first started banning straws they were like oh because they're killing turtles in the ocean i was like oh my that's terrible yeah let's ban plastic straws. No, me neither. Because, like, when they first started banning straws, they were like, oh, because they're killing turtles in the ocean. I was like, oh, my, that's terrible. Yeah, let's ban plastic straws. And then, like, one day it occurred to me.

I was like, wait. How are the straws getting in the ocean? And it's, like, human error. Yeah. So that's the problem. Not the fact that plastic straws exist. No, and it's not, like like only the straws are slipping through right and ending up in the ocean that one picture of a turtle with a straw shoved up the so's right

yeah but like there's still other terrible things happening with other plastics oh the things that keep beer cans together oh yeah those are bad those are bad and like beyond unnecessary yeah and you know who doesn't use those spritz put it in a box bitch put it in a box it doesn't use those put it in a box don't use them put it in a box spritzsociety.com co-host yeah so like i just think like while a lot of these movements like people start with good intentions they're placating they're i don't really know what that means but felt like the right time to use the word anyways i don't know how to feel about this story. Because on the one hand, sure, decent invention. On the other hand, Johns Hopkins University.

Engineers. Engineers, biomedical students. No, it's beyond them. Biomolecular engineering students. Unless this was like extracurricular, you know? It was part of their design project. But that's just, they only did it as asked. No, these are like the smartest kids. It's not the students' fault. You want to design something? Like, design a cure for cancer, you know? It was part of their, like, design project. But that's just, they only did it as asked. No, these are, like, the smartest kids.

It's not the students' fault. You want to design something, like, design a cure for cancer. You know? It's not the students' fault. No, it's not the students' fault. It's curriculum. It's these institutions. It's the curriculum.

It's institutions. You said it, sis. I said it. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yeah. Because some of our favorite people are on the cover of British Vogue being stunning bride and groom that they are. Brooklyn Beckham and Nicola Peltz

are on the cover of British Vogue recreating some wedding looks and revealing that their wedding was inspired by David Bowie and Iman. Well, I was going to ask if you thought that the cover was like a photo from like the wedding photographer

or if they got back in their wedding looks. I think they like got back into or if they got back in their wedding looks I think they like got back into character and they took a bunch of wedding themed pictures which I don't mind it's kind of weird that it came out after the wedding as opposed to like because I feel like once you're married like you're irrelevant no like your dress isn't storage like you don't care yeah but when you're a fiance a blushing bride-to-be, there's so much buzz, you know? So I would have liked to see this last month, and it would have made me, like, realize how excited I was for their wedding.

But it's still gorgeous, and honestly, as far as couples on the cover of a magazine, it doesn't get better. No, it's really, it's quite something. It's ethereal, it's elegant, it's beautiful. It's really striking yeah as are they and I have come to like really become obsessed with them but like I'm even more obsessed with the family dynamic now like you're more obsessed with the drama and the shade and like the possible toxicity we don't really know but like we're pretty sure no it adds up that

there's a little bit of beef and in-law tension because Because you want to know why? It would be too perfect without. Yeah. It wouldn't be fair. Yeah, but we all saw the blinds from the wedding and the speeches. Yeah. And the distance. But I feel like that's just like sometimes like typical wedding behavior, you know? Because planning a wedding is so.

Toxic. Toxic. And by the wedding, like it's hard to, you know, put your differences aside. And so maybe they're all fine, but it was just a long. And I'm sure a wedding like that it was a long process yeah I'm just really curious about the relationship between Victoria and Nicola like to me that I think is the most interesting I always up until the wedding I really thought that Victoria loved her because she like would post her on her Instagram even before they were engaged but the the whole last name thing threw me off yeah and apparently there was like a speech and Nicola wasn't even in there for it.

And they only talked about the kid, Brooklyn. Yikes. It's interesting, but they look beautiful on the cover. Yes. And hopefully the families can put their differences aside at Christmas. Yeah. And it seems like Brooklyn and Nicola are so happy and that's all that matters. Yeah.

And like that their star is like truly rising. I feel like for a while Nicola was like really like just when I was watching her career peripherally, like she was doing the most to like be the most and wasn't becoming the most. And now I feel like where she's at a place in her life where like this wedding and this courtship, like put her on the level that I think she was dying to be on for a while.

She can just be Nicola. Right. She doesn't have to act or, we love her for who she is. Right. Because I don't think I've ever seen her act no but i think she's in we did this already this imdb journey already but i do feel like she's getting buzzed for something maybe it's just her wedding probably anyways congrats great uh great cover but it's a

british vogue snag so elegant yeah there's something so and i didn't think of it yeah there's something so sickening about british vogue like yeah they do a good job it's very aristocratic you know yeah well it's also the editor there edward yeah yeah it's just cooler it's very edgy but that's because of him yeah yeah but also because it's british like let's be real but it's also because of him but it's also american could be that way you know but it's like as an american like i perceive like british is like high society cool you know like that's me being a loser i understand i understand that's our show you needed to know every single story every morsel every morsel every detail every crumb um but if you're listening to this podcast it's not over yet

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Happy birthday, Magnolia. We love you guys. Have an amazing day, and we'll see you tomorrow. Bye. Welcome back to The Morning Toast. We are so excited to be sitting down with someone whose name is constantly on our lips. Like, if I'm being honest, someone we're obsessed with, who we finally have connected with. It is the one, the only Frank Catania. Hello, Frank! Oh my god. Ladies, thank you so much for having me. I'm very, very excited to be here. In fact, I'm a little nervous. No, don't be nervous. We're huge fans. Oh my god. Thank you so much. They say never meet your heroes, but in person, you're quite lovely. Oh, I was gonna look through the door with your heroes, but in person, you're quite lovely. Oh, I was going to look through the door. You're heroes.

You're a gentle giant. Thank you very, very much. Yes, I am. What do you bench? We got up there. We did 565 pounds. Holy cow. I take my lifting very seriously. Can you walk me through the last couple years of your life?

A couple of years ago, you're unknown, just a regular guy in New Jersey, being a dad, working, construction, working out clearly. And all of a sudden your life gets flipped upside down because your ex-wife is on a show. But Jersey is one of those really unique franchises where the husbands are just as entertaining, just as popular, just as famous. so you've really just kind of catapulted into another universe in the last couple years it's it has been a transformation which i never expected right i gotta be honest with you again because delores is not even my wife she's my ex-wife right so i didn't know how i was going to fit in at all if any and uh first couple years were a little rough because everything

in your life comes out, all right? But then after that, then you start getting the DMs, and then you start getting a following. Then you start seeing what's going on. Then you become more integrated as part of the show, and then the men became more a part of the show here. Let me tell you something. Whatever you see on the men on A Real Housewives of New Jersey

is not scripted whatsoever. I believe that. You couldn't write that, honestly. And if you could, they would do it on other franchises, which they don't. And like, they try to, and you can tell like, oh, they're doing, trying to do the Jersey thing, but it doesn't hit like yours does. It's so true. What do you attribute to the dynamic, like the magic sauce of all of you guys? Is it that you're friends in real life, that some of you knew each other before? Or is it just that like,

Joe Gorga won't let you guys not be friends? What is it that brings you all together in that way? Jackie, I think you hit exactly on it. And it had to do with the fact, number one, we are friends. Beyond what you see on TV, we hang out. And I think, especially myself, Joe Gorga, Joe Beningo, we come from the same background. We come from the same areas. And it just hits. Cut from the same cloth.

Right? Exactly right. Quality fabric. There you go. Do you watch every episode? No. What I do as part of the cast, we get it a couple days beforehand. And I watch it on my phone just to make sure they didn't do anything too bad that week

to embarrass my family. And if I didn't, if I'm around come Tuesday nights, I'll watch it. But if not, I already saw it already. Right, got it. And what do your kids think about the show? They're not on it that much. Frank is more than your daughter. But what is their overall takeaway?

Do they like being on camera? My daughter, no. My daughter is a fight between Dolores and Gabby all the time. Gabby, no. Yeah. My daughter, my daughter is, is, is a fight between Dolores and Gabby all the time. Gabby, you gotta film, do me a favor,

come film. And when she films, she, believe me, she's a team player. Yeah. Yeah. Frankie,

Frankie's a little bit more, you know, a part of the show. Yeah. A lot of times, we go places, and we go to take pictures, and Gabby's there,

they don't realize Gabby's part of the family. Right. Right. But Gabby's, out of everybody in the family, Gabby's the most accomplished. Yeah. Rightby's part of the family. Right. Right. But Gabby's, out of everybody in the family, Gabby's the most accomplished. Yeah.

Right? Well, you were just telling us she's going traveling to save rhinoceroses. That's our daughter. And no matter what Dolores and I say, it doesn't matter.

She has such a strong personality. She's going to South Africa to dehorn the endangered rhinos so the poachers don't go after them. That's awesome. Neither one of us wanted to do it.

It's so dangerous, but you know, she really, okay, I'll see yous later. That's awesome. Exactly. Yeah. Okay, so I have so many questions for you, but the first is some bombshell news came out recently that you are in a relationship. Yes.

And for some of us, Dolo, Frank, Stans, like that's... It hurts. It hurts. It hurts for sure. And I know you've said it before, and I don't want to like, you know, beat the dead horse too much, but like, why? Why can't you make it work? I know she's in a relationship now too, but like, why can't you and Dolo make it work?

Where you see myself and Dolores now took a long time, all right? It didn't happen overnight. And I'm so afraid to screw it up. If it's not broken, don't fix it. Our family dynamic right now is so good. It's so good and that's why I had such an issue initially with Pauly because Pauly just, I don't know, he didn't seem like he wanted to be part of it. And Pauly is Dolo's new man, correct?

Yes, exactly, yes. But no, I love Dolores and I'll do anything for her. It's just that I see Dolores now as someone different than a wife or a sexual figure to me. It's a shame. I mean, it had to be a year ago, two years ago. I walk in, she's in a bathtub, and we're just talking, like my sister. It's come such a long way.

A different place. Yes, exactly. You guys really set the mold for divorced couples and your family. What do you think is the key to that? What advice would you give to people who are maybe in your situation that you were in 10, 15 years ago to get to the place that you're at now? Absolutely. And it has to do with the fact that, remember, I was a divorce attorney for over 20 years.

So I've seen it. I've seen how bad it is. I went through a divorce where my parents didn't talk. So I had two birthdays. I had two holidays. And despite what happened between Dolores and I, Dolores promised that she would never allow our family to be like that. And the kids, whatever happened had nothing to do with the kids.

It wasn't the kids' fault. It's our fault. So why make them suffer? Honestly, I don't think my kids even knew that we were divorced until they were like 18 years old. They just thought we lived separate. Right, right. And dated other people.

Right, right. So they didn't, you know. So, it was, it's, Dolores is a strong woman. Dolores is a strong woman to put aside everything that ever happened in order to make sure that our family wouldn't suffer. No, it's really admirable. Right? And I gotta be honest with you.

I say the proof is in the pudding. Look at my kids. Yeah. I'll put my kids up against anybody. I'm so proud of them. Yeah. Do you and Frankie, like, the show has been, over the last couple years, so good for you and Frankie in the sense that, like,

all these young girls are like, oh, my God, Frankie, Frankie, Frankie. And all the older women are like, oh, my God, Frank, Frank, Frank. Do you guys, like, do you get a lot of DMs? Does Frankie get a lot of DMs from ladies? Yes, we both get a lot of DMs. Yeah, I imagine. Yeah, and my Instagram used to be Frank Catania Jr. And Frankie was Frank Catania.

Oh, that's confusing. Oh, yeah. So you would get some of his messages. Well, no, he got many more of mine. To the point where I said, let me change mine to Frank Catania Sr. All right, to stop. Because Frankie calls me up and goes dad you gotta see this one it's it's it's interesting it's very interesting I wake up every morning to

an adventure on my Instagram would you go out with someone who DM do you or honestly it's uh yeah I I would I would consider if I wasn't in a relationship yes I would definitely consider it so how did you meet your current girlfriend? Oh, yeah. I've known her, guys, we go back like 10 years. Oh, that's nice. All right? She was a fitness competitor, and I used to train her.

All right? And then about three years ago, when the two of us got together, we had a little bit of a hiatus in between, and now we're back together. And that hiatus in between is when that girl from texas that came up on the show got it all right came in for a little while your timeline is perfect all right exactly yeah i made sure of it before i came all right i forgot that you trained theresa yes she one of your most difficult clients no not at all not at all in fact i'm gonna be honest with you theresa was probably one of my easiest really because whatever I

told her to do all right she did it yes she's in a nice way I would call Teresa an animal when it came to training all right girl does not sleep I'll get a text message at 1130 a night from I'll get a text message at 5 o'clock in the morning from her I tell her this is what you eat for the day that is what three say dedicated to beyond description. Yeah. Well, let's talk about this most recent season. It was a really good season.

And you, of course, were in the middle of everything. This whole Jennifer Serena saga. Thank you. Can you set the record straight on what you believe to have happened between Jennifer, Margaret, you, everyone? Absolutely. Jennifer, I don't know. Jennifer's saying that I said something. I said there was a woman.

Not once, and I'll put it on the record again, not once did I ever think that Evan ever cheated. Okay. Ever cheated, all right? And I know Evan very well. I do know Evan. What I did do is I received a DM from somebody who I didn't even know all right sent me a picture of a woman all right I don't know from where or anything else tells me this is the girl that Evan cheated on Jackie with I

didn't know who the girl was all right it didn't have an Instagram with this writing I couldn't follow an Instagram and I don't recall ever saying anything but me and Bill were out to dinner and I gonna be honest I know Bill doesn't lie okay I know Bill doesn't lie. Okay? I know Bill doesn't lie. So it was either a misunderstanding, all right, where maybe I said to him, I said, somebody sent me a picture. When Bill went home and said, oh, Frank knows the girl that Evan cheated on. Got it. All right? Which absolutely not.

All right? I mean, listen, Bill admitted to Jennifer that he had an affair. All right? He's not a liar. Bill's not a liar. But to this day, I'm a guy's guy. Bill didn't cheat. As far as I'm concerned, Bill didn't cheat.

That's extremely toxic, if I'm going to be honest, when Bill literally said that he did. I just think he might have been drunk at the time. Coerced. Coerced. Can you imagine waking up Being woken up at 3 o'clock in the morning

By Jennifer leaning over the top of you Telling you you cheated I look up honestly Night after night after night I'd say I cheated too Wow that's an extremely hot take It's a very hot take I don't know if I agree with it at all

But I appreciate the creativity Can you give us a little insight Into what's going on between the Gorgogiu Diches? Because it doesn't appear to be good. Well, obviously what you saw on the reunion. And Watch What Happens Live when they were talking about his podcast. Yes. From what I know, it's not, they don't talk. First of all, neither one talked very much about it whatsoever.

But from what I see, no, there's not much communication between the families right now. And you guys have started filming. Right. Is that something that's brewing? We don't, we just started. All right. I don't know what's going to happen. But I saw things on social media about Melissa, where Melissa said, I washed my hands of it.

I'm done trying to keep the families together. Right. I'm done trying to keep the families together. I. I'm done trying to keep the families together. I think that's fair. Is that right? Yes. It's fair. Yes.

So at this point, I don't know for sure what's happening, but I don't see anything good happening. And what is the status of Dolo's relationship with Teresa? Because her not being invited to the engagement party, and I saw that this week was Teresa's 50th birthday, Louie took everyone to Tulum. Dina was there and Dola was not.

Listen, Dina and Dolores will not be in the same place. Got it. All right? There's been an issue brewing for them for a couple of years. And I got to be honest,

I don't even know what exactly it is. All right? But I do know that it's deep. All right? And I also know that Teresa is best friends

with Dina. Okay? And she's good friends with Dolores, but I know she's best friends with Dina yeah okay and she's good friends with Dolores but I know she's best friends with Dina and regardless of what anyone says including Teresa my opinion is to why Dolores was not invited to the engagement party is because Dina was there yeah all right what about the wedding I listen I don't know what's going on with the wedding I don't know are you invited no I won't be invited you won't no I won't be invited why not won't? No, I won't be invited. Why not? As a guest of Louis?

No, me and Louis aren't that close. We're not that close. Are they getting married soon, like during this season of filming? That's what I understand. But they're not going to invite the whole cast? I don't know. I don't know. Supposedly, I think towards the end of the summer, I think, from what I hear.

Guys, you know what's funny? People come up to me and know more about the show than I do. I believe that. Nobody tells us anything. Right. Nobody tells us. Supposedly, we have some new girls coming on this year. I know nothing.

I know nothing about it. And Jackie is a friend of, have you heard that? You know, I didn't know for sure. I went out to dinner the other night with Jackie and Evan, and yes, I heard yes. She is a friend of. And what about Tracy and Tiki? I heard Tracy's gone. I heard Tracy's gone, but at the same time, I've got to be honest, Jackie, I heard may be coming back. We don't

know about Tracy. So nothing's definitive. Nothing's definitive ever here. We didn't agree with Jackie's demotion at all. I think she had a great season. I think she had a great season. I thought she had a great season. Her best yet. Yes, 100%. Not only did she come out with respect to the eating disorder, which I know wasn't easy for her.

Of course. But at the same time, listen, I know one thing you shouldn't do, right, is stand up to Dolores because I've seen what Dolores can do. Yeah. But Jackie stood up to Dolores. She held her own. Yeah, right? She did hold it.

And until Dolores, Dolores knows better than ever get physical but once it got physical it would be you know picking up Jackie's pieces right at that point so everybody know but no I do shit and I look at Jackie evolving over the time she's been on the show yeah she came on as a timid little rabbit all right the point where now she speaks her mind she came out with eating disorder yeah I like Jackie I like Jackie right I like her in the beginning and I've had like a full 180 on her so I thought like for them to pull her back now no she's just getting started thank you I did think the same thing yeah you know so on an average when you guys are not filming how often do you see the boys the other house has this I see Joe Benningo probably at least once or twice week. I see probably Joe Gorga once every two weeks. Bill Aiden and Evan probably once every month, once every six weeks. That's nice.

I just went to Bill. Bill just did it. I was hoping. He just did a surgery on me. I had a little basal cell, all right, carcinoma, which he removed from my chest. And I was just hoping. Please, I hope Jennifer didn't get it in his ear before I came in today. I said, because shit, this is going to hurt. when Bill does a surgery for you does he charge you uh that's between me and Bill but I gotta be honest with you guys I that was the first time

I ever used the service as a Bill incredible really incredible not only from the walking in and it wasn't just me because I'm watching everybody else in the waiting room. The way his staff treats people, the way Bill, Bill is so professional. When he takes me in the room, we don't even talk about the show. We don't even talk about the show. All right? And the guys look at me. Regardless of what you say, I'm a big pussy.

I'm a big pussy. I'll cry. I'll cry. I can see it. All right? So Bill, make sure I don't hurt. Make sure I don't hurt. And he was great. He was great. That's so nice to hear. Yeah, he's good. I'll cry. I can see it. All right? So I said, Bill, make sure I don't hurt. Make sure I don't hurt. And he was great.

He was great. That's so nice to hear. Yeah, he's good. He was good. So what do you think is like, because we watch all the franchises, and there have been husbands who have come and go in certain plot lines. And you guys have this really magical way of totally being a part of the drama while also disassociating from it at the exact same time.

And I think that's why you've been able to create really like a second group of housewives, house husbands. How do you do that? How do you sit, because you have so much love for Dolores, and let's say someone slighted Dolores and then you have to hang out with their husband. All the guys on the show basically it's an unwritten pack,

an unspoken pack, that we do not get involved in a woman's drama. So if they say something about our wives, or they say something with respect to something that our wives did, or ex-wives in my situation, all right, we don't take it personally, all right? This year got a little bit personal with Bill and Evan, and I gotta be honest with you, Evan was sitting next to me, all right? I was surprised as shit when he said that, all Yeah. But otherwise, we do. We try to keep it out of, right?

Try to support our better halves, but at the same time, we try to keep it out of our relationships. And I think we've done a pretty good job. And the guys have been a part of the storyline. I don't think it's my choice. Because one year we got Evan, next year then it's Bill,

then it's Louie. And believe me, it's not a choice of having any of those storylines up. Right. Because they've all been through hell and back. I mean, Louie's still going through it. What do you mean?

Louie's still going through it. I mean, with the social media and the post and Teresa defending him, you know. Do you believe that Margaret was the one talking to the girls and putting all this stuff out about Louie? No, of course not.

Absolutely not. No, I definitely do not. absolutely not I know that Louis has some disgruntled ex-girlfriends and I know how vocal they are I know how they listen they're they got some deep deep embedded hatred towards them right and it was sort of effective because he shared the reunion that he actually got let go from his company yeah he did like it made an impact yes he did that's a company he started which is so crazy you know

absolutely 100% but you remember something you know to put it bluntly guys and I swear you don't fucking Margaret all right Morgan's not gonna come after you unless she's got a she's got her into Arsenal yeah she she builds up her arsenal and gets to the bottom of it before she mentions it. Teresa made a mistake, in my opinion, by not letting Louie talk. Agreed. Because when he finally spoke at the reunion, it was very redemptive for him, but it can't undo the months of turmoil that he experienced. So well said. Right? Exactly. And the entire year, both myself and Joe Gorg have been telling Louie, Louie, do me a favor.

Talk. Yeah. Because when he talks to us and we're talking, you can't help but, number one, like him. And number two, he's very articulate. Yeah. He's very articulate. But Teresa, every time Louie goes to talk, Teresa, screaming and yelling. Yeah.

And she takes away from him explaining what all the questions people have. Right. She made him look bad. She didn't give him the opportunity to help himself. Thank you. Which of the ladies would you say you are most afraid of? Dolores, obviously. I've been at the other end of Dolores many a times.

That's fair. Otherwise, I'd probably have to say the one I'm probably most afraid of is the one I get along best with, and that's Margaret. Yeah. We are huge Margaret supporters here Yeah, and overall you'd be honest. We are the closest with more great job. Oh you are like yes. Yes. Yes Yep, absolutely Joe Joe's I was just on phone this morning because he works for us. We are you do work for him Yeah, that makes sense. Oh, right. You guys start like a company, you know soup to nuts house husband construction. I love it

I love it. Keep it keep your eyes open yeah keep your eyes open and wait and you are confirmed still living with David yes and you're loving it I gotta be honest David don't want me to leave it's you know David's got a beautiful house a big house we just built and he was there basically by himself most of the time and David does work long hours and just to have somebody there with him he loves it and he's he's a crazy great roommate and it's a shame because but through dolores david is truly one of my probably one of my four best friends that's so crazy very modern right it is it is exactly right you know when you and dolo start

entering into new relationships i imagine there's a a learning curve with the new person because the way you guys operate your family is not common correct and i imagine that it takes the person a little while to it has to be you have to be a secure person you have to be a secure person and that's one of the reasons again with dolores's new boyfriend paulie um i reached out when I saw it getting serious, and I said, Paulie, let's grab lunch or let's grab dinner, you know? And he was a little standoffish, all right? And no, he said no, all right? Because, and the reason I did it was, the more you see Dolores and I together,

the more you see you have nothing to worry about. Yes. All right? You have nothing to worry about. Because it used to be with my girlfriend, and when Dolores was dating David, we'd all be at the Shore House because the Shore House is the one place where everybody goes together. All right? My kids are down there.

Dolores is down there. Everybody's there together, and you're down there, you know? And you just see. And I was just telling the story this morning, all right, with Dolores. This is Dolores. This is typical Dolores. We were never always like this. We went through a nasty divorce, okay? Finally got to the point, I said, Dolores, come on. We got to just stop. I said, listen, just give me the shore house.

Give me the shore house. We just built a new house. I said, seriously? You can have everything else. So anyway, we do it. Go down to shore. Divorce is over. Dolores packs her clothes up on the third floor. Put on a suitcase. I'm saying, wow, she don't seem too upset about this. She might not like it. Divorce is over. Dolores packs her clothes up on the third floor. All right. Put in a suitcase. I'm saying, wow, she don't seem too upset about this. What, she not like it? All right. Takes her suitcase, walks downstairs down to the second floor.

Goes in the bedroom. Mom packs. Puts her stuff in the drawers. I said, what are you doing? She goes, I said you could have the house. She didn't say, I'm not coming here. Right. So for 20 years, she's had her own bedroom there. Perfect.

That's why whoever she's dating, all right, came down. But I love it because we're all in the same place. And I love to spend time with our children together. Perfect. That's why whoever she's dating, all right, came down. But it's, I love it because we're all in the same place and I love to spend time with our children together. Yeah. Right? You know,

I don't see Pauly doing that this year. Although, let me tell you something, Pauly and I have come a long, long way. And if you see on social media now and we're busting each other's balls back and forth,

all right, obviously he calls me Mr. Potato Head, which, you know, I get a little bit of a similarity to, all right? It's not far off, yeah.

You know, you're going to have to chime in and say, yeah, all right, seriously. You're going to have to be so, calls me Mr. Potato Head, which I have a little bit of a similarity to. It's not far off. You're going to have to chime in and say yeah, alright, seriously. You're going to have to be so fresh. Well, what I was saying to Frank before we started is I thought it was so funny during the reunion when everyone was like Buzz Lightyear, Buzz Lightyear. I'm like, Frank actually looks like Buzz Lightyear more than anyone else. He's got bigger, whiter teeth.

It's projection. It's projection. He's got bigger, whiter teeth. And you'll see, Pauly on his own social media now puts He's got bigger, whiter teeth than me. It's projection. It's projection. Yeah, he's got bigger, whiter teeth than me, right? So he does. But, you know, you'll see. Pauly on his own social media now puts Buzz Lightyear on. All right? He's leaning in. Love that.

Is he going to film? Does he embrace the show? I think more than David. I think more than David. Great. Does that threaten your position or no? You're just in. I've got to be honest with you.

I thought it would definitely lessen my position. Right. But we're starting to film this year. And I'm getting the calls from production filming more and more and more than I ever have before. All right. When I thought this year was going to be a little bit of relaxation. Yeah. But no.

So far. You're integral to the dynamic. You really are. All right. So it's good. Listen, you got Joe Gorga, who's as little as he is. He's over here. He's just, you know. You gotga, who's as little as he is. He's over here. He's just, you know.

You got Bill, who's at this end, all right? And then you got the other guys all in between. Yeah. And I think I keep everybody in between because no matter, same, you saw with Bill. I tried to leave and try to bring Bill back, okay? I try to keep peace. It's a piss.

I try to keep peace. I try to keep peace. I really do. I just, I want everybody to get along. Yeah, I think you really have taken on a role as like someone who's sometimes, more often than not, like a voice of reason. Oh, I hear it all the time. Oh, yeah.

I hear it all the time. You know? It's nice to have that around. I hear it all the time. Yeah. And my kids bust my balls about it. You know my favorite part of the season? Yeah, I knew you were going to say that.

Yeah. Like, I had so much respect for you when Teresa was acting like an animal and flipped the table in Nashville. Yeah in Nashville and you know, Melissa followed her out and Jennifer followed her out. And then Dolores was like, I'm going to go with her too, which I was just like, Dolores,

this is your dinner. Teresa was the aggressor here. You're going to leave Jackie like with no one around when she, I mean not Jackie, Margaret, you're going to leave Margaret with only Jackie. It was like, it felt so fucked up that everyone was going with Teresa.

And you told Dolores no we're staying and I loved that we're the host you're the host it's not like Margaret was wrong there she got a whole fucking

table flipped on her and I had a lot of respect for that I really liked that thank you very much and if you notice Dolores didn't put up a fight whatsoever

she knew right away she knew right away and we do we really are close friends we really are and if one of us feels strongly about something normally the other one just gives in yeah and you respect each other's opinions which is very mature absolutely she's the mother of my children she's an incredible mother yeah so i would never do anything to disrespect her no and it's been really just so fun to watch and i feel like we're at this place in the show where

really i look forward to your guys's scenes just as much as the ladies. And I just, we wanted to invite you on our show to say thank you for your service. Oh, my God. Thank you. Yeah, to use our platform to meet our heroes. Literally. Oh, my God. Please.

Make me blush. All right? Oh, my God. I enjoy what we do. Yeah. I love doing what we do. I love filming. I have fun.

And as long as it continues to be fun, I'd love to continue to do it. Do you guys get paid to be on the show or just the women? No, the men do not get paid to be on the show. What we do, though, is we get a lot of perks. We get paid for a lot of other things that are ancillary to the show. Yeah, of course. That come with Bravo. So, listen, is it worth

the time that we put in? Probably not. But as long as it doesn't interfere with our day jobs, because things have been really, really busy for us lately and Dolores and I are going into an entirely different area now and we've gotten heavily into New Jersey now with the cannabis all right so and it's taken off and it's taken a lot of time but we're hoping to integrate it into the show yeah no it's all it's synergy. It all works. Exactly. We have a good time. Yeah.

As long as you're always having a good time. This year, it was rough. The women lost their minds. The reunion was wild. Yeah, and also because the men were more involved than they'd been in the past, so it couldn't be church and state like it usually is. And again, I see a lot of social media who love the men.

Overwhelming majority. But you also have the people on there, this is a housewife show. Why are they showing the househusband so much? It's such a bad take. The girls that get it, get it. The girls that don't, don't. Right? But I thought they were going to pull back on the guys a little bit this year.

But no, we started production. Oh, my God. So the guys are all definitely in it. We're very happy to hear that. And speaking of guy content, they teased on Watch What Happens Live that an Ultimate Girls Trip Husbands Edition might be in the works. Who would you want to be? If you were asked to go, who would you want to see there from other franchises?

I listen. Obviously, Mauricio. All right? Oh. All right? I get a lot of DMs for PK. All right? Oh, yeah.

He's great. I don't know if PK's going to fit with us, though. All right?MS for PK all right I don't know if he gains gonna fit with us now all right yeah he throws down yeah you gotta have thick skin with us yeah you have to have thick skin with us you know me too you know Juan Dixon all right that's interesting the guys love him they do all right I got a and we did a couple things together I think was me and Joe Gorgon him and uh we mesh pretty. We mesh pretty well so I think we would have a good time it would be it would be a rough. It would be interesting. Oh my god it would be a rough show. I would totally watch it. I don't know whether I'd watch it. I'd be embarrassed.

Well I can't wait to see that I can't wait to see more of you all over Jersey. Thank you. Thank you so much, seriously, for being here. Everyone follow, where do people follow you on Instagram? Frank underscore Catania underscore senior, S-R. All right. And if they're looking, if some of our younger viewers are looking for Frankie, where would they find him?

It's just Frank underscore Catania. Okay, good. Don't get it twisted. I was going to say, try not to, all right? Way too many explanations, you know? Well, thank you so much for being here. Thank you guys for watching. Have an amazing day, and we'll see you tomorrow.

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